[00:02:04] any ideas? [00:03:48] Try adding this and see what happens: [00:03:50] $wgWhitelistRead = array("Main Page", "Special:Userlogin", "-", "MediaWiki:Monobook.css"); [00:04:02] (And re-add the createaccount right.) [00:04:56] The documentation is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWhitelistRead >, if you're curious. [00:05:37] excellent. thank-you. [00:05:41] Welcome. [00:06:46] Duesentrieb: I think you were thinking of $wgWhitelistEdit ? [00:06:56] perhaps it might be an idea to add this to help:user rights? as that is where i was looking before. [00:07:09] It's already there. :) [00:07:19] read allows viewing pages not defined in $wgWhitelistRead. [00:08:28] ah. just me being dim then :-/ [00:08:43] thanks for your help :) [00:09:00] Welcome. :) [00:10:51] DEATH TO CRACKBERRIES [00:19:32] *Werdna waves [00:19:55] *ShiryuX runs [00:19:55] *Werdna steals NotACow's crackberries. [00:20:38] *ShiryuX steals Werdna's NotACow's crackberries. [00:21:35] *ST47 burns the crackberries [00:31:00] hey, no one can edit articles on my wiki, can somoene help? [00:31:10] when you click edit you go to a blank page [00:38:16] I have upgrade from 1.3.x to 1.11.0 and I seem to have lost history updates (yes there are backups, we are testing obviously). [00:38:35] The main page for example is missing the last 3 months of updates in the upgraded wiki instance. [00:38:48] Any advice, suggestions, help or other would be greatly appreciated. [00:39:26] The final main page on the 1.11 instance is definitely an old rev, the history tab shows it being July and the most recent is last month. [00:41:08] While the 1.3 instance shows the most recent change as being Sept 25. [00:41:34] So I am wondering how I screwed up as I was rather careful, read the upgrade notes, etc. [00:41:58] there doesnt seem to be anyone home [00:42:11] I do believe you are right. [00:42:16] I will have to try again later. [00:46:29] hi, is the list of permitted file extensions (wgFileExtensions) accessible to users anywhere ? [00:47:49] So I seem to have lost a number of historical revisions on my upgrade from 1.3.x to 1.11.... Basically the previous wiki main page was last edited 9/25 and the updated version is 7/x. So obviously [00:48:03] Something went south.... and I am wondering if anyone has suggstions. [00:48:53] only askers here... no answerers [00:49:07] coverity: Possibly try again; it might a temporary glitch with the database transition script. [00:49:09] ... [00:49:22] *Pathoschild looks from coverity to coverit1. [00:49:40] I am double sleeved.... [00:49:47] He will timeout as dead. [00:49:52] Pathoschild, get back to your homework. [00:50:11] Or possibly try upgrading to a nearer version like 1.5 (which included many database schema changes) first. [00:50:15] Fine. :( [00:50:31] Don't make me tell on you. [00:50:51] *Pathoschild hopes Shanel_ doesn't tell Shanel. [00:50:52] That was my next move, try hoping up and over the various revisions, but I was hoping maybe, just maybe there was a ticky sneaky way to get in one go :) [00:50:55] I am lazy by default. [00:50:57] I am an admin. [00:51:09] She will. [00:51:23] If laziness is an admin trait, then Pathoschild is all set. [00:51:25] coverit1: I'm not a MediaWiki developer, so maybe there's a lazy solution somewhere I don't know. [00:51:40] It is not all that much work... [00:52:11] I will try it, besides, I can come back and whine about my grevious inconvenience when using someone else's nice code that donated to the community. [00:56:44] *Werdna giggles [00:58:17] *Werdna tickles Shanel_ [00:58:36] ;D [00:58:39] Werdna! [00:58:44] uh oh [00:58:49] hey Pathoschild, are you around? [00:59:09] He said he would be right back a few minutes ago. [00:59:13] So no. [01:02:06] I used apt-get to install mediawiki on ubuntu. my browser says it doesn't know what to do with a phtml file when I try the front page. [01:02:23] what am I missing? [01:03:09] ew, apt-get [01:03:14] sorry [01:03:19] have you installed php? [01:03:30] the apt-get installed it [01:04:13] and is it set up to use phtml files [01:06:07] then it is [01:06:16] I don't know if that is true [01:11:01] Werdna: Yeah, what Shanel_ said. [01:11:26] Pathoschild: do you do coding? [01:11:32] zik: grep for .php [01:11:36] MediaWiki coding? Nope. [01:11:47] coding in general. [01:11:57] I dabble. :) [01:12:14] Lies. [01:12:58] *Werdna corners Pathoschild and makes him test Werdna's online IDE beta. [01:13:01] in what files? [01:13:23] in your apache config [01:13:50] *Schroeder puts on the 1980 Bridgemen [01:13:58] Werdna: I know what an IDE is, but that's about as far as my experience goes in that regard. :p [01:14:11] :p [01:14:23] *Shanel_ makes Pathoschild code her a pony. [01:16:20] it's there. what am I looking for? [01:17:37] AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml [01:19:08] yeah. that's there. [01:19:41] is php enabled properly? [01:20:08] sorry to be dense; how do I check? [01:20:15] zik: Did you open any files in Wordpad or some other text editor except Notepad? [01:20:24] Particularly LocalSettings.php. [01:20:41] add a file called info.php somewhere, and put in it this is on ubuntu. I only used vi. [01:20:48] and then look at it with a web browser/ [01:21:33] Good; I doubt Vi is the problem, then. [01:23:49] the info.php works. I put it in the same directory with the mediawiki index.php. [01:26:19] and what happens when you try to open the mediawiki index.php (what's the output from phpinfo();? [01:27:19] if I open mediawiki/index.php my browser asks me what to do with a file of type php [01:27:35] and if you open info.php? [01:28:53] I get a page of php info like it should [01:29:10] What version does it specify? [01:29:32] 5.2.1 [01:33:01] it looks like the mediawiki files are all symlinks to another directory. [01:34:08] yeah. so, if I copy the index.php to the mediawiki directory, it works [01:34:34] so somewhere I need to tell apache it can follow simlinks [01:37:33] hrm. that's already there. [02:17:16] 03brion * r26389 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: Quick stab at rotating quotes. Quotes in rotation are send as a batch with the JS and picked at random at runtime, so the whole set is cached together. [02:17:51] Look, Carson Palmer! It's Kimo von Oelhoffen! [02:39:59] hey [02:40:33] I'm new to MW, how do I make a catagory? [02:43:39] just like other articles [02:48:01] 03(mod) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 +comment (10grahamwp) [04:53:21] VoiceOfAll: Whenever you return. I've forked your stuff to http://amidaniel.com/voicewiki/index.php/VoiceWiki:Main_Page [05:06:40] O [05:07:51] I've got a wierd bug i have 2 servers both running newest downloaded core .. both have same edits in localsettings.php one running lighttpd and other running grid based apache ... lighttpd fine no problems while the grid apache base won't allow you to login [05:07:54] you can sign in .. [05:08:13] it signs in no problem but when i traverse away going back to main_page or any other page [05:08:19] it is no longer signed in [05:09:00] Any idea's http://wiki.erualcarin.com <-- wiki that is giving problems [05:09:17] if i remove the cannot edit without sigining in [05:09:26] when you goto save an edit it says session data lost [05:14:47] Necrogami: where does php save its session data? [05:14:54] I would imagine it doesn't have write access to it. [05:15:44] no idea the host is mediatemple.net [05:17:52] have you looked at the FAQ? [05:18:25] http://wiki.erualcarin.com/info.php [05:18:33] which MT or MW? [05:20:03] MediaWiki [05:20:11] !faq | Necrogami [05:20:11] Necrogami : Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [05:21:08] Werdna, that does not answer the problem [05:21:50] now if i check my PHP info file for me it gives me this under PHPVariables _COOKIE["db13549_erualcarin_wiki__session"] 932e147112c1a987077fe96056f8c903 && _COOKIE["db13549_erualcarin_wiki_UserName"] Necrogami [05:21:59] So it's there [05:29:01] i think i figured it out [05:29:10] session.savepath is blank [05:31:37] but .. that's the same on my other server [05:31:39] where it is working [05:54:03] Any other idea's [05:54:09] it's not session.savepath [06:10:26] Necrogami: What version of php are you running? [06:11:09] Dev Server 5.2.1 [06:11:14] server that's not working 5.2.2 [06:12:27] hmm .. 5.2.2 should be fine. I know there were problems with 5.1.x [06:12:32] 2 servers http://wiki.necrogami.com/info.php Lighttpd 1.4.15 PHP 5.2.1 && http://wiki.erualcarin.com/info.php apache & php 5.2.2 (This server is not allowing me to stay logged in after signing in and going to info page i see the cookie and _REQUEST info in the PHP Variables [06:12:33] *amidaniel does some brainstorming [06:12:39] but it does stay logged in [06:13:11] i'm trying to move my game checking session section on both [06:13:12] there identical [06:13:31] most every setting i've checked there identical [06:14:04] Looks to be a pretty standard config -- do you have anything set up that the eye can't see, such as using memcached to cache sessions? [06:14:12] nope [06:14:29] afaik mediatemple.net doesnt memcache [06:14:36] i'll call to find out [06:14:52] You have anything else running on this server that stores and hands back session data? [06:15:06] plenty of pear auth sessions [06:15:21] wait [06:15:22] wrong server [06:15:32] i haven't tried pear auth on mediatemple yet [06:15:59] It's a huge host ... [06:16:04] nearly 100k clients [06:16:34] okay [06:16:49] Well, I'm almost wondering if this might actually be the fault of php [06:16:52] let me tinker for a sec [06:18:39] Would you be willing to try a downgrade to 5.2.1 for shitsngiggles? Every mw install I've got going is, at the latest, running under 5.2.1 [06:19:27] ugga pugga [06:19:37] Nikerabbit: ? [06:19:59] hello [06:20:50] Or an upgrade to 5.2.4 for that matter ... having just noticed Fixed session.save_path and error_log values to be checked against open_basedir and safe_mode (CVE-2007-3378) (Reported by Maksymilian Arciemowicz) [06:21:10] ? [06:21:36] http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php [06:22:46] but it works on the 5.2.1 [06:22:51] and not on the 5.2.2 [06:23:25] Yes, which is why I'm thinking it may be a bug introduced in 5.2.2 [06:23:51] there gonna send it upto a NOC admin for Mediatemple [06:24:28] Okay [06:24:47] That's about the only thing I can really think off -- most session data problems tend to be the fault of problems in php itself [06:24:49] i'd say there big [06:24:50] http://mediatemple.net/company/clients/ [06:25:08] Aha :) [06:25:09] Starbucks, Sony, Abc, Nike, [06:27:21] all i know is i can't wait to get my new colo server online [06:27:41] i'm sick of arguing with other hosts about spec's of server or why this or that won't work [06:28:03] Yeah, in-house is the way to go -- if you can afford it :) [06:28:22] AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 4GB Ram and 2x 500GB Hd's in Raid 0 Colo'd on Unmetered 10mbit for $88/month [06:28:51] I got an X2 6000+ in my latest desktop -- fast little son of a bitch [06:28:57] Yeah [06:29:11] Doesn't make the benchmarks the intel chips do -- but it's like a third the price, and I don't notice much of a difference :) [06:29:46] That full build w/ 4U case cost me less then $1000 [06:29:52] Not bad [06:30:00] it gonna host myself and clients using lighttpd w/ mod-mysql-vhost and some nice proftpd-mysql :-D [06:30:12] Till i can get "Little Wonder" built [06:30:19] Then i'm gonna go full scale hosting [06:30:26] "Little Wonder" ? [06:30:53] Little Wonder: Dual Proc Quad Core Opteron 16GB Ram and 24 Channel Raid 6 1tb Hd's [06:31:07] Aha :) [06:31:11] :-D [06:31:24] now you realize why it's named little wonder [06:31:26] lol [06:31:51] Well, the latest trend in servers are the 4x Xeon quads -- that's hard to compete with :) [06:32:12] they finally released a Quad Xeon? [06:32:18] Quad Proc* [06:32:44] 4x4 Xeon meh [06:32:51] i'm waiting on the 8x4 Opteron ;) [06:32:59] That's droolworthy [06:32:59] Sure did http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2+50001157+40000343+1389627503+1302825342&name=Quad-Core [06:33:10] Necrogami: Haha :) [06:33:21] i knew they had quad core [06:33:25] but they have quad socket? [06:33:41] i thought xeon's only scaled to dual socket [06:33:54] Holy jeesus christ: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117133 They got a quad core clocking 3GHz [06:33:59] For over a grand, but still :) [06:34:04] and? [06:34:16] Necrogami: I believe I came across a 4sock mobo for xeon [06:34:18] Lemme look [06:34:43] Necrogami: I hadn't heard of it yet -- surely the fastest chip I know [06:34:58] Newegg doesnt have anything but Quad 940's and Quad 1207's [06:35:51] Hmm .. indeed [06:36:06] Could've sworn I saw something somewhere though [06:36:15] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151089 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105174 [06:36:22] 16 Cores own 8 .... [06:36:29] jeez, you guys are still here [06:36:35] after I played DX for, like, an hour [06:37:04] O.o [06:37:05] Effective Ghz 16cores * 1.9ghz 30.4ghz vs intel 3ghz *8 cores 24ghz [06:37:21] DX? [06:37:39] *amidaniel has a miniorgasm at the sound of 16 cores :) [06:37:41] I was just exposed to www.2girls1cup.com [06:38:13] domas: Umm ... [06:38:19] Amidaniel wait for Quad Core x 8 Sockets ... 32 Cores [06:38:44] *amidaniel shivers [06:39:01] domas: not cool. [06:39:16] domas: NSFW does not do that justice. [06:39:30] I'm just telling that I was exposed to it [06:39:37] I wasn't suggesting you to go there [06:40:17] My virgin eyes .. my virgin eyes!!! [06:40:39] amidaniel: I don't want to know how one loses their eye virginity.. [06:40:53] LMAO @ that site [06:41:16] lmfao @ the reaction video at the top [06:42:14] maybe i don't wanta open that site [06:42:14] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145178 <--- mmm not a bad price for 4gb ram [06:43:15] puzzlet if you like your eyes [06:43:18] you won't open it [06:43:53] That site makes me want to throw up .. and then jab my eyes out with a fork [06:44:07] and i'm in office [06:44:08] =) [06:44:20] puzzlet NSFW is an extreme understatement [06:44:21] *Werdna stabs domas repeatedly [06:44:32] domas: as penance, I shall recruit you as an alpha tester. [06:44:35] *Necrogami beats domas with a 20lb sledge hammer [06:45:03] well, I'm same kind of victim as you are. [06:45:14] Werdna: my issue might be 5.2.2 itself from what amidaniel was saying [06:45:16] *puzzlet just found out what NSFW means [06:45:38] the changelog for 5.2.4 talks about problems with session.savepath [06:45:47] I could stand all other shocksites [06:45:58] i think after seeing that [06:46:08] i can view just about anything online and not be grosed out [06:46:40] did you watch it whole? [06:46:44] no [06:46:44] I couldn't stand after a while [06:46:51] about 30 sec and i was done [06:47:16] i want to wash my eyes out with acid [06:47:41] That really is the short of thing that makes your stomach churn :) [06:47:42] Can anyone else test Mediawiki 1.11.0 with 5.2.2? [06:47:45] no, I watched up to the point where I realised it was something deviat, and not ordinary porn :P [06:48:06] amidaniel: have I annoyed you into alphatesting yet? [06:48:15] Werdna: Alphatesting what? [06:48:17] *amidaniel hides [06:48:40] amidaniel: http://www.devanywhere.com [06:49:01] i'll alpha ;) [06:49:07] well, have a look [06:49:12] tell me what you think, what it needs, etc. [06:50:12] *amidaniel will brb [06:50:42] Werdna i [06:50:51] i'll tell ya right away what would make me use it [06:50:52] heh [06:51:10] mm? [06:51:14] give it versioning [06:51:17] and it'll own [06:51:18] it has that [06:51:21] ? [06:51:24] isn't that on the main page? [06:51:40] no, it isn't [06:51:41] i don't see it [06:51:42] must add it. [06:51:44] heh [06:51:48] anyway, it exists [06:51:52] I spent three days on it ;) [06:52:27] The requested URL /SavePreferences.php was not found on this server. [06:52:49] Tried to change my password .. got that error [06:53:30] it didn't try and ajax it it just redirected me [06:53:37] is javascript enabled? [06:53:44] yeah [06:53:46] some reason [06:53:50] it worked when i went back [06:53:56] that's weird [06:54:04] I'll remove the non-AJAX thing, seeing as it doesn't work anyway. [06:54:18] add in ability to upload gz [06:54:23] and unarchive it on the server [06:54:30] tgz** [06:54:57] already has that [06:55:03] under 'Upload File' [06:55:17] ahh didn't look at the check box heh ;) [06:55:27] does it detect? [06:55:31] bz2 vs gz? [06:55:36] *Werdna looks [06:56:00] heh, it detects tgz / zip, but not bz2 [06:56:01] *Werdna adds [06:56:09] yq [06:56:20] yw* [06:57:07] okay, what else? [06:57:09] what backbone is that server on? [06:57:19] that's one of the snappiest site's ive seen in a long time [06:58:24] it's a VPS [06:58:43] nice [06:58:53] it's defintaely very quick [06:59:27] <_wooz> lo [06:59:38] o/ [07:01:16] i don't think newsnippet works in FF [07:01:41] i highlight some code [07:01:47] and click new snippet [07:01:49] and nothing happens [07:02:01] --> #devanywhere [07:02:18] since this is kind of really escaping #mediawiki. [08:30:46] 03(mod) Increasing the length of the edit summary (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4714 (10gtisza) [08:33:50] 03mkroetzsch * r26390 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): +some extension hooks (needed by Halo extensions) [09:00:23] 03mkroetzsch * r26391 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: Disabled some overly eager checks for URL well-formedness [09:45:19] lo [09:58:23] Wiredtape: greetings [10:02:34] :) [10:06:06] Hello im new to mediawiki and i want to customize the toolbar that appears (line math etc.) wen you edit a page could someone tell me how this bar is caled so that i can searh a howto please [10:06:12] What do profileinfo.php and adminsettings.php do? [10:08:52] Anyone know of a library that can "render" wiki markup back into HTML, programatically? [10:18:35] lyricnz: teehee, we've been asked that question so many times before. [10:18:39] should be in the FAW [10:18:41] FAQ [10:18:49] anyway, I heard something on the mailing list about one [10:18:53] let me find it [10:21:10] hi all. i setup latest stable wiki on my comp, i seems work well, but i cannot delete files, there smthg wrong Query failed: ERROR: function concat(text, "unknown") does not exist LINE 1: ..._timestamp) SELECT 'deleted',IF(img_sha1='', '', CONCAT(img... ^ HINT: No function matches the given name and argument types. You may need to add explicit type casts. in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mediawiki/includes/DatabasePostgres.php on line 506 [10:21:17] lyricnz: take a look at http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/wiki [10:21:20] cat any body help me) [10:21:30] sorry for my english) [10:21:59] im using postgresql as my db [10:22:04] yes, so I can see. [10:22:18] and postgresql-8.2.4 [10:22:26] I suspect, given the new-ness of the code that seems to come from, that somebody forgot to think about postgres when they wrote that piece of code. [10:25:30] Werdna, do you have any idea what profileinfo is about? [10:26:24] could someone please tell me how the toolbar in the page edit mode is called or how do i add another icon [10:34:30] Hi. I want to customize the "recent changes" page. I need the information to be displayed in tables instead of the default

Hi! [10:42:28] evi|one: it's not possible without severe hacking. [10:42:38] evi|one: if you insist, look at SpecialRecentchanges.php [10:43:11] I'm writing an extension which needs to have special pages with editable sections. My plan is to transclude them from a custom namespace. Is there any way to hide that namespace so it can't be accessed (or, at least, new pages can't be created in it) except through the extension? [10:44:12] Duesentrieb: OK, thanks. I think I've got even more extreme stuff to do. :) Like display the last 5 changes as a box in the article page. [10:45:28] evi|one: look at the PageBy extension, and the News extension. What you want is more or less a cross between the two. [10:45:49] i.e.: that *can* be done without any hacking, nice and clean. [10:46:11] That would be great. [10:46:25] Thanks for the help. [10:56:47] hi [10:57:02] i get a error when i want to delete a file [10:57:11] that it couldnt create the folder "deleted" [10:57:20] where does this folder has to be? [10:58:30] under images, i think [10:59:08] thanks Werdna, I'll check it out [11:01:09] Duesentrieb: thank you [11:01:27] then i know where the problem was :) [11:01:47] is there a way that i can block out unregisterd users to add new pages or change wikipagesß [11:02:05] the last character was supposed to be a "?" ;-) [11:02:11] !access | marvxxx [11:02:11] marvxxx : For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [11:03:12] thank you bot ;-) [11:07:24] does i see right that the latest stable version is 1.11.0? [11:07:43] cause on the preventing access the talk about version 1.5...so this is for later right? [11:08:38] 03(NEW) Samogitian wikipedia namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11557 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hugo_a_saavedra) [11:09:48] marvxxx: 1.11 is latest. different sectiosn of the page are for different versions [11:09:55] stuff for 1.5+ should still apply [11:10:04] Duesentrieb: thank you alot. i just was not sure [11:10:07] is SELECT,INSERT,UPDATE enough on existing sql db for mediawiki sql user? [11:10:28] lousygarua: you want DELETE too. [11:11:25] Duesentrieb: oh yeah figured that out now, thanks [11:12:18] i added the wgWhitelistAccount line from the wiki page but i still can add new users as non sysop [11:13:16] marvxxx: you are reading the pre-1.5 section... [11:14:20] Duesentrieb: yes... [11:14:29] marvxxx: ...why? [11:14:47] 11 > 5, no? [11:14:55] aaaaahhh [11:15:05] im so sorry. i read it different. [11:15:19] 11, not 1.1 :) [11:16:07] Duesentrieb: yes that was my problem :) [11:16:21] i guess i need a coffee;-) [11:17:56] when i disable user registration...where can i add new users as sysop? [11:18:16] Does anyone know what has changed between 1.10 and 1.11 in terms of RemoveTabs() ? [11:19:19] marvxxx: by going to the normal login page (while being logged in) [11:19:36] Wiredtape: look at release notes? [11:19:44] wtf is removeTabs? [11:19:46] js code? [11:20:20] Duesentrieb: how can i thank you for yourhelp? :) [11:20:51] tell me to get off irc and get studying :) [11:21:20] marvxxx: well, basically... be helpfull to others. on irc, on mediawiki.org, on wikipedia, on your wiki... [11:21:25] make the net a better place or something [11:22:17] or alpha-test devanywhere for me [11:22:19] *Werdna looks hopeful [11:24:14] Duesentrieb: always try to do that...thank you [11:25:31] Duesentrieb: removetabs is used to add/remove a tab in the p-cactions... [11:25:47] Duesentrieb: Get off IRC and get studying! :) [11:25:59] *Werdna slaps Duesentrieb around a bit with a large textbook [11:27:02] Release notes says nothing about it :( [11:27:58] *RemoveTabs is wrong, I meant ReplaceTabs() [11:28:07] so but now i have to get back on work i guess :) [11:32:25] Hello, i'm trying to make my wiki work for all browsers. I'm using monobook with a few alterations to colour, notably for links. this works perfectly in firefox. various IE users see totally different colours. I went through the IENFixes.css files in /skins/monobook and altered them to match main.css as best i could; I've touched LocalSettings.php to force a refresh, but they still see weird colours for links. does anyone have [11:36:44] Hello All [11:37:02] can you assist me if you are free? [11:37:18] how do u manage the users on Wiki? [11:39:33] *Werdna beeps. [11:39:36] please insert a quarter. [11:39:50] but seriously, what "management" do you want to do? [11:40:38] For rights management, Special:Userrights, for a list of users, Special:Listusers, to block a user, Special:Blockip, to see current blocks, Special:Ipblocklist, to see contributions by a user, Special:Contributions/User [11:40:42] etc etc [11:41:53] i mean from where i handle the users [11:42:23] you mean... physically? [11:42:59] is there any user manager on wiki? [11:43:04] there isn't a single place to manage users. [11:43:13] the only way i use is in the database [11:43:25] but there are multiple special pages, which you can use to accomplish different tasks [11:44:13]