>\n$1". [20:10:00] <arvernes> Trying another template, which seems very simple, a "clear" function. I found that, and tried it on my wiki : <div style="clear:{{{1|both}}};" /> but instead of a blank I get that : <div style="clear:both;" /> [20:10:15] <Pathoschild> Waldir: With a single-line mode pattern. [20:10:47] <Waldir> hum, I'll try [20:11:57] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Link? [20:13:06] <arvernes> because of utf-8 pb ;-) this is the general link, then once there, that's "modÃ¨le: Clr" (line 15) [20:13:16] <arvernes> http://www.arvernes.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Uncategorizedtemplates [20:13:54] <Waldir> Pathoschild: why <<title>> instead of %%title%%? [20:14:27] <Pathoschild> Waldir: No, <<%%title%%>>. That lets you easily parse it after, because nothing else will be surrounded by <<>> (so you don't accidentally parse something else on the page). [20:15:01] <Pathoschild> Waldir: <div> isn't self-closing; try <div style="clear:both;"></div> instead of <div... />, [20:15:04] <Pathoschild> ... [20:15:13] <Pathoschild> arvernes: <div> isn't self-closing; try <div style="clear:both;"></div> instead of <div... />, [20:15:19] <Waldir> lol [20:15:22] <Pathoschild> :) [20:17:33] <arvernes> Pathoschild: great, that's work. Thank you. [20:17:34] <Waldir> Pathoschild: almost working, except the replace doesnt seem to recognise the \n [20:17:42] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Welcome. [20:17:50] <Waldir> should i select multiline instead? [20:18:36] <Pathoschild> Waldir: It's not really necessary; you'll probably want to remove the whole <<...>> when you're done anyway. If you want a line-break, hit the [Enter] button in the search box instead of "\n". [20:19:04] <Pathoschild> Don't use multiline, or it will add a <<...>> on every line on the page. [20:19:14] <Waldir> lol, i noticed :P [20:19:17] <Pathoschild> :P [20:20:08] <Pathoschild> Single-line mode treats the entire document as a single line, so "^" matches at the start of the page. Multi-line mode treats every line as a separate line, so "^" matches at the start of every line. [20:20:33] <CIA-6> 03brion * r26386 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (3 files): temp demo from sandy's mock-up... [20:22:29] <Waldir> wow, so that's what single and multiline means! thanks, I finally understand that! [20:22:34] <Waldir> it makes sense now :D [20:22:41] <Pathoschild> Welcome. :) [20:22:43] <Waldir> I'm almost getting it to work [20:25:36] <arvernes> Pathoschild: hmmmm, and do you have an idea for this one ?? : [20:25:38] <arvernes> {{Indication de format [20:25:38] <arvernes> |infobulle=Image au format jpg, gif, png... [20:25:39] <arvernes> |format=image [20:25:41] <arvernes> }}<noinclude> [20:25:43] <arvernes> </noinclude> [20:26:08] <arvernes> which should looks like : [image] and which is displayed : [image</span> ] [20:26:10] <Pathoschild> Link? [20:26:21] <Waldir> Pathoschild: thanks a lot, I could do it :D I'm a little less noob in ABW matters, now =P [20:26:28] <Pathoschild> Waldir: You're welcome. :) [20:26:41] <arvernes> http://www.arvernes.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Uncategorizedtemplates [20:26:44] <arvernes> Line 23 [20:28:28] <dtolj> how to use ldapsearch to tesst connection to AD server? [20:29:13] <dtolj> i keep getting unknown authentication method error [20:29:19] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Why does the template have a <span> tag inside a <span> tag with the same conditional attributes? [20:29:31] <Pathoschild> (In http://www.arvernes.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8le:Indication_de_format&action=submit ) [20:30:28] <arvernes> dunno, I try to understand how this works ;-( [20:31:33] <Pathoschild> What is it supposed to do? [20:32:48] <arvernes> it is supposed to work with # 28 and #27 [20:33:59] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Creating internationalization of Special: Magic in Translate extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11554 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (bertrand.grondin) [20:36:01] <Pathoschild> Hmm. [20:36:03] <Pathoschild> Logic error. [20:36:23] <arvernes> ok, [20:36:56] <Pathoschild> {{#if:{{{infobulle|}}}|<span style="cursor:help" title="{{{infobulle|}}}">{{{format}}}{{#if:{{{infobulle|}}}|</span>}}|{{{format}}}}} [20:37:31] <Pathoschild> First, note that you're checking if {{{infobulle}}} inside the do-if-true for a check if {{{infobulle}}}. [20:38:22] <Pathoschild> Removing the nested {{#if}} seems to work. [20:38:55] <Pathoschild> It works now. [20:39:51] <arvernes> ;-) You're a genius Pathoschild . I 've been trying for such a long time to understand that, and you...bingo. you found it. ...thanks. [20:40:00] <Pathoschild> Welcome. :D [20:40:53] <AzaTht> brion-work: daily friendly reminder of bug 5678 [20:41:43] <AzaTht> on an other note brion-work, do you think bug 11473 is a good idea? [20:42:44] <ShiryuX> Hi someone =P [20:43:15] <ShiryuX> People, do you know how to edit the left panel? [20:43:46] <ialex> MediaWiki:Sidebar [20:44:47] <ialex> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [20:45:13] <ShiryuX> Thank you! =P [20:45:30] <dtolj> does anybody know if this chat is logged but some server, i need a conversation from a month ago [20:46:46] <ShiryuX> It should be logged on your Computer [20:47:09] <ShiryuX> Tools -> Logfiles [20:47:16] <Platonides> there's no "official" log [20:47:16] <ShiryuX> At the Top [20:47:16] <dtolj> how far back, i didnt manually ask it to log this channel [20:47:37] <Platonides> some people may have a personal log of it, though [20:47:43] <dtolj> i am using irssi [20:47:47] <ShiryuX> Check =P [20:48:27] <dtolj> Platonides: yea thats what i was thinking, but who? [20:49:46] <Pathoschild> dtolj: Which particular day? [20:50:38] <Pathoschild> I have 12 log files starting September 12th with "dtolj" in them. [20:52:07] <dtolj> Pathoschild: Yea it was beginning of september [20:52:27] <Pathoschild> What was the conversation about? [20:53:02] <dtolj> can you search for Ryan Lane [20:53:15] <dtolj> Pathoschild: about ldap [20:53:20] <arvernes> About the sidebar, I can't make it to display the Headings with a first Uppercase later. I write it with an uppercase, but it is displayed, with a lower case ;-) [20:54:06] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Make sure there's no page in the MediaWiki namespace with that name (for example, "Mainpage" would use the content of [[MediaWiki:mainpage]]). [20:54:50] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Searching. [20:55:24] <dtolj> Pathoschild: maybe even late August [20:55:49] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Can't find Ryan Lane in #mediawiki; I don't have logs for this channel for August. [20:56:26] <dtolj> Pathoschild: ok thanks for searching [20:56:31] <Pathoschild> Welcome. [20:56:37] <Wiredtape> Pathoschild, what is this about Ryan Lane? (I remember someone by that nick) [20:56:55] <Pathoschild> Wiredtape: Oh, it was a nick? [20:57:00] <Wiredtape> yeah [20:57:01] *Pathoschild searches for Ryan_Lane. [20:57:14] <dtolj> Wiredtape: he make Ldap extension [20:57:15] <Pathoschild> Wiredtape: dtolj is looking for a conversation. [20:57:20] <Wiredtape> I think it was RyanLane (or something similar) [20:57:34] <dtolj> could be [20:57:36] <Wiredtape> ok.. [20:57:38] <Pathoschild> I've found a few with Ryan_Lane. [20:57:54] <dtolj> Pathoschild: oh great when when were they? [20:58:30] <Pathoschild> Well, a few are just of him joining and quitting. [20:58:43] <dtolj> hmm [20:58:44] <Wiredtape> hehe [20:59:24] <Pathoschild> 'tis the fun part with searching IRC logs. ;) [20:59:54] <Wiredtape> or if you had raw logs you could just strip them :) [21:00:08] <dtolj> i am suprised mediawiki dosnt log it [21:00:45] <Pathoschild> I've found one where he says something about LDAP, addressed to specialKevin. [21:00:46] <dtolj> ShiryuX: do u log mediawiki? [21:01:02] *Pathoschild assumes dtolj had the same nick then? [21:01:09] <dtolj> yea i did [21:01:11] <arvernes> Pathoschild: thanks again. time to leave, later [21:01:18] <Pathoschild> arvernes: Welcome. Goodbye. [21:01:34] <ShiryuX> dtolj: I don't have Access to edit that page [21:01:52] <ShiryuX> But it give me a second installation to edit it as i like [21:01:58] <ShiryuX> With FTP access [21:02:46] <ShiryuX> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DAMN GOD GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL [21:03:09] <Wiredtape> goool? [21:03:14] <ShiryuX> Goal* [21:03:24] <ShiryuX> Boca Juniors, you should know that team [21:03:32] <ShiryuX> Soccer Team [21:03:42] <Wiredtape> I figured [21:05:05] <ShiryuX> Do you know in what file is located MediaWiki:Sidebar? [21:05:33] <Platonides> ShiryuX, edit that wikipage [21:05:35] <Simetrical> ShiryuX, it's not a file, it's a page on the wiki. [21:06:01] <ShiryuX> Okay, thanks you three (dtolj, platonides, simetrical) [21:06:08] <ShiryuX> And ialex [21:09:36] <Wiredtape> Does anyone know a guesstimate on when Single User Login might be available for interwikis? [21:10:36] <Duesentrieb> Realy Soon Now (tm) [21:10:46] <Wiredtape> lol [21:11:08] <Simetrical> Wiredtape, it will be within a few months, just as has been true at any given time within the past two years. [21:11:20] <Wiredtape> another lol [21:11:23] <Simetrical> Wiredtape, also, it will be done when Brion finishes it. [21:11:26] <Wiredtape> i needed a laugh [21:11:45] <Simetrical> Which depends heavily on his workload for all sorts of other things. [21:12:21] *Simetrical wonders why he's subscribed to mediawiki-api [21:13:15] <CIA-6> 03brion * r26387 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: Fix for regression from r26357: send newtalk notifications only if user has that pref selected [21:13:42] <Wiredtape> Well, me thinks that's enough for one day.. good night... [21:14:10] <brion-work> Wiredtape: what's "for interwikis' mean there? [21:15:04] <jimbojw> hey guys - has anyone ever experienced people uploading non-images (like viruses, other executables) in an attempt to compromise a mediawiki system? [21:16:35] <brion-work> jimbojw: personally? not since the days of uploading .php files ;) [21:16:56] <jimbojw> right right [21:17:18] <jimbojw> yeah - i'm trying to figure out what kinds of concerns there could be [21:17:39] <jimbojw> to my understanding, MediaWiki already does a pretty good job of weeding out non-images before displaying the content back [21:17:50] <Simetrical> jimbojw, there are some images on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. that contain known buffer overflow exploits and stuff. Haven't heard of anything much bad happening for it, though. [21:17:53] <Simetrical> from it. [21:18:26] <Supergrilo> ate amanha ;* [21:18:27] <Simetrical> jimbojw, well, there are also executables and stuff, I think. Greg was mentioning all this lately, ask him on #wikimedia-tech. I think he's around. [21:18:45] <jimbojw> thanks Simetrical [21:19:25] <jimbojw> Simetrical: you mean gmaxwell? [21:19:35] <Simetrical> jimbojw, yep. [21:19:45] <jimbojw> ok cool - i'll ask over there [21:19:49] <jimbojw> thanks again [21:51:11] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (rene.kijewski) [22:01:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Edit summary is too short - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11550 (10gtisza) [22:01:38] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 +comment (10thomas.dalton) [22:06:05] <CIA-6> 03brion * r26388 10/trunk/phase3/languages/ (Names.php messages/MessagesShi.php): Add stub for shi (Tachelhit) [22:34:39] <AzaTht> hmm, I something is broken with what links here [22:37:51] <AzaTht> filing bug [22:41:27] <dtolj> anybody have logs from this channel from late August? [22:41:27] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Namespace selection in Special:Whatlinkshere doesn' t follow redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11556 major; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (azatoth) [22:41:42] <AzaTht> dtolj: some [22:42:10] <dtolj> I have been looking like crazy to find a conversation i had with someone [22:42:49] <dtolj> AzaTht: can you see if my nick pops up somewhere in late august early september? [22:43:08] <dtolj> i had a talk with Ryan_Lane [22:44:08] <AzaTht> aug 24 [22:44:36] <dtolj> AzaTht: can you email me the log file, i would greatly appretiate it [22:44:46] <facefaceface> hiarc, I made a modification to the newarticletext message to offer the possibility of searching for the 'newarticletext', but it dosn't work because it sticks _'s in the search. [22:44:54] <facefaceface> You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet. To create the page, start typing in the box below (see the [[{{MediaWiki:helppage}}|help page]] for more info). If you are here by mistake, just click your browser's '''back''' button. [22:45:07] <facefaceface> looks fine on the page, but something goes wrong on the link [22:45:36] <dtolj> AzaTht: dejan1@gmail.com [22:46:02] <facefaceface> doh... I posted the default message, here is my message; [22:46:09] <facefaceface> You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet. You can try a <big>'''[[Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}|search for '{{PAGENAME}}']]'''</big> or, to create the page, simply start typing in the box below (see the [[{{MediaWiki:helppage}}|help page]] for more info). If you are here by mistake, just click your browser's '''back''' button. [22:47:27] <AzaTht> sent [22:47:38] <facefaceface> anyone seen anything similar working? [22:48:51] <dtolj> AzaTht: Thanks a lot Carl [22:48:51] <facefaceface> this is an example? http://biodatabase.org/index.php?title=The_scop_database_protein&action=edit [22:52:46] <facefaceface> you see when you click the link to the search it fails due to _ [22:53:14] <facefaceface> is there anything that I can do about that [22:54:55] <Duesentrieb> facefaceface: try {{#urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}}} [22:55:12] <Duesentrieb> (or was it without the #?) [22:55:29] <facefaceface> Duesentrieb, cool! I forgot about that [22:55:35] <facefaceface> I thought that would add _ [22:55:49] <Duesentrieb> no... it should convert spaces to + [22:55:59] <Duesentrieb> which... might or might not work. [22:56:03] <facefaceface> yup - which is what I need... [22:56:16] <Duesentrieb> you probably have to use external link syntax. but then, urlencode should definitely work [22:56:42] <Duesentrieb> facefaceface: + might get escaped when building a wiki link. so, use external link syntax [22:59:11] <facefaceface> You searched for Protein+database+search+test :-D works [23:00:05] <Duesentrieb> facefaceface: hm? sure? on the search page, you should not see +, but spaces... [23:00:23] <facefaceface> Duesentrieb, yeah, but the search results are correct [23:01:40] <facefaceface> http://biodatabase.org/index.php?title=Scop_pfam&action=edit [23:02:58] <facefaceface> You searched for Scop_pfam - no results, You searched for Scop+pfam - 10+ hits [23:03:43] <facefaceface> You searched for Scop pfam - same results [23:04:21] <Duesentrieb> good then [23:04:34] <facefaceface> well then [23:04:38] <facefaceface> thanks [23:04:48] <facefaceface> ;-) [23:04:52] <Duesentrieb> np [23:26:12] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Edit summary is too short - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11550 +comment (10robchur) [23:26:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Increasing the length of the edit summary (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4714 +comment (10robchur) [23:28:15] <ideosync> hi. i setting up my first mediawiki and having a problem with the config. adding the line $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; seems to break things and give an error so i can no longer access the login page. [23:28:33] <ideosync> debian etch php 5 mysql 5 mediawiki 1.7.1 [23:29:01] <ideosync> i can find any documentation on this [23:29:36] <slavie|away> ideosync: Is there a ?> at the end of the file? [23:29:44] <ideosync> yes [23:29:53] <ideosync> and commenting that line out removes the error [23:31:27] <Pathoschild> Remove it; it's not needed. :) [23:36:17] <ideosync> but i need to have areas which are restricted to users, and if thereÅ› no control over account creation, thats a bit pointless, no? [23:38:19] <Pathoschild> No, I mean remove the "?>". [23:39:00] <Pathoschild> The $wgGroupPermissions line you gave above should work. [23:40:51] <ideosync> duh. sry. i can be a bit stupid at times. but no, that doesn work. still get the same. [23:41:23] <Duesentrieb> ideosync: weeellll... *what* error do you get? [23:42:26] <ideosync> the main page looks ok, but i get error as the page title, and clicking on log in goes back to itself. [23:42:46] <Pathoschild> Link? [23:42:49] <ideosync> the only other lines i have in the config are [23:42:51] <ideosync> $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [23:42:55] <ideosync> $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = true; [23:43:03] <ideosync> www.ideosync.net/mediawiki [23:43:26] <ideosync> and [23:43:27] <ideosync> $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [23:43:32] <ideosync> $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true; [23:43:35] <Pathoschild> It looks like you didn't set the whitelist array. [23:43:55] <Pathoschild> < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights > [23:43:58] <ideosync> what do i need to add to that? [23:44:00] <Duesentrieb> Pathoschild: is that needed? [23:44:04] <Pathoschild> See the line for "read". [23:44:06] <Duesentrieb> Pathoschild: what for? [23:44:34] <Pathoschild> Duesentrieb: He set "read" to false, but didn't set the login page as whitelisted. Thus, anybody logged out can't view the site, including the login page. [23:45:01] <ideosync> ah yes. that would be a bit daft wouldn it. sry to waste your time. [23:45:05] <Pathoschild> :) [23:45:06] <Pathoschild> The default for the array is apparently false. [23:45:09] <Duesentrieb> Pathoschild: last i looked, the login page was actually hard coded to be always allowed, whitelist or no... [23:45:22] <Duesentrieb> but then, i only saw the code, i didn't check if it actually worked :) [23:45:29] <Pathoschild> Well, it's not working here: http://www.ideosync.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page :) [23:45:48] <Duesentrieb> Pathoschild: the default is fals because setting it to something disables read access :) [23:46:04] <Pathoschild> Even for users with the read permission? [23:46:23] <Duesentrieb> i think so. but i havn't checked. [23:46:34] <Duesentrieb> ReadWhitelist was around before group permissions [23:46:56] <Pathoschild> That's weird; if so, the documentation definitely needs to be corrected. [23:47:11] <ideosync> ah except it worked with \just those four lines if i commented out the createaccount line [23:47:51] <ideosync> ie like now. [23:48:07] <ideosync> i just commented out the create account line and all is hunky dory [23:48:45] <Pathoschild> So maybe the createaccount right is checked for Special:Userlogin instead of the read right. [23:48:57] <Pathoschild> Makes sense, in retrospect.

[00:02:45] 03(mod) Provide a link to the help page from redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11546 +comment (10ceci_est_mon_adresse-wikipedia) [00:15:21] 03(NEW) Need "Has alternate form" or "Has form" relation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11548 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (yaron57) [00:19:49] 03brion * r26335 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/ (SpamBlacklist.php SpamBlacklist_body.php): Break spam blacklist log info out to a sep file [00:36:43] 03(mod) Spam blacklist broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11545 (10brion) [00:41:26] Can anyone see any problems with this query: SELECT * FROM `report` WHERE read = 0 AND groupfor IN ('bureaucrat', 'sysop') [00:42:27] Not particularly, no. [00:42:30] Seems okay. [00:42:33] no [00:42:54] I'm getting a syntax error in the bit after the WHERE [00:43:15] read is an INT(1), and groupfor is a VARCHAR(100) [00:43:39] Could read be a reserved word? Maybe try `read` = 0? [00:44:16] http://rafb.net/p/VFz9Uv93.html [00:44:20] Thats the error [00:44:22] Ok, one second [00:45:17] Simetrical: Yep that was it. Thanks! [00:46:50] hmm [00:48:25] 03yaron * r26336 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.inc: setSemanticData() takes in "is_list" argument [00:49:09] 03brion * r26337 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist_body.php: * (bug 11545) Don't let everything through if there's a bogus whitelist entry [00:49:23] 03yaron * r26338 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormClasses.inc: Calls to setSemanticData() on template parse set "is_list" parameter [00:49:26] 03(FIXED) Spam blacklist broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11545 +comment (10brion) [00:53:42] can something like __MAXTOCLEVEL3__ or __MAXTOCLEVEL2__ be added to change the $wgMaxTocLevel on a per-page basis? [00:54:23] You could make an extension to do so quite easily [00:54:55] hm [00:55:00] ok [01:02:28] 03yaron * r26339 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: [01:02:28] setSemanticTypeHook() now takes in additional 'is_list' argument, moved [01:02:28] SMW 0.7-specific code to its own section, minor PHP fixes [01:04:43] I got a question... I am trying to edit a page... and am trying to do [[Image:http://etc...jpg]] but though I get the image I get "[Image:" around the picture. [01:05:10] 03yaron * r26340 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: [01:05:10] Split functions into SMW 0.7 and SMW 1.0 versions, thanks to code from [01:05:10] Louis Gelbarg (bug 11506) [01:05:11] [image: &pic& ] [01:06:13] 03yaron * r26341 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: sffGetDefaultForm() takes in one less argument (part of bug 11506) [01:07:02] Che-Anarc: if you want to include an external image, just put the address on a line by itself [01:07:41] Somehow with that I get the link... maybe I messed up withsomewhere else? [01:07:54] Its a long doc.... man I hate not having admin right over the wiki. [01:07:59] 03aaron * r26342 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): *Allow for no tags (just one level) [01:11:45] ping brion [01:11:56] ? [01:12:36] 03yaron * r26343 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageZh_tw.php: Finally fixed encoding problem on this file [01:12:37] I'm curious about the go button namespace bug, if it's fixed then typing in "column" wouldn't take you to the Column article? [01:12:54] that is, you'd have to type in ":column"? [01:13:16] 03yaron * r26344 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 0.6.5 [01:27:20] 03aaron * r26345 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage_body.php: *Allow tags to be empty [01:43:06] are there plans to get OutputPage::addScript() to work more like addStyle()? [01:48:37] Anyway to resize / control dimensions of images when editng a page with extranal images. [01:49:10] Che-Anarc, no. The feature is kind of sucky. The real support is for locally-uploaded images. [01:53:02] alxndr: hypothetically [01:53:08] i'm still a little leery of that, personally [01:53:19] but searching the other search namespaces ain't a bad idea, itself [01:53:21] brion, the go/namespace question or the addscript? [01:53:25] ah [01:54:48] yeah, it seemed weird since it would seem to mean you'd have to always specify the namespace when using the go button to actually go somewhere [01:55:36] well only if you do something so foolish as to remvoe the main namespace from your search set :) [01:55:58] which i'm not convinced is a good thing to support ;) [01:56:02] well since that's where the bug came from, someone's gonna do it, right? [01:57:41] well i'd say it's worth looking at in the bug [01:57:50] er, in a patch [01:58:06] but it might be best in the end to say 'well it'll always search main namespace' [01:58:24] and just extending it to also search the other searchable namespaces [02:00:35] 03aaron * r26346 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage_body.php: *Log cleanup [02:02:27] brion, one more question, is there a way for an extension to override a function of Linker? [02:03:18] alxndr: a skin is a descendent of Linker, and thus can override its functions [02:03:41] yeah, I'm trying to do this with an extension though [02:03:57] ugh [02:04:00] guess i might have to change that [02:10:53] 03(NEW) Minor edit: change CSS class img.thumbborder to just . thumbborder - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11549 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rememberthedot) [02:21:46] Extensions are easier than they sound, just really badly documented on where to start [02:21:58] Whats the global that contains the current page name? [02:23:31] Nevermind, I did an ugly hack :) [02:23:46] $wgTitle->getPrefixedText() [02:24:42] Thanks [02:37:14] 03(FIXED) Small bug in new sffLinkText - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11507 +comment (10yaron57) [02:40:14] 03(FIXED) Special:AddData doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11535 +comment (10yaron57) [02:46:11] *amidaniel stabs threads [02:48:11] Anyone any good at diagnosing deadlocks in java? :) [02:49:31] G'ah nvm .. found the problem [02:50:54] 03(mod) Special:CategoryRedirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10448 (10fearow00) [02:57:06] what's a good way to turn user-entered text into the namespace const it might be? [03:00:07] amidaniel: Me [03:00:26] alxndr: Through the Title object I suppose [03:02:41] really, how? (i'm talking about "main" > NS_MAIN) [03:02:42] alxndr, I suppose $t = Title::newFromText( "$userns:x" ); $ns = $t->getNamespace(); would be one. [03:02:57] "main" isn't a valid NS prefix, though. [03:03:04] So that would fail. [03:03:06] well if it were [03:03:38] there's a more direct method [03:03:50] in $wgContLang [03:03:57] If the transparent part of images appear black (like on this page: http://www.lindox.info/wiki/PulseAudio) and I'm not using ImageMagick, this is a PHP bug right? [03:04:06] is it possible to link a subcategory to a specific category only, so there could be duplicate of 2 page with the same name but different content, because of different theme for exemple [03:05:03] I am trying to set a category tree that will link to 2 or more different stance of a same “theme”, example : I have the tree autumn > activities > 12-17 years old, and/ or the tree spring > activities > 12-17 years old. I want 2 different stance of 12-17years old page, how can I set that page? [03:05:17] firewing1: Could be your browser [03:05:25] Tagnik, give the subcategories different names, like "Autumn activities". [03:06:03] ok yeah that what i feared. it's the only way right Simetrical ? [03:06:18] Tagnik: Or make 12-17 a category, and activities a category, and use DPLs to find which are in both 12-217 and activities [03:06:20] TheFearow, I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.6 [03:06:52] DPLs ? [03:06:53] Tagnik, an extension. [03:07:05] Check out the DynamicPageList extension [03:07:09] great thx [03:07:18] a lot for the help [03:07:53] Anytime [03:08:22] TheFearow, do you see the black too or is it only my side? [03:08:37] i see it. [03:08:38] Checking now [03:08:49] I see it [03:08:52] 03brion * r26347 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (4 files): [03:08:52] Added some cache headers and a bumpable epoch. [03:08:52] Forced shared caching assumes a version of PHP that doesn't send out unnecessary session cookies... how to best handle ensuring this? [03:08:52] Ideally we wouldn't even have a session. Maybe we have to turn this into an entry point to force it for sure. [03:08:53] Todo: handle Last-Modified requests... and all the infrastructure for changing.. and... :) [03:08:56] Its a serverside rendering issue by the looks [03:09:07] 03tstarling * r26348 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/cortado/ (159 files in 21 dirs): Copy of Cortado source, r5565. URL: https://core.fluendo.com/svn/cortado/trunk [03:09:17] It works on the non-thumbnail, so its some thumbnail rendering issue [03:09:19] So serverside yes [03:12:33] 03tstarling * r26349 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/cortado/src/com/fluendo/player/Cortado.java: Applying cortado-tweak.diff: don't use static class variables. [03:15:41] TheFearow; any idea what causes it? [03:15:41] 03tstarling * r26350 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/cortado/src/com/fluendo/plugin/AudioSink.java: [03:15:41] Applying cortado-truncation-bugfix.diff, as per r26204: [03:15:41] Fix for bug 11232. Improved port of GStreamer's GstBaseAudioSink [03:15:41] (gstbaseaudiosink.c in gst-plugins-base). AudioSink should block on EOS until [03:15:41] playback is finished. This behaviour is also mentioned in GStreamer's [03:15:44] part-element-sink.txt. [03:19:06] downhillgames: I'd say corrupt imagemagick or whatever image engine your PHP is using, or a bug in it [03:19:23] TheFearow, downhillgames, I'm using GD [03:24:36] That might be broken/buggy then [03:25:24] 03tstarling * r26351 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (README cortado-truncation-bugfix.diff cortado-tweak.diff): Don't need these patches anymore. Updated README file. [03:27:15] does rendering the thumbnail require some additional execute or write permission in the folder ? [03:29:14] Tagnik, even if it did "apache" has write perms to images/thumb/ [03:31:21] kk [03:32:27] Where is MediaHandler contained? [03:32:39] I have a feeling my bug has something to do with it [03:35:40] found it - includes/media/Bitmap.php [03:36:32] TheFearow: You rang? [03:39:06] Hello again Thefearow, i read about DPL'S and have it installed now, it work perfecly, but from what i understand it will help me call pages with some critera, but i will style need to callmy pages differently for different category? like 12-17_years_old_automne for automne activities, and 12-17_years_old_spring for else right? [03:40:02] ohhh nm [03:40:11] i just reread what you told me up there [03:40:13] i got it [03:40:16] thx [03:46:09] We have an alllinks module? O.o [03:46:28] How odd ... not really sure what to do with that :D [04:02:55] Hmmm... Wierd - Somebody using vbulletin had the same problem, and it was because of the lack of a few lines dealing with transparency [04:03:07] they're not in includes/Image.php, but adding them makes no difference [04:13:22] hi [04:13:35] I have q question [04:13:43] I have a question [04:14:56] WonYong, go ahead and ask. [04:15:19] I use interwiki bot between my mediawiki and wikipedia(all languages) [04:15:29] I want to [04:16:23] I installed wikipedia interwiki tables [04:17:02] but how to set family.py? [04:17:26] Your question is probably more likely to be answered in #pywikipediabot [04:17:46] ah, thanks :) [04:19:16] Is there any way to virtualy change an article name, so there is articlename1 and articlename2, but they both seems to be names "articlename" [04:19:19] ? [04:19:28] named* [04:25:42] Tagnik: {{DISPLAYTITLE:titletoshowhere}} [04:25:51] Itll only work on the latest version though [04:26:30] ok great again [04:26:35] thx [04:28:40] 03tstarling * r26352 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/README: updated ffmpeg bug URL [04:42:13] ok it work perfectly TheFearow, just had to add $wgAllowDisplayTitle in setting, unfortunately the name wont change in the category tree, but i guess there is no solution for that [04:42:40] Yeah [04:42:49] Hmmm, I think its enabled by default in 1.11, but I could be wrong [04:42:59] alright gnight and thx a tons, [04:43:02] yes it is [04:43:09] but i had 10.x.x version [04:43:31] you made me save a bunch of time, i realy appreciate, thx !! [05:43:48] 03david * r26353 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtPages.php: Fixed link from comment history to thread history, which was broken. Made the 'from talk:...' visible during history pages. [06:06:57] where do I add this: require_once($IP.'/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php'); in LocalSettings.php? [06:10:53] Is anyone looking for creative ways to use MediaWiki? [06:11:06] I think it can save the world [06:11:31] how explain. [06:12:18] what is Wiki software, really? [06:12:32] it combines the simple, powerful strengths of the Web [06:12:41] (hyperlinks, flexible publishing, etc.) [06:13:02] and makes them effortlessly free and easy for people to leverage in manipulating content [06:13:15] it's the first software that is made of pure freedom [06:13:32] what does this mean? it means that the first true mass conciousness will be implemented as a Wiki, or as something similar [06:13:38] http://www.wikitaba.org [06:13:39] is there a software to publish our own wiki - like wordpress for blogging ? [06:13:43] here's a start [06:13:58] *slavie|away strips the weasel words and lofty rhetoric from murftropolis' statements, and gets "It's makes web publishing easy, which will save the world and right all wrongs." [06:14:05] It* [06:14:50] thank slavie [06:14:55] where do I add this: require_once($IP.'/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php'); in LocalSettings.php? [06:14:59] Welcome. [06:15:15] I have weasels in my throat and they mix their words in with mine when I speak [06:15:36] Don't worry, it's a pretty common phenomenon on wikis. [06:15:49] actually, I think they help me get my thoughts across [06:15:58] I don't feel I'm exaggerating the importance of Wiki [06:17:28] :P [06:18:21] ShawnRisk: Anywhere should be fine, but try to keep your custom settings together. I'd suggest a section called "Custom settings" at the very bottom. [06:18:41] set mode to +t :( [06:18:48] That way you can easily copy & paste your settings into updated an LocalSettings.php when you upgrade MediaWiki. [06:18:49] Pathoschild: yes but I put that in and it didn't work [06:18:50] please [06:19:11] Killer-X: Why? [06:19:12] channel mode +t :| [06:19:22] anyone can change topic [06:19:25] Yep. [06:19:29] :+ [06:19:35] Pathoschild: any ideas? [06:19:51] Nope. [06:20:15] Killer-X: We even let anyone change our website. Weird, huh? ;) [06:20:27] no [06:20:35] becuuase it will cause misunderstanding so [06:26:34] instead of the link to the .svg version of an image just using the SVG with PNG fallback would be nicer i think [06:28:51] where is ?> in the localsettings.php I don't have that [06:31:19] ShawnRisk: You shouldn't need the closing ?> tag [06:31:27] okay [06:31:51] you always need the closing ?> tag in php [06:31:59] morning [06:32:01] or else you have crappy malformed php [06:32:09] amidaniel: I am trying to add require_once($IP.'/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php'); to localsettings.php but it isn't working [06:32:14] if it works without the closing tag it shouldnt [06:33:47] well it isn't working [06:34:05] I just add that line without ?> as there isn't any [06:35:35] can you show me your localsettings.php file? [06:36:01] ShawnRisk: Check your letter case [06:36:18] Is the file located at *exactly* ./extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php ? [06:36:34] yes [06:37:25] ShawnRisk: Can you pastebin a ls -R for me? [06:37:32] ok [06:37:34] one sec [06:37:37] kk [06:38:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Darth_Vader&action=purge#Cultural_figure [06:38:24] "Vader is a common choice for Halloween costumes, as shown here in conversation with Japanese schoolgirls." [06:38:46] VoiceOfAll: O.o [06:39:04] amidaniel: got it to work, was permissions [06:39:14] ShawnRisk: Ahh, that'll do it :) [06:39:21] Glad it's working for you [06:41:26] thanks [06:44:08] 03gmaxwell * r26354 10/trunk/tools/counter/fast_counter.c: First lame attempt at a fast page view aggregation program. [06:44:19] how often is mediawiki updated? [06:44:54] Constantly in SVN [06:45:08] New stable versions every quarter [06:47:56] okay [06:58:11] <_wooz> lo [06:58:22] hihi [07:02:56] Someone mind checking this code out? http://rafb.net/p/p7181E35.html the messages dont appear to be working [07:03:08] well, viewreports works but aalertviewintro doesnt [07:03:49] The code to output the message: $wgOut->addWikiText(wfMsg("aalertviewintro")); [07:04:35] heh [07:04:35] 'aalertviewintro' >= 'Below [07:05:03] (Should be 'aalertviewintro' => 'Below...) [07:10:35] amidaniel: Hm, what? [07:10:50] um* [07:11:11] TheFearow: The operator you want there is "=>" not ">=" [07:11:19] Oh! Stupid me :p [07:11:37] Thank you so much [07:11:38] heh :) [07:11:43] Not a problem [07:11:46] I hate bugs like that :) [07:11:47] Thats three hours of debugging :p [07:11:59] haha .. yup, been there, done that [07:12:01] I really should ask here first [07:12:17] I do it all the time in java, when I spend hours debugging something where I got one character wrong [07:12:38] Most annoying is when I rename something using eclipse which will update almost all references, then realise I used reflection somewhere :( [07:12:53] Realise after trying to figure out why it keeps erroring [07:13:34] *amidaniel whispers something about eclipse's "quick fixes" being evil :) [07:14:46] I actually just finished several hours of debugging on a similar problem -- trying to figure out why my "kill" function was leaving threads alive that shouldn't be, only to discover that I had never called the function :D [07:18:27] amidaniel: That sounds fun [07:18:48] You're welcome to do it for me some time :) [07:18:55] My absolute worst thing ever is when I use a + to add two strings together in PHP and cant figure out why my dies or echos are giving the number 1 [07:19:11] Haha, yeah, I do that in php a lot [07:19:23] Or worse use a . in java :p [07:19:50] I've actually just recently developed a bad habit of using ' for strings in c and java [07:20:35] Wont Java allow it? [07:21:11] "I sometimes wonder if all women are this difficult. And then I think to myself, 'My God, wouldn't it be marvelous if I turned out to be a homosexual?'" [07:21:24] TheFearow: Only for chars, not strings .. which makes it all the more confusing :) [07:21:27] Darn [07:21:28] brb [07:30:04] back [07:30:11] amidaniel: Chars are an annoying type [07:31:37] TheFearow: Why do you say that? [07:31:56] They behave in unusual ways [07:32:02] And are hard to convert to [07:32:55] And have crap support for anything non-ascii [07:33:08] hmm .. I do have to say that Java's chars are far better than in any other language I've worked with [07:33:19] On some Java versions, String.toCharArray will return two incorrect chars for two-byte characters etc [07:33:19] TheFearow: Huh? Are we talking about the same language here? [07:33:51] On a lot of java implementations chars act as single-byte only, which is incredibly annoying [07:34:17] amidaniel: I assume you mean Java [07:34:55] Isn't it mandated by the language spec that chars are 2-bytes? [07:35:05] All toCharArray does is offset + srcBegin, dst, dstBegin, srcEnd - srcBegin); [07:35:28] So if toCharArray is "wrong", the string has to be "wrong" too -- all a string is is an array of chars [07:35:58] I mean in a lot of cases that the chars returned from toCharArray end up being assumed to be one byte [07:36:07] Yet charAt and the string itself handle them fine [07:36:26] Its only on some implementations, and some buggy versions [07:36:36] Well, all toCharArray does is copy the chars it uses to store the string into another array :) [07:36:42] Alright, "some implementations" :) [07:37:25] If you really want some fun with odd char behavior, play with ANSI C some time :) [07:39:13] Sadly it affects some older apple versions [07:39:28] Which i'm forced into using [07:44:02] Where do I get the namespace aliases from? [07:45:24] Woops, sorry, I gotta get going [07:45:25] Take care [07:45:34] Cya [07:50:12] Hello All [07:50:21] i need a help in wikipedia [07:50:48] go on [07:51:44] I installed a new wiki pdia [07:51:58] and i don't know how to start development [07:52:16] =) [07:52:28] by a) learning the language [07:52:32] b) setting goals [07:52:33] i need to customize it and add new features , is there any helpful resources ? [07:52:37] c) discussing [07:52:41] d) implementing [07:52:53] good [07:52:58] which language? [07:53:10] PediaXtra are you able to login? [07:53:18] yes [07:53:23] great! [07:53:42] you are ready to go then, start creating and editing pages, just like wikipedia [07:54:20] if i want to add some functionalities or features , is it possible by code? [07:54:51] Yep, check out the page Category:Extensions on mediawiki.org. There are heaps of premade extensions you can add in [07:54:55] Yes, there are skins and extensions [07:56:14] ok .. i will check my pedia then if you don't mind i will ask you if i need an assistance [07:56:20] is it Ok? [07:56:41] Some extensions are more up-to-date than others, so check on their status (last date). [07:56:53] Ok .. [07:56:58] Also, there are good help files in wikipedia.org on editing and such [07:57:06] it really depends what you want to do. [07:57:29] here is some info on skins http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins [07:57:57] here is the extensions category that Thefearow mentioned http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions [07:58:11] that shoudl keep u busy ;D [07:58:25] loooooooooool [07:58:29] ok .. thnx [07:58:35] np [08:16:38] Hi.. I hope someone can help me with this.. Can you in mediawiki include pages into another page, without using templates? [08:17:47] what is the mediawiki super user? [08:17:55] sure, {{:Pagename}} [08:18:02] PediaXtra: there is none. [08:18:20] any user with 'sysop' permissions [08:19:42] PediaXtra also there is the original Admin account created when you installed. [08:20:08] but there's nothing special about that account that warrants calling it a 'superuser'. [08:20:27] i need to login using the super user [08:20:46] Well, the original account that has sysop and bureaucrat privileges is in essence the superuser [08:20:47] well no, you need to log in as a sysop [08:21:03] 03erik * r26355 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): simplify simple UI further: when current & stable version are identical, show a different message & the stable icon. [08:23:12] especially since i suspect he's talking about the installation part [08:23:26] PediaXtra: where is it asking you to log in as the superuser? [08:25:26] hey people - is there any way i can embed a java applet into the top-right corner of the "Main Page"? [08:27:02] fishsponge_: Check out the extensions page, I believe there is an extension for java applets [08:32:30] Werdna: Thanks.. I got a bit sidetracked since I apparently had checked "use external editor". [08:32:36] I wonder where that feature is supported, doesn't work on MacOSX or Linux for me.. ;-/ [08:37:16] emj: You have to define an external editor first [08:37:24] no.. [08:38:14] I have to install a script that is supposed to run and then execute an external editor right? [08:40:00] 03kim * r26356 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Tidying some stuff out, minor updates to copying [08:42:04] I don't get it, do people actually use this "external editor" feature? Seems very hacky to me.. [08:43:00] emj: Not that I know of. As far as I know you just set which external editor to use and it launches it if its compatible [08:45:39] TheFearow: hmpf.. it's a cool idea that's why I checked it I think (several months ago), but it doesn't seem to work for me at all. Oh well, I guess feature rot is needed.. ;-) [08:45:54] ok bye that's all thanks for the help [08:46:29] 03tstarling * r26357 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (5 files): [08:46:29] WARNING! NEEDS CAREFUL DEPLOYMENT [08:46:30] * Bug 9213: Fixed the plainly broken user_newtalk updating and caching scheme. I tried to keep my changes roughly performance-neutral, but the update on Wikimedia should be watched carefully for performance problems. [08:46:30] * Made UserMailer a class, use the autoloader to load it [08:46:30] * General UserMailer refactoring [08:46:33] * If the user has email-on-newtalk enabled, send them an email for every change, not just the first one before they view the page again. [08:46:36] * Don't add a watchlist entry automatically on change of user talk page [08:49:12] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 +comment (10tstarling) [08:53:43] <_lyte_> hi all [08:53:55] <_lyte_> is there a way to combine/merge two mediawiki sites into one / [08:53:56] <_lyte_> ? [08:55:15] <_lyte_> we have two wikisites running in the same machine (two subdomains) now I want to move both the sites to a new machine but as one single mediawiki site. I foung the Special:Export/import. But that will take a long time as there are lots of pages to be done this way. Is there any other way ? [08:57:23] 03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769 +comment (10gtisza) [08:59:07] _lyte_: Import and Export isnt that slow, and its the simplest way to do it [08:59:19] There are other ways but they take a lot of work [09:00:31] heh, you can merge the databases if you're feeling frisky. [09:00:34] 03erik * r26358 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): [09:00:34] - Add tab to access per-page QA settings [09:00:34] I'm calling this "qa" for short because the tab list is overcrowded already for many people, [09:00:34] and making it too long tends to lead to trouble in low resolutions. [09:00:55] Werdna: I'd suggest it but you have to modify all the keys etc as they would clash [09:01:21] it wouldn't be too bad, only you'd have to update the foreign keys. [09:01:49] and that would be more trouble than it's worth. [09:02:09] And if users were using it at the time itd change all sorts of other things, or at least display really weirdly [09:02:22] Hey Duesentrieb [09:03:30] good eeeeeeeeevvening [09:03:35] Hmmm, someone mind checking out this? http://rafb.net/p/nDNNzq31.html I cant find the problem [09:05:03] what's the expected return value? [09:05:07] what's the actual return value? [09:05:21] what IS $row->read? [09:05:57] A value returned from a database, either 0 or 1 [09:06:28] Expected: false. Actual: dies on that line with no error message [09:06:46] It happens on syntax errors for some reason, but I cant pin that one down [09:07:23] expand on "dies" [09:08:04] As in stops executing [09:08:18] what's the context of this? [09:08:20] It closes the connection to the browser and stops executing [09:08:26] It happens on syntax errors, happens a lot [09:08:30] I'll paste [09:08:38] ugga [09:09:19] http://rafb.net/p/EdQNOG48.html is some context [09:09:34] last line in the debug log file is the readraw one [09:10:11] TheFearow: uh, did you turn full error reporting on? [09:10:33] How would I do that? [09:10:58] Could it be something to do with the fact im doing this from within a class? [09:11:26] no [09:11:32] it's something to do with your php.ini [09:14:04] Weird [09:14:11] The no output happens on syntax errors [09:14:18] Do I need a this:: or this-> or something like that? [09:15:30] look for this line in your php.ini: error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE [09:16:36] you can just do it in localsettings: [09:16:36]