[00:00:50] Enrit: Simple way: Type [[Category:Categoryname]] on a page, then go that link and save. [00:01:13] kk, i got that, but how do i add articles to it [00:01:16] *kiba is having problem with his redirect [00:01:24] Then apply [[Category:Whateveryourcategoryis]] to all pages you want categorized. [00:01:42] kk ty [00:02:26] Or you can use a category template if you ever want to change it all later. [00:07:21] I am having problem with my .htaccess [00:07:49] http://pastie.caboo.se/94824 [00:08:01] I guess I am redirecting then redirecting [00:08:23] mdale: so it seems no way currently .. its an open bug.. so for one persons "fun". i have to click about 100 times to revert their stuff [00:08:27] not very nice [00:08:29] :/ [00:09:35] it is redirectly improperly [00:09:36] help? [00:10:07] only 64, exobuzz :) [00:11:09] exobuzz: lame .. kind of amazing that functionality has not been integrated at any point... [00:11:48] Sasoriza: 64 clicks.. of my time.. for one loser.. and he even opened a hotmail account to register .. why ?!? [00:11:58] Yeah, that's what I mean. I thought it got included in 1.10, but never checked since I'm on 1.9. [00:12:21] Exobuzz: What can you do... there' [00:12:29] there's sickos in this world [00:12:33] im on 1.10 and i cant see any option or maintenance script [00:13:06] Hmm. I know I saw that feature somewhere. Must be an extension. Check Category:Extensions. [00:13:13] ok thanks [00:15:16] exobuzz: look for the Nuke extension [00:15:20] Sasoriza: a lot of extensions to look through. aah [00:15:24] Duesentrieb: thanks :)) [00:15:48] *Duesentrieb still wants wiki-wide diff/patch capabilility. that would rock. [00:16:08] "make diff of all changes by x", "apply patch revers" -> all edits gone [00:16:20] ;) [00:16:22] Duesentrieb: yeh.. thats would be great [00:16:34] I can't believe no one's done that yet. [00:16:36] it shouldn't be so terribly hard to do either. [00:16:37] Would also be good for resolving edit conflicts [00:16:48] it would be tricky to do it efficiently, though [00:17:15] ST47: that already exists. if you have diff3 conigured, mw uses it to resolve edit conflicts if possible. [00:17:21] ooo [00:17:36] Has wikimedia got diff3 conjured? [00:17:43] i think so, yes [00:17:56] Duesentrieb: nuke does added pages.. so.. if they have edited/moved an existing page, will i lose what was there previously ? [00:18:20] exobuzz: i thought it kills revisions, and the page only if it doesn't have any previous revisions [00:18:27] but i have never used it, so i don't know [00:18:29] aah ok. ill try on a few first [00:18:56] exobuzz: bake a backup before trying anything scary :) [00:19:18] A lot of extensions... you're telling me? I spent two days looking through 'em. [00:19:20] exobuzz: use an xml dump, it's much nicer if you want to resore individual pages [00:19:35] Sasoriza: that's why they are categorized [00:19:46] Even so. [00:19:56] Duesentrieb: i cant even find the items using nuke.. perhaps because of the username they created being long with non alpha numeric chars [00:20:28] shouldn't be a problem. but as i said, i havn't used it. but since brion hacked it together, i'd expect it to function [00:20:40] ask him about it [00:20:54] generally, a wiki's spam protection is its community [00:21:08] which mine doesnt have yet.. since its not officially launched :) [00:21:14] the theory is that between them, active admins have more clicking power than spammers [00:21:34] but on some specialist quiet wikis, this might not come true [00:21:50] well... without a community, a wiki is just a page everyone can edit - which can be annoying [00:22:02] exobuzz, do you just want some help reverting that stuff? (Of course, it's still better to know how to take care of it yourself.) [00:23:45] Sasoriza: well. of course that would be lovely. however, having an easy way to undo some whackos stuff would be handy.. nuke doesnt seem to be able to find any edits from the user. or mine either. so perhaps its not working [00:23:55] 03brion * r25600 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php OggPlayer.js null_file.mov): Rename the null file for QuickTime hack to null_file.mov so Opera doesn't prompt to download it [00:24:16] Never used the Nuke ext. either, so, can't help there [00:24:58] exobuzz: I think Special:Nuke only works with new page creations. [00:25:11] how to revert a moved page.. its giving me a brainache.. he moved it to a new title with his "crap" in. so i need to move it back. and then delete the old page [00:25:12] what a pain! [00:26:01] undoing "moves" isnt that simple. requires 2 steps [00:26:03] TimLaqua, you know, Parser::doQuotes is marked private. [00:26:07] If you want to use it, mark it public. [00:27:02] exobuzz: that's why many wikis restrict page moved to "autoconfirmed" users (i.e. older than 4 days) [00:27:28] Duesentrieb: ok ill make sure i change my configuration [00:27:48] TimLaqua, also, I think it's probably too heavy for what you want. You're doing a lot of worthless processing. [00:27:48] but the thing is.. this user signe dup.. with email address etc [00:28:03] he made a hotmail account. to damage my wiki.. [00:28:04] he'd still have a 4 day wait# [00:28:08] right ok [00:28:12] TimLaqua, removing every sequence of two or more quotes would be just as correct, I think. [00:30:22] Voice of All had a .js on Wpedia with all kinds of added functionality; wasn't there something like that in there? Mass reverts? [00:33:14] 03(NEW) 'Compare selected versions' button is active, but useless, on history page with one revision - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11221 minor; lowest; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (brion) [00:37:34] exobuzz, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Voice_of_All/UsefulJS... not sure if that'll help but there's some good stuff in there [00:38:22] note the admin section... it can be adapted for other wikis [00:38:41] Sasoriza: thanks.. ive decided to restore from yesterdays backs and then put the good edits back . there were only 2 [00:43:43] Now if I can just make these title characters work... grrr. [00:47:57] Duesentrieb: what is the config option i need to restrict page moving ? [00:52:47] exobuzz, $wgGroupPermissions['user']['movepage'] = false; [00:52:59] thanks :) [00:54:04] btw.,. in phpmyadmin it gives some warnings when browsing mediawiki db. like for "revision" table: PRIMARY and INDEX keys should not both be set for column `rev_page` [00:54:06] (I think) [00:54:27] i guess this isnt important ? or perhaps when i backed up/restored i caused a problem ? [00:54:36] (i didnt use phpmyadmin for thebackup/restore) [00:54:50] exobuzz, I think phpMyAdmin is just being stupid. [00:54:54] ok [00:54:57] What are the keys on the table? [00:55:21] (rev_page,rev_id) should be primary, and you should also have a non-unique (rev_page,rev_timestamp). [00:55:24] That's to be expected. [00:55:35] If you have an index on (rev_page) alone, that's screwy and you should drop it. [00:56:07] ok.. no its fine then [00:57:48] Simetrical: http://www.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/grab.jpg [00:58:15] exobuzz, no, it's just being retarded. [00:58:22] ok :) thanks [01:01:48] im clean again! http://dev.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:Recentchanges :) [01:02:30] exotica? [01:02:34] erotic contents? [01:03:03] no :) [01:03:40] its not a naughty site ;-) [01:04:48] erotic.wikipedia.org [01:05:06] Encyclopedia Erotica! [01:05:08] :P [01:06:03] :) [01:07:37] Simetrical you have a minute? [01:07:46] If you have a question, feel free to ask. [01:08:03] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 [01:08:10] how doable is that? [01:09:19] I really would like that commited before http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bot_policy takes a serious discussion [01:12:03] Shiroi_Neko, as Roan says, it's really two requests. I don't know what the point of the second half is, honestly, since they're bots and so could just set it default themselves without software support. [01:12:21] (Actually, I thought *all* bot edits got marked bot. They're not?) [01:12:33] only on rc [01:12:36] not page histories [01:13:12] Nothing is marked bot on page histories. [01:13:23] yes [01:13:30] thats the problem [01:14:22] So what's the issue with "default"? [01:14:26] It's not possible, default or not. [01:15:50] the request is to make it posible :P [01:15:56] not for past edits [01:16:00] but for current ones [01:16:37] 03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:16:41] Shiroi_Neko, it's completely doable, but it will have to wait a few months for a schema change. [01:16:57] ah [01:17:08] Actually, I'll add the definitions for the schema change now, since 1.11 is branched. [01:17:16] Give me a few minutes, I want to merge it with another change I had made. [01:17:20] yay :) [01:17:32] *Shiroi_Neko hugs you [01:18:01] I'm profiling using xdebug and kcachegrind, and something called shows up all over. What is that? [01:18:09] Simetrical et al: thanks for your help. goodnight :) [01:18:18] davidmccabe, o_O? [01:18:21] Simetrical, So does brion move certain revisons over to the Branch? [01:18:26] Simetrical, as a function call? [01:18:27] TimLaqua, yes. [01:18:35] TimLaqua, and did you catch what I said earlier about doQuotes? [01:18:40] I didn't [01:18:42] bad idea? [01:18:48] Scroll up? [01:18:49] Simetrical: as a function call, taking 99% of the time. [01:18:52] wasn't on [01:18:59] I've got about 20 lines buffered. ;-) [01:19:53] davidmccabe, uh, that's probably bogus? [01:20:15] Simetrical: :-/ [01:20:34] says it's "called" from performAction. [01:21:01] [070906 20:25:46] TimLaqua, you know, Parser::doQuotes is marked private. [01:21:01] [070906 20:25:50] If you want to use it, mark it public. [01:21:01] [070906 20:27:30] TimLaqua, also, I think it's probably too heavy for what you want. You're doing a lot of worthless processing. [01:21:01] [070906 20:27:54] TimLaqua, removing every sequence of two or more quotes would be just as correct, I think. [01:21:22] thx [01:21:39] Simetrical, doQuotes isn't private. [01:21:50] Simetrical, or you mean someone wrote @private in the doxygen comment? [01:21:55] TimLaqua, it's commented private, from when we still used PHP 4 and couldn't really mark it private. [01:22:18] We can't just switch all those over to really private, because half the time someone's used them elsewhere. [01:22:32] Yeah, like in EditPage. ;-) [01:23:18] Simetrical, The reason I used doQuotes is because there is some funky stuff like where ''''foo'''' is translated to 'foo' [01:23:43] TimLaqua, oh, right. [01:23:46] Simetrical, but yeah, I could pry write alot more efficent regexes to simply toss the quotes in the right place [01:23:46] Forgot about that insanity. [01:23:49] it's crazy [01:24:05] # If there is an odd number of both bold and italics, it is likely [01:24:05] # that one of the bold ones was meant to be an apostrophe followed [01:24:05] # by italics. Which one we cannot know for certain, but it is more [01:24:05] # likely to be one that has a single-letter word before it. [01:24:05] I wrote 2 or 3 regex revisions and was like "omg, what is this thing doing?!?!" [01:24:07] *Simetrical cries [01:24:44] yeah, then I shrugged, check to make sure it wasn't private (but did indeed note the comment) and stole it. ;-) [01:25:00] *Simetrical suggests you just mark it public, then [01:25:17] I agree that it's silly. I mean, I fully parse all quotes then rip out the html. [01:25:28] good call. [01:25:49] It's because we don't have a grammar specification. [01:26:05] do we have any specifications? [01:26:18] No. [01:26:31] I usually wing it and let people correct me when I do silly things. (like make calls to private methods. ) [01:26:35] 03(NEW) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [01:26:49] Simetrical I have done as you asked [01:27:03] Shiroi_Neko, oh, that's you? [01:27:07] yea [01:27:07] *Simetrical stabs name-changers [01:27:13] Simetrical, protected is only accessable to child classes, right? [01:27:21] Shiroi_Neko = White_Cat [01:27:24] yeah, people who change their nick all the time are a pain in the arse [01:27:36] TimLaqua, yes. [01:27:36] my nick is the same [01:27:40] merely translated :P [01:27:43] *Simetrical stabs flyingparchment [01:27:54] arent you all JP-N ? [01:28:05] *Simetrical even knew "neko" meant "cat" [01:28:06] *VoiceOfAll beats flyingparchment [01:28:10] 03(mod) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222 (10cbrown1023) [01:28:12] 03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 (10cbrown1023) [01:28:14] :D [01:28:30] *Simetrical scrapes flyingparchment clean and uses her to write an essay for his nonexistent-this-term humanities class [01:28:40] *Simetrical thinks it would be cool to hand in an essay on parchment [01:28:52] *VoiceOfAll finishes watching the 05 GOP debate on youtube [01:29:20] *sept 5 [01:29:38] VoiceOfAll hmm you were that bored? [01:29:48] no, Ron Paul always makes it fun [01:29:53] ah [01:30:04] still you had nothing better to do [01:30:30] 03tlaqua * r25601 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: (m) Marking Parser::doQuotes() as public as it needs to be available to EditPage::pseudoParseSectionAnchor [01:31:48] Simetrical is bot name a variable? [01:31:59] like how "sysop" is a variable value [01:32:06] it can be called admin [01:32:10] Shiroi_Neko, neither one of those is a variable. [01:32:16] A variable is a programming construct. [01:32:23] Simetrical yes [01:32:27] *VoiceOfAll saw that one coming [01:32:31] "Sysop", in a program, would be a string. It could be contained in a variable, or a constant. [01:32:36] Oh, wait, you mean can it be translated? [01:32:38] Of course it can. [01:32:43] ah yes [01:33:29] so theoraticaly speaking that value could be posted as the text for that second bug I entered? [01:33:39] I wouldn't be surprised if there was a MediaWiki message already containing "bot". [01:33:46] In fact, I'm pretty sure there is. [01:34:38] group-bot-member [01:35:17] Pathoschild, we don't want to reuse messages like that. [01:35:32] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Group-bot-member&action=edit [01:35:35] Causes problems for translation/customization. [01:35:45] true enough [01:35:58] group-bot-member fits, though, no? [01:36:05] I still find the translation thing to be mind-boggling. [01:36:33] If we're referring to a bot group member, no need to create several interface messages for the same thing? [01:36:44] Like, you make a new system message (extension or core) and then other friendly folks wander by and translate everything. [01:36:44] [[m:Bot policy|{{Mediawiki:Group-bot-member}}]] [01:36:49] should do the trick [01:37:10] Shiroi_Neko: Local policy is better. [01:37:17] yes [01:37:22] it could be voerwriten [01:37:29] but thats the default [01:37:37] *Simetrical frowns [01:37:44] better would be [[m:What is a bot?|{{Mediawiki:Group-bot-member}}]] [01:37:44] There's grouppage-bot which refers to the local page ({{ns:project}}:Bots) by default. [01:37:53] Should rev_bot be indexed somehow? [01:37:59] There's [[m:bot]]., [01:38:04] Hmm. [01:38:28] domas is now shooting people who add indices [01:38:34] lol [01:38:36] the idea is linking to meta by default if not overwridden [01:38:51] if local wiki has a policy that should be linked [01:38:58] flyingparchment, I thought he was just reverting them snarkily and adding a redundant condition. [01:39:02] local policy should also have a see also link to the meta one [01:39:22] (to use the existing index) [01:39:29] Hmmm. [01:39:38] Simetrical well [01:39:43] you know the bot has a bot flag [01:39:47] you could use that [01:39:53] rather than an index value [01:40:04] if bot looses a flag tho that might be problematic [01:40:07] Shiroi_Neko, you have no idea what an index is. You might not want to try to comment. [01:40:11] *TimLaqua gets all confused [01:40:20] Simetrical I actualy do know what an index is [01:40:21] Anyway, I'll figure the main use is "hide bot edits", so it's probably not worth it. [01:40:36] Simetrical, isn't rev_bot boolean? [01:40:40] Shiroi_Neko, possibly. [01:40:43] TimLaqua, yes. [01:40:44] or... won't it be? [01:40:45] there's no such thing as a boolean in mysql [01:40:53] flyingparchment right [01:40:55] flyingparchment, there's BIT(1) in MySQL 5, isn't there? [01:41:02] everyhting is a char [01:41:06] . . . [01:41:08] Shiroi_Neko: no it's not [01:41:10] Simetrical: I laughed so hard when Wallace mentioned that Ron wanted to remove the "CIA, IRS, FR, DHS, Medicare" [01:41:14] *TimLaqua continues to call things boolean. [01:41:19] Simetrical: i thought that was just an alias for tinyint(1). or did it change to a real type? [01:41:33] you can use char(0) of course [01:41:34] flyingparchment well [01:41:40] flyingparchment, I don't know. domas once mentioned that CHAR(0) NULL is best for booleans. :D [01:41:43] Inded. [01:41:45] Indeed. [01:41:54] Should I, or should I use TINYINT like we do elsewhere? [01:42:04] i think he was joking. :) [01:42:12] It's probably very efficient, though. [01:42:15] *Shiroi_Neko was also joking [01:42:28] Only one bit in the index, no kidding. Although it's rounded up to the nearest byte, probably. [01:42:30] Per row. [01:42:37] Actually, hmm. [01:42:38] no, it's a bitfield [01:42:45] Yes, a bitfield per row, isn't it? [01:42:46] one bit per column [01:42:58] I mean, in the data. Actually it can't be in the index, can it? [01:43:02] . . . I have no idea. [01:43:08] *Simetrical needs to learn how btrees work [01:43:14] it can, you can index nulls [01:43:26] although i'm not sure how they're stored [01:43:49] with a btree you'd probably have one page storing all the null values [01:44:37] Shiroi_Neko, as for doing a join and checking whether the author is a bot, that can't ever use indexes. Cross-table indexes don't work. [01:44:40] *jeremyb wonders who flyingparchment is [01:44:57] jeremyb: your worst nightmare [01:45:06] flyingparchment: papercut? [01:45:15] I see [01:45:23] *Sasoriza needs to learn all this stuff [01:45:42] 'Kate', right? [01:46:12] Simetrical how frendly is the code on history pages? For modifications that is [01:46:30] Shiroi_Neko, buggered if I know. [01:46:51] TimLaqua, there's an extensive list of her previous names on [[mw:Developers]]. At least her IRC nicks. [01:46:57] Probably not exhaustive, though. [01:46:59] if the first bug is commited, second one would basicaly be an if(foo == 'b') {foo!} [01:47:07] Kate's the only one I ever remember [01:47:12] Here's a simple ? I'm sure: I want to remove edits from a page history. In the database, which table do I go to? [01:48:15] Sasoriza, revision. But beware referential integrity. [01:48:23] thx [01:48:30] I want that on a shirt. [01:48:38] "Beware of referential Integrity" [01:48:43] XD [01:48:55] Simetrical: I love how Mike and Paul went at it too [01:48:59] ah, such fun [01:49:11] Shiroi_Neko: not boring at all really [01:49:19] VoiceOfAll, surely the 2007 Republican debates are on YouTube also. [01:49:53] sept 5, 2007, yes, that's what I'm talking about [01:50:30] [070906 21:28:35] * VoiceOfAll finishes watching the 05 GOP debate on youtube <-- I didn't see the correction. [01:50:40] Simetrical, so we cool on the doQuotes usage? not gonna shank me when I turn around or anything? ;-) [01:52:25] 03simetrical * r25602 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Reinstate 25267 now that 1.11 is branched, and add the relatively long-requested rev_bot (with no index) while I'm at it. By the way, the current index-updating format in updaters.inc makes baby Jesus cry. [01:52:34] (but I don't care, because I'm Jewish!) [01:52:35] :P [01:52:55] I was wondering why you said 'jesus' :) [01:53:11] TimLaqua, if you change it to public function doQuotes it's reasonable enough, except that it might be too slow. Try benchmarking it. [01:53:45] VoiceOfAll, I was influenced by a comment in Cite.php that I saw in my formative months as a MediaWiki hacker: "XXX: Crappy cut-and-paste makes baby Jesus cry". [01:53:50] Also, it's a cool phrase. [01:53:55] Making baby Jesus cry. [01:54:07] Ron Paul is cooler [01:54:12] *VoiceOfAll ducks [01:55:05] do they show the republican debates on comedy central? [01:55:11] prolly [01:55:41] flyingparchment, they show the most entertaining parts. [01:55:46] 03simetrical * r25603 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: Use "public function", not the old "@public" nonsense. [01:55:50] On things like The Daily Show. [01:55:50] If they don't yet... give 'em time [01:56:35] flyingparchment: I love the 'do you believe on god'/'in evolution' stuff, plus Ron Paul is always funny for some reason [01:56:48] I've heard it's way more entertaining this time around, because they allow in total nutjobs and not just semi-serious candidates. [01:57:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZ_sHmop9k @8.55 [01:57:33] Oh, I forgot to test my commit. [01:57:35] *Simetrical does so [01:58:56] Now, why doesn't someone write a script that will take each slave out of rotation one by one, run arbitrary SQL queries, restore them to rotation, and switch the master so that it's one line of code to do schema changes? [01:59:14] i don't know, why don't you? [01:59:32] Because I'm not a sysadmin and don't know how any of the servers are set up. [01:59:45] a poor excuse [02:00:04] I don't have a good working knowledge of how MySQL replication works, either. [02:00:16] red Teh binlogs [02:00:28] who here uses firefox on mac a lot? [02:00:39] Does anybody in the world use Firefox on Mac a lot? [02:00:45] i do [02:00:50] I thought normal people used Camino. [02:00:57] hah [02:00:58] Because FF2 doesn't integrate into the desktop properly. [02:01:05] this prolly crashes camino too [02:01:05] (which is a priority-one fix for FF3) [02:01:10] *jeremyb prefers fx [02:01:22] but barely tried camino [02:01:49] . . . [02:01:52] who uses gecko with widget:mac widgets on mac? [02:01:54] Oh, right, I forgot svn add. [02:01:56] Hahahaha. [02:02:14] THAT MIGHT NOT WORK, THEN. [02:02:56] *Simetrical notices that anybody using our update script to update from, say, 1.10 to 1.11 probably has to rebuild half the tables about five times each [02:14:25] Is it normal for PHP to have 8 MB allocated by the time performAction is called? [02:14:37] starting from 2 MB when PHP first starts up. [02:14:44] davidmccabe, sounds reasonable. [02:14:52] 20 MB is the recommended maximum for MediaWiki. [02:15:58] ok. [02:16:23] Is it likely that I could be experiencing lousy performance due to PHP allocating memory inefficiently due to misconfiguration? [02:16:59] Doesn't sound likely. [02:17:13] Simetrical: I thought that maybe was some kind of allocator or garbage collector. [02:17:24] davidmccabe, could be. [02:17:28] What's your memory limit? [02:17:48] 8 MB. [02:18:41] I should change that to 20? [02:19:10] That's a good idea. [02:19:20] 03simetrical * r25604 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/archives/ (patch-rev_bot.sql patch-revision-user-page-index.sql): svn add might in some cases be helpful when committing files that did not previously exist. [02:22:20] hm, doesn't seem to have helped. [02:33:05] 03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:33:07] 03(mod) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:35:17] 03(WONTFIX) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:37:10] 03(mod) Articles with Extended character titles cannot edit a section only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 (10tomchiukc) [02:41:36] 03(mod) Articles with Extended character titles cannot edit a section only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 +comment (10cbrown1023) [03:01:45] hey folks, does anyone have familiarity with PEAR SOAP? [03:03:19] Try #pear or #soap? [03:03:24] #pear [03:03:28] oops hah [03:03:29] #cleansing_products [03:03:55] an extension is telling me i have to do the following to install it: 1. Install "Snoopy". Download and extract it to some directory. 2. Install PEAR SOAP. For instance, execute this command in the php directory: pear install channel://pear.php.net/soap-0.10.1 [03:04:14] so yeah i dont know what kind of command prompt it's refering to [03:04:19] Shell. [03:04:25] oh good lord not again [03:04:36] You can't install PEAR packages without root access. [03:04:56] how would i acquire root access [03:05:02] What server are you using? [03:05:04] do i need to contact my host [03:05:05] dreamhost [03:06:49] You aren't getting root access on a shared server. [03:07:09] hmm [03:07:10] If you're really lucky they'll install the package for you, but don't hold your breath. [03:07:18] shittybuzz [03:07:29] Generally they aren't interested in reconfiguring a server with 500 sites based on one person's request. [03:07:39] But you could try. [03:07:41] it's beginning to prove nearly impossible to find an api extension [03:07:58] that i can actually get working [04:02:46] 03tstarling * r25605 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js: [04:02:46] You might find email to be more efficient for sending private messages -- that [04:02:46] way only the recipient downloads it, instead of the recipient plus 100 million [04:02:46] Wikipedia readers. Or indeed, a commit notice. With a large file in the data [04:02:46] parameter in Mozilla, the browser downloads the entire file before it starts [04:02:47] playing. The referenced document may describe streaming, but the same technique [04:02:49] is also necessary for cross-browser progressive download. [04:03:28] bitchy [04:03:29] ;-) [04:09:31] hello [04:31:53] i'm having problems with mediawiki (newest off of the site). i got o click on anything and it automaticly logs me back out. [04:31:56] i just set it up [04:32:11] have you read the FAQ? [04:33:01] yes but not for this specific issue. I had set this up a few weeks ago as well with no issues like this [04:33:40] yeah, but there's an FAQ entry on not staying logged in, AFAIK [04:34:14] doing a quick search through the faq for "login" doesn't turn that up [04:34:40] !faq [04:34:40] Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [04:34:47] *NotAMused looks [04:35:23] hum actually that wiki that works is from a different source. probably should just copy it over [04:35:35] TheCougar: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#...do_I_get_logged_out_constantly.3F [04:36:15]