[00:07:10] <CIA-15>	03simetrical * r25260 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Parser.php): (bug 8393) <sup> and <sub> need to be preserved (without attributes) for entries in the table of contents.
[00:08:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Allow some HTML tags through to table of contents - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8393  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[00:10:48] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: thanks for fixing page titles for whantlinkshere and recentchangeslinked
[00:16:38] <CIA-15>	03tstarling * r25261 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/ (changelog conffiles postrm preinst rules): 
[00:16:38] <CIA-15>	* No, really, mode 400 for sudoers.
[00:16:38] <CIA-15>	* Diversion for sudoers
[00:27:49] <cloakable>	I'm looking to get short urls to work on my wiki. The wiki is the only thing that's going to be running on my website, so I've put it in the root of the website. can anyone help?
[00:28:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103  +comment (10rainman)
[00:29:06] <Worby>	cloakable: have you read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL ?
[00:29:20] <_Danny_B_>	!simpleurl | cloakable 
[00:29:20] <mwbot>	cloakable : To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups.
[00:29:23] <cloakable>	Worby: O have indeed.
[00:29:46] <Worby>	!help
[00:29:46] <mwbot>	Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. There's not much documentation on me, but you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn
[00:30:07] <cloakable>	_Danny_B_: Is says nothing about having the wiki in DocumentRoot, only about having it at /w
[00:30:22] <Worby>	cloakable: try and change the /wiki/$1 to /$1 no?
[00:30:30] <Worby>	oh
[00:30:39] <cloakable>	Yeah
[00:30:49] <Worby>	don't you just want "ArticlePath" adjusted?
[00:31:28] <cloakable>	At the moment it's using www.url.url/index.php/Main_Page
[00:31:40] <cloakable>	I want to get rid of the index.php
[00:31:51] <_Danny_B_>	cloakable: got robots.txt on your site?
[00:32:05] <cloakable>	_Danny_B_: Not at the moment
[00:32:14] <_Danny_B_>	cloakable: do you plan any?
[00:32:57] <_Danny_B_>	Worby: how come you're masked under this nick today? ;-)
[00:33:49] <Worby>	:-)
[00:33:52] <Worby>	I'm not at home
[00:34:02] *Worby 	is kinda away :-)
[00:34:22] *Worby 	is impressed you noticed :-D
[00:34:37] <Worby_away>	brb
[00:38:26] <MessedRocker>	how can i enable uploading .wav files to my own wiki?
[00:39:08] <jeremyb>	images are already working?
[00:39:26] <MessedRocker>	yes image uploading is enabled
[00:39:47] <cloakable>	Power just went
[00:39:56] *jeremyb 	has exhausted his knowledge of uploads :-P
[00:40:21] <cloakable>	_Danny_B_: I don't plan on a robots.txt, unless I need one
[00:41:55] <jeremyb>	cloakable: i might be able to get you mod_rewrite rules for a production site that's set up the way you want
[00:42:19] <cloakable>	jeremyb: please?
[00:42:58] <cloakable>	My website is going to be pure wiki, and the /index.php/ thing is ugly :P
[00:43:35] <_Danny_B_>	cloakable: just wanted to remind, that if sitename.tld/articlename form is used, robots.txt may be difficult to reach
[00:44:08] <SimonMoon>	_Danny_B_: Not really, you can simply exclude it along with favicon.ico if you like..
[00:44:31] <cloakable>	_Danny_B_: Heh, I don't mind robots crawling my site
[00:44:55] <SimonMoon>	Besides teh standard setup as describe on the manual only catches non existant files...
[00:45:11] <jeremyb>	cloakable: you know ubuntu.com's main site (not the wiki) is also a wiki. (or was.  there was talk of changing it but idk what happened)  both are/were moinmoin.  they had the edit links and other junk hidden for the main website one
[00:45:38] <_Danny_B_>	SimonMoon: until you want to write articles with such name ;-)
[00:45:50] <cloakable>	jeremyb: I didn't know that
[00:47:34] <CIA-15>	03tstarling * r25262 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added /etc/apache2/envvars
[00:52:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add ordered/unordered list buttons to edit toolbar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11018  (10danny_b)
[00:53:07] <cloakable>	So can anyone help with my request? :)
[00:56:05] <Simetrical>	cloakable, you want a robots.txt.  Otherwise tons of stupid stuff like edit pages will waste spiders' time since they access but can't index.  What was your request?
[00:56:12] *Worby_away 	huggles TimStarling
[00:56:14] *Simetrical 	scrolls up
[00:56:39] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: short urls as sitename.tld/articlename
[00:56:50] <cloakable>	Indeed
[00:56:52] <Simetrical>	Oh, well, if that's what you really want, and that was your question, you can do it.  There's a page "very short URL" or something.
[00:57:01] <cloakable>	Is there?
[00:57:10] <Simetrical>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_a_very_short_URL
[00:58:01] <cloakable>	Ahhhh.
[00:58:27] <Simetrical>	For that matter, you still have to allow some kind of public access to directories like skins.
[00:58:28] <cloakable>	Simetrical: There's no reccomended way?
[00:58:30] <Simetrical>	So that interferes too.
[00:58:31] <Worby>	Simetrical, _Danny_B_: anyone mind if I import that to MediaWiki and add it to the other page?
[00:58:41] <Simetrical>	No.  It's not recommended to do, it causes headaches.
[00:58:56] <Simetrical>	Worby, I doubt anyone minds.  You're a mw.org sysop (so you can import properly)?
[00:58:57] <_Danny_B_>	Worby: GO!
[00:59:15] <Worby>	Simetrical: yes
[00:59:18] <Worby>	Danny_B: :-D
[01:00:24] <Simetrical>	Worby, k.
[01:01:32] <Worby>	ugh, somehow it got double-imported
[01:02:12] *Worby 	cleans up his mess
[01:03:28] <_Danny_B_>	shame on you, Worby 
[01:04:04] <Worby>	:-)
[01:07:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add "nofollow" to links to Special: Random on navigation panel and search engines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8411  (10robchur)
[01:09:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) internal link with parameters but without nofollow - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8410  (10robchur)
[01:11:19] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r25263 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage_body.php): 
[01:11:19] <CIA-15>	*Check user page/talk existence
[01:11:19] <CIA-15>	*Remove some query cruft
[01:11:19] <CIA-15>	*Use dbkey when checking log_title (not username)
[01:13:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Medium-trust mode for Special:Import using uploading user' s credentials and current timestamp - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8319  (10robchur)
[01:13:42] <Worby>	Simetrical, _Danny_B_: I didn't copy the talk page, it looked like non-important stuff... and i didn't add it to the main page (because that page is so full already) but either of you (or anyone else) is free to if they feel tehy can condense it enough (you both probablyw ont' have enough time :-P )
[01:14:31] <SimonMoon>	_Danny_B_: When you want to write articles with names like robots.txt and favicon.ico then that wouldn;t work in the first place, as MediaWiki wants the first letter to be large ;)
[01:15:08] <_Danny_B_>	SimonMoon: not necesarily, it's configurable
[01:15:27] <Worby>	big bug (8319)
[01:16:54] <_Danny_B_>	SimonMoon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LocalSettings.php#Force_capital_links
[01:19:29] <Simetrical>	SimonMoon, but it will redirect the first-letter-small variant to the large one, so it doesn't matter.
[01:21:19] <_Danny_B_>	is the css url value protection in mediawiki by default or it's only for wikimedia sites?
[01:22:04] <SimonMoon>	True, still, who would want a structure with the wiki article path in the root and then overwrite a robots.txt and favicon.ico (and info.txt or other such pages) while disabling the forcing of capital letters? It is a rather weird set of curcumstances you would need to get to that result :)
[01:22:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow navigating a specific number of revisions back/ forward when viewing old revisions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8669  normal->low (10robchur)
[01:22:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Parser functions for media file size and type - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8587  (10robchur)
[01:24:32] <robchurch>	_Danny_B_: Default, if you're talking about what I think you are - see includes/Sanitizer.php.
[01:25:18] <_Danny_B_>	SimonMoon: i already met such case. one guy wanted to set wiki about website creation which included articles like robots.txt, .htaccess, favicon.ico etc.
[01:27:11] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: yep, thx
[01:28:28] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Prompt for reason when deleting older revisions of images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8477  +comment (10robchur)
[01:28:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to give a reason when deleting old image revision - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7535  +comment (10robchur)
[01:29:32] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: does it check messages also?
[01:29:43] <robchurch>	what
[01:30:52] <_Danny_B_>	i mean does the sanitizer protect url() from eg. mediawiki.monobook.css? and how about user:foo/monobook.css?
[01:32:27] <CIA-15>	03rotem * r25264 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (checkExtensioni18n.php checkExtensions.php): 
[01:32:27] <CIA-15>	* Rename script - easier to remember and use.
[01:32:27] <CIA-15>	* Update comment.
[01:32:27] <CIA-15>	* Change group in docs.
[01:34:43] <SimonMoon>	_Danny_B_: not saying its impossible, but rare. Most people dont run a wiki with that kind of content i would think :)
[01:34:43] <CIA-15>	03rotem * r25265 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkExtensions.php: Fix.
[01:34:56] <CIA-15>	03robchurch * r25266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Update documentation for Language::truncate()
[01:35:01] <SimonMoon>	And now i have a small problem
[01:35:46] <SimonMoon>	An extension i am writing creates some output... and for some reason, in the output there is a <p> </p> block popping up automagically in there, killing the extensions output in effect.
[01:37:23] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Custom Namespace Renders Exisiting Pages Inaccessable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11105 minor; lowest; MediaWiki: API; (obsessivemathsfreak)
[01:38:03] <_Danny_B_>	SimonMoon: checked all newlines?
[01:38:32] <Worby>	robchurch: where's the code for "Give Trust"?
[01:39:02] <robchurch>	What is "Give Trust"?
[01:39:19] <Worby>	Trusted*
[01:39:36] <Worby>	Give Trusted Allows local bureaucrats to give Trusted status to a user Az1568 & Rob Church 
[01:39:54] <robchurch>	I've no idea.
[01:40:01] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Custom Namespace Renders Exisiting Pages Inaccessable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11105  -accessibility -shell ; +comment (10robchur)
[01:40:03] <Worby>	:(
[01:40:06] <robchurch>	I would assume it's an extension based on MakeBot or GiveRollback.
[01:40:23] <robchurch>	(Hence the attribution)
[01:40:24] <Worby>	it is, but I was wondering if there weas code on subversion for it
[01:40:32] <Worby>	ah, I see, but yeah it is
[01:40:35] <robchurch>	Not for that particular extension, no.
[01:40:50] <Worby>	k
[01:41:05] *robchurch 	cheers
[01:41:24] *Worby 	wonders why he's cheering
[01:41:38] <robchurch>	(bug 11105) One of those rare times when we can say, "well, fuck you - it was *beautifully documented*"
[01:41:51] <Worby>	haha
[01:42:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable filtered url values in CSS allowing to link local files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11106 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (danny_b)
[01:42:22] <Worby>	:-D
[01:44:24] <robchurch>	NOT ANOTHER FUCKING BLACKLIST MESSAGE :(
[01:45:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable filtered url values in CSS allowing to link local files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11106  normal->15enhancement (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[01:45:02] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: did not say it's must. it's meant as possible add on
[01:45:35] <Simetrical>	robchurch, this could be a quiet little default that works for most people, though.
[01:45:46] <robchurch>	You wouldn't want to add to it as often as you might want to add to a username or spam blacklist.
[01:45:47] <Simetrical>	In practice only places like Wikimedia would need to change it (maybe Wikia, etc.).
[01:46:08] <robchurch>	Nobody cares about Wikia.
[01:47:13] <Worby>	haha
[01:47:49] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: just a technical question (so i'll know for future) - why did you change it to enhancement? i thought enhancement is brand new function (which actually the second part - url whitelist would be), but the base i thought is just changing of settings...
[01:48:16] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, enhancement = not a bug, a feature request.
[01:48:41] <Simetrical>	The current function is working as designed.  Improvements are enhancements, things like "normal" mean "normal-severity bug".
[01:49:00] <_Danny_B_>	well, i think it actually is a bug since it blocks from effective using of css
[01:50:58] <Simetrical>	Something can't be a bug if it's working as designed.
[01:51:01] <Simetrical>	This is working as designed.
[01:51:07] <Simetrical>	It may, of course, be undesirable.
[01:51:32] <_Danny_B_>	ok then. thx for explanation
[01:52:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Disable CAPTCHA for bot flagged accounts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11078  (10fearow00)
[01:53:11] *Worby 	blinks
[01:53:46] <robchurch>	DON'T BLINK
[01:53:50] <robchurch>	Didn't you watch Doctor Who?
[01:53:52] <robchurch>	NEVER BLINK
[01:53:55] <Worby>	:-P
[01:54:08] <robchurch>	Blink and you're dead!
[01:54:35] <TheFearow>	THere are starting to be a lot of blacklists/whitelists/etc.
[01:54:54] <robchurch>	Do you know why that is?
[01:55:02] <robchurch>	It's because all programmers are inherently viciously racist.
[01:55:20] <Simetrical>	Damn straight.
[01:55:36] <Simetrical>	I make sure to separate whites and coloreds every couple of weeks, whenever I do my laundry.
[01:55:45] <Simetrical>	Not going to have them sharing a washer.
[01:56:08] *robchurch 	nods
[02:05:53] <Simetrical>	robchurch, do you think a "find all contributions by a user to this page" feature would be a good idea?
[02:05:54] <Simetrical>	I do.
[02:06:11] *Simetrical 	eyes the revision table and starts stealthily approaching it, index in hand
[02:06:33] <robchurch>	Absolutely.
[02:07:28] *Simetrical 	shrugs and gives it a whirl
[02:07:56] <robchurch>	A whirl? Don't let's be silly...anyone might get the impression you enjoy it.
[02:07:59] <Simetrical>	(or more precisely, I'll just add the index now and wait for the next schema update to go through before actually implementing the feature)
[02:08:23] <robchurch>	That's very wise.
[02:17:16] *Simetrical 	considers whether to do (rev_page,rev_user,rev_timestamp) or (rev_user,rev_page,rev_timestamp)
[02:18:28] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: is it actually filtering of history of page by user?
[02:18:54] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, what?
[02:19:18] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: the "find all contributions by a user to this page" feature you suggested
[02:20:33] <Simetrical>	Well, yes, it would basically do that.
[02:22:02] <Simetrical>	Wow, this is taking a minute to run even on my dump of simple-wiki.
[02:22:07] <Simetrical>	Gonna take a while on enwiki.
[02:22:12] <Simetrical>	Any other indexes people want on revision?  :)
[02:22:29] <robchurch>	Can I have a pink one?
[02:22:42] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: i've added enhancement request for this about month ago (10788) so i thought you might be interested in assigning yourself there?
[02:24:03] <_Danny_B_>	or add comments or thoughts
[02:24:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Filter page histories by user, or contributions by title - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10788   +schema-change; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[02:25:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change wikiquote into wikivitnun - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11096  (10steinninn)
[02:29:25] <_Danny_B_>	good any-part-of-the-day-you're-in everybody
[02:32:06] <SimonMoon>	hmm ok, i checked the extension, it adds new lines in it...
[02:32:37] <SimonMoon>	So there is no way i can have new lines in the contet i add with an extension, that dont get encircled by <p> </p> by the wiki ?
[02:33:28] <SimonMoon>	Here is the code: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Simon_Moon/AdSense_Extension
[02:33:29] <CIA-15>	03simetrical * r25267 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[02:33:29] <CIA-15>	* Add an index to (rev_page,rev_user,rev_timestamp) for use in "All edits by a
[02:33:29] <CIA-15>	user to this page". Also potentially useful for "edits to a page grouped by
[02:33:29] <CIA-15>	user". (Would "edits by a user grouped by page" be more useful instead?) See
[02:33:29] <CIA-15>	bug 10788. Code to implement that feature will follow at some point when the
[02:33:31] <CIA-15>	index has actually been applied to Wikimedia servers, probably shortly after I
[02:33:33] <CIA-15>	get annoyed at its nonexistence again when looking for an old edit of mine.
[02:34:09] <Simetrical>	SimonMoon, there's a way, I'm certain.  I don't know it, though.
[02:34:42] <robchurch>	Oh, god, tell me I haven't just found a race condition in this code...
[02:34:48] <SimonMoon>	So for now i simply have to avoid any \n in there? Its important as the <p> tags screw up the part in there that is the javascript from google adsense
[02:35:20] <robchurch>	...welcome to hell. :(
[02:35:35] <Simetrical>	robchurch, do you know how extensions can stop <p>'s from being stuck in all over the place?
[02:35:50] <amazingdave>	how do I make those sort of blocky sections on my wiki like on the front page of wikipedia?
[02:35:51] <SimonMoon>	robchurch: my code?
[02:35:56] <robchurch>	Remove newlines from the output?
[02:36:02] <amazingdave>	they have their front page content broken up into sort of blocks
[02:36:07] <robchurch>	SimonMoon: No, some code I'm working on for a friend.
[02:36:08] <Simetrical>	amazingdave, CSS.
[02:36:24] <Simetrical>	robchurch, there's no way for extensions to tell the Parser to keep its grubby hands off their output?
[02:36:26] <SimonMoon>	puh, thought i had a big screw up in there for a second :)
[02:36:32] <robchurch>	Probably not.
[02:36:47] <robchurch>	Wrap it in a <div> and see if Tidy/Sanitizer sorts it out?
[02:36:51] <SimonMoon>	killing all new lines works
[02:37:05] <Simetrical>	SimonMoon, removing newlines won't hurt the validity of your output.  Do make sure you don't comment out things by removing a line break that follows a one-line comment, though.
[02:37:08] <SimonMoon>	the ads show up like they shod now
[02:37:24] <SimonMoon>	The problem is google itself
[02:37:37] <SimonMoon>	They are touchy about code modification...
[02:38:36] <SimonMoon>	Well its now one large line in the html... at least its working properly and less chances of someone injecting something awful in it too
[02:38:55] <robchurch>	Does the script have to go in the body?
[02:39:08] <SimonMoon>	its one large block
[02:39:40] <SimonMoon>	<script type="text/javascript"> google_ad_client = "pub-XXX";
[02:39:48] <SimonMoon>	a few more lines with arguments like the ad client
[02:39:54] <SimonMoon>	and then a call to the url of the script
[02:39:59] <SimonMoon>	and that for each location of an ad
[02:40:40] <SimonMoon>	The currently listed extension for this just wraps the script tags around what you give it, which is a huge open hole for all kinds of nastyness
[02:41:25] <SimonMoon>	Mike Dillon came up with the simple ide of using somethign like <adsense ad_client="pub-XXX" ... /> which then would be safer
[02:41:48] <SimonMoon>	Like sanitizing the input etc.
[02:41:59] <robchurch>	Well, provided you escape things properly.
[02:43:06] <SimonMoon>	$output .= preg_replace('/([\\\\"])/', '\\\\$1', $args[$key]);
[02:43:10] <adam1213>	how can i use the mediawiki code to convert wikitext to html?
[02:43:18] <SimonMoon>	thats what i use for sanitizing, think thats enough? :)
[02:43:37] <robchurch>	heh
[02:43:48] <SimonMoon>	adam1213: thats what the wiki does when you save the text on a page, or what do you mean?
[02:43:54] <robchurch>	alert( result.responseText ) => Message box with a shit load of XML in it.
[02:44:28] <SimonMoon>	what would you do to ensure no javascript injection there rob?
[02:45:19] <SimonMoon>	the values the user can give are just the part that is inside teh quotation marks: google_ad_client = "pub-XXX"; so in this case pub-XXX is what they can put in there..
[02:45:44] <adam1213>	from reading how a linux only offline wiki worked, in using the bz2 file i wanted tt make my own windows (and hopefully cross platform one that would use the bz2 file (i split it up into lots of bits and can read and extract a file individually with a bit of the xml, and will built an index from that, i want to turn the wiki text from that to html
[02:46:54] <robchurch>	Why not just use an HTML dump?
[02:47:00] <SimonMoon>	adam1213: Well in essence you need to write your own parser... one that does the same the official parser does, good luck.
[02:47:02] <adam1213>	a lot bigger
[02:47:15] <adam1213>	why cant i use the mediawiki one
[02:47:24] <SimonMoon>	Well its php...
[02:47:35] <adam1213>	and i am planning in writting it in php
[02:47:36] <SimonMoon>	If you can run that, you can just as well show the mediawiki..
[02:47:41] <SimonMoon>	...
[02:48:02] <robchurch>	Because the MediaWiki Parser is so tightly integrated with everything else that you'll have to hack out quite a lot of code just to make it work.
[02:48:18] <adam1213>	if you extract the 2.8 gig bz2 file for en wiki it becomes 12 gigs. (and if you import it into mysql it can apparently be 34 hours...)
[02:48:28] <robchurch>	It's not an isolated module to which you just hand some text and options, although in theory it should be.
[02:49:00] <robchurch>	This question probably comes up once or twice a month; read the mailing list archives.
[02:49:01] <adam1213>	is there a reason that its not a module?
[02:49:19] <SimonMoon>	Practial application is where everyting works and nobody knows why. Theory is where nothing works and everybody knows why...
[02:49:22] <robchurch>	Because the Parser wasn't coded, the Parser grew?
[02:49:39] <amazingdave>	how do I hide the content menue on my front page?
[02:49:48] <amazingdave>	you know... the index that is auto generated
[02:49:54] <robchurch>	amazingdave: The table of contents? Add __NOTOC__ to the page text.
[02:49:55] <adam1213>	the other idea i had was to use mysql to store everything except the text and to insert my own text from the bz2 files
[02:50:01] <SimonMoon>	__NOTOC__ in the wiki text
[02:50:06] <SimonMoon>	amazingdave
[02:50:07] <amazingdave>	thank you sirs
[02:50:17] <adam1213>	but i could not find where to get rid of the mysql access and put that in
[02:50:56] <robchurch>	In theory, you could abuse the external storage system to do that, if you write an appropriate ES wrapper, and fake up the text records appropriately.
[02:51:30] <robchurch>	Who was it who did some work with MWDumper?
[02:51:49] <robchurch>	I think it might have been the guy who was doing hand-held Wikipedia distributions? He managed to crank it up to a reasonable import rate...
[02:56:02] <SimonMoon>	Yeah i remmeber him, didnt he do like 4 projects in 8 languages or something like that?
[02:56:28] <SimonMoon>	But i think he mostly just optimized the queries...
[03:09:24] <sausageman>	is there any way to make mediawiki's auth mechanism use PAM or /etc/shadow somehow?
[03:09:38] <Simetrical>	Using an extension, yes.
[03:09:39] <robchurch>	AuthPlugin?
[03:10:16] <sausageman>	i mean, a preexisting extension or something, rather than having to hack my own together
[03:10:36] <sausageman>	i googled but couldn't find anything
[03:15:13] <Simetrical>	sausageman, tried searching mediawiki.org?
[03:15:45] <sausageman>	nah i'll try that.. if not i'll just hack it up myself :) thanks
[03:16:11] <robchurch>	I've got it.
[03:16:32] <robchurch>	Instead of throwing exceptions, MediaWiki should play the music video from The Chicken Song, as a sort of mockery for the user.
[03:24:07] <Simetrical>	How about instead of throwing exceptions, MediaWiki magically fixes itself?
[03:24:44] <robchurch>	Why would you fix things when you can piss people off and make them depressed?
[03:24:58] <robchurch>	Where's your goddamn BOFH instinct, Simetrical?
[03:25:24] <Simetrical>	I sold it for $50 to a wannabe sysadmin, some months ago.
[03:25:44] <robchurch>	:'(
[03:36:34] <SimonMoon>	hmm is there any GOOD way to show an RSS feed in a wiki?
[03:36:50] <SimonMoon>	I think i tried now all the RSS extensions i could find on mw.org
[03:40:30] <Cobi>	Create a bot to parse the RSS into wikitext, then upload it to the page ;)
[03:43:06] <SimonMoon>	hmm a real cron job for that, yeah that might actully work better
[03:44:18] <SimonMoon>	hmm i have to handle extrnal images and quotes though, thats why i wanted to use an extension, so i can use the html
[04:02:07] <amazingdave>	I guess its a CSS thing, but can someone help me finish off the formatting for the front page of my wiki
[04:02:31] <amazingdave>	I am just trying to center something and get rid of the white bit, for someone who knows css, this is proably simple
[04:08:52] <robchurch>	I am distinctly depressed by what was the UK number one single when I was born.
[04:09:23] <robchurch>	However, upon reflection, if I'd been born the previous month, I think it would have depressed me more.
[04:37:44] <amazingdave>	anyone know of an extension for mediawiki that I could use to add a map where everyone coupld mark their locations?
[04:50:00] *zyraxx 	is away: lunch time
[04:50:16] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New Namespaces on german wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11101  +comment (10jeluf)
[05:08:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change wikiquote into wikivitnun - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11096  +comment (10jeluf)
[05:12:56] <Cobi>	domas: Did you get my notice?
[05:13:12] <domas>	probably :)
[05:13:22] <domas>	according to IRC standard, notices do not need replies! :)
[05:13:29] <Cobi>	That is true.
[05:14:17] <Cobi>	Actually, according to the RFC, notices should not ellicit an automated response.
[05:14:24] <domas>	but I'm a bot
[05:14:29] <domas>	all my responses are automatic
[05:15:01] <Cobi>	I doubt that.
[05:15:42] <Cobi>	If you were a bot, you wouldn't have misquoted the RFC ;)
[05:17:06] <Cobi>	Furthermore, bots tend to use proper grammar.
[05:17:46] <domas>	me a chinese bot
[05:17:50] <domas>	me no need grammar
[05:18:05] <domas>	and who are you?!!?
[05:18:11] <domas>	why are you running bots in our channel!!?
[05:19:04] <Cobi>	Also, a bot with as much artificial intelligence as you demonstrate would have taken note as to the consistent nick!user@host of ClueBot and would have set an appropriately wide ban, one that doesn't generate false positives :)
[05:19:49] <Simetrical>	Unless it was a vindictive bot, which seems likely from past behavior.
[05:20:32] <domas>	Cobi: why should I care? :)
[05:20:37] <domas>	it doesn't ban me, for what I know of.
[05:20:37] <Cobi>	Maybe I should leave a note with it's owner saying that it is malfunctioning by setting too wide a ban.
[05:20:49] <Cobi>	;)
[05:22:19] *Cobi 	tries a different tactic: you don't ban nagios-wm when it floods :)
[05:23:20] <domas>	because we run nagios ourselves
[05:23:24] <domas>	and sometimes we silence it
[05:24:05] <domas>	now, who uses database lag information and why it needs reporting on -tech channel?
[05:24:53] <Cobi>	The bot only reports it when it is higher than 10 seconds.  I would think that it is a technical issue when it is so high.
[05:25:26] <domas>	heeeeeeee
[05:27:17] <Cobi>	If you do not want the bot, I will make it leave, but I respectfully request that I be unbanned.
[05:31:32] <Simetrical>	10 seconds' replication lag isn't much.
[05:31:39] <Simetrical>	Unless it's really persistent.
[05:33:38] <Cobi>	I could change it to something different, or I could remove the bot from that channel, but I would like to be unbanned.  I am not even on the same IP as the bot, I see no reason to ban both me and the bot.
[05:42:50] <domas>	there're some things we could do better there
[05:42:55] <domas>	but not that some bot is going to help us :-)
[05:43:01] <domas>	the lag is usually very very intermittent
[05:43:10] <domas>	so at the time one logs in, it is gone, usually :)
[05:43:15] <Lauer>	Hello, I have a problem with logging into my wiki. I can create a new user, and get automatic logged in, but when I log out and try to login again, an error raise says that the username is wrong
[05:43:45] <Lauer>	what can the problem be? I have checked in the database, that I am using the correct username
[05:53:40] <robchurch>	Arguing with domas is pointless. He's Lithuanian. They Just Don't Give A Shit.
[05:59:22] *zyraxx 	is back (gone 01:09:23)
[06:18:38] <RudyValencia>	I don't understand skinning mediawiki
[06:18:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (steinninn)
[06:19:51] <RudyValencia>	i'd give my right arm for a commented monobook.php
[06:20:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[06:35:36] <_wooz>	lo
[06:41:08] <VoiceOfAll>	Simetrical: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/1408
[06:41:12] <VoiceOfAll>	lol, youtube
[06:43:06] <RudyValencia>	i'd give my right arm for a commented monobook.php :/
[06:43:43] <RudyValencia>	...does MediaWiki read any comments in the skin file?
[06:45:03] <domas>	RudyValencia: do note, there might be no way back.
[06:45:20] <domas>	I may really come and claim your right arm!
[06:45:23] <RudyValencia>	domas: I don't need my right arm
[06:45:28] <RudyValencia>	it never did me any good anyway
[06:45:33] *RudyValencia 	is lefthanded
[06:46:14] *Dantman|FS 	chops off RudyValencia's right arm and programs it to write the comments itself...
[06:46:37] <RudyValencia>	well, stuff like <?php if($this->data['catlinks']) { ?><div id="catlinks"><?php $this->html('catlinks') ?></div><?php } ?> is confusing
[06:48:18] <RudyValencia>	I don't understand why the devs never took a few minutes to write some nice, friendly explanations of those
[06:51:36] *RudyValencia 	thinks about discontinuing his regular donations to wikipedia
[07:17:40] <CIA-15>	03david * r25268 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtModel.php LqtPages.php): history closer to working. note to erik: don't try it yet. ripped out paging temoprarily.
[07:31:30] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25269 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (SpecialTransaction.php Transaction.php): fix Special:Transaction
[07:42:12] *NotAMused 	pokes Simetrical|away 
[07:42:13] <NotAMused>	dammit
[07:52:21] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25270 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (App.php OmegaWiki/SpecialAddCollection.php): message cleanup
[08:01:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create namespaces on pt.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11108 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rei.artur)
[08:02:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create namespaces on pt.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11108   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[08:47:31] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25271 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/SpecialNeedsTranslation.php: fix notices
[09:21:29] <ChemicalBit>	hello! How can I ask a WMF dev to change (rollback actually) localization of 
[09:21:37] <ChemicalBit>	a special page name, in a WMF project ?
[09:23:29] <Nikerabbit>	which one and why
[09:23:47] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25272 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (OmegaWikiAttributes.php SpecialDatasearch.php): 
[09:23:47] <CIA-15>	fix singleton code for OwA
[09:23:47] <CIA-15>	fix search header
[09:24:24] <Raymond_>	ChemicalBit: what's wrong with the localization? which language?
[09:25:08] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25273 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/TESTING: +some basic testing procedures
[09:26:08] <ChemicalBit>	Raymond_: it.wikipeda (and maybe toher it poroject). It is not _wrong_ , actually, it's only ;-) to avoid a bug
[09:26:41] <Raymond_>	ChemicalBit: which bug? maybe de.wp is effected also?
[09:26:59] <ChemicalBit>	double escaping of stressed letter, already fixed in developing version (fixed 2on fly" by a kind user of #wikimedia-tech) 
[09:27:19] <ChemicalBit>	but he was not aware when this change wil be on work on it.wikiepdia
[09:28:56] <ChemicalBit>	 Raymond_: ChemicalBit: which bug? maybe de.wp is effected also? <--- maybe, if you have .... (searching the word)  Umlaut   in URL
[09:29:30] <Raymond_>	yeah. Umlaut :) äöüß
[09:30:16] <Raymond_>	we have Umlauts in our special page names localizations but I am not aware of any problem
[09:35:07] <VoiceOfAll>	Raymond_: http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1996-04.html
[09:35:09] <VoiceOfAll>	wtf?
[09:36:07] <Raymond_>	ouch...
[09:36:23] <Raymond_>	that's bad, very bad...
[09:36:31] <puzzlet>	bad boy
[09:37:00] <Nikerabbit>	ChemicalBit: don't you remember me? :o
[09:47:14] <paulbe__>	hello ;-)
[09:48:49] <paulbe__>	i'm newbie here :-p can i hask a question in french or in english ?
[09:49:06] <paulbe__>	puis je poser une question en français ?
[09:49:30] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: do not ask to ask, ask (see topic) ;-)
[09:51:25] <paulbe__>	thank's raymond_ ,i'm sorry :-) if i'm not admin from a wiki can i export the totality of the "text" ?
[09:52:09] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: should be possible via [[Special:Export]] for normal users.
[09:53:46] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: hoe can I make that with : http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Accueil ?
[09:55:02] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Special:Export/Documentation Claroline
[09:56:06] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: but i have just this : <mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr"></mediawiki>
[09:57:26] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: which browser do you use? I assume you can click on a + sign to expand the xml tree
[09:57:39] <Raymond_>	and save the xml file via "save as"
[09:58:14] <paulbe__>	i use mozilla on PC, I try with IE ;-)
[09:58:47] <Raymond_>	Firefox would be the best :)
[09:59:45] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: on IE I have the same => <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
[09:59:47] <paulbe__>	<mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr">
[09:59:48] <paulbe__>	</mediawiki>
[09:59:51] <paulbe__>	???
[09:59:59] <Raymond_>	no + sign on the left?
[10:00:11] <paulbe__>	no :-(
[10:01:08] <Raymond_>	try "file" -> "save as"
[10:02:55] <paulbe__>	with save as I have just => <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
[10:02:57] <paulbe__>	<mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr">
[10:02:58] <paulbe__>	</mediawiki>
[10:03:00] <paulbe__>	In the text :-(
[10:03:46] <CIA-15>	03kim * r25274 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:03:46] <CIA-15>	Adding some futt bugly copy code. Only advantage is that
[10:03:46] <CIA-15>	it isn't obscured by multiple layers of anything else,
[10:03:46] <CIA-15>	so hopefully easier to work with for now.
[10:05:44] <TheFearow>	All userspace .js files are fully protected to all but owner automatically, correct?
[10:07:18] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: I doesn't understand why it's not work ?
[10:07:46] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: mee too. I can use it with FireFox 2 without problems
[10:07:55] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: do you see the + ?
[10:08:05] <Raymond_>	ye
[10:08:07] <Raymond_>	s
[10:08:13] <paulbe__>	:-(
[10:08:44] <paulbe__>	wath is your navigateur ? Raymond_ 
[10:08:54] <MinuteElectron>	TheFearow: correct
[10:09:19] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: navigateur? browser? Firefox 2.0.0.6
[10:09:45] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: me too ????
[10:10:41] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: you are on PC ?
[10:10:45] <Raymond_>	yes
[10:10:54] <paulbe__>	ouch !
[10:10:58] <paulbe__>	me too
[10:12:19] <Raymond_>	strange
[10:13:26] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: what, categorytree?
[10:13:33] <Duesentrieb>	have you looked at the error console?
[10:14:37] <paulbe__>	Duesentrieb: i Have this message in firefox =>         Ce fichier XML ne semble pas avoir d'information de style lui étant associé. L'arbre du document est montré ci-dessous.
[10:15:08] <Raymond_>	Duesentrieb: special:export
[10:15:22] <Platonides>	paulbe__, that's normal
[10:15:29] <paulbe__>	and than => <mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr"></mediawiki> It's all :-(
[10:15:34] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: sorry, i don't speak french.... 
[10:15:47] <paulbe__>	no problem Duesentrieb 
[10:16:03] <Duesentrieb>	special:export doesn't work?
[10:16:16] <Duesentrieb>	well, doesn't work how?
[10:16:27] <Raymond_>	Duesentrieb: it works, I have tested it. but paulbe__ did not see the xml data 
[10:16:39] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: look at the page source (ctrl-u)
[10:16:40] <paulbe__>	no i have just : <mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr"></mediawiki>
[10:16:53] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: when using save-as, make sure to select "html only", not "full page".
[10:17:14] <paulbe__>	I try
[10:17:22] *Duesentrieb 	once more thinks about implementing a "send zipfile" option.
[10:17:47] <Duesentrieb>	browsers try to display XML. if it'S a lot, it kills them...
[10:18:08] <Raymond_>	Duesentrieb: it's implemented in trunk already. [x]  Als XML-Datei speichern
[10:18:08] <Platonides>	Duesentrieb, where's the difference? zipped xml  or gzipped xml
[10:18:16] <Platonides>	yes
[10:18:51] <paulbe__>	Duesentrieb: It's the same :-( I don't understand
[10:18:54] <Duesentrieb>	Raymond_, Platonides: as Content-Type, or Transfer-Encoding?
[10:19:07] <Platonides>	content-type i think
[10:19:26] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: perhaps the page you want to export doesn't exist, or you don't have permission to read it? note that special:Export doesn't report errors. it simply ignores pages it can't output.
[10:20:00] <Duesentrieb>	Platonides: that would be new. never saw that. would be good to have - because in that case, the browser woulod *never* try to display it, but open a save-as prompt.
[10:20:24] <paulbe__>	whyRaymond_  can see the + ???
[10:20:55] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: again: perhaps it really *is* empty because no pages are exported.
[10:21:04] <Raymond_>	http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Special:Export/Documentation_Claroline
[10:21:08] <Raymond_>	works for me
[10:21:17] <paulbe__>	this is the page => http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Accueil 
[10:21:36] <paulbe__>	why for Raymond_ and not for me ?
[10:21:42] <Duesentrieb>	yes, it works.
[10:21:50] <paulbe__>	:-5
[10:21:53] <paulbe__>	:-(
[10:22:04] <Duesentrieb>	Raymond_, Platonides: I don't see a "zip file" option on wikipedia...
[10:22:22] <Duesentrieb>	paulbe__: try to load with wget or something. are you using a proxy?
[10:22:35] <Raymond_>	Duesentrieb: [x] Als XML-Datei speichern
[10:22:43] <paulbe__>	i search this afternoon, thanks for all, I have not a proxy
[10:22:57] <Duesentrieb>	Raymond_: what? where? 
[10:23:20] <Duesentrieb>	oh, sorry 
[10:23:23] <Duesentrieb>	i see it now.
[10:23:24] <Raymond_>	http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Exportieren 
[10:23:27] <Raymond_>	ok :)
[10:23:29] <Duesentrieb>	yea
[10:24:13] <Duesentrieb>	hm... i wonder how it works...
[10:24:20] <Duesentrieb>	Disposition header?
[10:25:25] <Duesentrieb>	ah, ok: Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=Wikipedia-20070829102508.xml
[10:25:37] <Duesentrieb>	hm... does this work in MSIE too? I remeber problems with that...#
[10:26:07] <Duesentrieb>	the filename could be smarter, at least in the common case where only one file is given
[10:26:44] <paulbe__>	Raymond_: and Duesentrieb : I must go to heat but i stay listen to your messages, to later and many thanks ;-)
[10:26:58] <Raymond_>	paulbe__: ok, good luck
[10:42:37] <[KrusheR]>	hi
[10:43:51] <[KrusheR]>	how can i access to object &$parser from an arbitrary function?
[10:45:42] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: global $wgParser; but note that the parser contains state, and you have to be very carefull about what functions you call on it in what state of the overall process.
[10:45:56] <[KrusheR]>	thanks a lot Duesentrieb
[10:46:50] <[KrusheR]>	i'm trying to know if the current page is protected from an extension
[10:46:59] <[KrusheR]>	know, figure
[10:48:43] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: why do you need the parser for that?
[10:49:05] <Duesentrieb>	$wgTitle should be sufficient. it probably has a method like isProtected() or something
[10:49:13] <Duesentrieb>	using the parser for this seems... misguided.
[10:49:31] <[KrusheR]>	for checking the page group
[10:49:37] <[KrusheR]>	yes, i'm kinda lost
[10:49:51] <[KrusheR]>	do you know another way?
[10:50:56] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: "page group"? 
[10:51:19] <[KrusheR]>	i mean, 
[10:52:14] <[KrusheR]>	what group is allowed to edit a page
[10:53:04] <[KrusheR]>	in fact i just need a extension to work only if a page is protected
[10:53:05] <Duesentrieb>	you specify that on-page, using some special syntax? ugh. messy.
[10:53:10] <CIA-15>	03nikerabbit * r25275 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/Names.php): * Changed Uyghur (ug) label by request of Jose77 in Betawiki
[10:53:25] <Duesentrieb>	"an extension" is pretty broad.
[10:53:43] <Duesentrieb>	generally, you can simply check $wgTitle->isProtected
[10:54:05] <Duesentrieb>	but that'S only for "normal" protection. 
[10:54:26] <[KrusheR]>	you mean, administrator level?
[10:54:51] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: it doesn't take into account the overall privileges. it's probably better to use $wgTitle->userCan("edit")
[10:54:54] <Duesentrieb>	or some variant of it
[10:55:06] <Duesentrieb>	well, i don'Ät understand what exactly you are trying to do. and in what context.
[10:55:20] <Duesentrieb>	it sounds like you have gotten yourself into a conceptual tangle...
[10:55:31] <[KrusheR]>	i'm sorry, my english is not very good
[10:55:44] <[KrusheR]>	(as if you haven't noticed yet)
[10:56:19] <Duesentrieb>	i havn't noticed, so it's good enough :)
[10:57:19] <[KrusheR]>	wait, i think i got it
[10:58:03] <[KrusheR]>	no, i don't
[10:59:14] <Duesentrieb>	what type of extension are you writing? and what does it do?
[10:59:36] <[KrusheR]>	really i'm not writing any, i'm modyfing one 
[10:59:55] <[KrusheR]>	a poll extension, more especificly
[11:00:05] <[KrusheR]>	*specificly
[11:02:35] <[KrusheR]>	well, i almost got it
[11:02:39] <[KrusheR]>	it does the REVERSE thing
[11:04:17] <[KrusheR]>	got it! it was very simple after all
[11:04:33] <[KrusheR]>	if(!($wgTitle->isProtected('edit'))){ return ("not allowed"); } 
[11:07:21] <[KrusheR]>	well, thank you very much, Duesentrieb
[11:10:59] <Duesentrieb>	np
[11:11:00] <Duesentrieb>	have fun
[11:22:52] <CIA-15>	03kim * r25276 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/DefinedMeaning.php util/copy.php): Lets add a syntrans :-)
[11:29:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) namespace "Property" doesn' t work if translated into other languages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11109 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (alyx486)
[11:34:35] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25277 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (4 files): 
[11:34:35] <CIA-15>	fix addcollection dataset association
[11:34:35] <CIA-15>	small fixes
[11:44:52] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25278 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: fix notices
[11:45:46] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25279 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/DefinedMeaning.php: deprecate old copy code for a while
[11:45:47] <CIA-15>	03kim * r25280 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: merged changes (don't run this version yet though)
[11:49:34] <el_sjaako>	Im trying to make a special page, at this point just saying hahahahaha
[11:50:10] <el_sjaako>	I have managed to get it showing in the special pages list, but if I open it, opera tells me its being redirected back to the page
[11:51:27] <el_sjaako>	internet explorer can simply not display the website
[11:52:12] <el_sjaako>	I've changed very little of the example from the mediawiki wiki, except for dropping one bit
[11:52:44] <el_sjaako>	the myExtensionLocalizedPageName bit
[11:53:11] <el_sjaako>	because I will not cater to foreners
[11:53:16] <el_sjaako>	:P
[11:53:44] <el_sjaako>	does anyone have any experiance setting up a special page extention?
[11:58:06] <el_sjaako>	does anyone know where I could get a blank, useless, but functioning example of an extenion (so I don't have to seperate the function of the extention from the parts tht make the extention function)?
[11:59:36] <el_sjaako>	is noone here, or is knowone experienced with this?
[12:00:27] <CIA-15>	03kim * r25281 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: 
[12:00:27] <CIA-15>	util/copy.php now does autoconceptmapping
[12:00:27] <CIA-15>	TODO: massive refactor of copy.php
[12:01:25] <tinus__>	el_sjaako: doesn't the standard distribution contain sucha page?
[12:03:06] <el_sjaako>	I don't think so, but i'll
[12:03:11] <el_sjaako>	maybe I deleted it
[12:04:05] <tinus__>	did you check this page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages
[12:06:04] <el_sjaako>	thats  the one I pretty mutch copied
[12:06:09] <el_sjaako>	it seems messy
[12:06:50] <el_sjaako>	stuff like instructions saying the code should be called something.body.php, but the code referencing something_body.php
[12:08:02] <el_sjaako>	(it reminds me of not learning C for like 3 years because the hello world example that came with my compiler was broken :P. Examples should just work, on the first try)
[12:12:14] <Duesentrieb>	el_sjaako: sofixit, itsawiki.
[12:13:00] <el_sjaako>	I will, as soon as I figure out how it's supposed to work
[12:15:46] <Duesentrieb>	el_sjaako: the example looks ok to me, on first glance.
[12:21:09] <el_sjaako>	I'll try copining it litterally, then
[12:21:32] <el_sjaako>	I changed all the names to the one I need, and it won't work
[12:21:43] <el_sjaako>	but maybe it was a copiing mistake
[12:22:19] <Duesentrieb>	el_sjaako: if you call the special page "MySpecial" internally, there *must* be a system message defined for MySpecial (per default having the value "MySpecial").
[12:22:42] <Duesentrieb>	Defining system messages is done in the loadMessages bit.
[12:23:54] <Duesentrieb>	el_sjaako: in the example, the special page uses "MyExtension" as internal name, but the internationalization file has an entry for "myextension". I'm not sure if that's a mistake. I would expect it to be "MyExtension" there too.
[12:24:25] <el_sjaako>	I replaced every instance of myExtention and capitol variasions with checkorder
[12:24:43] <kushal>	can anyone tell me why this error is coming http://wiki.dgplug.org/ ?
[12:25:47] <Duesentrieb>	el_sjaako: note that when you are expected to provide canonical internal names, the first letter must be a capital letter (And spaces must be replaced by _, but i wouldn't put spaces into the internal name of a special page).
[12:31:08] <el_sjaako>	I'll try that, right after I manage to get the default example working
[12:35:02] <el_sjaako>	the files as pasted on the page do not work, but the downloaded files do, so I'll try working from those
[12:39:54] <el_sjaako>	wow... it works
[12:40:00] <el_sjaako>	thanks for the help
[12:40:26] <el_sjaako>	I'm now going to edit that page to bring foreward the downloadable versions more clearly
[13:07:50] <CIA-15>	03nikerabbit * r25282 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesOc.php): * Updates to Occitan (oc)
[13:13:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Edit sections sometimes disappear - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11110 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (salmira)
[13:15:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Change in Bengali Wikipedia {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11111 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bellayet)
[13:15:56] <CIA-15>	03nikerabbit * r25283 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesIs.php): * Updates to Icelandic (is)
[13:18:18] <CIA-15>	03tstarling * r25284 10/trunk/debs/php5-apc/debian/ (apc.ini changelog): apc.stat=On, like the rest of the cluster
[13:31:53] <CIA-15>	03nikerabbit * r25285 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesNo.php: * Updates to Norwegian (no)
[13:37:14] <CIA-15>	03nikerabbit * r25286 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesNl.php: * Updates to Dutch (nl)
[13:52:47] <bronxx>	hi.... ich richte gerade ein WIKI ein und habe ein paar kleinere Fragen....
[13:53:20] <bronxx>	wenn ich einen größeren artikel aus wikipedia.de kopiere dann ist dort manchmal eine infobox enthalten... diese wird in meiner installation aber nicht angezeigt
[13:53:28] <bronxx>	wie installiere ich diese vorlagen
[13:54:30] <CIA-15>	03erik * r25287 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/PropertyToColumnFilter.php: 
[13:54:30] <CIA-15>	simplify constructor for now as it broke existing configurations - difference
[13:54:30] <CIA-15>	between $caption and $propertyCaption needs to be documented if it is to be restored.
[13:56:08] <bronxx>	hello i have installed som wiki on my webserver. if i want to use some article with infoboxes from wikipedia.de the box  will not be shown in my wiki installation.
[13:56:31] <bronxx>	how can i install these infobox
[13:56:46] <ialexandre>	bronxx: the templates are listed after the textbox
[13:56:49] <CIA-15>	03mark * r25288 10/trunk/ubuntu/autoinstall/ (knams.cfg pmtpa-internal.cfg pmtpa.cfg yaseo.cfg): Allow apache/mediawiki to set the From address on outgoing mails
[13:57:33] <ialexandre>	when you edit the page
[13:57:55] <bronxx>	ok.. mom i will check this
[14:02:00] <bronxx>	ok...  why can i install that on my installation.... look @ http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile for original and http://se-pedia.se-talk.de/index.php?title=T-Mobile for copy
[14:02:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11112 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList2; (matasg2)
[14:03:41] <bronxx>	there is only shown that normaly there is an Template:Infobox but it will not displayed
[14:05:01] <bronxx>	its the same with quotes/links.... in den original the normale code is used and everything is correct, but in my test copy it doesn't works
[14:06:38] <ialexandre>	bronxx: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox Unternehmen and other templates, you need to upload all the images used, and all the linked pages
[14:06:44] <ialexandre>	or delete the links
[14:07:01] <ialexandre>	* http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Unternehmen
[14:07:57] <bronxx>	and if theres is every image online the infobox will be shown... ok so i test it
[14:08:40] <CIA-15>	03tstarling * r25289 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/ (debian/changelog php.ini): log_errors=on
[14:24:18] <bronxx>	ok very hard.... If i think right i habe to include every Template and if a template uses an other template i have to include it, too...... is there a chance to include every tmeplate at one time
[14:25:24] <ialexandre>	bronxx: all the used templates used are listed here : http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T-Mobile&action=edit
[14:26:30] <bronxx>	i know, an if i install these new template (click, paste) this template uses different templates
[14:26:45] <bronxx>	and this, too ans again and again
[14:27:48] <ialexandre>	bronxx: this lists all the used templates, also if they are included from a template
[14:29:09] <ParserFunctioner>	 I have a template which has tables  like this (you just need to  know the figure of template not its contents):
[14:29:24] <ParserFunctioner>	http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88:%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%87_%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86
[14:29:25] <Majorly_busy>	ParserFunctioner: use pastey
[14:30:06] <ParserFunctioner>	its blue rows are a topic like weather, geography, people
[14:30:38] <ParserFunctioner>	 and it has some rows in each of those categories
[14:30:53] <ParserFunctioner>	 the blue rows just should apear when one of the rows in it includes is defined
[14:31:24] <ParserFunctioner>	I've used a syntax like the one I'll show you in pasty now but it deosn't work :(
[14:32:37] <Jack_Phoenix>	hey brion :)
[14:33:21] <bronxx>	ok there are 6 template... in my edit only 4 templates are shown... but I have copied all the edit text
[14:36:38] <ParserFunctioner>	http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72905
[14:36:57] <ParserFunctioner>	this is the code of each row groups
[14:37:25] <brion-office>	morning all
[14:37:37] <ParserFunctioner>	the row title should be shown if one of its related topics is defined
[14:39:51] <bronxx>	now I habe unlocked the pages so that everybody can edit.... could you try to find my mistak
[14:39:51] <bronxx>	e
[14:40:53] <ParserFunctioner>	The english version of my pasty about the rows of that template: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72906
[14:42:22] <ParserFunctioner>	:(
[14:42:58] <ParserFunctioner>	Can it be a bug in ParserFunctions or I've misused it
[14:43:01] <ParserFunctioner>	?
[14:45:32] <Nikerabbit>	ugh
[14:45:41] <Nikerabbit>	my head explodes
[14:47:57] <feltipen>	could someone take a look at my wiki for a minute and advise me how to rid of this specific spammer-abuse problem?
[14:48:14] <feltipen>	http://wikiyork.org/york/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges
[14:48:19] <bronxx>	ok i found one of my mistakes....
[14:49:04] <feltipen>	people continually make new accounts and paste random yet intelligible content pages which also carry spam links 
[14:49:52] <Jack_Phoenix>	appoint more admins, install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist
[14:50:40] <feltipen>	only admins can delete pages and block?
[14:51:21] <Jack_Phoenix>	yes
[14:51:58] <feltipen>	hmm
[14:52:13] <feltipen>	thx
[14:53:10] <Jack_Phoenix>	also
[14:53:33] <Jack_Phoenix>	installing http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser might not be a bad idea at all; it requires MediaWiki 1.10+ though
[14:55:15] <ParserFunctioner>	http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72906
[14:56:01] <ParserFunctioner>	does anyone know the problem of parserfunctions here?
[14:56:50] <feltipen>	hm ill check that out too
[15:02:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add $wgCookiePrefix property - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10958  (10stephane.brunner)
[15:26:48] *brion-office 	stabs Simetrical|away
[15:30:16] <kunsole>	Hi. can I get something shorter the [[:Category:Corporation, Public]]?[[Category:Corporation, Public]]
[15:30:34] <kunsole>	like could I {{plc}}
[15:30:58] <CIA-15>	03brion * r25290 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Revert schema change in r25267 -- no more schema changes right before release please.
[15:31:01] <kunsole>	getting templates to work requires two things to work. the input template and how the template is presented
[15:31:46] <Quakeile>	how can I check if magpie is installed?
[15:33:10] <kunsole>	how can I make {{plc}} to turn into [[:Category:Corporation, Public]][[Category:Corporation, Public]]?
[15:34:40] <el_sjaako>	the text of Template:plc should be <includeonly>[[:Category:Corporation, Public]][[Category:Corporation, Public]]</includeonly>
[15:34:44] <el_sjaako>	I think
[15:34:50] <el_sjaako>	something like that
[15:35:22] <VasilVV>	brion-office: does we have interiwki prefix for SVN revisions?
[15:35:35] <brion-office>	try svn:
[15:35:42] <Jack_Phoenix>	or r:xxxxx
[15:35:43] <brion-office>	not sure offhand if it's there but try :D
[15:37:39] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107  +comment (10jeluf)
[15:38:22] <Raymond_afk>	it's [[rev:12345]] 
[15:38:29] <Jack_Phoenix>	ah :)
[15:40:47] <VasilVV>	And [[svn:File]] for log...
[15:41:25] <Quakeile>	ok, I've installed magpie, but I need to know the full patch to magpie, how can I find out this?
[15:41:49] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create namespaces on pt.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11108  +comment (10jeluf)
[15:42:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11112  (10robchur)
[15:46:24] <kunsole>	el_sjaako: thanks. I think I'm getting hold of it now. Categories are two-way links to their arrangement is trickier then ordinary links
[15:46:59] <kunsole>	el_sjaako: you wouldn't happen to know how to read variables in templates?
[15:47:26] <kunsole>	$variable_name or something?
[15:48:34] <el_sjaako>	that ones actually pretty easy to read from the tutorial
[15:49:17] <kunsole>	linky?
[15:49:41] <el_sjaako>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template
[15:49:56] <el_sjaako>	its long, but if I remeber correctly its pretty clear
[15:50:49] <el_sjaako>	you should ask me this stuff, I'm now doing stuff in PHP and I find myself having to look up either SQL or PHP every two minutes or so :P
[15:52:02] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX)  Configure Nagios to report to toolserver IRC for toolserver outages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10998  +comment (10jeluf)
[15:52:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) checkLanguage.php does not find unexisting messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (lejonel)
[15:54:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) checkLanguage.php does not find unexisting messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113  15enhancement->normal (10raimond.spekking)
[15:54:43] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) New namespace for Tables and Charts on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194  +comment (10jeluf)
[16:01:34] <CIA-15>	03brion * r25291 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Parser.php): (log message trimmed)
[16:01:34] <CIA-15>	Revert r25260; breaks several parser tests cases, seems to be borking up section IDs.
[16:01:34] <CIA-15>	8 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :(
[16:01:34] <CIA-15>	 * Basic section headings [Introduced between 29-Aug-2007 15:27:48, 1.11alpha (r25250) and 29-Aug-2007 15:55:07, 1.11alpha (r25289)]
[16:01:34] <CIA-15>	 * Section headings with TOC [Introduced between 29-Aug-2007 15:27:48, 1.11alpha (r25250) and 29-Aug-2007 15:55:07, 1.11alpha (r25289)]
[16:01:38] <CIA-15>	 * Handling of sections up to level 6 and beyond [Introduced between 29-Aug-2007 15:27:48, 1.11alpha (r25250) and 29-Aug-2007 15:55:07, 1.11alpha (r25289)]
[16:01:41] <CIA-15>	 * TOC regression (bug 9764) [Introduced between 29-Aug-2007 15:27:48, 1.11alpha (r25250) and 29-Aug-2007 15:55:07, 1.11alpha (r25289)]
[16:01:58] <Simetrical>	I always forget the parser tests.
[16:01:59] <Simetrical>	Always.
[16:10:48] <CIA-15>	03simetrical * r25292 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Parser.php): Reinstate r25260 with fix (missing trim()). No additional parser tests are broken relative to trunk.
[16:15:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change paging link labels on page histories to "newest", "newer" , "oldest" and "older" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9579  (10EN.WP.ST47)
[16:15:06] <ST47>	oof
[16:15:13] <roscoedesign>	hello, i have a quick question that maybe someone can help me answer. I am new to MW and I am having a problem with sometimes the TOC is in a table element and other times it is in a div. Anyone know why this is?
[16:16:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) New namespace for Tables and Charts on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194  +comment (10l8qjvx002)
[16:20:10] <ParserFunctioner>	How can I create an account just by pasing a username and password through a program to my mediawiki?
[16:20:27] <Simetrical>	roscoedesign, the TOC is always a table element in default MediaWiki skins (although it shouldn't be).
[16:21:36] <roscoedesign>	Alright, I understand that but when I add a link to one of the headings via == [[heading]]== then the toc above becomes a div??
[16:23:40] <paulbe__>	>	Duesentrieb: I have allways the same message on http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Special:Export/Documentation just => <mediawiki version="0.1" xml:lang="fr"></mediawiki> and not a xml page, a friend have testing this page and he have the same error of me !!! We haven't this "+" with the code ? wath can we do ???
[16:24:15] <ParserFunctioner>	is it possible through Api , or other thing to syncronize site members database for users and mediawiki users?
[16:24:55] <Simetrical>	roscoedesign, please provide a link to this occurring on your site.  What version of the software are you using?
[16:25:27] <ParserFunctioner>	creating account for the others through site and checking for them and the most import the password of them
[16:27:03] <roscoedesign>	i wish i could but right now the system is only local, how do i find out which version it is?
[16:28:43] <TimLaqua>	is there an ongoing discussion of supporting single-quoted search phrases?
[16:28:43] <Jack_Phoenix>	hey TimLaqua :)
[16:28:48] <TimLaqua>	hey Jack_Phoenix
[16:29:00] <Jack_Phoenix>	how's it going? :)
[16:29:18] <TimLaqua>	good.  My boss wanted me to make MediaWiki support single-quoted search phrases
[16:29:41] <TimLaqua>	so I hacked up SearchMySQL4.php to make it do it.  But then wondered why it haden't been done by someone else yet
[16:30:05] <TimLaqua>	figured I'd stop in and see if anyone knew
[16:30:52] <TimLaqua>	it's kinda poorly behaved and i'm concerned about efficency - I don't fully understand the FULLTEXT searching efficency
[16:31:31] <TimLaqua>	you get stuff like this: (I just double-quoted every search term)  MATCH(si_title) AGAINST('+\"ain\'t\" +\"it\'s\" +\"a\" +\"beautiful\" +\"day\" +\"indeed  it is\"' IN BOOLEAN MODE)
[16:32:20] <TimLaqua>	but even a simple search term would be doublequoted - like +\"test\"
[16:37:40] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: saying "although it shouldn't be" means it's planned to redo it using tableless code?
[16:38:19] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, planned in a general sense.  No specific plans.
[16:54:09] <mbuf>	can anyone suggest what is the problem with the images not being visible, http://free-opensource.qvantel.net ? they exist in the directories though
[16:54:57] <Jack_Phoenix>	imagemagick not configured properly?
[16:55:21] <ialexandre>	mbuf: when i want to open the file, i recieve a 403 forbidden
[16:56:53] <mbuf>	Jack_Phoenix, sorry, newbie here, where to check for imagemagick configuration?
[16:57:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	no idea :)
[16:57:48] <ialexandre>	mbuf: did you put a .htaccess file to restrict the access of some directories ?
[16:58:07] <ialexandre>	s/doirectories/folder
[16:58:53] <mbuf>	ialexandre, and where do i check for the .htaccess file?
[17:00:08] <mbuf>	i can see one in /var/www/phpMyAdmin/libraries
[17:00:17] <ialexandre>	mbuf: in mediawiki's folder
[17:01:08] <mbuf>	ialexandre, nope, i don't find any in /var/lib/mediawiki1.7 or /usr/share/mediawiki1.7
[17:01:36] <ialexandre>	http://free-opensource.qvantel.net/mediawiki/.htaccess : 403 forbidden, i think this file exists
[17:02:51] <ialexandre>	or maybe not...
[17:03:41] <mbuf>	what would prevent a /var/www/uploads not to be displayed? the directory exists
[17:06:42] <ialexandre>	mbuf: write a .htaccess file in this folder with "Allow from all"
[17:08:10] <mbuf>	ialexandre, in which folder? /var/www ?
[17:08:18] <ialexandre>	mbuf: upload
[17:08:25] <ialexandre>	+s
[17:09:05] <mbuf>	ialexandre, i get "The requested URL /uploads/ was not found on this server".
[17:09:20] <mbuf>	ialexandre, .htaccess has "Allow from all"
[17:10:03] <ialexandre>	in /var/www/upload ?
[17:10:27] <mbuf>	ialexandre, yes, in /var/www/uploads
[17:10:58] <ialexandre>	mbuf: whoops /var/www/mediawiki/upload
[17:11:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Undefined property and missing lock reason if wiki is r/o - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11114 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (raimond.spekking)
[17:13:59] <mbuf>	ialexandre, in Debian, they did their own customization, so the files are in /var/www/mediawiki and in /usr/share/mediawiki; earlier i just created a directory /var/www/uploads, and uploaded files, and was able to browse the directory
[17:14:28] <mbuf>	ialexandre, it used to work earlier, not sure what the sysadmin screwed up with
[17:17:18] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: check read-permissions on the directory. check which user-id php uses, and which apache uses.
[17:17:45] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: also, check rread-permissions on the .htaccess file, if it exists. apache must be able to read it.
[17:18:09] <mbuf>	but one can look at the history of the images, and when I click the image it says "You don't have permission to access /mediawiki/upload ..."
[17:18:40] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: the history is in the database. files are served directly by apache, bypassing mediawiki.
[17:19:31] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, urgh! the upload directory in mediawiki has 700, and owner and group is www-data
[17:22:04] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, ialexandre thanks now the images can be seen
[17:29:09] <mbuf>	does the /var/www/phpMyAdmin/libraries/.htaccess have any effect?
[17:30:23] <mbuf>	it says "This folder does not require access over HTTP (the following directive denies access by default) \n Order allow, deny"
[17:32:55] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: it should also say "deny from all". directories that do not contain "entry points" (php files that are used directly in urls to access the data) should not be accessible from the web
[17:33:24] <synic>	how can I get rid of the default links on the left navbar, like "Community Portal" and such?
[17:33:46] <mbuf>	synic, check in Special Pages?
[17:34:41] <mbuf>	synic, i remember seeing this in the mediawiki FAQ; how to edit the left Navigation panel or something related
[17:34:47] <Duesentrieb>	synic: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3ASidebar
[17:34:58] <synic>	thanks
[17:38:03] <TimLaqua>	Duesentrieb, are you familliar with the MySQL searching logic in MW?
[17:39:09] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, ok the .htaccess in Debian is in /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/mediawiki/includes, and it has Deny from all
[17:39:41] <mbuf>	what should i change it to to provide access to /var/www/foo directories?
[17:39:59] <Duesentrieb>	TimLaqua: not really, no. i'd recommend to use lucene for fancy stuff, though
[17:41:19] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: htaccess fiels always apply to the directory they reside in. so, /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/mediawiki/includes (which correctly denies access to all the files in that directory) has nothing to do with /var/www/foo
[17:41:41] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: however... which of the two is apaches document root?  /usr/local/apache2/htdocs or /var/www/ ?
[17:41:41] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, i see
[17:41:50] <Duesentrieb>	or is one a symlink to the other?
[17:42:12] <Duesentrieb>	or is apache configured to use the two for two virtual hosts (i.e. different domain names)?
[17:43:09] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, DocumentRoot "/usr/local/apache2/htdocs/" in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[17:46:54] <brion-office>	ok that was an insanely long lunch
[17:47:09] <brion-office>	we went to one place, but it was closed
[17:47:20] <brion-office>	then we went somewhere else, but it was busy and nobody had their food
[17:47:24] <brion-office>	then we went to applebee's :P
[17:48:00] <[KrusheR]>	hi
[17:48:40] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: in that case /var/www is not used by apache at all. since it's the default location for the document root on many systems, some programs may mistaningly use it. perhaps make it a symblink to the correct path
[17:48:42] <[KrusheR]>	how can I flush the cache?
[17:48:56] <[KrusheR]>	hi again duesentrieb 
[17:49:07] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: touch LocalSettings.php
[17:49:45] <[KrusheR]>	you mean, the unix command?
[17:53:25] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: yes. or edit it. basically, all cache entries older than the config file are discarded.
[17:53:33] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, goota fix dinner
[17:53:35] <Duesentrieb>	bbl
[17:53:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107  +comment (10steinninn)
[17:53:38] <[KrusheR]>	thanks again!
[17:53:42] <[KrusheR]>	bon profit
[17:54:09] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, yes, it is using /usr/local/apache2/htdocs 
[17:55:35] <Duesentrieb>	mbuf: well, you asked  about "provide access to /var/www/foo". if apache doesn't use /var/www, the answer is: "you don't".
[17:55:36] <[KrusheR]>	by the way, does anyone know when the next version is being released?
[17:56:02] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, i'll set a symlink then
[17:56:10] <Duesentrieb>	[KrusheR]: 1.11 is due "really soon now" (or has it been released now?).
[17:56:17] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107  (10raimond.spekking)
[17:56:19] <Duesentrieb>	releases are roughly querterly.
[17:56:25] <Duesentrieb>	ok, i'm off for now.
[17:56:31] <[KrusheR]>	thx
[17:56:50] <mbuf>	Duesentrieb, thanks for your help and time
[18:06:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Undefined property and missing lock reason if wiki is r/o - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11114  (10brion)
[18:11:28] <CIA-15>	03brion * r25293 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php includes/Title.php): 
[18:11:28] <CIA-15>	* (bug 11114) Fix regression in read-only mode error display during editing
[18:11:28] <CIA-15>	Regression caused by the new permissions error reporting system.
[18:11:28] <CIA-15>	For read-only case, the read-only text didn't get passed back with the message from Title::getUserPermissionsErrors().
[18:11:29] <CIA-15>	The text is either originally set in $wgReadOnly or gets loaded into it from $wgReadOnlyFile during wfReadOnly(), so pulling that it now gets passed back as expected.
[18:11:32] <CIA-15>	Other functions using $wgOut->readOnlyPage() would have still got the original, still working, behavior.
[18:11:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Undefined property and missing lock reason if wiki is r/o - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11114  +comment (10brion)
[18:32:57] <TimLaqua>	So, is making * a legal search character a bad idea?
[18:35:49] <flyingparchment>	what do you want it to do?
[18:41:41] <Quakeile>	if wgEnableUploads is set to true (and no blacklist is specified) is it possible to upload .php/.html files?
[18:42:17] <Platonides>	there's a blacklist by default
[18:42:19] <Quakeile>	or should the upload always be used in conjunction with the wgFileBlacklist?
[18:42:32] <TimLaqua>	flyingparchment, well, you can suffix a fulltext search term with an asterisk to do a wildcard search
[18:45:38] <amidaniel>	Quakeile: You have to specify which file types you want to allow
[18:46:06] <Quakeile>	ok, thanks
[18:46:44] <TimLaqua>	flyingparchment, I also changed the code so it interprets single quoted phrases - I was looking for feedback
[19:17:49] <garyclark>	Hi. I'm having some problems installing media wiki
[19:18:13] <garyclark>	I've gone through the process of installation but at the last stage it says: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/dartfordfouk/public_html/wiki2/includes/User.php on line 1891
[19:19:43] <brion-office>	garyclark: sounds like the file didn't upload completely
[19:21:15] <dfgsdgdd>	how can I evaluate if a part of a string is inside another? (like #ifeq, but I want it to catch only part of the string)
[19:21:39] <garyclark2>	sorry got disconnected - were there any answers?
[19:22:00] <mutante>	21:15 <brion-office> garyclark: sounds like the file didn't upload completely
[19:22:14] <garyclark2>	right, okay
[19:22:25] <garyclark2>	so i'll try to reinstall that file
[19:22:26] <garyclark2>	thx
[19:22:48] <brion-office>	dfgsdgdd: there may or may not be something in stringfunctions extension
[19:22:50] <mutante>	no shell access?
[19:22:50] <brion-office>	haven't looked :)
[19:23:23] <dfgsdgdd>	any workaround? no access to it for the moment.. I only have the basic parserfunctions
[19:24:06] <garyclark2>	Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in /home/dartfordfouk/public_html/wiki2/includes/User.php on line 825
[19:24:52] <dfgsdgdd>	basically I want to determine if a certain string is a category and fix it's talk page link
[19:25:28] <mutante>	garyclark2: how does that line 825 look?
[19:26:09] <garyclark2>	$defOpt = $wgDefaultUserOptions + $wgContLang->getDefaultUserOptionOverrides();
[19:26:29] <mutante>	confired, same on mine .uhm
[19:26:53] <mutante>	which version of mediawiki and which version of PHP
[19:27:10] <mutante>	could this be due to PHP4 with a latest mediawiki
[19:27:12] <garyclark2>	1.10.1 and PHP5
[19:27:16] <mutante>	hmmmm
[19:27:37] <garyclark2>	only recently, my host have gone to PHP5, but before then when I tried it didn't used to get this far
[19:27:43] <mutante>	unsupprted operand + ??
[19:27:51] <mutante>	i dont get it either :p
[19:28:29] <garyclark2>	I'm not really very good with things like this - can normally get most things installed but don't understand the code or the files really
[19:30:21] <mutante>	garyclark2: you are not the only one to get those errors,, step 1
[19:31:46] <garyclark2>	k
[19:33:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update Documentation in hooks.txt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11102  (10seventowers)
[19:33:09] <mutante>	uhm, all i can find so far is on  http://www.php.net/mysql_fetch_object  something like this line above   $money = $p->dollars + $p->cents;  "You may experience "Unsupported operand types" so always cast them both as (int) 's!!"...
[19:34:32] <garyclark2>	that's like swahili to me - sorry
[19:38:03] <mutante>	garyclark2: im not a developer either, maybe add this to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[19:40:05] <garyclark>	even my connection has turned against me :(
[19:41:13] <MartinCleaver>	anyone built single sign on for facebook yet?
[19:43:34] <MinuteElectron>	How owuld you do that?
[19:44:39] <MartinCleaver>	I want to make it so when people come to a mediawiki and they are already logged into facebook it uses their facebook account as credentials
[19:44:51] <MartinCleaver>	build a facebook app
[19:45:10] <MinuteElectron>	i see.
[19:45:31] <feltipen>	would be cooler if they could create and edit pages directly from facebook
[19:45:46] <MartinCleaver>	why bother the user to provide all that info when it can be read out of their profile
[19:47:03] <MartinCleaver>	I'd like it for the http://www.wikiconsulting.com wiki
[19:50:23] <MinuteElectron>	Hahaha, this guy came into #freenode and I thought he was talking about MediaWiki.
[19:50:27] <MinuteElectron>	How embarassing.
[19:58:38] <CIA-15>	03rainman * r25294 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
[19:58:38] <CIA-15>	More minor did you mean tweeks:
[19:58:38] <CIA-15>	* if edit dist is same, prefer those suggestions that have same letters
[19:58:38] <CIA-15>	* use good redirects from alttitle as valid spellcheck titles
[20:02:31] <aton`>	hm when i change Mediawiki:sidebar, it doesnt seem to have any effect :/
[20:05:08] <Screwtape>	Good morning
[20:08:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103  (10brion)
[20:08:50] <Screwtape>	Is there anybody here who can help me out with something
[20:10:36] <brion-office>	depends what it is, Screwtape
[20:10:55] <Screwtape>	I have a mediawiki setup, an in-house one
[20:11:20] <Screwtape>	It has some pages, say [[Foo]], [[Foo/Bar]], [[Foo/Baz]] and [[Foo/Quux]]
[20:11:43] <Screwtape>	Is there some way, without access to the underlying files, for me to find all the nodes that begin with "Foo"
[20:11:55] <Jack_Phoenix>	Special:Prefixindex/Foo
[20:11:57] <Screwtape>	Given that some of them might not actually be linked from anywhere else
[20:12:03] <Screwtape>	You are the man
[20:12:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103  (10robchur)
[20:12:50] <Screwtape>	Hm
[20:13:01] <Screwtape>	"Prefixindex" isn't in the list at Special:Specialpages
[20:13:33] <Screwtape>	Is that optional, or maybe a new feature?
[20:13:44] <Jack_Phoenix>	neither
[20:14:12] <Jack_Phoenix>	"Prefix index" is its title on Special:Specialpages @ MediaWiki 1.10
[20:14:35] <Screwtape>	It for sure isn't here
[20:15:07] <Jack_Phoenix>	o_O
[20:15:09] <Jack_Phoenix>	odd...
[20:16:34] <Screwtape>	This seems to be 1.5.5
[20:17:25] <Screwtape>	Whomever set this up may have removed it, I guess.  Special:Allpages I think might let me get what I want though
[20:17:54] <Jack_Phoenix>	MediaWiki 1.5.5? ugh
[20:17:57] <Jack_Phoenix>	the horror...
[20:17:59] <Jack_Phoenix>	Upgrade.
[20:18:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103  (10brion)
[20:18:26] <Screwtape>	Not my decision to make, but I'll let that guy know
[20:22:50] <Screwtape>	Thanks for your help
[20:27:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special handling for Tables and Charts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194  normal->lowest; -shell ; summary; +comment (10jeluf)
[20:27:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103  (10robchur)
[20:32:43] <apokryphos>	what's the best way to make a clickable image in mediawiki?
[20:32:52] <apokryphos>	s/clickable/linkable/
[20:34:09] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[20:34:57] <Duesentrieb>	for hackish alternatives, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[20:35:03] <apokryphos>	Duesentrieb: yeah, but isn't there a way to do it without specifying coordinates?
[20:35:06] <Duesentrieb>	err, sorry: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Navigational_images
[20:35:26] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: not really, no. even with the hacks, you have to know/specify the image size.
[20:35:46] <_thom_>	Hello. I'd like to create a database of IP addresses in my organization, and am thinking about writing an extension for this. I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I'm wondering if anyone knows of existing extensions that I might piggyback from.
[20:36:17] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: mediawiki doesn't support this really. this is an intentional design decision: images are editable wiki content. there has to be a way for people the get to the "image page" to replace or discuss the image, see license info, etc
[20:36:45] <apokryphos>	aha, could redirect the image page
[20:36:53] <apokryphos>	hrm, but then you can't link to an external location :/
[20:37:41] <apokryphos>	[http://www.google.com http://www.google.com/images/logo.gif] really doesn't work for me :/
[20:37:44] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: maybe something like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DataTable
[20:38:26] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: right, it doesn't. do you need this just for a couple of images with the respective links, or do you need people to be able to freely mix & match?
[20:38:44] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: for the former, you can use HTMLets (wrapped in a templated if you like)
[20:38:48] <apokryphos>	Duesentrieb: only for two images
[20:38:53] <Duesentrieb>	use HTMLets
[20:39:08] <_thom_>	dusentrieb: thank you for the link. I'm actually thinking that the extension might just generate the whole table, since it should always present in the same, uniform, fashion
[20:39:10] <Duesentrieb>	it's a simple way to include static html code into wiki pages
[20:39:13] <Duesentrieb>	simple & safe,.
[20:39:17] <apokryphos>	cool
[20:39:26] *apokryphos 	checks google
[20:40:20] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: i dunno, there are > 500 extensions listed here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix
[20:40:23] <apokryphos>	Duesentrieb: but this is an extra extension that they'd have to add?
[20:40:41] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: several do some type or other of put-stuff-into-db-table logic
[20:40:50] <Duesentrieb>	apokryphos: yes, an extension.
[20:41:38] <_thom_>	okay. well, for example, some 'known data types' would be things like machine name, MAC address, IP address, and maybe a status
[20:42:10] <_thom_>	I'd like to somehow reinforce that those data types meet certain validation before they could be entered, possibly using a custom form
[20:42:42] <_thom_>	I'm also thinking about ranges of IP addresses (eg dhcp blocks) as being a possibility
[20:42:54] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: the main issue is integration into wikitext, and interaction with mediawiki page versioning. forms for entering data might also exist, i don't know.
[20:43:53] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: basically, the idea points towards "wikidata", which has now merged with the omegawiki fork. it's extremely complex now. but there are probably simple solutions around. 
[20:44:09] <_thom_>	well, if the entire IP table ended up as one big block of wikitext, I worry that I wouldn't be able to refer to objects like individual servers.
[20:44:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New logo for Wikiheimild - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11107  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:44:49] <_thom_>	one goal was to be able to somehow refer to a machine by its hostname in a wiki entry about that machine and somehow get back its current IP address
[20:46:40] <Duesentrieb>	_thom_: that's called "DNS".
[20:48:29] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Request to change namespaces on fy.wiktionary.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6331  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:48:31] <_thom_>	dusentrieb: another goal of an ip database would be an ability to (at least) generate dns records automatically.
[20:49:35] <Duesentrieb>	that sounds like you want to have functionality completely unrelated to wiki stuff, or even websites. if you have a db of IPs, it should be simple enough to show info from that inside the wiki.
[20:49:45] <Duesentrieb>	maintaining that table from the wiki would become tricky. 
[20:50:11] <Duesentrieb>	using the wiki as a frontend to complexs functionality implemented on top of that database might be possible, but seems misguided.
[20:50:16] <_thom_>	okay, that's where I was leaning. so if I did some sort of RESTful development...
[20:50:45] <_thom_>	then I should focus any wiki related development on making custom tags to let my users specify a hostname and pull its info from out of the db, etc?
[20:51:02] <Duesentrieb>	pulling the info REST-ish would be one way. another would be to have an extension that simply pulls info from the db, according to parameters provided in the wiki text.
[20:51:42] <Duesentrieb>	the REST based aproach is more abstract, the db based one more direct.
[20:51:46] <Duesentrieb>	use whatever suits you best
[20:52:12] <_thom_>	right. I guess that comes down to whether I develop the IP database side-by-side on the same machine as the wiki, and whether I care about being portable.
[20:52:35] <_thom_>	anyway, thanks for confirming this as a course of action, it does make more sense to have it be a separate entity.
[20:52:42] <Duesentrieb>	portable, yes. "pulling from the database" doesn't require it to be on the same box though
[20:53:18] <_thom_>	but it does require that the extension have a higher level of access to the database, and more direct. also probably that it be written in php
[20:53:33] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[20:53:46] <Duesentrieb>	well, the extension has to be written in php anyway. the question is how much locig it should contain.
[20:53:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) internal link with parameters but without nofollow - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8410  (10jidanni)
[20:54:09] <TimLaqua>	$wgSearchType is pretty much the coolest thing i've seen all week.
[20:54:09] <Duesentrieb>	if all it does is stuffing a parameter into a url, fetching the conten, and outputting it... well, that should be simple enough :)
[20:54:26] <_thom_>	right! the goal is to be as lazy but as useful as possible. write the logic once if possible... but cleanly, and not duplicated
[20:55:57] <brion-office>	TimLaqua: thx :)
[20:56:08] <brion-office>	doing something fun with it?
[20:57:16] <Jack_Phoenix>	brion-office: if I may ask...why was Special:SiteSettings feature ditched? It seemed very cool, too bad it was never finished... :(
[20:57:20] <TimLaqua>	well, I hacked up SearchMySQL4.php to make single-quoted phrases search properly and added * to the legal search characters - then I started poking around and figured out that I could just extend the SearchMySQL4 in my extension
[20:57:41] <TimLaqua>	so... not too amazing, but really cool how it allows that sort of customization.
[20:57:57] <brion-office>	Jack_Phoenix: what special:sitesettings feature?
[20:58:02] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r25295 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: *Make colon use consistent
[20:58:12] <Jack_Phoenix>	brion-office: back in 1.4 and 1.5 :P
[20:58:23] <brion-office>	i doubt it ever worked right
[20:58:29] <Jack_Phoenix>	yeah, seems so
[20:58:30] <brion-office>	and rewriting LocalSettings.php would scare the shit out of me :D
[20:58:36] <Jack_Phoenix>	hehe :P
[20:58:48] <brion-office>	TimLaqua: yummy :)
[20:58:58] <Jack_Phoenix>	but the idea wasn't crappy at all...perhaps how it was done is, but meh... ;)
[20:59:09] <brion-office>	which reminds me, i think we wanna patch up searchmysql4 so phrase and wildcard searches work by default
[20:59:17] <VoiceOfAll>	sitesettings?
[20:59:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	VoiceOfAll: back in MediaWiki 1.4 and 1.5, heh
[20:59:37] <TimLaqua>	I was thinking (w/ regard to the site settings thing) that an extension could override the set variables set in LocalSettings.php (and maybe store over-ride settigns in an XML file or the DB)
[21:00:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	cool :D
[21:00:08] *Jack_Phoenix 	likes the idea :)
[21:00:18] <TimLaqua>	brion-office, for the phrase searching, are you going to allow double quotes through for the phrase delimiters, or use single quotes?
[21:00:58] <brion-office>	what's wrong w/ double quotes
[21:01:05] <TimLaqua>	filtered by defaults
[21:01:09] <TimLaqua>	*default
[21:01:20] <brion-office>	:P :)
[21:01:39] <VoiceOfAll>	brion-office: I got a page called 'Sam Donaldson'
[21:01:43] <VoiceOfAll>	searching for 'Sam D'
[21:01:52] <VoiceOfAll>	 No page title matches
[21:01:53] <VoiceOfAll>	No page text matches
[21:01:56] <VoiceOfAll>	;)
[21:02:40] <TimLaqua>	lol, my boss wanted substring matches - so I changed it to do a LIKE '%term%' as well - That caught enough noise where he backed off.  ;-)
[21:03:07] <brion-office>	VoiceOfAll: yes, phrase matching is a bit odd in mysql
[21:03:24] <brion-office>	as far as i can tell is does something like a match on all the words, then a filter for the substring
[21:03:31] <VoiceOfAll>	'Sam' returns nothing too
[21:03:48] <TimLaqua>	isn't Sam just below the indexing threshold?
[21:03:53] <VoiceOfAll>	Donaldson works
[21:04:02] <Duesentrieb>	VoiceOfAll: threee letter limit
[21:04:58] <brion-office>	whee
[21:05:07] <brion-office>	i got multiple monitors working in vmware fullscreen mode :D
[21:05:10] *VoiceOfAll 	prettifies Extension:FlaggedRevs
[21:05:21] <brion-office>	if i _wanted_ two monitors full of windows
[21:06:28] <TimLaqua>	brion-office, http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72925 - those are my changes to SearchMySQL4.php to do single-quoted phrases and wildcards (suffix only per FULLTEXT rules)
[21:07:01] <TimLaqua>	I always wondered why the searching didn't support phrases and wildcards
[21:07:29] <brion-office>	i think i forgot about it :P :)
[21:08:13] <TimLaqua>	I didn't tackle the parenthetical expressions yet.  ;-)
[21:39:14] <CIA-15>	03brion * r25296 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthUser.php: Forbid blocked accounts from winning the automatic home-wiki selection
[21:40:32] <VoiceOfAll>	brion-office: nice call :p
[21:41:00] <brion-office>	:D
[21:46:38] <ST47>	:D
[21:46:41] <ST47>	Indeed.
[21:47:05] *ST47 	goes to organize a mass-blocking of jimbo on implementation day
[21:59:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Blocked IP can't edit its own talk page in yaseo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4538  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[22:02:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Blocked IP can't edit its own talk page in yaseo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4538  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:03:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Blocked IP can't edit its own talk page in yaseo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4538  (10cbrown1023)
[22:05:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) On-page "What Redirects Here" for admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11083  (10kovo1)
[22:08:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add "nofollow" to links to Special: Random on navigation panel and search engines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8411  (10jidanni)
[22:17:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Adding the sha1 to the imageinfo query - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11115 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Bryan.TongMinh)
[22:19:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Adding the sha1 to the imageinfo query - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11115  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[22:50:19] <CIA-15>	03suuch * r25297 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiInstantCommons.php: Adding InstantCommons api into trunk
[22:57:53] <CIA-15>	03suuch * r25298 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (AutoLoader.php api/ApiMain.php): Adding InstantCommons includes into ApiMain and AutoLoader's API section
[23:00:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special handling for Tables and Charts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194  +comment (10ingoolemo)
[23:07:14] <tobias>	I'd like to add a button to mediawiki somewhere that take's the current page's /wikitext/, runs some processing on it, and spits something back (kind of like the print button).  is there an extension framework in place for doing this?
[23:07:31] <tobias>	non-html output, mind you
[23:08:26] <tobias>	the alternative would be to write an external script that tried to grab the wikitext of the HTTP_REFERER, run the processing on it, and return the output
[23:10:08] <tobias>	but getting that wiki text could be a pain, depending on the access permissions of the wiki in question
[23:10:19] <tobias>	"the right way" seems to be integration with mediawiki
[23:10:26] <tobias>	thoughts?
[23:12:50] <tobias>	... or am i asking in the wrong channel?
[23:20:51] <jimbojw>	it's the right channel - but it's a bad time of day
[23:21:50] <Duesentrieb>	tobias: getting the wiki text is simple enough: use the action=raw URL parameter
[23:21:54] <jimbojw>	what you probably want to do is add an action by hooking into the SkinTemplateContentActions hook (or similar - I may have misspelled it) and have your new action point to either a new SpecialPage, or implement a new action to hook into the UnknownActions hook
[23:22:12] <jimbojw>	or at least, that's what I'd do ( I think) :)
[23:22:13] <Duesentrieb>	or that :)
[23:22:20] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, going to bed.
[23:22:21] <Duesentrieb>	have fun
[23:22:27] <jimbojw>	g'nite Duesentrieb 
[23:22:35] <jimbojw>	see ya tobias - good luck!
[23:22:54] *Duesentrieb 	waves to jimbojw 
[23:24:20] <VoiceOfAll>	http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ATMOVIETrek.HTM
[23:24:37] <VoiceOfAll>	TimStarling: "The Genesis Device gets triggered, the planet gets instantly terraformed, life starts evolving even faster than in my refrigerator, and - get ready for a surprise - of all the planets in the Galaxy, this just happens to be the one where Spock's coffin landed. The coffin is moving fast enough to cover interplanetary, maybe interstellar distances in only a few months, hits a...
[23:24:38] <tobias>	Duesentrieb: ah, that's good to know.  now i just need to figure out authentication...
[23:24:38] <VoiceOfAll>	...planet, and doesn't make a crater. It's lying flat on the surface. Paint isn't even scuffed."