[00:28:37] I'm so glad that in open-source projects, we can tell self-important asses like this to go screw themselves. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241241 [00:28:41] But politely, of course. [00:43:51] Simetrical: Yep [00:48:01] Hi [00:48:10] Do you know how to make and save article edit from code? [00:49:01] aaa [00:49:04] there is quickEdit [00:49:05] cool [00:58:18] I have a local install of mediawiki and notices the and tag dont work on it like they do on wikipedia. Any idea why this is or how i can get it to mimic wikipedia? [00:58:48] tty1, see Special:Version on Wikipedia for a list of extensions installed there. This particular one is called Cite. [00:59:03] Simetrical: thank you very much [01:32:18] 03brion * r25299 10/trunk/wap/ (hawpedia.php settings.php): [01:32:19] Validate language input, for goodness' sake. :P [01:32:19] http://www.0x000000.com/index.php?i=405 [01:43:16] 03kim * r25300 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: [01:43:16] Copy functionality now does syntrans too [01:43:16] (This code was kindly submitted by Alan Smithee O:-) ) [01:45:40] 03kim * r25301 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: minor license issue (GPL v. 2 still supported) [02:00:30] i need a bit of help with stubmanager [02:11:37] thanks to everyone who helped. http://en.consumeria.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page is starting to look like it's going places [02:12:15] is there a mediawiki frappr extension? [02:14:02] kunsole, that site looks promising, I am trying to start a very similar wiki [02:16:49] can you see the file links to an image file after it's been deleted or do you need to restore it first [02:17:18] argh nm [02:18:30] amazingdave: it's been tried already http://wikicompany.com (or is that org. nevermind it redirect) is doing a business directory [02:18:53] and there was http//corpknowpedia.org :) [02:19:11] *kunsole used to contribute to corpknowpedia ;) [02:24:35] 03(NEW) Button to remove red links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11116 15enhancement; low; MediaWiki: Images; (yonatanh) [02:54:07] hey, im trying to copy over a template from wikipedia to my own wiki (the {{refbegin}} templatE)... the templat eis pretty simple, just a begining
tag with no closing tag (the closing tag is in a complimentary template).. however for some reason mediawiki seems to add the ending
tag itself when it renders the template... am i doing something wrong? [02:56:22] tty1, it's a bug of sorts. Set $wgUseTidy = true; in LocalSettings.php. [02:57:19] Simetrical: did you mean false? [02:57:45] No. [02:57:50] It's false by default. [02:58:12] Simetrical: thank ya [02:58:24] For some odd reason, MediaWiki behaves differently if Tidy is off in this respect, presumably feeling it needs to compensate for Tidy's absence. [02:58:45] Simetrical: i love when programs start thinking for themselves :) [03:02:19] if I want to run a bot on meta, where do I go :( [03:02:28] oops, wrong IRC channel, sorry [03:10:29] We are having a problem with url rewriting. It used to work but changes to the mediawiki code have broken it. we use http://wiki.domain.com/Main_Page and that still works but editing is broke because it now considers index.php a page (even though it is excluded in the rewrite rules) [03:10:37] any advice? [03:17:27] It's very much not advised to rewrite to a directory that actually exists. [03:17:56] I'm not enough of a rewrite guru to help you, I suspect. [03:18:52] hmm [03:19:16] ok, in php regex, \b is a word boundry, right? [03:19:48] 'cause i'm only getting word boundary matches on \B - which should be the negative of \b [03:20:04] Check the docs. [03:20:26] http://us2.php.net/pcre.pattern.syntax [03:20:36] (see, that's not a good way to rewrite) [03:21:04] what isn't? [03:21:31] oh, prev. convo. gotcha. [03:25:25] yes... it helps if you put the boundary INSIDE the double quotes. ;-) thx. [03:25:54] which always matches - how useful. ;-) [03:27:40] how the heck to you get people interested in contributing to a wiki? [03:27:55] I get a decent amount of hits, but no one ever edits [03:31:18] 03(mod) Configure Nagios to report to toolserver IRC for toolserver outages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10998 +comment (10danny_b) [03:41:15] 03(mod) Special handling for Tables and Charts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 (10l8qjvx002) [03:47:45] 03(NEW) Automatically add header templates to certain articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11117 15enhancement; high; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (mets501wiki) [03:50:38] 03(mod) Special handling for Tables and Charts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 (10ingoolemo) [03:51:17] 03(mod) Automatically add header templates to certain articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11117 high->normal (10robchur) [04:03:17] 03(mod) Special handling for Tables and Charts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 (10l8qjvx002) [04:15:38] hey [04:15:49] is there a way to run media wiki without php 5? [04:17:06] anyone? [04:22:34] hello? [04:22:37] someone?? [04:26:42] can someone please just answer me [04:26:47] I know someone is reading this [04:32:33] 03(FIXED) Rename namespaces on ko Wikitionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9722 +comment (10jeluf) [05:14:53] hi, im trying to install the following extention: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions but when i do i get the following errors (when i try to go to my wiki): http://pastebin.com/m1532da27... any help would be greatly appreciated [05:20:09] ill be sitting here hoping for an answer incase everyone comes around (ill be here all night). [05:53:11] i need dev advice on MessagesEn.php, could anyone help? [06:00:49] Vizio: what do you want to know? [06:04:13] about $magicWords, what's CASE for? [06:05:14] oih, very good question [06:05:46] dunno :-( [06:06:03] v_v [06:07:09] well guess i have to kiv them for a while [06:16:24] <_wooz> lo [06:26:28] Is there a way to center an item in a wiki? [06:26:33] Like to center text or an image [06:27:28] jbinder: what kind of item? [06:27:38] It's an image [06:27:39] a PNG [06:27:55] I have [[Image:Cfsg.png]] [06:28:04] But it's on the left and looks bad [06:28:19] [[Image:dsd.png|center]] [06:28:49] Raymond_: Yess! It worked. [06:28:52] (You're God) [06:28:58] :) [06:28:59] Lol. [06:29:00] Thanks. [06:29:13] *jbinder tried to look on Google :\ [06:46:29] Hello [06:46:51] 03(NEW) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (bugzilla) [06:46:57] I have an install question if anyone is here to help me, it would be greatly appreciated [06:51:35] openartist: please ask you question, do not ask to ask :) [06:51:49] oh okay, thanks [06:52:40] basically I installed mediawiki and then because of an error wiped the database to reinstall it [06:53:27] I reuploaded the entire wiki but when I go to install it it tells me to transfer the localsettings.php doc to the root folder to complete [06:53:39] and it won't let me reinstall [06:53:45] so I'm kinda stuck [06:54:04] Is there a specific perhaps I overlooked? [06:54:09] *file [06:54:18] *setting [06:54:19] etc [06:55:32] hm, how do you have content that users can only see when logged in? [06:59:45] openartist: delete the localSettings.php from root. Than install again. should work [07:00:23] hello Raymond_ and the other ;-) [07:00:40] what's funny is that I did delete it [07:01:04] but I guess something perhaps didn't overwrite when I reinstalled [07:03:09] 03david * r25302 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtModel.php LqtPages.php): [07:03:09] History... works? Can it be? Factored display of old revisions into a new [07:03:09] subclass of ThreadPermalinkView instead of being embedded into the base view. [07:03:09] Moved constructor-type code into a constructer to make ThreadPermalinkView [07:03:09] easier to subclass. [07:07:46] Hello. I want to know how to make music scores in wikiarticles? [07:10:15] 03david * r25303 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (36 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) [07:10:15] Merged revisions 25215-25302 via svnmerge from [07:10:15] svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [07:10:15] ........ [07:10:15] r25218 | aaron | 2007-08-27 16:16:52 -0700 (Mon, 27 Aug 2007) | 1 line [07:10:16] *err...make this consistent with rc_deleted patch file [07:10:18] ........ [07:10:59] if i'm not admin from a mediawiki can i use this => Special:Export/Documentation ? [07:11:26] Yes. [07:12:20] Does anyone know how can i make music scores in wikiversity articles? I tried the wikisophia's way but it didn't work [07:12:38] !extensions | JOHANN [07:12:38] JOHANN : MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions, this is usually a simple process, to find a list of them visit http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions [07:13:32] thx...i'm visiting it [07:14:08] MinuteElectron: i try from tomorrow with a lot of frend this => http://www.claroline.net/doc/fr/index.php/Special:Export/Documentation and we have just this Ce fichier XML ne semble pas avoir d'information de style lui étant associé. L'arbre du document est montré ci-dessous. and never the "+" with information, I doens't... [07:14:10] ...understand ? the fault wath I make ? [07:14:48] MinuteElectron: have you the "+" ? [07:16:23] hmmm...I'm not an expert in this. Do i have to install mediawiki in my pc to create music scores in wikiversity's articles?? If so, why i don't need to install a single thing to create scores in wikisophia.org?? [07:16:55] JOHANN: You have to ask a sysadmin. [07:17:03] File a report for the extension on bugzilla. [07:17:14] But get community consensus first. [07:18:40] hmmm, i tried wiritng some requests for including lilypond software in mediawiki...but i didn't receive any answer [07:19:36] 14(WFM) checkLanguage.php does not find unexisting messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:19:55] JOHANN: Well that attitude doesn't work here, no bug report, no extension installed. [07:22:53] Oh sorry. It's my first time using a IRC. I just want to make a music course, and i'm trying to look for some answers to make it. I appreciate a lot if you tell me how can i report that bug or anything in order to make developers include a music notation software. Remember that i'm not an expert in this, please [07:24:04] And try to understand that i'm trying to do my best speaking english, because i don't speak it well and no IRC channel in spanish exists [07:24:32] (related to mediawiki) [07:25:02] Ok, they probably don't need to create a music score extension - just install it. [07:25:32] If you include a link to the extension then it will speed up the bug being fixed. [07:25:33] Bugzilla is for both software bugs and Wikimedia site requests. [07:26:11] ok, how can i do that? [07:27:20] JOHANN: Go to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ and follow the instructions. [07:28:25] ok thank you...i'm on my waydown [07:29:05] 03david * r25304 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtPages.php): [07:29:05] And now even diffs work. However, the editing links from the diff screen do not [07:29:05] work. Possible solution to making more things work: Thread:Blah&action=edit to [07:29:05] edit the root-level post Thread:Blah, and make lqt_method=edit be an optional or [07:29:05] special feature for editing or appending replies. [07:33:28] That page doesn't open electron [07:34:00] http://bugs.wikipedia.org/ then [07:34:07] thx [07:34:36] i will try to install bugzilla from my firefox menu! [07:34:43] Don't. [07:34:47] It isn't worth it [07:36:10] ok [07:37:20] hi there! [07:39:19] I set up a wiki in my company. I can't figure out how to use [[Image:...]] - it just doesn't show the image inline. It only creates a link to the page where I can see the version history of that image and so on. Any hints? [07:39:44] have you enabled uploads? [07:40:01] MinuteElectron: yes. and I can access the image from that file page [07:40:13] Ok/ [07:40:56] MinuteElectron: it's definitely there and accessible. With [[Media:...|caption]] I also get a nice link named 'caption', and when i click it, the plain image gets shown in my browser [07:41:18] MinuteElectron: but somehow the inline showing of images doesn't seem to work [07:41:41] I don't know. [07:41:56] i need to create an special bugzilla account or i can use my mediawiki account? [07:42:07] do i need [07:42:19] JOHANN: you need an own bugzilla account [07:42:25] thank you [08:01:10] ok, i created an account on bugzilla...what comes next, electron? [08:05:54] hello?? [08:09:22] JOHANN: press 'enter new bug' [08:09:35] ok thank you [08:09:54] i was reading "how to report a bug" instead [08:09:59] thank you very much [08:10:14] ok [08:10:50] do i need to know anything else to make them know that we need a music editing extension?? [08:12:10] no [08:32:42] 03raymond * r25305 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [08:32:42] * Removed unused message [08:32:42] * Updates German [08:43:36] 03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 +comment (10relatividadgeneral) [08:51:49] I set up a wiki in my company. I can't figure out how to use [[Image:...]] - it just doesn't show the image inline. It only creates a link to the page where I can see the version history of that image and so on. Any hints? [08:58:45] 03raymond * r25306 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Updates German [09:08:22] 03(NEW) {{grammar}} broken in noarticletext(anon) when ui lang != content lang - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11119 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (niklas.laxstrom) [09:13:41] 03(mod) Improve inline data editing with textual dialects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9536 normal->highest; +comment (10relatividadgeneral) [10:08:51] 03raymond * r25307 10/trunk/extensions/DeletedContributions/DeletedContributions_body.php: [10:08:51] Add a link to normal (undeleted) contributions to the subtitle. [10:08:51] Should be now consistent to the subtitle of Special:Contributions. [10:42:11] 03(NEW) Localisation for CentralAuth, DismissableSiteNotice, Duplicator, ContactPage, InputBox, Newuserlog, ParserFunctions, Translate and UsernameBlacklist extensions (zho series,yue) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11120 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (shinjiman) [10:42:18] 03(mod) Localisation for CentralAuth, DismissableSiteNotice, Duplicator , InputBox, Newuserlog, ParserFunctions, Translate and UsernameBlacklist extensions (zho series,yue) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11120 summary (10shinjiman) [10:42:52] 03(mod) Localisation for CentralAuth, DismissableSiteNotice, Duplicator , InputBox, Newuserlog, ParserFunctions, Translate and UsernameBlacklist extensions (zho series,yue,och/ltc) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11120 summary (10shinjiman) [10:48:57] Hi all [10:49:39] hi elfuego... [10:55:28] 03raymond * r25308 10/trunk/extensions/ (69 files in 56 dirs): [10:55:28] * (bug 11120) Update Chinese extension translations [10:55:28] Patches by Shinjiman [10:56:00] 03(FIXED) Localisation for CentralAuth, DismissableSiteNotice, Duplicator , InputBox, Newuserlog, ParserFunctions, Translate and UsernameBlacklist extensions (zho series,yue,och/ltc) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11120 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:56:01] 03(mod) Edit sections sometimes disappear - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11110 (10salmira) [10:56:37] where are the database access docs? [10:56:52] because http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access sais at certain points see docs [11:01:30] Https is used to control access to my mediawiki site. Is there is a way to make mediawiki use the username and password of the https, without the need to log in a second time on the site? I already read the FAQ, removed the log in / create account link, took a look on the "Mediawiki administrators tutorial" book and tried to modify the PHP code to my will, but to no awail. When editing an article only IP address is beign remebere [11:01:30] like to change. I would be very grateful for assistance! Thanks! [11:02:34] 03ilabarg1 * r25309 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: [ApiEditPage.php]-Class to handle edit action since API (only POST request allowed). [11:02:49] https -- yes, but it's a pain [11:03:25] there's an extension to do this [11:17:46] 03abernala * r25310 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiUploadFile.php: Upload selected image to created path and insert image to database. [11:18:30] @x99 thanks! Found it. [11:28:44] elfuego: uh, https doesn't deal with user authentification, afaik. that would be done by http-auth. and there's an extension for using http-auth with mediawiki... should be pretty painless, i think. [11:29:44] 03ilabarg1 * r25311 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/EditPage.php: [EditPage.php]-atemptSave handle with constant values defined at the begining of the class, and evaluated in processAttemptSave. And many prints to fast debug. [11:29:51] https can do certificate-based authentication [11:30:08] i'm not sure if anyone wrote an authplugin to use it, it probably wouldn't be hard [11:30:18] flyingparchment: really? i have never seen that in the wild... [11:30:36] i haven't either, but i understand some people us it. mostly on private sites, it's difficult for users to configure [11:30:40] (compared to typing in a password) [11:31:44] he might mean normal http auth over ssl tho [11:31:52] wp sais "The system can also be used for client authentication, in order to restrict access to a Web server to only authorized users. For this, typically the site administrator creates certificates for each user which are loaded into their browser." [11:32:07] so i guess this would mainly be used for external access to corporate intranets, etc [11:32:10] yes [11:32:37] procrastinatin on irc is a great way to learn stuff :) [11:37:35] it's mostly a windows thing, hmm? [11:37:44] why would it be a windows thing? [11:37:56] *NotAMused remembers seeing it mostly on windows systems [11:37:59] *NotAMused shrugs and hides. [11:38:08] that's probably because most intranets run windows [11:38:40] mmmm [11:39:52] 03ilabarg1 * r25312 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/AutoLoader.php: [AutoLoader.php]-New API classes included. [11:42:33] how does the slectrow function work? [11:42:40] I cant find any documentation [11:42:49] selectrow [11:45:00] 03ilabarg1 * r25313 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiMain.php: [ApiMain.php]-Reguser,upload and edit modules added. [11:46:39] 03(NEW) spam filter reports first url matching blacklist, even if whitelisted - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11121 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; (paolo) [12:10:36] 03mark * r25314 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-nis-client/debian/ (changelog files postinst preinst): [12:10:36] wikimedia-nis-client (1.2) feisty; urgency=low [12:10:36] * Since most of the package hardcodes values anyway, let's skip the debconf [12:10:36] questions (set seen flag) [12:11:27] nis-client? [12:11:50] mark: ? [12:12:35] yes? [12:13:56] 03abernala * r25315 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/SpecialUpload.php: [SpecialUpload.php] processUpload handle with defined constants values, and evaluated in processRest. [12:14:20] mark: what's nis-client? [12:14:40] google for it? [12:15:52] nis-client is a client for nis [12:16:21] network information system? [12:16:28] yes [12:16:32] aka yp (yellow pages) [12:16:55] i see [12:25:17] hello [12:25:28] how to delete my own account in mediawiki? [12:26:21] you don't [12:27:07] so i have to delete my user from the database manually? [12:32:29] well, for all intents and purposes, changing your password to a random string of characters works pretty well [12:33:14] knox: deleting user accounts breaks referential integrity of the database. user records are referenced from page histories, logs, etc [12:33:33] wikis records the history of things. user accounts are part of that. [12:33:57] hi Bdka [12:34:01] Duesentrieb: i understand... [12:34:16] hoi Duesentrieb :-) [12:34:19] i guess if i just dont use the account any longer and put a random fake email will do the job [12:34:23] thanks for your answers [12:34:27] great software :-) [12:36:08] hey Bdka :) [12:36:11] *Jack_Phoenix waves [12:36:37] hello Jack_Phoenix [12:36:43] :) [12:53:58] 03jvelezv * r25316 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/ (SpecialUserlogin.php api/ApiRegUser.php): [12:53:58] Create new user accounts using ApiRegUser.php [12:53:58] SpecialUserlogin.php updated to support this new functionality. [12:57:26] are special pages ever catched? [12:58:17] more specificly, are custom special pages cached if you don't add anything special to make it catche? [12:59:22] 03mark * r25317 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/ (changelog postinst): [12:59:22] wikimedia-task-appserver (1.18) feisty; urgency=low [12:59:22] * Put the Mediawiki sync scripts in the postinst [13:00:05] never mind, found it (they arn't) [13:11:12] whee [13:18:15] Hello. I'm getting this error message: [13:18:23] 1054: Unknown column 'ar_page_id' in 'field list' [13:18:41] I guess there was a page under Maintenance folder, which could fix the missing columns in tables.. I can't recall [13:18:49] Can somebody help please? [13:19:05] update.php ? [13:19:19] let me test it [13:19:47] Yes that is it! [13:19:48] Thank you [13:19:57] you're welcome [13:20:24] does anybody have an idea why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Image:filename.png doesn't show the image inline, but only creates a link to the file version history? [13:20:42] oops... my irc client does stuff it shouldn't [13:21:11] does anybody have an idea why [[Image:filename.png]] doesn't show the image inline, but only creates a link to the file version history? [13:21:14] padde, there had been a case where an image didn't show a thumbnail, and I asked for help.. they fixed it by removing a catche [13:21:15] padde: because there isn't a file called filename.png [13:21:24] brion-office: there is [13:21:39] no there ain't, or it wouldn't be a redlink :) [13:21:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Filename.png [13:22:13] brion-office: it's not about wikipedia. this link was generated accidentally by my irc client [13:22:21] brion-office: it's about our company's wiki [13:22:25] padde: then you'll have to be a lot more specific [13:22:29] like giving an example [13:22:33] brion-office: and there the image in question definitely exists. [13:22:34] an example that's actually true :) [13:22:48] padde, then give a link to your wiki [13:23:02] brion-office: that's why I repeated my whole sentence, after switching off that auto-substitution thingy in my irc client [13:23:14] hojjat: it's internal only [13:23:31] mmm. That way, I'm not sure if I can help [13:23:57] the thing is: [[Media:filename.png]] does exactly what it should: create a link to that file on the server, and when i click on it, i get the plain image in my browser [13:24:19] is there anything I could have configured wrong? some common mistake or something? [13:24:45] might be, who knows [13:24:57] look in the html output and confirm that the is there and has the right url [13:25:24] and that you haven't disabled image loading or blocked image loading from your site in your browser [13:25:34] 03(mod) broken 'file history' link for commons hosted images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7190 (10N/A) [13:25:45] brion-office: as I said, the is not there. [[Image:...]] creates a to that image's history page [13:29:15] 03(NEW) Links in transcluded file history for images should link to Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11122 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (brianna.laugher) [13:33:31] 14(DUP) Links in transcluded file history for images should link to Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11122 +comment (10brion) [13:33:32] 03(mod) Links on commons upload summaries do not link to commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10863 +comment (10brion) [13:42:35] 03(NEW) Don't display the blank edit summary notice on talk pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (roland.hieber) [13:44:18] 03(mod) Don't display the blank edit summary notice on talk pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:47:10] hi [13:47:18] 03brion * r25318 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (AutoLoader.php api/ApiInstantCommons.php api/ApiMain.php): [13:47:18] Revert r25297, r25298 for now. [13:47:18] Adds what seems to be a very purpose-specific extension into the core API: [13:47:18] a) shortly before release [13:47:18] b) while apparently not implementing much of its interface [13:47:20] c) with an interface that looks kind of strange to me [13:47:41] hi [13:48:26] helloo ? [13:50:24] fuck this "help channel" [13:50:30] 03(mod) Adding the sha1 to the imageinfo query - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11115 +need-review +patch (10brion) [13:50:55] fuck you too [13:50:57] heh [13:51:00] here for three minutes and didn't ask a fucking question [13:51:00] lol [13:51:01] fucking moron [13:51:18] rofl ^_^ [13:51:22] ^_^ then there's IRC Ettiquete to think about... [13:51:24] three minutes is nothing... [13:51:29] three days is something... [13:51:42] sometimes you don't even get an answer...then move along... [13:52:10] hmm ip is from uruguay [13:52:25] my opinion of uruguainians will be forever tainted [13:52:25] IRC Ettiquete Rule #2: Never expect a hello... [13:52:33] bleh [13:53:16] I didn't expect they have internet at all there :/ [13:53:22] >_< [13:53:27] i would guess he was insulted that noone answered.. people's cultural expecations vary ... but still no need for the f-word [13:53:30] 03mark * r25319 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/ (changelog dirs postrm preinst rules): (log message trimmed) [13:53:33] wikimedia-task-appserver (1.20) feisty; urgency=low [13:53:35] * Alternate approach to solving the ucf conflict: replace ucf master file as [13:53:39] well [13:53:41] -- Mark Bergsma Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:43:50 +0000 [13:53:43] wikimedia-task-appserver (1.19) feisty; urgency=low [13:53:45] * divert ucf files as well to avoid prompting [13:53:58] good boy CIA-15 [13:54:14] if ( $channelname == #wikia ) { echo "Hello, world! } [13:54:16] rofl :P [13:54:32] where is that? [13:56:35] 03(mod) Don't display the blank edit summary notice on talk pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 (10brion) [13:57:04] heh... I still need to test my tableName rewrite... [14:02:52] 03(mod) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 (10robchur) [14:03:20] 03(mod) Don't display the blank edit summary notice on talk pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 +comment (10danny_b) [14:05:18] 03(mod) Improve inline data editing with textual dialects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9536 highest->normal (10robchur) [14:11:21] 14(WFM) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:12:19] 03(mod) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 +comment (10garas-) [14:13:09] 04(REOPENED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 (10garas-) [14:16:48] 04(REOPENED) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 +comment (10danny_b) [14:23:37] 03mark * r25320 10/trunk/ubuntu/autoinstall/ (pmtpa-internal.cfg pmtpa.cfg): Preseed values to save us from pain later [14:26:00] 03raymond * r25321 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLt.php: [14:26:00] * (bug 9742) Update Lithuanian translations [14:26:00] Patch by Edgaras [14:26:34] 03(FIXED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:45:47] hello, is 1.10 stable? [14:45:51] Yes. [14:45:58] thank you [14:45:58] 1.11 is the development version [14:46:04] 1.10 is stable [14:55:32] Stylee: the latest version is 1.10.1, and version 1.11 is coming soon [14:57:27] Shinjiman_ thank you [15:16:40] 03catrope * r25322 10/branches/apiedit/phase3/ (198 files in 16 dirs): apiedit: Merging latest revisions (a lot of them) from trunk [15:23:38] 03(mod) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 (10brion) [15:30:36] when will be release 1.11? [15:33:08] Hello? Is there anyone in this channel? [15:33:17] Hi [15:33:17] <_Danny_B_> brion: then close it as wontfix [15:33:33] <_Danny_B_> asmarin: once it's finished? [15:33:34] asmarin: when i get a few days free to clean it up [15:33:41] greg_ did you ask a question earlier? I just joined a couple of mins ago [15:33:42] greg_: nope. nobody here [15:33:54] Oh argh my terminal mode is hosed. I will have to come back with my question. [15:33:58] brion-office: ok thanks :-D [15:34:00] *brion-office points at the channel topic [15:34:08] :D [15:35:19] Hello folks. I am interested in starting a wiki in which some of the pages can be edited "anonymously"; only the sysops would know who did the edits. [15:35:39] Hmm [15:35:57] So you want just the sysops to be able to see the page histories [15:36:01] E.g. if you had a wiki on Walmart, with a mix of public pages and "whistleblower" pages, you would want this. [15:36:27] How about Special:Recentchanges then? You wanna hide them there for non-sysops? [15:36:43] RoanKattouw CLose. I want users to see the revision history, so that they can do reverts themselves. But they wouldn't see the IP numbers or user names. [15:36:51] Ah [15:37:06] But only for some pages and not for others? [15:37:28] Ideally! If there is no simple way to do this on a page by page basis, I do not mind it for the whole wiki. [15:37:52] It would come at the cost of splitting things that could have been one wiki into two separate wikis. [15:38:21] Well the code currently doesn't allow that, we would have to add such a feature [15:38:38] 03(mod) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 (10danny_b) [15:38:53] You could file an enhancement request at MediaZilla [15:38:58] I do not know PHP, but I have 5 years of experience with Python and 10+ years with Perl. So I can do simple changes. [15:38:59] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ [15:39:11] Just act like you're filing a bug and set its priority to "enhancement" [15:39:29] This way we'll have a centralized place to discuss it [15:39:39] Whether it's gonna be done, and if so, how [15:39:54] I can even do complicated changes, if I have time, and if my code won't be rendered useless by new code versions. [15:40:10] I'm trying to get the extension Makesysop work. But I don't know what to put on the line "$wgLocalDatabases = array('cool' => 'coolwiki', 'foo' => 'foowikidb');) " [15:40:11] <_Danny_B_> i'd say to do this just hack the relevant sources which create the output and remove outputting of username [15:40:45] Danny_B All right. But which sources, and how should I modify them in the most reasonable way? [15:40:46] <_Danny_B_> greg_: however, i wonder how this "anonymity" could be useful [15:40:57] That would be include/PageHistory.php or some similar name [15:41:02] includes [15:41:10] Danny_B As I said, suppose that you had a whistleblower page. [15:41:46] Danny_B For instance there was a blog devoted to getting rid of an incompetent director of Los Alamos National Laboratory. [15:42:19] I'm pretty sure it's in includes/PageHistory.php [15:42:26] greg_: register an account with a pseudonum [15:42:30] them edit all you like [15:42:31] how about creating an account with no password, that can only edit certain pages? [15:42:32] totally anonymous [15:42:52] <_Danny_B_> brion: that was what i exactly wanted to point to [15:43:10] Well then you can still link someone's edits together [15:43:38] You can see that the guy who edited [[Main Page]] yesterday morning is the same guy who just edited [[Project:WalMart]] [15:43:45] so? [15:43:49] Is that your problem, greg_? [15:43:55] if he doesn't like that idea, he can register another account [15:44:02] True [15:44:05] these days you can automatically get information like that from the writing style anyway [15:44:17] then User:Wh15tl3bl0wR is separate from User:CoolGuy [15:44:18] Also true :P [15:44:20] Certainly it would be functional if I created a single open account for people to use. I am not sure whether there is any real drawback. The only one that comes to mind is that maybe users would consider it a pain to log in? [15:44:43] brion-office can the same user be logged in at two different IPs simultaneously? [15:44:50] RoanKattouw: yes [15:44:58] of course a user can change the password and lock everyone else out ;) [15:45:11] brion has a good point, really. Somehow I was envisioning edits without people logging in. [15:45:14] Yeah true [15:45:20] brion-office Aha! You have identified a problem. [15:45:32] greg_ that's possible, but you'll see the IPs for anons [15:45:35] it's a good idea to make it clear their edits are not attributed to them if you're using the GFDL license [15:45:46] greg_: in theory you could hack around at things so anonymous logins don't use the ip address as the virtual username [15:45:52] Oh, there is another problem. The sysops need to know who is doing what. Because, as with a whistleblower page, you need a moderator to keep things reasonable. [15:45:55] not terribly difficult probably [15:46:00] poke around in User.php somewheres [15:46:13] Well yeah but you need the sysop/non-sysop distinction [15:46:14] look for use of wfGetIP(), one of them will be setting the default for non-logged in [15:46:20] Yeah, that's why I didn't think of it. [15:46:22] Hmm on the other hand you can use CheckUser [15:46:22] greg_: checkuser extension [15:46:35] It lets sysops see all users' IPs [15:47:13] <_Danny_B_> greg_: you can also take a look in sources and where source outputs IP you rewrite it to "anonymous user" [15:47:14] So, okay, if I had a "User:Wh15tl3bl0wR", then I could still use "CheckUser" to get ... exactly what information? [15:47:20] I could look that up. [15:47:26] IP addresses I believe [15:47:36] the ip address and any x-forwarded-for headers [15:47:37] Dunno exactly, never had CheckUser rights on our wiki [15:47:48] RoanKattouw a table of IP addresses and user actions? [15:47:58] So brion-office you'll be able to see their real IPs even if they're using a proxy? [15:48:08] Again, I dunno, never used it [15:48:23] But all edits of one user are accessible through Special:Contributions [15:48:27] Also for non-sysops [15:49:38] Is there a web page with an example of CheckUser output? [15:50:07] Quakeile: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLocalDatabases [15:50:12] Maybe at CheckUser's project web site? Wherever the hell that is... [15:50:44] If I used "User:Wh15tl3bl0wR", then certainly I would want to disable password changes. [15:51:03] thank you ialexandre, I'm looking there atm, but I'm not sure of the interwiki prefix [15:51:35] Okay, so I feel a little less stupid for not thinking of it; "User:Wh15tl3bl0wR" comes with its own issues. [15:52:35] Quakeile: the interwiki prefix in on interwiki table in the database [15:54:16] Perhaps the original proposed solution is the simplest: Just change the page history script to suppress the user names of the edits unless a sysop is logged in. I know to look in includes/PageHistory.php. The trickier problem is to figure out which PHP variables are relevant for what I just described. Also which paragraph of the code. It's somewhere in the historyLine function, maybe? [15:55:03] ialexandre when using this extension for 1 wiki only, is this value still needed? [15:55:36] Although if I used this solution I might worry a bit about security. I am not so worried about rogue access to mysql (although maybe I should worry), rather just that some other wiki script will let the cat out of the bag. [15:55:49] greg_ you could look through the docs in http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ [15:55:50] Quakeile: no, you use Makesysop like Userrights for the steward [15:55:55] Go to files -> includes/PageHistory.php [15:55:56] <_Danny_B_> greg_: i think this might be request for feature. something like adding of $wgHideUsernames which would handle that [15:56:18] Which you would have to file in MediaZilla [15:56:36] Danny_B I have no problem requesting the feature, the problem is just that I want to make sure I put together my wiki in the next month. [15:56:40] ok ialexandre, then i skip the $wgLocalDatabases, but still I get an errormessage [15:57:03] Quakeile: which error message ? [15:57:11] <_Danny_B_> greg_: therefore diy, because i'm pretty sure it won't be added soon [15:57:23] SpecialMakesysop.php on line 37 [15:57:37] and it says: [15:57:39] <_Danny_B_> as mentioned above - edit all phps which output usernames [15:57:56] includes/PageHistory.php does histories [15:58:01] ialexandre: require( dirname(__FILE__) . '/../ExtensionFunctions.php' ); [15:58:12] includes/SpecialContributions.php for Special:Contributions [15:58:18] ialexandre: I guess I miss the .php file? [15:58:24] includes/SpecialRecentchanges.php for Special:Recentchanges [15:58:47] Danny_B You're saying that I should grep for all php files that print the username? [15:58:51] Or maybe just edit includes/User.php so non-sysops can't get the user name in the first place [15:58:57] No greg_ there's a better solution [15:58:57] Quakeile: yes, i'll serach where you can find it [15:59:09] There is a function in includes/User.php that provides the user name [15:59:13] RoanKattouw Aha. [15:59:26] RoanKattouw Is that a choke point for the whole code base? [15:59:27] Make it return "Anonymous" unless a sysop is logged in [15:59:31] I think it is [15:59:42] Brion-office do all user names come from includes/User.php? [16:00:03] Not sure though, brion-office might know for sure [16:00:31] Quakeile: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ExtensionFunctions.php and click on the download button [16:00:51] Quakeile: the save it in the extensions folder of mediawiki [16:00:55] thanks a million! [16:01:49] can i run wfGetDB outside of a Hook? [16:01:57] it works! =) thank you very much ialexandre! :D [16:02:14] Quakeile: you're welcome [16:02:15] it always drops me error message that the functions is unknown. [16:02:51] <[PRDS]MrShlee> Is the 1.11.0 delayed? [16:02:51] PunkRock where are you trying to run it then? [16:03:08] before calling a hook. [16:03:09] [PRDS]MrShlee 1.11.0 will be released when it's done [16:03:20] PunkRock somewhere in the trunk (main code) then? [16:03:27] yeah. [16:04:05] Well someone named "brion" logged out from this channel and this is also my first time using this particular irc software so I don't know if brion-office is even still around. [16:04:07] Should be possible [16:04:18] You're right brion is away [16:04:23] it's really fuck$d up. [16:04:26] Well you could try to just do it and see if it works... [16:04:37] Ahm PunkRock [16:04:46] wfGetDB() should work [16:04:46] sry [16:05:00] Or perhaps it's case-sensitive? wfGetDb() or something like that? [16:05:42] PunkRock what error message do you get anyway? [16:05:50] RoanKattouw Yes I could but there are two issues still. I can edit includes/User.php --- thanks a lot for that tip --- but what is the function to get the name of the user requesting the page? Also, yes I could try it and see, but it could be tricky to tell if there is some other script somewhere that leaks the info that I want to hide. [16:06:09] php on linus doesnt care for case sensitvity on classes and methods, right? [16:06:20] Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfGetDB() in /r1/people/joshua_bacher/public_html/mediawiki/extensions/BODIGger/ts_Settings.php on line 94 [16:06:20] 1. Just look through http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classUser.html [16:06:43] 2. Just try and see :P [16:06:58] Err PunkRock maybe you should require() the file wfGetDB() is in [16:07:09] i did. [16:07:11] Probably includes/Database.php [16:07:11] wait: [16:07:49] Fatal error: Call to a member function getConnection() on a non-object in /r1/people/joshua_bacher/public_html/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2135 [16:08:13] then after including databases it complains about exceptions [16:08:19] Hmm [16:08:23] I don't know [16:08:27] Anyway dinner's ready [16:08:31] after that it returns to the first Fatal Error. [16:08:31] So I'll be leaving now [16:08:34] yeah. [16:08:35] Sorry I couldn't help [16:08:36] dinner. [16:08:40] thx. [16:08:45] No problem [16:08:50] iam hungry also [16:11:42] Also, I am just curious --- does anyone know what "wg" stands for in the configuration variables? "Wiki confiG" maybe? [16:11:52] wiki global? [16:12:08] Wikipedia global - for historical reasons [16:12:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wg_global [16:12:34] or was it http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wg_variable ? bleh [16:14:03] If you integrate mediawiki with the Simplemachines forum. When you click on the "discussion" link, can you get to the forum and discuss the article there? [16:14:35] or are the SMF extensions just making to that mw and smf is sharing the same usertables? [16:17:58] In the scripts, is "wgUser" the user who is logged in? [16:24:07] 04(REOPENED) checkLanguage.php does not find unexisting messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113 +comment (10lejonel) [16:25:41] Yeah I guess so. [16:25:45] Anyway bye all. [16:25:48] 03(mod) checkLanguage.php does not find unexisting messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11113 (10raimond.spekking) [16:48:58] http://pastie.textmate.org/92478 [16:49:00] Cut and paste, anyone? [16:53:42] 03(NEW) Render onsite URLs written in external link form like internal links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11124 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (danny_b) [16:57:24] good afternoon [16:57:50] 03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects *removes* "fixed" items, breaking paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 +comment (10russblau) [16:59:15] 03(NEW) Changing the text when a wiki dosen't exict - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (steinninn) [16:59:58] 03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki dosen't exict - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 (10steinninn) [17:01:39] hi team, I want to start translation for Mediawiki [17:02:09] can somebody please help me regarding which is good to start Trunk/Branch? [17:04:57] aalam: I don't know, but I would guess trunk, since translations are pretty harmless until activated. [17:05:25] But I am surprised to find that there are still more languages to translate MW into. [17:05:38] davidmccabe: ok, thanks [17:06:11] actually, I want to update for Punjabi (pa), which is already part but only 16% [17:06:25] 03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects *removes* "fixed" items, breaking paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10thomas.dalton) [17:06:25] 03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki dosen't exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 summary (10danny_b) [17:06:27] Where can i get "pg.so" module? [17:06:40] <_Danny_B_> damn, i'm blind [17:06:44] 03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki doesn't exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 summary (10danny_b) [17:08:24] I have a php_pdo_pgsql.dll but mediawiki refuses to take it ;[ [17:09:31] Hello, if I wanted to load my divs between the TOC and the body of the text what would be the easiest way to accomplish this? [17:13:08] I have a question: is there a tool to do a wiki type website with pictures, ordered by categories and multi tagged etc like galleries but where userscan submit or edit entries [17:13:18] thanks in advance for any pointers [17:21:40] 03david * r25323 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtPages.php): basic thread protection without regard to replies [17:24:36] 03mark * r25324 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/ (changelog control): [17:24:36] wikimedia-task-appserver (1.21) feisty; urgency=low [17:24:36] * Depend on tetex-extra [17:33:05] ;; must get pg.so [17:33:13] *pgsql.so [17:52:30] If you integrate mediawiki with the Simplemachines forum. When you click on the "discussion" link, can you get to the forum and discuss the article there? [17:53:25] Quakeile, that would be a question for the author of the integration hack. [17:53:32] We didn't write it, we just wrote MediaWiki. [17:53:41] aha, ok, I see [17:54:27] Simetrical: is there a demo/live site of mwbb anywhere? [17:57:00] Quakeile, I've never heard of it. [17:57:20] ok, just wanted to see it in action [17:57:20] This isn't a very good place to ask about third-party hacks (although you're free to try). [17:57:39] It's mostly MediaWiki developers who hang out here, not MediaWiki users. [17:59:36] if i use the database class provided by the api (accessed via wfGetDB) do i have to set smthg. like autocommit? [18:00:32] Why can not logged-in users use wild cards when searching in Wikipedias? [18:01:26] How do I load my skin by default for users that don't have accounts set up yet? [18:02:05] hi all [18:02:16] PunkRock, not generally. Look around for examples in the code and you'll see how it's used. [18:02:28] roscoe, change LocalSettings.php. [18:02:50] i have problems with my caracther, after i imported my mediawiki database from windows to a online liinux, some caracthers are strange [18:03:34] all articles that have " caracther appear strange [18:03:45] lejonet, I dunno. rainman-sr is the author of the Lucene search plugin that Wikipedia uses. [18:04:06] look:http://walter.gabrielfalcao.com/lampiao/mediawiki/index.php?title=Especial:Allpages [18:04:10] Simetrical: i don't touch this var but my clean sql code is not inserted. [18:04:12] Simetrical, thank you [18:04:17] is it currently possible for me to import a page from the hebrew wikipedia to commons? [18:04:45] culd someone help me to fix this? [18:05:22] yonatan, I don't know, try it and see. Or ask in #wikimedia-tech. [18:05:44] "No transwiki import sources have been defined and direct history uploads are disabled." [18:06:38] Then ask for it to be enabled, I guess. [18:07:34] Simetrical: ok. thanks. i had to explicitly commit [18:09:23] last try :) [18:09:25] I have a question: is there a tool to do a wiki type website with pictures, ordered by categories and multi tagged etc like galleries but where userscan submit or edit entries [18:09:27] thanks in advance for any pointers [18:09:53] jchante, well, this is #mediawiki, not [18:09:56] Bleh. [18:10:02] 03(NEW) Enabling Special:Import on Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (yonatanh) [18:10:08] Where can i get "pg.so" module? [18:10:08] jchante, well, this is #mediawiki, not #software-advice or anything. [18:10:10] I have a php_pdo_pgsql.dll but mediawiki refuses to take it ;[ [18:10:18] Most people here are developers, not website operators. [18:10:22] Not really the best place to ask. [18:10:23] thanks [18:10:29] Kolak, talk to G_SabinoMullane. [18:10:36] ..PM? [18:10:36] I thiought, maybe mediawiki could do the trick [18:10:38] jchante: commons uses mediawiki for that [18:10:53] Kolak, or wait until he pops up, now that I've said his name. [18:11:01] Kolak, he does MW's pgsql support. [18:11:09] mk. [18:11:22] but thanks to you both [18:11:42] jchante, er, right, MW can do that (although it's probably not very ideal). I assumed you were looking for something other than the software whose channel you were in, since I figured you must have already considered that. [18:12:39] well I thought it'd be appropriate both for the moderating side of it and the collaborative also [18:13:15] 03(mod) Enabling Special:Import on Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [18:14:25] heh, you should've told me shell access was required, i wouldn't have bothered requesting :P [18:16:52] 03rotem * r25325 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [18:20:40] *Kolak pokes G_SabinoMullane [18:20:48] Hello, all! [18:21:14] Is there a way to hide an article, so that only admins can see it? [18:21:24] I'd be very grateful for your responses, kind sirs [18:21:29] exizt, delete it. [18:21:39] No, I want it to exist. [18:21:48] It will still exist, just be deleted. [18:22:05] For alternatives, see: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [18:22:07] It's onthologically incorrect, I abhore such notions [18:22:12] oh thank you [18:22:16] Well, we don't want irreversible actions. [18:22:23] So deletions are reversible. [18:22:43] And deleted revisions are therefore viewable, albeit through a different interface. [18:22:44] Yes, I see [18:22:59] But I just need it to be accessible only by admins [18:24:14] Oh, I see it is not possible. Oh, well. [18:28:12] what's a namespace? [18:29:59] Talk:, Help:, MediaWiki:, MediaWiki talk:, . . . [18:30:40] A set of pages prefixed by a given string ending in a colon, with namespace functionality enabled. [18:31:05] You can often search, filter, etc. by namespace in various places in the interface. [18:31:10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access [18:31:11] Oh, i see [18:31:13] Thank you [18:31:37] Why on links to some wikitech-l essages pipermail says "404 - not found"? [18:33:58] Kolak: you need to compile pg with the --with-pgsql flag. MW doesn't use PDO, just the plain ol' db interfaces. [18:34:24] and... how do i compile on winblows? [18:34:31] -bl +d [18:36:28] *Kolak poke [18:37:59] 04(REOPENED) New Namespaces on german wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11101 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [18:39:59] Can I do simple math with templates? [18:40:37] and... how do i compile on windows? [18:41:30] Kolak: Not really sure, I don't use windows. Presumably there is an executable you can download from php.net? Have you looked at your php.ini file - perhaps it needs to be enabled there. [18:42:44] I think you may need to remove the semicolon fro this line in php.ini: ;extension=php_pgsql.dll [18:44:22] nope ;-; [18:45:15] Kolak: You might try #php, I know little php and even less windows php. [18:48:00] Is it possible to make the address look like in wikipedia? e.g. not http://.../index.php/article_name [18:48:33] but /wiki/articlename [18:48:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [18:48:57] but since my index.php is in /wiki/ already it would look weird! [18:48:59] oh my [18:49:11] you should move the wiki to /w [18:49:14] I thank you, ye good sport [18:49:51] so /w/index.php?foo and /wiki/Article [18:54:52] How do I mark comments? [18:55:07] With a '#' [18:55:20] (You mean in the mediawiki code?) [18:55:25] Thank you very much [18:55:30] Yes, it did the trick. [18:55:33] ;) [19:01:42] 03(mod) Configure transwiki sources for the Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 summary (10robchur) [19:04:04] does anyone know why short url's used to work in the root of a site but no longer do (following SVN) ie wiki.domian.com/ArticleName [19:21:19] Hi, are there any DNSBLs or similar efforts for wiki-spammers? [19:24:00] pls. tell me it's possible to pick template variables from other pages [19:24:30] and to do simple math to deterimime presentation [19:24:53] I think you could do something like {{templatename|{{transcluded_parameters}}}} [19:24:54] kunsole what do you mean by picking them from other pages? [19:25:00] Math is possible at any rate [19:25:09] intgr what are DNSBLs? :P [19:25:40] RoanKattouw: DNS block lists, lists of bad IP addresses that are normally used for e-mail spam. [19:25:50] Hmm I dunno [19:26:00] I'm just a programmer [19:26:01] Not "lists" per se, but they're looked up over DNS so they're always up to date. [19:26:03] RoanKattouw: to include some info in one template from a template on some other related page [19:26:26] Well, there certainly needs to be one such list. [19:26:28] I don't think that's possible [19:26:41] crap [19:26:45] I agree [19:26:47] Maybe I should start one. [19:27:08] But I'm not in charge of all that, so you should wait till someone who is sees this and responds [19:27:10] Because wikispammers are making quite a dime with unmaintained wikis. [19:30:19] 03(mod) Section edit links for transcluded templates are not affected by < noinclude> or - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6563 -testme (10EN.WP.ST47) [19:30:56] RoanKattouw: where can I learn about doing maths with templates? [19:31:27] Although I guess I'm not ready to survive DoS attacks from spammers. [19:31:59] And all the other tactics that spammers will probably use once the BL takes up. [19:32:01] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions [19:32:11] #expr would be most useful for you [19:32:27] 03(mod) No error message given when password is rejected for being empty - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10250 -testme ; +comment (10EN.WP.ST47) [19:32:32] intgr you're right, maybe ask brion what he thinks of it [19:32:43] ? [19:32:46] BTW brion, how do I start a new extension? Just create a dir in trunk/extensions/ ? [19:33:02] brion: We were talking about DNSBLs for wiki spammers. [19:33:39] RoanKattouw: sure [19:33:45] intgr: starting your own dnsbl? [19:33:46] fun [19:33:55] Alright, will do that tomorrow then [19:34:03] brion: No, I'm hesistant to start my own one. [19:34:08] But I do think there should be one. [19:34:09] heh [19:34:25] Since unmaintained wikis are ubiquitous these days. [19:35:35] ;_; [19:35:40] gah [19:35:45] manual:short URL sucks [19:36:21] I installed inputbox and then unistalled it on my wiki because it caused me the following error [19:36:22] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /www/110mb.com/n/e/y/s/h/a/b/u/neyshabur/htdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php:1) in /www/110mb.com/n/e/y/s/h/a/b/u/neyshabur/htdocs/wiki/includes/WebResponse.php on line 9 [19:36:22] /**/ [19:36:55] and I tested CreateBox as well [19:36:55] Your LocalSettings.php contains a trailing/leading newline or space. [19:37:06] Soroush83: probably your editor added a utf-8 bom character to the LocalSettings.php file when you edited it [19:37:12] Make sure you don't have *any* characters outside of the tags [19:37:16] you'll have to remove it; bom char is incompatible with php [19:37:18] How can I have a template that has unknown number of variables e.g. {{website|lang1|lang2...}} for describing what languages the website is available in? [19:37:24] it works well on windows [19:37:34] and bad on debian Linux on server [19:37:45] kunsole use 30 parameters or something [19:37:52] How can I find the infected character? [19:38:05] Just use {{{1}}} all the way through {{{30}}} or more [19:38:14] so {{{2}}} , {{{4}}}... RoanKattouw? [19:38:14] Soroush83: Err, use a hex editor? :) [19:38:24] err .. 2,3,4... [19:38:28] I modified Title::isProtected(), and I notice that this function's result is honored in some places, but not others. For example, Title::userCan() doesn't seem to check isProtected at any point. Also, EditPage shows a warning that the page is locked, but doesn't actually show the ordinary View Source page instead, and still allows editing. So I would like to know, what is the proper place to patch in order to add extra checks f [19:38:28] or page protection? [19:38:31] 1,2,3,4,5....,29,30 [19:38:40] oh thanks. I think I got the problem :) [19:38:47] brion? [19:38:48] I'll try it now [19:38:56] RoanKattouw: how do I determine when there are no more variables? [19:39:02] But kunsole you need to handle missing params well, e.g. with {{#if:}} [19:39:14] You don't. You just pray nobody uses more than 30 of them [19:39:29] davidmccabe: afaik isProtected() is an advisory for UI which is maxmized for efficiency at the expense of accuracy [19:39:31] You can do {{#if:{{{1|}}}|this gets printed if 1 isn't empty}} [19:39:35] though perhaps i misremember [19:39:54] brion: the tab at the top of the page uses quickUserCan. [19:40:02] RoanKattouw: thanks :) [19:40:07] np [19:40:31] brion: Any ideas where I should look if I want to place extra restrictions on actual editability of pages? Specifically, I want to check if the talk page is protected in addition to the specific thread. [19:41:07] brion: Anyway, do you have ideas where I could discuss this DNSBL thing? [19:41:37] userCan presumably [19:41:54] intgr: um, whereever people are interested i guess? [19:42:14] I'm not sure "where" people would be interested. [19:42:30] RoanKattouw: where can I learn about using maths on template variables? [19:42:49] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions [19:42:56] Look at the #expr: section [19:43:22] brion: on closer inspection, it looks like isProtected is used only for the protect tab, and for those notices in editpage (seemingly designed for semiprotection, but also used for full protection). [19:43:37] Bookmarked now. Big thanks RoanKattouw [19:43:44] No problem [19:44:06] OH MY GOD [19:44:08] brion: btw, this gave me a chuckle: http://pastie.textmate.org/92478 [19:44:10] davidmccabe: right. it doesn't do the potentially expensive cascade operations [19:44:12] cut and paste, anyone? [19:44:24] :P [19:46:29] intgr, thanks a lot. removing the outside chars of by a Hex Editor worked well:) [19:48:10] brion: what (the hell) is the difference between userCan and getUserPermissionErrors? [19:48:46] getUserPermissionErrors returns detailed information on why you weren't allowed [19:48:50] afaik :) [19:49:08] brion: so if I was patching something, it'd be getUserPermissionsErrorsInternal? [19:51:33] Anyone know why the trunk copy throws out this error (MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'img_sha1' in 'field list' (localhost)".)? [19:52:19] 03(FIXED) New Namespaces on german wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11101 +comment (10jeluf) [19:53:31] TikiTDO: because you didn't update your database? [19:53:51] Is there a command to do that, or do I need to do it by hand? [19:54:09] use putty and do php update.php [19:54:14] Ahh, thanks a lot [19:55:31] OH MY GOD [19:56:39] davidmccabe: um, dunno? [19:57:23] k. [19:57:39] Can sb, who is familar with regular parsers have a look at http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72994 [19:58:28] These are rows of a table musn't be seen if "area" or "height" isn't defined [19:58:59] It is a part of a template- a part of its table [19:59:16] but it doesn't work as it is needed [20:02:17] Can sb, who is familar with regular parsers have a look at http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72994 [20:02:26] These are rows of a table musn't be seen if "area" or "height" isn't defined [20:02:32] It is a part of a template- a part of its table [20:02:51] but it doesn't work as it is logically expected :( [20:04:54] hey [20:05:06] were is the default css file for mediawiki? [20:05:29] soskel, do you mean me? [20:05:39] were is the css file for mediawiki [20:05:42] the defualt one [20:05:51] for the design [20:05:54] it is fa.wikipedia.org [20:06:09] ???? [20:06:14] what> [20:06:25] soskel, MediaWiki:Common.css [20:06:30] Is that what you want? [20:06:33] yea yea [20:06:35] thanks! [20:06:42] he probably means /skins/monobook/main.css, I think [20:07:13] oh sorry soskel, I thought you were answering me ;) [20:07:19] TikiTDO: I have 1.6.10, so that doesn't work [20:07:50] Soroush83: and I thought you were answering me [20:08:31] so did i :) [20:09:18] hello guys... ! [20:09:22] no matter. I'm still waiting. No one know my answer or take a look at it. I wonder if it is a bug of ParserFunctions [20:10:34] Soroush83, I don't think the or keyword works for #if: [20:11:00] I would need to know a bit more precisely what data is available on each dumps, is there a link somewhere ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps does not help much ! [20:11:05] so what trick should I use? [20:11:10] Try something like #if: {{{area|}}}{{{height|}}} [20:11:45] thanks. I'll try it now to see how it works [20:13:59] OH MY GOD [20:15:51] I am, more precisely, trving to detect cycles in category hierarchies, is pages-articles.xml.bz2 suitable ? [20:16:15] Or do i need pages-meta-current ? [20:16:25] were can I edit the css for mediawiki [20:16:33] the main default css [20:17:21] someone please [20:18:01] soskel: if you need to edit [20:18:08] I know [20:18:15] but were is the file I need to edigt [20:18:45] aha [20:18:56] in your mediawiki directory go to [20:19:27] lighttst\skins\common [20:19:47] ah [20:19:49] thanks [20:19:50] sorry go to skins\common [20:20:20] ok, and witch css file do I edit? [20:20:24] and go to skins\monobook [20:20:37] each one you wish [20:22:45] depending on your skin [20:22:45] thanks [20:22:55] monobook or sth like that [20:27:14] 03david * r25326 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Protection of talk pages and parent threads cascades to children. [20:28:03] brion: the answer, in case you were curious: getRestrictions. [20:28:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Huston%2C+we+have+a+problem [20:28:24] ↑fone something fishy [20:30:46] dear TikiTDo, #if: {{{area|}}}{{{height|}}} did not work :( [20:31:39] Soroush83, that's strange, it worked on my wiki. What is it doing right now that you want to fix? [20:33:05] it works like "or" [20:33:44] I suspected it was because iterative #if but I tested [20:34:19] it wasn't the reason-- removing one of them causes it to work [20:36:48] davidmccabe: whee :) [20:37:13] Soroush83, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TikiTDO/templtest is that what you want it to look like? [20:42:21] 03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects *removes* "fixed" items, breaking paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10russblau) [20:46:42] aye, TikiTDO, It works well there [20:46:56] sorry for bother [20:47:05] Then you may want to look at your ParserFunctions installation [20:47:34] I should take a deeper look at the code and my ParserFunction version now [20:47:39] First try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TikiTDO/templ1 [20:47:52] I fixed a few other syntax mistakes that may or may not matter [20:47:53] Thanks very much for your help [20:47:58] I'll do it now [21:01:40] How does one purge the RC cache? [21:02:05] davidmccabe: the recentchanges table, or the HTTP cache of Special:Recentchanges view? [21:02:38] brion: I am messing with EnhancedChangesList::recentChangesLine and not seeing any results. So, whatever might be causing that. [21:02:47] afaik it just uses the timestamp of the last item for the http caching [21:02:58] oh, ok. [21:03:03] (combined with the usual $wgCacheEpoch and user_touched, i assume) [21:03:09] ctrl+reload usually does it [21:03:11] or alt+reload? [21:03:13] or shift+reload [21:03:15] whateveah :) [21:03:46] oh, looks like this function is being called at all. [21:03:51] I'm seeing a new RC entry but still no var_dumps :P [21:04:27] :P [21:04:32] there's all the weird blocky shit [21:04:37] i don't understand that crap :D [21:05:21] ahh, I'm still looking at the "classic" rc. [21:05:25] sorry to bug you. [21:06:37] :D [21:07:08] do you know what the red bang means? [21:07:49] Duesentrieb: do you think you could help with this http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/?title=Online_Demo#Anleitung_zum_Einbau --> "Wer schreibt eine Anleitung für MediaWiki?". [21:08:08] this was written by a C++ coder. [21:09:06] Duesentrieb: its about getting this http://www.dataloo.de/ak-vorratsdatenspeicherung-demo/pagepeel.html into mediawiki temporary, to support the demonstration against data retention [21:09:06] red ! == edit patrolling is enabled and the edit is not patrolled [21:09:43] mutante: ugh. it's moving. [21:10:22] Duesentrieb: the code is there, its just about telling people which files to edit and where to put the snippets [21:10:52] they already have instructions for Joomla, vBulletin, PHP-Nuke.. etc [21:11:25] cause stuff must go into [21:11:32] 03(FIXED) Create 4 namespaces on Italian Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10509 +comment (10jeluf) [21:12:23] mutante: it'S not that simple... for one thing, it depends on the skin... [21:12:32] mutante: maybe i can find a nice hack. [21:12:36] Duesentrieb: i know, thats why i ask you, i failed so far [21:12:42] thanks;) [21:13:16] grmbl... if i knew a html-based system message that is shown on every page... [21:16:34] 03(FIXED) Additional namespace on mk.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10607 +comment (10jeluf) [21:18:29] 03(NEW) Diacriticals in following text are not included in links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (D.U.Thibault) [21:18:52] mutante: ist allerdings 'nen bisschen blöd... das ding überlagert den login link. [21:19:11] glaub ich. [21:22:23] hrmm, Duesentrieb, ich habs auch noch in CCC related channels gepostet, vielleicht kommt da auch was [21:22:25] 03(mod) Check French link trail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 summary; +comment (10robchur) [21:22:46] Duesentrieb: weil die ganzen Erfa Kreise mit ihren Mediawikis.. koennten auf einen schlag.. etc [21:25:11] mutante: mit gewalt in kmonobook reinhacken geht sicher. ich suchnach 'ner hübschen lösung. [21:25:40] I need help getting this wiki off the ground: http://whatsinside.biz [21:31:21] 03david * r25327 10/branches/liquidthreads/includes/ChangesList.php: show talk page in RC [21:33:16] bah, i can't find anythong appropriate :( [21:34:46] 03(mod) Check French link trail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 (10raimond.spekking) [21:48:57] mutante: it really isn't easy to do this in a way that works for all skins. i could provide a patch for monobook, i guess. [21:50:31] Duesentrieb: monobook patch is nice already [21:50:52] mutante: well, if i could get it to work... mediawiki skin stuff is complex and sucky. [21:51:33] mutante: also, there is some special stuff for imagemaps, which is interfering, it seems. a blue [i] icon shows up in there for some odd reason. [21:52:30] ok, i gotta run anyways and will have patience, if i get reactions from elsewhere i'll tell you, thanks and see you later [21:53:20] What permissions does mediawiki need once installed? [21:53:41] jeward: you mean, in the database? [21:53:46] does it need to be readable or writeable by anyone other than nobody? [21:53:53] No, filesystem. [21:54:24] jeward: the images subdirectory has to be writable for mediawiki, if you want uploads or tex-math to work. [21:54:29] that should be all. [21:54:47] So I can lock everything else down? [21:54:48] jeward: everything (except AdminSettings.php) should be readable for the webserver, of course. [21:54:58] Okay, thanks. [21:55:28] mutante: the overlay makes it impossible to log in. it covers the link. not good. [21:56:55] mutante: hm, well, depends on font size, i guess. but it definitely does interfere with the ui :( [21:57:08] Hi, is there an extension that allows you to hide all contents of a wiki behind a login/password? [21:57:50] openartist: sure. $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true; [21:58:13] cool, were do I put that? in the local settings? [21:58:23] openartist: for more info, read the manual page about "preventing access". it'S linked from the faq (i hope) [21:58:32] okay great thanks [21:58:34] yes, all settings go into localsettings. hence the na,e [21:58:52] :) [22:04:05] 03(mod) Redirect graphic not shown in preview - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2333 +comment (10jidanni) [22:06:44] I have a wiki installed to /wiki and a bunch of files in /files. How do I link from a page in /wiki to a file in /files without encoding a http://hostname into the [url]? [22:16:27] *exizt high [22:29:41] andy753422: you can't. but you can make a template to ease the pain. [22:31:38] mutante: done. it's fugly, though [22:34:54] how do I change/set the date and time in mediawiki ? [22:35:02] couldn't find on google :( [22:35:18] Duesentrieb: Hmm, how will a template ease the pain? (i'm not that good with stuff like that) [22:35:19] mediawiki uses your OS's clock [22:36:12] flyingparchment: nope it doesn't, the OS clock is 00.36 and mediawiki shows 2 hours earlier [22:36:25] so your problem is timezone [22:36:27] andy753423: you could then write {{f|foo.doc}} to make a link. if you want it fancy had have parserfunctions, you can also make {{f|foo.doc|link text}} work. [22:36:32] are you in CEST? [22:36:53] flyingparchment: nope, I am GMT+1 [22:37:40] which country? [22:37:42] http://en.consumeria.info/wiki/index.php/Consumeria:Metrics XD XD [22:37:47] mark: macedonia [22:37:48] gemidjy: 00:36 is GMT+2 [22:37:56] current GMT is 22:36 [22:38:03] flyingparchment: ok, sorry +2 [22:38:26] which country's timezone do you want to use? (it matters to adjust for daylight savings) [22:38:52] flyingparchment: I just want to use it the local time, but it shows 2 hours earlier [22:39:02] i understand, i want you to tell me what 'local time' is [22:39:13] the time from my os, as u said [22:39:22] but it shows 2 hours earlier [22:39:45] gemidjy: so, you want to use central european (summer) time. [22:39:52] I guess [22:39:58] well, WHERE ARE YOU? [22:40:04] i live in the UK, so this would work: $oldtz = getenv('TZ'); putenv("TZ=Europe/London"); $wgLocalTZoffset = date('Z') / 60; putenv("TZ=$oldtz"); [22:40:11] it's an ugly hack, but it works [22:40:21] Europe/Skopje is the time I want :) [22:41:52] Duesentrieb: I am in Macedonia (Europe/Skopje) [22:42:04] i'm sure you can work out how to adjust what i just pasted :) [22:42:53] flyingparchment: yes, I am trying that now, thanks [22:43:41] hello all ! [22:44:31] I got a problem on a wiki I installed 1 year ago and I can't find out what to modify to "block" it (it's been infested by spammers) [22:44:54] could anybody tell me where to find this info ? [22:45:54] 03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects *removes* "fixed" items, breaking paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10thomas.dalton) [22:46:51] is there someone here who could answer me ? [22:48:33] Could lock the DB [22:48:49] The Manual has info on what Variable to set... [22:48:57] hum... not sure the provider permit that. [22:49:14] It's not a MySQL thing it's a Wiki thing. [22:49:23] It makes the Wiki 'Read Only' [22:49:47] So the MediaWiki software won't allow any action which would change the DB [22:50:23] IIRC it's $wgReadOnly = 'some reason for r/o' [22:50:23] and to remove the "bad pages" ? [22:51:07] delete them [22:51:14] how ? [22:51:36] a friend was asking me today, is it possible to click on a title in a table and get it to sort on that column, can it be done? [22:51:38] login as sysop to your wiki and delete the pages. [22:52:25] MrCheerful: this feature is part of MW 1.10 [22:53:44] Raymond_: wgReadOnly in wich file is it set primarly ? [22:53:59] Kozwa: localSettings.php [22:54:05] thx :) [22:56:36] we are running 1.10.1 [22:56:51] i see the spam blacklist doesn't work for https urls (at least on wikimedia), there's a reason? [22:57:25] That's news to me [22:57:34] can you point me in the direction of a FAQ / Howto / Article on how to do it. [22:57:53] Raymond_: and in wich file is the sysop set ? [22:58:25] MrCheerful: {| class="wikitable sortable" | .... should do it [22:58:54] or ? [23:02:04] or no way I can change it directly from the DB ? [23:02:11] or some config file ? [23:02:19] Kozwa: all sysop task can be done via the web, [23:03:00] Kozwa: you can do change the DB via SQL, but it's not recommended [23:03:05] yep, but it seems either corrupted since last year or that I can't find wich name I gave. [23:03:23] but i still have access to the db and the ftp so... [23:03:36] [[special:listuseres/sysop]] should show you all users with sysop right [23:04:53] Thx !! [23:07:49] does anybody have an idea what could cause [[Image:...]] not show images inline, but produce a link to the version history page of that (existent) image? [23:12:05] padde: [[:Image:name.jpog]] [23:14:10] Raymond_: is there a way to select a set of pages to delete ? [23:14:19] there are like a 100 spam pages ... [23:14:21] Kozwa: no [23:14:27] :( [23:14:28] thx [23:14:30] Kozwa: Look at Extension:Nuke [23:14:34] hmmm [23:14:38] see amidaniel :) [23:14:46] well [23:14:57] actually I'm gona block it definitely [23:15:10] I have no time to spend maintaining it [23:15:25] and nobody to be admin on it... [23:15:40] What's it about? [23:16:12] some lab's "usefull things to know" in a CS lab. [23:16:21] student CS lab [23:16:45] http://arip6.free.fr/wiki/index.php?title=Accueil [23:16:55] (it's in french) [23:17:18] padde: broken mime detection can cause that. what type of image? [23:17:27] Couldn't you just prevent editing by unconfirmed accounts? [23:17:43] Most school implementations of web software are restricted quite heavily [23:18:06] how to do it ? [23:18:23] Duesentrieb: png. I see! Actually I switched off MIME detection because it caused trouble when trying to upload flash files via the upload function. but then again I seem to remember to have tried that image thing with MIME detection switched on again [23:18:24] Kozwa: read the manual on "preventing access" [23:19:01] !access | Kozwa [23:19:01] Kozwa: For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [23:19:09] Hurray, the bot was useful :) [23:19:09] padde: you'd have to re-upload after switching it on again. but before you do that, go to the image (history) page and look what mime type is reports. [23:19:11] *amidaniel pets mwbot [23:19:39] Duesentrieb: (file size: 11 KB, MIME type: text/plain) [23:19:47] amidaniel: neat. does it list factoids? [23:19:55] padde: that's the reason then. [23:20:01] Duesentrieb: I see. thank you very much. [23:20:01] Duesentrieb: It does [23:20:38] Duesentrieb: i'll fix that as soon as I have access to the config... but how could I accomplish that .swf-upload AND image embedding works? [23:20:51] padde: it shouldn't happen though, even if you turn off mime type detection... check the actual contents of the file (you should have a link there). does your browser show it correctly? [23:21:00] 03(mod) Allow larger/user-specified thumbnail sizes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11118 +comment (10bugzilla) [23:21:15] padde: well, that depends on what problem you had with swf uploads. and how you "switched off" mime detection. [23:21:18] Duesentrieb: yes, no problem at all. it's a 11KB png [23:21:27] k then [23:21:33] fix your upload/mime settings. [23:21:53] all you should have to do to allow swf files is add swf to $wgFileExtensions [23:22:20] Duesentrieb: i did that. but whenever I uploaded one, I got a weird error message in red, which of course now i can't remember... let me look it up [23:23:07] amidaniel: "/msg mwbot help" doesn't help... [23:23:22] sorry [23:23:23] !mwbot | Duesentrieb [23:23:23] Duesentrieb: Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. There's not much documentation on me, but you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [23:23:51] amidaniel: so, how do i make it list factoids? how do i add one? [23:24:00] @trust wikipedia/duesentrieb [23:24:00] Added wikipedia/duesentrieb to trusted hostnames list. [23:24:09] To add a factoid just do !foo is bar [23:24:12] \o/ [23:24:20] Alias with !foo is also bar [23:24:23] Delete with !foo del [23:24:37] List a factoid with !foo or address it to a person with !foo | person [23:24:53] erm, sorry, !foo alias bar [23:25:01] amidaniel: but i want a list of all he knows [23:25:07] @search .* [23:25:07] Results: [bugzilla, download, extensions, extranamespace, hidetoc, imagemap, install, javascript, logo, mediawiki, mwbot, package, pastebin, purge, repeat, simpleurl, subversion, support, welcome, wiki] [23:25:18] ah. but why @? [23:25:26] that'S a bit arcane [23:25:30] It is :) [23:25:33] I dunno .. liked it [23:26:24] Duesentrieb: i ran into this error message when uploading .swf: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Uploading_files#The_file_is_corrupt_or_has_an_incorrect_extension._Please_check_the_file_and_upload_again. [23:26:25] hm... if @ prefixes commands, "@del foo" seems more intuitive than "!foo del". [23:26:44] Duesentrieb: so I added $wgVerifyMimeType = false; # to LocalSettings.php [23:26:45] 04(REOPENED) link landmine on every page if images not loaded - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9714 minor->trivial; low->lowest; summary; +comment (10jidanni) [23:26:45] padde: what os does the webserver run? [23:26:54] Duesentrieb: CentOS 5 [23:26:58] Hi [23:26:58] Well, !foo ... implies you're figeting with a factoid, @foo means you're figeting with the bot [23:27:08] Duesentrieb: (a red hat clone) [23:27:15] And search ... I dunno .. just fit there [23:27:32] It's all about outofband signals, my dear :) [23:27:34] do all of you have a lil media wiki?? [23:27:37] But anywho .. I gotta run [23:27:43] padde: good. set $wgMimeDetectorCommand = 'file -bi'; [23:27:45] Take care [23:28:09] oy, he's gone... [23:28:27] Duesentrieb: ok. thanks! i'll do that as soon as i'm in the company and have SSH access ;) [23:29:23] padde: workaround if all else fails: $wgStrictFileExtensions = false; then you still get a warning, but you can override it. but using external mime detection should fix it. [23:29:48] 03(NEW) ParserFunctions expr and ifexpr " unrecognised punctuation character" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11128 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (rockmfr) [23:29:49] padde: btw: when you go to an swf's page, what mime type does it report? also text/plain?... [23:29:49] Duesentrieb: I see. [23:29:55] 03(NEW) SpamBlacklist should check for HTTPS URLs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; (anaconda) [23:30:04] Duesentrieb: let me check [23:31:32] 03(mod) ParserFunctions expr and ifexpr " unrecognised punctuation character" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11128 (10rockmfr) [23:31:34] 03daniel * r25328 10/trunk/extensions/News/News.php: fixed retunr statement in hook function [23:31:46] Duesentrieb: yep [23:31:57] Duesentrieb: How_to_generate_a_public_key_for_PuTTY_with_PuTTYGen.swf‎ (file size: 419 KB, MIME type: text/plain) [23:32:28] Duesentrieb: but here it doesn't matter for me, because I use the Flash extension, which plays the flash video inline anyway [23:32:30] padde: something is wewwy odd is happening there. using the file command should fix it, though [23:33:18] Duesentrieb: ok. [23:33:29] padde: well, working mime detection is important. someone could upload a js file with evil code (like stealing your session cookie) as an swf. when viewd in MSIE, it would execute, and give away your session. [23:34:12] or it maybe some other nasty file containing a virus or something. [23:34:27] Duesentrieb: I'm aware of that. the wiki is only for company internal use, read/write access is only possible when logged in, so i think it's not that much of a problem in this case. [23:34:38] ok, silly question time ... is it possible to do comments in a page? [23:34:52] Alumin: you can... edit it? [23:34:52] not "page comments" aka discussion, but comments like [23:35:04] Alumin: try it and see... [23:35:31] padde: true. still sucks :) fix it. [23:35:35] ack, now I feel dumb [23:35:42] I just assumed HTML markup wouldn't work [23:35:51] a lot of html tags work too. [23:35:58] Duesentrieb: hehe, will do :) i'll tell you if it works with using file -bi for the detection. [23:36:04] thanks, will try it next time before asking :P [23:36:42] Alumin: i use
 and stuff like that all the time ;) probably there are wiki markups (or should I say markdowns in this case?) for that, but i don't bother learning them
[23:38:00] 	!tias is Try it and see.  You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried.
[23:38:00] 	Successfully added keyword: tias
[23:38:57] 	padde: nope, 
 is correct. that one is special even: it'S not passed through, but handeled as a special case internally.
[23:39:55] 	padde: you can also get pre-formated text by staring lines with whitespace. but it'S not the same as 
, which also implies .
[23:40:15] 	Duesentrieb: I see. you seem to know everything about this software ;)
[23:40:31] 	hello no :)
[23:40:38] 	but i have been around a while...
[23:41:54] 	Duesentrieb: then i'll give you another question (of more general nature): how would you make a map of (network) nodes and connections available in the wiki? usually i'd take OpenOffice Draw, but this surely can't be embedded... is there some wiki language construct, or some general language to make such maps?
[23:42:25] 	no there isn't. use SVG.
[23:42:41] 	i think there are some extensions for making diagrams... i think i saw somethign for uml
[23:42:49] 	perhaps it is flexible enough, or can be adopted.
[23:43:07] 	search the extension categories or matrix on mediawiki.org
[23:43:21] 	ok.. SVG as in exporting from the native Draw document?
[23:43:30] 	and then export it and re-upload on every change
[23:43:35] 	well
[23:43:41] 	thank you every body
[23:43:44] 	take care
[23:43:47] 	and cya :)
[23:43:52] 	good night !
[23:44:15] 	padde: you can skip the export step if you use an svg editor (inkscape works well)
[23:44:49] 	make sure you have working svg support in your wiki (it defaults to using imagemagick for rendering, which sucks. use one of the other options)
[23:45:46] 	Duesentrieb: thanks again :) i'll look into that
[23:50:27] 	Duesentrieb: i don't want to use imagemagick anyway, because it has a (stupid) dependency on X in CentOS, and I surely don't need X on that server
[23:50:53] 	(missing gentoo and its useflags)
[23:51:08] 	padde: well, for thumbnailing pixel graphics, it's still the best choice. but you should use something else for svg
[23:51:11] 	rsvg for example
[23:51:19] 	padde: anyway, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UML was what i was thinking of. This is also interesting: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inline_SVG 
[23:52:10] 	this look cool too: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnyWikiDraw
[23:55:14] 	yes, that looks really cool :)
[23:58:01] 	Duesentrieb: ok, thanks for all your input. i'll go to company now and try all that stuff ;) see you later!