[00:27:34] 03tstarling * r25652 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js: [00:27:34] * Misc. fixes for opera [00:27:34] * Wrap an iframe around the applet tag in non-IE, to work around Firefox 2.0 bug. Tested on FF and Opera, needs testing on some other browsers, because it uses some non-standard JS. [00:47:11] I saw something in INSTALL that says running MediaWiki with safe_mode on probably won't work. I couldn't find anything on the wiki about it, though. Is this true? Has anyone tried it? [00:54:35] snimda: basic operatin will work, bout you are likely to have problems with more fancy stuff. starting wil image thumbnailing [00:54:49] safemode sucks. it'll go away in php6 anyway. it shouldn't be used. [02:04:23] Hey everyone.... anybody know why pages like MediaWiki:Sidebar do not show up for me when I try to go to them in my wiki? [02:04:28] I want to edit my sidebar, etc. [02:08:20] 03tstarling * r25653 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (EditPage.php Parser.php): [02:08:20] Moved EditPage::sectionAnchor() and EditPage::pseudoParseSectionAnchor() to [02:08:20] Parser, names slightly changed. Replaced O(N^2) regexes with calls to [02:08:20] StringUtils. This should fix the breakage of ActiveAbstract extension, which was [02:08:20] calling EditPage::sectionAnchor() statically. [02:08:21] We could probably all benefit from implementing a general rule *not* to call random non-static functions statically. This style is very vulnerable to breakage on later refactoring. [03:07:19] 03(NEW) Localisation for FlaggedRevsPage, OggHandler, PasswordReset, PdfHandler, Quiz, SpamBlacklist, UserMerge, Vote and Wikidata extensions (zho series,yue) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11230 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (shinjiman) [03:44:19] does anyone know of any government entities using mediawiki? [04:16:10] 03david * r25654 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtModel.php): Save time by being evil and loading the page table data in the same query as the thread table. Coming up next: table-scans begone! [04:26:30] How do I add something to the Edit page? [04:39:44] 03raymond * r25655 10/trunk/extensions/ (12 files in 12 dirs): [04:39:44] * (bug 11230) Update Chinese translations [04:39:44] Patches by Shinjiman [04:40:10] 03(FIXED) Localisation for FlaggedRevsPage, OggHandler, PasswordReset, PdfHandler, Quiz, SpamBlacklist, UserMerge, Vote and Wikidata extensions ( zho series,yue) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11230 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [04:42:01] domas: is it possible to select where x = this OR y = that and not do a table scan? [04:54:26] If an article exists, is it possible for it to ever not exist anymore such that its page_id is invalid? [05:34:13] 03david * r25656 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtModel.php: doh, got rid of a var_dump [06:07:55] morris: the CIA, AFAIK [06:07:58] [[Intellipedia]] [06:17:38] giorno [06:17:59] 03tstarling * r25657 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/ (changelog control): Depend on php-pear [06:19:41] !list [06:45:32] davidmccabe: 5.0 [06:56:05] I'm sorry? [07:03:34] davidmccabe: answering your question [07:04:18] domas: that's not possible in 4? [07:04:23] UNION [07:04:39] select .. where a=x union select .. where b=y [07:04:40] :) [07:04:54] thanks; I'll look into that. [07:05:04] the basics of sql is so deceptively simple. [07:05:57] yup [07:07:01] I should probably be shot for writing this query. [07:07:10] I should also not have believed you about materialized paths. [07:07:11] :P [07:36:17] Hi, how can I display a png file from the web in my wiki article ? [08:31:34] hi ya [08:31:51] I got a wiki like this http://www.aocfinland.net/wiki/index.php/Prestige-luokat [08:32:12] and I am looking howto hide that index.php from the adress line [08:47:50] hello, can somebody help me with migration od mediawiki database from mysql4.1 (latin1) to mysql5.x (utf8)? [08:48:33] how to convert characters and database specification that will fit in the new database [08:58:55] 03tstarling * r25658 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.i18n.php OggHandler_body.php): noicon option for audio players [09:07:28] l0wkey: don't [09:07:40] MinuteElectron: ? [09:08:00] MediaWiki already stores its stuff in latin1 databases as utf8 so it is slightly retarded but there i no need for character conversion. [09:08:13] *is [09:09:00] MinuteElectron: still .. I'm having probles since mysql5 is configure to set names and everything to UTF8 [09:09:09] configured even [09:16:51] l0wkey: if you try exporting from wiki and importing to wiki ? [09:17:42] tstaerk: I have over 100MB big sql databse [09:18:52] l0wkey: yes, that's the reason. Sorry I have to leave, please take a look at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10574, there exporting by mediawiki means is discussed in detail. [09:23:23] <[Jessy]> Hello I have a question to the Special:Import can someone maybe help me? [09:24:32] ERROR 1071 (42000) at line 82: Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes [09:24:54] CREATE TABLE `categorylinks` ( [09:24:54] `cl_from` int(8) unsigned NOT NULL default '0', [09:24:54] `cl_to` varchar(255) character set utf8 collate utf8_bin NOT NULL default '', [09:24:54] `cl_sortkey` varchar(255) character set utf8 collate utf8_bin NOT NULL default '', [09:24:54] `cl_timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, [09:24:54] UNIQUE KEY `cl_from` (`cl_from`,`cl_to`), [09:24:56] KEY `cl_sortkey` (`cl_to`,`cl_sortkey`), [09:24:58] KEY `cl_timestamp` (`cl_to`,`cl_timestamp`) [09:25:00] ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; [09:25:02] what can be wrong here? [09:27:09] <[Jessy]> Why does is a existing page not overwritten if i import the page`? [09:33:41] !pastebin | l0wkey [09:33:41] l0wkey : Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [09:33:53] l0wkey: just shorten the cl_to and cl_sortkey to 85 characters [09:33:54] sorry .. [09:33:55] [Jessy]: The time stamps of the imported pages. [09:33:58] l0wkey: or use new mysql with innodb :) [09:34:10] domas: i'm using mysql5 with innodb [09:34:24] [Jessy]: They might be before the latest version of the non-imported page. [09:35:02] <[Jessy]> i want to export a pager. edit it manually and import it but nothing is changed [09:36:25] <[Jessy]> what can i do that a exsisting article is overwritten after import? [09:37:16] change the timestamps. [09:37:24] or delte a page before importing the new one [09:38:03] <[Jessy]> oh i see i think it works [09:38:46] <[Jessy]> thanks it works but i have a question. [09:38:58] <[Jessy]> what time should the timestamp get? [10:24:36] does anyone know, why the new inline ogg script tests, if navigator.javaEnabled() is true AND the browser knows the mime-type "application/x-java-applet"? the first should be sufficient, i think... the second fails in opera, when opera don't use java as plugin, but access it directly... [10:34:14] 03(NEW) Couldn't play inline in Opera, when Opera directly accesses Java - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (apper) [10:53:14] 03(mod) Couldn't play inline in Opera, when Opera directly accesses Java - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 (10tstarling) [10:54:23] help me http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9290332 [10:54:47] THX [10:57:33] 03(mod) On-page "What Redirects Here" for admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11083 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [11:14:42] 03siebrand * r25659 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesBcl.php MessagesBn.php MessagesSk.php): [11:14:42] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [11:14:42] * Fixes and additions to to Messages for bcl, bn and sk. [11:22:52] 03siebrand * r25660 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Update RELEASE-NOTES [11:31:16] 03(NEW) Cutting File - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (koehler-liesel73) [11:45:15] 03siebrand * r25661 10/trunk/extensions/ (10 files in 10 dirs): [11:45:15] Localisation updates for MediaWiki extension messages from Betawiki [11:45:15] * bn: 10 extensions updated [11:47:35] 03(mod) Couldn't play inline in Opera, when Opera directly accesses Java - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 (10apper) [12:20:00] mmm [12:20:22] is anybody with the knowledge of software engineering aaround [12:21:05] I am trying to explain someone the unnecesity of seperate aprovals for the same code [12:25:51] [13:50] Raymond_ were you a de.wiki admin? ? [12:26:21] Raymond_ oh the issue was resolved [12:26:27] fine :) [12:26:34] there were two double redirects on protected pages [12:29:07] Shiroi_Neko: "seperate aprovals" ? [12:58:26] Duesentrieb_ yes [12:58:31] how bots are [12:58:56] it is silly for multiple bots to request aproval for redirect.py on all 700 wikis [12:59:21] im my view [12:59:52] Duesentrieb_ it is on foundation-l [13:00:28] Shiroi_Neko: well, not only the bot code has to be trusted. also the bot's owner. [13:00:39] Duesentrieb_ right [13:00:53] if he isnt trusted on one wiki he shouldnt be trusted on all others [13:01:14] one centralised dicussion rather than 700 of them seems to be the better course of action [13:01:22] most wikis wouldnt see the danger [13:01:34] since they have a community made out of half a person [13:02:12] If it is really that big a problem why not build a double redirect prevention unit into MediaWiki - it would save an uncountable number of cpu cycles. [13:02:31] MinuteElectron doesnt fix the double redirect issue [13:02:33] err [13:02:38] I eman the interwiki issue [13:02:42] *mean [13:02:57] What has interwiki issues got to do with redirect.py? [13:04:31] Shiroi_Neko: we have no global admins. admin and bot policy are a local matter. [13:04:58] MinuteElectron ok interwiki.py and redirect.py [13:05:02] Shiroi_Neko: it is annoying for interwiki bots and things like CommonsDelinker. We could try to get people to agree on some special rule for them [13:05:13] Duesentrieb_ indeed [13:05:17] precisely what I seek [13:05:18] Shiroi_Neko: but just saying "everything approved by one community should be accepted by all others" will not cut it. [13:05:29] Duesentrieb_ not one community [13:05:34] a meta discussion perhaps [13:05:36] a centralised one [13:05:50] one as in not 700 [13:06:04] you could try to set up such a process. the reality is though: going-ons on meta etc are very obscure to most people [13:06:16] Duesentrieb_ true [13:06:18] i for one sure have no clue where such deicussions are taking place [13:06:26] Duesentrieb_ most people dont care about interwiki bots either [13:06:39] Duesentrieb_ it started yesterday on foundation-l [13:06:53] same time pathoschild is woring on drafting a bot policy on meta [13:06:55] well... there was a lot of yelling about unauthorized bots delinking images... [13:07:16] Shiroi_Neko: once we get SUL, this would become feasable, and should be talked about, yes [13:07:20] is there a possibility to link a page of the wiki directly to some external page [13:07:29] like an external redirection [13:07:31] aton`: "link directly"? [13:07:44] ah. no. [13:07:44] ra [13:08:02] is there an extension for that? [13:08:06] well, it would be relatively trivial to write an extension that does it. so probably someone has. [13:17:05] Easy == It's been done? ;-) [13:30:43] is there anyway or tutorial for me to use cookie only to login without session [13:41:24] 03(NEW) wrong link to Special:SMWAdmin after setup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11233 minor; low; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [13:41:44] feiming, what do you mean? [13:44:50] Platonides: i have my own login page and database [13:45:12] 03siebrand * r25662 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [13:45:12] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [13:45:12] * Adding language Mapudungun (arn). Translated by Lin linao. [13:45:14] Platonides: i need to make mediawiki to work with other system [13:45:35] Platonides: but we does not wan to maintain 2 db [13:46:21] Platonides: and the login need to be able to access the other system [13:46:56] LDAP [13:50:19] MinuteElectron: that the thing,i suggested to use that.but the insist to use their own [13:50:20] moin all [13:51:04] MinuteElectron: they use a mess up system,and yet still wan to do a single signon system [13:51:40] heh [13:52:16] is there a way to block edits based on their summary (was none a while back and can't prog one myself, tried and failed miserably :))? [13:52:52] YNSx2 i don't think so [13:53:22] I don't really care if I need to do it hard in core files (I only need one check) but I can't get the summary check to work [13:53:34] hm would it be possible to change the "login" page somehow? [13:55:12] haven't looked at the check for ages so I can't tell you what I tried.... all I'm /was trying to do was check if msn.com was in the summary [13:55:51] but it either didn't do anything or wreck the mediawiki install totally :P [13:58:08] anybody want to help me with a problem setting up mediawiki on Fedora Core 2 [13:58:17] ? [13:59:39] Are you using a yum package? [13:59:45] Please just ask your question. [13:59:53] been looking at what I was working on a while back. I was changing the EditPage at the "# Check for spam" line. Adding (or trying to anyway) the msn.com check [14:01:41] 03siebrand * r25663 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesNl.php): [14:01:41] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [14:01:41] * Updating Dutch (nl) [14:02:22] Anyone willing to take a look (add a, relativly ugly, check for msn.com in the summary when submitting an edit and if so not change the article)? [14:04:32] this is what I had myself (which doesn't work, dunno why not); http://mediawiki.pastey.net/71641-3rsc [14:17:26] Hello everyone :) Which MediaWiki file contains the text used on the wiki? [14:17:58] None. [14:18:04] Itis stored in the database. [14:18:27] The interface text can be found in the page Special:Systemmessages [14:19:09] Sorry, wasn't very specific. Which file contains the font type used? [14:20:19] It depends on the skin you are using. Each skin has it's own CSS file (the file which stores the font) and can be found at skins/SKINNAME/main.css [14:21:56] To edit do I use skinname.css? [14:22:37] wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css for example [14:23:38] yes [14:23:53] ok, thanks for your help :) [14:25:22] Manticore: You're welcome, enjoy the rest of your day. [14:25:43] Night over here, but thanks, you too! [14:31:31] MinutemanElectron, Thanks for responding. I'm using some fedora2*test*.rpm that was the only one I could find, I was able to getting it up and running by copying the DefaultSettings.php from a tar.gz install I did in another directory. Now I would like to know how to edit the main page. [14:32:02] like any other wiki page [14:32:04] click the edit tab [14:32:21] Let me look at that again. [14:33:11] Duesentrieb_, thou ist wise :) [14:33:26] 03(NEW) Update for Belarusian translation (be-tarask) collected from be-x-old Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11234 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (Eugene.Zelenko) [14:33:27] \o/ [14:33:33] MinuteElectron, Duh!!! Thanks. [14:34:24] (It was Duesentrieb_ :) [14:41:56] Howdy! [14:42:52] Hello [14:43:04] Hi! [14:47:44] I was debating with my friend whether the parsing of non-standard UTF-8 characters (say CE fonts) in Mediawiki articles' TOC's are intentional or not over Wikipedia. For instance on Russian pages (see: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Федерер%2C_Роджер) the actual URL's are encoded in Russian, but the TOC anchors are converted to hex. I was just wondering if this is a feature and if I can turn it off. [14:47:59] 03raymond * r25664 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesBe_tarask.php): [14:47:59] * (bug 11234) Update Belarussian Taraskievica orthography translations [14:47:59] Patches by Eugene Zelenko [14:49:13] 03(FIXED) Update for Belarusian translation (be-tarask) collected from be-x-old Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11234 +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:49:54] Raymond_, how many languages do you speak? [14:50:10] TimLaqua: over 200 *hides* [14:50:15] really? [14:50:38] in real live: 3: German, English, Dutch [14:51:42] 03(NEW) Javascript error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11235 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [14:52:23] Does anyone know of advanced logging options for mediawiki other then apache's access log? I would like to know the ip addresses that users log in from, and what pages they access. Thanks [14:52:57] checkuser will give the first half won't it? [14:53:21] I will go read the manual... [14:54:25] Manticore: log in? I don't believe that checkuser can do this [14:54:35] only account creating and edits [14:55:02] thats why I asked a question myself, I wasn't sure. Thanks for the clarification :) [14:55:03] bye [14:55:07] cya [14:55:50] uh [14:55:56] I am not seeing the logo [14:56:32] $wgLogo = "Image:Libregamewiki.png"; [14:56:50] I created $wgLogo after seeing there is no $wgLogo in setting [14:56:56] er...localsetting [15:01:35] <_Danny_B_> why is the result of #if rendered with newline at the beginning in this case: {{#if:{{{foo|}}}|#{{{foo}}}}} - i need it on the same line, since it is not

03(NEW) Java error when no audio device available - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11236 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (raimond.spekking) [15:24:25] 03(NEW) smwfLoadAllMessages has unnecessary argument. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11237 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [15:37:42] Hi all [15:38:38] just a quick question, can we define user permissions to access pages ( for each pages ) ? [15:38:53] access as in read? [15:38:58] yes [15:38:58] or edit? [15:39:01] both [15:39:16] I mean I want to give access to few pages, but not all [15:39:36] I know there are addons for this, but is it now in mediawiki main branch ? [15:40:23] GauthK, nope. [15:40:50] :-( [15:42:08] namd/moin/hello ,) [15:42:50] where can i find a nice & usable print.css? ,) [15:44:11] Ok [15:44:14] thanks for the answer [15:44:16] bybye [15:57:30] 03(mod) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 +comment (10alefzet) [15:57:32] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 (10alefzet) [15:59:44] 03siebrand * r25665 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Set fallback for Frisian (fy) and Zealandic (zea) to Dutch (nl) [16:02:43] Is there a template that adds leading zeroes to numbers? [16:03:58] LOL: there's a stringfunctions package for use with the parserfunctions extension. there might be something in there - maybe something like printf [16:04:05] it's just a guess though [16:04:38] hm, you might not even have to have parserfunctions to use stringfunctions. but you'd probably want it anyway [16:06:42] LOL, that's funny [16:17:50] # quit [16:18:01] There is no escape. [16:18:11] #help [16:18:19] help [16:18:22] Please don't do that. [16:18:27] What do you want? [16:37:40] LOL: If you're still looking, you can also do it with ParserFunctions, which are less vulnerable to abuse. [16:38:24] You, unaway yourself. [16:38:40] Fine. :D [16:39:51] ever since laughing out loud has left #mediawiki, the room has become dull [16:40:02] :P [16:40:17] perhaps lol will return [16:40:21] one day [16:47:22] 03(NEW) SMW blocked when Extension:Pdf Export is loaded. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11238 04BLOCKER; low; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [16:48:49] !seen test [16:48:58] !seen RoanKattouw [16:50:37] *Jack_Phoenix Jocke_Pirat [16:50:45] *Jocke_Pirat Jack_Phoenix [16:52:05] Is there any way for you to restrict access from users creating pages in a certain namespace, and allowing another group to edit them? [16:52:57] Or rather allowing users to only create pages in a namepace and another group to edit them >_< [16:54:55] why some user can only create page ? [16:55:48] Jocke_Pirat, yes [16:55:50] There are two usergroups: Critics and Writers. I just want writers to create pages, and critics to edit them [16:56:03] use some locking extension [16:56:18] create and edit are different permissions [16:56:39] but for the whole wiki [16:56:52] not only for some namespaces [16:57:28] Ah. I see in the Lockdown extension. Thank you. [16:58:11] I so would like to be able to have array like parameters to a template, to be able to calculate arbitrary sums and to build arbitrary tables [17:13:12] 03raymond * r25666 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler.i18n.php: [17:13:12] * (bug 7971) Update Kazakh extension translations [17:13:12] Patch by AlefZet [17:13:47] 03(FIXED) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [17:24:36] does anyone know of any government entities using mediawiki for their website? [17:29:47] Hello the content that appears on a Wiki page, how is it created?? I mean do I need to enable any variable to display it or does the editor when writing the page takes care of it?? [17:30:24] What sort of content are you referring to? [17:31:35] ST47: I mean the Content frame that appears on the page so that when one clicks on it the page scrolls to the desired portion where the text is. [17:31:46] The table of contents? [17:31:53] That's done automatically by mediawiki [17:32:19] If you want to force one to appear, type __TOC__ whereever you want it to be [17:34:08] ST47: You mean the editor types while he is editing wherever he wants it to be?? [17:34:28] bonii: no, not necessarily [17:34:54] ST47: Then?? [17:34:56] If the editor doesn't specify a location, it's automatically put above the first section [17:37:37] ST47: In the wiki I have set up the Contents table is not appearing. Do I have to explictly switch some variable on?? I mean how is specified if a Contents table is to appear and what is it to contain?? Can you point me to some documentation if I am asking a FAQ. [17:38:04] If you do not have one on a certain page, and want one, type __TOC__ on that page [17:38:17] note that a page must have section headers [17:39:40] ST47: Thanks. I will just try it out [17:42:48] 03evan * r25667 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/Consumer.php: [17:42:48] Two changes to the Consumer: [17:42:48] 1) Add a cookie containing the OpenID identifier on successful login. [17:42:48] This is in anticipation of future enhancements that will auto-login if [17:42:48] the OpenID ID is set, and the user is logged into their OP. [17:42:48] 2) Change the login default from deny everyone by default to allow [17:42:52] everyone by default. [17:47:41] I did the short url thing about 20 times now in various wikis and it works everywhere. Now i setup a new one and it wont work, i am stomped. [17:48:23] hi. "invalid confirmation token" when clicking the confirm. link in email after registration, anyone an idea about that issue pls? [17:48:52] (err msg translated from german, might be different) [17:49:30] i had some trouble when upgrading mysql, probably thats the reason [17:49:33] I got a 1.10.1 working fine, now i setup a 1.11 rc and used the same .htaccess (rewrite rules) and the same settings for $wgArticlePath but i get 404 errors now. Error log of apache says "File does not exist" [17:49:53] when loggin in i get "username not found " but it's there [17:50:32] To make it neater, the whole short url page thinks i want the scripts in /w/index.php and the nice artilce paths in /wiki/Somepage which i dont. [18:00:42] whats the latest recommended method to have RC in IRC? still missing that old "php rcdumper.php" , using the UDP packet method never really got it to work..and then there were other scripts.. [18:05:30] and ehm "$wgRC2UDPPort = '555666';" seems weird on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Simple_IRC_RC_Bot , ports above 65532 ? [18:08:03] ill try getting the UDP packets with netcat again .. [18:11:31] i'm being told i want to use caching proxy instead of bytecode caching to run my wiki page. is this true? [18:18:03] PureEvilGeek: I would always use a bytecode cache. And if your wiki is very large, as in has a LOT of hits, a proxy can reduce the stress significantly. [18:18:37] only person using it will be me [18:18:55] forget proxy [18:19:15] ok so enale bytecode caching? [18:19:37] If you have one installed, yes. [18:20:11] MediaWiki can detect them as far as i know, so just let it do its own thing there. If it cant find any, dont worry, its not needed, specially not when you are the only person using the wiki [18:20:11] i don't lol thats the issue [18:20:42] SimonMoon then the snow speed of the pages loading up i should assume is another issue? [18:22:19] PureEvilGeek: If you have slow sleeds there can be a hundred different reasons for that. [18:22:25] *speeds [18:22:51] SimonMoon then i need to start looking around on the server. going to increase ram first to see if that is it since i am running low [18:22:59] But if you can live with it, sine its only you using it, i wouldnt worry. [18:23:15] 13-15 seconds for a page to load [18:23:19] with nothing on it yet [18:23:24] well a little but just a few text lines [18:23:28] Yeah, that is damn slow [18:23:52] Windows or linux server? [18:24:58] is there a file where the information placed in pages such as Mediawiki:sidebar, mediawiki:sitenotice, etc, resides? This would make it easy to use the same setup in different wikis [18:25:05] unless there's a better way [18:26:09] 03(NEW) Image captions ending with external links display inconsistently - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11239 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (wikiGracenotes) [18:27:35] inkhorn: export your mediawiki namespace and import it into the other wikis. [18:27:53] hey kids [18:27:57] hey brion [18:27:57] heya brion :D [18:28:02] SimonMoon: freebsd 5.x / apache something or another / php5.0.5 (i think? deffently 5.x) [18:28:35] would that include all the articles? [18:29:08] inkhorn: not if you just export the MediaWiki namespace, as i said. [18:29:24] i think dumpBackup.php has a namespace filter. [18:29:31] it *should* have anyway :) [18:29:35] SimonMoon: issue is my ram i think. [18:29:35] oh oh [18:30:17] brion: what i always forgot to ask you: does mwdumper update link tables on import? or does it just create the pages/revisions, and you need to run rebuildLinks afterwards? [18:30:32] Duesentrieb_: mwdumper does page, revision, text tables only [18:30:53] ok... thant's what i feared. [18:31:10] brion: is it fully compatible with 1.11 then? [18:31:29] presumably [18:31:34] do i do this in special:export [18:31:35] hmkay [18:31:50] it wouldn't set rev_len field afaik, though [18:31:59] inkhorn: if you only have a few pages, yes. otherwise, use maintenance/dumpBack.php from the command line [18:32:17] cool [18:32:29] brion: would be nice to fix that, but it should not be a real problem [18:34:05] brion: while i have your attention - what do you think about replacing more uses of isAllowed by userCan, so extensions can controll more permissions? [18:34:20] no opinion [18:34:25] not familiar with it at this time [18:34:51] hm, ok. i seems like it would make sense to use userCan for all page reated stuff like delete, move, protect, etc [18:35:01] but i wasn't sure if it would break stuff. [18:35:14] it might, who knows :) [18:35:51] so... should i just be bold when i have the time?... [18:38:59] 03siebrand * r25668 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [18:38:59] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [18:38:59] * Bengali (bn) [18:38:59] * Cassubian (csb) [18:46:15] wait a sec, deus, you said command line [18:46:25] for the dumpback.php method [18:46:39] does this require me to have shell access [18:47:00] yeah [18:47:03] that's the third thing i need to do that requires a commmand prompt...damnit [18:47:11] i have to figure out how to get that [18:48:41] i knwo dreamhost allows me to set up shell access for a user (like myself) but it doesnt give me a command prompt, so how the hell do i access this? can it be done in dos [18:49:02] i have tortoise svn if that helps [18:50:00] no [18:50:17] go download PuTTY SSH client if you use Windows as your computer OS [18:50:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PuTTY [18:50:25] hm will do [18:52:03] installin [18:54:37] 03brion * r25669 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler_body.php: Use $wgStylePath, not $wgScriptPath/skins, so it actually works on installations such as our own :) [18:55:30] hm this configuration is very foreign to me [18:57:31] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10brion) [18:57:47] k ill find info on how to use this [18:57:54] thx jack [18:57:59] np [19:01:00] I have a template which is '[[{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}]]' but {{pdf|xxx|yyy}} produces [[xxx|xx]] what gives? [19:01:08] s/xx/xxx [19:01:52] interesting... [19:02:52] jack, you just put a jetpack on my back [19:03:03] :o [19:04:06] Oh, I am missing the : [19:16:36] 03(mod) Java error when no audio device available - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11236 (10tstarling) [19:22:54] hello [19:23:05] excuse me [19:23:39] 03(mod) Couldn't play inline in Opera, when Opera directly accesses Java - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 (10tstarling) [19:24:31] you are excused [19:36:56] 03(mod) Cutting File - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 (10tstarling) [19:40:36]