[00:00:26] 03kim * r26422 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Copy.php: [00:00:26] Copy.php now does some attributes copying. [00:00:26] Will debug this first, then finish rest of attributes. [00:00:26] basic "this doesn't break anything else at least" commit [00:28:03] 03gmaxwell * r26423 10/trunk/tools/counter/fast_counter.c: Syncing up my local codebase [00:39:47] what is the default administrator user name? [00:39:56] I'm an idiot - I forgot to write down my admin username and password [00:56:38] MrWGW: you can always reset the password via the SQL interface [01:01:11] ah right, nvm, I fixed the problem [01:55:12] 03(mod) Request to change namespaces on fy.wiktionary.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6331 (10N/A) [02:03:19] jacol: If you still havent got it, you could add a new hook then commit it to the main code where you need it [03:05:35] 03(NEW) Special upload page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11565 major; highest; MediaWiki: Special pages; (shijualex) [03:06:29] 03(NEW) Special Upload pages in Malayalam Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11538 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (shijualex) [03:11:03] hi all, can anybody tell me how I can make the [edit] tag visible on my pages. I have a mediawiki installation & it doesn't display the [edit] hyperlink . Hence whenever I have to edit, I have to edit the whole page. [03:11:49] 03(mod) allow limited wikicode rendering via api.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11173 +comment (10vasilvv) [03:15:35] anyone have any idea what might cause a memory leak? (apache processes are ~160MB) [03:16:43] is it a memory leak, or just lots of memory usage [03:17:22] well i can't say for certain [03:17:48] i was just guessing a leak, because it seems to have started happening relatively recently [03:24:51] well, what have you changed. [03:25:07] mostly just css [03:25:33] we're going through the new skin line by line to see if there are any prospects there [03:35:37] hi [03:36:39] anyone know how to disable thing in the lefthand side of mediawiki?? am using CologneBlue skin. [03:36:54] I found we can do something in /languages/messages/MessagesEn.php [03:37:05] but not sure where to disable it [03:38:07] I just want to disable Browse,Edit,This page ... l [03:41:56] anyone ? [03:42:07] nobody uses CologneBlue ? [03:42:10] :-P [03:45:03] i want a cologneviolet [03:47:10] *Werdna tickles NotACow [03:47:20] Ma1: "thing on left hand side" [03:47:26] which bit is that? [03:47:49] yeah [03:48:41] TimStarling: what's the Url parameter for selecting a skin? [03:50:16] never mind, it's useskin [03:50:27] Ma1: try editing the skin file. [03:51:13] you mean CologneBlue.php [03:51:14] ? [03:51:59] I didn't find anything in that ( for disabling all those stuffs ) [03:52:13] I founf some thing in /languages/messages/MessagesEn.php [03:52:44] but anyone know where disable it from displaying ? [03:55:01] you will need to edit the skin file [03:56:38] Werdna: moo. [03:56:39] actually no [03:56:49] then ? [03:56:49] you can put into side-wide css .quickbar {display: none;} [03:57:07] oh [03:57:11] in which file [03:57:12] / [03:57:14] ? [03:57:46] in /skins/common ? [03:57:55] cologneblue.css [03:57:57] ? [03:58:24] Ma1: no, MediaWiki:cologneblue.css on your wiki [03:58:36] ah ok [04:14:41] Woot!!! [04:15:06] I edit cologneblue.css and added quickbar {display: none;} [04:15:11] that did the trick [04:15:18] thanks much Werdna [04:45:43] anyone familiar with flv extract [05:08:04] 03(NEW) Special:Mypage in URL doesn't allow other URL params - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11566 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (webmaster) [05:34:41] 03erik * r26424 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (App.php OmegaWiki/Copy.php OmegaWiki/SpecialCopy.php): [05:34:41] 1) Copying permission: From an internal POV, it's fine to call this [05:34:42] a copy permission, so going back to that. [05:34:42] 2) Add 'edit copy' tab for editing protected datasets. [05:34:42] Kim: I'm adding a warn= parameter to the URL for you to check on. [05:34:43] I'm also leaving out the dc2, it should use the [05:34:47] community DC when no dc is provided. [05:41:03] 03kim * r26425 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Copy.php: This copy works slightly [05:55:02] 03aaron * r26426 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: *Remove unused var [05:58:10] 03david * r26427 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtModel.php: History attribution and timestamp bug believed to be fixed for good. [06:12:23] 03aaron * r26428 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): [06:12:23] *Disallow unprivileged page moves [06:12:23] *Fix error causing review prompt to show for talk pages [06:13:08] 03david * r26429 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/LqtBaseView.php: older and newer links in thread history now actually work (not sure how this got through testing before...) [06:30:16] 03aaron * r26430 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Fetch fr_quality [06:45:13] 03david * r26431 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (25 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) [06:45:13] Merged revisions 26331-26430 via svnmerge from [06:45:13] svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [06:45:13] ........ [06:45:13] r26357 | tstarling | 2007-10-03 01:46:17 -0700 (Wed, 03 Oct 2007) | 6 lines [06:45:14] WARNING! NEEDS CAREFUL DEPLOYMENT [06:45:16] * Bug 9213: Fixed the plainly broken user_newtalk updating and caching scheme. I tried to keep my changes roughly performance-neutral, but the update on Wikimedia should be watched carefully for performance problems. [06:56:19] 03(NEW) bogus email error message when creating an account ( $wgSMTP only) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11567 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (stephen.f.lawrence) [07:01:30] <_wooz> lo [07:05:51] 03david * r26432 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (7 files in 2 dirs): some minor changes toward extensification. [07:38:11] 03amidaniel * r26433 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php: [07:38:11] API: Ensure it checks *only* the fast limit or the slow limit, not both. On fast [07:38:11] revision queries (those without content), was checking once against fast limit [07:38:11] and once against slow limit, and exploding if limit exceeded slow limit. [07:46:15] good morning; is there a way to browse your svn using Eclipse? [07:49:25] HSorgYves: If you install the subclipse extension, yes [07:52:42] amidaniel: ok thx, installing subclipse now [07:57:49] and now? [07:58:41] found it thx [07:58:52] 03(mod) Cannot rename/move images and other media files. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709 (10N/A) [07:59:18] 03(mod) Redirect on an image description page redirects, but the target page displays the image - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786 (10N/A) [07:59:46] 03(mod) Redirect on an image description page redirects, but the target page displays the image - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786 (10N/A) [08:48:37] 03(NEW) Special page SMWPageProperty not used, browsing broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11568 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mak) [08:56:01] 03mkroetzsch * r26434 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (21 files in 5 dirs): More autoloading, document autoloading in class docu [09:11:39] 04(REOPENED) Special Upload pages in Malayalam Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11538 (10robchur) [09:51:26] I know how to do "external links". Is there a way to link, outside the wiki, but to the same host without specifying the server? [09:51:42] [/foo Foo] doesn't work. [09:53:55] *enhydra suggests [{{SERVER}}/foo Foo] [09:54:34] suite. Thanks. [09:54:42] sweet. [09:54:44] it's early. [10:03:18] hi [10:22:39] Hello. I have a question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges <-- what is the +/- number between the parenthesis? [10:22:45] Just after the time. [10:23:05] number of bytes added/removed in the edit [10:23:27] Ah. Cool. [10:27:21] And another question: I'm trying to add the last 5 items from history to the article page (in a box). I was here yesterday and someone told me of some extensions that can be used to achive that. I thought my logging was on so I closed the IRC client before going home without writing down the names. Turns out my client wasn't logging and now I can't remember the names of the extensions. :) [10:28:13] if you remember the time you was there, I can search it in my logs [10:28:49] I don't remember exactly. Maybe you can search by my nickname? [10:29:10] It was yesterday around noon UTC I think. [10:31:35] evi|one: News + PageBy [10:31:45] no success :( noon UTC = morning of my local time [10:32:03] Thank you both. :) [10:39:53] erhhem [11:18:38] lo [11:57:20] hi there. I0m having problems with visualization, I think it's something related to css. can someone help me? [11:57:24] *I'm [11:58:46] Waldir, what's the problem? [12:00:07] Wiredtape: it looks like my skin changed overnight. I use monobook, and havent changed it, and I've cheched http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css&action=history and it wasnt edited since a month ago [12:01:02] I used to see a sans serif font, now I see a serifed one, perhaps Times; and the personal tools which used to be placed on the topright part of the page now show up in a sidebar [12:01:15] there's also a history sidebar, showing the last pages i've visited [12:01:42] it looks familiar but I cant reproduce it with any of the skins I have available in special:preferences [12:04:48] 03mkroetzsch * r26435 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php: Fixed wrong fname for DB-query [12:04:50] hmm.. [12:06:01] a history sidebar sounds like it is skin based, there would need to be some sort of extension or code involved.. you might want to check with pt.wikipedia.org admin's and see if they have done any work on the skin.. [12:06:48] I see the personal tools on the top right [12:07:13] That's exactly the problem. other people dont seem to see any difference [12:07:36] hi to all, i want to add to every page on the "Main" namespace (so normal page) some codes... for example i want to add the {{Special:Contributors/Article}} (contributors extension) automatcly to every page... there's a way to do that? [12:07:43] hmm.. no one else sees the history sidebar? [12:08:07] gabry80 take a look at the boilerplate extension.. [12:08:15] thanks [12:08:16] noone i have talked to. and I believe anyone would have posted it in the village pump [12:08:17] :-) [12:08:21] np [12:09:02] Are you using a special program to view wikipedia? like some sort of external editor? [12:09:20] no, plain firefox browser, as usual [12:10:44] well.. a history sidebar sounds like something that would have to be skin based, unless it "might" be possible to do it through js.. and so I have no idea what to tell you... did you ask in #wikipedia? [12:11:07] i never go there, it's too crowded :p [12:11:19] but i'll check monobook.css for recent changes :) [12:11:25] *monobook.js [12:11:45] hi to all...i would like to know if exist some ways to change or modify the edit form. to explain, i want to add an input (checkbox) to implement a sort of conditional save. How can I do This? [12:11:56] waldir, :) - are there several people using your username? [12:11:59] Wiredtape, i don't know if boilertape is extacly what i mean :-P [12:12:46] Wiredtape: I think there's a Waldir in italian wikipedia, and another in the german one. all the other Waldirs in wikimedia wikis are me [12:12:47] francesco, try looking at and see if you can hack it up into what you want: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditPageMultipleInputTextAreas [12:12:54] why do you ask? [12:13:31] thanks. [12:13:35] Waldir, what I meant was if your wikipedia username is used by someone else, that could explain some code being changed [12:14:04] gabry80: boilerplate does something similar, you could probably use it for what you need... unless I miss understood [12:14:12] Wiredtape, i will try to, thanks a lot. [12:14:37] np [12:15:10] gabry80, did you mean you would like to add this to only existing pages? or to new ones? [12:16:56] Wiredtape: what do you mean, like if someone used my accout to change my settings? [12:17:01] yes [12:17:10] both of them... all page in the main namespace... so old one and the one will be created.... if is impossible, since my wiki is pretty new, in the new page [12:17:18] I dont think so. besides, i checked in my preferences and the skin selected is the monobook.css [12:17:29] I'll check my personal monobook.js, anyway [12:19:12] no recent changes in [[User:Waldir/monobook.css]] or [[User:Waldir/monobook.js]] [12:19:14] :s [12:19:25] gabry80: well, boilerplate does this for new ones, and you could probably search for a bot that does this for existing pages [12:19:31] waldir, well there goes that theory [12:19:32] hi [12:19:39] lol [12:20:11] someone can help me with imagemap? [12:21:04] I dont know, but I have probably a bug in source code [12:21:55] look at this: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Solar_System [12:22:00] Whats the problem? [12:22:41] I wanna fix it in the center and also I wanna see data around (having right now IE 6) [12:24:06] i wrote a really basic extension to replace some javascript stuff on wikinews, and i would appreciate any feedback: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Zachary/CommentPages [12:29:55] if i want to add in a page the name of the page itself, there a way to do it? i need it for the {{Special:Contributors/XXX}} extension, where there is xxx i need to add the name of the page where i want to add the code... so with the boilerplate extensio i will add it on every page [12:30:07] Juan_de_Vojnikov, the image is too big for the small div you placed it in... therefore it start at the correct position but then extends beyond it [12:30:22] gabry80, {{PAGENAME}} [12:30:29] thanks again [12:30:31] or {{FULLPAGENAME}} [12:31:03] full page name use the real url of the page? and the pagename only the "name" of the voice? [12:31:58] fullpagename gives "bla_bla_bla" and pagename would give "bla bla bla" (spaces turn to underscore and other caption differences) [12:32:06] okok [12:32:07] thanks [12:32:39] np [12:32:57] Wiretape: so I change its resolution in px? [12:33:11] hi [12:33:32] i upgraded some days ago from 1.7 to 1.11. Including a server change from debian to ubuntu [12:33:35] Zach, just so I know and understand better, why do comments need a comment namespace (I haven't yet looked at the code) - do you save all comment data in Comment:PageName ? [12:33:49] Juan_de_Vojnikov, or change the div size? [12:34:02] now i am realizing that i have a problem with the Article Topics, if they contain a german special sign like ü/ä or similar [12:34:04] Wiredtape: i thought the main difference was that fullpagename included the namespace [12:34:39] i had luck, as its only 5 articles with suc hstrange sign in the topic / article name...but i am asking myself: what is the best way to fix that issue ? [12:34:40] Waldir, it might, I forget :) [12:35:00] xD [12:35:03] Wiredtape: for example, at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter%3A_Take_away_women's_votes_because_%22women_are_voting_so_stupidly%22 [12:35:12] I dont recall quite surely, either [12:35:21] odb|fidel, well what exactly is the problem ... ? is the character gone, or has it changed? [12:35:52] its changed to some strange other icon [12:35:53] there's an extra tab for commentary on the news itself, not for discussion about the actual page [12:36:15] i.e. Ä is now i.e. A" including some frnech looking signs [12:36:46] currently, it uses JS to add the tab, and AJAX to query api.php in the background to see if the pages exists (to make the tab red, etc) [12:36:48] Wiredtape: i guess fastest method is just changing those 5 article names by hand....as its only related with article names itself. not the content [12:36:50] Wiretape: so I think we have fixed it: http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Solar_System&diff=168760&oldid=168755 [12:37:10] but how to i rename an article. I see only the move option [12:38:19] odb|fidel, personally I think it would be better to resolve the problem, probably it's something to do with the way unicode/german is interpreted... might want to file a bug report or something like it... [12:38:45] Wiredtape: well, how can i help resolving it ? [12:38:58] old db was UTF, new DB is UTF [12:39:06] from mysql aspect [12:39:24] and i havent seen any other language/font-setting [12:39:54] odb|fidel_ , go to mediawiki.org and file a bug report... (look for bugzilla) although I am not sure it really is a bug, it might be something they chose to do.. but file it and they'll look into it [12:40:10] Zach, one sec.. :) [12:40:41] Juan_de_Vojnikov, looks good, happy editing.. [12:42:41] Wiredtape: ok, gonna take a look there [12:42:58] but i am interessted how you would solve that issue itself [12:43:27] moving the article to a fixed name ? using this method i would still have the old-broken article with a redirect....not the best case [12:43:45] Zach, extension looks good, but while you are at it I think it would be nice to make this extension more global.. ie: make an extension that allows adding\removing tabs in general, that are controlled by a special page or some other way.. (you're not very far off from it already) - and if you really want to make it amazing (in my opinion) combine certain tabs with formating options (such as commenting - with post date and other things) [12:44:29] odb|fidel_, I think I saw something about a rename extension or a different method.. did you take a look at extensions? [12:44:45] not till now [12:44:51] ok, gonna search for it [12:45:02] Wiredtape: I see the link that you show me, but i don't need it. I would like to know if is possible to change the EditButtons in the bottom of EditPage..please tell me. [12:45:06] thank you Wiredtape [12:47:04] the extension uses medtho of the class EditPage::showEditForm but is not possible to edit 'EditButtons' by this class. [12:47:05] francesco, you would need to look at code, I think last time I asked this they told me that the actual edit page was spread out along several classes (I might be wrong) - so you are going to have to look for it and where it is defined.. [12:47:43] francesco, another thought that just occured to me would be to edit the "edit" system message and use some "form" extension to add a checkbox.. [12:47:50] such as simpleforms (extension) [12:49:00] oh... [12:49:02] ok. [12:49:15] but i am not sure that would work ... :) [12:50:33] thanks guay, bye [12:51:43] Wiredtape, emh...ok, no problem, you are very helpful... (???: i dont know if this is the correct way to say what i'm saying, but i hope that you understand this) [12:54:01] in italy, public schools don't teach very well english or other european languages, and television is only in italian...sorry, i hope that i the future i will improve my english language [12:54:43] francesco, I am not sure I do understand you.. but hope it helps... [12:56:47] :) [13:03:35] 03(mod) allow limited wikicode rendering via api.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11173 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:07:24] anyone know how to turn of the image next to link thing when linking to external links in mediawiki ? [13:07:41] 03(NEW) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Bryan.TongMinh) [13:08:26] hi again to all, i'm trying to install this extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DiscussionThread_Article i have mediawiki 1.11 but i didn't understand what extacly i need to do for this extension with my 1.11 version [13:08:31] spectie, look at the faq I think I saw it in there somewhere [13:10:49] hmm [13:10:51] doesn't seem to be [13:12:20] hello all [13:13:15] the 'recent changes' irc channels that the wikimedia foundation maintains, are part of the mediawiki core, or are they something that is unique to wikipedia? [13:13:50] i.e., can media wiki configured to do the same in my own installation? [13:14:01] yep [13:14:04] it's in the FAQ [13:14:07] I think [13:14:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [13:14:15] otherwise, have a search around meta and mediawiki.org [13:15:32] i'm asking becuase i'm writing some code to wrap it, and i was wondering where that code belonged - to mediawiki to wikipedia [13:16:02] zazadude, I am not sure if it's in the core, but I saw an extension that does something similar... [13:16:17] no, it is in core [13:16:24] although there is a helper application needed [13:16:37] hi @all, can I disable the automatic replacement of a
-tag with a
-tag?
[13:16:45] 	so, the format that the 'recent changes' channels use is an 'official' mediawiki protocol?
[13:17:02] 	yeah, there's $wgUDPRCPort or something
[13:17:28] 	and then you just do nc -u -l -p  | irssi -d on the target computer
[13:17:31] 	and you're in business
[13:18:32] 	who sets the colors? mediawiki?
[13:18:53] 	I think so
[13:19:03] 	you can change them in the code if you must.
[13:19:17] 	can you point me to that section in the code?
[13:19:25] 	moment
[13:19:29] 	thanks :)
[13:20:51] 	RecentChange::getIRCLine, /includes/RecentChange.php, line 532
[13:21:28] 	03(NEW) prop= modules should have limit parameter - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11570 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (roan.kattouw)
[13:21:46] 	Werdna: thanks!
[13:22:04] 	on that node, bedtime
[13:27:00] 	03(mod) Fetching revision history fails without error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11430  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:28:31] 	hi again to all, i'm trying to install this extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DiscussionThread_Article i have mediawiki 1.11 but i didn't understand what extacly i need to do for this extension with my 1.11 version
[13:29:28] 	hmm
[13:29:43] 	more specific
[13:29:46] 	what didn't you understand?
[13:30:09] 	if you read there's written that with 1.11 you don't need to patch anythink
[13:30:26] 	but then it said you have to patch a file
[13:30:33] 	i have to patch it or not?
[13:30:53] 	03(mod) Cannot rename/move images and other media files. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709  (10l8qjvx002)
[13:32:44] 	found it
[13:32:49] 	should i write it anywhere?
[13:33:17] 	03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[13:41:56] 	Hi to all, if I paste a div-tag in my user-page mediawiki renders the div-tag correctly. But when I paste the same div-tag on the start page, mediawiki renders a 
-tag instead of my div-tag :( Can anybody help me?
[13:44:01] 	vesparun200: it must be caused by the context you are using the div in. got a link?
[13:44:40] 	03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[13:44:41] 	no,there is no link in the div-tag
[13:45:08] 	yust a Users
[13:45:15] 	no, i mean please give me a link to thatpage so i can have a look
[13:45:39] 	hmm, it is a internal server
[13:46:17] 	03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:46:20] 	no external connectivity
[13:46:41] 	vesparun200: copy the relevant bit of wikitext here: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesparun200
[13:47:10] 	see if it works there. copy the entire page, if neccessary
[13:47:10] 	ok, one moment
[13:49:42] 	Duesentrieb_: at http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesparun200 the code works and on my internal server it works also fine but not on the start page :(
[13:50:21] 	vesparun200: copy the entire page
[13:51:21] 	how can I do that? copy and paste the code out of the editor?
[13:52:00] 	yep
[13:53:17] 	no, the html-code has no div tags...
[13:53:23] 	err?
[13:53:32] 	copy the wiki text. not the html code
[13:53:40] 	the entire wiki textof you start page.
[13:53:44] 	or is that all it has?
[13:53:50] 	yepp, that have I done!
[13:53:55] 	o_O
[13:54:06] 	really!
[13:54:30] 	I work with a mediawiki 1.7 on a ubuntu server
[13:54:31] 	leasing spaces have a special meaning in mediawiki
[13:54:44] 	don't start lines with spaces unless you want pre-formatted text 
[13:54:51] 	ok
[13:55:00] 	(in combination with the table stuff it seems to have a rather odd effect)
[13:55:05] 	but why does it work on other pages?
[13:55:13] 	also, avoid html tagsif possible. use wiki syntax for tables
[13:55:50] 	i have no idea why it doesn't work - the leading spaces have no imapct on the 
really [13:56:38] what happens if you use span instead of div, btw= [13:56:39] ? [13:56:51] moment, i will try [13:58:01] span works fine [13:58:07] but no div?! [13:58:36] hello. does anyone know how I can add a large number of new articles into a mediawiki database? [13:59:08] oh, wait, a span goes automaticlly in a

... [13:59:13] hmm, strange [13:59:23] vesparun200: no. the

is generated for all text blocks [13:59:33] ok [13:59:44] block are spearated by blank lines, or by starting a new construct [14:00:21] ok, that's fine. should i try to delete the page and start at a new page? [14:00:29] panos: i think there's an import script for plain text files in the maintenance directory. otherwise, build a mediawiki-dump compatible xml, and import it using importDump.php (or the Special:Import page, if it's not too much) [14:00:32] how do I get print_r working, it works in my test apps, but not through mediawiki, any ideas? [14:00:53] vesparun200: it should have nothing to do with the page as such. generally, just avoid html markup. [14:01:03] great. I will try it. thanks! [14:01:33] vesparun200: i don't know what went wrong for you, but it's likely related to something (tidy?) trying to fix html that got odd when mixing explicite html and wiki syntax [14:02:12] >the Special:Import page, if it's not too much: Do you mean if it is not a large number of articles? I'm talking about 100.000 articles. [14:02:52] then use the command line tools [14:03:01] pushing that over http is going to time out [14:03:28] consider using mwdumper (java based, separate install) for faster import of xml dumps [14:03:45] Duesentrieb_; thank you! i will try a little bit more... [14:06:38] does anyone know how to get debugging info printed to the browser print_r() etc...they aren't appearing for me [14:08:25] Duesentrieb: > then use the command line tools: Can you please explain? What is command line tools? [14:09:58] tools you use from the command line. aka shell (or, for windows users, "dos box") [14:10:10] what kind of access do you have to the web host? [14:10:52] Server is accessible by me at root level. [14:11:44] I'm familiar with command line, I just do not know the commands. [14:11:54] panos: then you should know what a shell is, i hope. go into the maintenance dir on mediawiki's installation dir. there are several php scripts there. Those are not for running from the web, but from the command line. [14:12:18] for example: > php importDump.php MyDump.xml will import MyDump.xml into your wiki [14:12:46] most of them should output a help message when started without parameters - or look at the top of the php files [14:12:52] or ask google how to use them [14:13:11] i think importing of dumps is also covered in the backup manual [14:13:13] !backup [14:13:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [14:13:32] Hi there! How can I rename the default pages/links (Privacy Policy, About , Disclaimers) after a mediawiki-installation? [14:13:35] not sure about the importTextFiles.php stuff (or whatever its called) [14:13:42] ok. Can you guide me on where I can find a dump file structure? [14:13:45] so I've got this hook: $wgHooks['WatchArticle'][] = 'foo'; when I define foo() do I have to do function foo($user,$article) or are those variables automatically available to the function? [14:14:11] I can change php wait time so not to time out. [14:14:21] Shodan_: edit MediaWiki:mainpage to change the main page. the others are also controlled by system messages (i.e. pages in the MediaWiki: namespace), but i don't know their names [14:14:28] you can search through special:allmessages [14:15:00] panos: believe me, you don't want to do it via http. timeout doesn't apply on the command line. [14:15:39] panos: the easiest way to get to know the structure is to look at an example: go to the Special:Export pagem, enter a couple of page names, and look at the XML it spits out. it's fairly trivial. [14:16:12] Thanx...I'll try [14:16:34] this is helpful, thanks. about time out, I mean to change php.ini time out value, what do you think? [14:17:13] panos: what for? [14:18:34] I'm asking if changing php.ini time out value will solve the time out problem using importdump.php script. [14:19:14] and as i said before: there is no timeout problem when using the command line script [14:19:39] sorry. you really helped me, thanks. [14:20:08] it would only exist if you where using the *form* on Special:Import - and in that case, the php timeout probably wouldn't be the problem, but rather a timeout on the http or even tcp level. [14:20:18] (not to mention max post size) [14:21:58] Is there any size problem? content vars from few bytes to several Ks. [14:22:55] default limit is 4MB per page, i think [14:23:26] ok, it is not a problem, thank you for your help. [14:28:56] XML file include some information known when exporting bu not known when importing, for example "page:id, page:revision, page:timestamp etc". Do you know how I can deal with these. [14:38:25] panos: i don't think id and revision-id are used dureing import. i'd simply make a counter giving each page a different id, and using it also as the revision id. [14:38:43] panos: as for the timestamp, set it to whatever you like. make sure you have the right format, though [14:40:26] ok, I will try and see. thanks. [14:40:50] 03(mod) Add type parameter to ModifyUITemplate function calls - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9691 (10seventowers) [14:40:52] 03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:41:26] panos: test with a small set of pages (10 or something) [14:41:43] ok, I will do as suggested. [14:42:44] 03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569 (10roan.kattouw) [14:51:23] daily notice of bug 5678 [14:53:04] 03(mod) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:53:24] seems like I'm having troubles clearly describing bugs today [14:53:54] AzaTht: :D [14:54:37] 5678 is a nice number [14:54:57] lch: need to push for the bug [14:55:04] hate that bug [14:55:10] needds to be fixed [14:55:22] 03(ASSIGNED) Login should return the cookie prefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11569 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:55:42] should add a bug "fix bug 5678" [14:56:01] does anyone know something about rewriting? [14:56:21] tugori: depends on what you mean [14:56:29] I can rewrite a text yes [14:57:13] about rewriting conditions of url's [14:57:32] that I don't know what you mean by [14:57:32] sry i do not know exactly what it means myself [14:57:38] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/rewriteguide.html [14:57:41] soemthing like that^^ [14:59:14] do you know about it? [15:04:34] . [15:04:58] Hello guys. I realise you don't support hird party extensions, but can anyone tell me if they run pagesecurity extension with the latest mediawiki? I see there's no specific patch for that version. [15:05:21] bonsoir à tous! :) [15:05:28] Salut. [15:05:29] c'est bien un chan francophone ici? [15:05:32] oui parfait! :p [15:05:40] AzaTht: ? [15:05:43] bon alors j'explique mon ptit soucis! ^^ [15:05:50] Non je suis desolait. [15:06:01] its impolite to speak french in an english channel [15:06:01] Je ne peux parler francais. :( [15:06:14] j'aimerais supprimer le lien vers les pages spéciales lorsqu'un utilisateur n'est pas loggué, je pensais pouvoir le faire par mediawiki:sidebar [15:06:18] I was just saying I can't speak it. :P [15:06:19] sauf que ça marche pas [15:06:27] une idée pour m'aiguiller? [15:06:41] speak english [15:07:10] is it a french or an english chan? [15:07:18] English my friend. [15:07:32] well, it's not so evil if you really can't speak english - the problem is rather that few people here understand french... [15:07:39] ok sorry! :p my english is really bad so can try it instead! ;) [15:07:49] Good luck, I bet my French is worse. :P [15:08:29] i would like delete or hide the "specialpages link" in the toolbox if user isn't logged [15:09:13] i was thinking i cna do that if i editing the mediawiki:sidebar page [15:09:19] but not... [15:09:25] AzaTht: Do you know about it? [15:09:33] have you an idee to do that? [15:09:56] do you understand? [15:10:38] Matmat: the toolbox is automatic. you can't edit it. [15:10:39] Matmat: you can edit the php skin.. [15:10:48] jlerner: even then it's tricky. [15:10:52] agree [15:10:53] arf [15:10:58] thx all! ;) [15:11:07] i come back if i need it! ^^ [15:11:09] Matmat: you can try to hide the entry using css [15:11:22] yes Duesentrieb_ i try it! ;) [15:11:39] i say you if its a succes! :p [15:11:45] (sorry for bad english! ;) ) [15:13:13] sorry for no french :) [15:14:06] ^^ [15:14:15] i come back! xD [15:15:05] Does anyone know of a simple way to hide the history of a page? [15:15:22] Based on groups. [15:15:51] Does anyone know something like that: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/rewriteguide.html [15:16:19] if i edit CSS users who change skin can see the link to special pages. So i 've chosse to do nothing, it isn't so important if they see this link [15:16:46] The special pages link won't matter to users that don't have any special access really. [15:16:52] SO you are right, it's not important. [15:16:58] ^^ [15:17:00] :p [15:20:10] maznaz: most special pages can be used by everyone [15:21:45] But nothing dangerous to the administration of the wiki. [15:21:49] That I can think of. [15:22:16] So nobody knows of an extension to hide the history anyway? [15:22:28] tugori: no Im sorry [15:22:58] maznaz: history is an essential part of most licensing schemes. so, no. [15:23:13] basically, it must be visible to propertly attribute the contributors [15:23:52] Well it's a feature of the PageSecurity addon, but that one isn't up to date. [15:23:56] So it isn't completely unheard of. [15:24:11] someone know about this? http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/rewriteguide.html [15:24:23] well, yes, extensions for unwise things exist [15:24:32] Why do you keep asking about apache rewriting? [15:24:43] tugori: give me 10 minute to finish the chapter, then i'll help you [15:25:00] ok, (thought you do not know about it=?) [15:25:07] I've used mod_rewrite plenty. [15:25:25] tugori: i never did that particular thing, but i can probably understand the manual without too much trouble [15:26:01] well i tried, but i did not understand anything. but go on with maznaz, i do not want to disturb your talk [15:26:12] We are finished, thanks. [15:26:44] mod_rewrite looks a lot more complicated than it actually is. [15:26:53] But then so does everything that uses regular expressions. [15:27:05] he doesn't even need a regex [15:27:14] he needs a hostname based rewritecond [15:27:18] What's he trying to do? [15:27:19] so, if you have used that before... [15:27:28] i have got two domains which direct into the same folder www.mugenpedia.de and www.magic-mugen.de now i want www.mugenpedia.de to redirect to www.mugenpedia.de/en but magic-mugen.de should stay the same [15:27:42] if thats correct, maybe i express myself wrongly [15:27:54] Okay. [15:28:04] And you use apache 1.3? [15:28:29] 2.0 [15:28:34] says the header :) [15:28:49] i dont know [15:28:53] Do you have www.mugenpedia.de as a separae vhost pointing to the same location or a serveralias? [15:28:54] where? [15:28:58] Thank you Duesentrieb_ :) [15:29:03] Apache/2.0.59 [15:29:16] its the same host [15:29:32] Okay, can you show me the directive that has that name in please? [15:29:47] how do you mean? [15:29:55] tugori are you acutally running a redirect [15:30:47] actually im running this: [15:30:48] RewriteEngine On [15:30:48] RewriteBase / [15:30:48] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [15:30:48] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [15:30:48] RewriteRule ^en/(.*)$ mugenpedia/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [15:30:49] so if you point your browser @ www.magic-mugen.de ... it auto redirects and the url is now www.mugenpedia.de [15:30:50] RewriteRule ^en/*$ en/ [L,QSA] [15:30:52] RewriteRule ^de/(.*)$ mugenpedia_de/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] [15:30:54] RewriteRule ^de/*$ de/ [L,QSA] [15:31:03] i dont know if that is what you mean [15:31:11] "Don't paste text to the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste/" -the topic [15:31:32] ok, next time i will do [15:31:41] meh i know an easier way w/ lighttpd [15:32:11] so thats just because i have got a multilingual wikipedia [15:33:49] nevermind guys, i'll walk him through [15:33:56] i alread got him through the rewriting. [15:34:05] I'm just trying to remember if he can just use mod_alias :P [15:34:07] so the redirect shoulldn't be too hard [15:34:20] maznaz: much easier to use mod_rewrite. [15:34:23] I can't remember if you can use a hostname in the alias directive. [15:34:41] It doesn't get much easier than Alias www.hostname.com/ www.hostname.com/en/ [15:34:44] maznaz: aliasing wouldn't work. it would break wiki urls. he needs a real redirect [15:34:47] But that might not work [15:34:53] Hmm okay. [15:34:59] no, that's equivalent to rewirting, not rdirecting [15:35:05] tugori: --> priv [15:35:14] ok [15:55:10] Hello, I'm trying to write a MediaWiki plugin to push HTML copies of MediaWiki pages into our application, and I'm getting stuck on the markup [15:56:12] It seems to be hard-coded into Parser.php and Math.php how the .png should be inserted into the document, so I'm getting a few tags in my output that point to images that don't exist on the new server [15:56:37] Does anyone know how I can change this behavior from within a plugin (i.e. without directly modifying Parser.php or Math.php?) [15:56:49] i'll be back! :p [15:56:57] hmm [15:57:29] brion-office: Can we have a executive decision regarding bug 6545? [15:57:32] please [15:57:33] i'ld like rename default groups, do you know how can i do it? [15:58:46] notjacob: use action=parse to generate html snippets, or use dumpHtml from the command line. this should be all you need, and those also trigger the automatic rendering if needed. [15:59:44] Duesentrieb_: where do I use action=parse? [16:00:09] notjacob: an url parameter. and it's action=render, sorry [16:00:32] notjacob: example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothing?action=render [16:01:10] well, i'm trying to do it automatically from a special page [16:03:01] so I've created a new Skin, and written my special page etc. [16:03:25] no body to help me? [16:03:30] $parserOutput = $wgParser->parse($rev->getText(), $title, $popts, true, true, $rev->getID()); [16:08:19] and everything is working great; my skin class handles makeThumbLink2, makeImageLink2, etc [16:08:41] by uploading the image to the application and rewriting the link to point to the uploaded image [16:09:06] but the tag is rendering its own tags internally, and i just can't figure out how to rewrite it [16:19:49] hey, i've just configured mediawiki (after some db issues) but there is no localsettings.php file in /config [16:20:04] i got the green "Environment checked. You can install MediaWiki." text [16:20:06] but no config file... [16:21:27] Moniker42: did you enter all the paramters ans click "Install" ? [16:21:36] yes [16:21:52] i'll try again, because i had some problems... [16:22:03] and no error reported ? [16:22:43] didn't seem to... [16:22:52] two secs, i'm trying the config thing again [16:24:32] oh, i had another database error [16:25:16] "mysql1034.servage.net is not a valid database name" [16:25:30] enter than into mysql host [16:25:35] yea [16:26:03] what does the database name look like then? [16:26:10] 03nikerabbit * r26436 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files): * Rewrote special:magic to be more sane [16:26:12] i can't find it anywhere... [16:26:31] Moniker42: you have too make one in your site control panel [16:28:55] MinuteElectron, i did that [16:29:12] it just has username and password... no name =\ [16:29:32] *Moniker42 goes wading through the control panel pages... [16:30:09] yes, it's the same as the username for it [16:30:14] but it's not working =\ [16:33:28] 03aaron * r26437 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): [16:33:28] *Tweak log messages to show links in RC [16:33:28] *Make stable version log for config changes. Show fragment at stabilization page. [16:35:59] MinuteElectron, ialex i'm still getting the error "Something's not quite right yet; make sure everything below is filled out correctly." [16:36:33] Moniker42: there's a red message at the right of a box wehre the error occurs [16:37:01] ialex, oh sorry... [16:37:06] i forgot to enter some details at the top... [16:37:13] 03(mod) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 (10seventowers) [16:37:15] i was heading straigtht for the databases stuff [16:38:14] okay, i'm getting "connection failed" next to the "database host: mysql1047.servage.net" [16:39:05] Moniker42: entred correctly the port number [16:39:08] ? [16:39:20] yes [16:39:42] could the problem be that mediawiki doesn't like that the database's name and username are the same? [16:40:24] i think mediawiki doesn't check this [16:45:23] 03(FIXED) Creating internationalization of Special: Magic in Translate extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11554 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [16:47:45] ialex, i had a space at the start of the server name [16:48:19] Moniker42: this can explain why there was a problem :) [16:48:32] ialex, i can't believe i just spent half an afternoon on that [16:48:38] Moniker42: there is a space at the start of that server name [16:48:48] there was a short pause, i fixed it, everything worked [16:48:58] and then i headbutted the wall, and now i have a headache [17:20:46] erg : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Livolsju [17:29:42] 03(mod) Media Descriptions Imported From Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11289 (10seventowers) [17:30:40] plop [17:30:50] i've a little question [17:30:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgHashedUploadDirectory [17:31:36] if i set it on "false" what's the used directory structure? [17:31:57] (do you understand? i've bad english) [17:32:09] i understand matmat [17:32:16] probably http://your-wiki.tld/images/image.png or so [17:32:43] ok [17:33:23] the hashed directory seems that it creates a directory for every articles? [17:33:40] (articles? :/ pages if you prefer) [17:33:57] the hashed directory is quite confusing...not sure if it has /anything/ to do with articles actually [17:33:58] To complete the installation, move config/LocalSettings.php to the parent directory. [17:34:08] but there's no localsettings.php in the config dir! >.< [17:34:28] brb [17:35:16] 03aaron * r26438 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage_body.php): [17:35:16] *Try not to spam RC with reviews [17:35:16] *Enable fairly normal patrolling of non-reviewable pages [17:35:35] Moniker42, the localsettings it perhaps allready at wiki's root [17:35:54] (sorry for bad english i'm french! :p ) [17:36:42] the hashed directory is quite confusing...not sure if it has /anything/ to do with articles actually >>>>>>>> sorry i don't understand it can you explain with other words? :/ [17:36:57] um, no? [17:38:00] ok Jack_Phoenix google help me a little! :p [17:38:12] i think i've understand! :p [17:38:16] Matmat: hash might not be linked to do with articles [17:38:32] ok thanks notjacob ! ^^ [17:39:45] but i don't understand another point: what's interest of hashed directory? [17:40:26] perhaps for filesystems that have slow linear access [17:40:34] like ext3 [17:44:39] ok [17:44:42] thx all! :) [17:46:16] or for security [17:48:26] MinuteElectron, upload dir is protected, you can't list its. [17:49:47] So? [17:50:22] so if there is pictures or dir it's th same [17:50:23] if they were named after the image name then it would be easy for elite h4x0rz to get something you don't want them to: e.g. if the wiki was read-protected [17:50:26] no? [17:51:06] what's mean "e.g." ? [17:51:21] e.g. example given [17:51:25] ok [17:51:39] yes you're right [17:51:46] notjacob, i'm 18 and speak fluent English... and i've actually never thought "what does eg actually stand for?" :P [17:51:57] 'im french! :p [17:52:31] haha [17:52:32] yeah [17:52:35] i.e. is even more confusing [17:52:42] It does not mean example given. [17:52:48] It means example gratia. [17:52:50] i know n. b. [17:52:53] It's latin. [17:52:56] oh... [17:52:57] interesting. [17:52:59] they're all latin [17:53:01] And i.e is id est. [17:53:03] Indeed. [17:53:11] id est - That is [17:53:16] NB means "nota beni" or something similar meaning "note this, very important" [17:53:38] i. e. exist in french, with same signification [17:53:57] and i think it's nota bene [17:54:10] it's italian no? [17:55:10] merriam-webster says nota bene [17:58:11] <_das> Hi...is there a quick way to find the number of page views for a page in mediawiki? [17:58:43] _das, you could add a circa-1998 hit counter? :) [17:58:49] <_das> heh [17:59:03] <_das> well, i'd assume mediawiki has those stats somewhere... [17:59:43] i'm having bother getting MW installed [17:59:48] it says "Creating LocalSettings.php..." [18:00:10] and it seems to have completed okay, but localsettings.php is not in config or in wiki [18:00:57] _das: Article::getCount() if you're looking for a way to find it from the code [18:01:15] <_das> i'm looking for a way to find it by directing someone to a URL [18:01:21] hm [18:01:32] <_das> or embedding something in a page to get the count [18:01:33] it's in the database, page.page_counter [18:02:25] <_das> hmm [18:02:39] <_das> and how could I effectively access that from a wiki page and/or URL? [18:02:45] i'm looking [18:02:50] <_das> i'm looking as well [18:03:03] the only place I see it actually used is in Special:Statistics [18:03:06] <_das> but couldn't find anything, except references to the fact that it exists, and thus came here [18:03:14] <_das> it's also on popular pages [18:03:21] yeah, and Special:Popular Pages [18:03:24] <_das> but how does something else use it [18:03:31] you'd have to write some PHP to add that [18:03:48] <_das> yeah, and I don't have access to the server itself [18:03:54] <_das> just the mediawiki instance [18:04:08] you have access to the .php in your mediawiki directory? [18:04:28] <_das> no...I only have access to mediawiki via the web (albeit as an admin) [18:04:34] oh [18:04:35] <_das> but not to the filesystem of the server or the server itself [18:05:04] <_das> i can have the team that manages the server make the change(s), but I was hoping there was a way I could do something [18:05:40] _das: try the API? [18:05:42] <_das> the other issue is that Special:Popularpages doesn't even show this page, given that it was created in the format Foo:Bar [18:06:04] <_das> so i was hoping to access Foo:Bar's stats directly somehow [18:06:50] I think the API can do it. [18:06:51] _das: All popularpages does is count up backlinks -- you can do that pretty easily with the API or Special:Whatlinkshere [18:07:07] notjacob: No, we don't have that "exact" function implemented [18:07:13] okay [18:08:07] <_das> backlinks> [18:08:11] <_das> i thought it was page views [18:08:29] _das: No, pageviews can be found out quite easily though :) [18:08:34] so does anyone know why localsettings.php has not been generated? [18:08:35] Scroll down to the bottom of the screen [18:08:52] haha, I see it actually [18:08:53] Moniker42: Did the install complete without error? [18:08:57] amidaniel, yes [18:08:58] <_das> But where does that come from? [18:09:06] your skin shows it [18:09:08] _das: It's stored in the sql database [18:09:12] <_das> I mean, can I duplicate whatever that is in another wiki page [18:09:16] <_das> ok [18:09:25] <_das> and there is no way to get at it with wiki markup or another URL? [18:09:46] Moniker42: LocalSettings.php is generated in the "config" folder .. are you sure that it's not in there? [18:09:55] amidaniel, yes [18:10:11] only index.php and index.php5 are in that folder [18:10:25] <_das> amidaniel: if Special:Popularpages counts backlinks, why does it say "1. Blah (XX,XXX views)"? [18:10:30] Moniker42: Run the install again -- the only reason it wouldn't have been generated is if something went wrong during the install [18:10:45] amidaniel, http://www.moniker42.com/wiki/index.php [18:10:59] <_das> I thought Special:Mostlinked was links... [18:11:42] Moniker42: LocalSettings.php is in the config directory O.o [18:11:57] simply mv config/LocalSettings.php . [18:12:07] amidaniel, why isn't smartFTP picking it up? [18:12:11] stupidFTP >.< [18:12:28] Moniker42: heh, dunno .. it is there though [18:12:30] http://www.moniker42.com/wiki/config/LocalSettings.php [18:13:10] _das: Just a second [18:13:11] amidaniel, i'll try with fireftp... [18:14:32] hmmm [18:14:37] amidaniel, it works now, thanks! :D [18:14:39] _das: You're right, it is counting page views. It only survey $wgContentNamespaces however; if you want the "foo" namespace to be included in that list, simply add it to $wgContentNamespaces [18:14:44] Moniker42: No problem :) [18:20:53] <_das> amidaniel: got it...so anything created in the format Something:Somethingelse won't be counted unless "Something" is included in the namepaces, otherwise it is only the root namespace [18:21:15] <_das> otherwise, every page will always have its own views at the bottom regardless [18:22:06] _das: Indeed [18:23:46] i have got a question. what permissions does your localsettings.php have? [18:23:48] 600 ? [18:25:25] tugori: Should be ug+rw o+r [18:27:00] could you tell me what value that would be please? [18:27:39] I'm looking for a way to include custom HTML into the design without resorting to editing .php... I've played with MediaWiki:Sidebar and MediaWiki:Monobook.css, but it's not enough.. I want to add an image and some javascript. Is there a (good) way to do this? [18:27:43] tugori: 664 [18:28:08] thx [18:28:25] what if 600? [18:28:30] would that be negative? [18:29:02] That would be what? 644, I believe? [18:29:09] I was always bad with the conversion :) [18:29:30] <_das> amidaniel: is there a way to include all namespaces by default, or does any new Something: need to be added? [18:29:52] erm .. 664 [18:29:58] *amidaniel tosses notjacob a cookie :) [18:30:06] *notjacob munches [18:30:17] _das: You can; that's usually not a good idea though :) [18:32:06] <_das> why's that? how many hierarchical namespaces are there? [18:33:08] how do i set mediawiki to allow image uploads? [18:35:00] Moniker42: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Image_uploads [18:35:26] thanks notjacob [18:35:34] *Matmat is away: nex [18:36:59] !namespaces | _das [18:37:10] @search .* [18:37:10] Results: [download, extensions, faq, hidetoc, highlight, imagemap, multiplewiki, package, purge, rights, sidebar, subpages, subversion, support, syntax, tex, tias, upgrade, usergroups, welcome] [18:37:25] We had something on namespaces ... hold up [18:37:32] @search namespaces [18:37:32] Results: [extranamespace, subpages] [18:37:34] @search anemspace [18:37:34] Results: [] [18:37:39] !extranamespaces | _das [18:37:45] !extranamespace | _das [18:37:45] _das : To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at . [18:37:51] bletch [18:38:04] _das: Read up on namespaces on www.mediawiki.org :) [18:39:22] !namespaces is For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [18:39:22] Successfully added keyword: namespaces [18:39:31] !ns alias namespaces [18:39:31] Successfully added alias: ns [18:41:22] amidaniel: how to list aliases? [18:43:20] minute: erm .. I think I threw something in .. just a sec [18:44:17] k [18:44:55] minute: Nope, nothing in there to list aliases. It's on my todo list :) [18:46:08] why 664? [18:46:12] sorrry was absent^^ [18:46:31] "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." [18:46:33] help? ^ [18:46:49] i mean my localsettings.php why should i give it permission 664? [18:46:50] Moniker42: chmod the directory so your apache user can write to it [18:47:08] that it is writeable by group and can be read by all? [18:47:21] notjacob, is the dir /images? [18:47:31] amidaniel: if only i knew java.. [18:48:03] Moniker42: it's whatever is set in $wgUploadPath [18:48:07] notjacob, yes that worked, thanks :) [18:48:13] or $wgUploadDirectory [18:48:20] k good :) [18:49:59] _das, by the way did you notice that mediawiki says "This page has been accessed x times." at the bottom of every page? [18:50:14] minute: Now's as good a time as any to learn it :) [18:51:23] that it is writeable by group and can be read by all? [18:51:26] i mean my localsettings.php why should i give it permission 664? [18:52:39] amidaniel: Indeed. [18:53:32] but first i need to see if it is a intuitive language, intuitive languages you don't need to learn [18:55:05] argh oop funkyness - i wish i had learnt the difference between public and private when i learnt vb. [18:56:55] Hello, I need help with multilanguage (subdomains) instalation! [18:58:25] my permissions are just for admin read and write for localsettings.php [18:58:31] is that a mistake? and why? [18:59:19] Hello, I need help with multilanguage (subdomains) instalation! [18:59:41] you need to install mediawiki two times seperately [18:59:55] upload the folder twice and install it [19:00:30] i know what to do, I have done it already, but I have a problem I must show you firts, its online [19:00:47] *first [19:01:27] are you there? [19:01:30] yes [19:01:34] wikivet.es [19:01:43] choose english [19:01:47] then choose install [19:02:04] i dont see install [19:02:10] it says the it cant find the file, but the file is there [19:02:18] wikivet - [19:03:03] wikivet -> Intro -> Main Page -> Choose English language (subdomain en.) -> Install media wiki [19:03:38] "set up wiki", not "install" [19:04:38] any idea? [19:05:44] tugori, any idea? [19:05:56] ugg .. damn internet [19:06:26] hmm no [19:06:41] the problem is that it doesnt find the file [19:06:45] but the file is there [19:06:58] hmm [19:07:00] maybe it has to do with the subdomain, i dont know [19:07:07] maybe set permissions to 777? [19:07:17] on that file? [19:07:34] or the entire mediawiki directory? [19:09:16] tugori? [19:10:10] doesnt work [19:10:49] yes [19:10:50] in .de (german) it is set to 777, the main directory, the config directory and the file, doesnt work [19:11:03] *de. [19:11:13] did you rename that file to index.html? [19:11:16] accidently? [19:11:33] change it to index.php [19:11:51] no, and the file is there, with the name of the file the installer says it is looking for [19:12:24] is there something wrong with this line? [19:12:25] $wgLogo = "/www/wiki/images/Wikislogo.png"; [19:12:38] i've also tried "images/wikislogo.png" and "wikislogo.png" [19:12:45] try the absolute [19:12:51] www.yourdomain.com/etc. [19:12:54] http:// etc [19:12:56] *Moniker42 tries [19:12:56] it should work [19:12:58] yes [19:13:32] http://moniker42.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [19:13:34] there we go! :) [19:13:49] fine :-) [19:14:15] wikivet: what about your index.php? [19:14:45] i'll send you a screen print [19:14:49] ko [19:14:51] ok [19:14:55] upload it pls [19:15:05] to where? [19:15:34] What notation should be used for WebRequest::getArray()? [19:15:46] tinypic [19:15:57] tugori, to where should i upload the image? [19:16:40] tynipic.com? [19:17:43] tinypic.com [19:18:23] tugori, http://i23.tinypic.com/2d2godd.jpg [19:18:50] as you see... this is relative to the .de subdomain (/de directory), and the file is there [19:19:11] and its 777 [19:19:27] and it doesnt work [19:20:27] hmm [19:20:42] asks for a missing file that is there! there is something i'm not getting [19:20:49] do the others work? [19:20:54] none :( [19:21:07] and im stuck :( [19:21:41] i have so much to do... and cant because i'm stuck with this [19:22:00] What database system is needed to flaggerevs extension? [19:22:20] is there no other folder config? [19:22:26] a main basic one? [19:22:35] what do you mean? [19:22:47] 03evan * r26439 10/trunk/extensions/SpecialForm/SpecialForm.body.php: Fix form target for non-English languages. [19:22:59] hmm forget it^^ [19:23:22] any idea? [19:23:34] tugori? [19:23:37] maybe he wants another index.php ni another folder? [19:23:48] i do not know your structure [19:24:02] hum... the installation directory only comes with one... [19:24:13] its the only one... [19:24:18] i'm sure [19:25:13] you now... it isnt searching for \de\config\install.php, and just \de\config\install.php, could it be the problem? [19:25:17] tygori? [19:25:21] tugori? [19:25:50] tugory, CORRECTION you now... it isnt searching for \de\config\install.php, and just \config\install.php, could it be the problem? [19:26:41] yes [19:26:43] that could be [19:26:45] just tr [19:26:45] y [19:26:48] moving the folder [19:26:55] how can i solve it? [19:27:28] i cant, i must have a directory containing a MediaWiki for each language... [19:27:38] or else i will only be able to install one [19:27:45] yes but try if it would work then [19:27:53] ok [19:28:00] ill be back tomorrow [19:28:05] will you be around? [19:28:15] do you gmail? [19:28:26] no [19:28:33] or why dont you try it without subdomain? [19:28:46] have to go [19:28:48] i will [19:28:48] instead of de.wikivet -> wikivet.es/de [19:28:50] ok [19:28:52] tnahks vm [19:28:59] thanks vm [19:35:02] duesentrieb are you here? [19:35:12] can i bother you for a min? [19:45:15] tugori: hm... a minute... :) [19:45:25] <_das> how would one have all namespaces counted in $wgContentNamespaces ? [19:45:48] ok [19:45:56] tell me when you are ready ;_) [19:46:29] tugori: ready now - not so much in a minute :) [19:46:42] _das: by adding them all? you probably don't want the talk namespaces there though [19:46:52] or user. or system messages. [19:47:22] you know, you'd think that one could use object references as array keys. [19:47:43] davidmccabe: hey [19:47:45] priv düse [19:47:56] hi minute. [19:47:57] <_das> Hmm, but would there be a way to exclude those but auto-include everything else? [19:48:05] <_das> Or does any other namespace have to be added manually? [19:48:05] MinuteElectron: Did you figure out the problem? [19:48:12] davidmccabe: nope :( [19:48:36] davidmccabe: anyway, did you get my patch? [19:48:51] try adding var_dump($basename.'_('.$i.')', $namespace); into the do/while loop in LqtView::incrementedTitle() and see what you get. [19:49:03] one moment [19:49:08] MinuteElectron: Yes, but it works here without it. I don't know why it doesn't work on your installation. [19:49:29] hmm [19:49:52] Which file are you including from your LocalSettings? It should be LqtPages.php. [19:49:59] yeah [19:51:18] davidmccabe: The patch fixes a notice level error, it doesn't cause any problem but technically the definitions hsould be definied. [19:51:24] which should have the defines at the top. Maybe something went wrong with the svn checkout and you got an older version of that file. [19:51:40] maybe [19:51:45] 03(mod) JavaScript tidbits - things to make custom JS easier - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6806 +comment (10jlerner) [19:52:57] MinuteElectron: Anyways, it's not an option at this point to modify Defines.php, because the Powers that Be want liquidthreads to be a pure extension. [19:55:29] davidmccabe: that sucks [19:55:56] hm? why would you want to modify Defines.php? [19:56:42] to add namespace definitions [19:57:25] Duesentrieb_: There's no need to. They can just be added in the extension file. Except for some reason that doesn't work on MinuteElectron's system. [19:57:51] I would just like to put this on the record: I hate php. [19:59:56] *Matmat is back (gone 01:24:22) [20:00:21] davidmccabe, your dissent has been noted [20:00:22] davidmccabe: i agree (on both points) [20:00:36] Moniker42: dissent? where? [20:00:55] davidmccabe, please wait 3-5 working days for several hired goons to show up at your door and beat you to death with giant dollar signs [20:04:04] yeah, what dissent? [20:04:52] I would just like to put this on the record: I hate php. [20:05:01] lol [20:05:08] five minutes ago! [20:05:49] Moniker42: that's consensus! [20:07:59] *davidmccabe would like to know what is wrong with: [20:08:00] implode(',', array_map(create_function('$t', 'return $t->id()'), $this->targets[$t->id()])) [20:08:37] oh, nm, it needs a semicolon. [20:08:48] it always needs a semicolon! [20:10:31] 03aaron * r26440 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: *Typo [20:17:10] bonne soirée [20:17:18] good night sorry! ;) [20:35:08] hi, is there a way to set the date format in a signature (~~~~~)? It doesn't seem to follow the one set in the preferences. [20:41:23] 03aaron * r26441 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage_body.php: *Don't always show search box, seems a bit cluttered [20:57:27] how do i set every page on the wiki to be only edited by registered users? [20:57:41] and also set it so that no-one can create an account without admin say-so ;) [20:58:25] http://svn.wikimedia.org is not working [20:58:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:User_rights [20:59:28] using 1.11, I'm trying to protect a page [20:59:36] what is the format for entering a date in the "Expires" box? [20:59:43] (specifically, I want it to NEVER expire) [20:59:53] Schroeder, blank means never expire [20:59:54] thanks ialex [21:00:19] you could also try something like 1 month, 2 weeks, etc, if you want it to unprotect after a certain amount of time [21:00:32] ok, thanks [21:00:41] I wasn't sure what the format is, is all [21:00:44] I can't find it documented anywhere [21:12:33] one more question: where can I find the ParserFunctions extension? It doesn't seem to be listed on the Mediawiki site [21:14:34] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ [21:24:05] i thought the difference between "rollback" and "undo" when reverting spam, was that "undo" doesnt make the changes appear in RecentChanges like it never happened, but that doesnt seem to be the case, what was the difference then [21:29:41] 03(NEW) small change to monobook's main css file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (zjh) [21:37:17] 03(mod) small change to monobook's main css file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571 +need-review +patch (10robchur) [21:54:28] Hi, got a quick question. I have mediawiki installed on 2 servers, one generates it's urls using the querystring, aka "index.php?title=nameofpage". The other just uses a slash, "index.php/nameofpage". How do I change this? I don't recall setting any parameters between the two versions. [21:54:41] Both are same version 1.10.1 [22:00:13] 03aaron * r26442 10/trunk/extensions/DeletedContributions/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: *typo [22:00:40] Aloha, anyone get OpenID working on a mediawiki install, by chance? [22:11:32] 03aaron * r26443 10/branches/REL1_11/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (13 files in 2 dirs): *Synch this [22:13:49] AaronSchulz: Prepare for stabbing ;) [22:13:59] why? [22:14:05] that needs backporting [22:14:11] that version is not runnable [22:14:12] I was joking. [22:15:34] Is there a WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki that you install server side (these greasemonkey scripts aren't working) [22:17:26] *AaronSchulz teaches MinuteElectron how to joke ;) [22:19:30] AaronSchulz: :D [22:22:45] anybody? wysiwyg extensions? any of them stable? [22:23:28] chris__: my sense is that you have to store all the markup, which makes everything much larger in the db... [22:24:00] ughh... [22:24:30] what was the reasoning of creating a new markup language specifically for wiki's? was it for linking and what not? [22:26:02] chris__: i think is that it is an easier markup, but when you try and do tables, it gets kind of nuts. there are browser plugins that help create the wiki markup. [22:26:29] yeah, so i tried some greasemonkey scripts, but they're too buggy for some reason [22:26:50] easier than html, also can be more extensible, like you say, with thinks like intra-wiki and inter-wiki links, inclusions, templates, etc. [22:27:08] I think there is a firefox plugin, i haven't used it in a while [22:27:11] true i guess... im just so used to html, I wish I could just enable it [22:27:20] it gives you a mediawiki toolbar [22:27:26] ill check the extension repository for firefox [22:27:52] I have a brief markup cheatsheet http://jeffmcneill.com/docs/technology/MarkupCheatSheet.pdf [22:28:00] compares mediawiki, markdown, and html [22:28:04] awesome [22:28:06] much thanks dude [22:28:14] i use markdown in wordpress, so I get extra confused! :P [22:28:45] no fair :/ [22:30:38] alright thanks guys [22:30:40] i gotta run [22:38:06] Peyton Manning has yet to throw an interception after four games! [23:33:43] 03(mod) Request to set the variable $wgSitename and $wgMetaNamespace in Classical Chinese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11552 +comment (10jeluf) [23:49:19] how do i tell images to link to a different page (i.e. not their image page) when clicked?