[00:23:17] hello [00:23:42] Can anyone help with an upgrade [00:26:22] I need to go from wiki 1.10.1 on mysql 4 to latest version of wiki on latest version of mysql [00:26:34] what is the best way to do this [00:36:07] zak: just back up your db and files, i don't think a move from 1.10 to 1.11 will be very painful [00:44:51] ok great thansk [00:46:07] hello [00:46:41] exit [00:46:42] quit [00:46:46] haha [00:46:55] umm [00:46:58] goodbye [00:47:00] chau [00:47:02] leave [00:47:03] walk out [00:47:12] closing door [00:47:14] [00:56:20] 03(NEW) Component for Wiktionary JS within Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11497 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (wikt.3.connelm) [00:56:25] *hippietrail waits for connel's amazing feats... [00:57:24] 03(mod) Component for Wiktionary within Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11497 summary (10wikt.3.connelm) [00:57:42] phew (-: [00:57:47] :-) [00:58:06] how do you move a wiki from one server to another? I can't find this in the documentation on mediawiki.org. [01:01:16] 03(mod) Component for Wiktionary within Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11497 (10hippytrail) [01:03:27] where is the part of making directories when upload images? [01:04:18] pac1: I'd back up the old server, and restore onto the new server. Or do you mean changing domain name? Or do you mean just copying the contents of /var/lib/mysql/ ? [01:13:06] hm wfImageThumbDir seems do it [01:21:22] mm.. [01:23:33] where is it.. [01:23:35] I'm trying to enable the HttpAuth extension. I installed, and a copied the 5 lines I see in the doc. Added session_start(); at the top of LocalSettings.php (this part is unclear in the doc - it says "top of the page"). [01:24:00] I get an Internal Error. Even with $wgShowExceptionDetails = true, all I get is the "generic error". [01:34:43] 03(mod) Wiktionary Bugzilla component requested - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8935 (10hippytrail) [01:35:39] 03(mod) Component for Wiktionary within Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11497 +comment (10hippytrail) [01:38:14] 03(mod) Wiktionary Bugzilla component requested - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8935 +comment (10robchur) [01:38:15] 14(DUP) Component for Wiktionary within Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11497 +comment (10robchur) [01:38:42] 04(REOPENED) Wiktionary Bugzilla component requested - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8935 +comment (10robchur) [01:40:23] So what's the word on wiki-editing botnets? I've got one that posts no spam, just nonsense words like "vitrocletoou". [01:41:14] Connel, I'm not on a domain. I'm just moving from one server on my internal net to another. [01:41:55] I'm not even sure what all the pieces are that need to be moved. [01:43:46] pac1: take an SQL dump and copy the file structure? [01:57:43] can anyone tell me where i can access the latest successful historical dump of all the articles, it's failed the last two times and i can't find the link to anything before that [01:57:48] 03(mod) Wiktionary Bugzilla component requested - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8935 (10wikt.3.connelm) [02:08:41] a question: I have mediawiki installed to a www.domain.net/wiki at dreamhost, I found this document: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/MediaWiki#Beautifying_URLs but my situation is that my wiki is *already* installed. How can I move the wiki or get around this? [02:09:52] mv wiki w :D [02:11:41] eh? just login shell and do it? [02:11:53] what of all the internal links? [02:12:09] it's based on $IP, [02:12:20] see top of the localsettings.php [02:12:55] $wgArticlePath, isn't it? [02:14:07] erm, ok I don't know what those last two posts from you two mean [02:14:13] I get the shell mv part [02:14:33] then you'd have to change $wgArticlePath to "$IP/w/" or the like [02:14:41] in LocalSettings.php [02:15:13] what if I don't like 'w' can it be anything other than 'wiki' and if so what's the odity with /wiki to begin with [02:15:23] anything you want [02:15:38] is 'w' visible in the url/ [02:15:52] (will I want to choose something polite) [02:15:56] ;) [02:16:05] yeah, it's what links will point to [02:16:59] ok, so say for example my wiki is called foowiki, I'd eventually have www.domain.net/foowiki/wiki ? [02:17:16] or www.domain.net/foowiki/whateverpage [02:17:20] yep [02:17:32] ok [02:17:45] should I change the localsettings.php prior to or after the mv [02:17:49] doesn't matter [02:17:52] and thanks for all this help by the way [02:18:00] no problem [02:18:02] alxndr: I ask because I have people reading it right now [02:18:49] it doesn't matter what happens first, but the wiki will be unreadable when the wiki pages aren't where wgArticlePath says they should be [02:18:53] so you'll want to do it quickly [02:20:20] ok I am about to, just making really sure here before I do. I have www.domain.net/wiki/everything-in-it (as seen from my dreamhost panel). I will be doing basically: mv /wiki/ /foowiki/ or mv /wiki/* /foowiki/ [02:20:44] I assume /* since I don't want /foowiki/wiki/ [02:24:39] Any devs about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Unusedcategories keeps throwing up SQL errors every few refreshes [02:27:07] alxndr: ? am I thinking right on that? mv /wiki/* /foowiki/ ...and not: mv /wiki/ /foowiki/ ? [02:27:39] i'd cd into the main directory and just mv ./wiki ./foowiki [02:35:25] what's the . for [02:45:03] "./" means current directory; ie, "/wiki/" in the current directory. [02:52:06] 03(NEW) Whitespace should be fixed automatically - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11498 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (l8qjvx002) [02:53:34] ok, thanks [02:55:58] is this the line to edit in localsettings.php? [02:56:01] $wgScriptPath = "/wiki/"; [02:57:14] "$IP/wiki/", and also $wgArticlePath = "$IP/wiki/"; [02:57:40] and $wgScript = "$IP/wiki/index.php"; [03:00:35] i don't have an $wgArticlePath [03:00:56] it defaults to wpScript [03:01:07] er, wgScript [03:01:21] ok, I did a word search, 'article' not in that file of mine [03:01:26] so wgScript it is :) [03:01:38] case sensitive search? [03:07:03] yes [03:07:09] I searched for both [03:07:30] it's moving now [03:07:36] I see a filetree so far at the newdir [03:07:42] still in progress [03:08:00] ah crap [03:08:16] it worked, but my urls are still uglified, just in a new path [03:08:38] :/ hrm [03:09:44] any ideas? [03:13:21] I made the .htaccess from the first block of this page http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Mod_rewrite [03:13:34] and moved my wiki from /wiki/ to /mywiki/ [03:14:00] and edited localsettings.php to reflect $wgSript to /mywiki/ [03:14:23] Are pre tags not allowed in templates? [03:15:24] on this page, it instructs to edit certain entries in localsetting.php that do not appear in my own localsetting.php http://wiki.dreamhost.com/MediaWiki#Alternate_simpler_method [03:19:00] briareus: Add new ones [03:19:18] TheFearow: ok [03:19:33] All but a few entries do not exist in localsettings.php by default - if you want to change them, you add them to that file and set a new value [03:20:26] 03yurik * r26234 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (108 files in 12 dirs): Merged with trunk: 25838-26096 [03:21:25] TheFearow: well I did it, and now my wiki is not found :/ [03:22:09] actually it goes to the root [03:22:19] Weird [03:22:25] Thats a problem with the setting value then [03:22:50] after adding those lines and saving, when I refresh www.mydomain.net/mywiki it leaps up to www.domain.net but still shows a url of www.domain.net//mywiki [03:23:19] (shows home page not wiki, is what I mean) [03:24:09] I edited to these lines: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/MediaWiki#Alternate_simpler_method (the top block) [03:24:15] then I refreshed, had a 404 [03:24:41] so I then added $wgScriptPath = ""; to $wgScriptPath = "/mywiki/"; [03:24:48] and it goes to homepage [03:25:35] when I had that exact line before (just a solo $wgScriptPath = "/mywiki/"; it worked but with uglified urls [03:25:40] so the others must be the problem [03:26:44] You still need to set $wgScriptPath to something [03:26:50] 03yurik * r26235 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (76 files in 13 dirs): Merged with trunk: 26097-26234 [03:27:01] Did you set wgArticlePath? [03:27:33] $wgScriptPath = "/titanowiki/"; [03:27:34] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath"; [03:27:34] $wgRedirectScript = "$wgScriptPath/redirect.php"; [03:27:34] $wgArticlePath = "$wgScript/$1"; [03:27:51] this alone workw with ugly urls: $wgScriptPath = "/titanowiki/"; [03:27:59] but with the other three, not [03:28:42] the file originally had only $wgScriptPath ="/wiki/"; before my mv [03:29:01] Ok, let me see [03:29:15] Ahh I found the problem. [03:29:28] Wait, did you follow the Simple URL instructions? [03:29:41] You've changed the values around strangely [03:29:47] following this http://wiki.dreamhost.com/MediaWiki#Alternate_simpler_method [03:29:53] it shows exactly what I pasted above [03:29:58] !simpleurl @ briareus [03:29:58] You don't have permission to do that. [03:30:03] except for a "" instead of my "/titanowiki" [03:30:08] !simpleurl [03:30:08] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [03:30:30] Try re-following those instructions, especially the bits on changing settings [03:31:16] I tried this once, I can't find the files it says to mention [03:31:27] I searched the whole dir for public_html and found it not [03:32:08] I have an .htaccess in the root of the dir [03:32:38] Just follow its instructiosn on how to set wgScript and wgScriptPath and wgArticlePath [03:32:47] ... [03:32:51] in what? [03:34:01] when I code my .htaccess like the short_url states, I get 404 again [03:34:19] but I don't have or can't find another .htaccess in any public_html [03:35:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Subdomain_with_Subdirectory_in_Article_URL might help [03:35:55] If you dont have a .htaccess file where it is needed, make anew one [03:36:57] I just tried that one too, 404 [03:37:17] Weird [03:37:42] must it be in a public_html dir? I don't have one, and don't know where in the path to put one if I need to [03:37:54] the installtion did come with an .htaccess, but in the main /wiki/ root [03:39:33] public_nhtml is just the normal name for the folder where your site is stored - put it in the main folder of your site/subdomain [03:42:20] its no longer 404, but its back to going to www.mydomain.net but showing www.mydomain.net/titanowiki in the address [03:42:40] Weird [03:43:37] crap, its been down a half hour [03:45:30] that subdomain part you linked to, it says # Use one of the methods above to reduce "/wiki/index.php?title=foo" to "/wiki/foo". [03:45:37] but I can't get any of them to work [03:46:48] I tried to just reset it back to the default, 404 [03:47:55] now when i try what worked but with ugly urls, just homepage [03:49:34] PHEW, got back to ugly urls [03:50:04] ok, so other than moving my /wiki/ to a /mywiki/, all back to starting position. It seems deuglification is not possible from here [03:50:16] I just went through all those options posted [03:50:28] even the dreamhost-specific ones posted by dreamhost [03:53:26] 03(mod) Interwiki code for mzn wikipedia is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 (10N/A) [04:00:39] this is crazy, I have a line that says "uncomment this if you want it to do so and so" and I have it commented, but it does so-and-so anyway [04:00:58] # uncomment this rule if you want Apache to redirect from www.mysite.com/ to www.mysite.com/wiki/Main_Page [04:01:01] # RewriteRule ^$ /wiki/Main_Page [R] [04:01:04] but it's doing exactly that [04:01:55] Do you have anything else in the file? [04:03:02] yes, all commented out [04:03:12] I've tried every variation of instructions [04:03:25] and now I can't get back to a functioning wiki at all [04:03:33] :/ [04:04:07] I have a correct url that should be to my mainpage, but its showing the root website page [04:06:50] when I follow these instructions exactly, I get 404 [04:06:52] 1. Install MediaWiki in www.yourdomain.com/w and not in www.yourdomain.com or www.yourdomain.com/wiki using the Dreamhost control panel [04:06:56] 2. Configure your wiki as normal with ugly URLs [04:06:58] 3. Modify the following options in LocalSettings.php [04:07:01] $wgScriptPath = "/w"; [04:07:03] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [04:07:08] where I am subbing /w for '/mywiki' [04:07:44] if I also switch the ArticlePath to /mywiki I dont get 404 but I get a correct url for wiki mainpage but showing www.mydomain.net homepage [04:08:24] (so I guess saying correct url is wrong, I mean a pretty url. I get a pretty url, showing me the wrong page ) [04:15:23] crap [04:16:03] I've restored the edited files back, I can't regain the wiki, it just keeps going back to the homepage of the website, is there something else at work? [04:16:21] something other than localsettings.php and the .htaccess? [04:16:46] I've put them back to when it was working, but no wiki [04:25:12] this is tragic, I've followed the howtos exactly, several times. I've restored the edited files back to their initial state. I have no wiki. [04:29:37] any help please [04:36:10] aw c'mon guys I was following what you said, i did it, now I have 404, and you're gone [04:36:19] please...? [04:38:06] I've done exactly what it says to here under REWRITE: [04:38:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [04:38:43] since I had moved it all over to /mywiki/ as directed on the other link, I edited where it shows here to put wiki to mywiki [04:38:54] either way, whether I make the edits or not, 404 [04:43:00] The requested URL /titanowiki/w/index.php was not found on this server. [04:43:11] I have no clue what that /w is or where its coming from [04:44:41] 03(mod) Update for Minnan localisation and its extension messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11494 +comment (10shinjiman) [04:47:10] briareus: have you defined $wgScript? [04:47:27] that was the very first thing I did [04:47:38] but now I don't know what it should be [04:48:28] about an hour ago you mentioned setting it to $wgScriptPath but it needs to be "$wgScriptPath/index.php" [04:49:16] it is [04:49:35] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath/index.php"; [04:50:18] is wgArticlePath still "$wgScript/$1"? [04:50:20] I think when that other chatter told me to stop and go instead through the short_url thing, things went awry and then he left [04:50:28] no [04:50:33] let me try that, thanks [04:50:38] no, don't [04:50:41] ok [04:50:48] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath/index.php"; [04:50:48] $wgScriptPath = "/titanowiki/"; [04:50:49] $wgArticlePath = "/titanowiki/$1"; [04:51:04] (I've mv'd all /wiki to /titanowiki) [04:51:09] in that order? ScriptPath needs to be defined before Script [04:51:40] ok done, still 404 [04:51:59] $wgScriptPath = "/titanowiki/"; [04:51:59] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath/index.php"; [04:51:59] $wgArticlePath = "/titanowiki/$1"; [04:52:30] but then this is different from the .htaccess that howto had me do [04:52:56] take the last slash off ScriptPath [04:53:28] done, same [04:54:12] could it be the .htaccess? [04:54:26] could be anything, i guess. [04:54:40] those are the only two I've touched [04:54:44] *briareus crosses fingers [04:54:52] what did you change in .htaccess? [04:55:39] just like this under REWRITE a short bit down the page, minus the ReqriteBase [04:55:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [04:55:51] and I changed the wiki's to titanowiki [04:56:13] can I paste that much here? [04:56:49] it's six lines, won't get kicked for flooding? [04:57:08] i'm not gonna get mad, but i don't make the rules [04:57:14] ok [04:57:17] RewriteEngine On [04:57:17] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [04:57:17] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [04:57:17] RewriteRule ^titanowiki/(.*)$ w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [04:57:17] RewriteRule ^titanowiki/*$ titanowiki/ [L,QSA] [04:57:19] RewriteRule ^/*$ titanowiki/ [L,QSA] [04:57:38] ...tried to follow that instruction, minus the RewriteBase, plus titano [04:58:07] my main wiki page is titled TitanoWiki [04:58:12] my error is: The requested URL /titanowiki/TitanoWiki was not found on this server. [04:58:26] which would be the correct url [04:58:31] you tried going to w/index.php?title=TitanoWiki ? [04:58:51] to "w/" no [04:58:53] I'll try [04:59:12] The requested URL /w/index.php was not found on this server. [04:59:32] wait a minute, where is your index.php? titanowiki/ or w/ ? [04:59:50] titanowiki, I have no idea where the w/ thing even came from [05:00:02] aha [05:00:05] it just showed up in an error on the browser [05:00:10] aha? [05:00:14] *briareus gets hopeful [05:00:22] the first rewriterule is redirecting everything to w/ [05:00:42] change that w/ to titanowiki/ [05:00:45] !! I didn't notice that x/index [05:00:45] You don't have permission to do that. [05:00:58] hee you annoyed mwbot [05:01:34] ok, error has now chenged to "internal server error" [05:01:38] much better [05:01:41] The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. [05:01:45] interesting [05:01:53] so now I have: [05:01:55] RewriteEngine On [05:01:55] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [05:01:55] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [05:01:55] RewriteRule ^titanowiki/(.*)$ titanowiki/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [05:01:55] RewriteRule ^titanowiki/*$ titanowiki/ [L,QSA] [05:01:58] RewriteRule ^/*$ titanowiki/ [L,QSA] [05:02:59] and my lines in .localsettings.php are: [05:03:00] $wgScriptPath = "/titanowiki"; [05:03:00] $wgScript = "$wgScriptPath/index.php"; [05:03:00] $wgArticlePath = "/titanowiki/$1"; [05:09:54] this is where i become less helpful [05:10:07] :) I appreciate the help [05:10:22] my emails are stacking, haha [05:10:47] I had just sent a flash invite to many just before I embarked on this url beautification, I won't do that again [05:10:57] "dude your site doesn't even work" [05:11:04] haha [05:13:19] i guess it might be infinitely rewriting, try adding another RewriteCond [05:13:50] of what form [05:13:59] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^titanowiki/index.php [05:14:02] ...i think [05:15:09] er, !^/titanowiki [05:15:43] :) I appreciate it, I really do, but still 404 [05:15:50] sorry, I mean internal server error [05:16:26] change the rewriterules with ^titanowiki to ^/titanowiki too [05:16:53] actually yeah, just toss / before all the titanowiki in .htaccess [05:17:39] oh, that changed it back to 404 [05:17:57] ... [05:17:59] crap [05:18:13] whoops. [05:18:16] phew [05:18:20] I thought you'd buggered [05:18:23] :) [05:18:45] nope, crashed my IRC client. [05:18:49] anyway. [05:19:10] ok, the error changed with that / change, to: The requested URL /titanowiki/titanowiki/ was not found on this server. [05:19:14] which looks recursive [05:19:23] should be /titanowiki/TitanoWiki [05:19:39] i think mediawiki takes care of the capitalization [05:20:05] well the error before had the caps [05:21:09] 03yurik * r26236 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/SpecialUpload.php: Synced with the root. This is the version that is being merged with the trunk. [05:21:11] how about this, take out all the rewriterules except for this: RewriteRule ^(.+)$ /titanowiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA] [05:22:16] might need a slash in that first bit [05:22:31] YOU ARE A GOLDEN GOD [05:22:34] YOU ARE A GOLDEN GOD [05:22:34] hot shit [05:22:35] YOU ARE A GOLDEN GOD [05:22:54] http://www.titanomachy.net/titanowiki/TitanoWiki [05:22:59] whoops [05:23:25] seriously, you are a golden GOD [05:23:52] so, perhaps I should edit that wiki since it caused me so many troubles "a third way to do this without all the cruft is..." [05:24:30] yeah i keep meaning to post the setup i have [05:24:45] ...which took me like three days of fiddling with .htaccess [05:25:10] alxndr: you have no idea [05:25:18] I wish I could pour you a drink [05:25:19] oh i bet i do [05:25:26] or a coffee or something [05:25:33] hehe [05:25:36] i could go for either [05:25:41] me too [05:25:48] and even a cigarette, though I wuit [05:25:52] quit, but sheesh [05:25:55] anyway yeah post the setup you have, maybe it'll help someone else [05:26:10] thanks, I will, since here's the funny bit about what you just helped me do: [05:26:22] there is a short_url howto, and a beautification howto [05:26:26] you just helped me do both [05:26:36] with less code than either of the other howtos [05:26:41] aw shucks [05:26:45] put that in your pipe and smoke it [05:26:53] i've got my wiki down to domain.net/Article [05:27:14] despite the prophetic warnings against it [05:28:59] interesting [05:32:51] 03yurik * r26237 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: [05:32:51] Merged from apiedit_vodafone branch, r26236. [05:32:51] The functionality must not have changed - this commit separates the file upload into internalProcessUpload(), while leaving processUpload() to handle web-UI only. [05:33:19] thanks again alxndr [05:33:24] no problem [05:46:59] How could I make the footnote float not so high? [05:49:26] For example in Wikipedia the notes float so high that they destroy the flow of the text. [05:50:05] I quickly tried to find an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution#Mutation [05:50:22] So the notes make the line break too big. [05:50:42] Hnhg, hard to explain. Hope that you understand what I mean. [05:51:40] what breaks what? [05:53:54] *micaelzer sees nothing destroied [05:54:17] *amidaniel destroies micaelzer [05:54:26] lol [05:55:05] heh [05:55:22] fixme up! [05:55:40] 03yurik * r26238 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): bug fixes and reorg for api edit. [05:55:45] Erkkimon, something like sup.reference { line-height: 0.9em; } ? [05:56:00] *amidaniel meows in yurikny's direction [05:56:23] vodafone has gone from asia area [05:57:36] yurikny: What all are you mergind? I see you brought Special:Upload over [05:57:50] yep [05:57:52] merging* [05:58:03] nothing much - just the file upload thing [05:58:03] Anything else? [05:58:07] Ah, alright [05:58:10] edit is too broken yet [05:58:17] Indeed :D [05:58:27] *amidaniel is however excited to see the day of apiedit approaching [05:58:29] biggest problem - extensions [05:58:40] will need some clean rewriting [05:59:13] I hope not the extensions themselves, right? [05:59:22] unfortunately - yes [05:59:34] if extension can change the output, the api will break [06:00:14] actually no - i can capture everything that goes to the output, -- php has this [06:00:25] erum ... there's no way to merge in edit while preserving current ext accessors? [06:00:32] but it will be very unhelpful to the client [06:00:51] alxndr: thanks again [06:00:53] think how extensions work [06:01:14] example: edit-save: if the captcha fails [06:01:16] my two cents would be that anything that might break extensions not be merged in until it can be fixed to not do that [06:02:03] Yeah .. what are we doing about confirm edit? [06:02:09] captcha would modify the output by injecting html [06:02:36] That assumes the client reads the output :) [06:02:52] in our case, we need to return much more useful info, like "get image from ..., and send the text in the next commit" [06:03:17] Okay [06:03:26] So we're not going to allow html injection into the output then? [06:03:27] in other words -- extension will return "fail, and here are the extra params" [06:03:43] also, extension will return a callback function -- call it when rendering html [06:04:02] hm okay [06:04:36] thus the form will see that extension failed, and will ask it to render itself (if in html), or simply return the raw data the extension gave back to the client [06:05:34] Wow, that could get messy for clients though -- the whole pt of the api was to get away from html interfaces :D [06:06:05] how would that be messy? [06:06:11] no html will be sent to the client [06:07:02] Then how are we going to transmit the "rendering" of the extension? [06:07:35] For the one case of confirmedit, we can obiously just cheat and hand back an img url, but that won't apply in all cases [06:09:43] easy -- each extension returns an array of extra stuff when it fails: [06:10:42] the captcha would return { 'imageurl' : 'image\path.png', 'status' : 'failed', 'callback' : php-callback } [06:11:06] the edit page would use the 'callback' element to ask the extension to render itself [06:11:20] oh oh i c [06:11:25] whereas api would simply remove 'callback' from the results and send everything else to the client [06:11:56] so extensions kinda have to know about api [06:22:22] alxndr: Oh yeah, that's what I meant. Thank you so much. :) [06:22:42] 03(NEW) Talk namespaces filters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11499 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jc37_friends) [06:26:42] 03david * r26239 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Paged thread history -- not thoroughly tested as yet, but seems to work. [06:45:15] no problem Erkkimon [06:46:11] *sigh* generics in java are so absolutely fabulous .. private E touchCache(E cache) [06:46:17]