[00:01:51] AzaTht: zzzzzZZZZZzzzzz [00:02:46] no no [00:03:06] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Police_man_Twinkle_Head.svg&w=_100000 [00:03:12] fyi [00:04:17] i know. has been like that for days. the error will look less ugly in the next version :) [00:04:37] seriously, last db is bein reimported right now, after that it should work again [00:05:41] Duesentrieb: just that the top notice didn't include en-wiki at all, only de-wiki plus 20 on the second cluster [00:07:09] hm, whait? [00:07:16] whot, i mean. [00:07:25] s1 (en):

Software error:

.... [00:08:03] "Tools may not work for wikis that are contained on the s2 cluster (german wikipedia and about 20 others). " [00:08:15] is there any easy way to delete an account of a wiki? [00:10:16] I missclicked enter while creating an account binding it to the wrong e-mail address [00:10:42] AzaTht: oh, that :) well, i probably should have updated it a while ago to say "all is broken" [00:14:50] hehe [00:15:17] anyone? [00:16:38] Higdur: email addresses can be chnaged. accounts can be renamed. [00:17:04] Higdur: accounts should generally not be deleted, but it's probably not a big problem if the account has no edits. not sure if as tool for it exists. [00:17:21] where can I change the address then? [00:17:31] Higdur: on the preference page for that account. [00:17:39] log in, go to preferences, change address [00:18:04] I don't have access to the password for it since it was sent to the wrong address [00:18:55] nm, I can set it through the password reset extension [00:18:56] hm? you entered it when you created the account, no? [00:19:12] or you can set the email address directly in the database [00:19:47] no, I left it blank for auto-generation, I'm bulk creating users for customers using create by email [00:20:13] and managed to hit enter when I had changed the name but still had the email of the last user entered :/ [00:22:36] Higdur: maybe look into AuthPlugin... filling a web form 1000 times kind of sucks.... [00:22:41] !auth | Higdur [00:22:41] Higdur : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [00:23:01] Duesentrieb: I agree :) [00:23:36] at least I only have 30ish at a time [00:24:01] someone should remove the enter key next to the arrow keys on my laptop though :/ [00:25:12] Why are fields like user_real_name binary collation? [00:25:42] Simetrical: because utf-8 support is a bit broken [00:26:02] Simetrical: also, which collation would you want it to have?... it would have to depend on content language [00:26:57] mediawiki treats everything as binary, unless you tell it to use "experminetal" utf-8 mode. no idea what collations it uses in that mode, though. [00:27:40] Right, that makes sense. [00:29:42] *Simetrical likes how a four-character change can fix a long-standing bug like 278 [00:35:30] are any of you using the EmailObfuscator extension? It doesn't seem to work great out of the box for me. [00:38:21] (for example, obfuscating the mailto bit of the url seems to break the link altogther (MW thinks it's a relative URL and prefixes it; once you fix that, the mailto: links created by don't actually work when you click them to get a blank message) [00:39:10] Thinkling, try asking the author of the extension. [00:46:13] Simetrical: yeah, I'll post on the Talk page for the extension. I was seeing if I could get instant gratification here :) [00:47:25] 03erik * r26296 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtModel.php: eh, SQL injections and unescaped quotes aren't nice .. [00:52:29] 03erik * r26297 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtModel.php: more string escaping .. add $q_ prefix for escaped vars [00:57:03] Hi... anyone know of a good wiki editor out there... openoffice doesnt do a great job - WYSIWYG editor that is ;-) [00:58:00] I need to create a lot of content / docs for a project. [01:01:58] *Simetrical realizes he's spent like ten minutes looking over r26281 and is barely a tenth of the way done [01:04:51] Actually, that's not accurate, I must be closer to done than that. Just my commentary is so much smaller than the commit. [01:08:10] What does it mean? "....inserts a list of reference texts, each preceded by a list of links to the positions in the page linking to the text; this applies for all texts inside tags in the wikitext of the page (but not those in transcluded templates!)." [01:08:47] Che-Anarc, if you don't understand, try it and see. [01:13:12] Good grief, this is a huge commit. [01:13:15] *Simetrical glares at VoiceOfAll [01:31:19] Alright, I know someone pinged me hours ago, but I forget who [01:31:22] Anyone still need me? [02:01:42] 03kim * r26298 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (Copy.php WikiDataAPI.php): Lots of Copy.php work. (Needs technical/development testing) [02:42:53] How can I put some text in a nice formatting box in a wiki? [02:43:00] like a blockquote? [02:43:34]
[02:43:50] i'm not sure if the nice css is in main.css or you need to steal it from en.wikipedia [02:45:50] Hrmmm, that's indenting it, but it's not putting the dotted box around it. [02:46:25] pre puts it in a pretty box. [02:46:27] maybe you're thinking of
 (which you can also do by writing a space at the start of each line)
[02:48:48] 	well, I'd like the pretty box, but without the courier font.  Is there anything that can do that?
[02:49:38] 	gushi: use blockquote, with something like this for the css: blockquote { border: 3px dotted #888 }
[02:50:35] 	That could work.
[02:51:14] 	although if you wanna be really semantic, you should use a div with class="niceformatting" or something
[02:51:30] 	Also, on Wikipedia I've seen a list of possible characters and special things at the bottom when editing, is that a special addon for mediawiki I need?
[02:55:23] 	alxndr, 
isn't generally semantic. You should use a tag corresponding to the reason you're giving it nice formatting, say, because it's a quote or a header or whatever. [02:55:48] right, but if you just want a pretty box and it's not necessarily a quote or header, wouldn't div be the best choice? [02:55:50] gushi, yes, get the CharInsert extension and copy over MediaWiki:Edittools from Wikipedia. [02:55:56] alxndr, depends why you want it. [02:56:01] right. [02:56:15] alxndr, generally if you're making a pretty box it's not just because you like randomly marking everything up in different ways. [02:56:45] hey, i might be a 14 year old girl. [02:59:50] a/s/l? [02:59:56] :)\ [03:06:31] 03rotem * r26299 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/InputBox.i18n.php: Clarify. [03:06:55] 03rotem * r26300 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/InputBox.i18n.php: Fix. [03:20:37] alxndr: on the internet, all the men are men, etc [03:20:57] etc? [03:23:37] alxndr: the usual saying is something to the effect of "on the internet, all the men are men, all the women are men, and all the children are FBI agents ... and they're men" [03:23:52] oh yeah, I had forgotten that [03:23:53] i don't know where the original quote came from or what it is exactly [03:24:04] yeah - so it's impossible that you're a 14 yo girl [03:25:18] < Simetrical> alxndr, generally if you're making a pretty box it's not just because you like randomly marking everything up in different ways. [03:25:25] you've never seen most people's first attempt at web design [03:25:46] I have, but thankfully for the most part that was in 1996. [03:26:38] hehe [03:27:17] VoiceOfAll: Where you trying to get ahold of me earlier? [03:28:46] jimbojw: are you jwales under a different nick or something? [03:29:01] no [03:29:01] 03rotem * r26301 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fixes. [03:29:29] AfterDeath: http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jim_R._Wilson_%28Jimbojw%29 [03:29:38] ah [03:33:23] a (minor) hint on seemingly-innocuous botnets that post random words: seems to have an encoding problem, it turned an em-dash into a careted 'a' [03:44:53] 03rotem * r26302 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser.i18n.php: Fix. [03:51:37] Is there MW API DTD? [03:52:01] no, but there's a TLA WTF BBQ [03:52:42] flyingparchment: I think meaning of "MW", "API" and "DTD" is obvious [03:52:47] maybe you should open a MW API DTD RFC [03:53:38] text/wiki MIME type, wiki syntax RFC, MediaWIki API RFC [03:54:07] alxndr: he'll need an IETF MW API DTD RFC WG to do that [03:54:16] good lord [03:55:43] is it possible to export a wiki into a txt file or something? I need to get total content exported into 1 file [03:55:53] zeno-: maintenance/dumpBackup.php [03:56:00] as a user not admin [03:56:09] ask the admin [03:56:19] so, no it doesn't provide public functionality [03:56:21] *VasilievVV found a bug in MIME-types [03:57:28] *Titoxd points to bugzilla.wikimedia.org [03:57:56] am struggling with this sql query: [03:57:58] $results = $dbr->select( 'page JOIN revision AS after LEFT JOIN revision AS before ON after.rev_page = before.rev_page', array( 'page_title', 'MAX(after.rev_id)', 'before.rev_id' ), $where, null, $options ); [03:58:28] mediawiki puts backticks around `page JOIN revision AS after LEFT JOIN revision AS before ON after.rev_page = before.rev_page` [03:58:36] brion-away: I don't think application/xml is correct MIME type [03:58:55] jablko: select() doesn't take SQL like that. use $dbr->query() [03:59:05] flyingparchment: thanks [03:59:20] (that just takes a normal sql statement) [04:02:25] Simetrical: http://ww2.wizards.com/Gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=Forced_Fruition [04:02:27] cute [04:02:49] Freaky. [04:02:53] http://ww2.wizards.com/Gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=Sower_of_Temptation <3 [04:03:13] Meh, typical control-gain, not very interesting. [04:03:22] 03(NEW) Fix MIME type for Special:Export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11531 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (vasilvv) [04:03:52] http://ww2.wizards.com/Gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=Sentinels_of_Glen_Elendra (more typical control) [04:04:09] Simetrical: boring, but good [04:05:11] Not really. Costs a considerable amount, way overpriced if there are no valid targets, easily removed to restore the creature. [04:06:01] yes, not great, but good in T2 [04:06:10] obviously crap in Legacy [04:06:24] or Extended [04:06:53] I don't follow Magic much, but I'd be surprised if it were good in T2. [04:07:38] well, it depends on the metagame [04:08:37] You'd have to have awfully weak spells for that to be very good. But I'm hardly an expert player. [04:10:28] What do you think of the planeswalkers? [04:10:43] flashy, but I don't like the rules [04:11:14] They seem like a good interpretation of the concept to me. [04:11:25] you can't target them, but you can deal damage to players (ie shock), and if it resolves you can choose to deal it to a planeswalker instead [04:11:31] seems hacked up [04:12:07] (creature removal that is) [04:12:55] Simetrical: the creature stealer would prolly be OK against a non-red deck [04:13:13] in block (1 set so far), there is only 1 cheap burn spell too [04:13:55] VoiceOfAll, you could bounce it or kill it with black removal, or just kill it in combat. Creatures are dead easy to remove, you can't rely on their sticking around for long. [04:14:19] yes, but the fix was a hack [04:14:20] As for planeswalkers, it's a little odd, yeah, but what else are you going to do? Allow them to be targeted as players? Not sensible. [04:16:28] Planeswalkers can be attacked. (See rule 308, “Declare Attackers Step.”) [04:16:59] haha [04:17:42] black removal? [04:18:04] You know, Terror, that kind of thing? [04:18:07] most permanent removal is white/blue [04:18:14] they are *not* creatures [04:18:31] Are any pages for logged in users cached? [04:18:31] . . . [04:18:49] VoiceOfAll, I was referring to the creature-stealer in that line. [04:18:54] apparently, Magic got a lot more complicated since i last played [04:19:01] ahh [04:19:03] TheFearow, all pages are, yes, although cache misses are more likely. [04:19:12] All pages are cached? [04:19:17] TheFearow, well, all content pages. [04:19:29] TheFearow, insofar as the parser cache goes, at least. [04:19:32] I've been watching an old talk by brion who saaid caches are only enabled for not logged in users. Must be very old [04:19:37] I mean squid caches [04:19:51] TheFearow, I would guess logged-in users skip Squid cache, yes, but I'm not sure. [04:19:56] there's more than just a squid cache [04:20:01] there's a parser cache too! [04:20:04] Er, actually, how could they not? [04:20:12] You have to stick the user name in the upper right and all. [04:20:13] *Simetrical tries it [04:20:20] Well, for my extension, I just need them to be getting live views of pages :) [04:20:35] Simetrical: Vary: Cookie [04:20:36] So the parser cache doesnt have a big effect [04:20:50] And the added admin etc buttons [04:21:10] TheFearow: what do you mean it doesn't have a big effect? [04:21:17] flyingparchment, okay, so they could, but surely they don't. [04:21:20] My extension doesnt parse anything [04:21:29] TheFearow: the parser cache applies to the page content [04:21:31] flyingparchment: 212.9g If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. [04:21:41] your extension won't be reinvoked if the page is cached [04:21:43] Yeah, i'm meaning not a big effect to my extension [04:21:50] Ahh! [04:22:12] But it doesnt affect the talk notification area, right? [04:22:19] talk message* [04:22:36] My extension adds another such notification for another purpose, and I assume that part is outside the parser cache area [04:23:15] http://ww2.wizards.com/Gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=Captivating_Glance <--hawt [04:23:32] not good at all, but cute [04:38:34] hey guys [04:38:41] one quick question [04:38:59] how to enable file uploads in mediawiki [04:39:23] am getting the error "File uploads are disabled on this wiki." [04:39:35] how to enable it ? [04:40:28] See the FAQ. [04:40:44] can you give me the URL [04:40:54] I searched but didn't find it :( [04:41:12] Ma1, look in the topic of this channel. [04:43:08] yeah got it thanks [04:43:14] ans sorry [04:43:24] :( [05:32:10] does mediawiki facilitate googlebot in any special way? [05:35:17] gongoputch, it follows most usual SEO best practices. [05:35:34] gongoputch, preferably you should have an appropriate robots.txt too. [05:37:17] I was readin about making 'site maps' for google to do special things with ... [05:45:22] mw has sitemap generator [05:45:30] somewhere [05:45:30] :) [05:45:44] Simetrical: or actually SEO practices follow us [05:46:24] domas, yeah, I don't think our good SEO is particularly intentional. [05:46:43] MW is just really well-suited to SEO by its nature. Descriptive titles for all pages, few duplicate links . . . [05:47:04] Simetrical: in SEO forums wikipedia is a very common example [05:47:13] well, because that is the internet how it should be [05:47:17] and google follows that [05:47:58] :) [05:48:13] Unfortunately, things like "each page should have a short descriptive title" kind of don't work for, say, bulletin boards. [05:58:58] 03(FIXED) Enable email notification on pt wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 +comment (10jeluf) [06:00:13] 03(mod) Internationalization of the CheckUser log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11513 (10bertrand.grondin) [06:03:09] domas: what is 'mw' ? [06:03:22] ah, D'OH! [06:03:35] ;-) [06:04:08] mw, wmf, wm and wp are commonly used abbreviations here :) [06:04:51] I eventually catch on [06:23:53] 04(REOPENED) Delete tokipona wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511 +comment (10jhsoby) [06:53:32] 03(mod) Semantic Forms should use SMWStore instead of direct DB access - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11506 (10lgerbarg) [06:54:44] 03(mod) Semantic Forms should use SMWStore instead of direct DB access - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11506 (10lgerbarg) [06:56:56] 03(WONTFIX) Delete tokipona wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511 +comment (10jeluf) [07:22:03] 03(NEW) Introduce redirect detecting parserfunctions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11532 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (jamydlan) [07:39:00] 03(FIXED) Namespace alias from Wikinews: to Wikinotizie: on Italian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10446 +comment (10jeluf) [08:02:52] Hi. When displaying a page, MW runs many parsers many times, always calling the same global hooks. How can a hook tell from the $parser if it is paring an actual article? [08:04:08] This is relevant since the parsers use different parser-outputs, so if you add HEAD-items during parsing, only the ones added to the right outputs will work, but adding them always generates duplicates. [08:24:16] OK,I now used the $tag parameter supplied by ParserOutput to avoid duplicate headitems [08:29:53] <_wooz> lo [08:54:15] 03mkroetzsch * r26303 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (8 files): Make all head items (including CSS and RDF-link) on-demand and use parser caching for each. [09:00:08] Anyone know whether there is a hook to display something in the place a new messages bar is normally shown? [09:06:13] Looking through the skins its $this->data[] [09:06:21] data['newtalk']* [09:09:36] Anyone know where SkinTemplate is? [09:14:56] 03mkroetzsch * r26304 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QP_Embedded.php SMW_QP_List.php SMW_QP_Template.php): "=" and "|" escaping in template printers was too eager, disabled (will be moved to a more proper place) [09:15:31] 03raymond * r26305 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser_body.php: [09:15:31] * Clear floating successbox so that the following list of moved pages looks nicer [09:15:31] * Kill whitespaces [09:20:08] Anyone around? [09:20:21] No. [09:20:33] :) [09:22:00] 14(WFM) Renameuser fails silently and transiently - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4969 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:34:27] Anyone know where the newtalk stuff is sent to the Skin? [09:37:44] probably under that $params[] thing.. what are you trying to do? [09:38:00] Actually under SkinTemplate $data['newtalk'] [09:38:14] I'm adding a second alert that works essentially the same as newtalk, using the same code [09:38:24] But for a different purpose [09:38:27] teehee, let me guess, "you've been blocked" [09:38:54] No, "There are waiting reports needing your attention", its an admin alert system [09:39:01] ah [09:39:07] meh, /me has a quick look [09:39:15] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Matt/AdminAlert [09:39:23] Thats the preview of it with the alerts :p [09:43:04] Hmmm, from looking through i'm guessing its set from the result of $wgUser->getNewtalk() or $wgUser->mNewtalk but I dont think its the second [09:43:12] data['newtalk'] ) { ?>
html('newtalk') ?>
[09:43:19] skins/MonoBook.php [09:43:25] line 106 [09:43:38] TheFearow: the first one returns the second, IIRC [09:43:43] don't forget other skins... [09:43:45] Yeah [09:43:50] Thats monobok [09:44:11] *Duesentrieb wants a modularized skin system [09:44:14] html("") in SkinTemplate returns the value of $data[''] [09:44:27] *Duesentrieb dosn't know a way to do that in a *fast* way [09:44:42] But $data['newtalk'] is set from some other file which I cant find [09:44:57] TheFearow: includes/SkinTemplate.php [09:44:58] Does anyone know where the reference to the SkinTemplate object is? [09:45:09] I mean, its set from some other non-skintemplate file [09:45:11] reference? [09:45:22] Well there has to be an instance of the object somewhere [09:45:35] In this case likely an instance of the MonoBook class, which is a subclass of SkinTemplate [09:45:43] $wgUser->getSkin [09:45:45] Skin doesnt contain one [09:45:49] Not Skin, SkinTemplate [09:46:05] It seems overly complex :p [09:46:10] it is. [09:46:18] hello [09:46:22] SkinTemplate is confusing - it should be called TemplateSkin [09:46:23] Almost looks like something I wrote (the overly complex stuff) [09:46:36] a special type of skin based on a template (which doesn#t really make sense, but that's how it is) [09:46:39] Everything I write is overly complex :p [09:46:43] SkinTemplate.php defines *two* classes [09:46:52] I guess the skins are just templates the content is put in [09:46:52] what do I need to do to add new interwiki codes after updating the database? [09:47:12] i added: insert into interwiki values('ru.wp','http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1','1','0'); [09:47:22] Should be there immediately [09:47:32] 03(FIXED) Semantic Mediawiki extension increases pages load time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9974 +comment (10mak) [09:47:34] TheFearow: SkinTemplate has a field called $template, which contrains the template. the template, in turn, contains $data [09:47:38] but ru.wp:blabla still doesn't work [09:47:55] Duesentrieb: How would I access that from another PHP file? [09:48:00] TheFearow: the base class for the actual template is QuickTemplate [09:48:05] TheFearow: you don't. [09:48:10] Lovely. [09:48:25] I somehow need to movify $data in the SkinTemplate [09:48:51] TheFearow: in SkinTemplate, look for $newtalks = $wgUser->getNewMessageLinks(); [09:48:59] Thanks [09:49:02] try to understand what i does (it sure confuses me) [09:49:44] It appears to be checking if you have new talk messsages and they are for the current wiki, it sets the value [09:50:58] it also does stuff if there are multiple links... [09:51:08] Apparentally you can have multiple new messages [09:51:09] } else if (count($newtalks)) { [09:51:33] Oh! [09:51:35] Its SUL [09:51:37] anyway, in the end, it sets $tpl->setRef( 'newtalk', $ntl ); [09:51:46] well, i guess it's a preparation for SUL. [09:51:49] "You have new messages on $1" [09:51:56] the first version will not have interwiki notifications, afaik [09:52:02] SUL is already implemented in MediaWiki, just not enabled or configured, or merged [09:52:06] yeah [09:52:14] The basics at least :p [09:52:17] TheFearow: note btw, that not all skins use SkinTemplate. CologneBlue doesn't. [09:52:29] Darn [09:52:37] the skin stuff really sucks [09:52:47] the problem is to improve it while keeping it fast [09:52:53] I need a simple way to add a second new messages bar, or make the first display something else :p [09:53:02] there is no simple way [09:53:18] hooking stuff into the skin is really tricky. [09:53:27] Darn [09:53:41] TheFearow: weeeellll... there's the SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec hook [09:53:52] Ooh, that sounds good :) [09:53:56] TheFearow: this allows you to modify the data in a template for all SinTemplate based skins. [09:54:15] Great, I think i'm stuck using that [09:54:16] you could simply override data['newtalk'] there (i have done stuff like that before) [09:56:32] This is looking like a really bad choice for a first extension :p [09:57:11] yes. messing with the skin sucks. [09:57:32] help please ;) [09:57:44] I'm up for a challenge [09:57:48] yannf: Whats your problem? [09:57:54] what do I need to do to add new interwiki codes after updating the database? [09:57:57] i added: insert into interwiki values('ru.wp','http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1','1','0'); [09:58:01] but ru.wp:blabla still doesn't work [09:58:16] yannf: doesn't work how? can i look at an example? [09:58:29] hmmm, try just ruwp without the dot, that might be annoying it [09:58:35] yannf: also, i'm nnot sure if "." is allowed in a interwiki prefix. try - instead. [09:58:38] http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/index.php/Wikilivres:Interwiki [09:58:40] yea. [09:58:53] it works for en.wp:blabla [09:59:00] Maybe try creating wp: to enwiki, then use wp:ru: and let enwiki handle the transfering to ruwiki [09:59:11] Or [09:59:17] en.wp:ru:blabla [09:59:20] that should redirect [09:59:59] yannf: look at the database and compare the entries for en.wp and ru.wp directly. [10:00:10] yes sure, but why making it complicated for users when it could be simple ;) [10:00:22] I mean to see if that works :p [10:00:35] yannf: adding it to the db *should* be enough. make sure you are doing it on the right db though... [10:00:38] | en.wp | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 | 1 | 0 | [10:00:49] | ru.wp | http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 | 1 | 0 | [10:00:57] try purging? [10:01:02] make sure you don't have anything silly like whitespace padding [10:01:12] TheFearow: doesn't work in preview either [10:01:45] yannf: awild guess: maybe it's cached somehow. touch LocalSettings.php [10:02:05] (i mean, cached outside the parser cache. link cache or something) [10:03:56] if i modify a page, there shouldn't be any cache issue, is it? [10:04:17] puring should do the linkcache [10:04:21] No [10:05:37] TheFearow: purging only kills the page- and parser cache [10:05:55] Hmmm, I thought it got the linkcache [10:06:02] What would clearing the linkcache do to a wiki? [10:06:04] yannf: modifying/purging helps for page/parser cache. [10:06:22] yannf: but if interwiki links are cached separately, that's a diffferent issue [10:06:26] so, touch LocalSettings [10:06:28] i restarted apache & mysql, just in case [10:06:33] that should purge *everything* [10:06:39] no difference [10:06:42] yannf: restarting does *not* help [10:06:52] TOUCH the damn file! [10:08:18] Duesentrieb, i did that, no difference [10:09:05] yannf: sorry, no clue then. [10:10:20] ok, i restarted memcached, and it works... [10:11:13] yannf: oh, why didn't you say you where using memcached :) though i would have expected it to get purged when you touch the settings file... it sets the cache epoche, which should invalidate *everything*. [10:11:19] seems like a bug [10:11:42] Yeah, memcached should definately be purged when you touch the settings [10:12:01] But ideally things like squids should also be purged, but itd kill servers on places like wikimedia [10:12:11] So thats why everything isnt purged [10:12:45] TheFearow: purging squids is very different. that's more like browser cache (complete pages). [10:12:49] Duesentrieb: I'm working on that extension, but now my apache is stuffed up, so I cant test [10:12:56] and it applies only to anons, and only for plain viewing [10:12:59] Yeah, but if you change settings for anons most pages are still cached [10:13:10] internal caches however actually effect how stuff works, and how pages are built. [10:13:14] And often you make a major setting change like skin for anons etc [10:13:18] it's much more important that that is consistant.. [10:13:25] yeah [10:21:42] 03(FIXED) SMW blocked when Extension:Pdf Export is loaded. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11238 +comment (10mak) [10:25:56] Hello! [10:28:27] A quick question: is there anyone around who could skin a mediawiki (for a price)? [10:29:00] Duesentrieb: It worked :) Now I can force annoying orange messages on my users! *evil laugh* [10:29:25] antoviaque: Probably. You might want to ask on mediawiki.org, rather than on here, more likely to be seen [10:29:33] Or the Wikitech-l or Mediawiki-l mailing lists [10:29:50] Thanks, I will try that [10:32:04] 03emil * r26306 10/branches/wikia/google-analytics/squid-ga.patch: * fixed memory leak [10:33:08] As a hook called during parsing, is there any way to find out whether I am in preview (edit) mode? [10:34:51] 03raymond * r26307 10/trunk/extensions/Makebot/Makebot.class.php: [10:34:51] * Allow revocation of bot flag when user has got sysop/bureaucrat status in the meantime [10:34:51] * Show userrights log additional to bot log for convenience too. [10:34:51] * Kill whitespaces [10:36:40] 03(FIXED) ne.wikipedia.org lost mail address and password - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9161 +comment (10jeluf) [10:37:35] MarkusK: Check WebRequest for the value of action [10:37:45] If its set to submit, its either submitting an edit or in preview/showchanges [10:38:00] You could check from the other form values if it was in preview [10:40:54] 03(FIXED) Template queries not rendering tables, templates, parser functions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10062 +comment (10mak) [10:41:50] *symode09 looks around [10:42:35] 03(mod) Template queries not rendering tables, templates, parser functions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10062 (10mak) [10:42:36] 03(mod) ParserFunctions only work in global parser - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7051 (10mak) [10:43:06] *symode09 morphs into brown_cat [10:46:50] TheFearow: ah, good idea, I will try that. [10:47:42] Hmmm, I thought of a really good way to make MediaWiki insecure: eval($_GET['secretcodetorun1234']); [10:55:22] Night all [11:06:08] *brion yawns [11:15:12] 03mkroetzsch * r26308 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_Factbox.php SMW_GlobalFunctions.php SMW_Settings.php): [11:15:12] More control over Factbox behaviour: switch for showing only those with special properties, individual config for [11:15:12] editing and reading. [11:33:15] 03(NEW) Slow performance after upgrade - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11533 major; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (amuenzeb) [11:48:09] 03(mod) Slow performance after upgrade - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11533 (10brion) [11:54:33] 03(mod) Slow performance after upgrade - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11533 +comment (10amuenzeb) [11:56:22] Hello everyone.. Looking for opinions on MediaWiki for commercial use.. [11:57:09] Is it possible? I'm thinking about running a MediaWiki service with commercial ad space.. [12:02:29] awikiadmin: sure it's possible. wikia does it. [12:02:41] and a lot of others too [12:02:50] thx duesentrieb... wikia.com ? [12:03:53] yep [12:04:19] cool. Could you name a couple of others... ? I'm checking out what's possible and what's been done.. [12:04:25] thx in advance. :) [12:07:38] awikiadmin: don't know off the top of my head, but have a look at extensions for including ads: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Advertising_extensions [12:08:28] wikia is probably the larges mediawiki farm with ads, though [12:26:53] brion: hello [12:27:56] 03(mod) Semantic Forms should use SMWStore instead of direct DB access - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11506 (10yaron57) [12:29:13] 03(mod) Namespace alias from Wikinews: to Wikinotizie: on Italian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10446 (10tooby87) [12:32:20] 03kim * r26309 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (Copy.php SpecialCopy.php): Minor stuff to copying [12:33:53] heyyyy [12:34:29] 03mkroetzsch * r26310 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php skins/SMW_tooltip.js): Removed dependency of tooltips from Timeline. Faster. [12:52:30] hi everybody [12:52:47] i try to build a bi-lingual wiki and need some help [12:53:10] VoiceOfAll_: your revisiondelete stuff seems very cool, I'm testing it currently (the one brion reverthammered quickly ;-) - there was a minor bug in SpecialPage.php though as it was trying to open SpecialMergehistory.php ans the file was/is called SpecialMergeHistory.php [12:53:26] 5678 [12:53:35] yeah, that works on windows, dies on linux ;) [12:54:08] VoiceOfAll_: hmm, sounds funny [12:54:40] api über gurus around? [12:55:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Moravian%20Cemetery,%20Staten%20Island&rvlimit=1&rvendid=155640991 [12:55:12] ↑found something fushy [12:55:19] find* fishy* [12:56:21] rvendid seems not to work [12:57:37] 03mkroetzsch * r26311 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [12:57:37] removed further dependencies between scripts; preset all scriptpaths from wgScriptPath instead of scraping them from [12:57:38] HTML [12:58:07] can anybody help we regarding multi language support in mediawiki? i need to build a wiki which lists articles in english as well as in german, do i need to setup two instances of mediawiki? [13:01:10] AzaTht: fishy how? [13:02:02] 03(NEW) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: API; (azatoth) [13:02:08] brion-office: filed a but [13:02:10] bug* [13:02:39] unless my understanding of rvendid is wrong [13:03:12] is so, make the bug invalid and educate me [13:03:52] anybody with multi language wiki experience? buller? buller??? [13:06:27] bluehero: have you seen http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiLanguageManager [13:07:04] 03(mod) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 04CRIT->major (10azatoth) [13:07:43] brion-office: I though rvendid would limit the result up to specified revision [13:09:56] 03(mod) Fix MIME type for Special:Export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11531 15enhancement->trivial; +comment (10vasilvv) [13:12:39] no clue, AzaTht [13:14:06] 03(mod) Fix MIME type for Special:Export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11531 +comment (10Platonides) [13:15:01] thanks for the link. sounds like a possible approach. but how does wikipedia solve this issue. do they only use interwiki links to the different wiki instances en.wikipedia.org, de.wikipredia.org? [13:15:50] brion-office: ok [13:16:21] perhaps you need some of your underdogs to take care of it ツ [13:18:53] VoiceOfAll, brion: but revisiondelete /is/ going to be present in MW 1.12 release, right? [13:19:10] Jack_Phoenix: it better be :D [13:19:17] maybe [13:19:22] \o/ [13:19:32] Voice: you heard brion [13:20:30] brion says a lot of things ;) [13:20:43] haha :P [13:22:18] *brion-office installs libgstreamer dev package so he can recompile pidgin with sound [13:22:20] ahhh, linux [13:23:17] sound in an im client :( [13:30:16] hi, you know how you can have a parser hook that is brought in by "blah" [13:30:27] and then there is a second way [13:30:34] what's that second way called? [13:30:50] with more mediawiki like syntax [13:32:08] bluehero: i believe so, yes [13:32:45] aha! [13:32:53] They are called parser functions [13:32:57] and the ones I was talking about [13:33:00] are called tags [13:33:09] ok, problem solved [13:33:10] brion-office: eyyy! when will you have some review time for that stuff, and some time for the checkuser index change? [13:33:25] 03(mod) MessageCache absurdly slow with CACHE_NONE in read-only mode - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11533 summary; +comment (10brion) [13:33:32] :D [13:33:59] hopefully soon, but soon will be no sooner than next week i can tell you that :( [13:41:05] 03mkroetzsch * r26312 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (4 files): show tooltip warnings in wikipages if an input was not understood; configurable [13:44:27] why would I get the following error: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL, expecting ')' in /home/nike/public_html/dev/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc on line 208 [13:44:35] that line looks fine to me... [13:49:56] $meow = array( 'hello', 'moo', ) [13:50:13] PHP usually doesn't mind the extra , [13:50:25] maybe you have some odd setting going [13:51:49] siebrand: could you paste messageTypes.inc at http://rafb.net/paste/? [13:52:46] puckman: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc?annotate=26274 [13:53:03] ? [13:53:19] puckman: basically better than pasty :) [13:53:25] haha :P [13:53:47] *siebrand smiles broadly. [13:53:50] what is pasty and why do you send me that link? [13:54:04] he mistyped. [13:54:08] ah, lol [13:54:11] puckman: ah, sorry, I meant PunkRock. [13:54:17] darn username completion. [13:54:59] PunkRock: error URL is http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/Special:Translate [13:54:59] yeah. my bitchx always whispers to others. [13:55:16] siebrand: https://infra.ts.wikimedia.org/fisheye/browse/wikimedia/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc?r=26274 :) [13:57:49] flyingparchment: not bad either :) [13:58:27] flyingparchment: although I like the clearer separation of authors in the code with viewvc better [14:02:53] siebrand: ok. thats strange. [14:03:25] PunkRock: yeah, it is... [14:04:20] siebrand: there is no bit operator in the whole file. [14:04:31] or am i wrong? [14:05:20] PunkRock: if I knew what a bit operator was, I could give a real answer. Now I'll just tell you that I am indeed a bot operator ;) [14:05:38] hehe [14:05:50] http://www.php-resource.de/handbuch/language.operators.bitwise.htm [14:05:59] siebrand: look at the link. [14:07:03] or better look at the information on the page provided at the location of the link :) [14:07:04] PunkRock: ah. Then I guess Nikerabbit is doing some magic in Special:Translate that is getting confused... [14:07:42] PunkRock: thank you for taking a look at it. [14:08:02] np. [14:08:29] is this some kind of lame spambot? http://www.efnetcpp.org/index.php?title=Category:Code_Compilation&diff=2737&oldid=2002 [14:08:35] lots of them from different IPs [14:12:50] siebrand: sorry. a better and more descriptive info is at php.net: http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.bitwise.php [14:13:17] siebrand: T_SL is a php token: http://php.net/tokens [14:13:18] flyingparchment: interesting. I got those too at betawiki. [14:13:41] flyingparchment: after blocking a bunch of IPs, it didn't return [14:14:26] flyingparchment: Nikerabbit said he thought it was a broken spambot. [14:16:18] 03mkroetzsch * r26313 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Settings.php: Documentation of new settings [14:18:02] 03(mod) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 (10roan.kattouw) [14:18:16] 03(NEW) Special:AddData doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11535 04BLOCKER; high; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [14:24:19] hi there [14:33:19] The noise:signal ratio on mediawiki-l and wikitech-l is waaaay too low. [14:36:15] too low? [14:36:35] *high [14:36:44] I feel like I am making mistakes all day. [14:37:30] too many newbie questions? [14:37:34] on the lists... [14:38:01] Yeah, I think some people need to RTFM and stop posting BS. I remember that Marathon guy - he got on my nerves. [14:40:13] brion-office: http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/vivalaevolucion/male [14:40:17] sweet! [14:44:13] 03(NEW) AutoLoader.php still references includes/Image.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11536 trivial; low; MediaWiki: Images; (rv1971) [14:47:49] VoiceOfAll: http://www.questionablecontent.net/merch.php#evolution ;) [14:54:52] VoiceOfAll: bug in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Nuke/SpecialNuke.i18n.php?revision=26279&view=markup [14:54:53] # Dutch messages by Siebrand Mazeland 'en' => array( [14:55:04] it should probably be nl, eh? ;-) [14:55:06] *murderer stabs mediawiki devs [14:55:10] Jack_Phoenix: fixing. [14:55:23] ah, thanks siebrand :) [14:55:24] Jack_Phoenix: ugh, those patches are such a pain [14:55:53] VoiceOfAll / Jack_Phoenix: I know I should have done it through Betawiki. That always replaces the lang code. [14:56:05] I'll remember to avoid more such patches [14:56:08] hey, mistakes happen, no biggie, right? :) [14:56:46] 03siebrand * r26314 10/trunk/extensions/Nuke/SpecialNuke.i18n.php: Fix language code (en->nl). Thanks Jack Phoenix. [14:57:05] Jack_Phoenix: ^^^ [14:57:06] brion-office: I never knew a chimp could be so expressive [14:57:17] siebrand, thanks :) [15:01:39] hi guys [15:01:50] 14(DUP) Error message when uploading files of the form file.exe. ogg is unhelpful. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11529 +comment (10brion) [15:02:40] 05 I'd like to know how can I delete previous versions of the webpages i've edited, just to save some space [15:06:11] 03(mod) External links with & in them break in an imagemap - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11504 +comment (10brion) [15:07:16] carla: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2164.html [15:13:27] thank you very much [15:16:54] hello... I'd like to ask about [[Bug:9144]] [15:18:06] JeLuF activated the extension requested (email notification), but where can the settings be edited? I thought it would be in the user preferences.. [15:20:21] according to the manual, it's in the user prefs... [15:20:36] it doesnt show up there (yet) [15:20:40] hm [15:21:27] btw thanks! I thought noone was going to notice that bug, it was filled months ago! [15:21:43] I didn't enable the extension, I enabled the built-in notification [15:22:15] i didnt know there was one... how does it work? [15:22:23] hm [15:22:24] wait [15:22:37] why doesn't the setting show up in the config file... [15:22:46] and why is there an extension if there's already a built-in solution for that? [15:23:11] ok, try again [15:23:18] ok [15:23:33] ah :D [15:23:38] yes there it is :) [15:23:39] *JeLuF goes nuts. Eclipse is sometimes claiming to save the file, but it's not changed on the server. [15:23:46] lool [15:23:49] thanks a lot ^^ [15:24:18] that's the second bug that I handled today that was reported as "doesn't work". Perhaps I should check the others, too [15:24:33] 03(mod) Extend context link ("pipe trick") syntax to pages with commas in title - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6826 +comment (10brion) [15:24:45] 03(mod) Namespace alias from Wikinews: to Wikinotizie: on Italian Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10446 (10jeluf) [15:25:13] :) well, I'll leave now. keep up the good work! [15:27:49] JeLuF: Waaah. Eclipse. Isn't this this moster that everybody tells to save so much time because it does loads of work? [15:27:54] Does anyone know how to turn off hard redirects on wikis? [15:28:42] PunkRock: I've been told so. It has a built-in SFTP client and is doing UTF-8 quite well. I prefer vim via ssh, but that sucks at UTF-8 [15:29:13] Eclipse reminds me of emacs... [15:29:30] JeLuF: sorry to bother again, but could you quickly explain me the difference betwen the email notification extension and the built-in feature? [15:29:38] <3 eclipse [15:29:46] yeah. i think using eclipse is quite the same as commiting suicide. it doesn't hurt, but it's a highway to nowhere. [15:30:38] erm. [15:30:49] at least it doesn't hurt afterwards. hehe [15:30:52] 03catrope * r26315 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php): (bug 11534) rvendid doesn't work [15:31:09] Waldir: em, no. [15:32:24] Waldir: From the extension description on mw.org: "Note: This documentation of the extension has not been maintained since March 2006. Most of the features it includes have been added to MediaWiki itself;" [15:33:02] Hi brion-office :) Do you know how to turn off hard redirects on wikis? [15:33:18] hard redirects? [15:33:55] instead of redirecting from simple.wp to en.wp pages, it shows as if redirect=no [15:34:23] (as an example, its everywhere on WMF wikis) [15:35:09] uh, fiddle w/ some options i guess [15:35:19] or turn off the iw_local fields [15:35:41] k, thanks :) [15:35:44] JeLuF: ok, thanks :) [15:37:16] 03brion * r26316 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Auto-add testRunner.sql without breaking if run from outside the maintenance directory [15:41:39] is there a way to turn off the encoding of special characters in the url? (version 1.10.0) [15:42:14] I need to make a link to a page (Special:Colleagues?action=searchcolleague) but it turns it into something like: Special:Colleagues%3Faction%3Dsearchcolleagues [15:44:53] /w/w 26 [15:48:14] 03(mod) Fetching revision history fails without error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 (10roan.kattouw) [15:50:54] brion-office: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%80%AA%E2%80%AB%E2%80%AC%E2%80%AD%E2%80%AE%E2%80%AA%E2%80%AB%E2%80%AC%E2%80%AD%E2%80%AA%E2%80%AB%E2%80%AC%E2%80%AD%E2%80%AE%E2%80%AA%E2%80%AB%E2%80%AC%E2%80%AD%E2%80%AE&action=edit [15:51:02] I dare you to enter text and save ;) [15:51:59] *brion-office stabs VoiceOfAll with a copy of the unicode standard [15:52:08] 03(mod) Fetching revision history fails without error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:54:51] brion-office: come on, save it. [15:55:00] are you chicken? :D [15:55:07] Come to the dark side... [15:55:27] we have cookies ;-) [15:57:05] ugh, here's some bad UI [15:57:09] Question - KDE Help Center [15:57:10] A search index does not yet exist. Do you want to create the index now? [15:57:24] WHY WOULD IT ASK ME THIS? [15:57:36] it wants you to huff it ;) [15:57:38] oh god it's like windows 3.1 all over again [15:57:41] fuck this kde shit [15:57:47] hahaha [15:57:48] because some n00b wrote it, brion? :D [15:58:34] brion: because creating the index takes ages [15:59:38] then they should ship with something that actually works [16:00:01] it would take ages whatever it used.. theres a lot of help [16:00:32] ^^ river defending open source here. milestone. [16:01:12] i like kde ;P [16:01:20] that's what build-time is for [16:03:02] anyway it doesn't seem to work that i can tell [16:03:11] 03(mod) pt.wikipedia.org : bold print for changes in watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11492 (10lijealso) [16:08:47] http://leuksman.com/log/2007/10/02/kde-wtf/ [16:09:45] 03(mod) Special:AddData doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11535 (10yaron57) [16:09:50] i think it secretly depends on htdig or something [16:11:51] is there a way to turn off the encoding of special characters in the url? (version 1.10.0) [16:12:19] AphelionZ: what you probably want to do is either use the post-slash parameter on your special page extension, or use a full URL to it [16:12:27] eg, [[Special:Foobar/blah]] [16:12:41] or [{{fullurl:Special:Foobar|foo=bar}} [16:13:01] let me try the fullurl thing.. [16:14:07] to complicate things im editing Mediawiki:Sidebar [16:14:23] well, sidebar lets you have urls just fine [16:14:27] my entry currently looks like - ** {{fullurl:Special:Colleagues|action=searchcolleague}}|Colleague Cen [16:14:43] (keep in mind that the string keys in the sidebar are *NOT RAW LINKS*, they are message keys) [16:14:46] I have successfullt installed mediawiki, got two problems if ise the url with www. the site does not load and I cannt change the logo [16:14:55] (so your sidebar entry should be something like * foobar-url|foobar-text) [16:15:10] (then MediaWiki:Foobar-url would contain http://blah/blah) [16:15:26] (or {{fullurl:Special:Foobar|blah}} should work there) [16:15:41] i just did ** {{fullurl:Special:Colleagues|action=searchcolleague}}|Colleague Center [16:15:52] and the link that's rendered as INVALID-TITLE [16:17:23] right, that don't work [16:17:26] see my above note :) [16:17:49] haha im confused slightly [16:18:03] if anyone is willing to help a newbie please pm me [16:18:09] ** {{fullurl:Special:Colleagues}}|Colleague Center [16:18:15] ^ that works ^ [16:18:54] now just need to add the action=searchcolleagues [16:20:02] AphelionZ: to do that you have to use the message pages as i noted above [16:20:25] ok.. [16:22:09] got it! thanks brion-office [16:22:47] Is there a beginners channel for mediawiki] [16:22:56] no [16:23:13] thats me stupt then [16:23:16] bigcol, not that I know of [16:23:27] Yet, you can ask here, perhaps [16:24:07] bigcol: no idea about the www., maybe thats to do with your site provider [16:24:28] Hojat I need help post installation, I do not know php, so I am stuck, I have tried to change the logo but cannot. and have a problem with my site, if i put www before the url it doesnt load [16:25:11] these are many problems! [16:25:16] Let's fix them one by one [16:25:32] Can i see your website? [16:26:08] all right [16:26:33] would you mind if we continue on PM, and keep this channel less crowded? [16:38:03] brion-office: can you scap r26315 ? [16:38:36] not until i've confirmed all is well [16:40:06] ok, i just have to fix my linux test box still :P :) [16:41:03] scappin [16:42:55] hehe [16:43:48] How can I programatically create (and populate with specified content) several new pages at once? [16:44:33] nuck: try pywikipediabot [16:44:42] Extension:CreateArticle sends you to the edit page, but I want to create pages "behind the scenes" and redirect to a "what just happened" page [16:45:55] There must be a php API to do it? [16:47:15] no [16:47:34] Can I change default language of installed mediawiki without worry? [16:47:50] 03brion * r26317 10/trunk/tools/planet/pt/config.ini: doesn't seem to like bom? [16:48:08] Li-sung: yes [16:50:31] 03brion * r26318 10/trunk/tools/planet/pt/config.ini: doesn'tseem to like locale setting either [16:50:57] 03(WONTFIX) Fix MIME type for Special:Export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11531 +comment (10vasilvv) [16:50:58] brion-office: seems he didn't fix it at all though [16:51:07] :P [16:51:54] now it seems rvendid does the same as rvstartid [16:52:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Moravian%20Cemetery,%20Staten%20Island&rvendid=153013723 [16:54:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Moravian%20Cemetery,%20Staten%20Island&rvstartid=153013723 [16:54:28] imho the 'start' and 'end' are backwards ;) [16:54:33] but maybe it's supposed to be that way? [16:54:34] hehe [16:54:37] I dont know [16:54:44] heyyy iut's kinda lunchtime [16:55:00] I though "start" was where to start from, and "end" was where to end [16:55:05] but maybe I'm wrong [16:57:03] 03(FIXED) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:57:31] AzaTht: well it seems to do that, but it's doing a descending sort [16:57:35] so... [16:57:36] :D [16:58:56] rvstartid - from which revision id to start enumeration (enum) [16:58:56] rvendid - stop revision enumeration on this revid (enum) [17:02:19] bigcol I'm back [17:06:38] 03(mod) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 (10azatoth) [17:06:58] hey, wikibugs missed the previous one [17:07:57] 03(FIXED) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [17:08:17] WTF [17:08:27] 03(NEW) Special:Import should have a hook - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11537 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (rv1971) [17:08:46] wikibugs are totally fnucked [17:09:01] [18:57:03] (FIXED) rvendid doesn't work - http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 +comment (roan.kattouw) [17:09:05] [19:07:56] (FIXED) rvendid doesn't work - http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 +comment (roan.kattouw) [17:09:13] that's the same [17:09:41] Does anyone have any experience with getting svn+ssh working on windows? I managed to get it to find plink and my private key, but when I run "svn ls svn+ssh://tango@svn.wikimedia.org/..." it just hangs. Doesn't even ask for my passphrase (which I have set up - if I run plink directly, it asks for it). Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? [17:10:11] *AzaTht stays of the the discussion [17:18:25] no-one? [17:19:42] *Hojjat is reading [17:20:11] 03(NEW) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (seventowers) [17:20:19] Tango42, I spent some time with that problem too.. finally, I decided to use TortoiseSVN instead [17:21:13] Hojjat, I'd rather not have to do that... I prefer using the command line - I know what's going on that way. [17:21:59] Tango42, you'll still know what's going on with tortoise. Also, you can have them both, and use Tortoise for commits only [17:22:12] ... [17:22:24] I tried a lot, but in the end, I couldn't make the command line tool work in windows [17:22:36] The linux SSH works like a clock tho! [17:23:53] 14(INVALID) AutoLoader.php still references includes/Image.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11536 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:30:32] Hojjat: I fixed it!!! [17:30:40] Tango42, how? [17:30:49] Hojjat, I hate my clock. :( [17:30:51] i downloaded pageant.exe, ran it, gave it the passphrase the the key, and now it works! [17:31:07] Simetrical|away: Shall I buy you one then? [17:31:20] Tango42, dunno. I tried it that way, and it didn't work [17:31:22] let me check now [17:31:36] Tango42, why Plink? I used Pageant for my . . . oh, right. [17:32:02] Although I used TortoiseSVN too. Now I use command-line because there seems to be no good TortoiseSVN equivalent for Linux. [17:32:26] Simetrical|away: yes, no GIU svn tool in Linux :( [17:32:37] I tried getting linux to work, but it doesn't like my hardware. In the end, I gave up trying to fix it. Kept taking one step forward and two backwards... [17:33:48] Tango42, with pageant, it isn't working for me [17:34:34] Hojjat: I don't know then. I've done about a dozen things to get it to work - it could be any one of them that you need to do... [17:35:00] O_O [17:35:12] Tango42, i'd be grateful to know all of them! [17:35:14] ;) [17:35:43] Hojjat, there are GUI SVN tools in Linux, but as far as I can tell they all suck. [17:35:44] hi Pathoschild [17:35:53] Hojjat: Well, I put the plink details in the svn config file, rather than any of the hundred other methods I've seem suggested [17:36:00] Simetrical|away: :( [17:36:18] Tango42: where is the svn config file? [17:36:25] documents and settings [17:36:51] Well, command line is fine for me, until I do something like have --message "Added new config option $wgOrangutanProduction for some reason" and bash helpfully deletes the variable name with no warning. [17:36:53] Hey Hojjat. [17:37:24] C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Subversion [17:37:30] Tango42, i found this there [17:37:38] what did you actually add there? [17:37:59] 03(ASSIGNED) Special:AddData doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11535 04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [17:38:25] in the config file (inside that folder), is a line "ssh=" you need to put the path to plink after the equals [17:39:02] can you paste yours here? [17:39:32] Hojjat: ssh = c:\\program files\\putty\\plink.exe -2 -i c:\\keys\\id_dsa.ppk [17:39:49] Tango24, great [17:39:52] the double slashes are required, as it needs to be escaped. [17:40:05] that'd do it [17:40:21] the -2 forces it to use ssh2, but I don't know if that part was really required... it didn't help when I did it. [17:41:38] Tango42, it worked! [17:41:41] Thanks a lot [17:41:44] :-) [17:42:12] Tango42, please update the Commit related pages on MediaWiki.org, so the credits go for yourself [17:42:41] i'd have to work out which things that I did were actually required before I could do that... [17:43:07] i might look into it further later tonight [17:43:09] Tango42, I'll tell you: [17:43:23] putty is needed, and the change you just described [17:43:30] that's all. Because that's all I have now! [17:43:42] you have it working without pageant? [17:44:09] argg, the latest spammer wave doesnt even spam URLs anymore.. only words like "varrovar","sitricta" etc etc.. they seem completely random. So with the IP being random, the content they spam being random and the pages they target being random, there seems nothing left to block them, but i dont wanna give up and still let IPs edit... hrmm.. i guess i want the captcha that Microsoft developed then, telling cats from cats and dogs pictures :p [17:45:06] 03tango * r26319 10/USERINFO/tango: Adding my userinfo [17:45:12] i think their tactic is to spam those random words as markings , and then check later if they got removed. This way they test if a wiki is active, and if it isnt they come back with full force... i guess [17:45:17] Can someone please help me... I think we have an old version Wiki... I am trying to put {{ref|areference}} in my document... but it does not work... since I keep getting Template:Ref and new tag does not work either... [17:45:20] Tango42, I counted pageant as part of putty [17:45:33] admins are an ass and I cant figure out what version this stuff is or what extensions it includes, etc. [17:45:50] Aphorise: open the page name Special:Version [17:45:53] hello [17:46:12] mutante I did... it doesnt show anything other than version... and some php detail... .nothing about avalible extensions, etc. [17:46:12] Hojjat: Ok, so plink and pageant specifically are needed. And puttygen, I guess. [17:46:32] puttygen is described elsewhere (where to create a key) [17:46:43] just update that part relating to "connecting" to svn+ssh on windows [17:47:08] and say, "run pageant and add your key", "make sure you've changed config file accordingly" and "voila!" [17:47:23] So any1 else have any ideas?.... I just need to figure out what ref tag / system our version of wiki is using and just get my docs in order. [17:50:06] Aphorise: {{ref}} would be a template you have to create, comes from the cite extension iirc - which you have to install separately [17:50:21] Aphorise: then the extensions dont use the "$wgExtensionCredits['parserhook'][] " to tell Special:Version about them.. hrmm.. [17:50:40] Tango42, and "thank you" again, because you answered one question of my lifetime! [17:50:46] mutante: or ITS NOT THERE :) [17:51:07] Hojjat - glad I could help! [17:51:53] mutante well it creates a link for a blank document... so it must be taking some effect no? [17:52:25] Aphorise: {{kfhsldkjfsdlkf}} will do the same. it's template syntax. if the template doesn't exist, it will link to the blank page [17:52:30] just like "red" links [17:52:39] Aphorise: does the page Template:Ref have content? [17:52:55] No it doesnt blank... as Duesentrieb described. [17:53:14] Aphorise: that's because you have not created it... then you can not use it... [17:53:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Ref&action=edit [17:53:55] Aphorise: and if you want to use reference section at the bottom, you need to have the cite extension (which provides the tag which you can then use in Template:ref which you can then use as {{ref|foo}}) [17:54:29] hallo mattis^ [17:55:06] I dont have access to extension details, etc... I think I will use simple link... this seem to be over complex. [17:55:56] *shrug* [17:56:01] hmm, on en.wp in Template:Ref they dont seem to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ref/doc [17:56:09] if you want to use an extension, you have to install it [17:56:11] that's all [17:56:14] "Using ref/note tags is not the only way to do footnotes. Some people prefer to use Cite.php. Cite.php has many advantages, but is not mandatory. You can use the Ref converter to replace ref/note tags with the newer Cite.php style" [17:56:50] mutante: fun :) [17:57:01] mutante, you can't really use inside templates. [17:57:04] mutante: I didn't read all what you said. But if the q is, to have footnotes without using , yes it is possible [17:57:32] quick question.... i just installed ImageMagick on my Suse box and was getting a shared library error - so I exported the path in /etc/profile - but now mediawiki is giving me the same error when creating a thumbnail.. [17:57:43] any ideas? [17:58:23] Hojjat: i just wanted to find the right template content for Aphorise ,and looked at Template:Ref at en.wp, then i read the sentence above and it sounded like an alternative for him [17:58:59] and it sounded like "ref OR Cite" while Duesentrieb said above that ref relies on Cite.. confused now myself [17:59:22] relies on Cite. But Template:Ref is different from [17:59:29] aha, i see [17:59:33] mutante: yes i didn't bother to check :) [18:02:10] Tango42, oh and welcome aboard! [18:07:46] 03(NEW) DISPLAYTITLE converts underscores to spaces. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11540 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [18:07:56] 04(REOPENED) Revert Compressold.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9865 +comment (10asmarin) [18:10:17] nevermind, got it (had to restart apache) [18:10:45] 03(FIXED) rvendid doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11534 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [18:11:47] 03brion * r26320 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php SpecialMergeAccount.php): [18:11:47] Fix for unattached user's view of Special:MergeAccount when account is partially merged. [18:11:47] Patch by RotemLiss, from http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:Rotemliss/CentralAuth#1 [18:18:51] 03brion * r26321 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialMergeAccount.php: [18:18:51] Further security fix -- enforce assertions about attached state on the form submission handlers, not just on showing the form. [18:18:51] Ensures that unattached users have to put in the global pass, not their own pass, to attach. :) [18:19:27] 14(DUP) Add new syntax for suffixed wiki links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11530 +comment (10brion) [18:19:54] wikibugs: that was like a billion years ago o_O [18:20:46] Hi! [18:20:50] I have got a question [18:21:02] i installed mediawiki and wanted to change my logo [18:21:29] but i do not have $wgLogo in my localsettings.php [18:21:34] so whats wrong with that? [18:21:36] tugori: read FAQ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [18:21:45] tugori, add it, then. [18:21:45] if something isn't in LocalSettings.php...then define it [18:22:02] where do i have to insert it? i tried but the logo did not appear [18:22:06] e.g. $wgLogo = "/images/b/bc/Wiki.png" or so [18:22:56] where? [18:22:58] does it matter? [18:23:42] well, generally at the bottom of the file, but after the require_once ("includes/DefaultSettings.php"); call in any case [18:24:51] ok [18:24:59] i will just take a completely red picture for trying [18:26:42] it does not show [18:26:43] http://www.magic-mugen.de/mugenpedia [18:26:50] or do i have wrong writing rights on it? [18:26:57] i set it to 640 [18:27:00] is it right? [18:27:33] or need it be 644 [18:27:35] read for all? [18:27:57] sry it is not written at all what setting i have to do. just change it from 777 to another after the install :-/ [18:30:26] ? [18:31:29] hy @ll [18:31:47] Jack? [18:32:08] i have an prob with my wiki [18:32:44] i don't know what happens [18:33:30] but now i get only these error message http://de.wiki.mldonkey.org [18:34:00] 03(mod) blacklist extension handling is broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11142 +comment (10brion) [18:34:52] schlumpf: there's a problem with your server at a low level [18:35:01] filesystem might be damaged, or mysql configuration [18:35:13] do you run the server yourself or is it hosted by some company? [18:35:35] brion_office: its an hosted sever [18:35:56] i have only access via an webinterface [18:36:06] can someone help me with my question? [18:36:09] some lines above [18:36:12] i would be glad :-) [18:36:22] brion-office: ok, the logic of the problem is that start and end is relative to dir [18:36:38] it's defined by the enumeration, not the reality [18:36:57] schlumpf: you'll have to contact your hosting provider and let them know you have a database problem [18:37:29] looks like you've got innodb set up for multiple tablespaces (innodb_file_per_table) [18:37:35] and the file's missing or damaged [18:37:35] brion-office: the whole server was hacked some weeks ago, is it possible that the provider disabled some php functions? [18:37:51] schlumpf: possible but it's not a php problem, it's a mysql problem [18:38:12] AzaTht: logical in its way [18:38:28] brion-office: true, but it's not really what people expect [18:38:35] brion_office: ok thanks for your quick help i will try that [18:38:53] sry, i mean brion-office ;) [18:39:20] 03evan * r26322 10/trunk/extensions/SpecialForm/SpecialForm.i18n.php: Add French translation text. [18:39:29] schlumpf, OS error code 1: Operation not permitted [18:39:36] good luck schlumpf! [18:39:39] AzaTht: yeah :) [18:42:02] brion-office: feels it's a construct by the internal thinking of a dev(tm) [18:44:13] mutante: hello [18:44:28] brion-office: friendly reminder of bug 5678. [18:44:42] *MinuteElectron stabs wikibugs [18:45:21] on an other problem I have, inlcuding the api, I have gotten some reports of corrupted edits, and I really don't know how to search for the error, as it happens randomly [18:45:23] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_User_scripts/Scripts/Twinkle/Bugs#TW-B-0013 [18:45:32] MinuteElectron: me too [18:45:44] brion-office: wikibugs seems to be having a sleep atm [18:45:56] 'corrupted' how [18:46:37] mutante is here or not... [18:46:40] brion-office: for example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AGraphic_Lab%2FImages_to_improve&diff=161834166&oldid=161814250 [18:46:44] cary: hi [18:46:50] hi mutante :) [18:46:52] hi [18:46:54] I was told to poke you [18:46:59] about adding bn.wikisource [18:47:13] To this list: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource [18:47:15] to wikistats for the list of wikisources? [18:47:20] hold on [18:47:25] yah [18:47:35] AzaTht: so the whole page cut off? [18:47:48] half around [18:48:03] I don't know where the problem lies [18:48:22] as it happens so sporradic :( [18:48:41] me my self has never encountered it [18:48:45] AzaTht: thx, i'll put it on the list [18:48:56] if you have some other examples drop em my way and i'll see if i can get any useful info out of em [18:49:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolivia&diff=159379703&oldid=159379494 [18:49:37] mutante: thanks in advance [18:49:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Acts_of_the_Apostles&diff=158800187&oldid=158791312 [18:50:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Walt_Disney_Company&diff=next&oldid=157841952 [18:50:05] cary: you can copy now from http://s23.org/wikistats/wikisources_wiki.php [18:50:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=next&oldid=161316799 [18:50:57] mutante: got it, thanks [18:51:17] cary: Bengali is rank 48 of 54 in http://s23.org/wikistats/wikisources_html.php now [18:51:26] and they just opened [18:51:32] i hope the local language name is correct [18:52:06] Looks like it is [18:57:52] hallo mutante [18:58:48] 03(NEW) Numbered lists not numbered in Opera 9.5 alpha - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11542 trivial; low; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (minuteelectron) [18:59:26] 03(NEW) change rv{end|start}id to rv{min|max}id - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (azatoth) [19:02:58] 03brion * r26323 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [19:02:58] * AuthPlugin added strictUserAuth() method to allow per-user override [19:02:58] of the strict() authentication behavior. [19:02:58] Fixes the hole where old local passwords could still be used to log into the global account after merging. [19:02:58] Based on patch by Rotem Liss from http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9:Rotemliss/CentralAuth#2 [19:03:02] Changed function name from authenticateLocally() to strictUserAuth() and reversed return value to mesh a little better with strict() [19:09:20] AzaTht: :) [19:17:42] hi there [19:18:01] i have problem ! [19:18:20] "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to create destination directory" [19:18:42] do you know the destination directory? [19:18:46] Is this first attempt to upload? [19:18:46] no [19:18:50] yea [19:18:53] the webserver needs permissions to write to it [19:18:59] have to manually create teh directory the first time [19:19:14] i mean the user who is also running the webserver process [19:19:15] which dir ? [19:19:49] images [19:19:53] i chmod the image folder [19:20:11] i made it 777 [19:20:32] did you enable uploades in the config file? [19:20:39] yes i did [19:20:58] the file uploaded fine after 6 or 7 trys [19:21:15] so are u ok now? [19:21:18] my problem is in the thumbling i thinl [19:21:20] k [19:21:37] "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to create destination directory" [19:21:38] ppl get anoied if u spk lik dis [19:21:41] did you chmod with -R? [19:21:45] try this http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ZXS&q=site%3Amediawiki.org+%22error+creating+thumbnail%22&btnG=Search [19:21:51] ./images/thumb [19:22:20] you need to set permissions on the subdirectory seperately, unless you used chmod -R (recursive) [19:22:26] i chmod that to 777 too [19:22:36] 03(mod) Numbered lists not numbered in Opera 9.5 alpha - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11542 +comment (10wilson.jim.r) [19:22:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support#Thumbnail [19:25:35] i've tried the wiki thumbnail guide too [19:26:55] i've got this error too with it : wrning: mkdir() [function.mkdir] : permission denied ........ [19:28:30] these guys are having the same error... http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=OESF:Administrators'_noticeboard [19:32:20] no nothin yet that didnt help [19:33:23] if i put the image without any resizing every thing works fine! [19:33:47] mjkubba: make sure the directory is not protected by an ACL (SELinux) [19:33:51] when i use the resizing eg : [[Image:AUSF.png]] the problem pressent [19:33:56] anso check for safe-mode restrictions in php [19:34:35] i dont host my own server [19:34:43] in my own* [19:36:18] well, if you can chmod, you shoudl also be able to check the SCL [19:36:31] and you can also look for safe-mode stuff in phpinfo [19:36:40] *ACL [19:37:01] i had chmod all the image folder to 777 [19:39:26] mjkubba: but if there is a acl in place, traditional file permissions have no effect. i don't know if it's the problem. but it is one possible cause. [19:40:17] ok how can i do that ? all i have is cpanel !? [19:40:37] i have no idea. [19:40:39] now i solved that image problem [19:40:59] i must chmod every file/directory [19:41:06] the refresh [19:41:13] duh! [19:41:24] but should i do that like for every image i have to upload [19:41:49] ask your hosting service about it [19:42:00] mediawiki should be able to do it on its won [19:42:05] and it does so normally [19:42:18] if that doesn't work, something is preventing it. [19:42:46] ok i'll ask my hosting admins [19:42:50] thanks any way [19:43:22] but its not helpful if i had to do that for every new imafe [19:43:32] image* [19:43:52] nope, it would suck [19:43:59] but there's nothing mediawiki can do about it [19:44:09] well, actually, you can tell it to put all files into the same dir [19:44:30] you'd have to reupload all files you already have though. and shouldn't upload more than about 1000 [19:45:01] i'll see about that [19:45:02] $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; would do that [19:47:33] hi [19:47:49] can you tell me how i change my logo size from 135 square to 135 x 155 px? [19:48:12] dont know what i have to change in my localsettings.php [19:51:22] am not an expert but i think you should do that by external application like photoshop or gimp [19:51:46] no my picture is at that size [19:51:57] but i think i need to define the value in the localsettings.php [19:53:16] $wgLogo = "http://www.yoursite/imageURL"; [19:53:34] no [19:53:36] the size [19:53:42] because standard ist 135 square [19:54:25] and now i want to set it to 135x155 [19:54:43] my image is 96x100 [19:54:54] i guess it takes the image shape ?!? [19:55:24] i dont know [19:55:27] i dont think so [19:55:29] ^^ [19:55:35] http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1151 [19:56:17] after your image upload complete you should purge the cache => Main_Page&action=purge [19:56:24] tugori: what happens, doesnt show at all or is stretched? [20:00:57] in the user table, what is user_token? [20:06:17] nothing i have not uploaded the version yet [20:06:19] i will do it [20:06:22] lets see what happens [20:07:05] VoiceOfAll: You about? [20:07:11] does mediawiki have a max page size/number of lines? [20:07:15] no [20:07:39] *amidaniel scratches VoA's eyes out [20:08:11] MAN IT ROCKS [20:08:12] http://magic-mugen.de/mugenpedia [20:08:14] VoiceOfAll: Would you mind if I fork your mergehistory/revdeleted jazz off elsewhere on my server and keep the current testwiki just for FlaggedRevs/quality stuff? [20:08:28] http://magic-mugen.de/mugenpedia [20:08:30] :D:D:D:D::D: [20:08:43] You'll still have full access to both -- but the mergehistory and whatnot is giving me headaches :) [20:10:28] amidaniel: can you fork the installations? [20:11:03] VoiceOfAll: I haven't looked at them too closely, but I presume so -- have you made a lot of schema changes? [20:12:42] That or I'll simply set up another install for current trunk + quality [20:12:46] n/sb end [20:13:00] oops! :) [20:15:13] you could copy the files and have localsettings reference the same db and stuff [20:15:58] I could -- I worry about that causing even *more* headaches though :) [20:17:54] 03(mod) change rv{end|start}id to rv{min|max}id - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:22:06] VoiceOfAll: http://amidaniel.com/voicewiki [20:33:00] Yeah, no go -- http://amidaniel.com/testwiki/ [20:35:59] Back to where we were now :) [20:36:02] Hey amidaniel [20:36:06] Like that skin [20:36:13] I'm gonna think up something though -- your mergehistory is getting on my nerves ;) [20:36:18] TheFearow: What skin? [20:36:25] On that wiki you just posted a link to [20:36:33] Blaaaaaaaaah [20:36:35] I click all links that are posted in IRC out of curiosity [20:36:37] *amidaniel stabs VoiceOfAll [20:38:01] VoiceOfAll: Alright, let me figure out how to fork these elegantly. I'll let you know what the new config is by tonight. [20:42:44] *jimbojw tosses a tubgirl link towards TheFearow [20:43:01] I've fallen for that so many times :p [20:43:17] Now I have a checksum blocker on all those shock images [20:43:42] too bad that won't stop you from getting rick rolled [20:51:22] hey i got a question about mediawiki [20:51:48] Well, why don't you ask it [20:52:06] Would you say that mediawiki is best for media related things as opposed to transfering knowledge? [20:52:26] I wouldn't [20:53:06] then would you say twiki or mediawiki [20:53:06] The support for various types of media is rather weak, and it's certainly focused around text [20:53:10] Define "media-related things" [20:53:27] Well, I'd say mediawiki, since that's what it's called. [20:53:37] *ST47 is reminded that House is on tonight [20:53:43] o.o [20:53:44] well, for the company i work for, documenting process and how to do things like setup servers, configure things server settings [20:53:45] lol St47 [20:54:24] a location new hires can go to get all the forms to the government, find out how phones work, the benefits [20:55:19] so would you guys say twiki or mediawiki or something else? [20:55:21] Well, plenty of people use wikis for documentation [20:55:29] "svn: Can't create directory '/svnroot/mediawiki/db/transactions/26323-1.txn': Permission denied" - when attempting to commit a patch to an extension. Any ideas? [20:55:51] Tango42: I don't think it's supposed to say that. [20:56:03] ST47: What would I do without you? [20:56:07] Tango42: Annoy the serveradmins in -tech [20:56:13] ;) [20:56:15] They stuffed up permissions somewhere :) [20:56:29] TheFearow: nah, it isn't wikimedia's problem [20:56:37] it's the SVN server's owner's problem [20:56:38] TheFearow: You mean brion created my account wrong? [20:56:49] hm? [20:56:54] granted, the two are one and the same, however there is a distinction [20:57:04] No, a dev changed the permissions on the SVN server [20:57:05] brion-office: Tango42 broke subversion [20:57:08] Or your SVN client is stuffed up [20:57:08] bah, sec [20:57:19] yeah, blame it on me, why don't you? [20:57:25] Tango42: ;) [20:57:32] *ST47 wonders who Tango42 is [20:57:34] svn blame ;) [20:57:36] lol [20:57:39] *ST47 wonders if Tango42 is TangoTango [20:57:45] nope, AFAIK [20:57:45] I running on windows, of course my SVN client is stuffed up [20:57:46] I would assume so [20:57:51] *ST47 sees [20:57:56] Tango42: can you confirm this is a svn+ssh checkout, not http? [20:57:58] No, Tango42 is Tango. I'm a completely different person than TangoTango [20:57:59] Two people called Tango on the same project who are both developers is unlikely [20:58:07] Ahh [20:58:10] Wow, thats unlikely [20:58:12] :D [20:58:23] *Jack_Phoenix dreams of commit access... [20:58:27] *ST47 wonders if Tango42 is the guy who did SWMT stuff back a year ago [20:58:29] brion-office: Maybe not... I will check that [20:58:41] that means I need to poke a friend of mine so that he can help me with TortoiseSVN ;) [20:58:50] I don't recognise the abbrev., so probably not [20:59:11] ST47: I though Tangotango was in charge of SWMT stuff? used to be, that is [20:59:17] Jack_Phoenix: ah. [20:59:19] s/though/thought [20:59:23] Jack_Phoenix: I am confused ;( [20:59:37] Tango42 here is a new developer for MediaWiki [20:59:45] yay for Tango42! [20:59:52] en:User:Tangotango (/meta:user:Tangotango) is NOT the same person [20:59:54] Welcome to the REAL cabal! [20:59:58] brion-office: I think you're right, it's still HTTP. How does one convert? [21:00:08] Tangotango's on a wikibreak AFAIK [21:00:14] I'm [[:en:User:Tango]]. [21:00:29] *amidaniel tangos with Tango [21:00:32] An enwiki admin, dabbling in a bit of php [21:00:38] i think you can use svn ..... rebase? change? hmm i forget :D [21:00:44] i usually just make a fresh check out ;) [21:00:56] switch [21:01:00] yeah, but then I have to move the changes across... [21:01:06] switch? I'll try that [21:02:01] 03(NEW) Replace hard-wired auto/ truncated revision-summary length with a global - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11543 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (aran) [21:03:13] switch sounds right, yes [21:03:22] "svn: 'svn+ssh://tango@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki' [21:03:23] is not the same repository as [21:03:25] 'http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki'" [21:03:49] :P [21:04:00] helpful, brion, thank you... [21:04:09] well it should work [21:04:20] Try telling svn that [21:04:43] do you need to throw in a /trunk/phase3 or anything in there? [21:05:00] ah [21:05:03] I tried that the first time, got the same error message, just with a /trunk/phase3 added in [21:05:10] try svn switch --relocate [21:05:13] then the old and new URLs [21:05:18] thanks [21:05:26] *brion-office looking at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/re27.html [21:08:22] *Tango42 hits head against wall [21:08:26] "svn: Connection closed unexpectedly" [21:08:35] now, why would it do that? [21:08:49] committing sounds a lot harder than I thought it was :o [21:08:55] yeah... [21:09:03] plus you have to avoid brion's allmighty revertstick [21:09:04] commiting the userinfo file worked perfectly [21:09:25] committing real code, however, seems impossible... [21:09:55] heh [21:10:59] brion, the url you linked to says the repository shouldn't even be contacts... there shouldn't even *be* a connection to close unexpectedly... [21:11:04] *contacted [21:11:24] why can't we just use floppy disks? [21:12:49] *brion-office walks over to Tango42's house with a pile of 5.25"ers [21:13:14] lol [21:13:15] I prefer 3" myself [21:13:32] they're of sturdier stock [21:13:34] Tango42: Because every div has to airmail a huge stack of disks which cant go on a lot of modern planes [21:13:43] dev* [21:14:14] TheFearow: Take a look at [[Rhetorical Question]] ;) [21:14:48] never underestimate the bandwith of a station wagon full of mag tape [21:15:04] just don't try an play a FPS with it! [21:15:15] hee, turn-based FPS [21:15:30] First person Worms? Sign me up! [21:15:30] lesson: badwidth != latency [21:15:59] badwidth? Is that a Freudian slip? [21:16:14] *brion-office thinks it's time to leave office and search for dinner [21:16:29] brion-office: It's always time to search for dinner [21:18:59] Tango42: They have FPS turn-based worms for the XBOX :) [21:19:23] is it anywhere near as good as Armageddon? [21:19:24] TheFearow: Almost worth getting an XBOX for... [21:19:42] Yep. But they did miss out on a couple of really worthwhile weapons [21:20:15] There are still flying sheep, yes? [21:20:32] not that I could ever control the damn thing [21:20:35] The flying supersheep are extremely hard to fly, sort of like steering a falling feather with a blowtorch [21:20:49] aw, they were easy on Armageddon [21:22:44] what about banana bombs? [21:27:52] They are fun [21:35:07] Duesentrieb: That way of faking a new message bar works on monobook, chick, myskin, and simple [21:37:01] 03gmaxwell * r26324 10/trunk/tools/counter/ (counter.py display/index.php hitcounter.sql): [21:37:01] Change the collector to aggregate internally to reduce database/disk traffic. [21:37:01] This changeset introduces a dependency on pyjudy because python dicts were causing enormous memory [21:37:01] usage. [21:37:01] If the collector were recoded in C it might actually perform well enough to be useful on [21:37:02] 1:1 data, doing so wouldn't be a big task. [21:44:03] 03gmaxwell * r26325 10/trunk/tools/counter/counter.py: Brion says that the squid log docs don't exactly match the log format. [21:54:55] 03tango * r26326 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.php: Correcting r26045, references with no text which are used multiple times should still link back to each use, rather than just the last one. [21:55:11] 03siebrand * r26327 10/trunk/extensions/SpecialForm/SpecialForm.i18n.php: [21:55:11] * update texts (less encyclopedia centric, use 'page' instead of 'article') [21:55:11] * add Dutch translation from Betawiki [21:55:11] * fix indentation [21:55:17] *Tango42 hates computers [21:55:41] As far as I can tell, I typed exactly the same command as last time, but this time it worked... [22:09:49] Tango42: you must not have typed it with the right mindset [22:10:12] alxndr: You mean I wasn't thinking about a large enough sledgehammer? [22:10:27] might have been it [22:10:55] 03(mod) Fix MIME type for Special:Export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11531 (10brion) [22:15:35] 03siebrand * r26328 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (6 files): [22:15:35] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [22:15:35] * bcl, cy, is, la, nah, sdc. [22:17:18] Do we presently have anyway of stepping through a backlinks api query? [22:18:11] Not that I know of, but I dont do much API stuff [22:19:25] 03siebrand * r26329 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [22:19:25] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [22:19:25] * Fixes and additions to 3 extensions for cu, nl. [22:19:39] Ah, yes we do -- it's *gasp* undocumented though [22:19:52] Isnt that useful :) [22:19:56] 03(NEW) Allow returning to a different page after saving the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11544 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (gtisza) [22:20:12] *amidaniel goes to fix that somewhow [22:21:05] Why that lazy bum [22:21:08] *amidaniel kicks Yuri [22:21:26] 03(mod) Allow returning to a different page after saving the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11544 +comment (10fearow00) [22:21:38] Woops .. nevermind ... cancel kicking :D [22:21:40] I'm sensing you dislike undocumented features? [22:21:48] I do :) [22:21:58] do dislike or do like? [22:22:02] dislike [22:22:22] You'd love my code - I dislike commenting so my code is usually 50% undocumented features [22:22:36] Yet I must retract my kicking as it is documented "blcontinue - When more results are available, use this to continue." [22:23:03] Darn :( [22:23:10] Well, yay, but darn about the kicking :( [22:23:25] TheFearow: No, no, it's just "self documenting code", it's not undocumented at all. ;) [22:24:01] 03david * r26330 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtPages.php): Comment-level history. Same restrictions apply to the diff view as the existing diffs, but otherwise everything seems to work. Rearranged footer links. [22:25:05] Tango42: Lines with 16 embedded ifs, three fors, and a few gotos full of object calls and reflection is usually not that self documenting :p [22:25:29] Of course you can learn more from msot code than you can from documentation [22:26:19] TheFearow: When you have to read the code anyway, we call it "bad documentation". [22:27:14] Good point :p [22:28:02] Q_QUEUE.queueRequest( new QueryResultProcessor() { public void processResult(Node n) { try { lbq.put(n); } catch (InterruptedException e) { System.exit(221); } } } ); [22:28:10] How's that for some self-documenting code? :) [22:28:34] 03david * r26331 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (25 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) [22:28:34] Merged revisions 26280-26330 via svnmerge from [22:28:34] svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [22:28:34] ........ [22:28:34] r26281 | aaron | 2007-10-01 12:38:28 -0700 (Mon, 01 Oct 2007) | 13 lines [22:28:35] *Clean up deletion of revisions and remove some gaps [22:28:37] *Allow blocking of users to hide names [22:28:59] amidaniel: Its good, you can tell what it does at least [22:29:17] Indentation would make it perfectly readable [22:30:13] Anyone here know how to check if a value is in agroup of values using SQL? [22:30:37] x in (1, 2, 3) [22:30:42] I have $wgUser->mGroups and I want to check if a certain value is contained in that via a SQL query [22:30:44] Thanks! [22:30:50] I assume that works with strings to? [22:31:01] TheFearow: Why using an SQL query? O.o [22:31:05] yes. mind proper quoting [22:31:09] Why not just do in_array(... [22:31:15] Easier and more efficient [22:31:17] the db class has some helper methods for this too [22:31:26] This is an extension designed for big wikis [22:31:30] <[1]Spearhead> Does anybody know how to get the RSS feed from /index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss in a stand-alone RSS reader if access to the wiki is restricted only to logged in users? [22:31:33] Hrm .. alright [22:31:45] I was about to ask, how would I do that using $dbr->select [22:32:01] The mGroups is already going to be loaded from the db though -- I'd think it would be easier / more efficient just to use the already loaded values [22:32:06] amidaniel: uh, in_array? for "find all users that are in one of those groups" or some such? that would be a bit inefficient [22:32:28] I'll explain - I have a report table and each has a forgroup entry [22:32:28] Duesentrieb: Of course -- I thought he was just checking the current user? ($wgUser) [22:32:35] I want to find only the reports for groups this user is in [22:33:55] amidaniel: well, my example was kind of orthogonal from what he's doing - using the groups of the current user to find... well, whatever. something that is in any of those groups [22:34:02] TheFearow: "reports"? [22:34:28] Its a method for flagging pages/users for admin/crat/anyothergroup review [22:34:59] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Matt/AdminAlert is the description page [22:35:43] Is SQL == or =? [22:35:52] = [22:36:02] :) I hate changing between languages/etc that use different [22:36:17] Try VHDL some time -- that'll really confuse the hell outta you :D [22:36:50] LOLCODE ;) [22:37:14] 03(NEW) Spam blacklist broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11545 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; (mathel.wiki) [22:37:19] is it possible to edit the css files ie monobook.css and mediawiki.css from within mediawiki? [22:38:13] common.css i meant [22:38:23] claron`: Yes, the page MediaWiki:Common.css [22:38:32] You can add new CSS rules and make them override existing ones [22:38:38] ciaron`: and MediaWiki:monobook.css respectively [22:39:08] i don't seem to have an edit button, does it have to be an admin user? [22:39:09] don't forget to do a hard relaod to see the effect [22:39:22] ciaron`: yes, you have to be admin [22:39:33] Yeah, admin only as it can be a security risk [22:39:36] righty [22:39:40] cheers for the info :) [22:40:00] ciaron`: you can also have a personal css: User:ciaron/common.css [22:40:05] good for testing stuff, too [22:40:10] hi all - im thinking of installing mediawiki is now a good stable time, or will there be some more goodies in the next version? [22:40:28] melvster: there are always more goodies in the next version [22:40:56] well i got a bunch of stuff to do, does anyone know when it's scheduled for , or is that not a question that should be asked? [22:41:07] i can install it now or i can wait a bit [22:41:10] The next version is threatening to be quite a departure from the current though :) [22:41:11] melvster: it's like buying a computer. wait another month, and you get a faster box, for less money... but you are stuck with the old box for another month [22:41:15] What with VoA's stuff and all [22:41:44] melvster: It'll probably be a while before the next release though, so now's probably as good a time as any [22:41:50] what's new in the next v - sorry for the n00b question if there's a blog i can read, just let me know [22:41:55] melvster: install now, upgrade when the next version comes out. upgrading is generally seamless [22:41:59] ok will add it now [22:42:34] great, so what is going to be in the next version, i run about 4 wikis right now, and the current version seems great, have quite a few extensions too and DPL [22:42:48] melvster: Certainly not set in stone at present, but likely a complete reform of deletion/undeletion and history merging, rev_deleted, and all sorts of other goodies [22:43:02] oh great [22:43:17] that's prolly one of the features in the current wiki that im less fond off [22:43:41] 03robchurch * r26332 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.php: Spacing [22:43:55] melvster: release notes (so far) for 1.12 are here: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?revision=26323&view=markup [22:44:01] thx! [22:46:03] looks good [22:46:09] when was 1.11 released? [22:46:42] a month ago or so [22:46:47] ah ok [22:46:53] i think i run it in one instance [22:46:57] will be 2 now :) [22:46:58] releases are quarterly, in theory [22:47:07] thx, that's good to know [22:47:13] 1.11 took more than 4 months, i think [22:47:44] could be a great xmas pressie then! [22:49:50] brion would make a good santa, i guess [22:54:05] lol [22:54:55] great, 1.11 was so easy to install [22:55:04] dont think i even needed to change permissions this time [22:55:16] Heh [22:55:17] except 644 for LocalSettings.php at the end [22:55:44] I usually dont even bother with that step, but I dont use shared hosting so its not so much of an issue [22:55:52] lol [22:56:04] but surely that makes you even more vulnerable? [22:56:29] if someone compromised your box, there's fewer people to notice [22:57:21] i guess it's low risk in any case [22:57:40] Good point, but my site has a decent technical staff. We run a complex system so have about 3/4 of us :) [22:57:56] question: if i have subdomains going to the same place e.g. en.wiki.com de.wiki.com how do i serve up different content based on the first prefix? [22:58:30] You could make LocalSettings change the db table prefix or db name depending on the host, I think you can get it from $_REQUEST [22:59:00] interesting [23:00:27] is that how wikipedia works? [23:00:44] thought it would be nice to have SOME shared pages accross all domains... [23:00:59] 03(NEW) Provide a link to the help page from redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11546 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (le.korrigan) [23:05:51] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 +comment (10matthew.britton) [23:07:46] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 +comment (10cbrown1023) [23:08:24] melvster: You can set up other more advanced things if you really want to dig into the code, but its not really worth it. Easier to copy across pages :p [23:08:46] id like to get into the code actually, if it means getting a good solution [23:08:52] i may have dozens of sites [23:09:10] id like something i could vaugely control [23:09:23] if i have to work to set it up once, i gain the benefit for every other site [23:10:09] melvster: there's on option to allow transwiki-transclusion (like templates from other wikis) [23:10:16] 03rainman * r26333 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (65 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed) [23:10:16] Experimental: [23:10:16] * extract context for each link and index it [23:10:16] * context retrieval uses: [23:10:16] - StringMap for efficient hashmap serialization [23:10:17] - ObjectCache a simple FIFO cache for caching context fields [23:10:19] * experiment with various scoring schemes, use related as boost for [23:10:39] melvster: wiki farming is indeed done by putting checks based on domain/path into localsettings. wikimedia has quite a complex setup [23:10:59] melvster: but there's also an extension called Farmer that supposedly makes it easy to set it up [23:11:09] thanks! is wiki farming frowned upon? [23:12:11] how do I get the index.php out of the url? [23:12:19] melvster: no, why should it? [23:12:34] melvster: it's your wiki, your box, your bandwidth... [23:12:37] dunno just thought it's an easy way to make a link farm, maybe google blacklist you or something [23:12:56] there are *much* easier ways to make a link farm [23:13:04] (some of which involve a wikipedia dump) [23:13:17] melvster: just because it has "farm" in the name doesn't make it evil :) [23:13:27] ok thanks :) [23:13:29] but you can also call it a "wiki family" if you like [23:14:18] Dodeca: See this page: [23:14:20] !simpleurl [23:14:20] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [23:15:03] thanks [23:15:33] 03brion * r26334 10/branches/REL1_11/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: bug 11536 -- harmless dupe of old class reference [23:15:48] 03(mod) AutoLoader.php still references includes/Image.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11536 +comment (10brion) [23:15:51] 03(FIXED) Lucene search 2 uses GNU-specific cp options when snapshotting indexes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11103 +comment (10rainman) [23:18:17] 03(mod) Replace hard-wired auto/ truncated revision-summary length with a global - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11543 (10brion) [23:23:13] aloha folks, does this LocalSettings entry still enable subpages for the entire namespace? $wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array_fill(0, 200, true); [23:24:13] 03(NEW) Use only ASCII characters in email confirmation links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11547 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (gtisza) [23:28:52] jeffmcneill: Dont think so. Just put in every namespace ID [23:29:20] jeffmcneill: you would probably want array_keys around that... [23:32:21] transwiki transclusion sounds like something out of star trek :) [23:34:14] hi [23:34:18] how to install mediawiki at ubuntu? [23:34:25] melvster: it's part of the flux compensator [23:34:33] :) [23:34:56] WonYong: same as everywhere: lownload, unpack in a web dir, open respective page in browser [23:35:07] WonYong: or use the (old & strange) ubuntu package [23:35:10] Deusentrieb, wouldn't array_fill do that for me? (http://es.php.net/array_fill) [23:35:12] I use ubuntu 7.10 beta I want to install latest mediawiki [23:35:42] No ubuntu package [23:35:53] jeffmcneill: array, fill gives you an array like this: { 0 => true, 1 => true, ... }. But you want { 0, 1, 2...} [23:35:58] WonYong you have SVN? [23:35:58] install via SVN [23:36:03] SVN install is a breeze [23:36:07] yes [23:36:23] !svn [23:36:23] Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information. [23:36:26] but I update it, but how to setup? [23:36:43] WonYong: open it in your browser .follow the instructions. [23:37:06] Time for bed - goodnight, all! [23:37:12] su;cd /var/www;svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/phase3 wiki [23:37:45] sudo chmod a+w config [23:40:43] 03(mod) Allow returning to a different page after saving the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11544 (10gtisza) [23:43:14] 03(mod) Spam blacklist broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11545 15enhancement->normal (10mathel.wiki) [23:44:44] Duesentrieb, thank you