[00:00:13] <_hc> SimonMoon: which setup did you use? [00:01:53] http://www.steverumberg.com/wiki/index.php/WikiHelp [00:02:04] thats the apporach i used, worked best for what i needed [00:02:46] Duesentrieb: I just added a reply to your lockdown extension talk - if you don't want it there, just go knock it off. I'm about to knuckle down and start figuring out FileRepo over the next couple of weeks. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Lockdown [00:02:49] but if i can get everything untangled, and get teh shared pooling going for all wikis in one location, its gonna work pretty good :) [00:04:22] SimonMoon: have you tried using the Farmer extension? [00:04:30] no [00:04:52] <_hc> feltipen: looks like it will be cool, but I am not ready to maintain patches against mediawiki yet, which it says it needs [00:05:13] yeah im trying to install them now, i have NO CLUE how to do it! [00:05:20] it's driving me up the wall haha [00:06:04] why dont you want to add them? Are you weary of the effects they may have on your working copy? [00:08:55] that farmer extension looks very good [00:09:28] i know, i just can't get over this hurdle, gah! [00:09:33] <_hc> feltipen: it's more work to maintain, then if the farmer code changes, it would be more work to upgrade, etc. [00:09:51] <_hc> feltipen: I expect other languages to be added slowly, so I don't need it yet [00:09:52] what kind of maintenance are you referring to? [00:09:53] if ou do the farm right, its ONE upgrade really [00:10:09] you change one set of patched fiels and all wikis use the same files.. [00:10:14] <_hc> feltipen: like upgrading to new versions of mediawiki, etc. [00:10:19] right [00:11:05] hm, do either of you know how to get a patch up? [00:11:39] <_hc> feltipen: you mean add a patch? [00:12:11] <_hc> feltipen: or I should say: apply a patch to mediawiki sources [00:14:41] feltipen: If you are familiar with SVN, you can use it to apply patches. Otherwise, the patch files are just text and you can hand apply them with any standard editor. You'll figure out the syntax pretty quickly. [00:14:58] you don't need svn, just the 'patch' command [00:15:58] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: i have problems with slider in your ogg player (cant slide to any position when playback is running, it always jumps back to start and restart the playback), is it known issue? [00:17:55] Sorry, I was thinking of TortoiseMerge (part of TortoiseSVN). [00:18:09] 03robchurch * r25571 10/trunk/phase3/ (HISTORY RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): [00:18:09] * Bump version to 1.12alpha [00:18:09] * Move old RELEASE NOTES to HISTORY, skeleton for RELEASE NOTES for 1.12 [00:22:01] 03tstarling * r25572 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: addMagicWordsByLang() -- always include english in the fallback chain [00:22:17] _Danny_B_: yes, it's known to me at least [00:22:36] man. [00:22:42] thats so fucked [00:23:16] i have TortoiseSVN [00:23:18] doEdit does not register wgHooks as a global. [00:23:36] i just installed it, but have no idea how to use it to connect to my working copy of mediawiki [00:24:17] so every information on it is lost on calling it even if the calling function does declare it as a global and give it a value [00:24:19] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: what happens if the video has larger dimensions than user has in preferences for picture preview? is it shrinked? [00:24:26] TimStarling: Is it safe for me to start looking at applying Namespace protection to new fileRepo classes? [00:24:48] the generated thumbnail is always the source size, it just uses client-side scaling [00:25:10] jdpond: I suppose so [00:26:03] TimStarling: Thanks for all your work! Congrats on 1.11 and the new FileRepo! [00:26:30] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: still very good job! [00:27:59] not knowing about this ogg-player thing, I just read some parts of "Wikipedia talk:Media", users screaming "VENGEANCE!" for using ogg instead of mp3... sheesh :P [00:29:01] Can someone learn me whu doEdit does not declare wgHooks as a global? [00:29:07] they can go and complain to Frauenhofer for being dickheads [00:30:55] MP3 is old [00:31:18] OGG gives better sound with smaller filesize, why use MP3 at all? [00:31:19] I am fine with Fraunhofer claiming licensing fees for the work they put into researching a new (at that time, revolutinary) method to store audio data [00:31:24] the buzz is all about AAC and WMA and stuff these days [00:31:24] <_Danny_B_> but unfortunately best supported :-/ [00:31:28] I do remember the pre-MP3 times [00:31:42] hahahah [00:31:45] but all that fuzz about ogg on that page is really obnoxious [00:31:49] someone reported brion's 1.11 announcement as UCE [00:32:03] UCE? [00:32:08] spam [00:32:16] heh [00:32:56] unsolicited customer email, or what was the acronym? [00:32:58] anyway, since this ogg player deployment is all about video, it's probably wise stop calling ogg an audio format for now [00:33:22] the audio format is vorbis, the video format is theora [00:33:24] ogg is a container format anyways.. [00:33:26] the player is for ogg [00:33:27] it's cool that you're doing it, makes ogg more popular, helps it to get established [00:33:34] <_Danny_B_> can parser tag names use (pseudo)namespaces? say i have tag with same name as other extension,so could it be like and ? [00:34:02] lch: ogg doesnt really need it. Most games made in the past couple of years are already using ogg extensivly.. [00:34:16] yes, but end-users don't [00:34:20] see talk page [00:34:48] every new file format has to fight against the current "standards" [00:34:52] lch: i bought an mp3 players almost 2 years ago, it can play ogg files, so i dont know why there should be a big uproar :) [00:35:13] we were considered pioneers for using PNG, you know [00:35:20] because it isn't natively handled by windows, I guess [00:35:24] when we started, IE's support was really poor [00:35:27] PNG is awesome [00:35:35] but now it's complete, so maybe we won that battle [00:35:44] <_Danny_B_> is it? [00:35:57] yeah, IE7 has full PNG support, from what I've read [00:35:59] I had one of those O'Reilly books about it in my hands before knowing much about it, and I almost drooled :P [00:36:05] IE6 was pretty close, it was IE5 that was awful [00:36:20] Hmm isnt there still that transparency and gamma correction bug in IE7 for pngs ? [00:36:27] <_Danny_B_> i'd say so [00:36:33] <_Danny_B_> that's why i was asking [00:36:59] what bug? [00:37:14] I thought that bug was in IE6 [00:37:29] not sure, though, never used it [00:37:31] <_Danny_B_> no (or poor) support for transparency - that's what i heard about ie7 [00:37:50] yeah, for some reason I've heard that about a lot of IE versions [00:38:00] but apparently it was only true for like IE 5.5 mac or something [00:38:03] <_Danny_B_> at least not in first release. maybe added in some windows update later :-? [00:38:11] even IE 5 had transparency support in PNGs [00:38:17] on windows [00:38:29] i thought basic transparency was fine, isn't the problem with alpha channels? [00:38:33] <_Danny_B_> yes [00:38:37] <_Danny_B_> semitransparency [00:38:45] and I tested alpha channels in IE6, it worked fine [00:38:52] maybe there's some particular problem though [00:39:00] that leads to this continuning report [00:39:01] I hope webdesigners would just stop supporting all those quirks for long outdated web browsers and move on [00:39:41] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: png alpha could have been workarounded by some htc file [00:39:55] I was using a hand-crafted HTML file [00:40:06] tell people to update, don't do some hacks to get it looking the same under that specific browser version on this exotic OS, etc. [00:40:25] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: therefore you are most probably lucky man ;-) [00:40:37] IMHO you got to work it on at least 90% of the userbase, you are good. [00:41:08] The rest gotta live with some minor ugliness or simply upgrade [00:41:23] <_Danny_B_> hmm, my question rolled out :-/ [00:41:24] <_Danny_B_> can parser tag names use (pseudo)namespaces? say i have tag with same name as other extension,so could it be like and ? [00:43:04] probably not [00:43:07] but who knows/ [00:44:43] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: thought you do ;-) thanks anyway [00:45:14] 03(NEW) Alt. Text in Articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11205 15enhancement; normal; Kate's Tools: General/Unknown; (daniel) [00:46:45] since there are a few more experienced people around now, does anyone have some experiences with adding news to a wiki? [00:48:55] Extension:News [00:49:27] extension allows a custom excerpt from Special:Recentchanges to be included on a wiki page, or to be published as an RSS or Atom feed. [00:49:53] I need something from outside the wiki [00:50:06] The scenario is simple: vbulletin forum is used to post news [00:50:34] i have access to it in every way, RSS feed (that is a bit useless imho), direct database access, or html [00:51:02] I need some customization on the look of its output in either way [00:58:42] SimonMoon: there are several extensions for including rss feeds (they even have their own category on mediawiki.org). ther eare also extensions that can be used to include iframes, or html-snippets from files or a webserver (HTMLets is one of them) [00:58:48] anyway, i'm off to bed [00:59:18] htmlets sounds most promising there... [00:59:34] thanks for the hint. The RSS ones have not produced much ground for cheers here :) [01:07:27] I think that htmlet is perfectly suited for this. I just build the html outside the wiki with a cron job and put them in there with that extension. Thanks a lot for pointing it out! [01:10:38] oh man [01:10:47] im going to shoot myself in the head with this .patch file [01:12:05] 03(mod) Alt. Text in Articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11205 +comment (10cbrown1023) [01:12:12] feltipen, which one is that? [01:12:30] it's a patch file i have to apply to mediawiki for the Farmer extension [01:12:57] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2140&action=view [01:13:23] trying to update from 1.4 to 1.10 everything went fine, put the localsettings.php file back and now i get this when i ran the update script, database worked fine before. MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.text' doesn't exist (chimera)" [01:13:26] of course i dont know the first thing about patches or shell extensions or unix command prompts or anything that would give me a first step to achieving this hapless goal [01:13:34] ah [01:13:55] feltipen, U got an svn checkout of the trunk? or phase3? [01:14:10] dunno what a trunk is, but im guessing it's my working copy of mw [01:14:16] ya [01:14:33] ok, then as far as i know, no i dont... [01:14:40] i downloaded Tortoise SVN though, if that helps [01:14:50] So you're on Windows? [01:14:52] yep [01:15:06] Did Brion give you commit access and you gave him your public key? [01:15:27] i didnt know that was necessary hah [01:15:31] yup [01:15:35] to commit to the SVN [01:15:40] he doesn't want to commit [01:15:46] he wants to apply a patch to his copy of mediawiki [01:15:47] what does he watn to do? [01:15:50] AH [01:16:19] feltipen, so you checked out a working copy using Tortise? Or haven't got that far yet? [01:16:43] i've only installed tortoise and tried to mess around with it a bit, but cant find a way to connect to the remote server [01:17:01] i didnt restart my comp since the install either, dunno if that would affect anything [01:17:08] I'll walk you through it - make a folder on your desktop called like MW SVN or something [01:17:13] thx tim [01:17:17] ok done [01:17:28] right-click on the folder [01:17:55] svn checkout... [01:18:11] then a window will pop up [01:18:15] right? [01:18:18] yep [01:19:04] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [01:19:17] in the repository URL [01:19:40] then click OK [01:19:43] and go get some coffee [01:20:22] heh [01:20:25] Is it checking stuff out? [01:20:29] d/ling [01:20:31] yup [01:20:45] then in the future, just right-click on your folder and click update [01:20:51] and it'll update to the most recent revision [01:21:35] i should do that often? [01:21:41] for sure [01:21:53] whenever you want to see the new files [01:22:14] i wonder how i would've figured this one out [01:22:16] on my own [01:22:33] ;-) by looking at the help files on mw.org. and getting confused a few times. [01:22:48] yeah i did look around here and there, but i guess i didnt land in the right places [01:22:53] man, you should see the headache involved in making tortise do the svn+ssh:// connect for commit. [01:23:02] heh [01:23:23] and some idiot (me) put a password in his private key. So I constantly have to auth. [01:23:39] you can remove the passphrase if you like [01:23:43] ya? [01:23:50] I thought it was part of the pair [01:23:59] no [01:24:02] cool [01:24:06] it just encrypts the key on disk [01:24:10] yay i helped you learn something (: [01:24:22] ya, I have the pk file [01:24:38] completed [01:24:39] the pk file is on multiple computers, etc, etc [01:26:04] right-click on your folder [01:26:12] TortiseSVN>Apply Patch [01:26:18] then choose the patch file [01:26:22] and you're good. [01:27:52] can i get a quick insite if the updated messed up the database [01:28:48] there are 'unresolved conflicts' [01:28:51] when i tried to 'patch all' [01:29:07] that's kind of a vague error [01:29:14] if you click on show log, does it explain? [01:31:55] seems to be unresolved conflict in two files, one is setup.php in includes/, give me a sec to screencap [01:32:28] Well, that is a mighty old patch file [01:33:21] http://www.lostocean.org/conflict.png [01:34:02] also in database.php, but the third file, defaultsettings.php seems alright [01:34:13] lol, one outta 3 [01:34:26] yea it just shows up grey and the others red [01:34:41] yeah, it's mad. [01:34:46] look at that patch file [01:34:57] see at the top it states the revision vs. working copy? [01:35:23] That patch was created on rev. 15780 - we're on 25572 now. [01:35:51] So the file has changed enough to make the patch impossible to apply anymore [01:36:01] you can go back to old revisions of files [01:36:25] hmm [01:36:31] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php?view=log [01:36:35] 10000 revisions since then [01:36:35] wow [01:36:53] Yeah, I don't know much about that extension [01:37:29] if it's like intended to run on a specific revision, you can just find the right revision, check it out (you can checkout a specific revision rather than the HEAD - which is the newest revision) [01:38:19] ;-) I gotta go, I'll be on tomorrow [01:38:49] good luck, have fun pokin around. You can't do any damage over http, so you can click whatever buttons you want and just see what happens. ;-) [01:39:19] hm [01:39:22] thanks again tim [01:39:33] anytime. [01:39:39] so i just upload the patched copy once it's done [01:39:52] well, you would like, checkout the right revision [01:40:02] yaryarr, hopefully i'll get to that point [01:40:04] (of the whole MW phase3 folder) [01:40:23] but yeah, once you get your patch to apply, you're golden. then your file is patched and you copy it to wherever [01:40:53] I'd advise checking out that core revision (that's listed in the patch) and then applying the patch - just so you can see how it's supposed to work [01:40:56] ;-) later. [01:41:05] cya [01:42:23] feltipen: i would not use that extension. [01:42:35] You end up with a TON of tables inside the db [01:44:03] you tried it already? [01:45:06] >.> [01:45:19] well i intend to have about 100-200 separate wikis in the same db [01:45:27] so i assume that'll be a whackload of tables [01:46:46] would you suggest your method otherwise [01:47:05] wiki 1.10.1 has 34 tables [01:47:16] 3400 tables for 100 wikis, good luck woring with that [01:47:24] in ONE db ... [01:47:50] Better idea would be to use seperate dbs [01:48:23] i can use separate dbs in one url right? [01:48:44] Depends on what you mena by that [01:48:52] i dont want to buy 100 urls [01:49:04] i think you mean domains, not urls [01:49:09] sorry [01:49:11] haha [01:49:15] doesnt matter [01:49:23] newbish [01:49:26] only thing that does matter is if your hosting allows that any dbs [01:49:33] oh right [01:51:33] i should contact dreamhost [01:51:42] which packeg you have from them ? [01:52:21] My Crazy Domain Insane [01:52:23] hmm well as it looks, they have unlimited databases for any of the 4 packages [01:52:50] good [01:53:46] i wonder if it'll bog the servers down and cause each wiki to be really slow [01:53:51] with so many tables in one db [01:53:55] So you are good there also unlimited "subdomains", god i wish they would stop using that term [01:54:36] Well, haveing lots of tables in one db usually makes not a large difference [01:55:06] What it does do, is make recovery, backup and general maintance easier [01:55:30] gtk [01:56:55] hm [01:57:02] so if you can, dont do the one DB thing, thats an accident waiting to happen :) [01:57:11] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9426 (10N/A) [01:57:44] especially if they're high traffic [01:57:47] i assume [01:59:00] but having multiple dbs poses a different problem for me [01:59:17] how to access them from an external web service through api [02:00:00] what you mean? [02:00:03] phpmyadmin? [02:00:17] facebook [02:00:20] app [02:01:15] to edit and create wikis [02:02:21] i guess it wont be that difficult as long as the app can access the subdirectory [02:02:57] (i wonder if 'subdirectory' is on your list of lousy terms) [02:05:33] now i just have to get this thing working [02:05:43] finding revisions [02:07:00] or if i want to make a db per wiki [02:07:38] whatever, i'll check that out through dreamhost myself [02:07:45] that'll take a while lol [02:07:51] manually one by one [02:09:19] subdirectory is a correct term :) [02:09:51] hi all, anyone here familiar Parser.php [02:09:55] You make a facebook app for creating wikis? [02:09:58] I am attempting to convert mediawiki to HTML [02:10:18] yeah it's made already, i just have to get the wiki up and running to complete the project [02:10:22] sour1: that is being heard here about once a day :) [02:10:50] sour1: there is no such thing as "include that file, call that function and it works". The parser is one big beast. [02:12:44] hahaha excellent, so i take it theres a wiki on it?? :P [02:12:44] sour1: sorry, there isnt. What is it exactly you want to do? Most things people want to do with this have other, better solutions :) [02:12:44] SimonMoon: the project i am working on would probably sound crazy, but i like large processing jobs... i am basically traslating one wiki from one language to another [02:12:47] last project that i done was DNS'ing 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 [02:13:02] does the update process change the database when you run update.php? [02:14:28] SimonMoon: I'm up to the point where I can retain all internal links from the langlinks database, and can convert it from one language to another, just need to display it nicely from mediawiki markup to HTML.. [02:15:56] Jasin: Yes [02:16:40] sour1: So, you want to take the wiki content, have it rendered as HTML and then translate that html ? [02:18:37] i updated from 1.4 to 1.10 ran the update and now i get MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.text' doesn't exist (chimera)" [02:18:44] and it worked fine before that [02:19:00] SimonMoon, correct, I am just back tracking my way through again now, i think i may have it sussed. [02:19:13] Jasin: Do you have another way to check the db and see if there IS a text table? [02:19:29] not at this moment [02:19:40] but the wiki was up and running before the update [02:19:51] same localsettings as before [02:19:52] sour1: why not take the wiki text, trnslte that and stick it back into another wiki? [02:20:03] Jasin: That doesnt mean a thing :) [02:20:20] Jasin: is your database called "wikidb" ? [02:20:21] wouldn't it? isnt that what stores all the pages? [02:20:48] should be, (i didn't update it before this time) so i made no changes to mysql [02:21:18] simon I have my own smarty templates which I'd like to use [02:22:11] ok heres the thing, when i type in diffrent accounts etc, i get the website saying that the .text doesn't exist, if i put what was with the 1.4 i get a 500 internal error [02:22:23] Jasin: If your database is called "wikidb" then get phpmyadmin (php script) and connect yto that db with it, check if the table exists. [02:22:50] thanks ill check it out [02:23:24] sour1: You know that you can edit pretyt much the same stuff with the MW template ysstem, roght? It is essentally the php with HTML mixed in, so what you can do in smarty is possible in there, heck you oculd even put smarty inside of this with it. [02:24:16] Jasin: It looks like the table is gone, why i wouldnt know though. I hope you have a backup, like it alwyas says before an upgrade. This table contains actually all the text content for all the pages [02:24:36] yes we have a backup, just dont know how it disapeared [02:25:06] get phpmyadmin, check if the db really is gone or if it has been renmaed or something [02:25:23] Then put on the old backup again, run the update and see if it happens again [02:25:42] upping phpmyadmin now [02:26:21] SimonMoon, thanks for your help, i'll battle this Parser class a bit more before i decide to hack mediawiki [02:27:09] sour1: your best shot there is to essentially include the whole mediawiki for the parsing [02:27:48] and then maybe use output bufeering if you want to be lazy, or catch the output of the template before it happens [02:28:57] that's an idea, seems like alot of overhead tho [02:29:22] Well if i get your idea right, its not somethig you run all the time every day [02:29:49] So dpeends really on whats more important, fast a solution, or a fast solution :) [02:31:43] yeah but then i need to install all the dumps and do alot of farting around it seems :/ [02:34:38] oh i found a: class RawPage { [02:51:13] ok getting somewhere, i get returned an array from the parser object, it's just comlpetely empty tho. [02:56:45] 03(NEW) api.php should honor maxlag - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (cbeckhorn) [03:00:18] 03(mod) api.php should honor maxlag - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 +comment (10lilewyn) [03:01:05] this Parser class lies :( [03:01:15] The parser is a beast [03:01:41] I think whoever gets the idea to make Phase4 and rebuild that thing will go stark crazy and die [03:01:52] print_r ( $f->Parse ($contents, &$mTitle,$options)); [03:02:04] it's not even listening to $contents, tries to access the db [03:02:11] which is empty [03:02:26] maybe i should populate it [03:04:39] i'll do that later, i think i am on the right track tho, mTitle is an object in includes/Title.php [03:05:05] hence why i was getting errors, i just declared it as an ordinary string [03:09:56] Well if you get some insights, it would be more than welcome here :) [03:10:47] what are you after? [03:11:25] SimonMoon: i.e., what do you need insight on? [03:11:35] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10tomchiukc) [03:16:41] *chat-de-plafond tickles Pathoschild [03:17:50] o.O [03:20:46] 03(NEW) Articles with Extended character titles cannot edit a section only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 major; high; MediaWiki: Page editing; (tomchiukc) [04:11:59] 03tlaqua * r25573 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: [04:11:59] Refining fix for bug 10836 - taking care of unintended behavior. [04:11:59] Added EditPage::pseudoParseSectionAnchor function to mimic parsing for section headings. [04:11:59] Now preloaded section header text /* ... */ is also passed through the pseudoParseSectionAnchor function to correct section linking in recent changes. [04:11:59] Post-save Section anchors are also pseudoParsed. [04:12:03] This should take care of most of the section anchor issues related to embeded wikitext in section headings. [04:12:51] pseudoParseSectionAnchor? [04:12:57] *VoiceOfAll becomes scared by that name [04:13:03] I was pretty proud of it [04:13:20] but technically... that's what it does. ;-) [04:14:17] 03(FIXED) Change the summary on creating of new section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10836 +comment (10t.laqua) [04:15:00] doh. left a comment in there. [04:15:05] *TimLaqua mutters. [04:15:22] yes, no comments are allowed in MW code [04:15:30] ;-) debug comment, silly. [04:16:20] 03tlaqua * r25574 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: (m) Removing debug comment. [04:17:12] wikitext in section headings... just silly. ;-) [04:17:30] *TimLaqua grins at Martinp23 [05:08:12] does anyone know, what encoding MW dumps are in? [05:09:11] err... exports [05:10:26] UTF-8 [05:10:53] Ahh, thank you! [05:48:02] So, I am writing a screenscraper to edit articles. And MW is not sending me any cookies as it should. Is this dependent on user-agent, or what? [05:49:21] I can't say for sure, but, I don't think so [06:02:26] brion_away? [06:10:07] <_wooz> lo [06:24:23] *sour1 cries [06:24:44] heh [06:28:24] i declare war against Parser.php [06:28:34] welcome to the club. [06:28:41] what're you trying to do, anyways? [06:28:49] can you do it by screen-scraping? [06:29:50] umm i could possibly do that, I like doing strange projects like DNS'ing 0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255 [06:30:03] and yesterday i woke up and decided i wanted to translate the entire german wikipedia to english [06:30:31] i have everything setup, apart from mediawiki->HTML [06:30:44] ... mediawiki to html? [06:30:48] mediawiki already does that. [06:30:54] yeah i know that [06:31:02] i am using the parser class [06:31:15] but for some reason it isn't liking me [06:31:25] can you just insert your wikitext into an article, then do a web request and scrape it? [06:31:41] there's always api.php :) [06:32:01] yeah i could do that i guess, alot of overhead tho [06:32:10] *U_SQL shrugs [06:32:11] api.php? [06:32:18] mm, i can look into that [06:32:22] 03raymond * r25575 10/trunk/extensions/PdfHandler/ (8 files): [06:32:22] * Add function for page option ([[Image:nams.pdf|page=x]]) [06:32:22] * Naming convention [06:32:23] sour1: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php [06:32:31] i think i explored the api/ folder for a few things, figured it was complicated [06:33:00] that's what I use in my mw classes :) [06:33:20] it's not really that bad, depending on the language you're using [06:33:35] PHP !!!!! [06:33:41] hah, me too :) [06:33:42] 03raymond * r25576 10/trunk/extensions/PdfHandler/PdfHandler.i18n.php: re-adding nl-translation [06:36:29] U_SQL this looks promising. [06:37:17] actually you know what, it would make more sense for me to use this. [06:39:41] sour1: Heh, that's what I figured out, eventually, too :) [06:39:52] i can't seem to work out how to get the article contents tho [06:39:59] sec [06:40:12] as soon as I get a free console... [06:40:24] *U_SQL has 15 ssh sessions open, all busy... [06:40:28] thanks U_SQL [06:40:50] i am the same, i have 2 22inch widescreen monitors, each with atleast 10 putty's all over the place [06:42:06] here's how I do it: [06:42:08] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/73473 [06:42:36] it's pretty dirty, but, it works :) [06:42:52] haha cool [06:42:56] Serialized php, basically outputs it to an array() [06:43:06] yup i saw that, i like ! [06:43:11] heh [06:43:29] I'm hoping to get off my ass, and, start a sf.net project, for my framework... [06:46:01] sour1: hmm, revised to include config.php http://mediawiki.pastey.net/73474 [06:47:59] haha cool [06:48:05] thanks u_sql, you're a champion [06:49:08] notta problem :) [06:56:23] DOES anyone have any idea how to edit below the search box (edit the toolbox) generally using wikimedia software? [06:57:48] hello? [06:58:46] hype: Not something simple to do [06:58:59] hype: recall there was some discussion on the support desk [06:59:13] hype: check there. It will probably be on one of the archive pages. [06:59:24] ok thanks [06:59:42] hype: there was one recently, that doesn't have any help (which I proposed a stupid solution that doesn't work), but pretty sure there is one earlier [07:15:30] Hi. I have a problem when updateing to rc1: Fatal error: Call to a member function addGroup() on a non-object in /home/pierre/public_html/wiki.archlinux.de/maintenance/deleteDefaultMessages.php on line 19 [07:16:10] I think this is cauesd by the AuthPlugin which forbis the creation of new users. [07:23:21] Hi, I'm getting a strange error. When I try to move a page, both the original page and the new name get broken. I get a Database error from MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert reporting a MySQL error 1062: Duplicate entry. Is anyone familiar with this? [07:23:44] (this database error comes when I try to access either page) [07:26:43] shouldn't happen, mmm [07:27:00] can you try 'TRUNCATE objectcache' on your database and see what happens then? [07:27:09] sure [07:28:38] I created Test1, then moved it to Test2. Now Test2 works and Test1 automatically redirects to Test2, which I guess is the default behavior. [07:28:46] so it seems to have fixed it [07:29:12] is my wikiuser missing a SQL privilege? [07:29:24] my business model i just put together includes coke and whores [07:29:26] boss loved it [07:29:27] client loved it [07:29:29] the business world rocks [07:33:36] Hello: Does anyone have any idea what specific file I need to edit to change what goes in or around the toolbox on the sidebar? [07:37:11] Thanks for the workaround... any idea about a permanent fix? I seem to get similar errors whenever I try to edit the same page more than once. [07:37:35] ./includes/GlobalFunctions.php:function wfMkdirParents( $fullDir, $mode = 0777 ) { [07:38:02] anyone? [07:38:30] hype: I think that stuff gets put in the toolbox from all over. [07:38:33] Am I the only person to think that defaulting to insecure is a bad idea? [07:38:56] intgr: put it in bugzilla or it'll get lost. [07:40:04] i see [07:40:27] how about just placing a new set of links under search button? [07:41:21] hype: i don't really know anything, but if you didn't mind it being in the navigation box instead, it would be trivial. [07:43:00] well i actually had a relatively big set of links and i didn't want to push down the search box too far [07:44:23] ? [07:49:36] domas: I've kludged a fix by adding a function truncateobjectcache to SqlBagOStuff which just issues the query, and then calling it between delete() and _doinsert() in the set() function. Should I submit some sort of bug report? I don't have the slightest idea what's different about my machine that would cause this to show up when it doesn't anywhere else, so I don't know how to reproduce... [07:49:38] ...it. Is there a good way to figure this out? [07:49:43] 03proes * r25577 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (WikiDataAPI.php WikiDataTables.php): Also take $wgDefaultClassMids into account when filtering edit page. [07:53:24] well, you're dropping complete cache that way [07:53:29] which isn't very sane solution [07:53:32] aha [07:53:34] kupopo: which version do you have that behavior with? [07:54:11] hello, is there an extension that adds the same functionality of collapsable navboxes as in wikipedia? [07:54:19] 1.8.4 - i guess it's pretty old [07:54:53] (it's the latest "stable" version in gentoo) [07:56:09] i am referring to what appears in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NavFrame [07:56:25] Wiredtape: You don't need an extension, just some custom JavaScript. [07:57:14] intgr, well, i added the js and css from common.js and common.css from wikipedia, but perhaps im missing some of it... [07:57:25] so for now i still can't get it to work.. [07:58:09] Did you refresh with F5? [07:58:19] i did.. [07:59:05] Does your site include common.js by default? [07:59:24] Question-time: I can't set up a bot on my home PC. Can one be set up strictly on a web interface? [07:59:52] intgr, is it something i would change in localsettings? if so, than I didn't change it.. [08:00:47] I don't know, but my MediaWiki page does not include common.js by default. [08:00:55] So you probably need to change something. [08:01:21] ok, let me check. thank you. [08:02:43] domas: new version works fine. I'll go talk to the gentoo people. [08:03:13] such bugs don't live in our codebase for too long [08:03:14] (1.10.0) [08:03:22] thank you much [08:03:29] 1.11 is going to be released in few days [08:04:17] kupopo: Just use /etc/portage/package.keywords [08:05:14] intgr: that's what I did - but it seems like the stable version isn't quite so stable [08:06:04] intgr, i can't find something that tells me of a $wgcommonjs = on.. is there one? [08:06:46] Don't ask me. [08:06:51] :) [08:07:46] Wiredtape: why would you need it? [08:07:53] Wiredtape: just edit Mediawiki:Monobook.js [08:07:56] or whichever [08:08:48] {waits} [08:09:23] domas, well, i just found it, $wgUseSiteJs is default set to true... which enables common.js... - which means the js itself isn't complete... (when i know it's complete ill put it into the skin...) [08:13:30] No bot experts about? [08:13:56] how would you call the {{...}} tags? Macros? Functions? [08:19:10] templates? [08:19:50] I thought they were functions, but I'm not 100% on that. [08:22:06] afaik {{xxx}} are templates... [08:23:08] Right; {{ }} signifies a template, but I believe functions are how they're called (what makes them work). [08:30:07] http://www.juffo.org/stuff/secure_directory_modes.patch <-- does this patch look good? [08:32:38] intgr: Did you craft that? [08:32:48] Sasoriza: Yes. [08:32:57] i juste moved a mediawiki website from one server to another and now i get infinite redirection without the mediawiki engine noticing [08:33:15] googling and greping through the source don't give any hint [08:33:24] any idea ? http://wiki.fede-ulg.org/ [08:33:41] thanks Wiredtape and Sasoriza [08:35:05] intgr: When did you come up with that? Any bugs? [08:35:20] The bug is that I don't want people replacing my images with goatse. [08:36:14] what's wrong with goatse? LOL... jk [08:36:17] ;) [08:37:03] Ok, i got it to work, if anyone wants to add the "NavFrame" thing to their wikis they are welcome to look at my commons... www.wiredtape.com [08:37:04] one moment, I'll format that patch [08:37:11] I wonder how many shared hosting servers actually still rely on the flawed open_basedir model for security. [08:39:31] Does anyone know where that special characters extension is on MW? Can't find the damn thing. (Not CharInsert.) [08:40:49] Sasoriza, I am not sure but i think i saw it in common.js (search char) [08:41:45] 04(REOPENED) API does not return an edit token for nonexistent pages when logged in - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10898 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [08:46:28] (Patch updated slightly) [08:46:51] Also, I'm not sure what to do about some maintainance/ scripts, those seem to be chmodding stuff to 0777 as well. [08:47:12] I don't suppose they attempt to include LocalSettings.php? [08:50:15] Huh, the MediaWiki bugzilla displays e-mail addresses without obfuscation even when not logged in? [08:50:25] No wonder I'm getting 3000 spams per month! [09:00:02] 03(NEW) Obfuscating bugzilla e-mail addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11208 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (marti) [09:00:26] Sasoriza: Did you have an opinion about the patch? [09:00:36] Or should I go and submit it? [09:00:42] (I updated it a little) [09:02:24] 03(mod) Option to mask email addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9872 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:02:25] 14(DUP) Obfuscating bugzilla e-mail addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11208 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:03:56] intgr: Sorry, my brain's going a hundred different directions. Seems useful; I might have used this a few months ago. Haven't been able to think much on it beyond that. [09:04:20] Sasoriza: Okay, thanks. [09:06:17] Although I do wonder how certain hosts might feel about it. [09:06:56] mornin [09:10:15] Well, insecure by default is not an option. [09:10:22] 03(NEW) Image directories vulnerable to other local users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11209 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (marti) [09:11:30] <_Danny_B_> is there any option in localsettings to turn the redlinks if image doesn't exist) off? [09:13:55] anyone know how they write regular text (while still having it parsed) in a template, without it being included into articles that use it? [09:14:41] [09:14:52] Just look at the source of those templates. [09:15:40] _Danny_B_: Depends where you're at... what wiki & LocalSettings.php you're using. As a default, that doesn't exist, although an extension might exist that allows that. [09:16:05] If you have access to the database, you can delink certain images. [09:16:11] <_Danny_B_> meant default instalation [09:16:28] Not by default, no. [09:16:52] intgr, i tried, but then the text gets parsed as if it's a template itself.. (it doesn't transfer though) - so for instance if i use {{bla |foo=1 |foo2=2}} than it makes the template... [09:18:53] i'm trying to conditionally include templateB inside templateA, by using #if. my issue is that templateB's name shows up in the "templates used on this page" list , which would be fine, but templateB's name is not static, its built based on some templateA parameters [09:19:09] Wiredtape: What do you mean, as if it's a template itself? [09:21:17] Damn it, this is driving me crazy. [09:21:39] intgr, im trying to write a "how to use example" for the template... so i wrote "{{tempname | var1=1 }}" so of course this gets parsed and becomes whatever the template {{tempname}} is... [09:22:04] I know there's an extension to allow +, =, & in a title... I just can't find it. [09:22:09] You mean {{tempname}} ? [09:22:51] Wiredtape feels dumb :) [09:22:53] Although people on Wikipedia normally use {{tl|tempname}} which also links the template name to its page (but {{tl}} is just another template using ). [09:23:07] thanks... [09:24:42] Or [[:Template:Template]], maybe? [09:30:16] Have there been any extensions to Extension:CharInsert? [09:31:24] <_Danny_B_> imagelinks table contains links to all images even to non-existing if linked from article? [09:40:29] _Danny_B_: If you mean in mw_imagelinks, then yes. [10:30:01] 03mkroetzsch * r25578 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryPrinters.php: typo in timeline printer [10:39:27] 03mkroetzsch * r25579 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryPrinters.php: Fixed another bug in timelinestart/-end parameter [10:41:57] 03proes * r25580 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (4 files): [10:41:57] * Solved bug with option attribute values (attribute drop down didn't show options) [10:41:57] * Next step in cleaning up edit page: property to column filters are taken into account now [11:01:51] hello everyone [11:02:42] can you pleas tell me where to look for public pgp keys that i can use to verify mediawiki download files? [11:03:27] I don't think they exist. [11:03:38] I can, of course, tell you what the correct md5sums are, if you like. [11:06:26] so what's the use of .sig files in download directories, if there's no associated public key? [11:07:27] my problem is that in 1.10 branch download directory there's no md5sums.txt file like it was present in 1.9 branch for example [11:08:07] so the only way to verify files is to check those pgp signatures and so far i know to do that i need a public key [11:08:19] brion vibber's public key i guess [11:09:13] I can throw you together an md5sums.txt, if you like [11:10:42] but how can I trust you, an anonymous irc user it will be the right one? [11:10:56] 03(mod) api.php should honor maxlag - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11206 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:10:58] well, I am a developer :) [11:11:24] ok, but how can I be sure it's true :) [11:11:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers [11:11:37] <_Danny_B_> who's not? ;-) [11:12:06] 03(NEW) Linking to Simple English Wikipedia statistics - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11210 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (huji.huji) [11:14:01] wait, what the hell [11:14:03] flyingparchment (the one she's using at the time of writing) [11:14:09] I could swear river was male. [11:14:10] why isn't this md5sums.txt for 1.10 branch in the download directory? [11:14:19] *werdna shrugs [11:14:22] I'll let brion know [11:14:28] by the way, 1.11.0 is coming out in a few days [11:17:02] werdna, good news [11:19:11] woot 1.11! [11:19:41] :) is there a list of the different changes between 1.10 and 1.11? [11:19:47] README? [11:20:15] but 1.11 isn't out, so no readme? [11:20:45] ok werdna if you cannot put this md5 file in download directory, could you just give me the md5 sum for [11:21:02] 1.10.1.tar.gz ? [11:21:10] Wiredtape: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/phase3/README?view=markup [11:21:24] alex78931: I haven't made that file - I'd just be downloading it from the website. [11:21:25] All, I was just thinking of a Special:Pageswithoutinterwiki page. I have the required code, just wanted to ask you for comments about the idea [11:21:38] NotAMused, thank you. [11:22:29] werdna: from what address? [11:23:10] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.0.tar.gz [11:25:04] can I trust the md5 sum given by brion in this message: [11:25:20] NotAMused, Wiredtape: change notes are actually in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?view=markup [11:25:23] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2007-July/000064.html [11:25:43] that's the one [11:26:40] Duesentrieb, thx [11:27:15] alex78931: you can trust brion. you can verify the mail against brion's public key. [11:28:18] 03catrope * r25581 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php: API: Really fixing bug 10898 this time [11:29:18] duesentrieb: well that's exactly my problem i was talking about a while ago, namely: i have NOT got brion's public key! [11:29:29] 03(FIXED) API does not return an edit token for nonexistent pages when logged in - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10898 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:29:52] alex78931: gpg --search-keys brion vibber [11:30:35] mucias gracias Dusesentrieb, i'll try this way :) [11:30:37] alex78931: the key doesn't seem to be registered for brion@wikimedia.org but only for brion@pobox.com - perhaps ask brion about it when i gets here [11:31:39] alex78931: i can verify the mail fine against they key for brion@pobox.com (one of the two, Primary key fingerprint: 4412 76E9 CCD1 5F44 F6D9 7D18 C119 E1A6 4D70 938E) [11:32:21] he seems to be using the one from brion@pobox.com, the ID matches [11:33:15] thanx a lot, Duesentrieb [11:44:44] 03(FIXED) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:49:33] 03(mod) Fix fragment identifiers in links to sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5019 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:03:36] wow 5019 is a mess. [12:04:18] hiya TimLaqua :) [12:04:27] mornin' [12:05:36] hi. after an mysql upgrade to v5.x i had the db broken, at least one table i had to setup again manually [12:05:48] cause sql repair didnt work. [12:05:54] Quick question; Is it possible to move mediawiki from one distro to another? As in Fedora core 6 to freebsd 6. If so will I need to know/do any thing special? or is every thing covered in the walkthrough? [12:06:32] objectcache table. Now RecentChanges dont work anymore and page is not displayed refreshed/updated in browser [12:06:47] what can i do about this issue? [12:07:55] TimLaqua_sleepin you fixed a bug last night that's been around since 2005 [12:08:14] collateral fix. ;-) [12:08:27] Yeah [12:08:39] and I got to make a super cool function name. [12:09:14] I originally just wanted to do the new editsection links [12:09:32] then Martinp23 reported that it produced malformed links when... wikitext was in the heading! [12:09:58] so that made my fix look silly - - can't have that. ;-) [12:10:01] lol [12:10:17] I totally understand why it wasn't fixed [12:10:22] The only things that break right now are identical headers [12:10:40] yeah, how does the parser handle that? [12:10:43] Like when there are two headers called 'ABC', the second will have ABC_2 as an anchor [12:10:52] But edit forms just redirect to #ABC [12:10:55] yup. there's one more 'broken' think [12:11:00] As do edit summaries et al [12:11:05] Only the TOC gets it right [12:11:17] External links now work half: [12:11:27] If you enter [URL] which transltates to [1] or [2] depending on the number of links in the page - it doesn't work either [12:11:29] [http://www.example.com Look here] works (#Look_here) [12:11:41] Yeah, I tested that too [12:11:55] And [http://www.example.com] should be either #[1] or #[http://www.example.com] [12:12:06] Once again, EditPage disagrees with itself there [12:12:12] Yeah. [12:12:43] to fix the [http://www.ex.com] and identical section header name issues, you woul dhave to parse the entire article [12:12:55] or at least be clever about looking at the article. [12:13:08] because both are derivitaves of the current article state [12:13:34] I'd bet money both would/should be closed as WONTFIX [12:13:43] TimLaqua as for the extlink thing, maybe the anchor should just be #[http://www.ex.com] rather than #[1] [12:13:51] I think it should [12:13:56] TOC can show [1] as header and link to #[ex.com] [12:13:59] BUT - that means changing hte parser. [12:14:10] The way it produces anchors, yeah [12:14:24] But like I said last night, producing anchors should really be centralized [12:14:32] So that EditPage and Parser use the same function [12:14:43] I really don't understand why we use that [1] [2] logic. [12:14:47] RoanKattouw: {{sofixit}} [12:14:48] ;-) [12:14:51] lol [12:15:07] TimLaqua is the better one to do that [12:15:12] He's got the experience ;) [12:15:43] RoanKattouw, yeah, if I work on it more and branch out to Parser, I'll just move pseudoParseSectionAnchor (awesome) to GlobalFuncs and make it consistant. [12:16:05] I looked at Simmetrical's original patch - he went to war with MW on that one. [12:16:05] And as for the double sections, there's another fundamental problem: if you edit #ABC_2, the edit summary's still /* ABC */ and will inevitably link to #ABC_2 [12:16:10] lol [12:16:23] But the identical thing's a real bitch [12:16:31] is it real common? [12:16:52] 'Cause if you do /* ABC 2 */, the edit summary text will be wrong (->ABC 2 rather than ->ABC) [12:16:53] No [12:17:01] WONTFIX! [12:17:03] Links in sections are way more common [12:17:41] BTW exactly what goes through wfPseudoParseSectionAnchor (nice name) then? Edit summaries also? [12:17:46] I'll look into changing the section naming/anchors for the headings. The problem is that headings get parsed just like everything else. [12:18:29] well, new edit section summaries (for new section links), and the text between /* ... */ that gets preloaded when you edit a section [12:19:04] Oh right [12:19:04] Can someone help me out with copyright stuff... what do you do if someones changed the licencing from GDFL to PD? [12:19:07] Forgot it only does pseudo-parse [12:19:11] anything that calls EditPage::sectionAnchor gets passed through the pseudoParse as well. (yeah, some things - 1 that I know of 1 gets double-parsed.) [12:19:13] yup [12:19:14] Manticore what's PD? [12:19:26] public domain [12:19:29] Pseudo-parse means only text, no HTML, right [12:19:30] loading up the whole parser and going to town would be quite dangerous under high volume. [12:19:30] ? [12:19:32] Oh [12:20:08] Well Manticore IANAL but since PD is less restrictive than GDFL, I don't think it makes much of a difference to you [12:20:25] The license-changer and the author are the same guy, right? Or aren't they? [12:20:34] not the same author [12:20:42] copyright confuses me. [12:20:52] So Alice releases it under the GDFL and Bob makes it PD? [12:21:00] one user has taken GDFL content from several wikis and put them on his own as PD [12:21:03] Alice sues Bob :P [12:21:07] yes [12:21:12] AFAIK he can't do that [12:21:35] I'd have to look up the GFDL (don't know it that well), but I was under the impression it doesn't allow that kind of skullduggery [12:22:14] you can't do it [12:22:40] I'm not Bob :P [12:23:04] Alice = several wikis and Bob = one user in this case right? [12:24:25] yes [12:24:38] Alice = Wikia, Wikipedia, Meta; IIRC [12:26:02] You may copy and distribute the Document in any medium, either commercially or noncommercially, provided that this License, the copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to the Document are reproduced in all copies, [12:26:07] Verbatim from the GFDL [12:26:19] Bob clearly hasn't done that [12:27:09] My recommendation would be to inform Bob that he's violating the GFDL [12:27:16] Maybe he just didn't know [12:31:02] 03proes * r25582 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (OmegaWikiEditors.php WikiDataAPI.php): Further clean up of edit page: Empty pop-ups are now hidden. [12:41:03] thanks for the advice RoanKattouw :) [12:41:11] np [12:45:28] hi folks! [12:45:46] Hi [12:46:39] my installation of mediawiki gets stuck in a cyclic redirect to Main_Page [12:47:01] chakie_work what are your $wgArticlePath and $wgScript ? [12:47:07] You can find them in LocalSettings.php [12:47:08] ie browsing to the index page redirects to Main_Page [12:47:11] let me see [12:47:31] $wgArticlePath = "$wgScript/$1"; [12:47:42] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath/index.php"; [12:47:56] $wgScriptPath = ? [12:48:09] wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; [12:48:14] Right [12:48:23] this is an installation that has worked ok for months [12:48:27] Is your installation in /wiki? I.e. are your PHP files there? [12:48:33] but yesterday i copied it to another server [12:48:36] yes [12:48:44] Hmm should work [12:48:49] it did [12:48:52] What exactly happens then? [12:49:05] From / you go to /wiki/index.php/Main_Page and then what [12:49:08] the browser gets the redirect, gets the page, gets the redirect etc [12:49:16] i see no index page at all [12:49:19] Where does it redirect to then? [12:49:29] the browser stops after some tries [12:49:35] wget does 20 [12:49:36] I mean if it goes in circles, you have a --> b and b --> a right? What are a and b? [12:49:55] seens like / -> Main_Page -> MP -> MP [12:50:02] MP? [12:50:06] main_page [12:50:12] Oh Main_Page redirects to itself? That's weird... [12:50:18] yeah [12:50:31] Try to go to /wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage [12:50:36] What does it say there? [12:50:40] chakie_work: double-redirects shouldn't work.. [12:50:41] ie i browse to /wiki and get s Main_Page recursion [12:50:54] NotAMused these are server-level redirects, not wiki-level [12:50:58] I know [12:51:01] ah [12:51:06] Try to go to /wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage [12:51:09] What's on that pagE? [12:51:12] The requested URL /wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage was not found on this server. [12:51:27] Sorry /wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Mainpage my fault [12:52:06] same [12:52:16] Found a cyclic link in http://smultronnet.virtual34.nebula.fi/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [12:52:48] what i've done is copied a working installation to a temporary server. same database and database params [12:52:55] Weird [12:53:13] so the installation now works under a different domain name [12:53:48] the redirect seems to come from ./includes/Wiki.php [12:53:51] Hmm [12:53:59] function preliminaryChecks ( &$title, &$output, $request ) { [12:54:03] Have you set the cookie stuff in LocalSettings.php right [12:54:05] ? [12:54:10] chakie_work: set $wgServer and $wgServerName as appropriate [12:54:11] sorry [12:54:13] from: [12:54:16] function initializeSpecialCases ( &$title, &$output, $request ) { [12:54:19] Run through LocalSettings.php for anything that doesn't seem right [12:54:28] RoanKattouw: i've done that [12:54:32] Duesentrieb: ok, let me see [12:54:57] chakie_work: it's not there per default. generally, automatic detection works. but your problem sounds like it doesn't in your case [12:54:59] Duesentrieb: they are not set in LocalSettings at all [12:55:14] i'll set them from DefaultSettings [12:55:54] could this be relates to some apache virtualhost setting or similar? [12:55:56] set $wgServerName to your domain name, and $wgServer = $wgProto.'://' . $wgServerName; [12:56:02] chakie_work: yes. [12:56:03] as this is at a web hotel [12:56:15] let me test [12:57:38] same cyclic redirect [12:57:39] with: [12:57:40] $wgServerName = 'smultronnet.virtual34.nebula.fi'; [12:57:40] $wgServer = $wgProto.'://' . $wgServerName; [12:58:10] perhaps the location of those settings in LocalSettings matters, let me check to see that wgProto is set [12:58:47] http [13:01:28] oh man, the pastebin is asking hard questions :) [13:02:43] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/73486 [13:02:48] that's a wget run [13:03:27] 03proes * r25583 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Editor.php: Compress RecordListEditors when there is only one option to expand/collapse [13:03:33] broken redirect rules? [13:03:47] Check server config and .htaccess files [13:04:06] i have no .htaccess files and i can't access the server config... [13:04:26] only .htaccess files in effect are a few of mediawiki's [13:04:34] but they are in subdirs [13:04:56] Look through them to see if anything's wrong there [13:05:26] nothing more than "Deny from all" in them [13:05:44] to disallow someone to browse into includes/ etc [13:05:56] Right [13:06:29] You did set $wgServer et al right? [13:06:30] i *assume* that once i give the web hotel a green light they will change that ugly domain name in dns to our real one [13:06:40] and then it'll work [13:07:02] $wgServerName = 'smultronnet.virtual34.nebula.fi'; [13:07:03] $wgServer = $wgProto.'://' . $wgServerName; [13:07:11] mw should detect redirect loop [13:07:13] set after DefaultSettings is parsed [13:07:25] And $wgProto is set before that? [13:07:35] it's set in DefaultSettings [13:07:42] Hmm [13:07:50] $wgProto = (isset($_SERVER['HTTPS']) && $_SERVER['HTTPS'] == 'on') ? 'https' : 'http'; [13:07:59] chakie_work: have you tried ugly urls? [13:08:10] could it be something related to stricted variable passing settings in PHP on this system? [13:08:15] i.e. index.php?title=Main_Page [13:08:22] let me see [13:08:40] chakie_work won't that just redirect to index.php/Main_Page seeing as that's how $wgScript et al are set? [13:08:58] ugly urls work [13:09:35] RoanKattouw: sorry, i don't follow [13:09:46] They work? Woot [13:10:24] Then I guess $wgArticlePath = "$wgScript?title=$1"; should be set? [13:10:27] we actually have two installations of mediawiki on that system and both work the same way [13:10:40] is wgArticlePath defined after wgScript? [13:11:04] Yes [13:11:11] No! [13:11:15] Or is it? [13:11:17] Dunno [13:11:24] chakie_work should check [13:11:28] and how old version are we working with? [13:11:31] $wgArticlePath = "$wgScript?title=$1"; [13:11:34] seems to do it! [13:11:38] Great [13:11:52] Then it's just the index.php/Main_Page thing (pretty URL's ) that doesn't wokr [13:11:52] wgArticlePath = "$wgScript/$1"; [13:11:53] *work [13:11:54] did not work [13:12:05] big deal [13:12:19] we don't type the urls anyway, and people are used to urls being ugly [13:12:28] yay ja rommia pullo [13:12:34] :) [13:12:57] and i assume that once the dns changes are made it could work as it did before [13:13:15] ie when we're back on our "normal" domain instead of this temporary one [13:14:33] the only needed change seems to be to $wgArticlePath [13:14:40] let me verify with the other one [13:15:49] yes, it works too [13:15:59] aah! [13:16:15] a big "thank you" for your kind help! [13:17:43] Nikerabbit: we have a "laxström" at work :) [13:18:34] 03proes * r25584 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/App.php: Minor renaming of property labels [13:19:10] chakie_work: maybe you could replace him with me O_o [13:19:33] Nikerabbit: he's quite the guru too, so perhaps [13:19:57] if the pay is good ^^ [13:19:59] ok, seems i can move our domain to the new server now, this was the last hurdle [13:20:27] Nikerabbit: i don't think it is... [13:20:33] bah [13:20:51] sorry [13:44:23] Hola, is there an extension to rename a category? [13:48:07] 03(NEW) Distinguish between full protection and semi-protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (matthew.britton) [13:48:16] Ok. Quick question, is it possible to do any user administration (removing users, for example) without hacking around in the database? [13:48:55] I believe there's an extension that can remove users [13:49:42] It's marked as "unstable". [13:49:51] Is there no native way to do it? :\ [13:49:59] No [13:50:07] But don't take 'unstable' too seriously [13:50:20] Those people are generally very modest/conservative [13:52:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete is stable [13:52:45] RoanKattouw: hehe. the foe of each sysadmin you are. [13:52:54] Punk: XD [13:53:17] I know [13:53:27] I'm more of the "if it works, run it" mentality [13:53:45] 03(mod) Search by page size - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9519 (10matthew.britton) [13:53:56] 03proes * r25585 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (Editor.php OmegaWikiEditors.php): Hide table columns on edit page that don't allow editing [14:14:18] hi. I just installed MediaWiki. Congrats for the soft! my first q: how do I add pages in the "left side menu"? [14:14:38] edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [14:15:39] 03mark * r25586 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-base/ (debian/changelog debian/postinst sysctl.conf): [14:15:39] wikimedia-base (0.18) feisty; urgency=low [14:15:39] * Decrease default TCP keepalive parameters in sysctl.conf [14:16:02] I'm talking about "navigation, search, toolbox". [14:16:18] I just answered to that. *sigh* [14:16:21] Razva: edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [14:16:32] the ideea is that I want to use my Wiki just for my company, and have just a few pages [14:16:38] besides, you don't really edit search and toolbox sections, unless you wanna hack the skin [14:17:15] has anyone used PEAR Soap [14:19:04] Yes, but I prefer plain. [14:20:08] is the "Current events" page dynamic (like the recent changes one) or is static (editable)? [14:20:14] :P [14:20:34] Static [14:21:45] laowai: Saw an earlier post - used to contract for DC Govt right after the Barry years. Any chance of getting your business plan to use at one of our reunion get-togethers? [14:23:21] how can I edit the toolbox? [14:23:28] you *don't* [14:23:31] Razva you can't [14:23:36] unless you want to hack the skin [14:23:46] Only the sidebar with the Recent changes and Current event links is editable [14:23:49] i.e. make modifications directly to MonoBook.php file [14:28:48] how can I use target="_blank" ? [14:30:12] huggle! [14:30:51] 03wegge * r25587 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: Updated da translations [14:32:55] dungie! [14:33:06] :D [14:40:49] 03catrope * r25588 10/branches/apiedit/phase3/ (9 files in 5 dirs): apiedit: Merging r25569 and beyond from trunk [14:40:59] 03(mod) Articles with Extended character titles cannot edit a section only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 (10brion) [14:42:49] Oh dearm dear. [14:42:52] *dear [14:50:21] amida/w 4 [14:50:24] aww [14:57:06] hi [14:57:45] hi [15:05:18] thank you for your time! [15:05:48] Hi, on creating a new namespace, such as "Portals:" will it be treated the same as the main namespace? [15:08:47] Wiredtape: no [15:11:25] MinuteElectron, what about common.js and common.css, will they work on it? [15:11:38] Yes. [15:12:43] Thank you. [15:13:08] No problem, have a nice day. [15:13:57] i just installed media wiki on fedora, the web page says Forbidden when i try to go to config/ [15:14:01] i did chmod a+wconfig [15:14:05] what else can i do? [15:14:37] AlphaOmega: Did you use the Fedora package or actual MediaWiki? [15:15:21] i used the fedora rpm via yum [15:15:58] i set up mediawiki on freebsd no problems at all [15:20:05] (I'm thinking the answer to this has got to be staring me in the face, but...) I've set "$wgUseRCPatrol = true;" in LocalSettings. I'm logged in as WikiSysop, who has sysop privs. I go to a page which is listed in the Recent Changes as not having been patrolled -- but I can't see any way, anywhere, to mark it as patrolled. I'm using MediaWiki 1.10.1. [15:20:46] I seem to recall that there was a "patrol" (or maybe "mark as patrolled") action tab at the top, the last time I used a wiki with patrolling enabled... but it's not there now. [15:21:08] Can anyone at least describe to me how patrolling is supposed to work with v1.10? [15:21:19] That would help narrow down the possibilities. [15:21:37] (Can't find anything in TFM.) [15:27:27] Ok, found a clue... [15:30:07] Clue leads nowhere. My earlier anonymous edit somehow got marked as patrolled, but I did a new anonymous edit and I still don't see link for marking it as patrolled. [15:30:55] Apparently the "mark as patrolled" link doesn't appear in the action tabs, but in a somewhat odd place. I seem to recall it being near the top of the page, but I could be wrong. [15:32:10] "After clicking 'diff' on a change in Special:Recentchanges, you may see a link at the bottom, similar to the one below. Patrolled edits are restricted to administrators in most Mediawiki projects." [15:33:30] maybe we need to load the player from window.setTimeout() instead of onclick [15:34:14] because it looks like in some browsers, it's freezing the main browser thread while it loads [15:34:59] Yeah, it does in Minefield. [15:35:38] AlphaOmega: Problem is probably due to the fedora rpm. [15:35:53] Since they are generally out of date or have esoteric modifictions. [15:36:32] It is probably easier to use the official distrubutions as the others aren't really supported in here due to lack of use. [15:37:22] ok thanks, ill try the src [15:38:23] (Repeating earlier question) Does anyone have any clues why the "[ Mark this article as patrolled ]" link might not be appearing, even though I've (1) enabled RC patrolling in LocalSettings.php, (2) made an anonymous edit on a page which shows up as not-patrolled in "Recent Changes", and (3) am a sysop? [15:42:03] *TehWuzyl finally tries searching for "patrolled" instead of "patrol", and finds this page which seems to have useful info: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edits [15:42:58] eww, RC patrolling [15:49:34] Anyone else here work with D2L (online learning system) ? [15:49:36] 03proes * r25589 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/suggest.js: Minor adjustment [15:52:31] it looks like java will lock up your whole browser while it is loading the .jar file, even from setTimeout [15:52:48] eww [15:52:51] I did a setTimeout with a 10s delay, and it waited 10s and then crashed my browser [15:52:56] I'm using a tarpit as a jar file [15:55:36] firefox will let you close the window, but it keeps running anyway, using memory [15:55:44] how could i change my navigation menu links ? http://www.gnn.com.br/wiki/ [15:56:05] read the FAQ - edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [15:57:14] 03(NEW) HTML comments inside parserfunctions cause substitution to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11212 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (circee) [15:57:55] it doesn't lock up IE, it must be a mozilla issue [15:58:21] 03(mod) HTML comments inside parserfunctions cause substitution to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11212 (10circee) [15:59:50] even without the setTimeout, it doesn't lock up IE [16:00:46] eww [16:01:04] does it do that for every .jar? maybe you can rig something with a staging .jar ... [16:01:09] yecch [16:07:12] MinuteElectron thank you, hold could i change the header? [16:07:50] how* [16:07:54] 03(mod) Change the summary on creating of new section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10836 (10brion) [16:08:47] GNN_Rick: what do you mean by that? [16:09:24] i want to add a header bar [16:10:04] like exist at this page http://www.gnn.com.br you have a "header bar" [16:10:08] i want to add this at the WikiGNN [16:10:36] there's a *lot* of open java bugs in the mozilla bug tracker [16:13:28] 03(mod) Distinguish between full protection and semi-protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 (10matthew.britton) [16:14:09] GNN_Rick: hack the skin. [16:14:17] changing the .php code? [16:14:22] Not much can be done by default, you really should read the manually though. [16:14:23] Yes. [16:14:35] ok [16:17:22] 03brion * r25590 10/trunk/phase3/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [16:17:22] Change new section summary to use /* blah */ format to match section editing look n' feel. [16:17:23] Also allows the message to rearrange a bit more flexibly [16:18:11] MinuteElectron is it possible i change the address of this background image /wiki/skins/common/images/wiki.png ? [16:19:47] yes [16:19:53] where? [16:20:46] !logo | GNN_Rick [16:20:46] GNN_Rick : The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by the $wgLogo configuration setting in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply need to change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo image. See for more information. [16:20:50] Again, read the manual. [16:21:09] 03raymond * r25591 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDe.php: * Update German [16:21:14] thank i'm going to lunch, bye! [16:21:19] You're welcome, enjoy the rest of your day. [16:25:27] how does mozilla development work anyway? [16:25:56] whats the easiet way to get a list of all the protected pages in mw? [16:26:03] TimStarling: It is very complex. [16:26:18] who is likely to fix this thing? [16:26:19] They have all sorts of stuff, supposedly they have a bugzilla and a development wiki. [16:26:37] do they have employees for development these days? [16:26:39] roscoe: Special:Protectedpages (only in MediaWiki 1.10+) [16:27:54] Jack_Phoenix: How about if i am using 1.6.7? [16:28:05] ...upgrade. [16:28:32] haha trust me i want to, but i can't at this time... only running php 4 [16:29:03] eww [16:29:49] tell me about it, my sys admin is lacking a few years of updates [16:30:37] any other way of getting those pages off hand? [16:30:52] dunno, don't think so... [16:31:01] nothing i can check in the db [16:31:03] ? [16:32:13] 03greg * r25592 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/tables.sql: Since slashes in page titles have special meaning, force them to delimit words. [16:33:40] hard to believe nobody has reported this... maybe it's closed "invalid" or something [16:34:04] 03(NEW) Copy from printable version includes [edit] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11213 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (mburnham) [16:34:19] most of the bug reports are just support-style requests "my browser crashed when I tried to load java" [16:38:07] maybe i'm just blind, but where are these templates defined http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Table_cell_templates ? [16:39:39] ahh, never mind [16:39:47] 03(mod) Distinguish between full protection and semi-protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 (10danny_b) [16:39:53] roscoe: Manual MySQL query maybe. [16:43:11] 03greg * r25593 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add the Postgres slash search fix to existing installations. [16:48:01] there might be a workaround, my plain HTML test page didn't have the problem [16:54:18] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10alefzet) [16:54:44] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 (10alefzet) [16:55:55] 03proes * r25594 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Controller.php: Only update text when it is not empty [17:09:32] the situation is a bit better if you put it in an iframe [17:10:49] 03(ASSIGNED) Postgres database code does not support multiple schemas - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11136 +comment (10greg) [17:12:21] instead of monobook skin, I can use only myskin on the ro.wikipedia [17:28:33] brion-office, w/ the New Section Summary - Won't that yield some thing like new section [17:29:02] 03(NEW) SpecialMove: Move page without creating the redirect page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11214 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (magsilva) [17:30:08] 04(REOPENED) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:31:01] Simetrical|away, ;-) [17:33:02] hi [17:33:03] TimLaqua, good job though anyway. ;) [17:33:08] brion-office you around [17:33:09] evil. [17:33:13] http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%89%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B1%E0%B5%86_%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%82:Vssun#My_bot [17:33:25] Simetrical, I'll add parsing for the simple cases [17:33:31] The only real way to fix it is to rip the whole thing out and replace it with a new section-linking scheme. [17:33:35] Simetrical, mainly italics and bold, right? things that'll be parsed out? [17:33:49] I put up a patch for that somewhere before I became a dev. [17:33:52] Simetrical, I agree - I saw your patch where you declared war on MW [17:34:07] TimLaqua, italics, bold, literal HTML tags . . . [17:34:11] brion-office local bcart is having diffuclty with the task [17:34:17] I request your assistance [17:34:22] Simetrical, k, I'll poke at it a bit later. [17:34:28] related is http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11162 [17:34:38] TimLaqua, really what the actual linking mechanism does is run it through the whole parser and then strip out HTML tags. [17:35:02] yeah, and I thought of that methodology, but the parser is just so heavy. [17:35:21] 03(mod) For admins, a "Move Page" check-box to avoid leaving a redirect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062 +comment (10minuteelectron) [17:35:23] 14(DUP) SpecialMove: Move page without creating the redirect page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11214 +comment (10minuteelectron) [17:36:05] stripping HTML should be trivial, same w/ the simple cases. But I hear ya where it needs to be parsed on the exact same level as the heading itself. [17:37:42] You can't call the parser fifty extra times per page. That's insane. It has to be independent of the parser. [17:38:01] yeah, I'll just beef up pseudoParse [17:39:17] 03(mod) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 (10t.laqua) [17:39:29] TimLaqua, for now. [17:40:02] Simetrical, always. ;-) [17:43:18] 03nikerabbit * r25595 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files): * Bugfixes to message groups and tasks [17:44:21] 03nikerabbit * r25596 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: * Fix variable names [17:57:03] 03siebrand * r25597 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [17:57:03] Localisation updates for MediaWiki extension messages from Betawiki [17:57:03] * nl: 4 extensions updated [18:03:25] how i change the gray color - http://www.gnn.com.br/wiki/eudemons/index.php5?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar ? [18:03:36] to black? [18:03:37] Shiroi_Neko: it's on my list, i'll get to it when i get to it [18:03:47] ah ok [18:14:28] what namespace number is the template ns? [18:17:11] NS_TEMPLATE [18:18:56] how i change the permissions to edit thing at the Wiki? i mean only go to the air the autorized content [18:19:21] RTFM? [18:19:29] what is RTFM? [18:19:39] Google is your friend. [18:19:54] kkk ok [18:20:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM [18:20:08] yep [18:20:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [18:20:35] only point me http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents [18:20:36] what manual? [18:21:04] 03(NEW) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jodeldi) [18:21:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [18:21:33] good bless u Simetrical [18:21:57] That is linked from the FAQ, by the way. [18:26:28] Like almost everything. [18:28:46] great manual, i didn't found restrict edit after update [18:28:58] i mean, the user edit, but not go to the publish, the op need autorize it, is that possible? [18:29:18] GNN_Rick, try looking for an extension. [18:29:48] i see that exist manys, what extension do you suggest? [18:29:54] TikiWiki? [18:30:23] That's not an extension, that's separate wiki software. [18:30:33] I don't know of any myself. I don't need the feature, so I haven't looked. [18:30:39] o see down have many extensions [18:30:49] thanks Simetrical i will see here [18:34:38] 03(mod) Request: Per page setting for numbering headers - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3254 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [18:35:10] I'm trying to get my MediaWiki install to e-mail when changes happen. Is that a built-in feature? (It appears to be one, from the preferences...) How can I debug that? [18:37:18] 03(FIXED) Introduce __NONUMBEREDHEADINGS__ magic word - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7832 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [18:41:24] i did not found any extesions that allow edit without publish, anyone know one? [18:42:05] You mean like flagged revisions? [18:42:19] yes ST47 [18:42:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flagged_Revisions [18:42:58] erm [18:43:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs ;) [18:43:09] erm? [18:43:12] rlaager: What is happening, and what do you expect to happen? [18:43:12] It's a redirect [18:43:28] bleh at redirects... [18:45:26] 03(NEW) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings Extension in kshwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [18:45:38] I'd like to upload files/images with only 2 characters in their name. But minimum is 3 characters. How/where can I change this value? [18:46:23] G_SabinoMullane: Well, I seem to have gotten this to start working now. I added myself to wgUsersNotifedOnAllChanges. I guess now I'm just wondering if these messages can include diffs. [18:46:45] Hmm.. I'm having a weird issue, whenever I try to upload a file, the file is stored on the server, however there is not wikipage that contains the upload, and right after I upload it, I get the "No file by this name exists, you can upload it." message [18:46:51] Any ideas what could cause it? [18:50:37] surye: do you use a old mediawiki version? [18:51:24] Nope, newest version, though just upgraded from an old version [18:54:04] Hi. I've just installed MediaWiki and have forgotten the default admin name (know the password) - is it something like SysOpAdmin [18:54:42] WikiSysop [18:54:46] ty [18:54:49] np [18:54:51] can I force mediawiki to install on a server with php 4? [18:55:14] you can install MediaWiki version 1.6.10 on a server w/ PHP 4... [18:55:21] versions 1.7+ require PHP 5 [18:55:28] great [18:55:31] where can I get it? [18:55:47] check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download for more info :) [18:58:26] when i run http://www.gnn.com.br/wiki/eudemons/maintenance/update.php i got This script must be run from the command line - how run from command line? [18:58:40] thanks alot! The alternative would have been installing dokuwiki ... [18:58:42] *Alanius shudders [19:03:04] I'd like to upload files/images with only 2 characters in their name. But minimum is 3 characters in the filename. How/where can I change this value? [19:03:06] GNN_Rick: so. do you know what a commandline is? [19:03:45] GNN_Rick: are you working on windows or *unix sustem? [19:04:02] /sustem/system [19:06:01] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10mediazilla) [19:06:32] PunkRock windows 2003 server i have access RDP [19:07:10] should i run by php.exe ? cmd? [19:07:16] yes [19:08:33] GNN_Rick: you have to run php.exe on the commandline with the update.php as a argument. [19:09:35] GNN_Rick: i don't know if php is automatically added to smthg like a environment variable, so i don't know if you can access it from anywhere. [19:10:14] how i configure superuser credentials at the localsettigns.php? (i didnt configure it at the instalation) [19:10:26] AdminSettings.php - again, RTM. [19:12:07] i didn't found the AdminSettings.php [19:12:58] i found AdminSettings.sample [19:13:18] So follow the instructions in the file. [19:13:36] use that, edit it, and move it to Adminsettings.php [19:14:01] GNN_Rick: go to the mediawiki.org site, and read the install and configure documentation. [19:14:11] GNN_Rick: read the topic in this channel also. [19:14:51] GNN_Rick: ppl. likely tend to ignore ppl. who always ask questions that are written in the documentation. [19:16:24] 03(NEW) Can we have some numbers on m:Special:SiteMatrix? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11217 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [19:16:59] ...you know, there's no help page on the MediaWiki wiki about basic sysop'ing. [19:17:29] If I was being ironic I would go {{sofixit}} :D [19:17:56] Fine, I will. :p [19:18:06] It was a joke, but if you want to... [19:18:16] oh. [19:19:06] 03(mod) Can we have some numbers on m:Special:SiteMatrix? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11217 (10raimond.spekking) [19:19:59] does anyone happen to have a copy of what the localsettings.php file should look like? mine's corrupted :( [19:20:51] so rerun the installer [19:21:42] how do I do that? I've gone back to the link I originally went to but it says the wiki is set up [19:22:17] visit http://wiki.tld/config/ [19:22:44] doesn't load :( [19:23:06] did you erase the directory like the instructions siad [19:23:41] have just done that now [19:23:52] ok [19:24:33] i started editting the local settings to enable file uploads and thats what seems to have sent it wrong [19:25:43] 03(NEW) RSS watchlist doesn't honor 'expanded watchlist' preference - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11218 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: API; (EN.WP.ST47) [19:26:45] http://www.gnn.com.br/wiki/eudemons/ [19:26:47] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function extAddSpecialPage() in C:\domains\gnn.com.br\wwwroot\wiki\eudemons\extensions\FlaggedRevs\SpecialMakevalidate.php on line 44 [19:26:56] got this error after setup - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flagged_Revisions#Setup [19:26:58] any ideas? [19:27:33] Maybe VoiceOfAll_ can help. [19:27:48] VoiceOfAll_ can u help me? [19:28:20] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/xxxxxxxx/public_html/medwik/LocalSettings.php on line 127 is the error [19:30:07] i found the error, sorry [19:32:26] DOES anyone have any idea how to edit the contents of toolbar on the lower left hand of the sidebar? [19:32:36] toolbox* [19:33:26] garyclark: can you pastebin your localsettings, EXCEPT FOR THE DATABASE PASSWORD, so we can look at it [19:33:36] sure - how do I pastebin something? [19:34:03] put it on www.pastebin.com ;) [19:34:09] then send us the link [19:34:11] lol sure [19:34:18] anyone? [19:34:51] http://pastebin.com/m1dd83529 [19:35:03] *flyingparchment recommends rafb.net/paste/, it's not horribly slow and has a much less annoying layout [19:35:06] I see. [19:35:49] See those funny ys at the bottom>? [19:36:03] yeah [19:36:13] make them go away ;) [19:36:43] sorry to ask again really need help: DOES anyone have any idea how to edit the contents of toolbar on the lower left hand of the sidebar? [19:37:24] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sidebar may help you [19:37:27] hype, The toolbox id dynamic. [19:37:29] Haxor the skin. [19:37:33] whatever I do though, it doesn't delete them [19:37:43] I've tried deleting, saving and reopening them and it just puts them back [19:37:46] hype, like MinuteElectron you can hack the skin to make the toolbox go away [19:38:02] garyclark: what editor are you using? [19:38:14] notepad? [19:38:15] dreamweaver [19:38:24] dreamweaver? [19:38:26] O.o [19:38:32] that just auto opened it [19:38:38] where is the toolbox id dynamic? [19:38:48] Try it with wordpad, or something else [19:38:49] TimLaqua [19:39:11] hype, please rephrase the question [19:39:31] You mentioned the toolbox id dynamic, can you be more specific of what you are referring to? [19:39:42] typo, the entire toolbox is dynamic [19:39:51] you can't edit it [19:40:15] well can I add another set of links under it [19:40:39] I've already done so actually by just repasting the code in monobook.php [19:40:56] but now I want to edit what's in it - I repasted all of the text from toolbox so I basically have 2 toolboxes [19:41:00] on my left sidebar [19:41:01] okay - that's worked, thanks [19:41:14] however, now I'm trying to upload an image and I'm getting this: [19:41:14] Internal error [19:41:14] From DFCwiki [19:41:14] Jump to: navigation, search [19:41:14] The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. [19:41:30] 03(mod) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 (10roan.kattouw) [19:42:24] I've CHMOD the directory to 777 [19:42:47] ? [19:43:08] 03tlaqua * r25598 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Refining EditPage::pseudoParseSectionAnchor function (partial fix for 2831 - now calls Parser::doQuotes() to parse wikitext quotes) [19:43:32] the wiki now works, but I'm trying to add pictures to it (the reason i started mucking around with the settings) [19:46:06] 03(mod) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 (10t.laqua) [19:47:15] 03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215 +comment (10wikip) [19:47:49] brion-office, How about we change the parsing for [http://www.google.com] to resolve to http://www.google.com instead of [1]? [19:48:43] how do you hack the data inside the toolbox, anyone have any idea where I should be looking? [19:51:21] Hey folks ultra-newb question here plz [19:51:50] TimLaqua: how about let's not change the way things have worked for 6 years just for fun [19:52:03] that would break any page using that style of links as footnotes [19:52:07] Is there a script or process that does the page linking within MediaWiki for you or is it all done by hand? [19:52:11] which would be, well, any page using that style of link [19:52:16] I've recently upgraded to 1.10.1 and I'm being affected by http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11128 any way to work around it short of upgrading to the SVN version? [19:52:21] brion-office, so no? ;-) [19:52:26] : [19:52:37] 'twas worth a shot. [19:52:59] gdsgfsdfdsfs: that's an extension, so update the extension [19:53:11] wasn't updated [19:53:20] right. it breaks on php 5.2 [19:53:26] not using it [19:53:29] unless you update the extension [19:53:33] then you don't have that bug. [19:53:37] using 5.1 [19:57:49] ne1? ... or is this the wrong place for these kind of questions? [19:57:58] I'm trying to add a new set of links like 'Other Sites' under toolbox as seen here: http://wikitravel.org/en/Main_Page [19:58:06] Does anyone have any idea where I should start? [19:58:07] BillN: There is no script. [19:58:48] 03(NEW) Logo change for oc.wikt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11219 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (a9502784) [19:59:01] ? [19:59:02] 03(mod) Unable to Install - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3846 (10webmaster) [19:59:08] Aye, all by hand then. Thanks MinuteElectron [19:59:19] 14(INVALID) Linking to Simple English Wikipedia statistics - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11210 +comment (10cbrown1023) [20:00:35] 04(REOPENED) Unable to Install - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3846 (10webmaster) [20:02:40] 03(mod) Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831 (10roan.kattouw) [20:07:24] BillN: [20:07:25] You're welcome, enjoy the rest of your day. [20:08:21] 03robchurch * r25599 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES config/index.php): (bug 3846) Suppress warnings from, e.g. open_basedir when scanning for ImageMagick, diff3 et al. during installation [patch by Jan Reininghaus] [20:08:50] 03(FIXED) Unable to Install - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3846 +patch +reviewed; +comment (10robchur) [20:10:06] updated to the latest parser, same problem [20:10:17] seems mediawiki is parsing > at the wrong time [20:10:32] which affects the parserfunctions [20:20:42] hey folks, does anyone have familiarity with PEAR SOAP? [20:25:44] what email subsystem do I need to have installed to get sending confirmation emails working on consumeria [20:26:00] have 'mail' command. what more could you need? [20:26:36] sendmail [20:26:56] Duesentrieb: that the default or the only that will work? [20:27:39] well, for the php "mail" command to work, you need sendmail (installed and, more importantly, configured), or a compatible replacement (exim or postfix) [20:27:48] alternatively, you can use SMTP directly [20:27:55] ok. installing it currently [20:28:30] configuring sendmail is a nightmare - exim and postifx are aupposed to be a bit better, but i still never managed it myself [20:28:56] using SMTP directly is much easier - but less efficient [20:29:13] Duesentrieb: how can I use SMTP directly? $wgUseSMTP or something more complicated? [20:29:26] a little more complicated, but not much [20:29:42] got any documentation handy :) ? [20:29:58] juxo: look in DefaultSettings.php, search for wgSMTP [20:30:07] Duesentrieb: will do [20:30:18] you need to set it to an array that contains the configuration for accessing your mail server. [20:30:51] juxo: you can also look here (same info i think): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgSMTP [20:31:48] bookmarked. cannot express sudden gratitude for help Duesentrieb [20:31:49] it also sais: "Warning: This setting requires PEAR's Mail package to be installed (run "pear install MAIL")". [20:32:14] juxo: be helpful to others :) [20:32:14] saying "thanks" isn't easy to fully convey using irc ;) [20:32:21] it'S called "giving back to the community" [20:32:24] will do [20:33:13] I want to upgrade a MediaWiki v 1.4.4 wiki to 1.10. I'm on Dreamhost. I'm trying to run upgrade1_5.php to change all the latin1 tables to UTF-8 tables, but it fails with the following error message: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/73506 Help? [20:33:55] SeventyFifthTbn: upgrade1_5.php is not for the faint of heart. you should know *exactly* what you are doing when using it. [20:34:42] SeventyFifthTbn: in any case, make a database dump first. also make an XML dump if at all possible. [20:35:03] Heh yeah, I kinda got that impression. Database dumps (both formats) are already made, although I don't fully understand why the XML dump is needed [20:35:13] 03(mod) If page title contains Umlaut the link on edit page is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10881 +comment (10hj-meyer) [20:35:34] SeventyFifthTbn: it's not needed as such. it's a good fallback, because it's indepednant of the db structure, and doesn't have charset issues. [20:36:04] SeventyFifthTbn: anyway, run the *normal* update, then make *another* dump, then convert that dump to utf-8 using iconv or some such, then import it again. [20:36:08] that should do it. [20:36:32] upgrade1_5.php is only worth the trouble if you have a huge wiki and can't afford any downtime (i.e. if you are wikipedia) [20:38:09] Heh okay, thanks. :) I guess I should expect breakage between the time I run update.php and get the db converted to UTF-8? [20:38:16] or rather, "site offlineage" [20:38:38] you should at least make it readonly until you are sure everything is ok again. [20:38:48] *nod* Gotcha, thanks a bunch [20:39:07] the wiki will "work" before the conversion. it'll just mess up "special" characters [20:39:34] can lead to a mess when people edit in that state, especially if you have page titles containing non-ascii characters [20:40:24] Okay, that's what I figured. To be honest the wiki is so small and so English that I doubt it'll be too bad. (But no, I'm still not planning on leaving it in that state.) [20:46:16] SeventyFifthTbn: read the docs on "backing up a wiki", and note the gotcha about charsets when using mysqldump [20:51:07] I don't have my mediawiki.org login handy, or I'd fix it. Just a minor thingy--there's some php code bleed-through at the top of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SidebarEx. [20:52:39] carlamagpie: anons can edit, you know [20:53:50] Aha! I didn't realize. I'll fix it, then. :) Thanks! [20:54:45] carlamagpie: there's a lot of odd shit in the source of that page... it kind of looks like it's a *template* for making a wiki page [20:56:46] I have a question [20:57:01] What is the best way to share wiki data? [20:57:23] Between several different wikis [20:59:21] Yeah, odd. I found the problem after several previews, though. Part of the beginning of the plugin was somehow in the wrong place--so code bled through at the top, and right before the code section. It should be kosher now. I was really careful, but rollback aggressively if I was not cautious enough. [21:00:08] hmm [21:01:38] Is there a standardized way of data sharing with to/forum several different wikis (aka. XML, tar.gz, tar.bz2, etc)? [21:01:56] Is there a standardized way of data sharing with to/*from* several different wikis (aka. XML, tar.gz, tar.bz2, etc)? [21:04:16] as33v: repeating full lines is more annoying than the occasional typo :) anyway - you can share uploaded files, yes. it's intended for images, but you can use if for any file type you allow for upload. [21:04:16] Nevermind, I think I found something... [21:04:31] look at the faq, look for "wiki family" and "wiki farm" [21:04:42] Thanks, sorry about repeating [21:07:45] Hmm, interesting but not quite what I want/need. [21:08:20] anyone here allready have used the extension FlaggedRevs? [21:08:33] Let me look it up [21:08:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flagged_Revisions#Setup [21:09:17] No, I haven't. [21:15:47] where should I go to set one revision as the default at the FlaggedRevs [21:15:48] ? [21:17:05] Does anybody know where the api.php files are in the debian etch packages? [21:18:14] how i set the class of a user as Editor or Reviewer? [21:19:00] *Raymond_ points GNN_Rick to VoiceOfAll_ [21:19:33] i'm reading the manual, sorry [21:27:11] Where's the extension that sets special characters (& + = etc.) in page titles? Anyone? [21:40:32] how the autopatrol works? [22:26:42] Anyone know where's the extension that sets special characters (& + = etc.) in page titles? [22:28:49] Sasoriza: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgAllowDisplayTitle ? [22:29:16] Sasoriza: you can use most special characters in titles, generally (& and + and = alre allowed per default afaik) [22:29:42] Sasoriza: problems arise mainly from using them with different url-styles, rewrite-rules, pathinfo-stuff, etc [22:29:52] is + allowed by default? i remember at one point it worked but wasn't in the list.. [22:30:16] flyingparchment: not sure [22:30:24] Sasoriza: look at the docs and comments for $wgLegalTitleChars [22:30:44] default regexp: " %!\"$&'()*,\\-.\\/0-9:;=?@A-Z\\\\^_`a-z~\\x80-\\xFF+"; [22:30:48] so no, + is not in there. [22:31:16] err. sorry. it is. [22:31:33] last char. i forgot that it this is wrapped in [] [22:31:53] comment sais about it: + Enabled by default, but doesn't work with path to query rewrite rules, corrupted by apache [22:32:05] the comments in DefaultSettings.php are actually quite interresting [22:36:09] Duesentrieb: So is that called "true"? Or "+"? [22:36:30] what? [22:40:12] $wgLegalTitleChars default value = + [22:40:45] Is that where the character string gets specified? [22:44:10] For some reason, + and & aren't functioning in my installation. And on $wgLegalTitleChars, I'm not sure where to specify the string of characters. [22:45:07] I saw an extension a few days ago on MediaWiki, but now I can't find it. [22:46:25] (I've tried $wgLegalTitleChars before, hence why I now seek the extension.) [22:50:43] In short, I don't know where to convert special characters. [23:02:11] hi [23:03:59] i have a problem.. i want to do that specific user could be see specific pages. [23:04:07] but i dont know how? [23:04:38] then you're probably not looking for a wiki [23:06:35] dungodung only a few pages.... [23:06:43] bunyamin: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [23:07:11] In particular, the section "Restrict viewing of just some pages". [23:07:44] 03(mod) Marking bot edits with a 'b' by default - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [23:07:55] You can easily do the opposite, though. [23:08:13] Prevent reading of *all* pages except explicitly whitelisted pages, for certain user classes. [23:08:29] 03(mod) Marking bot edits as "bot edit" by default - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 summary (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [23:08:53] In that case, see (in particular, the "read" right in the table). [23:10:01] thank you Pathoschild i see [23:10:06] but i want to do that [23:10:21] You want to only restrict a few pages? [23:10:30] Pathoschild -> see only http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Test [23:10:33] not other pages [23:11:02] That's possible, although you should also allow the main page and the login form. [23:12:41] yeah i will allow main page and login form [23:12:51] Hey Pathoschild, know anything about setting up + and & in the title namespace? [23:12:53] but you cant see other pages.. only Test [23:13:18] bunyamin: Yes, see the user rights page I linked you to. [23:13:43] Sasoriza: It's not recommended; it will conflict with MediaWiki URL syntax. [23:13:51] Ie, it will break things. :) [23:13:56] Been trying to implement $wgLegalTitleChars but not sure where to specify the string of characters [23:13:57] Pathoschild, thank you so much! [23:14:01] Welcome. [23:14:44] Hmm... Yes, the manual page should specify. Have you tried using it as an array? [23:15:09] Actually, try it as a string of characters. [23:15:11] That's what I thought (that it would break things), but I've seen at least the ampersand used without problem [23:15:22] $wgLegalTitleChars = "+&"; [23:15:29] Try that and see if anything explodes. [23:15:48] *Yume-no-Neko seeks a victi...*cough*cough*choke*gasp*...dev [23:16:04] Yume-no-Neko: They're extinct. [23:16:35] *Yume-no-Neko seeks fosilised mosqutoes in fosilised ember [23:16:41] ah found one [23:16:44] *Yume-no-Neko clones [23:16:57] eeek! its a t-rex [23:17:00] wrong amber [23:17:25] Pathoschild: that would make all other characters illegal... [23:17:32] Pathoschild: Fatal error: Call to a member function getLocalURL() on a non-object in /home/starc3/public_html/starcadia/w/includes/Skin.php on line 1479 [23:17:37] LOL, so much for that [23:18:17] Duesentrieb: According to the manual page, the default value is only "+". Presumably, everything else is allowed unless blacklisted. [23:18:36] Sasoriza: Hmm. Hold on. [23:19:05] Duesentrieb: Apparently, the manual page lies. [23:19:17] The latest default is $wgLegalTitleChars = " %!\"$&'()*,\\-.\\/0-9:;=?@A-Z\\\\^_`a-z~\\x80-\\xFF+"; [23:20:43] Well, didn't explode, but still not showing up. [23:21:02] I'm overlooking something. [23:21:53] Now, this is an ugly hack, *but*. [23:21:56] Try $wgLegalTitleChars = " %!\"$&'()*,\\-.\\/0-9:;=?@A-Z\\\\^_`a-z~\\x80-\\xFF+&"; [23:24:08] No success. [23:24:58] Should something be specified in includes/Title.php? [23:25:38] No, this /should/ work. [23:25:54] Is that only for 1.10? [23:44:06] netsplit? moo? [23:47:26] hi [23:47:40] I am at a loss on how to do something [23:48:05] I want to redirect a domain into another with htaccess [23:48:41] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://othersite.com/$1 [L,R=302] [23:51:15] is there an admin script or way to revert all edits from a particular user ? a user signed up and vandalised my wiki and i want a quick way to remove all changes they made [23:51:22] possible ? [23:52:31] Not sure. [23:52:54] I've forbidden nonadmin accounts from creating accounts. [23:53:47] i dont want to have to click "rollback" for every edit.. i would have though there would be some admin script to remove everything they did [23:53:57] they edited tons of pages. probably with a script also [23:54:25] exobuzz, I think I saw something like that... unfortunately, ATM, can't remember where. But it seems possible. [23:54:25] exobuzz: if they added a particular link you can use the CleanSpam script in maintenance... [23:54:40] they did this [23:54:40] http://dev.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:Recentchanges [23:55:12] some edits. and some moves [23:55:59] I have two rules in my htaccess..one that rewrite the url from /wiki to /..and then another to redirect from a domain to another..does it conflict? [23:56:32] 03(NEW) Error in NUMBEROFARTICLES - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11220 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (ekompute) [23:57:38] exobuzz: there should be a cleanUser script in maintenance folder I don't know why that does not exist... but should be pretty easy to write..or really it should be part of the "block user" interface letting you revert all the edits by that user automatically maybe there is a bug request on that already I don't know [23:59:29] Actually, isn't that a default part of the installation? Revert all edits by a user? [23:59:33] how do i set up categories, and how do i add articles to them [23:59:40] there is a cleanupSpam.php. would that do it ?