[00:00:35] BraydenP: a lot of categories. look at the bottom of the page [00:00:45] i would say, that page has way too many categories... [00:01:14] ah, you can ignore the "All articles with unsourced statements" cruft [00:01:52] "Supermarkets of the United Kingdom" is one of the more sane categories i guess [00:02:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export [00:02:44] Not working [00:03:21] works fine for me [00:08:12] gn8 [00:29:16] hey [00:29:25] how do you enable CSS in mediawiki [00:29:33] or test that it is enabled [00:30:01] http://theplaz.com/wiki/index.php?title=ThePlaz.com's_Dropdowns_for_MediaWiki I am trying to get this to work [00:30:26] is anyone here [00:34:48] Hello [00:34:51] anyone here [00:35:15] what do you mean by "enable CSS in mediawiki"? [00:35:40] so you can use CSS in mediawiki [00:35:51] mediawiki uses CSS heavily [00:36:13] okay then if you go to that link that I posted [00:36:47] it says to paste css code in Mediawiki:Common.css I did and it doesn't work [00:37:05] thanks for help alxndr [00:37:12] *helping [00:37:21] try refreshing, try action=purge [00:38:17] where do I put that [00:42:35] part of the url, like "title=Something&action=purge" or there might be a "refresh" link on the article [00:43:19] thanks it is working put appearing over the text on main page [00:43:31] do you know of a way to fix it [00:44:18] don't know what you're trying to say [00:45:34] so the Main Page text is underneath the dropdown menu [00:46:27] like the ttile [00:46:43] looks like that's what it's supposed to do [00:47:48] I mean the first boxes [00:47:52] hey [00:47:55] sup :) [00:48:12] anyone here ever set up Memcached on their wiki? [00:50:20] tough crowd. [00:50:23] hi there.. there is any free personal wiki mediawiki based around? (I prefer without ADS) [00:50:44] Sean_Colombo, I only set up APC. [00:50:53] what's APC? [00:50:57] Lin, I don't know, possibly. [00:51:06] Wikia will let you set up a MediaWiki, but I don't know if you can have a private one [00:51:14] Sean_Colombo, Alternative PHP Cache. You may as well use that for caching instead of Memcached if you only have one server. [00:51:22] Sean_Colombo, Wikia doesn't give you private ones. [00:51:27] bummer [00:51:29] I have two servers right now [00:51:40] web front-end and a db server [00:51:51] As long as you only have one Web server, APC should work. [00:51:57] w0rd [00:52:03] You want APC anyway (or eAccelerator or Xcache) to do opcode caching. [00:52:16] All of them can optionally also be used as general memory caches, like Memcached. [00:52:19] cool, I'll look into it [00:52:37] i actually just set up memcached already, I was looking to see if anyone had any insight as to how much memory to give it [00:53:23] Experiment. It only needs to be as much as MediaWiki (and/or other apps) use. [00:53:35] You do want an opcode cache, though, even if you don't use it for a memory cache. [00:53:42] Speeds up PHP by a factor of several times. [00:54:05] nice [00:54:20] is APC > eAccel/Xcache or are they all about the same? [00:54:44] APC is written by the PHP devs, and will probably be built into PHP 6. I haven't had any problems with it. [00:54:53] s/probably // [00:55:15] nice [00:55:44] i hadn't heard anything about PHP 6 yet... when is the planned/estimated release date? [00:56:51] with mediawiki 1.11.0, I had to comment out $wgRequest->interpolateTitle(); in includes/Setup.php to get urls like index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit to work with $wgScriptPath = ""; and $wgArticlePath = "/$1"; Is this a known bug/problem/feature? [00:57:28] Sean_Colombo, I dunno, I suppose a couple of years. Not sure. [00:58:16] pabs3, $wgScriptPath = ""; ? How's that supposed to work? [00:58:23] Hmm, I guess it just means /. [00:58:47] Weird setup. [00:58:59] yep. I'm upgrading http://wiki.synfig.org - it worked in the old version [00:59:08] In any case, it's not recommended to have $wgArticlePath = "/$1". "/wiki/$1" or somesuch is preferred. [00:59:11] and it looks like 1.10 would work too [00:59:20] Although /$1 *mostly* works. [01:00:26] Simetrical: http://tango.freedesktop.org looks like it uses the same setup as us [01:01:31] Simetrical: any idea what interpolateTitle is supposed to do? [01:01:40] Not offhand. [01:02:08] Ah, I see. [01:03:13] It looks like a Very Bad Idea to comment it out. [01:03:25] Although I only glanced it over, so I don't know what went wrong. [01:04:33] IIRC, the first call to extractTitle returns 'index.php' instead of 'Main_Page' for index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [01:10:45] Hello I am on the last step of installing the math equation function in wiki, but I need to install these: Rasterization is done via LaTeX, dvipng. These need [01:10:45] to be installed and in the PATH: latex, dvipng [01:11:00] does anyone know where/how I can install these? [01:15:31] its damn hard find a free media wiki farm with private support. I will start one in my own computer :-( [01:16:52] wikidot is fine.. but has a weird (not mediawiki) sintax [01:16:58] syntax [01:30:49] guess I'll use 1.10.2 then [01:35:24] does anyone know if there is a WSYIWYG editor in the current version of MediaWiki? [01:35:33] (or if they're still working on it?) [01:39:35] Sean_Colombo, no and no. Proper WYSIWYG is not practical with current MediaWiki markup. [01:39:42] It's effectively impossible to parse on the client computer. [01:40:15] So it would only work with high latency and server load, sending every change to the server to be parsed. [01:40:38] Parsing an average page takes ~800 ms last I heard, too, which becomes doubly ridiculous when transit time is added. [01:41:14] A prerequisite to a robust WYSIWYG editor is a sufficiently simple markup that it can be efficiently implemented on the client in JavaScript, and that's a major architectural change that seriously breaks reverse compatibility. [01:58:21] how can I get these [edit] buttons to work? http://is.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikivitnun:Sandkassinn [03:34:58] just a quick question (which I imagine is a FAQ but still can't find an answer) why is Wikipedia not in the default interwiki links ? [03:35:19] Are there default interwiki links? [03:35:29] Simetrical, many [03:35:34] If so, I suppose they're just to mediawiki.org, and Meta for historical reasons. [03:35:35] Hmm. [03:36:52] Simetrical, nope.. there's quite a few to quite varied wikis [03:36:58] but no wikipedia [03:37:03] That is kind of odd. [03:38:29] in the talk page there are questions about those defaults dating back to 2006 [03:40:51] i just manually added wikipedia, so now there are 175 interwiki namespaces.. and the only one I've added is wikipedia [03:41:14] anyway, it's no big deal.. just a curiosity [03:52:24] 03(NEW) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (ironiridis) [03:53:14] 03(mod) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 (10ironiridis) [03:53:44] 03(NEW) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (wikt.3.connelm) [04:07:24] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 (10ariel) [04:44:46] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 +comment (10dmcdevit) [05:12:36] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 +comment (10steinninn) [05:58:06] 03(NEW) Upload window bigger - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11416 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (steinninn) [06:13:04] how do I get $wgAllowExternalImages to work, apart from doing the logical thing (setting it to true)? [06:17:31] <_wooz> lo [06:42:58] 03(NEW) Internationalisation file for the CategoryTree extension shown on pages top - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11417 major; high; MediaWiki: Categories; (arno.raymond.lagrange) [06:47:37] SportChick: :) [06:49:30] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 (10steinninn) [07:05:03] VoiceOfAll: ? [07:08:06] 03aaron * r25977 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: *Normalize messages a tad [07:08:09] Werdna: meow [07:16:18] 'Revision history of "Sam Donaldson"' [07:16:30] ok, heh, who changed the page hist message? [07:23:20] *Werdna points VoiceOfAll to svn blame [08:07:50] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 +comment (10a9502784) [08:13:08] 03kim * r25978 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: Some of those final promised bugfixes to copy.php [08:46:59] is there a channel for semantic mediawiki? [08:47:35] If you use DPL please join the fun in #DPL [08:48:54] pabs3: ? [08:49:11] wondered what DPL was [08:49:20] there won't be any fun with that attitude ;-) ... Oh ok [08:49:52] I am looking for a semantic mediawiki channel before I create one... [09:17:16] 03(NEW) upload new logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11418 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (AheunHana) [09:18:04] 03(mod) upload new logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11418 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [09:24:41] 03kim * r25979 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/copy.php: [09:24:41] add a mysql commit instruction. [09:24:41] (EH?) [09:31:20] 03siebrand * r25980 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageCs.php: [09:31:20] * Grammar for wikibooks in cs. [09:31:20] * Whitespace/tab fixes [09:33:53] 03siebrand * r25981 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageCs.php: Updates for name change of Czech Wiktionary [09:47:23] hi. i just installed the ldap-authentication extension which works like a charm (small university institute with ~25 people). is there any possibility to do an automagically single-sign-on through windows -> apache -> mediawiki? if i got it right, this would only be possible with ntlm-support and this isnÄ't included yet into the extension. or does anyone know a possibility? [09:58:06] Mediawiki 1.9.3, Php 5.2.1. User tries to edit page and gets: A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [09:58:06] (SQL query hidden) [09:58:06] from within function "Block::load". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'ipb_anon_only' in 'where clause' (localhost)". [09:58:23] scs1ng: run maintenance/update.php [09:58:46] I've run the update.php script in case that was the problem, but this runs OK but does not cure it [10:00:41] also, another user reports that when he tries to login, he gets: A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [10:00:41] (SQL query hidden) [10:00:41] from within function "User::saveSettings". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'user_newpass_time' in 'field list' (localhost)". [10:01:37] could the update script think that the db is updated, when in fact it isn't? [10:01:49] if so, how do i force an update? [10:05:06] you shouldn't need to [10:05:15] it adds the field user_newpass_time if it doesn't exist. [10:07:20] so any clues about why it isn't? there are no errors reported when i run the update script [10:10:08] does the update script have proper permissions to modify the table schema? [10:11:15] how do i tell? (no permission errors are reported) [10:11:55] have you updated the update script from svn? [10:12:29] i had a thought: i'll check that the update script is actually updating the right database (I have several sites and use different table prefixes for the different sites). Back when i have checked that. [10:14:18] 03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German and English Wikipedias - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833 (10N/A) [10:26:30] 03(mod) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 +comment (10danny_b) [10:26:43] i am really confused here. Looking at the update.php and its sub-scripts, I don't see how it manages to update tables if there is a $wgDBprefix. If I have a prefix, would I expect to see that prefix shown in the progress output from update.php? I don't. [10:37:50] http://infra.ts.wikimedia.org/fisheye/browse/wikimedia [10:37:55] (still indexing, but you get the idea) [10:40:45] 03(mod) __EDITPARENTSECTION__ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 +comment (10danny_b) [10:49:12] *Werdna looks [10:49:44] ehhh, loading takes about ten years [10:51:07] flyingparchment: did you write it? [10:53:02] ah no, I see it's shareware [10:55:55] anyone got an answer? I have several sites all using the same wikidb, but with different table prefixes. when i run update.php for one site, the output produced shows table names that don't include the prefix, and the update doesn't seem to be done. Is this to be expected? [10:57:04] yes. [10:57:37] $wgDBprefix is applied another way. [10:59:00] so how do i update this site? [10:59:56] run it for each site. [11:00:11] (in the maintenance/ directory of each site) [11:01:30] Werdna: yes. but we should be getting a free license [11:02:04] flyingparchment: I'm not on the author list [11:02:32] oh I see, still scanning [11:06:24] but that is just what i am doing! My sites are set up using the recipe at http://www.steverumberg.com/wiki/index.php/WikiHelp so i have a linked, shared maintenance directory. Should I create a new copy for each site? [11:07:15] flyingparchment: what's infra.ts.wm.org? [11:18:51] 03huji * r25982 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: [11:20:18] scs1ng: well, I would imagine that's your problem [11:22:37] so just copy /maintenance and its sub-directories from the source directory to the site directory for each wiki? I'm still not clear how the update script uses the table prefix - it doesn't seem to pay any attention to the prefix, looking at the source code. [11:23:09] scs1ng: read the maintenance/archives/patch-*.sql - they all have /*$wgDBprefix*/ in them, which gets substituted for the DB prefix. [11:24:29] anyway, the issue is here: $IP = realpath( dirname( __FILE__ ) . '/..' ); [maintenance/commandLine.inc]. That guide suggests you link your maintenance directories with symbolic links, which are dereferenced by realpath to point to the same directory. [11:24:43] realpath() expands all symbolic links and resolves references to '/./', '/../' and extra '/' characters in the input path. and return the canonicalized absolute pathname. [11:25:02] Werdna: infra.ts.wm.org is a toolserver subdomain for "extra stuff", i.e. not user webspace or database. it's currently used for the new/experimental toolserve ug tracker and repository browser [11:25:16] nifty. [11:26:11] ok, so now we just have to discover why this is not working! [11:26:36] scs1ng: I told you why it isn't - it's using the same LocalSettings.php for all of them. [11:27:37] if a have changed a language file, is there a tool to easily update all entries in MediaWiki: namespace? [11:28:03] scs1ng: when running maintenance scripts, you have to somehow make sure they pick up the right config (AdminSettings.php and LocalSettings.php) for the respective wiki. if realpath is used internally, and you have set up individual wikis using symblinks, it will not work automatically because for all wikis, it will find the config located relative to the *real* path, not the "linked" path. [11:28:23] sorry; i missed that. apologies if i am being slow. [11:28:27] scs1ng: i think you can use --config=somepath (or some such) to specify what config to use [11:28:33] Aviator not that I know of. However, if the changes you did are "corrections", it is better to let them be added to MediaWiki code [11:29:11] Hojjat: I'm planning to do so. :) [11:29:21] Good idea [11:29:27] so the workaround might be to copy siteA/LocalSettings.php to source/, temproaruly, do the update, and then remove the copied localSettings.php? [11:29:37] If you know how to create a patch, just send the patch to bugzilla. Otherwise, just send a textfile or something [11:29:43] yes, it's called 'DELETE FROM page WHERE page_namespace=NS_MEDIAWIKI' [11:29:44] ;) [11:29:51] Aviator: update? in recent versions of mediawiki (>= 1.10, i think), message that where not changed explicitly will always be takn from the language files. for older versions, you can use maintenance/rebuildMessages.php (but you will lose all custom messages) [11:30:23] Werdna: that would leave a lot of orphaned revision entries... [11:31:04] Duesentrieb: I know, but I was being facetious, and I couldn't be bothered to write the accompanying DELETE FROM revision query, which is more complex [11:31:11] Duesentrieb: thanks [11:31:15] Duesentrieb: I'll see what happens with --config Is the 'somepath' the path to my LocalSetiings.php, or just to the directory in which it is ? [11:31:31] DELETE FROM revision WHERE (SELECT page_namespace FROM page WHERE page_id=rev_page)=NS_MEDIAWIKI; [11:31:34] ;) [11:31:37] scs1ng: not sure. i think it's LocalSettings.php [11:31:56] i'll give it a go. Many thanks [11:32:05] Werdna: i think you could just delete from a join [11:32:14] meh. [11:32:16] Werdna: but i was just nitpicking [11:32:18] that would involve rtfming [11:32:23] :P [11:33:18] Duesentrieb: I don't find such script :( [11:34:24] if ( isset( $options['conf'] ) ) { [11:34:24] $settingsFile = $options['conf']; [11:34:24] } else { [11:34:24] $settingsFile = "$IP/LocalSettings.php"; [11:34:26] } [11:34:37] Aviator: i think it no longer exists in versions of mediawiki that no longer copy all messages into the namespace. [11:34:38] eevidently, it should be the path to LocalSettings.php [11:34:50] Aviator: i.e. if it's not there, you shouldn't need it. [11:35:28] Werdna, scs1ng: ah, so it's --conf, not --config [11:35:51] apparently so [11:36:39] php update.php --config /path/to/LocalSettings.php doesn't appear to do anything different from running it without the --config; I assume that the option is not being seen by the script [11:36:52] I'll try --conf then [11:37:33] you can also try --conf=/path instead of --conf /path [11:38:26] Duesentrieb: we have a message named "Contris". Shouldn't that be "Contribs"? [11:38:29] it works!! at least it is producing updating messages... [11:39:06] I meant, "mycontris" and "mycontribs" [11:39:27] yes, it is supposed to be = [11:39:31] $bits = explode( '=', $option, 2 ); [11:40:01] Werdan was that to me, or to scs1ng? [11:40:16] Hojjat: who is "we"? and where exactly is that name used, and as what? [11:40:37] scs1ng. [11:40:44] Werdna: both forms are supported, if config is defined to be a "greedy" paramter. [11:40:57] not sure if it is set up for that. it *should*... [11:41:09] Duesentrieb: In the Messages files, we have three entries with "mycontris" in them. I thought if "mycontribs" would have been better... nothing important indeed [11:41:25] Hojjat: looks like a typo to me. [11:41:35] Hojjat: is that actually being used? [11:41:43] Duesentrieb yes [11:42:03] 'mycontris' => 'My contributions', [11:42:09] ah, well. i found some NTLM workaround/solutions, but perhaps i better get in contact with the ldap-auth-extension author [11:42:11] 'accesskey-pt-mycontris' => 'y', # don't translate or duplicate this message to other languages [11:42:16] 'tooltip-pt-mycontris' => 'List of my contributions', [11:42:36] all other instances of the same word, are "contribs" with "b" [11:42:39] Hojjat: yea, i see. well, it's not *wrong* but it does look odd. the common abriviation is "contribs". [11:42:50] 'contribsub2' => 'For $1 ($2)','nocontribs' => 'No changes were found matching these criteria.', [11:42:51] it kind of reads like it was named by a German :) [11:42:57] Duesentrieb: Forgot to tell: every message in my MediaWiki namespace has been changed explicitly [11:43:18] Duesentrieb: So you think it is not worth being changed, right? [11:43:27] Aviator: and now you have edited the language file? well, then you have two conficting sets of messages, right? [11:43:37] so, how would you expect a tool to merge them? [11:43:42] Duesentrieb: yes [11:44:03] Duesentrieb:because I can easily make a patch the fixes all of them, both in messages and in the code [11:44:54] Duesentrieb: I don't want to merge, just copy all messages from the file into the database, or perhaps reset the database if it can be done [11:44:56] Hojjat: extensions might be using it too... well, you can make a pach, but i'm not sure it makes all that much sense to mess with the names if there's nothing really broken. [11:45:18] Aviator: sure. delete the pages in the mediawiki namespace. then the wiki will use the language file. [11:45:30] Duesentrieb: well, there are messages which are getting renamed every now and then. [11:45:45] Aviator: maintenance/deleteDefaultMessages.php exists for that - though i'm not sure how it decides what isa "default" message. [11:45:59] 'cantcreateaccounttext' was changed to 'cantcreateaccount-text' recently! [11:46:01] Hojjat: do not change message names without need. you would break all localizations [11:46:03] Hojjat: *shrug* - submit a patch and see. [11:46:27] Hojjat: oh yes, Raymond_ is right: any wiki using a cusom text for that will hate you. [11:46:28] Duesentrieb: Oh I didn't mean that! I agree with you, indeed [11:46:32] didn't even think about that [11:46:40] :) [11:46:47] okay, don't worry [11:46:53] *Raymond_ was stabbed in the past for these things :( [11:46:58] hehe [11:47:11] *Hojjat taps Raymond_'s shoulder [11:50:54] Hojjat is stabble now with commit access :P [11:51:15] stabble means? [11:51:16] My update problem is solved! Many thanks. I will add this tip to http://www.steverumberg.com/wiki/index.php/WikiUpgrade . I'm really grateful for the advice. [11:51:44] And besides, I only have commit permission for one file! [11:58:02] hm... nice skinning job: http://www.arborwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page [12:00:00] 03(mod) Set logo for Korean Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11418 summary (10robchur) [12:04:58] TimStarling: do you have a minute ? [12:08:33] re [12:08:49] ppl how to make link on category ? [12:09:01] [[:Category:Foo]]# [12:09:10] ty [12:09:11] nerver mind the # [12:09:48] forgot about first : [12:32:51] 03proes * r25983 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (5 files): [12:32:51] * Introduced WikiDataSet that encapsulates a set of wiki data tables including their prefixes. [12:32:51] * Removed $xxxTable globals from WikiDataTables.php, replaced by one $dataSet global [12:33:20] 03(FIXED) Internationalisation file for the CategoryTree extension shown on pages top - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11417 +comment (10robchur) [12:39:09] 03(mod) Internationalisation file for the CategoryTree extension shown on pages top - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11417 (10robchur) [12:44:08] 03robchurch * r25984 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/README: Use absolute path in installation instructions (include $IP), to avoid issues when running maintenance scripts, etc. [12:47:17] 03robchurch * r25985 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/README: oops ;) [13:07:05] Werdna: infra.ts is toolserv infrastructure (this, the bug tracker, etc) [13:26:03] 03proes * r25986 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (3 files in 2 dirs): First step in refactoring "Recreate indexes for all tables for website.php" [13:44:39] rar brion-work [13:45:14] tgz [13:45:42] *Werdna slaps brion-work around a bit with a large 7zip [13:46:07] brion-work: can I corner you about that *links stuff? [13:46:17] *Platonides bzips Werdna [13:46:45] *VoiceOfAll gzips the bzip [13:47:06] *Duesentrieb gunzips the bunzips [13:47:16] now we see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! I'M BEING COMPRESSED! [13:47:59] *Werdna hopes the reference was overt enough. [13:48:16] Is there any tool to convert docbook to wiki? [13:48:45] doubt it [13:49:16] probably not so hard to do for basic formatting [13:49:24] ugga [13:50:01] well I can remove all the tags with sed, and then just paste it in and re-format [13:50:12] didn't want to go to the trouble if there was a tool for it though [13:50:28] misty_wrk, Werdna: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta/DocBook_to_Wiki [13:50:28] 03proes * r25987 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/WikiDataTables.php: Created utility function on VersionedTable to create versioned variants of the same index. [13:50:44] misty_wrk: perl script, pretty close to sed :) [13:50:47] I stand corrected. [13:51:15] thanks! [13:51:33] 03(mod) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 (10ironiridis) [13:57:29] 03proes * r25988 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/Database scripts/Convenience/ (3 files): Replaced 'Create uw_expression indices.sql' by PHP code. [14:09:32] you know, it turns out it's not hard at all to just paste the xml into the editor and change the formatting manually, since I had each tag on its own line for the most part [14:09:54] 03proes * r25989 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Replaced Create bootstrapped_defined_meanings indices.sql by PHP code. [14:18:08] 03nikerabbit * r25990 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Messages and date formats for Ancient Greece (grc) [14:19:22] 03proes * r25991 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Replaced Create transactions indices.sql by PHP code. [14:21:49] Can I embed an unordered list inside an ordered one? [14:23:55] yes [14:24:27] Has anyone here worked with KGB archiver? [14:24:57] It is great! MW code is compressed t 1/5 its ZIPed size, in 2 minutes! [14:25:22] misty_wrk: [14:25:23] # ordered item [14:25:25] # another ordered item [14:25:26] #* unordeded item under "another ordered item" [14:25:28] #* another unordered item [14:25:30] # a final ordered item [14:26:02] aha! [14:26:20] thanks, I tried just about every other way [14:27:11] hey folks, how can I create a new group so taht I can block some access to all and re-enable it for just that group? [14:27:22] ..just need to know hwo to create my own group [14:32:38] 03nikerabbit * r25992 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: * Some cleanups that have been hanging here too long [14:32:40] AngryElf: you create a group simply by using it in wgGroupPermissions [14:33:15] AngryElf: groups haveno substance. they are just glue between users and permissions. [14:35:14] but If i want to grant read and/or edit privileges to only a certain group of people this is the direction I want to go, correct? [14:35:37] yes [14:35:45] ~access [14:35:54] hm, bot gone? [14:36:16] ~help [14:36:51] hm... mwbot is here... who silenced him? [14:41:19] 03nikerabbit * r25993 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php TranslateUtils.php): * Bugfix and speed optimization [14:43:35] Duesentrieb: so how come when I do $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; users can't still view pages? [14:44:12] AngryElf: because somehwere in the defaults, ist sais $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true; [14:44:12] 14(INVALID) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 +comment (10brion) [14:44:20] where are those defaults? [14:44:20] AngryElf: "*" is not "all", but "other". [14:44:30] in DefaultSettings.php. [14:44:32] ty [14:44:42] simply set it to fals for all groups you don't want to reqad. [14:45:11] AngryElf: though, not allowing registered users to read seems kind of strange. are you using this for an account approval sheme? [14:45:42] in some instances we need to block everyone and re-enable only a certain group [14:45:54] we're authenticating through LDAP so by default a large number of people have access [14:45:57] AngryElf: oh, and don't forget to set it to true at least for sysop. thatmay not be mentioned explicitely. [14:46:15] ah ok, ic [14:46:17] 03nikerabbit * r25994 10/trunk/extensions/I18nTags/ (. I18nTags.php): * Some parser hooks I use in BetaWiki for testing [14:46:46] so DefaultSettings takes precedence over Localsettings.php? [14:46:59] no. [14:47:01] no, other way around [14:47:05] yes. [14:47:05] it seems to be [14:47:11] 04(REOPENED) Template in nickname in preferences gets expanded, SUBST: - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 +comment (10ironiridis) [14:47:18] I added that */read to localsettings and it's not working [14:47:38] 03(WONTFIX) Install Duplicator extension on German and English Wikipedias - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833 +comment (10brion) [14:47:42] AngryElf: it's not working for *users*, because user/read takes precedence over */read. [14:47:56] AngryElf: permissions are accumulative (logical OR accross groups) [14:47:58] oh, so do user/read in localsettings [14:48:05] yes. [14:50:18] 03nikerabbit * r25995 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser.i18n.php: * Typo in (fi) translations [14:52:09] so just to be clear, group membership is stored in the DB, but the permissions for each group are stored in the php files, correct/ [14:52:15] yes [14:52:23] k, thanx [14:55:08] i'm tellin ya, defaultsettings is taking precedence over localsettings [14:55:25] I have */read and users/read false in localsettings and true in default and it's resulting in true [14:56:21] 03proes * r25996 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Replaced a number of SQL scripts by PHP code. [15:02:55] AngryElf: well... defaultsettings is included in localsettings, near the top. and it's a simple script, and last write wins. [15:03:21] so it can not take precedence, unless you are putting your settinge before the include. which you shouldn't. put them at the bottom [15:03:50] how do I get debug output to the browser? [15:04:10] by looking at the browser? [15:04:22] oh, you mean, stuff from wfDebug? [15:04:55] $wgDebugLogFile = "php://stdout"; <--- *might* work, i have never tried. it will cause a lot of warnings though (headers already sent) [15:04:57] just print some output to the wiki page really [15:05:22] hm? print to a wiki page? [15:06:49] so I can reload the main page of my mediawiki and see some debug output, eg the value of a variable or something [15:07:24] 03nikerabbit * r25997 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/ (SpecialRenameuser.php SpecialRenameuser_body.php): * Defer message loading if possible [15:08:04] joachim-n: just print it? or use wgOut->addHtml [15:09:35] like wgOut->addHtml('hello'); ? [15:09:57] $wgOut [15:10:50] from within an extension I get an error that $wgout is a non-object [15:12:14] oh hang on. forgot to say global. got it :) [15:12:18] thanks :) [15:12:22] 03(NEW) Missing global var import in SF_CreateTemplate.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11419 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [15:13:03] 03(mod) Missing global var import in SF_CreateTemplate.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11419 (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [15:16:25] What's the magic trick to getting a ToC to automatically show on a page? I have three level-2 sections, each with a long ordered list with screenshots interspersed. It makes for a very long page, but no ToC [15:17:16] Misza13: toc shows up if you have at least 4 headings. you can use __FORCETOC__ to force it. [15:17:31] put that at the beginning of the page? [15:17:32] misty_wrk: that was for you [15:17:36] I got it [15:17:42] weherever you want it [15:17:46] commit spree! [15:17:48] default position is below the firsth paragraph [15:18:07] or above the first heading? not sure [15:18:07] that worked, thank you a lot [15:18:17] 03proes * r26000 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Replaced a number of SQL scripts by PHP code. Only attribute tables are left to do. [15:18:20] what is that kind of thing called? [15:18:25] with the __ around it [15:18:26] magic word [15:18:30] cool [15:18:33] "What's the magic word?" [15:18:48] though that term is a bit non-discript internally. [15:19:11]

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