h1.firstHeading { display: none; } [22:06:23] <robchurch> where <title> is the title with spaces => underscores [22:06:37] <robchurch> e.g. body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none; } [22:06:55] <robchurch> You can add these to, e.g. MediaWiki:Common.css [22:07:00] <robchurch> (page on your wiki) [22:08:05] <esben> ahh nice i thought i perhaps could do it directly in the content area - put anything goes [22:08:09] <c1|freaky> robchurch: thx [22:08:11] <esben> *but [22:08:27] <robchurch> In theory, you could write an extension which adds a __HIDETITLE__ magic word. [22:08:40] <robchurch> In practice, it's not really a common enough operation that you'd want to. [22:08:57] <esben> yeah, but thats diffently out of my skills [22:09:07] <c1|freaky> i got another question: after installation the installer script stsarts the wiki's name with a capital letter - where can i change that to be lowercase? [22:10:08] <esben> but thank you a bunch robchurch [22:10:29] <CIA-15> 03david * r25214 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtModel.php): fixed history wrong-object-highlighted bug -- with ludicrously bad hack [22:10:33] <Dr_DBW> esben: that isan't actually that difficult to implement. [22:10:42] <Dr_DBW> esben: just some simple text file editing. [22:11:07] <robchurch> Well, it is if you're unfamiliar with the extension framework and/or interacting with parser output objects in an extension. [22:11:37] <esben> well i've have no PHP skills at all.. and im allways lost in localsettings :-[ [22:11:59] <Dr_DBW> Rob, was referring more to editing the CSS [22:12:06] <esben> oh [22:12:30] <robchurch> Like I said, in practice, it's not something you'd want to make particularly easy, given that users should generally be able to see the page heading. [22:12:33] <Jazzle> can't get to the databse log (managed server) but I should mention that this wiki had been moved from another server. I moved the files, imported the database and changed the localsettings.php to match the new database names and user [22:12:42] <robchurch> Well, you were replying to the wrong thing then. [22:13:09] <Dr_DBW> Rob, yeah, I was reacting too slow. [22:13:24] <robchurch> Jazzle: A completely blank page indicates some sort of PHP error, so check your error logging is actually set to log errors. [22:13:40] <robchurch> Though error_reporting = E_NONE and log_errors = on would be an odd combination. [22:14:56] <Jazzle> Found the problem, I moved from a PHP5 to a PHP4 server, damn those incompatibility's... I've now chnaged the server to PHP5 and it works :) [22:20:00] <CIA-15> 03mark * r25215 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-lvs-realserver/sysctl.conf: [22:20:01] <CIA-15> Revert Tim's sysctl.conf changes, as those keys do not generally exist [22:20:01] <CIA-15> on all servers and will throw errors if sysctl is not run with -e [22:20:01] <CIA-15> Instead we will change apache-sanity-check to trust the 'all' interfaces [22:20:01] <CIA-15> key. [22:20:44] <Gambit> O_O [22:25:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Ability to preview summary in "Upload file" page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2537 +comment (10jidanni) [22:27:12] <robchurch> I wish Dan Jacobson would drop his "none of you care about web standards or blind people" attitude. [22:28:08] <robchurch> It paints a very misleading picture for anyone coming along. We do, in fact, try to ensure that, for instance, every Ajax feature has an acceptable fallback - we almost never write Ajax features which don't already exist in some form. [22:29:02] <robchurch> There are some preferences, etc. which rely upon the availability of CSS or JavaScript, but these are usually clearly marked. [22:31:41] <robchurch> Now he appears to be proactively patrolling feature requests, "forbidding" us from using "anything fancy" when implementing them. [22:32:55] <esben> robchurch i just stumple over this extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoTitle I couldnt get the css snippet you sent me to work [22:33:36] <TimLaqua> Someone should consolidate a bunch of the simpler extensions [22:33:45] <TimLaqua> or *could* at least... [22:33:55] <robchurch> They could, but what's the point? [22:34:00] <TimLaqua> ease of use? [22:34:03] <TimLaqua> usability? [22:34:07] <TimLaqua> convienence? [22:34:16] <robchurch> Then you have code duplication and the possibility that someone might double-up on extensions. [22:34:39] <TimLaqua> you mean if they installed the consolidated one as well as the original fragments? [22:34:59] <robchurch> Yes. [22:35:12] <TimLaqua> You could make the consolidated one clever and only define functions that haven't been defined already [22:35:27] <TimLaqua> which would just require that it's loaded after all the other extensions [22:35:40] <robchurch> ...and how would you guarantee that? [22:35:54] <TimLaqua> dunno... [22:35:58] <TimLaqua> maybe make a really early hook [22:36:07] <TimLaqua> that fires right after the ExtensionFunctions fires. [22:36:16] <TimLaqua> and load on that [22:39:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Indicate that the page being viewed is protected - subtitle message? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10347 (10danny_b) [22:42:18] <VoiceOfAll> robchurch: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload [22:42:25] <VoiceOfAll> hehe [22:42:34] <TimLaqua> rob wandered off [22:43:16] <VoiceOfAll> bah, fucking conference mode [22:43:32] <TimLaqua> how's FlaggedRevs going? [22:43:32] *VoiceOfAll kicks ChatZilla [22:43:57] <VoiceOfAll> I'm just testing, finding bugs, finding ways to make stuff faster [22:44:06] <VoiceOfAll> And following WP:FLR [22:44:48] <TimLaqua> wp:flr? [22:46:49] <CIA-15> 03tstarling * r25216 10/trunk/debs/update.sh: Simple repo update script [22:49:10] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Image truncated comment chopped UTF-8 character - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11087 trivial; lowest; MediaWiki: Uploading; (jidanni) [22:49:14] <Gambit> O_O [22:50:47] <VoiceOfAll> http://www.lardydar.com/search/wiki/index.php?title=wikipedia:About [22:50:57] <VoiceOfAll> wtf? they must be using db dumps [22:51:19] <VoiceOfAll> or some regexp :D [23:12:32] <CIA-15> 03tstarling * r25217 10/trunk/debs/update.sh: Don't overwrite old packages [23:17:04] <CIA-15> 03aaron * r25218 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: *err...make this consistent with rc_deleted patch file [23:20:02] <Sundance_Raphael> cu [23:21:13] <kunsole> How can I check If my robots.txt is working as it should? [23:22:34] <ST47> Make a robot [23:44:45] <CIA-15> 03greg * r25219 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Downgrade from semicolon to comma [23:48:55] <pstbot> Someone pasted "HOW DO THOSE PENNIES SMELL, KIKES" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/55 [23:49:29] <Gambit> /ban him Pliz :) [23:49:51] <Gambit> silence that is ;) [23:50:39] <Gambit> zomg :( [23:52:47] <VoiceOfAll> G_SabinoMullane: hehe.... yeah ;) [23:53:53] <pstbot> "Jimbo Wales" pasted "I EAT CHRISTIAN BABIES" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/97 [23:53:55] <pstbot> "Jimbo Wales" pasted "I EAT CHRISTIAN BABIES" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/98 [23:53:57] <pstbot> "Jimbo Wales" pasted "I EAT CHRISTIAN BABIES" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/99 [23:54:07] <pstbot> "Jimbo Wales" pasted "I EAT CHRISTIAN BABIES" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/100 [23:54:12] <Gambit> brion PPliz !! [23:54:21] <pstbot> Someone pasted "NIGGERS, JEWS: BAD NEWS" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/101 [23:54:21] *ST47 pets gmaxwell [23:54:24] <Gambit> Ban the Bot..ITS Being Abused !! [23:54:30] *brion rolls eyes [23:54:32] <pstbot> Someone pasted "NIGGERS, JEWS: BAD NEWS" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/102 [23:54:34] <pstbot> Someone pasted "NIGGERS, JEWS: BAD NEWS" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/103 [23:54:34] <Gambit> nope Brion is auth here ;) [23:54:36] <pstbot> Someone pasted "NIGGERS, JEWS: BAD NEWS" (1 line) at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~swhitton/pastebin/104 [23:54:42] <gmaxwell> feh, I'm not on the access list in here. Alas. [23:54:45] <ST47> :) [23:54:45] <Gambit> Gracias :) [23:54:53] *ST47 gets brion and gmaxwell cookies [23:55:04] <gmaxwell> The bot sounds like "pestbot" fitting. ;) [23:55:06] *brion gets fatter [23:55:07] <brion> mmmmm [23:55:11] <ST47> :) [23:57:06] <gmaxwell> Encyclopedia dramatic... At least the name of our trolls is sounding more respectible these days (vs GNAA) [23:58:19] <VoiceOfAll> brion: don't say you are fat [23:58:26] <VoiceOfAll> it's like bleeding in a pool of sharks [23:58:43] *VoiceOfAll licks his lips in hungar [23:58:55] <gmaxwell> VoiceOfAll, do not eat the developer! [23:59:00] <gmaxwell> bad VoiceOfAll ! [23:59:05] *brion !

[08:15:54] yes [08:15:56] using css [08:16:18] Would you mind being a bit more specific on how I can actually change it? [08:16:52] one moment [08:17:00] Traveler7: Edit MediaWiki:Common.css [08:17:14] oh noes I took my website down [08:17:48] Traveler7: add .new { background: yourcolor }; [08:19:17] Sorry about that: I would have replied but I realised I just took my entire website down. [08:22:46] I'm confused. I do what? I'm sorry I'm slow :) [08:23:28] type 'MediaWiki:Common.css' in the search box in your wiki [08:23:31] click the edit tab [08:23:39] then you can edit it, just like a normal page [08:23:48] Traveler7: On your wiki, go to MediaWiki:Common.css. Edit it, and add the line ".new { color: pink; }" to change their color to pink [08:23:58] (sorry, the css I gave above was wrong ... it's quite late here :D) [08:24:12] *chat-de-plafond slaps amidaniel [08:24:19] go to sleep, silly boy [08:24:44] Yeah, I've got class in a few hours too :) [08:25:00] *chat-de-plafond wonders why amidaniel is bragging about poor sleeping habits. [08:25:09] *amidaniel is not bragging [08:25:28] I would have gone to bed hours ago, but was kept awake as a result of what turned out to be a practical joke >:() [08:25:42] lol [08:26:55] And now have the whole Obudsman committee, and godwin alarmed that the wiki is 'sploding [08:27:45] obudsman? [08:27:45] ombudsman [08:27:45] Whatever [08:27:50] Lol I feel like such an idiot, but I cannot figure it out. [08:28:06] These folks: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman [08:29:26] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman [08:29:28] sorry [08:29:33] darn putty [08:30:04] O.o putty? [08:30:29] Putty -> SSH -> Server -> irssi -> freenode -> #mediawiki [08:31:14] So what text do I add exactly if I want the redlinks to be green? [08:31:29] ".new { color: green );" [08:31:38] ".new { color: green; )" [08:32:08] .new { color: green; } [08:32:26] *amidaniel may be tired but has been trained like a dog to spot unmatching braces :) [08:32:33] aww [08:32:52] This is your fault, I used ) but you used { [08:33:01] Does it matter what version I'm running, because it doesn't change anything. [08:33:02] so it all got mucked up [08:33:07] Traveler7: link? [08:33:16] Traveler7: Do a CTRL+F5 to bypass your browser cache [08:34:06] By the way, I don't know how to respond to the red messages. Just another internet thing I dont understand. And I tried the cache, but it didn't change [08:34:47] Well are you using a significantly older version? For 1.6-1.7 you probably need MediaWiki:Monobook.css [08:38:04] See, even though I just downloaded it tonight, I'm on version 1.5.8, according to my special:version. And even on MediaWiki:Monobook.css it didnt change [08:38:44] Oh, gawd, if you're on 1.5.8 you *definitely* should get a more recent verions [08:38:47] version* [08:39:34] I figured. I don't know how, since I did it tonight but am on 1.5.8 [08:43:11] *amidaniel is off to bed [08:43:16] But its late here in Albuquerque, so I'll deal with it tomroow [08:43:40] You're in ABQ? [08:43:45] Yep. [08:43:50] Holy fuck .. me too :) [08:43:58] Lol ironic. [08:44:53] Alright, well, I really am off to bed though .. catch you around some time [08:45:03] Goodnight [08:52:39] 03(mod) disallowing robots on talk pages and deletion and "meta" talk pages pages in de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937 +shell; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:56:02] 03raymond * r25186 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [08:56:02] * Introduce new messages 'group-autoconfirmed-member' and 'grouppage-autoconfirmed' for the long time existing group 'autoconfirmed'. [08:56:02] * Updates German [08:56:23] <_wooz> lo [09:32:23] 03raymond * r25187 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [09:32:23] * Three long time unused messages removed [09:32:23] * One message to a more generic section moved [09:47:39] 03(NEW) New messages translated in French language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11081 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin) [10:26:58] <[Jessy]> Hi! A question: How can i make collapsible tables or layers in mediawiki? [10:27:13] there we go :) [10:28:58] hullo, having a small difficulty ;-) [10:29:20] I was just wondering if there is any way of preventing mediawiki from parsering urls in the text to links? [10:29:32] if so, could you point me to the correct help page? [10:29:57] SYN Nikerabbit [10:30:26] Myrtti: link [10:30:34] d'oh. [10:31:05] well, I haven't used it a single time during my wikipedianship... [10:31:17] -____- thank you mark. [10:34:16] time to set up my third wiki [10:34:18] yay :D [10:39:26] <[Jessy]> can someone help me :( [10:42:13] with? [10:43:16] <[Jessy]> how can i make collapsible tables? [10:43:51] <[Jessy]> like show/hide in wikipedia? [10:46:02] there's some javascript magic you use for that. [10:46:22] <[Jessy]> where can i find it or the extension for that? [10:46:36] it's not an extension... hold on. [10:47:05] <[Jessy]> do search for me? [10:47:17] I'm looking. [10:47:39] <[Jessy]> thanks! [10:48:30] [Jessy]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [10:48:39] browse down to Collapsible tables [10:49:17] <[Jessy]> ok [10:51:51] VoiceOfAll: what do you think of putting collapsible tables in trunk? [10:52:13] not much point sticking it in Common.js when we can stick it in wikibits.js, n'est-ce pas? [10:52:52] <[Jessy]> hm how can i use it? [10:54:47] hmm, sounds ok [10:55:15] does it work in all skins and is non-hacky? [11:04:45] <[Jessy]> [chat-de-plafond] my Common.js is nowhere included in mywiki [11:05:00] <[Jessy]> so the hide/close doesn't work [11:25:11] 03raymond * r25188 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: [11:25:11] Fix a regression from r24808 for some image options. [11:25:11] Thanks for hints from VP in de.wp. [11:30:02] w 5 [11:30:05] ARGH [11:35:15] Good morning... I'm wondering what's the name of the extensions that makes external links work like in Wikipedia [11:36:39] Do anybody ever had this problem? External links are shown as 'Predefinition:Link' [11:37:17] Marburg: You want to have a link behind a text? [11:41:45] PunkRock: Yes. I'm trying to create an external link with that nice symbol [11:42:30] Probably is missing some extensions that I couldn't find the name [11:43:10] VoiceOfAll: I dunno.. has been used on enwp for a while [11:43:28] *chat-de-plafond skims [11:44:02] VoiceOfAll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [11:44:04] read over [11:44:11] it looks skin-agnostic to me [11:46:42] Marburg: You want every link to show up with this symbol for wiki internal link? i think you have to hack the wiki skin for that. but i would say this is a little bit pointless. [11:47:17] 03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 (10danny_b) [11:47:20] *chat-de-plafond hacks PunkRock [11:47:29] No. I'm trying to make external links to look like that [11:48:13] In the same way that it works under Wikipedia [11:48:31] chat-de-plafond: Wanna have the number of my network device? It's 172.0.0.1! [11:48:33] Internal links appear without the symbol, but links to external world do [11:48:38] PunkRock: ty [11:48:43] *PunkRock hacked 172.0.0.1 [11:48:47] PunkRock: OMG UR PASSWORD IS TEH SAME AS MINE [11:48:47] ^^ [11:48:55] I HAXXORED YOUR BOX [11:49:02] chat-de-plafond: NOOO! [11:49:05] rm -rf / [11:49:06] oh crap [11:49:10] chat-de-plafond: damn! [11:49:41] phew [11:49:46] fixed it. [11:49:58] some asshole was hacking me [11:50:19] i was hiding beneath a wand of reflection [11:50:43] PunkRock: No. I'm trying to make external links to look like that [11:51:25] PunkRock: It seems that I don't have the "External Links" predefinition made up [11:57:16] PunkRock: Worked! Some how I was trying to use the old {{link}} predefinition :S [11:57:16] Marburg: you want this icon : http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/external.png a teh right of the link or it's something else [11:57:36] -teh +the [11:57:41] Yeah [11:58:07] wich version of mediawiki ? [11:59:13] 1.7.?? [11:59:30] is it public ? [11:59:41] not yet [12:01:35] the code should be in the wiki [12:02:18] It is. I was trying to use the old predefinitions {{link}} instead of [http://...] [12:02:41] oh [12:04:59] Thanks for your time and PunkRock :D [12:05:04] See ya [12:13:16] Hello , i got an error when i try to install mediawiki [12:13:49] the config directory has been set to chmod 777 , and the webbrowser don't see the file [12:14:23] "The document name you requested (/config/index.php) could not be found on this server" [12:14:57] anyone can help ? [12:19:31] Using which web browser [12:19:51] Also, you need to config the file to 0777 [12:23:26] Thanks Halca for the reply, i chmod 0777 the config directory , and i use firefox / safari [12:23:37] the problem is the same [12:34:48] What FTP client, out of curiosity? [12:37:20] its ok i see where is the problem, in fact the issue was my host [12:38:00] there is some issue when you try to install mediawiki on 1&1 host [12:39:12] hi. is there a plugin or something that allows users to save changes but keep on editing a page? [12:40:38] My users tend to write a lot (as in long entries) and feel uneasy if they cannot save while writing [12:42:30] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 (10alefzet) [12:42:55] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 (10alefzet) [12:58:39] oatmeal and rasin sure does the trick [12:59:09] went from constipation to five in a row [13:03:53] too much information [13:08:01] 03tlaqua * r25189 10/trunk/extensions/ContributorsAddon/ContributorsAddon.php: Updated URL argument. [13:12:05] 03kim * r25190 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/small/apiview.pl: hopefully lets us track wikidataapi [13:42:12] Hi, if I want to paste a codeblock with a URL between [ ] brackets to Mediawiki (e.g. [http://my-url]), how do I prevent the url to be formatted as [1] ? [13:43:50] give it a title - like [http://google.com Google] [13:44:45] okay.. so if I want the URL itself to appear there, I just have to put the url in twice? - like [http://my-url http://my-url] ? [13:45:47] hmm.. no, that's not what I really wanted actually, because that makes the [ ] brackets disapear [13:45:57] [http://url.com Some text here] [13:47:50] No, that's not what I want.. I want the text to be formatted as [http://url.com] *with* the brackets [13:48:07] hi, how do i list users [13:48:15] Special:Listusers [13:48:17] do you want the URL to be a link? [13:48:21] 'k [13:48:23] rotman [http://url.com] [13:48:30] Jack_Phoenix: you are too fast :p [13:48:31] 03(mod) Disable CAPTCHA for bot flagged accounts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 high->normal (10robchur) [13:48:37] rawr [13:49:03] a little ackward finding that page, heh [13:49:25] Platonides: thanks! [13:53:03] 03robchurch * r25191 10/trunk/phase3/includes/FileDeleteForm.php: (bug 11079) Use 'wpReason' as the comment field name and pre-fill the comment field from the request when building the form [13:54:04] 03(FIXED) Make &wpReason=*** url parameter work for image deletion pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11079 +comment (10robchur) [13:59:53] 03robchurch * r25192 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: [13:59:53] * Drop useless `image` parameter from deletion links in file histories [13:59:53] * Drop useless `wpEditToken` parameter from same [14:02:29] 03(mod) Loading page causes Firefox to crash - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11077 (10robchur) [14:02:30] how do i add TEX to my wiki, like wikipedia has ? [14:02:45] math expression image rendering stuff* [14:03:25] i cant find a extension to do that [14:04:06] Hekos: it's in math directory, you have to compile it [14:04:20] Hekos: it's not an extension, it comes with the defaul install. but it needs to be comiled & set up [14:04:24] hum, didnt see that ither [14:04:34] look again, then. [14:04:39] it has a README [14:04:46] im sure its there ;) [14:04:52] ok ty [14:05:20] *Duesentrieb thinks that requireing people to install ocaml to use this really sucks. [14:06:43] you don't need to install ocaml [14:06:48] ocaml is just a compiler [14:06:53] you can get a compiled binary ;-D [14:07:00] where =D [14:07:21] er [14:07:37] il just compile i have it heh [14:13:12] hi. is there a plugin or something that allows users to save changes but keep on editing a page? [14:13:30] My users tend to write a lot (as in long entries) and feel uneasy if they cannot save while writing [14:13:36] domas: that was my point: provide comiled binaries. Or port this to something more widely available (why not PHP? or at least Python or Perl) [14:13:42] hi alphascorpii :) [14:13:48] hi Duesentrieb [14:14:15] alphascorpii: i'm afraid that's not possible. I couldn't think of how to do it without cluttering the page history [14:14:27] Duesentrieb: to port one has to know what is inside [14:14:31] Duesentrieb: yea, that's what I told them too [14:14:34] Duesentrieb: did you see the source? :) [14:14:42] domas: nope :) [14:15:03] domas: one more reason to port it... [14:15:50] do it [14:16:19] alphascorpii: generally, people are scolded for saving unfinished edits :) If you don't mind that, I guess it would be possible to have a special save button that simply redirects back to the edit page after saving, instead of to the article page. However, I'm not sure if the currently available hook points are sufficient to get that effect. [14:16:42] i messed with the post-edit-redirects a bit for my TalkHere extension, and it's... a but tricky. I had to resort to evil hacks. [14:17:15] domas: i'll put it on my TODO list, position 23763 :P [14:17:33] domas: anyway... are there official binaries? and how portable would they be? [14:17:43] i mean, how many linux binaries would be needed? just one? [14:18:38] we used to have linux binary [14:18:47] yes, one is enough [14:21:59] good to know [14:22:02] Duesentrieb: guess they'll just have to get used to it [14:22:02] 03robchurch * r25193 10/branches/robchurch/logs/: Obsolete [14:22:18] 03robchurch * r25194 10/branches/robchurch/outputhandler/: Obsoleted in favour of "head items" et al. [14:22:25] alphascorpii: i think there are "save textarea to file" extension for firefox etc. perhaps look into that [14:22:32] 03robchurch * r25195 10/branches/robchurch/drafts/: Obsolete; implementing this as an extension [14:23:05] oh, thats a cool idea [14:24:29] alphascorpii: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/1046 [14:24:52] even got an autosave function. [14:24:53] nice [14:25:45] 03raymond * r25196 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_cn.php MessagesKk_kz.php MessagesKk_tr.php): [14:25:45] * (bug 10367) Update Kazakh translations [14:25:45] Patch by AlefZet [14:26:39] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:29:48] 03(mod) New messages translated in French language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11081 (10raimond.spekking) [14:32:40] I feel like a fool making something I am going to have to completely decimate in a few weeks. [14:34:19] I think I am going to Google 'idiots gude to making a parser'. [14:40:04] I am now faced with the daunting task of writing a parser from scratch. [14:40:30] *MartinCleaver reads the FAQ [14:40:36] TBH I don't know where to start. [14:41:22] *MartinCleaver reads http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_FAQ&oldid=367091 [14:42:25] I need a break from this crap. [14:42:30] Laterz all, [14:45:02] ok, the standard skin is showing rather than a custom one that I use on other sites. How can I diagnose? [14:52:53] Is there published JS to move the Search box above the navigation? [14:54:20] TimLaqua: it is not very difficult i think [14:54:36] to write it [14:54:40] it's not, I just wrote one - Figured I'd put it up somewhere if it wasn't published [14:59:35] it's so pretty - http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72804 [15:11:03] hey folks - I am trying to update my LocalSettings.php file, and I have ended up messing up and am getting this error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_IF in /var/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 14 [15:11:10] can anyone help? [15:11:13] 03raymond * r25197 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: [15:11:13] Add a version number to proofread.js [15:11:13] Bump it every time you change the js. [15:11:35] what is the line 14 on your localsettings.php? [15:11:48] to me, it seems like that you're missing ; or some other character from there... [15:12:22] hi - I think it is the 1st uncommented line if( defined( 'MW_INSTALL_PATH' ) ) { [15:14:05] the file should start with right? [15:14:48] Dunno why I have made such a dogs dinner of this :-( [15:15:01] I was just editing a couple of the prefs [15:15:46] I edit it locally in notepad, then just wipe everything out in nano and paste in the edied version [15:16:30] ow [15:16:35] don't use notepad [15:16:53] use notepad++ (a free open-source notepad) or WordPad or anything else...not Notepad please... [15:16:59] I <3 notepad [15:17:35] ok, does notepad mess up the line breaks or some such? [15:17:56] Notepad may add a byte order mark to the file, and thus corrupt things [15:18:17] hmmm [15:18:28] ok I am on wordpad now [15:18:42] I just copy / paste from notepad to nano [15:18:50] now using wordpad [15:19:31] is there somewhere I can find the default localsettings.php, and I'll just try rediting and uploading [15:19:39] "Do not use Windows Notepad, which may add a "Byte Order Mark" (BOM) and muck up the file. Typical symptoms of BOMs include white pages and errors about headers already being sent. To remove a BOM, you'll have to edit the file in a hex editor. Windows WordPad seems to work fine." -http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [15:20:08] thanks Jack [15:20:23] np [15:22:03] hmm still no luck [15:24:52] is there somewhere I can find the default localsettings.php? I'll just try rediting and uploading [15:25:15] <^demon> electronik: There isn't really a *default*, except for what is generated by the installer. [15:25:41] can I get it to regenerate the localsettings then? [15:26:06] <^demon> Out of curiosity, what's the supposed benefit of the new image deletion page? [15:33:51] hmm i am still getting nowhere, I don't understand what I have done wrong with my Localsettings.php :-( [15:36:23] ^demon: Confirmation for deletion of old images, and providing a reason for doing so. [15:36:55] <^demon> robchurch: So the new interface catches old images too? What revision was that done in? [15:37:22] When MW1.11 will be released? [15:37:27] r24884 [15:37:33] VasilVV: When it's been tested enough. [15:37:34] in case there's not enough whining: the new image history table is annoying [15:37:37] 03(mod) Install hangs after Creating tables... in database - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10862 +comment (10jimhu) [15:37:42] timichal: How so? [15:38:09] <^demon> robchurch: I'm going to have to agree, and the new interface for image deletions leaves something to be desired as well. [15:38:24] Is that so? [15:38:32] *MinuteElectron goes an looks. [15:38:40] it's ugly and kinda difficult to use [15:38:44] Well perhaps you can provide some positive feedback? [15:39:18] <^demon> robchurch: I understand the need for the functionality of being able to confirm deletion of old images. Why not with the normal deletion interface? [15:39:21] For instance, I don't see how the "new interface" is particularly different from the old one. [15:39:32] were there complaints about the old, non-table version? [15:39:49] timichal: The information being presented suits table presentation better. [15:41:03] There is no "normal deletion interface". [15:41:04] <^demon> robchurch: And the reason for the new deletion interface? [15:41:22] <^demon> The page we've always used for image and page deletions is what I'd consider the *normal* [15:41:47] What's the *problem*? [15:42:11] <^demon> A) Many many user scripts broke with the restructure. [15:42:27] a. Fix them [15:42:31] <^demon> B) I don't see the deletion log under the wpReason and the box. [15:42:39] b. Fixable [15:43:32] robchurch: indeed, but the table is hard to work with even at 1440x900, see http://timichal.homelinux.org/imghist.png [15:43:36] Wow, the new file history display looks nice. [15:44:16] But the image deletion page is not so good, it doesn't have the flexibility to delete single revisions of an image. [15:44:32] It would be nice to have that ability integrated or as another special page. [15:44:37] Er, yes it does. [15:44:50] Hmm, [15:44:51] You click "delete this" next to the image in the history, and you get to delete that revision. [15:45:04] Oh, I see. [15:45:06] In fact, you now get to provide a reason for doing so, and you get confirmation, unlike the previous behaviour. [15:45:09] Neat, that makes more sense. [15:45:21] Is there a way to batch delete old image revisions? [15:45:30] In the backend, yes. [15:45:44] That would also be nice, but the new arrangements are an improvement. [15:45:47] We could probably expose this in some fancy way. [15:45:56] 03yurik * r25198 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Added missing API features added in this release. [15:46:23] ^demon: What you don't seem to realise is that there was no unified deletion interface; Articles and ImagePages both overrode this and implemented their own. [15:46:44] The ImagePage one needed to be more complex, to handle deleting old revisions vs. the current revision + old, so I moved it out to a cleaner interfac. [15:47:02] The result is improved code readability and ease of implementing new features in the future. [15:47:28] I don't quite understand why, if you didn't like it, you haven't filed bugs requesting specific pieces of functionality. [15:47:33] what if the date-time table thingy was set to always appear on one line? no added functionality, just looks nice :) [15:47:46] good point [15:47:48] Frankly, if all you're doing is whining at me for the sake of it, then you know where to go and how to get off. [15:47:54] hey folks, sorry to rattle on about this, can anyone help? Why have I broken my functioning localsettings.php? I am getting a "Parse error:" [15:48:02] electronik: On what line? [15:48:13] timichal: The visual appearance of that table has been in dispute since it was introduced. [15:48:22] <^demon> robchurch: I just noticed it this morning, so I haven't figured out all of that yet. I mean, I'm with you on the added functionality and the other benefits, it's just *new* to me is all...I suppose. [15:48:25] ah [15:48:29] Everyone agrees it's the "Right Thing" but we also agree it looks a bit sucky. :D [15:48:42] line 30 now [15:48:49] I am trying different things [15:48:56] but always an error :-( [15:48:56] what is on that line [15:49:03] electronik: Can you copy-and-paste that line, and the line before and after it, to http://mediawiki.pastey.net? [15:49:06] and if it is not a password can you paste it [15:49:13] to the pastey that rob said [15:49:15] not here [15:49:49] I have an account that a whole community is going to be using. I do not wan to allow anyone to change the password to the account. How do I disable the changing of the password in the preferences? [15:49:56] robchurch: so I guess it'll eventually look nicer, good :) [15:50:58] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72808 [15:51:22] it's a commented line [15:51:33] dunno what the heck is going on :-( [15:51:41] weird [15:51:59] juggler885: Why don't you make each user an account? [15:52:24] MinuteElectron: that is the plan eventually, but there are over 300 users and we will eventually connect to an ldap server [15:52:25] electronik: The problem is on the line immediately above it, that is, the line above it that's not commented out. [15:52:37] MinuteElectron: this is a temporary solution until ldap is working [15:52:40] ok [15:52:44] hi. got a problem with 1.10.1. All Project:-namespace articles disappear when I move the db to another server with mysqldump and mysql. any help would be appreciated [15:55:15] 03robchurch * r25199 10/trunk/phase3/includes/FileDeleteForm.php: Show relevant deletion log lines [15:56:18] Thanks robchurch - I am just trying different things... I get an error at line 14 with my saved localsettings.php [15:56:30] that is the 1st line of code [15:56:41] after the is there a basic localsettings.php I can try? [15:57:28] I don't understand the problem [15:57:38] I only edited localsettings.php [15:57:53] electronik: Copy and paste the whole file to pastey, masking out the passwords. [15:59:55] <^demon> robchurch: Any clue when 25191 (the changing of the comment box on image deletions back to wpReason) will go live? I'm updating my user script and I want to know when I'll be needing to change it back. [16:00:10] Don't know, not my department, whine at somebody else. [16:01:12] <^demon> robchurch: Thanks anyway [16:01:24] 03raymond * r25200 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [16:01:24] Remove 'blockedtext-concise'/'autoblockedtext-concise' messages, they are redundant to 'blockedtext/'autoblockedtext' [16:01:24] I do not see a reason why to maintain four very very similar messages instead of two messages. [16:01:24] Add $blockTimestamp as $8. It's used in OutputPage.php for these messages too. [16:02:46] doesn't $wgSitename set the name of the project-namespace? [16:03:14] kunsole: yes [16:04:03] ialexandre: so as I have multiple servers and now need to move some og my wikis to a new host and all pages in Project: dissappear when I move the sql dump to another host [16:04:30] s/og/of [16:04:45] kunsole: did you renamed the project ? [16:04:52] ialexandre: no [16:05:14] kunsole: is the wiki public or not ? [16:05:25] ialexandre: public I suppose [16:05:29] - $form .= ''; <-- o_O [16:05:44] Simetrical: outch [16:05:59] At least it was - and not +. :) [16:06:07] heh [16:06:10] kunsole: accessible via internet ? [16:06:24] ialexandre: http://en.consumeria.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [16:07:26] ialexandre: Special:Allpages shows everything there is in the Consumeria: -namespace but then click and the article is empty [16:07:59] kunsole: and nothing in recentchanges [16:08:29] everything shows ok in RC [16:09:07] kunsole: threre is any changes for Consumeria: namespace [16:09:38] pasety not accepting URLS [16:09:46] having to edit them all out :-/ [16:09:57] ialexandre: er. in RC, yes [16:10:23] electronik, search for another pastebin we can put in the URL instead, if pastey.net has become sucky. [16:10:31] Or just edit out the URLs. [16:10:33] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72809 [16:10:38] thanks done now [16:10:43] http://en.consumeria.info/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=Cons&namespace=0 [16:10:44] Is there anyway to disable the preferences page for a specific user? [16:10:50] they exists [16:10:51] man have I got myself into a mess :-( [16:11:04] run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php [16:11:15] no [16:11:57] ialexandre: 'k will do [16:12:18] kunsole: from the command line [16:13:49] ialexandre: Checking namespace 4: "Consumeria" [16:13:49] ... 10 conflicts detected: [16:14:00] NO [16:14:10] don't paste the text [16:14:19] ialexandre: sorry [16:14:31] it says it moved 10 articles from NS0 to NS4 [16:15:15] but the article texts still don't show up :( [16:15:44] kunsole: if you paste the texte you'll be kicked [16:16:04] Don't be so aggressive. [16:16:36] ialexandre: does maintenance/namespaceDupes.php have access to LocalSettings.php [16:16:50] kunsole: i think [16:16:54] cause it didn't actually say it moved them it just notifed of conflicts [16:17:13] ialexandre: I run it again and it compalained the same [16:17:28] so it didn't actually touch the SQL I THINKS [16:19:48] ialexandre: thank you [16:19:52] php namespaceDupes.php --fix [16:19:59] now it works. tnx once again [16:20:24] Hey folks - I think I have forund the issue - I think suckpad, I mean notepad, has added returns on some of the commented lines, thereby breaking the file [16:20:33] just editing now [16:20:41] wish me well! [16:20:44] suckpad is the correct term indeed :-P [16:20:49] kunsole: i was searching if you had to pass an option, i think the answer is yes [16:21:30] ialexandre: now it's even weirder. MW still thinks there is no content in Consumeria:-links are red but there is content :p [16:21:57] kunsole: purge the cache with action=purge [16:22:20] 03rotem * r25201 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [16:22:54] kunsole: i think it's ok [16:22:57] ialexandre: YES! no fail this time. wiki online. kunsole smile [16:25:04] ialexandre: big thanks for help. [16:25:20]