[00:04:10] 03(NEW) HTML dosn't work in Badaccess-group1 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11303 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (steinninn) [00:08:35] 03(NEW) Upload file link does not work on the en. wiki secure server - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11304 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (MZMcBride) [00:10:35] whee, I got Lightbox working for thumbnails. [00:25:59] hello [00:26:04] Fatal error: Call to a member function getPage() on a non-object in /var/www/sites/libregamewiki/HTML/extensions/SocialRewarding/SocialRewardingOtherFunctions.php on line 176 [00:27:30] Is there a way to see what extensions are enabled on a mediawiki site ? [00:32:40] Special:Version [00:33:17] flyingparchment: heya - uh, before i slump into bed - you where looking for me earlier? [00:33:32] oh, yeah. but it doesn't matter now [00:34:14] kk. good night then [00:35:41] flyingparchment: thanks [01:19:31] 03(NEW) ESWIKI : Enabling " blocked users can edit their own talk page" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (pdsanchez) [01:21:26] 03(mod) ESWIKI : Enabling "blocked users can edit their own talk page" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 (10pdsanchez) [01:22:53] 03(mod) ESWIKI : Enabling "blocked users can edit their own talk page" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 -easy +shell (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:40:10] Ok, what's the option in LocalSettings to disable anonymous edits? [01:40:31] $wgReadFAQ = true; iirc [01:40:37] Can't find it in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings_%28alphabetical%29 [01:40:52] Nothing on the FAQ btw. [01:41:07] oh wait [01:41:17] Damn english, was looking for 'registered users' [01:44:07] missed 'anonymous' completely. [01:44:18] Oh well, many thanks. [02:20:55] 03david * r25803 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Completely incomplete new-user-messages, including specialwatchlist hook and one instance of mTitle in EditPage that had previously been missed. [02:25:48] 03david * r25804 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (33 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) [02:25:48] Merged revisions 25752-25803 via svnmerge from [02:25:48] svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [02:25:48] ........ [02:25:48] r25752 | siebrand | 2007-09-10 15:49:17 -0700 (Mon, 10 Sep 2007) | 2 lines [02:25:49] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [02:25:51] * bcl, bn, fiu-vro, ko, sah, sr-ec [02:30:43] hi friends [02:31:29] christ is lord repent [02:37:43] Bulgarious: do you by chance have something wiki related to say? [02:38:16] *jeremyb wonders if external links have been disabled on [[mw:]] [02:38:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ævar_Arnfjörð_Bjarmason#Work_on_MediaWiki [02:38:27] yeah [02:38:29] christ is lord [02:38:35] is that wiki related enough you atheistic jizzmop [02:39:35] Bulgarious: {{fact}} [02:40:04] haha [02:40:22] *jeremyb was going to point to [[WP:BLP]] too... [02:48:54] btw, i got there from [[mw:]] but it wasn't actually on mw.org, oops [02:52:57] 03(mod) Create Upper Sorbian (hsb) and Lower Sorbian (dsb) Wikipedia's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5681 +comment (10pathoschild) [03:01:29] Hi everyone! [03:01:33] i wanna do a thing. [03:01:41] Let me know if this is possible: [03:01:50] i want editors to be able to add a template to a page ... [03:02:07] and that reference is *automagically* referenced by another page [03:03:18] for example, i stole the calendar from another wiki. when you click on a date, i want to list events for that date. If the event you're adding is a birthday, you slip in the birthday icon template. Later, you can click a SHOW ME ALL BIRTHDAYS link to see a page listing links to all the date pages with birthdays on em. [03:03:39] but the birthdays are MAGICALLY, DELICIOUSLY added to that page when you use the template [03:03:40] dig? [03:03:42] possible? [03:05:42] Um . . . do you want categories? [03:05:45] And category pages? [03:05:49] hmm ... [03:06:05] i don't know. picture this: you click on the calendar to go to August 17th. [03:06:30] on that date's page, you add a few events - the birthday of Joe Smith and the Big Pants holiday [03:06:59] you also add a couple of little "holiday" and "birthday" icons [03:07:50] then you go back to the main page and click on the "SHOW ME ALL THE BLOODY BIRTHDAYS" link. It takes you to a page that has a lis of links. The links each take you to one of the calendar date pages that lists a birthday and uses the little icon. [03:08:27] but that whole last bit was done automatically - you didn't have to explicitely add anything to the "BLOODY BIRTHDAYS" page. [03:09:01] i now that technically this is automatically done on the "pages that link here" listing ... [03:09:07] but that's kind of an ugly sloppy listing [03:23:47] 03(NEW) Create the Upper Sorbian Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11306 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chanel5) [03:24:02] ;D [03:24:21] *Shanel dances. [03:24:25] :D [04:27:09] i asked this earlier in another channel but i'll ask here, as they referred me! [04:27:20] i would like to strip the parser from the rest of the mediawiki source [04:27:29] i have a different framework i have to fit it around [04:27:48] i looked in Parser.php and i couldn't successfully find a way to call the function and I sort of need help extracting it [04:27:52] or finding a third party option [04:28:15] Everyone wants to do that. [04:28:20] Sadly, it's a bloody pain in the neck. [04:28:26] Undoubtedly possible, though. [04:28:32] yes, sir? [04:28:49] is there a small set of instructions that you give everybody coming here asking that? [04:29:04] Never tried it, so I don't have any. [04:29:25] what is the call to the function? [04:29:39] Parser->parse( $text ); [04:29:46] I think. [04:29:50] Usually it's called indirectly. [04:29:55] howso? [04:30:11] OutputPage, wfMsgWikiHtml, wfMsgExt, etc. [04:30:36] OutputPage.php is in includes/, right? [04:30:53] Pretty much everything is. [04:31:13] Tim recently added some stuff in includes/filerep/ for some reason. [04:31:22] And there's also languages/ and maintenance/, but those are special-purpose. [05:14:49] Hi. I would like to gain commit access to one of the mediawiki extensions (Farmer). Are there any lead developers in here? [05:16:08] brion_away, Tim-away ping [05:16:13] (i guess they are away...) [05:18:16] indeed [05:18:23] email the list, or them [05:18:30] johnjosephbachir: away... would be the best to write brion an email: brion at wikimedia dot org [05:20:18] + $this->dieUsage("``{$params['title']}'' doesn't exist", 'missingtitle'); [05:20:24] Raymond__: okay, thanks [05:20:38] I thought this abuse of accent stopped then years ago, what's up with it now? [05:21:32] can [05:21:34] uh.. dunno [05:21:41] 't be that hard to use proper quotes [05:22:45] Nikerabbit, it's still the standard in Linux documentation intended for the command line. [05:24:52] that wasn't command line linux documentation [05:25:04] and even that looks ugly nowdays, so no point in using it [06:12:20] has anyone here worked with $wgSharedDB? [06:12:59] 03(mod) Old edit attributed to old user name after name change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11288 (10rs_2500) [06:19:47] 14(INVALID) Old edit attributed to old user name after name change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11288 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:29:17] hey people: hope all is good [06:29:43] has anyone had success with a category selector for articles [06:31:19] like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mrenoch/CategoryExtras [06:31:21] or [06:31:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SelectCategory [06:31:39] i am using latest MW [06:40:12] thanks [07:16:26] 03(NEW) enable import from most sister projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11307 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (ariel) [07:29:33] <_wooz> lo [07:30:14] TimStarling and his All-to-All ideas [07:43:23] oh [07:43:30] brion did the "I don't like" trick [07:48:14] people should start adding "Mentored by: " lines to commit messages [07:58:59] 03(mod) PATCH: fix for shared user table with $wgSharedDB - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2396 (10j) [08:34:17] Hey guys has anyone here used dumpHTML.php with any success? [08:48:25] loxs: well, what's the problem you are haviong? [08:48:56] Well even though im using --image-snapshot [08:49:08] Im not seeing the images in the pages [08:49:15] and the monobook stye isnt working either [08:50:03] loxs: find out what urls are generated for css and js links, anf for img sources. check how they are different from the ones that would work. [08:50:58] loxs: if all else fails, try to catch TimStarling around. he's usually here later in the day [08:53:32] yeh i mean i have looked at all the html ill try catch that chap about [08:53:32] tried everything to get it woring properly just not having any off it [09:11:26] 14(INVALID) Some special pages error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 +comment (10ycombarnous) [09:17:18] 03(mod) Warning: Cannot modify header information - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11272 (10ekompute) [09:20:21] 03(mod) Support Microsoft SQL Server - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9767 (10steve) [09:46:44] hey Raymond_ :) [09:47:48] hi Jack_Phoenix :) [09:47:55] *Jack_Phoenix waves [10:40:01] http://www.noooxml.org/petition [10:47:20] 03(mod) Notice: unserialize() Error when using Postgres - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11292 +comment (10purluno) [10:51:18] Prax01D -> thanks for posting the petition. [10:51:53] Prax01D: http://www.uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nobody_cares [10:53:37] chat-de-plafond: sez you. [10:56:14] pass it along. [11:05:12] 03(NEW) Allow the API to output the image metadata - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Bryan.TongMinh) [11:08:36] 03(mod) Allow the API to output the image metadata - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [11:33:48] 04(REOPENED) Some special pages error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 +comment (10robchur) [11:34:56] 03(mod) Set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit for Spanish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 summary (10robchur) [11:54:24] 03(mod) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 (10dars_vaeda) [12:16:34] good afternoon [12:17:05] what could be the reason for mediawiki to not show an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Image:foo.png image? [12:17:17] oh, that wasn't what i meant, sorry [12:17:33] what could be the reason for mediawiki to not show an Image:foo.png image? [12:17:53] insert square brackets around that... [12:17:54] because no such image exists :) [12:18:00] no, it's there [12:18:05] in images/foo.png [12:18:15] 03(mod) Some special pages error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 (10ycombarnous) [12:18:29] i have a few other images in other pages, and they work ok [12:19:28] if i click the image "link" i come to the normal image editing page [12:19:37] and there i can view the image just fine [12:19:46] 03(mod) Some special pages generate error on invalid titles (null title ) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 summary (10ycombarnous) [12:20:24] 03(mod) Improper handling of invalid titles in some special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 summary (10ycombarnous) [12:21:12] could the name be bad? it's called "Hardware-architecture.png" [12:21:29] can't see how a dash could break anything though [12:21:37] and png images work fine elsewhere [12:21:59] same permissions on the raw file as for other images that do work [12:22:10] 03(mod) Improper handling of invalid titles in some special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 (10robchur) [12:22:11] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700 (10robchur) [12:22:38] 03(mod) Improve report page pagination - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11269 summary (10robchur) [12:23:07] 14(INVALID) Bug in a java script : keyword or instructions does not work anymore - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11223 (10robchur) [12:24:56] 03(mod) Feature to categorise IP edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11197 (10robchur) [12:25:36] chakie_work: does the image description page for that image exist? does it show an upload history, and the actual image? [12:25:42] chakie_work: is the image very large? [12:26:02] Duesentrieb_: it exists [12:26:04] 14(DUP) Alt. Text in Articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11205 +comment (10robchur) [12:26:05] 03(mod) Show summaries of page content on link hover - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503 +comment (10robchur) [12:26:27] Duesentrieb_: it shows the history too (i uploaded the image once more) [12:26:55] Duesentrieb_: the image is 2kb, 700x500 [12:27:03] png [12:27:09] url? [12:27:29] http://smultron.net/wiki/index.php?title=Architecture [12:27:35] that's where it should be [12:27:54] 03(mod) Special page to show earliest contributions for each user - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11147 normal->low; summary (10robchur) [12:28:21] chakie_work: Hardware-architecture.png (2KB, MIME type: text/plain) [12:28:29] chakie_work: the mime type detection went wrong. [12:28:40] ah [12:28:54] i had to turn off the mime recognition as per the faq [12:29:25] turning it off is always a bad idea. where and why does the faq say you should disable it? [12:29:29] i can't access the needed log files so i couldn't upload anything at all [12:29:46] that... doesn't make sense. [12:29:52] needed log files? [12:29:55] 03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130 summary (10robchur) [12:30:05] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Uploading_files#The_file_is_corrupt_or_has_an_incorrect_extension._Please_check_the_file_and_upload_again. [12:30:07] chakie_work: can you give me a link to the faq? [12:30:27] $wgVerifyMimeType = false; [12:31:22] as i said, very bad idea. [12:31:28] yeah [12:31:32] use $wgMimeDetectorCommand = "file -bi" [12:31:49] doesn't that require access to the log files? [12:31:57] at least that's how i interpret that text [12:32:08] but let me try that [12:32:38] chakie_work: there's no relation to log files [12:32:44] no, it doesn't need the log files [12:32:49] as that works [12:33:05] but what does the inner bullet mean then? [12:33:38] chakie_work: btw: that FAQ sucks. canonical usage info is on mediawiki.org: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Mime_type_detection [12:33:52] oh [12:34:03] i just googled for the error i got :) [12:34:19] and that faq was the first hit [12:35:18] anyway, it seems to work fine now and the image shows up as it should :) [12:35:18] i'll put a note there. [12:35:43] the stuff about the log file is arcane. it seems to tell you where you find error messages. and it apparently only applies to SELinux. [12:35:52] oh [12:36:06] i thought it somehow got the mime type by looking at the log file... [12:36:16] which imho sounded quite fragile :) [12:38:46] that would be silly [12:44:01] yeah, it would [12:44:11] Duesentrieb_: a big thank you for the help [12:44:27] np [12:46:18] wheeeee \o/ [12:55:33] 03(mod) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 (10dars_vaeda) [12:57:30] does anyone now if its possible to move the contents table? instead of having it at the top have it down the side or something? [12:59:26] hi i updated to 1.11 from 1.10 but i run into problems, can i return to 1.10 like updating to 1.11 (overwriting files and rerun setup) or will this create more problems? [12:59:44] what kind of problems? [12:59:59] editing [13:01:09] have you updated all of your extensions? they may cause problems [13:01:48] hi, it seems there are still charset update problems with mediawiki 1.11 [13:02:02] no i should be a mod_rewrite problem [13:02:11] but i'm not so sure about it [13:02:18] http://rafb.net/p/5hVfqN31.html [13:02:23] but anyway it worked in 1.10 so i want to return to it [13:03:10] 03(mod) Set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit for Spanish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 (10Platonides) [13:03:11] heheeeeee [13:03:14] more people in the thread [13:03:18] who joins next? :) [13:04:24] what? flamewars? where? :) [13:04:38] wikitech- [13:04:39] l [13:04:43] Rob feels offended [13:05:07] which thread? :) [13:05:15] so can i return by updating procedure or should i use my backup? [13:06:45] mark: "[Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-CVS] SVN: [25778] trunk/phase3" [13:06:52] thanks [13:06:55] mark: brion reverted our yesterday's changes :( [13:16:49] btw, your bugzilla doesn't allow new registrations!!!! [13:16:58] at least I don't get a confirmation mail [13:17:03] that makes it a bit hard to report bugs [13:17:16] hanno: tssss! nobody should know we have this measure [13:23:09] I'm tempted to reply that Dalton guy [13:23:57] 03(mod) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 +comment (10thomas.dalton) [13:24:16] wooo [13:24:18] the very same one [13:25:28] *archivist wanders off to read more wikitech spam [13:26:45] thats a very lovely list! [13:36:09] 03(mod) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 (10robchur) [13:42:07] domas|25: oh it is ;) [13:42:18] VoiceOfAll: I didn't understand the idea of your reply [13:43:14] my problem is that it doesn't make literal sense, pages don't link to "Main:" or NULL :) [13:43:17] someone wanting to fix Hashar's AjaxShowEditors extension? doesn't seem to be compatible with 1.11... "Detected bug in an extension! Hook wfAjaxShowEditorsShowBox failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort." [13:44:07] it just adds to the counter-intuitive hacks that make it harder to understand code, and it's not semantically in the right place [13:44:31] domas|25: and yes, NULL, would be better at least [13:44:50] VoiceOfAll: I'm about mentioning of our discussion [13:45:01] as if I was doing anything wrong back then by engaging into it and not knowing everything [13:45:05] =) [13:45:20] domas|25: no, you were being mean to rob about the index :) [13:45:44] rob was mean about the feature [13:45:47] and a bit mean to me [13:46:14] 04(REOPENED) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 (10dars_vaeda) [13:47:04] VoiceOfAll: and the quote was from https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Server_admin_log [13:47:14] How do I change the content of the menu to the left (browse) in my mediawiki? [13:47:28] SlimG: look for "sidebar" in the faq [13:47:40] 03(NEW) Getting error when updating from 1.8.* - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11309 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (mediawiki-bugzilla) [13:47:41] "why do people think that reindexing recentchanges because of minor link is a good idea?" [13:47:59] domas|25: he though you were off the ball [13:48:08] lol, what a tangled web we weave [13:48:15] VoiceOfAll: he always thinks that [13:48:19] thats the problem [13:48:25] hmm? [13:48:40] VoiceOfAll: there were many incidents in past where rob would be offended and start attacking back ;-) [13:48:42] He can be a bit oversensitive I guess, sometimes [13:48:48] Duesentrieb_: Thanks [13:48:50] never trying to understand, what is the problem [13:49:43] though quite often to attack others :) [13:49:45] whai is the extension that is used to feed recentchanges into an irc channel? [13:49:52] *what [13:49:58] i think it's in core [13:49:59] uhm, I doubt it is an extension [13:50:07] in core? [13:50:13] we just send out UDP stream, and there is a listener that dumps that to IRC [13:50:16] where exactly ? [13:50:16] but you need a program to convert the udp data into an irc stream [13:50:49] I just want to know the relevant part of the code [13:51:26] ThomasV: $wgRC2UDPAddress [13:51:35] thanks [13:52:01] 03(NEW) Image page deletions not restored after image deleted, reuploaded, and deleted revs restored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [13:53:16] 14(INVALID) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 +comment (10daniel) [13:53:59] domas|25: is the listener code available ? [13:54:25] ThomasV: it is, .. [13:54:25] Platonides: to convert udp to irc, use netcat -u -p 12345 | irssi ... [13:54:42] ThomasV: there're few scripts in subversion, but yeah, many workarounds exist [13:55:19] which directoty ? [13:55:28] *ry [13:57:57] domas|25: i've been wanting to replace the $wgRC2UDP cruft with a more flexible system for a loooong time... [13:58:16] Duesentrieb_, so irc.wikimedia.org uses irssi? :O [13:58:27] 03(mod) Image page deletions not restored after image deleted, reuploaded, and deleted revs restored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 +comment (10Platonides) [13:59:04] Platonides: no, that's a custom c program written by river. it also does demultiplexing (sends messages to different irc channels, depending on message prefix) [13:59:18] actually multiplexing is tim's stuff, mxircecho [13:59:20] is udpmcast.py such a listener ? [13:59:22] (i wrote the original ircecho) [13:59:27] C program? [13:59:28] ah, i see :) [13:59:29] "ircbot.py by Joel Rosdahl " [13:59:53] Platonides: udprec.c is C, yes [14:00:28] and in which part is updrec.c ? :s [14:00:40] it receives UDP traffic and sends it to mxircecho [14:00:47] 03(mod) page editing does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11293 (10dars_vaeda) [14:01:26] ah, ok the "netcat" part of the chain [14:02:09] 03(mod) Image page deletions not restored after image deleted, reuploaded, and deleted revs restored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 (10N/A) [14:03:12] Duesentrieb_: yeah, that could use some refactoring [14:03:58] i wrote a patch way back, but it was never committed. went stale by the time o got commit access, and since then, i've had other stuff to do. [14:04:11] but it has been bothering me again now. if i can find the time, i'll fix it soon [14:07:29] 03(mod) Image page deletions not restored after image deleted, reuploaded, and deleted revs restored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 (10Platonides) [14:07:39] what system are you proposing? [14:11:04] 03(mod) Image page deletions not restored after image deleted, reuploaded, and deleted revs restored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 (10N/A) [14:11:25] Platonides: a set of classes that can send udp, or write to a file, or send mail, etc; to be combined with a set of formatters (irc, tsv, jason, xml, etc) [14:12:03] i havn't quite decided if i should try to do it via the standard hook mechanism (there already is a hook for rc events), or if it should use a special registry of rc handlers. [14:30:40] 03(mod) API example links don't work because they have HTML entities - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11302 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:31:46] 03(mod) Allow the API to output the image metadata - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:35:18] 03(mod) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:35:43] are `verified versions' in 11? [14:37:27] <^demon> x98: verified versions aren't part of the core software, it's an extension. [14:43:27] 03(mod) Allow modification of a block without unblocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 (10thomas.dalton) [14:46:30] 03yaron * r25805 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/ (SF_AddData.php SF_EditData.php): [14:46:30] SFFormPrinter functions turned from static functions into class functions, [14:46:30] for new global variable $sfgFormPrinter [14:47:46] 03(mod) Enable captcha for anonymous page creation on Spanish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8668 (10wikioscar) [14:50:24] is there a way/extension that will index all pages on my wiki? [14:50:38] In waht way? [14:52:24] 03yaron * r25806 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: [14:52:24] Overhaul - hooks now available for adding new input functions in outside code; [14:52:24] all standard, internal input functions now use these hooks as well, so each [14:52:24] one was modified to fit the new standard header style. [14:52:29] jb: beyond SpecialAllpages and Special:Search? And categories?... [14:54:39] 03yaron * r25807 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.inc: [14:54:39] Renamed some fields for better eventual SMW 1.0 integration, slight HTML [14:54:39] fix, replaced the word "unknown" in generated templates with a blank value [14:55:41] hm, didnt know about SpecialAllPages. [14:56:35] thanks! [14:57:41] 03yaron * r25808 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormClasses.inc: Incorporated changes in data structures for SFTemplateField, SFFormPrinter [14:57:52] Hello [14:58:23] On my wiki i have many wikis i hosted [14:58:32] and i'm have interwiki between them [14:58:35] interwiki links [15:00:03] 03(mod) API fm modules don't escape < and > - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11302 summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:01:16] - continuing of the question here - http://rafb.net/p/c9F8WG89.html [15:01:56] Zizanzu_ that's possible [15:01:58] -Continuing oafter the link's content [15:02:04] But you have to change your interwiki settings [15:02:08] after that i'm got one error [15:02:11] 03yaron * r25809 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: "render" functions now start with "sf" [15:02:18] tell me more [15:02:23] You have to set iw_local=1 for those interwiki binding [15:02:25] s [15:02:35] huh? [15:02:39] should i set it local? [15:02:43] Yep [15:02:52] but how will that remove the error? [15:03:00] That'll make this possible. That's all iw_local does, really [15:03:07] 03yaron * r25810 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: Added creation of new $sfgFormPrinter global variable [15:03:09] Do you have the Special:Interwiki extension installed? [15:03:18] yes [15:03:48] Check - http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Aleriya_Interwiki_List [15:03:57] thats the wikis sandbox [15:04:07] the page is about interwiki list [15:04:09] of links [15:05:14] Gameman http://gameman.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page$1 0 0 is what you have at aleriya currently [15:05:45] Firstly that should be http://gameman.aleryia.com/wiki/index.php?title=$1 [15:06:03] Secondly, you're using w-gameman rather than Gameman: to refer to it [15:06:08] where did you check it? [15:06:15] yes i'm using w-gameman [15:06:41] http://wiki.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki - is the list of interwiki links [15:06:59] the other wikis i have have a interwiki who goes to wiki.aleriya.com [15:07:15] Right. But the A: interwiki binding doesn't work either [15:07:30] You want to do something like [[a:b:title]] from b right? [15:07:49] 03yaron * r25811 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/ (SF_LanguageEn.php SF_LanguageNl.php): [15:07:49] Removed 'sf_editdata_none' values - null value in dropdowns now just shows [15:07:49] up as blank [15:07:56] [[A:w:wikiname:wikipage]] [15:08:13] but w:wikiname:wikipage should be the interwiki on main wiki [15:08:25] andA: should be one the other hosted wikis [15:09:19] 03catrope * r25812 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php): [15:09:19] (bug 11308) Allow the API to output the image metadata [15:09:19] Patch by Brian Tong Minh [15:09:28] lo [15:09:29] 03yaron * r25813 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version, 0.6 [15:09:39] but what stands b for? [15:09:50] Right [15:10:09] I'm looking for having a way to get back a category's subcategories and articles in a skin [15:10:15] Ehh let's say [[abc:def:Pagename]] where abc: is another wiki and def: is this wiki [15:10:23] is that possible ? is there a trick / extension that can help ? [15:10:40] 03(FIXED) Allow the API to output the image metadata - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:10:42] Roan? [15:10:46] if i do you as staff [15:10:52] and you can help me do it work? [15:11:01] Well it's not that difficult [15:11:24] i'm contact you soon [15:11:37] now i'm contact you [15:12:02] I'm want it [[A:c [15:12:06] i mean [15:12:19] or wait i'm must write big [15:12:20] now [15:12:33] huuff [15:12:36] Look at http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Aleriya_Interwiki_List [15:12:40] i'm dont know how to explain [15:12:44] if jack was here [15:12:46] That looks like what you want right? [15:13:01] lookes nice [15:13:26] Now you need to go to http://wiki.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki and make Gamemedia: local [15:13:30] Set local to 1 [15:13:40] Do the same with all your other Aleriya wikis [15:13:49] All set them to local [15:14:20] 03siebrand * r25814 10/trunk/phase3/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [15:14:20] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [15:14:20] * ar, bcl, bn, hsb, ko, sah, su, ta. [15:14:21] noone knows a way to get back a category's children inside a skin ? [15:14:38] BeTa is that in a PHP script? [15:14:59] RoanKattouw: maybe yes... a skin is some sort of a php script... ;c) [15:15:21] RoanKattouw: ah ok.... sorry. I'm developping my own skin [15:15:33] so yes, that's in PHP [15:15:43] is nothing called Shared Interwiki links? [15:15:59] there [15:16:59] No Zizanzu_ there isn't [15:17:00] btw its dident work [15:17:04] I know [15:17:10] BeTa something like: [15:18:42] I'm got the same error [15:19:15] $cv = new CategoryViewer("pagename"); [15:19:17] $cv->doCategoryQuery(); [15:19:18] and $cv->articles will be an array containing all pages in the category [15:19:20] $cv->children is an array with child categories [15:19:44] Zizanzu_ Gamemedia http://gamemedia.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=$1 0 0 [15:19:47] Still not local [15:19:51] at http://wiki.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki [15:19:57] You need to set local to 1 [15:19:59] Then it'll work [15:20:13] RoanKattouw: excellent !! I keep my notebook !! ;c) [15:20:19] Should i set it local from the wiki i'm pointing to? [15:20:24] thanks a lot... I'm gonna try now [15:20:26] Yes, at AL [15:20:29] I mean at A: [15:20:40] BeTa no problem, found it in 30 secs with the SVN DOC generator [15:20:45] svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ [15:20:52] http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ I mean [15:21:53] RoanKattouw: fsck... rtfm in my face ! [15:22:02] lol [15:22:12] Well the f'ing manual is very large in this case [15:22:21] RoanKattouw: but thank you very much ! [15:22:25] you're right... lol [15:22:32] No problem [15:22:52] Roan?: if i make you to staff [15:22:57] can't you look at it? [15:23:03] so i can see how you done it [15:23:43] RoanKattouw: I just have to adjust things like "Call to a member function getDBKey() on a non-object in /home/beta/devel/svn/website/cornouaille-initiative/php/includes/CategoryPage.php", but I'm on the way [15:24:00] Wow [15:24:04] Just a minute there [15:24:08] hello [15:24:39] ROan i'm dont think you understand [15:24:41] this [15:24:56] I'm Wanted to create the Interwiki link called [15:25:00] [[A:...] [15:25:02] i mean [15:25:12] too short [15:25:13] [[A:]] [15:25:23] Who stands for Aleriya [15:25:33] And after A [15:25:38] i can write things like [15:25:47] 03(NEW) Swedish translations for 8 extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11311 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (lejonel) [15:25:53] Oh sorry BeTa the parameter to new CategoryViewer($title) has to be a Title object [15:26:08] [[A:sandbox:Pagename]] [15:26:17] I'm reading the doc... and looking at the code [15:26:21] Sandbox:Pagename is the interwiki link [15:26:22] Like new CategoryViewer($wgTitle) for the current title [15:26:27] I was on the way to this conclusion [15:26:30] on aleriya.com [15:26:36] to go to Sandbox:Andthepagename [15:26:49] Annyone knows what Wikia do [15:26:53] Zizanzu_ I get it [15:26:59] they have more then 100 wikis [15:27:09] and its hard to create a interwiki link for everyone [15:27:17] Like this: http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Help:Aleriya_Interwiki_List [15:27:21] so i think they done things like that i'm doing now [15:27:50] First you need to add an interwiki binding for A: here http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki [15:28:18] Don't forget to make it local [15:28:27] Then add an interwiki binding for Sandbox: here http://wiki.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki also local [15:29:53] check it again [15:30:28] No, you still haven't added A: to http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki [15:30:32] RoanKattouw: $cv = new CategoryViewer($this->data["skin"]->mTitle); [15:30:36] but [15:30:37] roan [15:30:40] BeTa good [15:30:42] RoanKattouw: this works... but not with $wgTitle; [15:30:46] Hmm [15:30:49] i'm dont want to add every single Interwiki link [15:30:51] on every wiki [15:30:55] i'm wanted it easy [15:30:56] so it's fine [15:30:57] I understand [15:31:01] [[A:...]] [15:31:10] interwiki link is on every wiki i have [15:31:17] but on The Central i have [15:31:18] Not here http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki it isn't [15:31:25] things like [[Gameman:test]] [15:31:33] i mean [[Gameman:...]] [15:31:37] I know [15:31:44] And you want to do [[A:Gameman:Test]] [15:31:51] yes [15:31:54] So that all sub-wikis only have to bind to A: [15:31:56] but i'm tryed it dont work [15:31:58] I understand your plan [15:32:03] yeah [15:32:08] But you need to add an entry for A: here http://sandbox.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki before it'll work [15:32:22] i'm deleted it [15:32:47] Local? [15:33:05] Yep [15:33:07] 03(NEW) URL with hyphen in Infobox displays improperly with unintended break - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11312 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (kentucho) [15:34:18] 03raymond * r25815 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [15:34:19] * (bug 11311) Update Swedish translations [15:34:19] Patch by Lejonel [15:34:20] Zizanzu_ I see it [15:34:53] 03(FIXED) Swedish translations for 8 extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11311 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [15:34:58] Zizanzu_ now you have to add an entry for Sandbox: here http://wiki.aleriya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Interwiki also local [15:35:26] added [15:36:46] ITS WORKED [15:36:50] thanks [15:36:55] hmm [15:37:20] someone messed up api.php's help output [15:37:23] Zizanzu_ now you know how to do it: Sandbox --> A (local) and A --> Sandbox (local) [15:37:26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php) [15:37:26] slakr I know [15:37:31] oh ok, n/m then [15:37:32] lol [15:37:36] Brion did that [15:37:39] It's been half-fixed [15:38:04] The &'s were removed by AmiDaniel, but now the XML pretty-print stuff doesn't work [15:38:18] < should be encoded at < and > and >, but that doesn't happen anymore [15:38:26] why are $wgParser->transformMsg() called before the arguments are replaced in messages that are transformed, we can't use the switch parserfunction for protectedpagetext message for the parameter (=protection right, added one or two days ago) ? [15:38:28] See also bug 11302 [15:38:44] -are +is [15:39:53] slakr see http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11302 [15:39:58] Gotta go now [15:50:36] 03siebrand * r25816 10/trunk/extensions/ (21 files in 21 dirs): [15:50:36] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [15:50:36] * Fixes and additions to 21 extensions for ar, bn, hsb, is, su. [16:08:59] hi [16:09:27] robchurch: contributors extension has a bug for 1.11.0 show a error message on edit [16:22:38] oppps [16:22:43] i need to repatch it [16:22:44] :-S [16:27:12] hi [16:27:12] With wikipedia API is possible to extract the exact URL of an image? [16:28:05] SPecial:Filepath [16:28:36] Special:Filepath/imagename gives you a redirect to it [16:30:40] thanks, where do I have to put the Special:Filepath/imagename, in wich parameter? [16:31:24] still breaking after repatch :-S [16:31:25] index.php?title=Special:Filepath/imagename [16:31:58] like this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions|imageinfo&rvprop=content&format=json&callback=wikicb&titles=Special:Filepath/imagename [16:31:59] ? [16:32:39] Jakko__: no, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Filepath/imagename [16:33:18] for example : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Filepath/Example.jpg [16:33:27] ok, so I have to do a separate query for each img ... [16:33:41] yes [16:33:50] thanks a lot guys! [16:34:49] well actually no, I have to put that as the img src and I'm done! [16:40:30] 03(FIXED) Enclose generated table attributes in quotes. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11298 +comment (10yaron57) [16:47:38] 03(FIXED) default value in dropdowns doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11244 +comment (10yaron57) [16:55:12] 03sanbeg * r25817 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/ (lst.php lsth.php): minor cleanup - add missing ?>, rm unused global declaration [16:55:22] ... [16:55:42] wasn't it agreed not to use the closing ?> tag? I though Simetrical removed them for a good reason... [16:56:08] Jack_Phoenix: It was. [16:56:13] revert revert revert!!! [16:56:28] no commit access, so ask someone with commit access to revert ;-) [16:57:06] VoiceOfAll: :) [16:57:15] yeah I saw, on it [17:04:17] 03aaron * r25818 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/ (lst.php lsth.php): *Remove ?> tags; they are not needed and where removed deliberately. [17:04:46] typo :) [17:07:53] code war! [17:10:16] MinuteElectron: my mind is Teh backwards [17:10:30] I also use the wrong one :( [17:10:36] *always [17:22:48] Is there a way in mediawiki to have certain available to certain users in a group or something? eg. Some wiki text like <-[show if group="admin"]- ... text -[end]-> ... or something? And only the wiki owner could edit it? [17:23:13] foo, there's no proper way in mediawiki to hide content [17:23:23] hanno: ok, thanks. [17:23:25] if you need that, you'd better switch to some acl-enabled wiki-engine [17:23:38] hanno: But I love mediawiki :) Hehe. [17:24:00] there are workarounds, but mediawiki-devs opinion on this is that some kind of all acl-stuff doesn't fit into mediawiki and workarounds can't really work secure [17:25:14] Interesting, ok. [17:30:58] 03(NEW) Wildcard search do not work for logged-in users in some Wikipedias - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11313 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lejonel) [17:34:52] Using # in a redirect -- example: #REDIRECT [[Page#Section]]... how can I make this work? [17:35:29] (in a redirect [[link]], that is) [17:39:17] Anyone? [17:49:05] 03(mod) Java error when no audio device available - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11236 (10raimond.spekking) [17:52:50] Sasoriza: i think this works with javascript [17:54:55] 03(FIXED) Trigger captcha on page creation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9099 +comment (10Platonides) [17:56:45] when testing a skin on a local setup, should I use $wgEnableParserCache = false; to avoid having to force-refresh? [18:26:45] Maybe not the right place to ask for 3:rd party ext support, but where can I add users to the Patroller group? [18:26:56] Special:Userrights [18:27:36] I can't access this page, it's only for stewards, yet I am an admin :-o [18:28:14] if you're an admin, that doesn't mean you're a steward [18:28:29] ok I see [18:28:56] how can I then access the special:userrights page? [18:29:27] set yourself as a steward by querying the database (use phpMyAdmin or something) [18:29:56] I have access to phpmyadmin, which table and which field? [18:30:08] user_rights table [18:30:21] I usually click just "sql" on that database [18:30:38] and then, assuming your user ID is 1, you would do: INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'steward'); [18:31:05] ok, thanks a lot!! =) [18:31:13] (you can find user id in Special:Preferences) [18:36:46] 03raymond * r25819 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php): * (bug 11243) Show thumbnail on image description page previews [18:37:19] 03(FIXED) Show images on image description page previews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11243 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [18:42:16] thanks Jack_Phoenix, I am now also a steward and can access the page =) But when I enter a name in the inputbox and hit the button, nothing happens, what have I missed? [18:42:54] sorry again, it works fine now! =) [18:45:04] one more question if you bear with me, where can I find more info about the different usergruops and their rights? [18:54:29] !help [18:54:29] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. There's not much documentation on me, but you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [18:55:56] Once again: Using # in a [[link]] on a redirect page -- example: #REDIRECT [[Page#Section]]... how can I make this work? [18:56:44] Sasoriza: (as i answered before) this works with javascript [18:57:00] That doesn't tell me much [18:57:45] i don't know when it was introduced, but it works [18:58:20] Common.js? Monobook.js? ...? [18:59:20] native [18:59:36] "native"? [19:00:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/wikibits.js [19:01:01] then search for "redirectToFragment" function [19:03:11] when you get a redirect page, a javascript code that use this function is automaticaly inserted in the page [19:03:41] Hmm... I thought it was a natural function already in mw [19:06:55] but you need javascript to be enabled [19:08:03] what does $this->html() do; it's creating odd bugs for me [19:08:08] in a skin [19:14:02] Ace_NoOne: something like return the passed value as HTML, it's defined in includes/SkinTemplate.php i think [19:14:47] alxndr: thanks, I'll take a look there - I think my problem was that I'm echo-ing it; works with data['newtalk'] instead [19:15:06] Ace_NoOne: i think this is the same as $this-> data [19:15:19] nope [19:15:26] checking now [19:15:39] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php?view=markup at the bottom [19:15:44] ahh yeah [19:15:45] function html( $str ) { [19:15:46] echo $this->data[$str]; [19:15:46] } [19:15:50] sorry [19:16:17] that kinda makes sense now (though I don't understand why it made it break out of the parent container, but oh well) [19:17:06] "text" and "html" are confuding names. html returns unescaped data (i.e. expected to already be html), text escapes the data first (i.e. it assumes the data is "plain text") [19:17:09] hmm I probably should use text instead of html [19:17:27] test() instead of data[] even [19:17:27] html() return nothing [19:17:35] Ace_NoOne: depends on what is inside the data array [19:17:50] Duesentrieb_: [19:17:51] $this->data['newtalk']; [19:18:32] Duesentrieb_: I am cleaning up the skin stuff; creating functions like generateSidebar() [19:18:35] yea, well then: it depends on wether the value of $this->data['newtalk'] is plain text, escpaed text, or even html markupo [19:18:52] Duesentrieb_: it's HTML markup, I guess [19:19:06] Ace_NoOne: sure that's a good idea? i would like far more granularity, but the skins stuff has to be, first of all, *fast* [19:19:12] more functions -> slower. [19:19:18] oh [19:19:21] I hadn't thought of that [19:19:42] but I hate how messy it is [19:19:51] Ace_NoOne: i have a nice, abstract, handy skinning system... i would really like to use it instead of the cruft we have now. but i don't think it would be fast enough :) [19:20:10] you do have a point there [19:20:14] Ace_NoOne: yes, me too. splitting it into a few functions isn't too bad, probably. [19:20:35] just be carfull not to overdo it. perhaps talk to tim about it... he did some crazy skin stuff at some point, iirc. [19:20:46] something like compiling templates into php code or some such [19:20:47] Duesentrieb_: also, I was considering pulling a list of quicklinks from [[user:foo/quicklinks]] - think that has a significant impact? [19:21:01] in the skin that is [19:21:15] you'd do that for every page reuest. [19:21:21] so not a good idea [19:21:23] yes, that would have impact. for it's not cached. [19:21:55] :/ thanks for telling me about this now, before I actually started on it [19:21:57] Ace_NoOne: you can put it into memcached... but for every user... i don't know. you also have to do extra hacking to purge the entry from memcached when the page is edited [19:22:14] I'd rather not make it that complicated; it's just a skin after all [19:22:21] i've done something like that for the Gadgets extension - but not for per-user stuff [19:22:23] plus I'm not that good a coder [19:23:30] well... i can't tell you the exact impact of such things. i just say you must keep in mind that wikimedia serves 35 thousand requests per second. [19:23:39] and... would like to keep doing so :) [19:23:49] hah yeah, I really hadn't thought of that at all [19:24:30] keepingin mind what can be cached, and how, on the different layers, is quite important when working with mediawiki. [19:24:44] there's a lot of nice and obvious things we don't have because they don's cale [19:24:48] *scale [19:24:58] category intersections (with subcategories), for one thing [19:25:18] yeah, that makes sense now [19:25:42] these things would both increase loading times for the client and be a performance hog on the server, right? [19:25:53] so even for small wikis it's not really a good option then [19:26:59] Ace_NoOne: can't you do this with javascript instead ? [19:27:18] ialex: what, exactly? fill the quicklinks menu? [19:27:26] Ace_NoOne: for my own dreams bout skinning, see http://brightbyte.de/page/Client-side_skins_with_XSLT [19:27:38] XSLT! [19:27:50] Ace_NoOne: i'll write about my own php-based skinning system soon (when [19:28:00] ...i'm done studying for that exam) [19:28:14] hah I just had a huge exam today - so good luck to you [19:28:21] Ace_NoOne: isn't it possible ? [19:29:02] ialex: it sure is, but ... well, it wouldn't solve the loading times issue for the client? [19:29:18] except if I'd do it asynchronously... hmm ... [19:29:23] Ace_NoOne: in fact :) [19:29:32] meaning I'd have to find out how to access MW like that [19:29:53] Ace_NoOne: sometimes when it takes too much time for me, i disable javascript [19:29:54] there's an ajax entry point [19:30:18] but you'd have to be very carfull to tell the browser to use a shared copy if at all possible [19:30:42] Duesentrieb_: client-side caching you mean= [19:30:42] if you do an ajax request on every page load, that would mean you DOUBLE the number of requests [19:30:43] ? [19:30:47] that would be BAD. [19:30:48] true [19:30:55] clinet-side = browser cache [19:30:56] oh boy... let's forget about this [19:31:19] this is way over my head [19:31:42] sorry to shatter your dreams :/ [19:32:00] hah no it's okay - much better now than later on, after having coded for ages [19:32:09] I'm really grateful for ths [19:32:11] *this [19:32:41] Mediawiki -- raining on parades since v0.1. [19:32:46] Duesentrieb_: http://brightbyte.de/page/Client-side_skins_with_XSLT <-- TalkHere is not multilingual ;) [19:32:49] (retaliation) [19:33:38] Ace_NoOne: hm? what do you mean? [19:33:48] Duesentrieb_: the page is in English, the button is in German [19:33:59] link even [19:34:42] Ace_NoOne: well, the page is in english because i didn't write a german version. the button (and the rest of the interface) is in german because your browser sais you like that. [19:35:01] Duesentrieb_: err, no, my browser is set to English - lemme check [19:35:05] Ace_NoOne: if i had written a german version, the Polyglot extension would even take you to the german version automagically :) [19:35:15] nice [19:36:02] Duesentrieb_: my browser is set to en-us > en > de-de > de [19:36:16] (works on my uni's homepage, btw - annoyingly though ;) ) [19:36:17] hm, don't know why it thinks you want german. [19:36:28] click on "english" in the languageselector box :) [19:36:53] Duesentrieb_: "But XSLT is not yet supported by all browsers [...] Let's hope this changes soon." <-- the problem is, even if MS were to release IE8 with XSLT and CSS3 support, people would still use IE6 for the next 5 years [19:36:53] (the title "languageselector", btw, is not localized. i forgot that. and no one complained yet) [19:37:04] that works now [19:37:08] IE6 has XSLT support [19:37:18] even ie5 does, iirc, to some extent. [19:37:31] XSLT support but no XHTML support? wow, that's odd (not unexpected tho) [19:37:50] they have been supporting xhtml for a long time. [19:37:56] only as tag soup [19:38:00] if they comply to the speci in the interpretation is another question [19:38:36] IE chokes on XHTML if not served as text/html (i.e. tag soup) [19:38:37] Ace_NoOne: anyway: the most workable solution is mentioned as an afterthough in the very last paragraph [19:39:06] yeah, read that [19:39:18] Ace_NoOne: text/html does not imply tag soup. if you specify a DTD at the top of the page (and don't fuck up), you go into "standard compiant mode", which is strict XML. [19:39:19] sounds interesting, but ... well, not for small wikis [19:39:29] no, not for small wikis. [19:39:33] either way, it's still wrong [19:39:55] text/html is specified as the correct mime type for xhtml by the w3c, iirc. [19:40:34] hm... i read some page talking about xhtml woth and without xml header, and the different mime types, once... [19:40:44] forgot where it way [19:40:45] *was [19:41:16] Duesentrieb_: <_ZofBot3> Are you using XHTML? READ THIS: http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml , http://hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml , http://www.webdevout.net/articles/validity-and-well-formedness [19:41:36] but let's not resurrect that ancient flamewar now :) [19:43:38] Ace_NoOne: hm, i guess i'll have to reread that. the definitive guide would be http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/NOTE-xhtml-media-types-20020801/ [19:44:03] The only things left to work out for unified login is conflict resolution, right? [19:44:08] key sentence: The 'text/html' media type [RFC2854] is [19:44:08] primarily for HTML, not for XHTML. In general, this media type is [19:44:08] NOT suitable for XHTML. [19:44:08] However, as [RFC2854] says, [19:44:08] [XHTML1] defines a profile of use of XHTML which is [19:44:08] compatible with HTML 4.01 and which may also be labeled as text/html [19:44:15] uh, sorry for the linebreaks [19:44:20] stupid c*p [19:44:28] heh :) [19:45:08] Pathoschild: afaik the algorthim for conflict resolution was specified by brion a long time ago. [19:45:12] function redirectToFragment should work in common.js, right? [19:45:28] Duesentrieb_: Do you know what's holding back implementation, then? [19:46:31] Pathoschild: that brion has a lot of shit to do. and that it must be written and tested very very carefully to be rolled out on a huge system & community like wikimedia [19:46:49] Pathoschild: let me finish my diploma, maybe the'll hire me to do it :) [19:47:09] :p [19:47:27] *Pathoschild anxiously awaits the opt-in beta phase. [19:47:45] Duesentrieb_: diploma in CS? [19:47:51] I got tired of registering accounts everywhere for stewarding, so I just edit anonymously and fake my signature now. :p [19:47:57] Pathoschild: basically, the last months where a mad struggel to get 1.11 out of the door while at the same time having wikimania [19:48:01] Ace_NoOne: yes. [19:48:08] Ace_NoOne: Informatik, uni Leipzig [19:48:12] cool [19:48:15] Pathoschild, I'v got a question about anti-vandle bots [19:48:19] Duesentrieb_: ETA? [19:48:24] end of year [19:48:33] hah very same here (starting job on Jan 1) [19:48:38] cool [19:48:39] How do they detect white/black lists? [19:48:45] not Informatik tho - Informationswissenschaft (Magister) [19:48:59] Soroush81: The bots that list possible vandalism in RC channels, or the bots that revert edits on-wiki based on most-likely-vandalism algorithms? [19:49:14] Ace_NoOne: hah - i have no idea what that is about, really :) [19:49:24] Duesentrieb_: honestly, neither do I ;P [19:49:32] what's your thesis about [19:49:37] eg. #cvn-wp-fa [19:49:43] I have just moved my wiki from one server to another, I did a mysqldump and backed up my mediawiki directory and moved it over to the new server. The wiki works almost. When i create a new page i get an error "duplicate entry '0' for key 1", but the page got saved. Is there something I need to change in the database? [19:50:13] I haven't seen anywhere in mediawiki these lists are stored [19:50:29] Ace_NoOne: hehe. the wp article looks interresting though. my thesis will be about information retrieval / text mining on wikipedia. [19:50:38] Soroush81: The whitelist is added by identified users in the channel (or those with a voice, if the channel is moderated). There are two lists for each project generated automatically, the bot list and admin list. [19:50:46] not too much fancy stuff - basically, extracting thesaurus data for omegawiki :) [19:51:15] Duesentrieb_: nice - my thesis was about "the wiki way" in general [19:51:23] The blacklist is added by users the same way. Similarly, there's an automatically generated "graylist", which contains users which have recently been reverted. Users that have been blocked are automatically blacklisted. [19:51:29] function redirectToFragment should work in common.js, right? [19:51:42] Ace_NoOne: interresting - i guess i should read it, and cite you :) [19:51:46] got a link? [19:51:56] Soroush81: Essentially, most of the lists are populated by RC community in combination with the bot software. [19:52:04] Duesentrieb_: not published yet; still waiting for my grade, maybe then [19:52:14] Somone knows a solution for my problem? [19:52:21] kk [19:52:50] Thanks very much for your kind reply. but I always see myself in white list even while I'm not identified and I'm not an admin eigther [19:52:53] henrik_: the error is very generic. it sounds like "something is broken in the database", but that's not much to go on. [19:53:31] Soroush81: someone added you, then? [19:53:42] Duesentrieb_: Something I can read up on, so I can fix it? [19:53:46] Soroush81: Yes, someone added you because they verified you were a legitimate editor. You're welcome. [19:54:21] Thanks again very much. :) [19:54:27] Welcome. :) [19:54:33] henrik_: not without knowing at least what table the problem is in. [19:54:43] henrik_: hm... maybe it's recentchanges? [19:54:43] btw, where is the list, please? [19:55:25] henrik_: sorry, it's a "my car won't start" situation. [19:55:27] Soroush81: It's stored by the bot in a local database. Only the bot operator can view the entire list, but you can check what lists a particular user is on. [19:55:30] there's not much to tell you [19:55:52] Thanks again :-0 [19:55:54] :) [19:56:08] Duesentrieb_: I will try to see if i can get it to work.. But thanks for help [19:56:08] Can anyone help me, How I can go to a page inside a function in an extension? articleFromTitle(); gives the article object. I want to display that page [19:56:14] Soroush81: The bot documentation is at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CVN/Bots >; you'd say "pgkbot intel Soroush81". [19:56:32] (Changing "pgkbot to the bot's name.) [19:57:54] Soroush81: redirect [19:58:35] no in an extension [19:58:44] I'm writing an extension [19:59:12] sth like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReturnToUserPage [19:59:35] but I want it to go to page immidiately [20:01:07] Soroush81: "go to" means: do a redirect. an http redirect. not a redirect page. [20:01:19] mediawiki has a function for that somewhere. [20:02:13] I want to do it on a hook [20:04:10] Soroush81: so? [20:04:14] do it, then. [20:04:53] hi folks; i'm trying to figure out the easiest way to display a user's email address in the content of a page... am i going to have to go the custom variable route or is there something already built in that i can use? [20:05:27] c0ldfusi0nz, you should get a query [20:05:35] from user table [20:05:59] c0ldfusi0nz: there's nothing built in, because user mail addresses are considered private information, which should not be accessible to other users. [20:06:27] so, yes, write a parser function that pulls the info from the user table. [20:06:45] select 'user_email' from user where user_name= ' ' but this needs some programming [20:06:59] Duesentrieb, Parserfunction? [20:07:21] Soroush81: yes. like a parser hook, but different. [20:07:27] i figured as much... this is for an internal corporate wiki that isn't accessible from outside the network. i'm a MW noob so i'll have to learn to write a parser then... [20:07:42] c0ldfusi0nz: parser *function* [20:08:37] I thought you talked about wiki page, because nothing is like that in m:Help:ParserFunctions [20:08:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions [20:08:56] so it should be in an extension [20:09:06] mysql> select user_email from user where user_id= [20:09:09] parser functions can be defined by extensions. [20:09:18] I see. [20:09:29] parser functions are one of the several types of extensions [20:10:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3AExtensions#Extension_techniques [20:10:24] (hm, that page has undergone a major rewrite recently. lots of stuff there now. nice) [20:10:48] looks like fun; this will be quite a hack - i'm actually using it to embed another open source app in the wiki and have our users be automatically logged in via their email address [20:11:03] Thanks very much Duesentrieb_ [20:11:42] c0ldfusi0nz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [20:11:51] i read something about people trying to or actually using LDAP for authentication [20:12:06] Q: If you include something in LocalSettings.php, but it's already on ("true") by default, then remove it, is it still true? [20:12:21] mutante: ldap auth is used a *lot*, yes. [20:12:53] Sasoriza: if you donÄt have it in LocalSettings.php, the default will be used. [20:12:58] that's what defaults are all about... [20:13:37] But I'm saying, if you include it then remove it, does it fall back on the default [20:15:23] sure [20:15:28] Duesentrieb_, Do you know where I can find all global variables and functions in mediawiki? [20:15:38] Soroush81: in all files? [20:15:53] 03(mod) Set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit for Spanish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11305 (10cbrown1023) [20:16:16] I look for a good reference [20:16:37] to find the and test different ones [20:17:14] find and test different what? [20:17:42] Soroush81: try walking into a factory and asking for a list of all tools, just so you can try some. [20:17:45] doesn't make sense... [20:20:13] for example now I want sth like html('bodytext') in QuickTemplate class [20:20:18] but out of it [20:20:52] and tommorow I need sth else but it's not nice to bother people in irc for asking all of them [20:21:23] mutante: yes it can be done [20:22:30] Soroush81: the code itself is the best reference. the Manual namespace on mediawiki.org has some documentation on key concepts, and there's http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/modules.html [20:23:51] whats the best method of email notification? SMTP or PHP mail() [20:24:28] "best" always depends on what you need, and what you have. [20:24:53] if you have a mail agent set up on the server, use mail() [20:25:07] if you don't, and don#t want to, and don't expet a lot of mails to be sent, you can use SMTP [20:25:11] i dont have SMTP configured [20:25:17] hm? [20:25:22] Thanks, Duesentrieb_ [20:26:05] dtolj_ I can remember whenever I used PHP mail(), the mail went to bulk in Yahoo, Spam in Gmail [20:26:32] Soroush81: uh, the resulting mail should be exactly the same. [20:26:46] maybe except for a few details in the headers [20:27:04] dtolj_: to use PHP's mail, you need an MTA like sendmail or postfix or exim [20:27:27] most serious webservers have set that up, so use it [20:27:56] however, i've always failed to understand how to configure those beasts. so for a playground wiki on my home box, i'd use SMTP [20:29:56] for a company setting i think SMTP is better solution [20:32:12] dtolj_: if the company is running its own webserver, probably not. talk to however maintains the companie's mail server. [20:32:40] SMTP is the *simple* solution. using an MTA is generally the better one. [20:33:04] because, among other things, it does local spooling. meaning it's much faster (from the web user's perspective) [20:39:01] hi [20:39:08] i have a problem [20:39:28] please someone can help me? :( [20:39:38] i have reade the faq [20:39:44] and search on the web [20:40:15] when i try to install mediawiki [20:40:26] i get this error [20:40:28] PHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation. ABORTING. [20:40:35] what can i do? [20:41:09] Use MediaWiki 1.6.11. [20:41:15] Er. [20:41:18] 1.6.10, rather. [20:41:46] i have mediawiki 1.11.0 [20:41:58] But you don't have PHP 5, it seems. [20:42:04] Therefore, you can't use MediaWiki 1.11.0. [20:42:08] ok [20:42:10] It clearly states that PHP 5 is required. [20:42:18] thank you ^^ [20:42:25] You could try following the instructions and going to config/index.php5 to see if that works. [20:43:19] kk [20:45:14] 03(NEW) Spaces in mediawiki name causes infinite redirect loop - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11314 major; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (ziba) [20:46:16] can i be given import permission for mediawiki.org? [20:46:30] where do I set the copyright info for a wiki? i.e. which pages need to be altered? special:allmessages isn't very helpful (just references to $1 and $2, whatever those point to) [20:48:12] ZJH, why do you want it? [20:48:22] Ace_NoOne, I think it's LocalSettings.php, maybe. [20:48:34] Simetrical: oh ... okay [20:48:35] importing from meta.wikimedia.org [20:49:11] ZJH, well, the only ones who can import are sysops. So . . . unless you convince a bureaucrat to make you a sysop, or get sysadmins to make an "import" group, no. [20:49:56] actually, there is an import group, IIRC [20:49:59] Simetrical: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Copyright doesn'T really help me [20:50:10] Jack_Phoenix, hmm, let me see. [20:50:30] So there is! [20:50:32] hm, well are you not the same as http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=Simetrical&group=bureaucrat&limit=1 ? [20:50:35] *Simetrical checks if he can add people to it [20:50:48] No, I can't. [20:50:58] Jack_Phoenix: you certainly know about the licensing stuff, right? [20:51:03] So yes I am, but unless you can convince me to make you a sysop, get a steward to let you import. [20:51:10] meh, kinda, Ace, whatcha need? [20:51:27] Jack_Phoenix: where do I set the wiki's content license [20:51:42] i'm already sysop on a wikimedia site [20:51:54] at en.wikinews [20:52:48] $wgRightsUrl , $wgRightsText and $wgRightsIcon, Ace. perhaps you could try changing those in LocalSettings.php and...running rebuildMessages.php ? dunno if that would redo the copyright-related messages...I *guess* so... [20:52:50] i won't import any goatse, i swear :D [20:52:59] lmao [20:53:32] Jack_Phoenix: hmm ... hold on [20:53:33] but i'll give you some cool pr0n [20:53:45] :P [20:55:46] Has there been much time spent looking into SEO for mediawiki? Google's webmaster tools show you top content for your site, and the list is filled with stuff like "edit", "noncommercial", "sharealike", "diff", "hist", "talk", "contribs"... there should be a way to convince Google to ignore that kind of stuff and focus more on the content of each page. [20:56:22] drwxrxrx, if you know of any, do share. [20:56:46] nah I'll hoard all my success. [20:57:15] Also, I hope I never see a permission string like your name on a live server. Group permission rxr would creep the hell out of me. [20:57:20] But seriously. [20:57:23] low pageranks are all mine!!! [20:57:50] Yeah, we'll keep the maxed-out Wikipedia PageRanks, you can have the low ones. :P [20:58:14] yeah the string's more of a tribute to everything in my ~ [20:58:31] I don't know, why isn't Google smart about removing blatant interface elements before indexing? [20:58:56] hola [20:58:58] Because Wikipedia is Web 2.0 and Google is Web 1.0? [20:58:58] drwxrxrx, I hope it's really drwxr-xr-x, not drwxrxrx. [20:59:02] \o/ [20:59:04] well yeah [20:59:34] but hyphens are weird in usernames [21:01:22] brb [21:02:02] Jack_Phoenix: duh, that did it - I was thinking way too complicated all this time [21:02:03] On UNIX, maybe. Not on IRC. [21:02:11] There are like a dozen people here with hyphens in their names. [21:02:15] Ace_NoOne: [21:03:50] it's just a generic username i use for pretty much anything [21:04:43] anyway, yeah I've been wondering what it would take to get Google to sit up and notice how badly it parses all the mediawiki sites out there [21:06:56] drwxrxrx: Contact Jimbo Wales, he has a 'contact' at Google. [21:07:24] why 'contact'? [21:07:44] drwxrxrx: ok aquantance. [21:07:49] *shrug* [21:07:54] ah [21:09:51] Why does Jimbo care that MediaWiki sites get lousy PageRank? Wikimedia installations seem to do fine. [21:10:23] Just complain at the Google webmaster blog or something. [21:10:33] IIRC, they're always asking for input. [21:10:34] /w 24 [21:12:32] Simetrical: They virtually have PageRank 10 due to the fact that litterally millions of blogs link to it as well as some other sites. [21:13:31] 03(mod) Wildcard search do not work for logged-in users in some Wikipedias - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11313 +comment (10rainman) [21:14:37] Anyone know of a good way to parse text in mediawiki markup to plaintext? I've been searching and have yet to find anything particularly useful. [21:15:09] You want to remove formatting, or just have the wiki markup? [21:15:26] Or display the MediaWiki markup as plaintext on the wiki page? [21:15:48] I just want to take a chunk of text thats got all the markup in it and pull that out, leaving me with the plain text [21:18:09] For example instances of "[link]]"would just become "link" [21:20:56] Jenden, you could parse it and then just strip all HTML. [21:22:51] Yea, I started looking at that too, but couldn't find a good way to parse it into HTML. I haven't done much in PHP so I didn't know how to run the Parser independent of the site, and I've got a lot of text I want to do this with so it would take too long to do it via browser [21:23:36] There may be something really simple, I'm just kind of PHP illiterate. I found some PERL scripts, but none of them worked with even a marginal degree of success [21:25:41] If there's a way to give the parser my wikitext and have it spit html or plaintext back out that would be perfect. Or it could also pull stuff out of the database given article ID's or titles. Either way would work well for me [21:30:38] 03(mod) PostgreSQL and tsearch2 Problems - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9908 (10alessandro) [21:30:39] 03(mod) PostgreSQL support (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 (10alessandro) [21:38:23] does anyone know of an svn command to remove all .svn files recursively? as in to detach a directory tree? [21:40:38] 03(NEW) Anonymous users' signatures should link somewhere more useful - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11315 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (matthew.britton) [21:40:59] #subversion ? [21:41:05] jimbojw: rm -Rf.svn ? ... or do you mean an export cmd? [21:41:58] mdale: i'll try that - I just found the export cmd documentation, so that may work as well [21:42:00] thanks guys [21:43:23] anyone with really short URLs (i.e. domain.tld/Article) using maintenance/generateSitemaps.php? [21:43:33] jimbojw: You may want to use svk, it's an svn client that doesn't litter your checkout copy with .svn dirs [21:44:13] avar: yeah - it's been on my todo list to check out svk and start using it - i've got a friend who's a huge proponent - just haven't gotten around to it [21:44:41] seems complex to setup [21:45:44] avar, do all the commands work the same as with svn? [21:48:09] there are ~3 new commands, but other than that pretty much yeah [21:48:19] http://search.cpan.org/~clkao/SVK-v2.0.2/lib/SVK/Help/Intro.pod#GETTING_STARTED [21:48:28] thanks avar [21:48:52] Duesentrieb_: FYI: I think I know how to do the quicklinks; JavaScript with two-dimensional array that the user can override in his common.js [21:49:14] Simetrical: one nice benefit of svk (so I've been told) is that it keeps the entire subversion history whereas svn keeps only your working copy [21:50:37] yes, it mirrors the repository to ~/.svk, you can work without an internet connection [21:50:46] and you can have your own branches and so on [21:51:36] it's not a real distributed vcs like git but still nice [21:59:10] hiii! :) [21:59:38] hello yourself :) [21:59:58] meh, no steam left in threads [22:00:01] gotta go sleep a bit :) [22:02:39] Angela mentioned sometime back that a mw interface was being worked on, to enable commands through a wiki page itself for sysops. Has this been implemented yet? (Too tired to go searching through release notes...) [22:03:47] what commands? [22:03:55] you don't mean the direct database query thing from years ago, do you? [22:03:59] a/w 11 [22:04:22] ST47: Nope, this was just within the last year [22:04:56] Sasoriza: what commands? [22:05:14] Sasoriza, "commands through a wiki page itself for sysops"? [22:05:29] ? Not sure exactly. I just know she mentioned it. [22:05:39] Sasoriza: do you know where she mentioned it? [22:05:57] I'm looking in bugzilla and the documentation, and not seeing anything [22:06:07] Not off-hand. Might have been her userpage at Wikia. [22:07:02] I'm guessing if it was, I would have found it by now. Was just wondering if there was ever any progress on it. [22:07:33] Sasoriza: is this regarding wikia? [22:07:40] I take the confused responses to probably mean a negative. [22:07:58] That is, are you referring to the possible interface by which to edit localsettings.php [22:08:01] Yeah, Wikia. [22:09:00] I'm not familiar with that, you may want to ask #wikia, however to my knowledge there is no system in place allowing admins to edit the configuration directly [22:09:08] Thx [22:09:49] Hmm. Wondering how to make that happen.... [22:10:39] Oh, that would be something we should really have. [22:10:42] An admin control panel. [22:10:54] Obviously locked down substantially, for something like Wikimedia or Wikia. [22:13:51] I hate to say this because I feel totally stupid, but for some reason, I can't get redirect lks with a # to work, even with function redirectToFragment(fragment) in common.js. What am I missing? [22:14:11] (# in the link, not as in #REDIRECT) [22:15:14] Instead of linking to a #, it treats it as the title [22:16:38] 03(FIXED) Add entries to robots.txt to block RFA/RFC/RFAR - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11261 +comment (10jeluf) [22:16:41] 03(FIXED) More robots.txt exclusions for sv.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11291 +comment (10jeluf) [22:16:49] 03(FIXED) Fix typo in robots.txt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10717 +comment (10jeluf) [22:16:52] 03(FIXED) Add talk pages of deletion discussions to robots.txt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10288 +comment (10jeluf) [22:17:06] *ST47 thanks JeLuF [22:17:12] 03(FIXED) Entries to robots.txt to block deletion requests at es: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6746 +comment (10jeluf) [22:20:10] \o/ [22:20:47] \o/ < what is that [22:21:07] Sasoriza: cheering. [22:21:14] o [22:21:17] Imagine it as a head with two upraised arms to either side. [22:21:55] Sasoriza: Regarding your question, you want to link to a title that contains the character "#", or redirect to a section on page? [22:22:06] section [22:22:33] Newer versions of MediaWiki can do that by default, no? [22:23:00] I believe so, and I thought it was enabled, but for some reason, 'taint working. [22:31:05] Could $wgLegalTitleChars nullify $wgUseSiteJs, even though # isn't in the former's string? [22:31:30] Or, I mean, nullify function redirectToFragment(fragment) [22:32:20] Or is function redirectToFragment(fragment) just totally wrong [22:34:43] 03siebrand * r25820 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [22:34:43] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [22:34:43] * cs, su [22:41:37] Okay, here's the problem: Section headings are H4. How do I redirect links to those? (Redirects work above that: H1, H2, etc.) [22:41:55] Does anyone have any experience with hacking MediaWiki to store images on Amazon's S3 service? I'm considering migrating Lostpedia.com to Amazon's EC2 cloud and the storage of images in S3 is my only stumbling block right now. [22:42:48] IflyForFun: it's a virtual server, right? so, file storage shouldn't be different from a normal system? [22:43:33] Well, yes it is. except for when the instance is terminated. All changes since the image load are lost. [22:43:39] 03siebrand * r25821 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [22:43:39] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [22:43:39] * Fixes and additions to 8 extensions for cs. [22:43:54] Sasoriza: section headers automatically generate anchors. you can simply use the heading text after the # in the link. [22:44:51] Duesentrieb: Which is why I'd prefer to use S3. It's a very high end storage solution and has additional benefits too. (ie: more redundancy, higher throughput, etc) [22:45:21] IflyForFun: no idea really. try to catch TimStarling around, he recently rewrote the image storage backend. [22:46:11] Duesentrieb_: Interesting... Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out for him. [22:49:54] 03(mod) Warning: Cannot modify header information - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11272 (10ekompute) [23:02:37] OK, I want to make a MediaWiki skin that matches my other sites - any recommendations? [23:30:43] I'm trying to use MonobookTemplateToolboxEnd hook [23:31:03] in the function, how should it send the html? [23:31:26] should it echo, return, send it to $wgOut, something else? [23:32:15] the review extension in svn just has it echo (prints raw html outside of tags) [23:32:43] but when I try that, i get 6 "already output headers" errors [23:44:26] Can anyone clarify what the page_latest column in the *-page.sql dump references (I'm only looking at this one table in isolation)??? [23:53:05] anyone, is this the wrong channel? It is mentioned in the wikiepdia download page/