[00:08:18] <_Danny_B_>	why is the result of  #if rendered with newline at the beginning in this case: {{#if:{{{foo|}}}|#{{{foo}}}}} - i need it on the same line, since it is not <ol> item, but anchor part of url
[00:14:15] <Simetrical>	Maybe {{{foo}}} contains a newline?  I always thought we stripped those, but . . .
[00:16:45] <Pathoschild>	_Danny_B_: For some reason, ParserFunctions will treat [*#:] at the beginning of the result as wiki list syntax.
[00:19:48] <_Danny_B_>	that's stupid. newline can be simply added, but there's no way to remove it. this behavior should be corrected/removed
[00:20:25] <Duesentrieb_>	bah. i knew about this for parser hooks... but i though parser functions are smarter.
[00:20:36] <Duesentrieb_>	report it as a bug
[00:36:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[00:42:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings Extension in kshwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216  +comment (10mvdRoehe)
[00:58:44] <VoiceOfAll>	'display/ 	 25672 	 4 hours 	 brion 	 li'l quickie'
[00:58:55] <VoiceOfAll>	hehe, that somehow bring dirty thoughts to mind
[01:01:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10tstarling)
[01:18:40] <Simetrical>	I wonder . . . is it possible to modify PHP error levels for certain types of errors somehow, so that you can persuade it to die on accessing an undefined variable, say?
[01:18:50] <Simetrical>	Or calling a non-static function statically.
[01:19:30] <TimStarling>	it's possible to define an error handling function for non-fatal errors
[01:19:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10gmaxwell)
[01:20:11] <Simetrical>	Hmmmm.
[01:20:59] <Simetrical>	Of course, those of us who enable E_STRICT error reporting and display_errors get big messy messages at the top of our pages if someone does something like calling a non-static function statically.
[01:21:18] <Simetrical>	But that just helps with cleanup if the developer who wrote it didn't bother with that.
[01:21:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10gmaxwell)
[01:22:31] <AzaTht>	hmm, the Cortado java player used on en-wiki seems to be really bugged
[01:22:40] <AzaTht>	it just freezed
[01:25:36] <VoiceOfAll>	freezed?
[01:25:40] *VoiceOfAll 	giggles ;)
[01:28:25] <AzaTht>	aka, stops doing anything and ignores input
[01:28:33] <TimStarling>	did it go out to lunch?
[01:28:47] <AzaTht>	probably, it's java we are talking about
[01:28:55] <TimStarling>	indeed
[01:30:48] <AzaTht>	a flash player perhaps?
[01:31:41] <AzaTht>	TimStarling: on an other thingi, nothing to do with what you are here to do, but do you ever had problem with printing when all spaces are just gone?
[01:32:16] <AzaTht>	from time to time, all spaces and punctionation character are missing when printing
[01:32:33] <AzaTht>	I don't know where to start debugging :(
[01:33:24] <TimStarling>	no
[01:33:36] <AzaTht>	ok
[01:33:49] <AzaTht>	it's especially when printing from wikipedia
[01:34:54] <AzaTht>	nah, gonna nap now, adios amigaos
[01:37:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Couldn't play inline in Opera, when Opera directly accesses Java - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11231  (10apper)
[01:56:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  summary; +comment (10cbrown1023)
[01:57:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[01:57:36] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Nonexistant language subdomains of .wikinews list wrong info - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11229  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[02:06:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10cbrown1023)
[02:15:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10gmaxwell)
[02:16:12] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r25678 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: *Clearify
[02:17:30] <CIA-6>	03tstarling * r25679 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/cortado-ovt-stripped-0.2.2.1-patched.jar: Recompiled by Greg to hopefully avoid bug 11245.
[02:19:58] <VoiceOfAll>	TimStarling: uhh...look at the title of wikimedia-tech
[02:20:15] <Worby>	O_O
[02:20:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[02:21:27] <Worby>	VoiceOfAll: if it upsets you, you can change it, it's not +t :-)
[02:21:38] *Worby 	doesn't really care, so I needn't change it :-P
[02:23:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241   +shell (10shinjiman)
[02:28:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymous users to create pages in non-talk, non-article namespaces. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11240  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[02:28:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wrong or misleading response after entering e-mailed temp password - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11246 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[02:39:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10steinninn)
[02:44:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko)
[02:45:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10cbrown1023)
[02:49:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings Extension in kshwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[02:51:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings + PSINoTocNum Extensions in kshwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216  summary (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[03:14:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10steinninn)
[03:16:37] <feltipen>	categories have their own namespace, but do they have their own table on mysql
[03:17:33] <Simetrical>	There's a categorylinks table.
[03:17:57] <Simetrical>	The page/revision metadata and text for the categories themselves are stored with all the other pages.
[03:18:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10gmaxwell)
[03:19:21] <feltipen>	but the category names are stored in that table?
[03:19:52] <feltipen>	can't guess what a category link would be
[03:20:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  (10gmaxwell)
[03:25:55] <feltipen>	the reason i ask is because i want to see if it's possible to access the categories of a page through through the mediawiki db, or at least the names of categories themselves. 
[03:26:54] <feltipen>	from an external program
[04:15:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New signature wiki markup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10336  (10webmaster)
[04:43:09] <kunwon1>	I'm trying to put wikipedia style infoboxes on my wiki v1.11.0rc1. I tried copying an infobox template off of wikipedia and the formatting is all screwed up, I suspect I'd need other templates to do it properly?
[05:08:55] <fuu>	kunwon1: You need to install ParserFunctions < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions >.
[05:20:56] <kunwon1>	fuu, thanks, i'll give it a go
[05:22:06] <fuu>	Welcome.
[05:36:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change in Bengali Wikipedia {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11111  (10bellayet)
[06:21:20] <shadeofgrey>	okay
[06:21:21] <shadeofgrey>	so
[06:21:34] <shadeofgrey>	i understand the concept of wiki's but...
[06:22:03] <shadeofgrey>	can a mediawiki be made to look as good or better than a custom themed wordpress install?
[06:22:38] <shadeofgrey>	does anybody know of a site that highlights the cream of the crop of online mwediawikis?
[06:27:25] <domas>	shadeofgrey: mediawiki.org!
[06:31:05] <Simetrical>	shadeofgrey, this channel is frequently mainly by developers.  We can help with setup, error messages, etc., but most of us don't pay much attention to actual wikis not run by the Wikimedia Foundation.
[06:31:11] <Simetrical>	You might try mwusers.com or something.
[06:38:18] <shadeofgrey>	okay good
[06:38:46] <shadeofgrey>	talking tol developers is the only way to understand with certa i  nty what media wiki can and cant do
[06:46:13] <domas>	damn, I forgot the nicest wikis out there
[06:46:49] <domas>	didn't mozilla run one
[06:58:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) OggHandler Cortado stop button doesn't work right, makes java go out to lunch. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11245  +comment (10gmaxwell)
[07:05:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cortado does not play very short vorbis files. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11247 minor; low; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:14:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cortado speaker icon should become a volume control - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11248 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:15:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cortado speaker icon should become a volume control - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11248  (10gmaxwell)
[07:26:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) QT + XiphQT playback on OSX does not work. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:32:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) QT + XiphQT playback on OSX does not work. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11249  (10gmaxwell)
[07:41:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Button which is the same size as the player it covers is bad for some use cases . Player button causes linebreaks. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11250 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:42:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cortado does not work well at small widths. Seek bar, timer, and the icons overlap. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11251 15enhancement; low; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:51:49] <Soroush83>	I have dumped a mediawiki dump to my local wiki. What should I do to fill the tables like category and... on my wiki?
[07:52:05] <Soroush83>	Is there a script for it till now?
[07:53:59] <chat-de-plafond>	in maintenance/
[07:54:15] <Soroush83>	which script?
[07:54:36] <Soroush83>	should I run it from command line?
[07:54:49] <chat-de-plafond>	yeah
[07:55:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cortado buffering is not robust and not sensitive to download speeds, bufferSize param does not appear to work. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11252 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[07:55:32] <Soroush83>	There are many scrripts there
[07:55:46] <Soroush83>	don't you have the script name in mind now
[08:00:45] <Soroush83>	that's rebuildall I think. 
[08:03:05] <Soroush83>	But how should I set database name and password for it
[08:03:17] <Soroush83>	it misunderstands them
[08:03:30] <chat-de-plafond>	AdminSettings.php
[08:06:22] <chat-de-plafond>	whee --> http://www.devanywhere.com/ViewPub.php?id=24
[08:07:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) No position slider/seek bar is displayed for VLC. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11253 15enhancement; lowest; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (gmaxwell)
[08:09:00] <Soroush81>	Thanks chat-de-plafond. It's working now
[08:09:41] <chat-de-plafond>	:)
[08:10:03] <Soroush81>	But I got to install a wiki without table prefix to dump the export files to it using mwdumper
[08:10:19] <chat-de-plafond>	ew
[08:10:29] <chat-de-plafond>	srely there's a command-line option to do table prefixes?
[08:10:48] <Soroush81>	I didn't find any other way for dumping export files. I couldn't find that command
[08:11:00] <Soroush81>	don't you know it?
[08:11:11] <chat-de-plafond>	stupid... nope I don't use mwdumper much
[08:11:47] <Soroush81>	May I know if you use sth else, please?
[08:11:56] <chat-de-plafond>	whee
[08:12:07] <Soroush81>	sour1 suggested me to use xml2sql and
[08:12:11] <chat-de-plafond>	oh crap, release notes
[08:12:12] <CIA-6>	03werdna * r25680 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php Title.php): 
[08:12:12] <CIA-6>	* Allow userCan to take null $user - and replace it with $wgUser if passed.
[08:12:12] <CIA-6>	* (Bug 7027) Shift handling of deletion permissions-checking to getUserPermissionsErrors.
[08:12:19] <chat-de-plafond>	I don't know much about it, tbh
[08:12:37] <Soroush81>	dump it to database but it didn't work
[08:13:43] <CIA-6>	03werdna * r25681 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: RELEASE-NOTES from last commit.
[08:14:11] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) userCan hook for 'delete' needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7027  +comment (10Andrew)
[08:16:04] <Soroush81>	thanks, chat-de-platfond. But have a look at this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwdumper#Todo
[08:16:17] <Soroush81>	I  really wonder
[08:16:28] <Soroush81>	but what I say is still in todo list
[08:17:05] <Soroush81>	it looks to be very easy to be added to this program. Just a few lines of programming 
[08:17:34] <Soroush81>	However the mediawiki.org page might be outdated yet
[08:18:50] <chat-de-plafond>	I can look into it
[08:18:52] <chat-de-plafond>	where is it on the repo?
[08:19:13] <chat-de-plafond>	found it
[08:20:27] <chat-de-plafond>	ew java
[08:23:21] <datakid23>	I had a working mediawiki1.7 install about 3 days ago, then I added pdf exporter, and now for some reason my urls are being redirected from http://wiki.site.org to http://wiki.site.orghttp//wiki.site.org/index.php/Main_Page 
[08:23:42] <datakid23>	(that's exact = missing a : and doubled up?)
[08:24:59] <chat-de-plafond>	"The current version works with recent versions of MediaWiki, with a few tweaks it works with 1.6.7 and newer as well."
[08:25:35] <chat-de-plafond>	Requires MediaWiki 1.9, AFAICT.
[08:25:54] <datakid23>	would export to pdf be causing that issue though?
[08:31:14] <datakid23>	is the upgrade path from 1.7 to 1.10/1.11 relatively easy?
[08:31:20] <datakid23>	or are there major changes
[08:33:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ConfirmAccount internationalization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11254 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[08:38:38] <siebrand>	How can I add a user group to MediaWiki?
[08:40:32] <datakid23>	left hand column "special pages"
[08:42:53] <Soroush81>	Siebrand
[08:43:10] <Soroush81>	just $wgGroupPermision
[08:43:15] <Soroush81>	it can do it
[08:43:56] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r25682 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: French translation of ConfirmAccount by Bertrand GRONDIN (bugzilla 11254)
[08:45:17] <Soroush81>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAddGroups
[08:45:39] <Soroush81>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions
[08:45:48] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) ConfirmAccount internationalization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11254  +comment (10siebrand)
[08:46:07] <siebrand>	Soroush81: thanks!
[08:46:44] <Soroush81>	You're welcome siebrand.
[08:47:21] <chat-de-plafond>	hey, I didn't know $wgAddGroups worked now!
[08:48:22] <siebrand>	Soroush81: Hmm, still not clear to me I think. It is not about adding groups to a user, it is about creating a new group.
[08:48:22] <chat-de-plafond>	datakid23: I think it's just a straight replace and php maintenance/upgrade.php - I vaguely remember Tim saying he managed 1.3->1.11 a few days ago.. don't quote me on that though
[08:48:44] <datakid23>	thanks chat-de-plafond
[08:48:52] <chat-de-plafond>	siebrand: Well, you need an actual permission to go with a group
[08:48:58] <chat-de-plafond>	otherwise there's no point in having it.
[08:49:55] <siebrand>	chat-de-plafond: the permission in this case is "$wgUser->isAllowed( 'translate'"
[08:50:12] <siebrand>	(from extension Translate)
[08:50:17] <chat-de-plafond>	siebrand: okay, add $wgGroupPermissions['groupname']['translate'] = true;
[08:51:18] <siebrand>	chat-de-plafond: works like a charm. Thanks, as well as to Soroush81.
[08:51:23] <chat-de-plafond>	:)
[08:55:17] <chat-de-plafond>	siebrand: do charms really work?
[08:55:23] <chat-de-plafond>	I thought they were just placebo effect.
[08:55:50] <siebrand>	chat-de-plafond: dunno. In Dutch we say "Works like train"...
[08:56:00] <siebrand>	chat-de-plafond: and they are not even a placebo...
[08:56:09] <chat-de-plafond>	siebrand: That sounds vulnerable.. what if there was a big train crash
[08:56:11] <siebrand>	Works like a train, even...
[08:56:38] <siebrand>	chat-de-plafond: gotta love foreign provers and sayings :)
[08:56:45] <siebrand>	proverbs..
[08:56:45] <chat-de-plafond>	indeed
[09:41:55] <marlun>	How can I see which version of MediaWiki I'm using on my wiki?
[09:42:42] <chat-de-plafond>	Special:Version
[09:46:09] <marlun>	chat-de-plafond, thanks :)
[09:48:58] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) shell - activate AllowSlowParserFunctions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10330  +comment (10londenp)
[09:50:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) shell - activate AllowSlowParserFunctions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10330  +comment (10Andrew)
[10:12:27] <seanw>	Hey all.
[10:12:33] <seanw>	http://www.silentflame.com/mediawiki in IE
[10:12:38] <seanw>	Any idea what the JS error is?
[10:27:20] <MinuteElectron>	seanw: I get a 404 error.
[10:27:28] <MinuteElectron>	http://www.silentflame.com/wiki/Home -> 404
[10:28:58] <seanw>	Yeah, sorry, fixing redirects now.
[10:29:18] <seanw>	And struggling
[10:29:31] <seanw>	I have no idea why it works on one site I setup, the exact codfe ont he other doesnt
[10:29:35] <seanw>	Thsi is .htaccess method
[10:30:19] <MinuteElectron>	On one of my wikis I spent months working on it.
[10:30:26] <MinuteElectron>	Eventually I found the right combination.
[10:32:06] <seanw>	Oh
[10:32:07] <seanw>	I get it
[10:32:16] <seanw>	We have a wiki directory, that is wiki.xyrael.net
[10:32:20] <seanw>	*sigh* what a confusing mess
[10:33:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Hebrew Wikipedia upload log contains a post-dated (2025) row - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9495  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:34:52] <MinuteElectron>	afk
[10:43:44] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add links to www.wikipediaondvd.com on Wikimedia websites - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9553  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:44:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Include Sitemaps file on wikimedia's robots.txt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9563  trivial->15enhancement; -shell  (10jeluf)
[10:45:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) For admins, a "Move Page" check-box to avoid leaving a redirect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062  (10azatoth)
[10:50:23] <Lorolo>	hi
[10:50:39] <Lorolo>	i need the name of mediawiki message of the sidebar
[10:50:50] <MinuteElectron>	!sidebar | Lorolo 
[10:50:50] <mwbot>	Lorolo : To change links in navigation bar on the left, simply edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] in * list style. More details on <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Navigation_bar>.
[10:51:01] <Lorolo>	thx :)
[10:52:00] <seanw>	MinuteElectron, try silentflame.com now
[10:52:45] <MinuteElectron>	looks good
[10:53:36] <chat-de-plafond>	rargh seanw 
[10:57:55] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Numerals system in Arabic Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9959  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:58:30] <seanw>	MinuteElectron, it does, doesn't it? :D
[10:59:06] <seanw>	Fix my JS then chat-de-plafond 
[11:00:01] <MinuteElectron>	seanw: yeah
[11:00:26] <seanw>	Not sure there is enough space on the page with the narrowing Kevin has done
[11:00:28] <seanw>	But we shall see.
[11:01:29] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Articles counter on [[be:]] ought to be updated - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9998  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:01:41] <MinuteElectron>	There is enough space on a 1280x1024 size screen.
[11:03:49] <seanw>	MinuteElectron, I don't use that..
[11:03:55] <MinuteElectron>	I guessed.
[11:03:59] <seanw>	The most common screen is 1024x768 which is I have.
[11:04:15] <flyingparchment>	anyone still using 1024x768 needs to get out of the dark ages
[11:04:26] <seanw>	Oh great, it's river :P
[11:04:38] <seanw>	flyingparchment, I would love a bigger screen 8)
[11:04:43] <seanw>	Want to send me one?
[11:04:46] <Jack_Phoenix>	lol :P
[11:04:56] <flyingparchment>	you can have my old CRT if you buy me an LCD
[11:05:01] <flyingparchment>	it does 1600x1200 at 75Hz
[11:05:42] <chat-de-plafond>	CRT 1600x1200? that's impressive.
[11:06:56] *VoiceOfAll 	held out for a long time
[11:07:02] <VoiceOfAll>	I often preferred CRTs
[11:07:24] <VoiceOfAll>	I miss having 'black' and variable, clear, resolutions
[11:07:27] <chat-de-plafond>	dual 1600x1200 22" widescreen LCDs ftw
[11:07:33] <flyingparchment>	i dislike the idea of losing DPI (a 1600x1200 LCD would be physically too large) but i'm hoping the increased definition will let me used smaller fonts
[11:08:01] <chat-de-plafond>	flyingparchment: I have 1600x1200 LCDs..
[11:08:09] <chat-de-plafond>	they're 22", so yes, fairly big physically.
[11:08:31] <flyingparchment>	my crt is 17", that's a good size
[11:08:49] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Enable Import on it.Wikibooks for pages from it.wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10664  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:09:13] <chat-de-plafond>	you clearly don't know the excellence of having a 1mx30cm viewing area.
[11:09:43] <flyingparchment>	i've used large displays in the past.  didn't find it useful enough to justify.
[11:09:59] *MinuteElectron 	used a 17" CRT for 10 years at 1024x768 then upgraded to a 19" 1280x1024 LCD.
[11:10:17] <chat-de-plafond>	heh, I used to use a 14" laptop
[11:10:30] <chat-de-plafond>	stepping up to dual 22" widescreen is heaven.
[11:10:39] <flyingparchment>	my laptop does 1600x1200 too, at 15" ;-)
[11:10:58] <chat-de-plafond>	heh, 14" on my laptop is 1400x1050, I think.
[11:11:18] <VoiceOfAll>	1280x1024 is teh $hit
[11:11:32] <VoiceOfAll>	games can run on it with max graphics :D
[11:11:43] <flyingparchment>	i'm thinking about a widescreen lcd, seems like a reasonable compromise between 4:3 and dual-head
[11:11:57] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:12:09] <chat-de-plafond>	hey, I opened that bug about a year ago
[11:12:47] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[11:12:56] <MinuteElectron>	They should introduce psedo namespaces.
[11:13:03] <chat-de-plafond>	they do exist.
[11:13:05] <MinuteElectron>	+u
[11:13:27] <chat-de-plafond>	$wgNamespaceAliases or something.
[11:13:32] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Multilingual Wikisource and its language subdomains - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6338  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:13:56] <chat-de-plafond>	JeLuF: doing a good job on the bug-closing, hmm?
[11:15:27] <JeLuF>	I'm tempted to just close all of them and work only on those that get re-opened...
[11:15:45] <flyingparchment>	JeLuF: sounds like a US medical insurance company.  deny all by default :)
[11:16:16] <chat-de-plafond>	;-)
[11:17:23] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) Disable page creation for anons on bswiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9013  (10jeluf)
[11:18:18] <flyingparchment>	we should make users solve a polynomial expression before they can submit a shell bug
[11:18:19] <timichal>	we actually have WP->Wikipedie: on cswiki :)
[11:18:47] <chat-de-plafond>	flyingparchment: nah, make them write an essay
[11:19:06] <chat-de-plafond>	"Assess the negative affect of pointless bugs on the efficiency of Wikimedia development"
[11:19:08] <JeLuF>	flyingparchment: Let them prove P != NP
[11:21:52] <VoiceOfAll>	JeLuF: BSwiki?
[11:22:02] <VoiceOfAll>	seems like anon page creation would be good ;)
[11:22:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Configure additional import sources for French Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9135  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:23:25] <JeLuF>	over 20'000 articles. That's not too bad
[11:24:03] <MinuteElectron>	2,000,000 cool.
[11:24:17] <MinuteElectron>	This time they didn't make anyone a winner.
[11:24:47] <chat-de-plafond>	indeed. flyingparchment stabbed Raul when he asked him to try and figure out what #2mill was.
[11:25:04] <VoiceOfAll>	why does it matter?
[11:25:14] <VoiceOfAll>	who gives a flying parchment?
[11:25:46] <flyingparchment>	flying parchment is not to be given all willy-nilly
[11:26:55] <AzaTht>	sorry JeLuF 
[11:27:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313  +comment (10azatoth)
[11:27:43] <JeLuF>	AzaTht: That's fine. I won't fix it nevertheless :-)
[11:27:49] <AzaTht>	hehe
[11:27:55] <AzaTht>	can yopu fix 5678 instead?
[11:27:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[11:28:38] <JeLuF>	AzaTht: No. That's not a "shell" related bug. Not working at those.
[11:28:41] <JeLuF>	on
[11:28:58] <AzaTht>	a question, what does the resolution "REMIND" mean?
[11:29:07] <JeLuF>	no idea
[11:29:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	remind me later perhaps? o.o
[11:29:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	just a wild guess ;)
[11:29:33] <AzaTht>	hehe
[11:29:40] <JeLuF>	but how does it remind you, and when?
[11:29:50] <AzaTht>	and who is "me"?
[11:30:00] *VoiceOfAll 	listens to Alan Colmes radio
[11:30:04] <JeLuF>	AzaTht: You should really know who you are
[11:30:22] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: relative to the bugzilla entry dude!
[11:30:38] *chat-de-plafond 	ponders.. anybody here live in NYC?
[11:30:43] <AzaTht>	you are a dude right?
[11:30:57] <chat-de-plafond>	who me?
[11:30:59] <AzaTht>	no
[11:31:09] <AzaTht>	or yes...
[11:31:10] <AzaTht>	hmm
[11:31:14] <AzaTht>	going strange here
[11:31:31] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: have you tried mantis any time?
[11:32:12] <JeLuF>	AzaTht: Never heard about it. What is it?
[11:32:36] <AzaTht>	a bug tracking system
[11:32:37] <chat-de-plafond>	bugzilla replacement
[11:32:47] <AzaTht>	they have even mediawiki integration
[11:32:58] <AzaTht>	http://www.mantisbt.org/blog/?p=5
[11:35:03] <JeLuF>	argl
[11:35:04] <Dantman|FS>	^_^ I had Mantis running for Wiki-Tools at a point...
[11:35:08] <trashy>	hello here, I've upgraded my mediawiki 1.7.1 to 1.11.0rc1 today (with short URLs), and now viewing is ok but not editing... any hint ?
[11:35:15] <JeLuF>	how can one put links in a yellow bar at the top of the page?
[11:35:24] <flyingparchment>	JeLuF: ?!
[11:35:35] <Dantman|FS>	If it weren't for the fact we we're building a Forge site in Ruby we'd still be using it...
[11:35:40] <AzaTht>	08Like this?
[11:35:44] <JeLuF>	flyingparchment: mantisbt.org, I was looking for the link to their own bug tracker
[11:35:53] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: ?
[11:36:09] <Dantman|FS>	btw: GeSHi uses Mantis as their bugtracker... ^_^
[11:36:35] <AzaTht>	bmpx also uses mantis
[11:36:44] *flyingparchment 	likes JIRA
[11:37:02] <AzaTht>	http://bugs.beep-media-player.org/view_all_bug_page.php
[11:37:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) shell - activate AllowSlowParserFunctions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10330  (10londenp)
[11:37:04] <JeLuF>	bugzilla works fine for me.
[11:38:10] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: yes, it works, but not perfectly
[11:38:35] <JeLuF>	most of our problems are not tool related, though...
[11:38:46] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: true
[11:39:00] <chat-de-plafond>	trashy: "editing not ok".. please explain
[11:39:50] <Wiredtape>	hello, what command would i write to run the googlesitemap script in the maintnence directory
[11:39:51] <trashy>	well, when asking to edit http://doc.fedora-fr.org/index.php?title=Accueil, the wiki tries to modify the article Index.php
[11:39:55] <chat-de-plafond>	does it give you a blank page? does it scream in pain? is it busy wth your girlfriend? does it give you a message? does it act as though it works? does it pretend to not work and secretly work?
[11:39:57] <AzaTht>	JeLuF: would it be possible for me to get a copy of the bugzilla db (without any confidential information of course)?
[11:40:04] <chat-de-plafond>	Wiredtape: php <nameofscript>.php
[11:40:10] <chat-de-plafond>	AzaTht: pourquoi?
[11:40:13] <Wiredtape>	thank you chat-de-plafond
[11:40:21] <flyingparchment>	trashy: you set up your wiki to put articles in /, even though we keep telling people not to, didn't you?
[11:40:33] <AzaTht>	or at least some example bug reports
[11:40:40] <JeLuF>	AzaTht: well, file a bug request and we'll have a look at it. *hide*
[11:40:51] <AzaTht>	hehe
[11:41:05] <AzaTht>	would like to try http://www.cadencetools.org/projects/bugzilla2mantis/
[11:41:09] <trashy>	flyingparchment, I've read that, but I did not install this wiki, and I must now keep these urls because of google and co :/
[11:41:19] <flyingparchment>	trashy: downgrade
[11:41:21] <chat-de-plafond>	did you guys hear about the APEC security breach o/s?
[11:41:36] <flyingparchment>	trashy: you could file a bug, maybe it'll get fixed..
[11:41:51] <chat-de-plafond>	300mill of security, and 11 guys dress up as the canadian motorcade and get within meters of Bush's hotel.
[11:42:07] <JeLuF>	flyingparchment: Doesn't look like a MW bug to me, rather a problem with his rewrites.
[11:42:08] <chat-de-plafond>	comedians from a TV show.
[11:42:19] <AzaTht>	chat-de-plafond: who cares?
[11:42:20] <trashy>	flyingparchment, downgrading is not the solution, at long term :/ so I'll better change my config for articles not be in / do I ?
[11:42:21] <flyingparchment>	JeLuF: it was introduced by Tim's fix to the PATH_INFO // bug
[11:43:30] <chat-de-plafond>	AzaTht: well, breaching $300 million worth of security for a TV prank is amusing - I'm curious as to whether it was covered on o/s news?
[11:43:31] <trashy>	anyways, thanks for the help :)
[11:47:29] <AzaTht>	ok
[11:48:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Configure additional import sources on Italian projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11171  +comment (10jeluf)
[11:57:56] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r25685 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[11:57:56] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[11:57:56] <CIA-6>	* Bengali (bn)
[11:57:56] <CIA-6>	* Welsh (cy)
[11:57:56] <CIA-6>	* Sakha (sah)
[12:04:09] <mutante>	whenever i use the UDP packet method to get RC into IRC, e.g. "netcat -ulp ... |  irc -d -c .."  and  $wgRC2UDP stuff in LocalSettings, it works fine for the first few minutes, but after a little while it simply stops sending new updates, the client is still on the channel then but is quiet, when restarting it it works again right away and the same cycle begins
[12:12:06] <Frankmd>	heya, is there an extension out there that allows you to reference to images from the text? E.g. "In image 1 you see...". Then if you insert a new image (above image 1) image 1 automatically becomes image 2
[12:12:39] <Frankmd>	same for tables
[12:25:10] <lch>	* Received a CTCP VERSION from [sellout]
[12:25:13] <lch>	what was that about?
[12:25:39] <JeLuF>	*** sellout: No such nick/channel
[12:26:02] <lch>	note the brackets
[12:28:25] <JeLuF>	he didn't ctcp me
[12:32:19] <Wiredtape>	Hello, I have a bit of a probelm... I recently added a new namespace.. ( "Portal:" ) - the problem is, that before i added this i had a couple of articles with names such as Portal:1 Portal:2... - now if i want to access/delete these articles, i can't... it takes me straight to the portal namespace.. however, these articles still exist in the main namespace. does anyone know how to delete them (not through db?)
[12:32:53] <JeLuF>	run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php
[12:33:09] <JeLuF>	or rather, php maintenance/namespaceDupes.php --fix
[12:33:30] <Wiredtape>	JeLuF, will it automatically recognize the articles?
[12:33:43] <JeLuF>	yes
[12:33:47] <Wiredtape>	thank you.
[12:34:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313  +comment (10danny_b)
[12:34:28] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: here?
[12:35:47] <Wiredtape>	JeLuF, ran into an error -> *** cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 115 ***
[12:36:45] <JeLuF>	 php maintenance/namespaceDupes.php --fix --suffix=-old
[12:37:51] <Wiredtape>	so now it is renamed to *-old?
[12:37:57] <JeLuF>	yes
[12:38:02] <Wiredtape>	thank you very much
[12:38:20] <Wiredtape>	is there a list of the different scripts in maintenance dir? (and what they do?)
[12:38:33] <JeLuF>	don't think so, no
[12:39:13] <Wiredtape>	thx.
[12:39:45] <lch>	Wiredtape, most scripts have some info on what they do in them
[12:39:54] <lch>	either through some help parameter or comments in the code
[12:40:11] <MinuteElectron>	*grin*
[12:40:39] <Wiredtape>	:) - great..
[12:40:48] <lch>	MinuteElectron :P
[12:41:29] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, yeah
[12:41:40] <JeLuF>	and some of those scripts will not make any sense to you since they're only important for Wikipedia
[12:42:09] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: i already found it. brion change the behavior :-/
[12:42:24] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, yup.
[12:42:29] <_Danny_B_>	needs to be reverted
[12:42:35] <_Danny_B_>	doesn't have sense now
[12:43:04] <Wiredtape>	Is there any script in there to scan an article for existing article names?
[12:43:09] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, TimStarling moved the pseudoParse over to the Parser class and renamed it
[12:43:21] <TimLaqua>	can't revert.  ;-)
[12:44:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transwiki import on Swati projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10563  (10triyork)
[12:44:08] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: well but the format of summary can be reverted, can't it? loooking on r25590
[12:44:13] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, I'd agree with maybe a different notation, like /** header name **/ taht would parse differently
[12:44:48] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, 1 second, lemme try something.
[12:46:32] <_Danny_B_>	the current behavior totally lost the intended sense :-/
[12:46:39] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, hmm... yeah, it sorta did.
[12:47:19] <_Danny_B_>	because it's unrecognizible if new section was added or somebody just used summary "new section" in such existing section
[12:47:27] <_Danny_B_>	bad bad bad :-/
[12:47:35] <TimLaqua>	;-)  Brion did it!
[12:47:42] <_Danny_B_>	i know
[12:47:50] <_Danny_B_>	i said that above ;-)
[12:47:59] <_Danny_B_>	in 25590
[12:48:05] <TimLaqua>	just reiterating.  ;-)
[12:48:29] <TimLaqua>	I mentioned the behaviour change right after he did it.
[12:49:20] <TimLaqua>	Dunno - I see more value in changing it to something like /** ... **/ and then making it parse that differently.
[12:50:18] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, hey, maybe you could get an animated GIF that blinks "NEW!" in big red letters and put that in the MW:newsectionsummary  ;-)
[12:50:46] <_Danny_B_>	summaries don't support anything but wikilinks
[12:51:01] <TimLaqua>	oh yeah, and someone made it strip all that stuff out
[12:51:07] <TimLaqua>	including wikilinks.  ;-)
[12:51:30] <TimLaqua>	wait, that was for the anchors...
[12:51:35] <TimLaqua>	hmmm....
[12:51:43] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: tell me,pls: the /* */ is parsed somewhere else, correct?
[12:51:50] <TimLaqua>	yup
[12:54:40] <TimLaqua>	if only I could remember where...
[12:55:04] <_Danny_B_>	then your idea /** **/ is better than mine, since it will save the space in summary, especially in non-latin alphabet languages in case page name and/or section name is long-so the wikilink won't be stripped to fit 200 bytes
[12:56:13] <_Danny_B_>	because iiuic the summary has been saved in "message [[page#section|section]]" format, right?
[12:56:24] <TimLaqua>	yeah
[12:56:32] <TimLaqua>	the old way saved like that
[12:56:42] <_Danny_B_>	and now it would be "message /** section **/"
[12:56:54] <_Danny_B_>	or even "message"
[12:57:01] <TimLaqua>	yeah
[12:57:03] <_Danny_B_>	if $1 is passed to message
[12:57:46] <TimLaqua>	it would need $1 and $2 passed - prefixed text(f/ Title) and section name(stripped)
[12:58:05] <_Danny_B_>	would it?
[12:58:39] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, yeah, then you'd make a message like "New section: [[$1#$2|$2]]
[12:59:00] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, or that was one of my thoughts anyway.
[12:59:25] <_Danny_B_>	aaa, no - that's what i just mentioned that it isn't the best way since it consumes bytes quickly
[13:00:19] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, the message would be parsed when RC was loaded, not stored - it could be stored as /** ... **/
[13:01:13] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, Either way, were you going to re-open that bug?  or make a new one or something about it?
[13:01:35] <_Danny_B_>	aaa, then two messages should be for that? or am i missing something. btw: not only rc,also history and diffs, watchlist...
[13:01:56] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, works for one, works for all!  ;-)
[13:02:19] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, dunno, my brain's kinda fuzzy right now.  just woke up.
[13:02:28] <_Danny_B_>	so did i ;-)
[13:02:43] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: i thought i'll wait for brion to have a talk about it with him first. but i can reopen it if you think so
[13:02:59] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, well, it might be worth asking brion why.
[13:03:05] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, maybe there's a bigger reason
[13:03:10] <_Danny_B_>	exactly
[13:03:27] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, when I asked him, I wander ed off before I got a response.
[13:03:55] <_Danny_B_>	but my tip is he misunderstood the purpose little bit. happens, not a big deal.
[13:04:35] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, yeah.  Suggest the /** ... **/ notation if he's fine w/ making further changes to it.  I'll just wait for hte bug to reopen or remain forever closed.
[13:05:24] <_Danny_B_>	the current behavior is worse than the one which used to be
[13:05:51] <_Danny_B_>	because it can be simply confused with other meaning
[13:05:53] <TimLaqua>	dunno if I agree w/ that.  ;-)
[13:06:31] <_Danny_B_>	it's unrecognizible if new section was added or somebody just used summary "new section" in such existing section
[13:07:50] <_Danny_B_>	let's dive in svn and try to find where /* */ is handled and see if we could re-use it
[13:17:32] <Frankmd^>	is there an extension out there that allows you to reference to images from the text? E.g. "In image 1 you see...". Then if you insert a new image (above image 1) image 1 automatically becomes image 2
[13:18:10] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, Linker.php, line 830
[13:19:53] <_Danny_B_>	gimme some string for find dialog pls (i'm using web interfece and it doesnt number the lines:-/) thx
[13:20:07] <Duesentrieb_>	Frankmd^: i don't think so. would be tricky to do...
[13:20:19] <TimLaqua>	_Danny_B_, /\*
[13:20:51] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: aaa, yeah, should have think about that ;-)
[13:27:01] <_Danny_B_>	TimLaqua: so iiuic, there will be /** **/ (or other markup) behavior hardcoded for new sections to force it, right? we don't want to push people to write that - they'll write the summary (or rather say header) and it will be wrapped in /** **/ before saving in db, right?
[13:27:31] <TimLaqua>	right
[13:27:42] <TimLaqua>	the same way new sections are currently doing /* */
[13:45:16] <JOHANN>	Hello.I want to know if anyone can help me including a capability in mediawiki to create music scores?
[13:46:40] <Mbimmler>	JOHANN, do you know http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LilyPond ?
[13:46:56] <JOHANN>	nop
[13:47:08] <JOHANN>	should i install that??
[13:47:15] <JOHANN>	i use lilypond software
[13:47:30] <Mbimmler>	I don't know, I just looked whether there is already an extention which focusses on music scores
[13:47:37] <Mbimmler>	and it looks like someone has already developed it
[13:48:10] <JOHANN>	Ok, thank you
[13:48:37] <JOHANN>	i'm curious...how all you know too much about everything??
[13:49:15] <Mbimmler>	I just looked at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix ;-)
[13:49:29] <JOHANN>	ok, thx
[13:49:35] <JOHANN>	thnak you very much
[13:49:41] <Mbimmler>	no problem
[13:55:42] <tmm360>	good day!
[13:55:51] <tmm360>	i need help...
[13:56:21] <tmm360>	sorry, but my english isn't perfect....
[13:56:59] <root-80686>	just tell
[13:57:06] <tmm360>	i'have to modify the sidebar on the left of the page
[13:57:23] <tmm360>	in the wiki of my site
[13:57:27] <root-80686>	jepp, thats Mediawiki:Sidebar
[13:57:30] <tmm360>	navigation, etc...
[13:57:47] <tmm360>	how can I modify it?
[13:57:54] <root-80686>	edit Mediawiki:Sidebar
[13:58:32] <tmm360>	how can I find it? 
[13:58:40] <tmm360>	sorry but i'm a newbuy
[13:58:42] <root-80686>	the page is named like this
[13:59:07] <root-80686>	you may fill it in the search box
[13:59:38] <tmm360>	ok...
[13:59:56] <tmm360>	i write in the serach box Mediawiki:Sidebar?
[14:00:14] <root-80686>	yes, that would be a possible way
[14:00:28] <tmm360>	ok! find
[14:00:36] <tmm360>	now how can i modify
[14:00:56] <root-80686>	you can also open the special pages and look it up at Mediawiki System Messages
[14:01:01] <tmm360>	sorry! :)
[14:01:18] <root-80686>	tmm360: but you _do_ know how do use a wiki?
[14:02:04] <tmm360>	ok! excuse me...
[14:02:28] <root-80686>	found it?
[14:02:35] <tmm360>	i thinked i must modify with php code or a panel of control...
[14:02:48] <tmm360>	easy I modifi the page! :)
[14:02:59] <root-80686>	yes, that's what I said
[14:03:00] <tmm360>	thank'you very much!
[14:06:58] <CIA-6>	03jeluf * r25686 10/trunk/extensions/MagicNoNumberedHeadings/ (. MagicNoNumberedHeadings.php README): MagicNoNumberedHeadings extension was created so as to resolve bug 7832
[14:10:11] <tmm360>	only an other question....
[14:10:25] <tmm360>	how can i find a complete list of MediaWiki:*
[14:11:06] <tmm360>	Mediawiki: command
[14:11:38] <root-80686>	Special:Allmessages
[14:12:53] <tmm360>	Thank you an other time!
[14:17:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add Extension:Preloader - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11255 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:24:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Extension:Preloader should implement <preloadonly> - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11256 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Throttle; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:27:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:31:33] <x98>	Help!
[14:31:34] <x98>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[14:31:34] <x98>	    (SQL query hidden)
[14:31:35] <x98>	from within function "SearchMySQL4::update". MySQL returned error "126: Incorrect key file for table './wikiwldb/wl_searchindex.MYI'; try to repair it (db)".
[14:32:41] <x98>	This happens after every edit
[14:33:18] <x98>	(10.1)
[14:34:45] <faceface>	hi, I am trying to (partially) recode inputbox extension. How come whenever I make the extension output a <form> tag, mediawiki somehow turns that into <p><\p><form> ?
[14:38:52] <faceface>	"<p>Text here </p><form"
[14:39:00] <faceface>	always sticking in the <p>
[14:42:48] <faceface>	it's more than a little frustrating
[14:44:29] <faceface>	I have wiki code like "Text here <inputbox ...> </inputbox> is all on the same line". However, the mysterious <p>'s stop the text from appearing on the same line
[14:44:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241  +comment (10triyork)
[14:44:44] <faceface>	I want searchboxes (and inputboxes in general) inline
[14:44:58] <feltipen>	did you make the extension or are you hackin it?
[14:45:05] <faceface>	hackin
[14:45:23] <faceface>	the code is quite simple though... just dumps some html
[14:46:46] <Nikerabbit>	x98: try to do as it says
[14:51:07] <Nikerabbit>	faceface: form is block level element?
[14:51:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241  (10cbrown1023)
[14:56:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New messages translated in French language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11257 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[14:58:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) beta wikiversity, and others should be included in Special: SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11241  (10triyork)
[14:58:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Improper capitalization of ancillary topic pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11258 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (aaj)
[15:01:38] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add Extension:Preloader - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11255  +comment (10robchur)
[15:01:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension:Preloader should implement <preloadonly> - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11256  (10robchur)
[15:21:09] <Soroush83>	What's the difference between $wgAllowCopyUploads and $wgRemoteUploads ?
[15:21:16] <Soroush83>	They look to be the same
[15:29:07] <CIA-6>	03jeluf * r25687 10/trunk/extensions/PSINoTocNum.php: 
[15:29:07] <CIA-6>	* This extension realizes a new MagicWord __NOTOCNUM__.
[15:29:07] <CIA-6>	* If an article contains this MagicWord numbering in the
[15:29:07] <CIA-6>	* table of contents (TOC) is disabled by extra CSS.
[15:30:16] <mark>	do we need an extension for such a triviality? :)
[15:31:37] <Soroush83>	btw, How can I disable section editing tags in a skin
[15:32:38] <JeLuF>	mark: apparently. People don't add functionality to the core anymore
[15:32:55] <JeLuF>	it's not my code, I'm just committing it
[15:33:09] <mark>	by which you are approving it ;p
[15:35:29] <JeLuF>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[15:36:08] <mark>	insanity :)
[15:36:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Improper capitalization of ancillary topic pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11258  (10robchur)
[15:37:43] <JOHANN>	Hello. Can anyone visit this page and tell me if this is useful to typeset music in wikiarticles? If so, please tell me step by step what should i do to enable it please?Thank u very much
[15:37:48] <JOHANN>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LilyPond
[15:39:25] <Soroush83>	Johann, just copy the code to a file 
[15:39:42] <JOHANN>	hmmm, I'm a newbie
[15:39:51] <JOHANN>	i dont know too much
[15:39:55] <Soroush83>	and save it in extensions directory in your mediawiki and then
[15:39:59] <JeLuF>	johann: Do you want to add it to your wiki or to wikipedia?
[15:40:29] <JOHANN>	i only want to make music scores in a wikiarticle
[15:40:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  +comment (10gmaxwell)
[15:40:48] <_Danny_B_>	JeLuF: would it be such a big problem to add it to core?
[15:40:49] <Soroush83>	so the code is in the article
[15:40:49] <JeLuF>	Johann: and this article is *where*?
[15:40:56] <Soroush83>	you sent the link now
[15:41:15] <JOHANN>	in wikiversidad, the spanish branch of wikiversity
[15:41:41] <JeLuF>	.oO( http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 )
[15:42:11] <Soroush83>	oh, I got wrong I think. Johan wants to add it to es.wikiversity.org
[15:42:11] <JOHANN>	yeah, i wrote one reply there
[15:42:47] <Soroush83>	it that case, it's not possible Johan except
[15:43:12] <Soroush83>	wikimedia installs it on es.wikiversity
[15:43:25] <JOHANN>	ok, how can we do it??
[15:44:03] <_Danny_B_>	actually CSS hiding of toc numbers is worthless. numbers still stay there. there should be core support which would render toc without numbers at all
[15:45:00] <JeLuF>	Send patches.
[15:45:13] <Soroush83>	Does anyone know, What's the difference between $wgAllowCopyUploads and $wgRemoteUploads ?
[15:45:51] <Wiredtape_Away>	has anyone tried this extension -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Barrylb/Custom_article_editing_form_with_fields/CustomEdit.php ?
[15:46:32] <ST47>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRemoteUploads and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowCopyUploads
[15:46:36] <JOHANN>	souroush...you say that i wont be able then to make music scores?
[15:46:58] <ST47>	remoteuploads leaves the upload link while the special page is disabled
[15:47:07] <Soroush83>	if you want to do that in es.wikiversity, you can't
[15:47:14] <ST47>	allowcopyuploads allows users to upload from a website
[15:47:44] <JeLuF>	Soroush83: Well, DefaultSettings.php explains it quite well. The first one allows to upload images by providing the URL of an image instead of uploading it from your disc, while the second one allows you to have an "upload" link in the sidebar when uploads are disabled.
[15:48:12] <Soroush83>	thanks vey much. I think I got it
[15:48:14] <Soroush83>	all
[15:48:25] <JOHANN>	what about if i make the article in, for example, wikiversity.org and call it from es.wikiversity.org??
[15:49:18] <JOHANN>	while we wait for wikimedia to install that in es.wikiversity?
[15:49:30] <Soroush83>	Johann, the only way is to suggest the community
[15:49:49] <Soroush83>	of your wikiversity to install it there
[15:50:03] <Soroush83>	to have it installed there
[15:50:05] <JOHANN>	i did it....i sent emails too
[15:50:14] <JOHANN>	but no answers
[15:50:25] <JOHANN>	just people asking for it to be installed
[15:50:29] <Soroush83>	email to where?
[15:51:04] <Soroush83>	I think an admin should request it from wikimedia technical team
[15:51:17] <JOHANN>	yeah, i emailed to an admin
[15:51:33] <JOHANN>	but he told me he was not encharged of it
[15:51:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Djvu thumbnailing should dynamically select PNG or JPG. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11259 15enhancement; low; MediaWiki: Images; (gmaxwell)
[15:52:00] <Soroush83>	before that there must be concensus in wiki and that extension mustn't have any problems
[15:52:15] <Soroush83>	emailed to admim of your wiki?
[15:52:49] <JOHANN>	hmmm, i went ti mediawiki.org, the people encharged of the development of wikimedia
[15:52:53] <JOHANN>	to
[15:53:03] <JOHANN>	and i asked there
[15:53:15] <JOHANN>	and i emailed ti the guy i told you
[15:53:30] <JOHANN>	to*
[15:54:32] <Soroush83>	Johann, here isn't for what you want. #wikimedia is a better way. and I don't think they hear to you unless you are an admin in es.wikiversity
[15:55:20] <JOHANN>	ok, i'm not an admin...what else can you suggest to me?
[15:56:52] <Soroush83>	go to your wiki and tell it there. If the community don't protest, an admin from there can request it 
[15:57:07] <JOHANN>	ok, thank you very much
[15:57:13] <Soroush83>	you're welcome
[15:58:13] <facefacefaceface>	dumb network outages
[15:59:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833  +comment (10jeluf)
[16:03:31] <CIA-6>	03evan * r25688 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (Consumer.php OpenID.php README): 
[16:03:31] <CIA-6>	By default, add a link to login with OpenID to the personal URLs
[16:03:31] <CIA-6>	array. The link is styled with the OpenID logo, and can be hidden with
[16:03:31] <CIA-6>	a configuration option.
[16:03:31] <CIA-6>	Also, make the location of the OpenID logo a configuration option, in
[16:03:32] <CIA-6>	case the admin wants to move it (or the openid.net version disappears).
[16:10:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Resizing of edit box on screen using JavaScript - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9370  +comment (10eep)
[16:11:05] <ST47>	eww!
[16:14:50] <feltipen>	when accessing the mysql db from an external program, is it possible to extract information on existing category pages, like a list of all categories?
[16:15:20] <faceface>	feltipen, naturally
[16:16:00] <feltipen>	are categories stored in the text table? I know there's a categorylinks table but dont know what it's for
[16:16:55] <faceface>	feltipen, categorylinks (I think) stores the page <-> category link, therefore should give you exactly what you need
[16:18:18] <CIA-6>	03tstarling * r25689 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js: Make the applet height bigger than the status height in Cortado, fixes a bug in some versions.
[16:18:32] <feltipen>	hm
[16:18:41] <faceface>	feltipen, you know how to group by?
[16:19:16] <faceface>	I should point out that I am far from an expert on the schema, I just figure that logically it must be possible.
[16:19:23] <faceface>	you should study the schema docs to find out.
[16:19:38] <faceface>	to find out exactly what to do 
[16:21:29] <feltipen>	schema docs? Where do i find those
[16:21:35] <faceface>	google?
[16:21:43] <feltipen>	noice
[16:21:57] <feltipen>	i thought they were on another db heh, like "information_schema"
[16:21:59] <feltipen>	< newb
[16:22:12] <faceface>	nah
[16:22:22] <faceface>	there is tons on mediawiki.org
[16:37:52] <faceface>	I found that by putting my form in a div, and ensuring no newlines in the html for the form, it works (finally)
[16:38:18] <CIA-6>	03evan * r25690 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (OpenID.php README): 
[16:38:18] <CIA-6>	Add a configuration variable to let the admin set a policy on showing
[16:38:18] <CIA-6>	OpenID identity URLs in user pages. Possible values are 'always',
[16:38:18] <CIA-6>	'never', and 'user', to let the user whose page it is decide.
[16:38:18] <CIA-6>	If the config variable is 'user', shows a toggle in user preferences
[16:38:19] <CIA-6>	to let the user hide the OpenID identity URL.
[16:38:24] <faceface>	inputbox has to be the crappy-est extension ever... I would rewrite it if I had half a mind
[16:38:50] <feltipen>	really? i'm using it on my soon-to-launch wiki
[16:39:00] <feltipen>	when i tested it, doesnt seem to be very problematic
[16:39:13] <faceface>	feltipen, it works ok
[16:39:19] <faceface>	functionality is fine
[16:39:26] <faceface>	but if you want it to layout differently...
[16:39:39] <faceface>	and there are several 'branches' that should be merged.
[16:40:13] <faceface>	the extension basically says... 'your create box will look like this'
[16:40:34] <faceface>	and I am like ... er.. wait a moment... but the code is not so clean
[16:40:48] <faceface>	its not bad, but its not greate
[16:41:34] <feltipen>	heh
[16:41:43] <feltipen>	not as customizable as you'd wish?
[16:41:56] <faceface>	layout wise... nope
[16:42:13] <CIA-6>	03evan * r25691 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.php: Hide the "hideopenid" toggle if it won't do anything.
[16:42:17] <faceface>	it just demands a table... and like... well... if you want to put it in a table that should be your choice
[16:43:36] <faceface>	its tricky, but you can put the whole thing in a div, then put that where you like
[16:43:40] <feltipen>	ah
[16:44:15] <faceface>	my code is 'yet another inputbox hack', so I don't feel motivated to merge it...
[16:47:05] <feltipen>	hm
[16:48:03] <faceface>	it has already been improved by two separate authors, both making two separate extensions... if I were a better person I would merge all 4 versions
[16:49:27] <faceface>	anyway, Its working for me now. I can say cool stuff like "* Text here <inputboxX> \n type  = create \n width = 5 \n break = no \n </inputboxX> and here is all on the same line." and it works great.
[16:51:21] <faceface>	bye all 
[16:57:38] <Soroush81>	Does anyone know, how is it possible to hide [edit] at sections in a skin ?
[17:00:41] <Soroush81>	and also hiding the title of article if it is possible
[17:01:27] <A_Bach>	elo
[17:01:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833  (10raimond.spekking)
[17:02:54] <A_Bach>	i have a question,. is there a restriction for articles size? i was trying to post 0,5MB text and i cannot....
[17:02:55] <Soroush81>	all appear in $this->html('bodytext') 
[17:03:28] <Soroush81>	I havn't seen such problem !_Bach
[17:03:47] <Soroush81>	but it might be because of your browser
[17:04:19] <Soroush81>	a bot will surely put it for you or you can post it section by section
[17:04:20] <A_Bach>	i was trying in ff and by bot.... bot saying its done but art. is empty... hm,..
[17:05:21] <A_Bach>	ok, thanks.. i will try send in sections
[17:06:00] <Soroush81>	let me test myself A_Bach 
[17:06:35] <A_Bach>	Soroush81: f.ex. http://sandbox.dbc.wroc.pl/~a_bach/strony -> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:ABach/brudnopis3
[17:07:04] <A_Bach>	strony is list of art. 
[17:08:07] <Soroush81>	hmmm
[17:08:09] <A_Bach>	file have ~520k, http://sandbox.dbc.wroc.pl/~a_bach/miejscowosci have ~730k 
[17:08:25] <Soroush81>	I opened them but I didn't get what you mean
[17:09:54] <A_Bach>	i want to copy text from those pages to plwiki.
[17:10:01] <A_Bach>	to my sandbox
[17:10:14] <A_Bach>	in pl brudnopis = sandbox
[17:10:42] <Soroush81>	no I test it with a local wiki :)
[17:11:11] <Soroush81>	If I want to put it there I should make an account there
[17:11:48] <A_Bach>	i'm only teling what i want to do :)
[17:12:09] <Adriaan__>	Where do I go to see all updates to mediawiki software and all that/
[17:12:10] <Adriaan__>	?
[17:12:33] <Soroush81>	http://mediawiki.org :)
[17:22:06] <Soroush81>	A_Back, the bot has been uploading the file to my local wiki for a minute
[17:22:23] <A_Bach>	hm.
[17:22:23] <Soroush81>	!!!!
[17:22:46] <A_Bach>	then its problem with my bot and webprogram
[17:22:53] <Soroush81>	my computer is slow but not that much. 
[17:23:31] <Soroush81>	httpd is using over 90% of CPU !!!
[17:24:24] <Adriaan__>	kool
[17:25:27] <Soroush81>	I feel I'd better kill httpd or bot program. I can't stand it. 
[17:26:48] <A_Bach>	hehe
[17:26:49] <A_Bach>	ok.
[17:27:02] <Soroush81>	sorry, A_Bach. I couldn't upload it at all 
[17:27:08] <A_Bach>	i will send it in 10 pages insted of 1
[17:27:26] <A_Bach>	for me is ok ... thanks for all
[17:27:29] <A_Bach>	bye
[17:29:09] <Soroush81>	$this->html('bodytext') shows the title of article at the top of it and
[17:29:33] <Soroush81>	[edit] links as well. Isn't there a way to disable them?
[17:30:58] <Nikerabbit>	evening
[17:32:47] <Soroush81>	it's night here :)
[17:42:36] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) RSS XML BUG - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4580  +comment (10onekopaka)
[17:43:38] <romano2k>	hi everyone! how should I access the administration interface of mediawiki please?
[17:44:07] <ST47>	'administration interface'?
[17:44:20] <ST47>	You mean LocalSettings.php?
[17:44:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	there's no "administrator interface" like there's in some forums...there is Special:Userrights page though etc.
[17:46:35] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r25692 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: 
[17:46:35] <CIA-6>	* (bug 11257) Update French translations
[17:46:35] <CIA-6>	 Patch by Bertrand GRONDIN
[17:47:04] <romano2k>	Jack_Phoenix: i wish to add a rewrite rule, is that possible?
[17:47:06] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New messages translated in French language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11257  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:47:25] <Jack_Phoenix>	romano2k: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
[17:50:57] <Soroush81>	$this->html('bodytext') shows the title of article at the top of it and [edit] links as well. Isn't there a way to disable them?
[17:51:15] <robchurch>	Hide them with CSS?
[17:51:51] <Soroush81>	It looks possible
[17:51:57] <Soroush81>	I'll test it now
[18:02:26] <CIA-6>	03evan * r25693 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (Consumer.php OpenID.php): 
[18:02:26] <CIA-6>	For OpenID login link, add a "returnto" parameter for the current
[18:02:26] <CIA-6>	page, and return to that page on completion of login. EXCEPT if the
[18:02:26] <CIA-6>	current page is Userlogout, in which case don't set a returnto
[18:02:26] <CIA-6>	parameter.
[18:03:08] <omgs>	Hi
[18:03:28] <omgs>	It seems that the supported titles are h1 through h4, right?
[18:03:52] <Soroush81>	why don't you use == == ?
[18:04:51] <omgs>	Soroush81: I do, but ===== is shown as "=text"
[18:05:06] <omgs>	i.e, as h4
[18:05:24] <CIA-6>	03evan * r25694 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/TODO: Some todos have been todone, so plus them.
[18:06:33] <omgs>	More accurately, "=====text=====" html result is "<h4>=text</h4>"
[18:06:53] <omgs>	of course, extra inline classes overriden
[18:07:07] <omgs>	It's just curiosity, nothing else
[18:07:48] <CIA-6>	03tstarling * r25695 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/ (apache2.conf debian/changelog): Added LoadModule for autoindex, dir and setenvif. Removed some <IfModule> directives, it's better to fail noisily if they're missing.
[18:08:03] <Soroush81>	aye omgs, you're right
[18:08:57] <omgs>	I don't think it's too difficult to implement, because some day someone surely will need it
[18:09:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707  +comment (10beesley)
[18:10:02] <omgs>	I'm writing an extension to handle some numbering, and I added support to h5, but I've just realized that it's not supported, though it doesn't seem to harm
[18:14:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Full translation of Translate extension in French language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11260 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (bertrand.grondin)
[18:22:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add entries to robots.txt to block RFA/RFC/RFAR - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11261 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (bugzilla)
[18:27:19] <romano2k>	hi again! i'm having trouble with short urls
[18:27:24] <romano2k>	anyone could help?
[18:27:30] <romano2k>	i'm using apache2 and the .htaccess way
[18:31:34] <CIA-6>	03greg * r25696 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: Don't pass getTimestamp output directly to the db without a wrap.
[18:41:41] <romano2k>	i wish i could deny anonymous users to edit pages, how should I do?
[18:41:54] <Duesentrieb_>	read the faq
[18:41:57] <Jack_Phoenix>	see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access
[18:42:08] <Jack_Phoenix>	and RTFM too :)
[18:42:48] <romano2k>	i'll try, sorry :)
[18:42:57] <romano2k>	but i'm RTFMing for the short url thing
[18:43:00] <romano2k>	and i can't get this work
[18:44:26] <Jack_Phoenix>	neither could I, hehe :P
[18:46:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Parser function rendered improperly if condition branch begins with wikimarkup for lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11262 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (danny_b)
[18:47:36] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r25698 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 
[18:47:36] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[18:47:36] <CIA-6>	* Fixes and additions to 6 extensions for ar.
[18:50:44] <Wiredtape>	romano2k what's the prob with the short url?
[18:53:52] <kiba>	if I want to remove the wikipedia background,  I have to modify the skin file, right?
[18:54:20] <Wiredtape>	or you could change the image file itself..
[18:54:27] <Wiredtape>	into a blank..
[18:54:31] <kiba>	oh
[18:54:36] <Wiredtape>	however, it is preferable choice to mod the skin
[18:54:51] <Wiredtape>	no use loading an image that doesn't exist
[18:59:10] <juxo>	plz tell me MediaWiki can produce intersections of categories.
[18:59:22] <juxo>	because the categories are sets
[19:00:30] <juxo>	category intersections? anyone?
[19:01:02] <ST47>	juxo: yeah, if you have database access
[19:01:05] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r25699 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[19:01:05] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[19:01:05] <CIA-6>	* ar, bn, cy, hsb
[19:01:10] <ST47>	;)
[19:01:21] <juxo>	ST47: are there ready scripts/programs?
[19:01:48] <ST47>	There may be one for wikimedia wikis, ask in #wikimedia-toolserver 
[19:02:10] <juxo>	ST47: does it do intra-wiki or interwiki intersections?
[19:02:23] <juxo>	'k will do
[19:04:54] <kiba>	I am having problem with the logo
[19:05:41] <kiba>	$wgLogo = "Image:Libregamewiki.png";
[19:10:40] <juxo>	ST47: yes. I got url and email for a toolserver script which does exactly what I need
[19:10:46] <juxo>	:)
[19:12:16] <Soroush81>	I want to go to Page [[X]] on a hook. What command should i use?
[19:13:15] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r25700 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: * English name
[19:14:54] <Soroush81>	It is not nice to change window.location in
[19:15:00] <Soroush81>	an extension
[19:16:39] <Soroush81>	\quit bad luck. must leave now
[19:31:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222  (10roan.kattouw)
[19:35:31] <romano2k>	really can't get the short urls thing working
[19:35:35] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) bug in RenameUser extension for personal wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11007  (10bertrand.grondin)
[19:35:44] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r25701 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialIpblocklist.php: * Removed unused message
[19:35:46] <romano2k>	the rewrite engine seems to work
[19:37:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add entries to robots.txt to block RFA/RFC/RFAR - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11261   +shell (10robchur)
[19:38:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in RenameUser extension for personal wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11007  (10robchur)
[19:40:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add entries to robots.txt to block RFA/RFC/RFAR - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11261  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:40:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Entries to robots.txt to block deletion requests at es: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6746   +shell (10Platonides)
[19:41:27] <White_Cat>	hi
[19:41:37] <White_Cat>	how does one add two numbers in wiki markup?
[19:41:43] *White_Cat 	doesnt know math operations
[19:41:49] <White_Cat>	what are they called?
[19:46:34] <MinuteElectron>	White_Cat: {{expr:1+1}}
[19:46:44] <White_Cat>	thanks
[19:46:49] <White_Cat>	would that do divisions too
[19:46:53] <MinuteElectron>	Yep
[19:46:57] <White_Cat>	like (1+1)/2
[19:46:59] <romano2k>	still nobody for my short url problem?
[19:47:00] <MinuteElectron>	Yep
[19:47:09] <MinuteElectron>	White_Cat: You're welcome, enjoy the rest of your day.
[19:47:13] <Pathoschild>	MinuteElectron: {{#expr:1+1}} (with the pound sign).
[19:47:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:47:28] <MinuteElectron>	sorry.
[19:47:32] <Pathoschild>	:)
[19:47:37] <MinuteElectron>	Pathoschild: BTW the pund sign is £
[19:47:43] <MinuteElectron>	# = hash
[19:47:43] <Pathoschild>	sorry. :p
[19:47:47] <MinuteElectron>	XD
[19:47:53] <Shanel>	Dumbass. :P
[19:47:56] <Pathoschild>	:D
[19:48:31] <flyingparchment>	# = octothorpe
[19:49:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  +comment (10Platonides)
[19:49:29] <jperl>	does anybody know a hook where i can manipulate an articletext before it gets to the editor?
[19:49:35] <White_Cat>	MinuteElectron
[19:49:45] <White_Cat>	how can I write an exeption for a divide by zero?
[19:49:53] <MinuteElectron>	7/0
[19:49:58] <MinuteElectron>	{{#expr:7/0}}
[19:50:07] <White_Cat>	it returns a msg
[19:50:11] <MinuteElectron>	yeah
[19:50:15] <White_Cat>	I want it to return 0
[19:50:19] <MinuteElectron>	have you read the wikipedia article about it?
[19:50:19] <White_Cat>	http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:Y%C3%B6neticilik_ba%C5%9Fvurusu/%C5%9Eablon/Detay
[19:50:21] <White_Cat>	votes
[19:50:27] <White_Cat>	oh I know the thing
[19:50:29] <MinuteElectron>	7/0 is impossible
[19:50:32] <White_Cat>	yes
[19:50:37] <MinuteElectron>	it cannot return 0.
[19:51:14] <White_Cat>	{{#ifeq|{{#expr:7/0}}|Division by zero|0}}
[19:51:26] <MinuteElectron>	maybe
[19:51:27] <MinuteElectron>	try it
[19:52:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  (10wikip)
[19:55:12] <GBenemy>	hello
[19:55:25] <GBenemy>	i'm having trouble setting up short urls
[19:55:33] <GBenemy>	my .htaccess file is right
[19:55:50] <GBenemy>	and my $wgArticlePath is set to "/wiki/$"
[19:55:53] <GBenemy>	**$1
[19:56:05] <GBenemy>	but when i access my wiki
[19:56:28] <GBenemy>	the mod_rewrite takes me to /wiki/article and gives me a 404
[19:57:33] <Wiredtape>	GBenemy, without looking at your .htaccess file, i would only say that you should try "wiki/$1" without the first /
[19:57:46] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r25702 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php TranslateEditAddons.php): * Small fixes
[19:57:53] <Wiredtape>	however, it sounds more like a .htaccess problem
[19:58:04] <GBenemy>	ok i'll give it a shot
[19:59:00] <GBenemy>	nope
[19:59:02] <GBenemy>	didn't work
[20:00:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833  (10jeluf)
[20:02:36] <GBenemy>	brb, i have to disconnect, need to order pizzzza
[20:02:47] <MinuteElectron>	you are on dial-up?
[20:02:55] <GBenemy>	no 
[20:02:57] <GBenemy>	adsl
[20:03:06] *MinuteElectron 	looks that up on google.
[20:03:16] <GBenemy>	but whenever i make / recieve phonecall i get disconnected
[20:03:24] <GBenemy>	so if i /quit then it won't make ghosts
[20:03:25] <MinuteElectron>	oh, right
[20:03:27] <GBenemy>	:D
[20:04:01] <jperl>	GBenemy
[20:04:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Truncation of audio files in Cortado - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11232  summary (10tstarling)
[20:04:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833  (10raimond.spekking)
[20:04:18] <jperl>	if you're getting a 404, you're htaccess file might not be right
[20:04:59] <MinuteElectron>	jperl: he is gone
[20:05:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cortado does not play very short vorbis files. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11247  (10tstarling)
[20:06:30] <jperl>	oh sry, missed that
[20:09:45] <khatahn>	what's the easiest way to wipe the whole history of some specific page (or even the whole wiki)?
[20:10:55] <MinuteElectron>	khatahn: run maintenance/deleteOldRevisions.php from the command line.
[20:12:05] <GBenemy>	ok i'm back
[20:12:07] <GBenemy>	sorry
[20:12:11] <khatahn>	MinuteElectron: thanks a lot :)
[20:12:15] <GBenemy>	back
[20:12:34] <MinuteElectron>	21:04 < jperl> if you're getting a 404, you're htaccess file might not be right
[20:13:00] <GBenemy>	MinuteElectron: that didn't work, but i've noticed the re-write, doesn't re-write /wiki/ to /w/index.php5?title=$1 ti rewrites it to my base directory
[20:13:41] <MinuteElectron>	well, that could be a problem :)
[20:14:14] <jperl>	do you have the right to do a rewrite?
[20:14:55] <White_Cat>	MinuteElectron
[20:14:56] <White_Cat>	http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:Y%C3%B6neticilik_ba%C5%9Fvurusu/%C5%9Eablon/Detay
[20:15:03] <White_Cat>	Whats not working? :/
[20:15:26] <MinuteElectron>	what should be happening?
[20:15:35] <White_Cat>	a percentage should be calculated
[20:15:57] <GBenemy>	jperl: yes i do
[20:16:11] <White_Cat>	oh
[20:16:13] <White_Cat>	I fixed it
[20:16:15] <White_Cat>	silly me
[20:16:19] <MinuteElectron>	White_Cat: Well, 100% of zero is simultaneously 0 and 100 percent.
[20:16:21] <White_Cat>	tho the percentage has too many digits
[20:16:34] <White_Cat>	http://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikipedi:Y%C3%B6neticilik_ba%C5%9Fvurusu/Vay&action=purge
[20:16:50] <White_Cat>	is there an exp for significant digits?
[20:17:10] <MinuteElectron>	maybe
[20:17:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) page-level links to uploaded PDF files [[media:foo.pdf#Page=n]] do not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4198  (10Platonides)
[20:18:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  (10Platonides)
[20:18:30] <jperl>	GBenemy which rewrite base did you set
[20:19:09] <MinuteElectron>	White_Cat: There is a page on meta about this.
[20:20:11] <GBenemy>	jperl /~username
[20:20:17] <GBenemy>	hmm
[20:20:19] <GBenemy>	actually
[20:20:23] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r25703 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for 5 localisation files in Translate.
[20:20:50] <GBenemy>	hmm no nevermind
[20:20:53] <GBenemy>	sorry, go on
[20:22:40] <jperl>	and in which directory is your wiki?
[20:22:45] <White_Cat>	MinuteElectron can you link me to it
[20:22:53] <MinuteElectron>	maybe
[20:23:41] <MinuteElectron>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Calculation
[20:24:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymous users to create pages in non-talk, non-article namespaces. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11240  (10matthew.britton)
[20:24:57] <jperl>	GBenemy if your wiki is in the top directory simply the rewrite base is wrong
[20:26:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymous users to create pages in non-talk, non-article namespaces. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11240  +comment (10axel9891)
[20:26:40] <GBenemy>	my wiki is in /w/
[20:26:52] <GBenemy>	omg
[20:27:04] <GBenemy>	now i'm getting 500 when i go index.php5?title=
[20:27:15] <GBenemy>	and that use to work atleast
[20:27:24] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Movie still disappears when activating player if no player available - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11041  +comment (10tstarling)
[20:28:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymous users to create pages in non-talk, non-article namespaces. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11240  (10robchur)
[20:29:21] <jperl>	did you remove the rewritebase?
[20:29:50] <GBenemy>	no i'm not sure what to do
[20:30:29] <jperl>	If your wiki is just under public_html (ie, domain.ext/wiki), remove the 'RewriteBase' line
[20:30:33] <GBenemy>	just delete "RewriteBase /~username"
[20:30:38] <GBenemy>	it's not
[20:30:47] <GBenemy>	it's under
[20:30:52] <GBenemy>	the /full/ path
[20:30:53] <GBenemy>	is
[20:31:11] <GBenemy>	 /home/content/g/b/e/gbenemy/html/codetango/w/
[20:31:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:31:35] <Wiredtape>	GBenemy, why don't you just post your rewrite rules..
[20:31:35] <GBenemy>	and basically i want it to appear as http://codetango.gbenemy.com/wiki/Articla
[20:31:40] <Wiredtape>	in pastey.net
[20:31:43] <GBenemy>	ok
[20:32:07] <jperl>	well why don't you rewrite to the full path`
[20:32:11] <jperl>	or do you?
[20:32:37] <GBenemy>	http://pastey.net/73635
[20:32:41] <GBenemy>	im
[20:32:42] <GBenemy>	i got
[20:32:57] <GBenemy>	http://codetango.gbenemy.com/w/index.php5?title=Main_Page
[20:32:59] <GBenemy>	working again
[20:33:13] <MinuteElectron>	Why do you have 3 rewrite rules?
[20:34:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  (10robchur)
[20:34:12] <jperl>	what is your apache document root?
[20:34:19] <Wiredtape>	GBenemy, where does codetango.gbenemy.com end up?
[20:34:28] <Wiredtape>	(or jperl's question)
[20:34:38] <GBenemy>	it ends up
[20:34:46] <GBenemy>	http://codetango.gbenemy.com/wiki/
[20:35:05] <GBenemy>	which is somehow re-written back to http://codetango.gbenemy.com
[20:35:10] <Wiredtape>	i mean, does it lead to  /home/content/g/b/e/gbenemy/html/codetango
[20:35:19] <GBenemy>	erm yes
[20:35:21] <GBenemy>	it does
[20:35:54] <GBenemy>	RewriteBase /home/content/g/b/e/gbenemy/html/codetango ?
[20:36:37] <Wiredtape>	well... only if apache's redirect isn't already into  /home/content/g/b/e/gbenemy/html/codetango
[20:36:50] <GBenemy>	um i don't know
[20:37:23] <Wiredtape>	either way the best thing to do is to log the rewrite rules.. let me remember how you do that...
[20:37:58] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: your rewritebase should be /
[20:38:12] <Wiredtape>	RewriteLog "/usr/local/var/apache/logs/rewrite.log"
[20:38:25] <Wiredtape>	and rewriteloglevel 9
[20:38:28] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: it should be the *web* path of the directory that *contains* w and wiki. thus, your document root, aka /
[20:39:12] <GBenemy>	wiredtape: i don't have access to that
[20:39:21] <GBenemy>	Duesentrieb
[20:39:29] <GBenemy>	even with the rewrite base as "/"
[20:39:30] <Duesentrieb_>	whot?
[20:39:40] <GBenemy>	when i go to /wiki/ 
[20:39:41] <Duesentrieb_>	you donÄt have access to what exactly?
[20:39:54] <GBenemy>	it just displays the main page the level abve it
[20:40:05] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: first of all, don't try /wiki/, try /wiki/Main_Page
[20:40:07] <GBenemy>	to /usr/local/var/apache/logs/reqrite,log
[20:40:10] <GBenemy>	i did
[20:40:20] <Wiredtape>	GBenemy, that's an example
[20:40:23] <GBenemy>	it just displyas the index from the above directory
[20:40:26] <Wiredtape>	put the log file wherever you want
[20:40:36] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: well, the rewrite base should be /, definitely. since i haven't seen your rules, i can't tell you what's going wrong
[20:41:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Interface for a hidden vote ability for RFAs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11263 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko)
[20:41:18] <jperl>	[22:32] GBenemy: http://pastey.net/73635
[20:42:02] <jperl>	did you already find out what his document root is
[20:42:07] <Wiredtape>	is the *."php5" there on purpose...? (is the 5 there on purpose)
[20:42:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interface for a hidden vote ability for RFAs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11263  (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko)
[20:42:17] <Duesentrieb_>	jperl: pastey is dead for me
[20:42:47] <GBenemy>	jperl: it's exactly the same
[20:42:51] <GBenemy>	hey gtg for dinner
[20:43:37] <Wiredtape>	Guys/Gals, has anyone tried this extension -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Barrylb/Custom_article_editing_form_with_fields/CustomEdit.php ?
[20:44:29] <Wiredtape>	is there a better one to do the same thing?
[20:44:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:48:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interface for a hidden vote ability for RFAs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11263  +comment (10robchur)
[20:48:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  We do not reject mismatched file types on upload for many extensions. Ogg, pdf, mid, sx*, svg, xcf. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10823  +comment (10Platonides)
[20:50:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow exporting pages in printable document format (PDF) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474  summary (10Platonides)
[20:52:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  We do not reject mismatched file types on upload for many extensions. Ogg, pdf, mid, sx*, svg, xcf. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10823  +comment (10tstarling)
[20:57:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) fullImageLink on image page for pdfs links to the image page, not the file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11264 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (Platonides)
[20:58:41] <Wiredtape>	is it possible to write something into the edit of an article, but not let it appear in the article itself...
[20:58:53] <Wiredtape>	basically hidden text?
[20:59:10] <Duesentrieb_>	<!-- yes -->
[20:59:26] <Reedy_Boy>	lol
[21:00:35] <Wiredtape>	hehe
[21:00:38] <Wiredtape>	silly me
[21:00:42] <Wiredtape>	ok
[21:00:46] <omgs>	Duesentrieb_: do you remember my crusade with numbering?
[21:00:58] *Duesentrieb_ 	shudders
[21:01:02] <Duesentrieb_>	hack the skin.
[21:01:08] <omgs>	I already solved and contributed it with enhancements
[21:01:20] <omgs>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:H1_CSS
[21:01:21] <Duesentrieb_>	good then :)
[21:02:49] <omgs>	I hope it is useful to someone
[21:03:04] <omgs>	I don't know if I missed something, so please comment
[21:03:37] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Export pages returns "No pages to import" when using export file to move pages. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8354  +comment (10Platonides)
[21:06:39] <feltipen>	Where in the mysql interface can i extract actual content from an entry?
[21:08:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) X-FORWARDED-FOR related documentation patch - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9896  (10N/A)
[21:17:59] *TimStarling 	campaigns for less competition in the browser market
[21:18:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  (10Platonides)
[21:19:02] <TimStarling>	developing for 6 different browsers each with their own set of bugs is not much fun
[21:19:33] <ST47>	6?
[21:19:50] <ST47>	IE, FF, Opera...what more is there?
[21:20:38] <Wiredtape>	konquerer
[21:20:53] <Wiredtape>	defintely not fun at all..
[21:21:11] <Wiredtape>	not to mention different versions of IE have different bugs..
[21:21:23] <Wiredtape>	anyway, good night.. 
[21:21:31] <TimStarling>	safari
[21:21:33] <TimStarling>	so make it 5
[21:21:37] <TimStarling>	6 was a guess
[21:22:52] <TimStarling>	someone just told me you can get safari on windows
[21:23:08] <TimStarling>	so I downloaded it and discovered that *none* of the video player options appear to work on it
[21:23:33] <TimStarling>	there was a report that QuickTime wasn't working, but java seems to be broken too, and VLC isn't looking too good
[21:23:55] <GBenemy>	hello again
[21:28:22] <TimStarling>	I don't know why they bothered, the user interface is almost identical to firefox
[21:28:32] <TimStarling>	they should have just forked firefox and rebadged it
[21:28:53] <_Danny_B_>	TimStarling: am i right you're the author of parser functions?
[21:29:02] <TimStarling>	yes
[21:29:32] <_Danny_B_>	TimStarling: would you mind to take a look on bug 11262 when having a piece of time, please?
[21:31:39] <TimStarling>	no idea why it would do that
[21:31:56] <TimStarling>	is it a regression?
[21:33:31] <robchurch>	TimStarling: (Regarding "developing for 6 different browsers each with their own set of bugs is not much fun") - fucking amen.
[21:34:07] <robchurch>	For that matter, Amen to Safari f/ Windows being a waste of time.
[21:34:49] <GBenemy>	Ok: i still need help with the rewrite
[21:34:51] <GBenemy>	basically
[21:34:58] <GBenemy>	i deleted the .htaccess
[21:35:09] <GBenemy>	and the $wgArticlePath line from localsettings
[21:35:14] <GBenemy>	i wanna start from the begining
[21:36:20] <_Danny_B_>	TimStarling: looks like, it used to work back in oct 2006, when i added this kind of expression to one template
[21:39:47] <robchurch>	Simetrical's rockin' the mailing list.
[21:40:42] <Simetrical>	Just a comment.
[21:42:04] <Simetrical>	params.height < statusHeight ? statusHeight : params.height;
[21:42:18] <Simetrical>	Or in other words, Math.max( statusHeight, params.height ).
[21:42:37] *Simetrical 	is too lazy to test the change, though, so isn't going to bother
[21:43:07] <GBenemy>	ummm anyone?
[21:43:48] <TimStarling>	Simetrical: what about it?
[21:43:59] <TimStarling>	are you saying that one is better than the other?
[21:44:06] <Simetrical>	TimStarling, I find "x > y ? x : y" considerably harder to read.
[21:44:17] <TimStarling>	I find them about the same
[21:44:23] <Simetrical>	Try telling it at a glance from "x > y ? y : x".
[21:44:24] <jperl>	GBenemy you should first simply try to rewrite from /wiki/ to your /w/index.php
[21:44:36] <jperl>	the rest isn't the problem
[21:44:39] <Simetrical>	Or "x < y ? x : y", or "x < y ? y : x".
[21:44:39] <GBenemy>	i did, remember?
[21:44:43] <GBenemy>	it didn't work
[21:44:56] <jperl>	because you have something configured wrong
[21:45:00] <GBenemy>	i followed the directions on [[m:Manual:Short_URL]]
[21:45:09] <jperl>	if you can't do that simple thing all the others won't work either
[21:45:12] <GBenemy>	yes but how do i know what?
[21:45:56] <jperl>	did we already figure out what your base directory is?
[21:46:22] <jperl>	what is your domain again?
[21:47:16] <GBenemy>	http://codetango.gbenemy.com
[21:47:22] <GBenemy>	the wiki is in /w/
[21:47:37] <GBenemy>	but i want it to display as /wiki/ i got it to work on my other website, without any hassles
[21:48:04] <jperl>	well i think you did it the wrong way
[21:48:11] <jperl>	if I'm entering http://codetango.gbenemy.com/w/
[21:48:16] <VoiceOfAll>	Simetrical: http://www.nabble.com/stable-versions-tf4407608.html
[21:48:19] <jperl>	it redirects me to wiki
[21:48:23] <GBenemy>	yes
[21:48:33] <GBenemy>	which is what i want
[21:48:35] <GBenemy>	except
[21:48:49] <jperl>	no you don't want that
[21:48:54] <GBenemy>	i want the /wiki/ to display /w/index.php5?title=
[21:49:01] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: put your .htaccess on a pastebin. that should be the .htaccess of the docrout, not of /w or something
[21:49:03] <jperl>	you want that /wiki/ is internally rewritten to /w/index.php
[21:49:13] <GBenemy>	yea
[21:49:19] <GBenemy>	you've seen the .htaccess
[21:49:25] <Duesentrieb_>	i havn't.
[21:49:32] <GBenemy>	http://pastey.net/73635
[21:49:36] <GBenemy>	oh sorry
[21:49:43] <Duesentrieb_>	pastey was dead for me a minute ago
[21:49:52] <Duesentrieb_>	ah got it now.
[21:50:12] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: as i have said before, RewriteBase must be /
[21:50:18] <VoiceOfAll>	bah, link doesn't work
[21:50:34] <GBenemy>	Duesentrieb_ and as i replied, that doesn't work
[21:50:36] <VoiceOfAll>	"It's hard to get the MediaWiki developers to commit much
[21:50:37] <VoiceOfAll>	of anything, it seems to me.  Citizendium might be
[21:50:39] <VoiceOfAll>	interested, perhaps you could talk them into hosting a
[21:50:40] <VoiceOfAll>	MediaWiki fork with your modification. "
[21:50:46] <VoiceOfAll>	hehe, that's pretty funny
[21:51:02] <jperl>	where are the files which are shown at  http://codetango.gbenemy.com
[21:51:20] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: doesn't work how? it's the right thing, /~userdname is DEFINITELY COMPLETELY wrong.
[21:51:34] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: the last rule also looks odd.
[21:51:51] <jperl>	well he's not listening to us
[21:51:59] <GBenemy>	jperl: /w/
[21:52:15] <GBenemy>	or http://gbenemy.com/codetango/w/
[21:52:19] <jperl>	they are also in /w/?
[21:52:20] <GBenemy>	either
[21:52:22] <GBenemy>	no
[21:52:27] <GBenemy>	they are /only/ in /w/
[21:52:37] <GBenemy>	 /wiki/ doesn't exist
[21:52:43] <jperl>	yea thats clear
[21:52:52] <jperl>	i also set up some wikis
[21:53:10] <Simetrical>	VoiceOfAll, he's largely right, though.  We don't usually bother looking at submitted patches.
[21:53:19] <jperl>	another try: whats the absolute path to the files which are shown with  http://codetango.gbenemy.com
[21:53:30] <feltipen>	damnit, nero wont let me burn 2gb files
[21:53:34] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: what now,  http://gbenemy.com/codetango/ or  http://codetango.gbenemy.com/ ?
[21:53:44] <VoiceOfAll>	some one else said: "For the record, although I have given up on theMediaWiki developers, I do believe this would
[21:53:45] <VoiceOfAll>	be a good thing if someone used it.  Alsomake sure Google caches the stable versions. "
[21:53:47] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: only ONE of them will work. you can't have rewrite rules that work for both.
[21:53:52] <GBenemy>	codetango.gbenemy.com
[21:53:54] <GBenemy>	is a subdomain
[21:54:01] <jperl>	clever boy
[21:54:04] <GBenemy>	pointed at gbenemy.com/codetango
[21:54:10] <GBenemy>	just like
[21:54:19] <GBenemy>	en.wikipedia.org is pointed at wikipedia.org/en
[21:54:34] <GBenemy>	and images.google.com to google.com/images
[21:54:54] <Duesentrieb_>	en.wikipedia.org is not pointed at wikipedia.org/en.
[21:54:56] <robchurch>	If nobody's looked at your patch, it's because [a] nobody's interested in your feature or [b] nobody's seen it or [c] nobody understands why you're doing it or [d] it's something a bit more demanding like OCaml, and nobody's had time to set up the environment required to compile and test
[21:55:19] <Duesentrieb_>	if you map a subdomain to a directory, that directory should NOT be accessible via another web path.#
[21:55:32] <Simetrical>	robchurch, generally nobody even comments.
[21:55:48] <Simetrical>	However you break down the possibilities, that's not a good thing.
[21:55:49] <VoiceOfAll>	I've seen fucked up patches, but I do at least comment
[21:56:04] <VoiceOfAll>	And [a] is pretty big too ;)
[21:56:06] <robchurch>	I'd like to think I comment now and again, but again, if I'm not interested, I guess I can't be fucked to comment.
[21:56:11] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: but that's beside the point. first of all: change your wgArticlePath back to using ugly urls. get the rewrite stuff working first.
[21:56:33] <Simetrical>	And if people do comment, most of the time it's an idle thing and they aren't interested in following up, even if they theoretically agree that the feature should be in the software.
[21:56:48] <GBenemy>	ok done
[21:56:55] <GBenemy>	all rewrites are gone
[21:57:03] <GBenemy>	and urls are back to ugliness
[21:57:24] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: good then. change the RewriteBase to /
[21:57:26] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Improper capitalization of ancillary topic pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11258  +comment (10danny_b)
[21:57:37] <Duesentrieb_>	even if that should not solve your problem, it WILL cause problems if it's something else
[21:57:42] <GBenemy>	yup
[21:58:17] <omgs>	Is the info at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#Initial_user_was_not_created_by_installer accurate?
[21:58:21] <GBenemy>	what do i put as WriteCond and WriteRule
[21:58:32] <GBenemy>	**RewriteCond and RewriteRule
[21:58:40] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: the most important rule is RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ w/index.php5?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA]
[21:58:44] <omgs>	The user_rights table doesn't exist at my installation
[21:58:47] <Duesentrieb_>	which looks correct. remove the others for now.
[21:58:53] <GBenemy>	ok
[21:59:02] <omgs>	However, the trick seems to work
[21:59:08] <Duesentrieb_>	omgs: it should be user_groups
[21:59:13] <GBenemy>	ok, so now upload that?
[21:59:29] <Duesentrieb_>	upload? well, however you put it live on the server. yes
[21:59:57] <GBenemy>	yes
[22:00:06] <omgs>	Duesentrieb_: I don't think so
[22:00:12] <omgs>	"UPDATE user_rights SET ur_rights = 'sysop,bureaucrat' WHERE ur_user = <id>;"
[22:00:13] <GBenemy>	ok done
[22:00:25] <Duesentrieb_>	omgs: i have no idea what the user_rights stuff is about... maybe it's for an extesion or something?
[22:00:54] <GBenemy>	ok now /wiki/ just redirects me to /w/index.php5?title=
[22:00:57] <omgs>	That second sentence seems not to be necessary, at least in standard installations
[22:01:04] <omgs>	Or maybe it's for old versions
[22:01:09] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: and see: it works. http://codetango.gbenemy.com/wiki/Main_Page
[22:01:26] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: now, change your wgArticlePath accordingly (to /wiki/$1)
[22:02:40] <GBenemy>	thank you so much Duesentrieb_
[22:02:44] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: thre reason /wiki/ redirected to /w/index.php5?title= was this: the wiki redirects you to the main page if you give no path. the url for that redirect is constructed using wgArticlePath, which was set to ugly.
[22:02:54] <GBenemy>	yeah
[22:02:56] <GBenemy>	thanks
[22:02:57] <GBenemy>	:D
[22:03:16] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: no problem. add this one: RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA] 
[22:03:22] <Duesentrieb_>	not sure if you want/need the others
[22:03:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Button which is the same size as the player it covers is bad for some use cases . Player button causes linebreaks. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11250  (10tstarling)
[22:04:44] <GBenemy>	what will that one do?
[22:05:32] <Duesentrieb_>	omgs: there's no user_rights table in mediawiki
[22:06:09] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: make sure /wiki also works, not only /wiki/
[22:06:37] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: the normal "directory redirect" feature doesn't work for rewrites, you have to do it explicitely 
[22:06:47] <GBenemy>	oh good point
[22:07:00] <Duesentrieb_>	omgs: hm... maybe it existed in *very* old versions? 1.3 or something?
[22:07:25] <GBenemy>	thanks :D
[22:07:27] <GBenemy>	they both work now
[22:11:27] <Duesentrieb_>	GBenemy: you may want a redirect from / to /wiki/ too, perhaps: Redirect /index.html http://codetango.gbenemy.com/wiki/
[22:17:11] <Duesentrieb_>	omgs: I fixed the FAQ. user_rights was for 1.4. 1.3 was different still. 
[22:17:31] <omgs>	Duesentrieb_: ok
[22:17:40] <GBenemy>	i already have
[22:17:50] <Duesentrieb_>	fine then
[22:17:52] <GBenemy>	i used content refresh in the headers of index.php
[22:17:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) An Edit link for the "in other languages" box in the left of wiki page. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11191  +comment (10danny_b)
[22:17:57] <GBenemy>	but thanks for the tip :D
[22:18:03] <Duesentrieb_>	ugh, don't do that
[22:18:06] <Duesentrieb_>	html redirects are evil
[22:18:08] <Duesentrieb_>	use http
[22:18:44] <Duesentrieb_>	you can even do that in php: header("Location: http:....");
[22:18:50] <GBenemy>	yea i know
[22:19:04] <Duesentrieb_>	well, whatever. have fun. 
[22:19:16] <GBenemy>	will do, thanks for all your help, once again :D
[22:32:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Alt. Text in Articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11205  (10danny_b)
[22:39:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Distinguish between full protection and semi-protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11211  (10danny_b)
[22:42:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) HTML comments inside parserfunctions cause substitution to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11212  15enhancement->normal (10danny_b)
[22:44:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [edit] should not occure in printable version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11213  summary (10danny_b)
[22:48:59] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: you can modify component lists in bugzilla, right?
[22:49:20] <robchurch>	Me personally, or in general? Yes to both.
[22:52:59] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: Wikimedia product contains "Site requests" component which says it's for _creating_ of new sites. I miss component for site requests in the meaning of "create namespace, install extension" etc... so either new component (perhaps something like site setup?) would be good or the description to site request should change a bit. There's "language setup" which by its description also doesn't exactly fit this case...
[22:53:24] <robchurch>	I think Simetrical and I discussed this very briefly previously.
[22:53:39] <_Danny_B_>	what was the result?
[22:53:41] <Simetrical>	The description of "language setup" fits it.
[22:53:46] <Simetrical>	At least, most closely.
[22:53:49] <Simetrical>	But the names suck.
[22:53:59] <_Danny_B_>	right
[22:54:03] <robchurch>	I agree our components are badly named, but ideally we need to be able to migrate bugs in them to the right "new" components, preferably without spamming everyone with a dozen silly notifications.
[22:54:27] <Simetrical>	I said it should be "Site creation" and "Site configuration" or something, whereas Rob doesn't want to rock the boat.  ;)
[22:54:28] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: New languages or fixes to language settings. - this is hardly understandable for nonenglish speaking people :-/
[22:54:38] <robchurch>	Unrelated bitch: Why the hell do I need to know that user-joe@some-porn-site.com has CC'd himself to a bug?
[22:54:46] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, it's not understandable to English-speaking people either, don't worry.  :)
[22:54:51] <Simetrical>	robchurch, you can't disable that in preferences?
[22:54:57] <robchurch>	I thought it might be wikibugs' subscription settings, but of course, wikibugs is now a global CC.
[22:55:23] <Simetrical>	Haha.
[22:55:24] <Simetrical>	Sucks for it.
[22:55:27] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: bug 10842 ? ;-)
[22:55:38] <robchurch>	_Danny_B_: Possibly, I don't intend to look..
[22:56:05] <_Danny_B_>	it's "Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only" - you can vote for it ;-))
[22:56:14] <robchurch>	Being a global CC, wikibugs can't change its subscription settings to not be notified of such things, as I tried to do that time everyone got a message saying wikibugs was being impersonated.
[22:56:44] <Simetrical>	Live hack!
[22:57:19] <robchurch>	I haven't found the place in the BugZilla admin config page where you can set that, so I can't see if there are any "global CC subscription settings"...
[22:59:21] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: "we need to be able to migrate bugs in them to the right "new" components," -couldn't this be done by simply renaming of the component?
[22:59:40] <robchurch>	The way things are, there may be dozens of bugs in the component which won't fit under the new roles.
[22:59:57] <robchurch>	Those would need to be moved, and any bugs from other components which should be in the new one would need to be moved.
[23:00:10] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: i like your two proposals
[23:00:28] <Simetrical>	robchurch, they don't fit under the current roles either, because the current roles make no sense.
[23:00:37] <robchurch>	:)
[23:00:41] <Simetrical>	It's not like the difference is important for existing bugs, either.
[23:00:46] <robchurch>	Shall we embark on a big cleanup project, then?
[23:00:47] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical hits the nailhead
[23:00:51] <Simetrical>	As long as they're marked with shell, they'll be dealt with eventually.
[23:00:57] <robchurch>	Yes. Eventually.
[23:01:00] <Simetrical>	The problem is that people are confused when *filing* the bugs.
[23:01:13] <_Danny_B_>	exactly
[23:01:34] <Simetrical>	Allowing ever more miscategorized bugs to pile up isn't preferable to freezing the miscategorizations now, and letting them disappear over the next few months as they're resolved.
[23:01:35] <_Danny_B_>	i'm willing to volunteer on cleanup
[23:02:00] <robchurch>	Well, on the other hand, if I were a Joe Average and I filed a namespace creation request on behalf of a wiki, I wouldn't expect it to take six months to be dealt with.
[23:02:12] <Simetrical>	Well, no.
[23:02:15] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: only svn extensions are as items in component list of extensions, right?
[23:02:17] <Simetrical>	But that's a separate issue, isn't it.
[23:02:21] <robchurch>	_Danny_B_: Yes.
[23:02:44] <robchurch>	It makes no sense at all for us to start tracking bugs for extensions we don't maintain, or which people can't post patches against our repository for.
[23:03:21] <_Danny_B_>	the "site configuration" component should probably contain in its description something like "mind the adding of shell keyword"
[23:03:37] <robchurch>	Well, the keyword is not a 100% necessity really.
[23:03:52] <robchurch>	If there's an open bug in the "site configuration" component, then it's pretty much a shell issue.
[23:04:13] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: right, i actually was going to ask if all extensions are there, which seems to me they aren't
[23:04:42] <_Danny_B_>	yes, if there was site configuration component, then it's pretty much selfexplanatory
[23:05:00] <_Danny_B_>	but language setup is hellaconfusing
[23:05:07] *Simetrical 	wants to be able to tag something reviewed- like on mozilla.org
[23:05:20] <robchurch>	Reviewed? You mean, like triaged?
[23:05:29] <robchurch>	Or QA reviewed?
[23:05:35] <robchurch>	(Which is essentially CONFIRMED)
[23:05:40] <Simetrical>	QA reviewed, I mean, patches.
[23:05:47] <Simetrical>	And the point is reviewed-.
[23:05:52] <Simetrical>	As opposed to reviewed+.
[23:05:58] <Simetrical>	I.e., "I reviewed it and it sucks."
[23:06:01] <robchurch>	Ah, right.
[23:06:08] <robchurch>	I'll add a "patch-crap" keyword... ;)
[23:06:32] <Simetrical>	What Mozilla has is something like this.  If you want review, you set review?.  Then someone authorized can set that to either review+ or review-.
[23:06:41] <robchurch>	Hmm, right.
[23:06:49] <robchurch>	I don't use the Mozilla Bugzilla often.
[23:06:59] <Simetrical>	I've voted for, I think, well over a hundred bugs there.
[23:07:01] <_Danny_B_>	reviewed keyword already exists
[23:07:19] <robchurch>	_Danny_B_: That just means, "this patch has been reviewed by any old person".
[23:07:22] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, but it's semi-pointless since anyone can add it.
[23:07:40] <_Danny_B_>	aaa, i see what you meant now
[23:07:46] <Simetrical>	Really, the two important things to know are: is it requested that a developer review this for commit?  And: has a developer reviewed this and found it wanting?
[23:07:48] <robchurch>	It doesn't tell you if the person was a developer or not, and it doesn't tell you if they looked at it and killed somebody in code-rage, or if they started choking over its beauty.
[23:07:58] <_Danny_B_>	only devs (or trusted people)could add it
[23:11:46] <_Danny_B_>	well, 2300 opened bugs shouldn't be so hard to do cleanup in
[23:13:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) QT + XiphQT playback on OSX does not work. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11249  (10tstarling)
[23:15:25] <robchurch>	So, "Site requests" => "Request new site" and "Language setup" => "Configuration changes" ?
[23:16:31] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Google search with [[Google:search term]] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:16:35] <Duesentrieb_>	robchurch: perhaps put "Wikimedia: " up front
[23:16:51] <robchurch>	It's in a "Wikimedia" product!
[23:17:06] <Duesentrieb_>	ah, right, sorry
[23:18:29] <CIA-6>	03ivanlanin * r25704 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesId.php: Indonesian (id) localisation updates.
[23:19:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings + PSINoTocNum Extensions in kshwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216  +comment (10danny_b)
[23:21:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  An extension to create list of most recent articles in 1-3 categories. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1411  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:22:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Media links should display icons according to type - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1578  -patch -reviewed ; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:25:09] <ST47>	can 11213 be fixed without resorting to insanity?
[23:27:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Token to suppress table of contents autonumbering - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4127  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:29:11] <Simetrical>	ST47, yes.
[23:29:20] <Simetrical>	Wait, what?
[23:29:21] <Simetrical>	No.
[23:29:26] <Simetrical>	At least not the way it's done now.
[23:29:28] <ST47>	Didn't think so ;)
[23:30:51] <ST47>	Is there a tag for that? wontfix?
[23:32:17] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) [edit] should not occure in printable version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11213  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:32:24] <ST47>	:)
[23:33:50] <flo>	hi. Where can i edit the items of the navigation sidebar pls?
[23:33:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interface for a hidden vote ability for RFAs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11263  (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko)
[23:36:37] <Simetrical>	flo, see the FAQ.
[23:38:55] <flo>	thx. havent seen it yet
[23:39:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) History pages to clearly display bot edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222  (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko)
[23:40:04] <White_Cat>	Simetrical you have a minute?
[23:40:58] <Simetrical>	White_Cat, if you have a question, ask.
[23:41:55] <White_Cat>	Simetrical okay
[23:42:00] <White_Cat>	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11222
[23:42:02] <White_Cat>	about that
[23:42:16] <White_Cat>	do you think the link can be added as an auto summary by mediawiki
[23:42:20] <White_Cat>	that would be fine by me
[23:42:41] <White_Cat>	it wouldnt even be dependent then
[23:42:51] <Simetrical>	There's no reason to make it an autosummary.
[23:43:05] <Simetrical>	Really, autosummaries are inelegant altogether, but especially for something like this.
[23:43:36] <White_Cat>	Simetrical new users wouldnt know what a bot is
[23:43:46] <White_Cat>	small wikis dont even have a bot policy
[23:44:05] <White_Cat>	there needs to be a connection... :/
[23:44:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark bot edits in histories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11181  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:44:32] <Simetrical>	I suggest you ask for the "b" thing to allow wikitext.
[23:44:59] <White_Cat>	Simetrical but you told me to make it a seperate bug
[23:45:00] <White_Cat>	so I did
[23:45:04] <White_Cat>	then you declined it
[23:45:07] *White_Cat 	is confused
[23:45:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Token to suppress table of contents autonumbering - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4127  +comment (10danny_b)
[23:47:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Token to suppress table of contents autonumbering - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4127  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:50:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [edit] should not occure in printable version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11213  (10danny_b)
[23:52:48] <netquik>	Hi
[23:54:36] <_Danny_B_>	Simetrical: was it you who was working on new positioning of [edit]?
[23:54:46] <netquik>	My problem is: I've installed mediawiki and i'mtrying to do short UR (installerd in www/wiki and using subdomain wiki.example.com)
[23:55:31] <_Danny_B_>	!shorturl | netquik
[23:55:31] <mwbot>	netquik: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups.
[23:55:32] <netquik>	all seems okay... but when editing URLS (ora do other actions) the page is always index.php
[23:55:57] <netquik>	I've already follow that
[23:56:40] <netquik>	the proble is when using subdomain
[23:56:44] <Simetrical>	_Danny_B_, oh, yes, that.
[23:56:45] <Simetrical>	Dammit!
[23:56:50] <Simetrical>	I said I wouldn't forget about it.
[23:57:11] *Simetrical 	goes to look again at brion's solution, right after he's done with this commit
[23:57:52] <netquik>	I used "muscatelli" solution
[23:58:23] <CIA-6>	03simetrical * r25705 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Moved inline markup in signup and login forms to CSS, and dealt with some of the associated directionality issues in the process.
[23:58:39] <netquik>	but i'cant editing any page (it shows the "New" indes.php)
[23:59:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Allow different directionality for user interface and wiki content - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6100  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)