all over the place because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Printable display is now even more broken than before as a result." [04:14:00] the SOC project was looking at asynchronous transcode [04:14:14] yeah, because of those bloody descendant selectors of course [04:14:32] and if I fix it it'll break something else, unless I'm really really careful, so it can be a todo for now [04:14:54] Simetrical: hmm? [04:15:14] 03tstarling * r25467 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (9 files): [04:15:14] * Implemented thumbtime and noplayer parameters as planned. [04:15:14] * Added pretty icons from Crystal Project, licensed under LGPL. [04:15:14] * Fixed audio display, now looks kind of OK in both gallery and vertically constrained environments. [04:15:14] * Replaced the rapidly growing parameter list for wgOggPlayer.init() with an associative array. [04:15:17] * Switched from
to

all over the place because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Printable display is now even more broken than before as a result. [04:15:20] The extension is now ready for beta testing. [04:15:22] 03aaron * r25468 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: *Only sanitize IPv6 titles for pages in user namespace. [04:15:32] VoiceOfAll, likewise: hmm? [04:15:40] about div tags [04:15:51] I know diffs were changed or something [04:18:04] VoiceOfAll, I was quoting Tim's last commit. [04:18:12] Simetrical: so have you seen it now? are you going to take back your scoff? [04:18:18] it's like 2000 lines of code or something [04:18:37] TimStarling, no, really, it's a great thing to have. No objections from me. Excellent work, and all. [04:19:04] contributions to MW, PEAR and Cortado [04:19:22] Oh, they let you de-suckify PEAR a little? [04:19:48] no, I just fixed up a PEAR module to process Ogg files [04:19:53] ooh [04:19:54] fancy [04:19:58] added theora support, etc. [04:21:56] you seem to be experienced. what sucks so much about php? what would be a good alternative? [04:22:03] padde, Python. [04:22:09] padde, or, if you hate Python, probably Perl. [04:22:20] Both are made by non-retarded people. [04:22:25] C++ [04:22:36] padde: Basically, anything else. [04:22:38] You might also look at Ruby, although that's a newcomer. [04:22:42] davidmccabe, shell scripts are worse. [04:22:45] they're all slow [04:22:51] Virtually all other languages were designed by people who know something about computer science. [04:22:55] C++ is fast [04:22:56] Simetrical: then why is PHP being chosen by non-retarded people for nearly EVERY bigger web application? [04:23:08] padde, biggest installation base. The network effect. [04:23:08] padde: It's not. [04:23:25] Hello-I am have a very basic problem with templates such as Template:Cite_news and Template:Cite_web <<---what code do I actually need to place in those files so that when I ref them in an article they are displayed properly [04:23:29] padde, especially for Web apps. Most Web hosts offer PHP, not necessarily Python or Perl. [04:23:39] padde, so most new web developers learn PHP. [04:23:54] TimStarling, Haskell is as fast as C++. You should use Haskell. [04:23:58] davidmccabe: it definitely is. i'd say 50% of websits i'm passing during my everyday surfing are being served by php [04:24:07] TimStarling: Sometimes just hanging around you sheds some light onto the MediaWiki source code. [04:24:18] haskell has the disadvantage of being completely insane [04:24:24] haha [04:24:26] which C++ only partially shares [04:24:38] TimStarling, but very coherently insane. [04:24:42] TimStarling: Writing in an HLL can actually free you up to write more efficient code. [04:24:55] davidmccabe, have you done a rigged productivity study? [04:25:02] Or is it just personal experience? [04:25:08] *Simetrical wants to learn Haskell sometime for the hell of it [04:25:30] Simetrical: You should learn Haskell because it'll expand your mind. [04:25:34] anyone?? been struggly with this for a few days now, i tried pasting what wikipedia has inside of those files but to no avail [04:25:34] ... That's pretty much the only reason. [04:25:40] struggling* [04:25:49] hype: sorry, I have no idea. [04:26:00] Simetrical: where expand = blow. [04:26:05] hype, you need to copy all the templates called by those. And all the ones called by those, and so on. Also, install ParserFunctions. [04:26:25] davidmccabe, don't functional programming adherents claim it's potentially faster, blah blah blah? [04:26:32] It can be faster. [04:26:35] And, like, better for multithreading, and so on? [04:26:38] Simetrical: You should learn Haskell because it'll expand your mind. [04:26:42] Better for multithreading is interesting. [04:26:44] There are more optimizations possible because the compiler can make more assumptions. [04:26:44] my head's too big already [04:27:12] Like, theoretically Haskell statements can be reordered, right? [04:27:20] Eh, any mind that doesn't think it needs expanding is too small. [04:27:31] Simetrical: yeah, basically you could inline the whole problam :) [04:27:33] *program [04:27:34] excellent, where do you reccomend I retrieve Template: Cite news and web and what have you [04:27:40] And are independent of each other? So the compiler should be able to make threads automatically. [04:27:42] In theory. [04:27:43] wikipedia.org's seems to have a lotof excess on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_news [04:27:47] *Simetrical doubts it works like that in practice [04:27:50] for just a basic template [04:27:51] apparently PHP 4 can be compiled [04:27:51] Simetrical: I guess, if it was really smart. [04:27:55] I haven't tried it though [04:27:58] hype, pick some other Wikipedia then. [04:28:08] Simetrical: the real win is that since order doesn't matter, there are no contention issues etc. if you do it right. [04:28:24] ok, thank you [04:28:26] strongly typed languages have an obvious advantage when it comes to speed [04:28:33] davidmccabe, well, we don't want "really smart". If an assembly optimizer were "really smart" it could construct a provably optimal implementation of any algorithm provided (barring halting problem etc.). [04:28:36] TimStarling: I wonder how that compares to APC/eaccelerator stuff [04:28:39] I want "sort of smart". [04:28:46] TimStarling: You know, I may be wrong, [04:28:51] but I think that at this point, WP is big enough, [04:28:55] If we needed twice as many servers, [04:28:58] We would get twice as many servers. [04:29:11] oooh, bad move :P [04:29:12] davidmccabe, well, we did. [04:29:19] I think. [04:29:21] Or are planning to. [04:29:25] Well then there you go. [04:29:28] But it was delayed for months due to budgeting concerns. [04:29:30] "Performance doesn't matter. We'll get as many servers as we need" is NOT a good thing to say in front of Tim [04:29:36] although domas would be worse [04:29:40] People are now addicted enough to wikipedia that speed doesn't matter. [04:29:45] Yeah it does. [04:29:50] well it can't go too slow [04:30:01] Sure. [04:30:15] Many mirrors beat Wikipedia soundly when it comes to speed and reliability. [04:30:15] But you don't want to write it in assembler. [04:30:25] Speed is not the only thing. [04:30:27] TimStarling: did wikimedia always have APC or some equivalent? [04:30:38] Well, assembler is slower than C, in practice, for an entire program. [04:30:45] Because you use macros up the wazoo. [04:30:55] VoiceOfAll: I'm not sure [04:30:56] And no compiler gets to optimize them away. [04:31:04] *wikipedia* certainly hasn't [04:31:10] but wikimedia is younger than wikipedia [04:31:28] Tim seems single-mindedly focused on speed. [04:31:42] Speed is great. I'm advocating switching to git, and one of the big reason is speed. [04:31:42] 04(REOPENED) Timestamp support for categorymembers query - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10890 +comment (10stephen.bain) [04:31:58] I'd like to see compiled php 4 verses php 4 with APC [04:32:00] But there's linear-vs.-quadratic speed, and then there's saving-jumps speed. [04:32:14] if I'm single-mindedly focused on speed, how is it that I'm not even paying enough attention to this conversation to justify what I said about C++? [04:32:58] no, the thing in the other window is not to do with speed :) [04:33:01] Simetrical: What parser functions do you reccomend I install for the template usage [04:33:02] *davidmccabe glances nervously at the horrible O(n^2) algorithm in liquidthreads. [04:33:20] davidmccabe: which one? [04:33:21] *davidmccabe wanders off. [04:33:26] NotAMused: buildThread or something? [04:33:28] I forget the name. [04:33:40] hype, the ParserFunctions extension. [04:33:46] Efficient schema coming right up ;) [04:34:13] davidmccabe, did you solve tree versioning? [04:34:15] NotAMused: Basically I wrote a metric ton of highly inefficient code the last month in order to get something to work. Next I'll go back and make it efficient. [04:34:19] Simetrical: not fully. [04:34:28] The frustrating thing is that there are perfectly great ways to do it. [04:34:33] Just not in a relational database. [04:34:41] are wikimedia sites supposed to have LQs? [04:34:43] *davidmccabe wanders off. [04:34:46] VoiceOfAll, eventually. [04:34:54] When It's Done. [04:35:06] It should probably be enabled by default, When It's Done. [04:35:13] I'm always afraid of queries in flagged revs, trying to cut the fat as much as I can [04:35:36] It's not queries you need to be afraid of, it's bad queries. [04:35:36] I know that being runnable on WM sites will put a high standard on the code [04:35:37] LQs? LiquidThreads? [04:35:45] You can run a ton of good queries and no one cares. [04:36:00] Running one bad query per page view will cause the wrath of domas to descend upon you. [04:36:04] Simetrical: There is Parser phase 2, parser tools, a few others - would you mind linking me to the one you are spec. mentioning? thank you [04:36:25] hype, http://www.google.com/search?q=ParserFunctions+extension [04:36:29] thanks [04:36:31] Simetrical: that depends on the definition of "bad" [04:37:05] TimStarling, a table scan will do it. [04:37:10] if bad means more than about 200ms, you'll have the whole user base of wikipedia descend upon you because the site will be down [04:37:11] Table scan with filesort for bonus points. [04:37:18] what's the best way to upgrade from 1.4.10? yes it's ancient [04:37:37] jwang, back up first. Then try just dropping in the newest files and running update.php. [04:37:48] jwang, if that doesn't work, you can try upgrading more incrementally. [04:37:52] TimStarling: why does the 'view source' tab not show for cascade protection, was it a waste like page counters? [04:38:15] VoiceOfAll: yes. [04:38:18] VoiceOfAll, well, what's the query for cascade protection? [04:38:29] VoiceOfAll: TimStarling convinced me to avoid the extra query per pageview in doing that. [04:38:32] Simetrical: sounds good. thanks :) [04:39:17] NotAMused, you bastard. You're acting like flyingparchment now. [04:39:38] Simetrical: huh? [04:39:45] Changing your nick. [04:39:49] oh [04:39:50] And completely confusing me. [04:39:50] :P [04:39:54] :D [04:39:57] Until you say something that makes me whois you. [04:40:26] *chat-de-plafond opens up the code [04:40:46] SELECT ... FROM templatelinks, page_restrictions WHERE tl_namespace=N AND tl_title='S' AND tl_from=pr_page AND pr_cascade=1 [04:41:08] I've tested 1.3 -> 1.10 in a single step [04:41:11] worked for me [04:41:21] Hmm, that query doesn't suck too much, does it? [04:41:53] Simetrical: well it also does a second query on those pages [04:41:59] joining on page_restrictions [04:42:02] Select the row from templatelinks, join using tl_from=pr_page, scan all the results. [04:42:28] VoiceOfAll, that wouldn't be needed to just check whether or not the page is cascade-protected. [04:42:44] Actually, you could add a LIMIT 1 to make it O(1), I think. [04:42:48] Well, not quite. [04:42:57] You still need to scan until you get to a row with pr_cascade=1. [04:43:01] well, 'view source' does not apply to admins [04:43:03] But it should be Fast Enough(TM). [04:43:07] you need to sum all the restrictions [04:43:12] Simetrical: http://www.devanywhere.com/ViewPub.php?id=23 [04:43:13] Hmm. True. [04:43:15] that's the code [04:43:16] then decide [04:43:44] chat-de-plafond, I do have a local copy of MW, you know. [04:44:03] Simetrical: also for VoA's benefit. [04:44:12] *VoiceOfAll has a local test wiki [04:44:28] the cascading restrictions query is only on parser cache miss, not on page view [04:44:32] that's why it's tolerable [04:44:33] 2 versions running from the same db (MW and MW_trunk) [04:44:40] because parser cache misses are slow already [04:44:56] TimStarling: not only that, it's when you try to DO something to it [04:45:09] $do_espensive_queries or whatever. [04:46:48] at least, that's how I implemented it. [04:46:50] TimStarling: I mean it's certainly not the End of Teh World (TM), would be nice to have the right tab, but not sure if it's worth it [04:47:48] VoiceOfAll: you should be asking chat-de-plafond [04:48:26] uh oh [04:49:07] positive: we get the right tab; negative: extra query on parser miss [04:49:32] Simetrical: LIMIT would not be applied till after the scan [04:49:44] VoiceOfAll, sure it would. [04:50:02] Otherwise SELECT * FROM table LIMIT 1 would be a table scan. [04:50:19] it has a join though [04:50:21] The only time it has to be applied after the whole result set is read is if you're doing something like ORDER BY without indexes. [04:50:37] Yes, and MySQL is clever enough to stop as soon as it has enough matching rows from the second table in the join. [05:02:51] how does one insert unicode U+2758 and make wikipedia display the char? [05:03:25] ૆ [05:03:34] I think [05:03:35] thanks [05:13:38] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler [05:14:51] *amidaniel gives TimStarling a cookie [05:16:53] 03(mod) Change sitename of is.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 trivial->15enhancement; +shell; summary (10raimond.spekking) [05:26:20] night [05:27:47] im trying to use Special:MIMEsearch on en.wikisource.org, but it is returning no data. Any ideas why that would be ? [05:58:58] 03(mod) Change sitename of is.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 +comment (10jeluf) [06:17:06] 03(mod) Importing some pages fails because of deadlockLoop ( using postgres) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11080 (10brj) [06:17:08] 03(mod) Change sitename of is.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 (10steinninn) [06:48:34] Hi all - is this a good place to ask advice about external wiki editors? [06:48:43] indeed :D [06:48:57] Whatcha need? [06:52:02] well... I was looking at Notebook... but even if I figure out the installation for myself, it looks like something I wouldn't recommend to newbies. [06:52:38] but... at the same time, it seems llike Notebook is one of the only suitable programs for what I want - external and offline wiki editing, for creating and editingwiki pages; also for keeping my own notes in wiki style. [06:54:14] What platform are you on? [06:54:41] My personal recommendation would be someting along the lines of vim, and on unix systems, wikipediafs looks awful nifty [06:54:50] I'm on Xubuntu Linux [06:55:07] vim - does that mean learning the vi commands? [06:55:34] Ah, then have a peek at http://wikipediafs.sourceforge.net/ [06:55:52] I'm using zim wiki at the moment for my personal notes - which is pretty good in principle, but buggy (and apparently not maintained) [06:56:30] Oh, are you just looking for a desktop wiki? [06:56:48] By "external" editor I thought you were looking for online editing of sites like wikipedia [06:59:13] sorry - ChatZilla wouldn't let me type, so I restarted. [06:59:31] amidaniel: I'm looking for both. Ideally in the one program. [07:00:06] Hrm .. well, I don't know of any such program personally [07:01:29] ok... I'm surprised they haven't become more popular... [07:01:42] the wiki-style personal editors, I mean. [07:02:15] Well, wiki is generally something *collaborative* so it doesn't make too much sense as something *personal* :) [07:02:43] There are all sorts of programs that will keep local revision history, and several that will support markups such as mediawiki's [07:02:48] yeah... but for linking draft pages... and also for organizing notes, it's very handy, I find. [07:02:54] ok [07:03:19] where would I find them? I've been having trouble. [07:03:27] re WikipediaFS - do you find it's well-supported, and not too buggy? [07:03:56] I've not had a chance to tool around with wikipediafs but have been meaning to [07:04:11] The feedback I've seen has not seemed to report many problems with it [07:04:40] And local revision history is built into all sorts of programs, like OpenOffice, eclipse, etc. [07:05:18] somehow wikipediafs doesnt seem all that helpful [07:06:04] not all that helpful for personal notes, or...? [07:06:14] 03(mod) Change sitename of is.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 (10steinninn) [07:07:17] amidaniel: with a program like OpenOffice I'd have to get used to its way of doing things... I like the idea of doing all my note-taking and editing in the one place, or at least in places that work the same way. [07:07:18] for anything [07:07:57] sorry just noticed it was NathanJY made the comment about WFS not seeming helpful :) [07:08:16] you mean that you prefer to just edit online? [07:08:40] Yes [07:08:52] What's the advantage to editing hrough an FS? [07:09:01] I don't know ... I've long wanted an application that worked like a MediaWiki "shell" .. wikipediaFS isn't quite the approach I'd take, but I see it as a step in the right direction [07:09:09] It's not like you're going to have a giant list of all articles in one directory [07:09:16] Primarily just convenience and speed ... not needing to access the UI [07:09:30] 03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki doesn't exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 normal->high; +comment (10steinninn) [07:09:43] Simetrical|away: mod_proctitle is not buggy! [07:09:49] it never was! :) [07:09:58] *domas nukes Tim for libel [07:09:59] it's convenient to type a url in the 'locate file' dialog as opposed to in a browser? [07:10:15] being able to run macros easily, and search and replace, would be cool. [07:10:19] WikEd does some of that. [07:10:53] I just forsee I nifty shell, where I can "vi Bob" "rm Foo" "mv Dave Joe", etc. [07:11:01] a* [07:11:12] a specific editor would be nicer [07:11:26] There are many of those [07:11:31] I like the idea of being able to open a page on my laptop, work on it while I'm not connected (traveling, whatever) and then later be able to upload it easily. [07:11:45] I can do that now, kind of, but it involves a lot more steps and juggling files. [07:11:50] Yes, more of the svn approach [07:12:14] It still needs to retrieve it while your'e online thoughk, the difference is that you wouldn't just have to save an offline copy manually [07:12:23] I've started up a few client apps like this, but usually got tired of em after a while :) [07:12:41] yes - of course I get online where i can. [07:12:58] traveling in Indonesia at the moment - don't always have net access. [07:13:12] and sometimes it's super slow. [07:14:53] I'm only semi-geeky, so pardon if I'm slow to pick things up :) [07:15:36] I'd just save the files manually [07:15:55] ideally there'd bee a mediawikia specific editor for all of this [07:16:20] what's a good program though? OpenOffice doesn't have tools to make wikiediting easier... unless there's an add-on. [07:16:59] I haven't been following any [07:17:07] I'm also thinking about what's good for other users (I'm one of the co-founders of Appropedia.org, and trying to make things as accessible as possible, especially for those in the 3rd world) [07:17:14] there are wiki like editors, but none that i've tried for mediawiki [07:17:27] what's appropopedia? [07:17:47] sustainable development wiki... only been going for about 15 months, but taking off. [07:18:41] have you tried any wiki editors that seem useful... assuming you didn't have permanent web access and wanted to edit offline? [07:19:01] (I'm thinking I should check the software in the OLPC project... ) [07:21:07] Is there a straightforward way to debug memcached caching? [07:22:34] When enabling memcached, my site hangs for half a minute or so before displaying anything; it's probably waiting for a timeout, but everything should be configured correctly. [07:23:34] memcached? [07:23:40] you have multiple apache servers? :) [07:24:17] No, I have a single lighttpd server. [07:24:27] :) [07:24:31] then don't bother with memcached/ [07:25:07] intgr: APC-based cache works best [07:25:41] and if you use APC, configure lighty this way: [07:25:41] http://p.defau.lt/?u9haZiGBPLJGmMHo015h3A [07:25:54] Thanks domas. [07:26:20] then.. $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL; [07:26:28] And that's it? [07:26:35] well, APC has to be enabled [07:26:45] APC-backed cache is like... 10x faster than memcached. [07:27:11] I'm using spawn-fcgi, is that okay? [07:28:30] you want PHP to spawn PHP [07:28:37] cause then you have single caching environment [07:30:54] (and conserve quite some memory too) [07:32:09] on the other hand, you can do any way you want :) [07:33:23] php-cgi does not appear to support listening FastCGI on UNIX sockets though... [07:34:11] Which is problematic since I don't want random local users connecting to my PHP backend. [07:39:12] what would be a good IDE for developing in PHP (although I know now that PHP sucks)... Eclipse PDT? how to comfortably debug? Zend debugger? [07:40:32] Real men use debug_print_stacktrace() ;) [07:40:46] backtrace [07:43:20] intgr: you know, i used to write many shell scripts and stuff, only with a simple editor and bash -x (at most)... i realise now how much time I wasted because I didn't have 'good' debugging and coding facilities at hand. now that i have to start a project which involves php scripting, I want to do it right - as comfortable as possible ;) [07:43:28] 03(mod) Template parameters unavailable to parser tags - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 +comment (10mediazilla.20.nickj) [07:44:17] but i guess i'll go over to #php for all that ;) [08:08:45] hello there [08:17:14] Hi, some MediaWikis without query.php and/or api.php, How to get it? [08:17:35] they are using MediaWiki 1.10 [08:17:49] http://ar.jurispedia.org/w/query.php [08:17:55] http://ar.jurispedia.org/w/api.php [08:19:00] sorry, there is http://ar.jurispedia.org/api.php but no http://ar.jurispedia.org/query.php [08:19:17] i'm looking for a way to have my sysadmin user being emailed of new user created, and that these newly created account cannot edit anything until sysadmin confirm the account [08:19:19] any idea? [08:20:44] and I, any idea ;) [08:20:48] Tuxbublin1: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [08:21:21] Tuxbublin1: You might want to search Google before asking stupid questions. [08:23:09] i don't see answer in this page i allready read to my "stupid question" [08:24:05] The 'Restrict account creation' section points to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount [08:24:56] i tried this yesterday [08:25:00] doesn't work [08:25:13] as a user cannot create his own account [08:25:17] So why not start there? Why "doesn't it work"? How "doesn't it work"? [08:25:19] or i didn't get it :/ [08:26:21] intgr, any idea about mine? [08:26:30] OsamaK: No. [08:26:53] Tuxbublin1: We're not #mindreaders, please explain. [08:28:09] intgr: the extension if i understood correctly, completly block account creation, only sysops can ask bureaucrats to make the account or not [08:28:40] No. [08:29:04] Bureaucrats can approve/reject new accoints. [08:29:18] accounts [08:30:09] Tuxbublin1: Did you change your $wgGroupPermissions? [08:30:22] no [08:30:38] ok i think i see, Special:RequestAccount not showed [08:33:07] Again, some MediaWikis without query.php and/or api.php, How to get it? [08:33:23] There is http://ar.jurispedia.org/api.php but no http://ar.jurispedia.org/query.php [08:37:06] OsamaK: Are you sure they're running a recent enough version of MediaWiki? [08:37:33] it's 1.10 [08:37:59] look at this http://ar.jurispedia.org/index.php/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AE%D8%A9 [08:38:12] MediaWiki: 1.10.0 [08:38:35] Well if it reports 404 then they've probably deleted it [08:38:40] intgr: actually only the user asking for account creation receive confirmation email.... My $wgEmergencyContact doesn't :/ [08:39:29] intgr, if someone delete it, how to get it again? [08:39:42] OsamaK: Copy it from a MediaWiki 1.10 distribution [08:39:45] intgr, can I copy it from somewhere for examply [08:39:54] Yes. [08:40:13] intgr, URL? [08:40:30] Download the MediaWiki 1.10 tarball [08:41:04] form where? [08:41:09] it's not my wiki ;) [08:41:23] I have not tried download it [08:41:43] Huh? [08:41:54] You need access to the server to put it there. [08:42:10] Obviously [08:42:18] I know, I'll give it to wiki's owner [08:42:46] lol [08:42:50] happy quit message [08:43:06] :) [08:44:31] Tuxbublin1, do you have URL for download MediaWiki 1.10.0? [08:45:40] not the 1.10.1? [08:46:03] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/ [08:46:11] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.0.tar.gz [08:46:13] :) [08:46:42] does someone around has some knowledge of using Extension:ConfirmAccount?? [08:47:12] it doesn't send emails to sysadmins to specify them that a user as requested an account :( [08:49:16] Tuxbublin1, thanks [08:49:26] is there a special page for listing users by contributions? (i.e. a ranking of sorts) [08:49:28] np [08:49:52] Ace_NoOne: too noob to help you ;) [08:50:17] heh [09:09:36] Tuxbublin1, the missing file is not here : http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.0.tar.gz :( [09:09:45] there is api.php only [09:10:10] OsamaK: i don't know what's your problem actually [09:10:12] I do not need aip.php [09:10:38] Tuxbublin1, look at this wiki http://ar.jurispedia.org/query.php [09:10:56] there do not have query.php [09:11:14] yep [09:11:19] shoudl be one? [09:11:25] I think [09:11:49] not sure [09:12:08] I want to run Autowikibrowser, it does not work without this file [09:13:07] look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#.2B.2B_bug [09:13:22] I must go now, I'll back in 20 min [09:18:53] hey anyone using ConfirmAccount extension here?? [09:25:26] is that me or users in sysops/bureaucrats groups don't receive emails?? [09:42:42] Hello! I put a "name" attribute in a tag in a template, but when I include it, there's no "name" tag in the HTML! [09:42:47] Is it normal? [09:43:56] Does MediaWiki ignore some tags? [09:47:43] is there a list of url parameters that i can provide to Special:Log? [09:48:12] Aviator: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php [09:51:24] it just lists general parameters [09:52:47] «Most special pages have additional parameters, specific to the function they perform. As an example, the parameters for Special:Export are outlined in Manual:Parameters to Special:Export» [09:52:57] it doesn't link other parameters [09:54:10] Aviator: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export this is for export, I'm trying to get the page for Special.Log [09:55:53] Aviator: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query_-_Lists#logevents_.2F_le_.28semi-complete.29 [09:56:46] api.php? [09:57:52] Aviator, choose a log type, user & reason and see the url [09:59:15]