[00:05:34] <BrokenArrow>	Moniker42: not in standard MW, AFAIK see e.g. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[00:05:43] <Moniker42>	thanks BrokenArrow 
[00:05:53] <BrokenArrow>	(welle, there are a couple of kludges to get it working, too)
[00:36:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Request to set the variable $wgSitename and $wgMetaNamespace in Classical Chinese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11552  (10shinjiman)
[01:53:05] <EVSN>	Hello there, how do I rename the "Log in / create account"  ? I just want to make it "Log in"
[01:53:09] <EVSN>	Thank you
[01:53:56] <jeffmcneill>	EVSN: what is it you want to rename?
[01:54:25] <lleoliveirabr>	any dev would like to create a wiki page and i let the adsense for him
[01:54:32] <lleoliveirabr>	crwate some extensions too
[01:54:36] <lleoliveirabr>	create
[01:55:00] <EVSN>	you know the "Log in / Create account" on top of the wiki page?
[01:55:05] <EVSN>	I just want to rename it.
[01:55:15] <jeffmcneill>	The link name? 
[01:55:19] <EVSN>	yes 
[01:58:49] <jeffmcneill>	EVSN: Messages.php in /languages
[01:58:55] <jeffmcneill>	I think that is what you want
[01:58:56] <EVSN>	Thank you
[01:59:00] <EVSN>	thanks man
[01:59:22] <jeffmcneill>	i think the label is 'userlogin' => 'Log in / create account',
[02:01:39] <EVSN>	done. thanks jeff
[02:02:10] <wad>	My wonderful mediawiki has been up for more than a year now, and I'm having a problem with spam in it. I disabled anonymous editing early on, but the spammers just create accounts now. So now I've disabled account creation. Sad, I know. People will have to email me to create accounts for them. Anyway, now I just need to go through and, by user, see what they edited so I can clean it up.
[02:02:38] <wad>	Is there any way to see every page that a particular user edited?
[02:02:58] <amidaniel>	wad: Special:Contributions
[02:03:03] <wad>	Thanks!
[02:04:12] <jeffmcneill>	EVSN: sure thing 
[02:08:58] <EVSN>	i guess theres not a way to assign a topic to a user so only him/her can edit it?
[02:24:29] <wad>	EVSN: Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a wiki? The idea is that anyone can edit it.
[02:24:49] <wad>	Then add some accountability if you want to know *who* is really editing stuff.
[02:25:04] <wad>	I just wish there were a way to prevent the spammers from killing my wiki. :(
[02:25:05] <EVSN>	do you know of a good extension for that?
[02:25:12] <wad>	No clue.
[02:25:17] <wad>	Of, for accountability?
[02:25:27] <wad>	You can disable anonymous edits.
[02:25:27] <EVSN>	yes
[02:25:42] <wad>	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
[02:25:48] <wad>	Put that into LocalSettings.php
[02:26:05] <EVSN>	i already it tat disabled.
[02:26:06] <EVSN>	thanks
[02:26:09] *wad 	nods
[02:27:35] <Attic_Cat>	you may need to enable editing for the user group
[02:27:49] <Attic_Cat>	since the asterisk disables all except sysop
[02:29:23] <EVSN>	so i can create a user group, assign users to that group so only that user can edit?
[02:29:26] <EVSN>	can that be done?
[02:30:13] <CIA-6>	03amidaniel * r26444 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): API: Include, if possible, svn rev in siteinfo query result.
[02:35:36] <metrix>	Is this the place to ask questions about the Semantic Mediawiki plugin?
[02:35:39] <CIA-6>	03amidaniel * r26445 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: API: Forgot to document r26433 (rvlimit).
[02:35:57] <amidaniel>	metrix: Probably as good a place as any
[02:38:46] <metrix>	My relations and attributes do not work under namespaces, and I cannot figure out why..  Has anyone run across this before?
[02:40:18] <metrix>	I am using semantic Mediawiki 0.7, Mediawiki 1.10 and Semantic Forms 0.6.3
[04:08:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707  +comment (10lilewyn)
[04:13:03] <n0ay>	I can't for the life of me figure out how to delete images from my MediaWiki Installation. I get the following in return "Error deleting file: Could not create directory". Anyone?
[04:15:27] <slakr>	weird.  I hit show preview when resizing images and it consistently hangs
[04:26:29] <n0ay>	can anyone point me to a reference where I can learn how to configure my MediaWiki installation to allow for the deletion of images (and other files)? I can delete pages just fine, just not files. Also, I am logged in as WikiSysop. Is this a MySQL issue I need to resolve with permissions? I get "Error deleting file: Could not create directory.:
[04:59:39] <n0ay>	"error deleting file: could not create directory" - any ideas on how to resolve this, anyone? (MediaWiki 1.11)
[05:08:34] <CIA-6>	03amidaniel * r26446 10/branches/REL1_11/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Note change in API query limits for sysops that was made in the 1.11 release. Somehow this didn't make it into the original release notes.
[05:12:45] <n0ay>	amidaniel: Sorry, I'm not understanding... API query limits?
[05:14:25] <amidaniel>	n0ay: Sorry, that had nothing to do with your question :)
[05:16:33] <amidaniel>	n0ay: Do you have $wgSaveDeletedFiles set to true?
[05:19:16] <n0ay>	actually $wgSaveDeletedFiles is not in my LocalSettings.php at all, so I assume that the default (false) still stands.
[05:19:22] <n0ay>	>
[05:20:10] <n0ay>	crap: according to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSaveDeletedFiles "As of MediaWiki 1.11.0 this option has been removed, as the feature has been enabled unconditionally."
[05:20:19] <n0ay>	How to I get around that??
[05:20:22] <amidaniel>	n0ay: Do you have a directory in your wiki root named "deleted"?
[05:20:36] <amidaniel>	n0ay: I forgot we reworked how image deletion works :)
[05:21:27] <amidaniel>	If not, make one quickly, ensure that it is writeable by your webserver and try again
[05:21:39] <amidaniel>	Er .. I'm sorry .. "images/deleted"
[05:21:52] <n0ay>	yes in images, not in wiki root
[05:22:32] <amidaniel>	n0ay: Is it writeable by your webserver? Is anything in the directory besides a .htaccess?
[05:22:47] <n0ay>	ok, basic question. how do I "ensure that it is writeable by my webserver"?
[05:23:11] <n0ay>	does it make a difference that this is just for my local LAN, i.e., a wiki for the Intranet?
[05:24:14] <amidaniel>	n0ay: chmod +x images/deleted
[05:24:40] <amidaniel>	And, no, it shouldn't
[05:25:05] <n0ay>	amidaniel: give me a second for that... 
[05:25:09] <amidaniel>	okay
[05:30:26] <n0ay>	didn't work... went to /var/www/wiki in the terminal and entered chmod+x images/deleted
[05:32:32] <n0ay>	by the way, when I do try to delete I get "Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /var/www/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1670" along up top (where the "sitenotice" would be)
[05:33:29] <amidaniel>	n0ay: What are the contents of your images/deleted dir?
[05:33:38] <n0ay>	And I should add that the chmod command does appear to have "unlocked" the folder from within my /images folder
[05:34:17] <n0ay>	amidaniel: deleted dir contains nothing...
[05:34:53] <amidaniel>	And images? What are its contents and permissions?
[05:35:00] <CIA-6>	03david * r26447 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[05:35:00] <CIA-6>	Fix New Messages so that only one instance of each top-level thread is shown;
[05:35:00] <CIA-6>	the specific threads that have been changed are highlighted. The fact that
[05:35:00] <CIA-6>	Threads::thread_children was a static variable was causing weird bugs. I have no
[05:35:00] <CIA-6>	idea why it was so in the first place; it doesn't make any sense. Hopefully
[05:35:03] <CIA-6>	there's no reason that I'm forgetting.
[05:36:52] <CIA-6>	03david * r26448 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[05:36:52] <CIA-6>	Merged revisions 26431-26447 via svnmerge from
[05:36:52] <CIA-6>	svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3
[05:36:52] <CIA-6>	........
[05:36:52] <CIA-6>	 r26433 | amidaniel | 2007-10-05 00:37:58 -0700 (Fri, 05 Oct 2007) | 2 lines
[05:36:53] <CIA-6>	API: Ensure it checks *only* the fast limit or the slow limit, not both. On fast
[05:36:56] <n0ay>	images contains 16 items (15 folders including the "deleted" folder) and the readme file. How do I check permissions on the images dir?
[05:36:57] <CIA-6>	revision queries (those without content), was checking once against fast limit
[05:41:04] <n0ay>	amidaniel: should I chmod +x images?
[05:42:19] <amidaniel>	n0ay: No, clearly it's able to write to images. I was more curious about who the owner/group of the images directory were and what the permissions on it were
[05:42:28] <amidaniel>	If you could pastebin a ls -la
[05:45:39] <n0ay>	amidaniel: drwxrwxrwx is for the "images" folder while drwxr-xr-x is for the "images/deleted" folder, does that help?
[05:46:17] <amidaniel>	Gahh, indeed .. sorry. chmod +w images/deleted
[05:46:24] <amidaniel>	And let me know if you still have the problem
[05:52:03] <n0ay>	amidaniel: still did work, by the way the owner the other image subdirectories is www-data, while the owner of "deleted" is my userid for the machine... does this amount to the problem?
[05:52:11] <n0ay>	still didn't work I mean
[05:53:57] <amidaniel>	n0ay: Can you chown www-data images/deleted
[05:53:58] <amidaniel>	?
[05:57:50] <n0ay>	amidaniel: yes! this allowed me to delete an image. hell yeah. ok before we part, what exactly did we do. what was the change of ownership we deployed on images/deleted?
[05:58:54] <amidaniel>	Glad to hear it :) Knew it had to be something simple :)
[05:59:02] <amidaniel>	www-data is the username for your webserver
[05:59:19] <amidaniel>	It needed to have the ability to write to that directory in order to delete images
[06:01:06] <n0ay>	amidaniel: final question (?) so, this is allowing images to be deleted, i.e., put into the images/delete folder. How do I totally delete them though? Would that be in the FAQs?
[06:01:51] <amidaniel>	n0ay: You can go in and manually remove them from the deleted directory
[06:02:05] <amidaniel>	It's usually the uhh Wiki mentality to not permanently delete anything, though :)
[06:04:39] <n0ay>	amidaniel: yes, yes. bytes are free, I know... but I like things clean nonetheless... thanks so much for your time on my problem! I do appreciate it...
[06:04:53] <amidaniel>	not a problem
[06:30:53] <CIA-6>	03mkroetzsch * r26449 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php: Typo in query answering for categories w/o subcategory reasoning.
[06:31:48] <MinuteElectron>	oh wow, the interwebs is sooo coool.
[06:34:25] <MinuteElectron>	Now to learn C++...
[06:59:42] <wad>	Hi, guys. I've been looking around, and I can't seem to find a way to delete users.
[06:59:54] <wad>	Spammers got on my wiki and created a bunch of garbage accounts.
[07:09:05] <Maj>	hi all 
[07:09:37] <Maj>	a quick question anyone knows any good extension to add flash to mediawiki ?
[07:11:06] <Maj>	got it thanks
[07:42:30] <MinuteElectron>	wad: You cannot delete users.
[07:42:36] <MinuteElectron>	@search .
[07:42:36] <mwbot>	Results: [download, extensions, faq, hidetoc, highlight, imagemap, multiplewiki, namespaces, package, purge, rights, sidebar, subpages, subversion, support, syntax, tex, tias, upgrade, welcome]
[07:42:43] <wad>	ah
[07:43:07] <wad>	bummer
[07:47:33] <MinuteElectron>	yep
[07:50:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707  (10effeietsanders)
[07:50:56] <amidaniel>	For those interested, updated docu on my bot framework is up at: http://amidaniel.com/MWJF
[07:51:40] <Werdna>	lol, bot framework
[07:51:54] <amidaniel>	?
[07:52:25] *Werdna 	hides.
[07:52:33] <amidaniel>	O.o
[07:52:54] <Werdna>	amidaniel: test my website!
[07:52:57] <MinuteElectron>	amidaniel: cool
[07:53:09] <amidaniel>	Werdna: I will later -- a bit tired right now though :)
[07:53:18] <MinuteElectron>	amidaniel: any signof @aliaslist ?
[07:53:28] <amidaniel>	MinuteElectron: No, haven't gotten to it
[07:53:33] <MinuteElectron>	heh
[07:53:34] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[07:53:35] <MinuteElectron>	dw
[07:54:02] <MinuteElectron>	Is there an alias remove thing
[07:54:13] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26450 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): *Clear db row if settings set back to site defaults
[07:56:37] <amidaniel>	MinuteElectron: !alias rm
[07:57:00] <MinuteElectron>	kl
[07:57:07] <Werdna>	!multiplewiki
[07:57:07] <mwbot>	To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix.
[08:09:32] <MinuteElectron>	amidaniel: interesting, is there any *real* documentation?
[08:09:39] <MinuteElectron>	And is this like pywikipedia but in java?
[08:10:37] <amidaniel>	MinuteElectron: Don't know what you mean by *real* documentation :)
[08:10:52] <amidaniel>	And, yeah, it's similar to pywikipedia, but hopefully will be much better once I get it all done :)
[08:11:02] <MinuteElectron>	i mean like mediawiki.org but for the bot
[08:11:15] <MinuteElectron>	cool
[08:11:18] <amidaniel>	No, the javadoc's all that there is
[08:11:30] <MinuteElectron>	ok..
[08:11:37] *amidaniel 	personally thought it was shockingly comprehensive ;)
[08:11:49] <MinuteElectron>	ahh, ok
[08:26:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Request to set the variable $wgSitename and $wgMetaNamespace in Classical Chinese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11552  (10jeluf)
[08:29:44] <_wooz>	lo
[08:36:42] <ho]V[e>	hello channel
[08:37:22] <ho]V[e>	i want to move my mediawiki to another box
[08:37:38] <ho]V[e>	clean install and overwrite the database?
[08:37:50] <Werdna>	why overwrite the database?
[08:37:51] <ho]V[e>	or should i overwrite the mediawiki files as well ? 
[08:38:14] <ho]V[e>	sorry, i meant importing the backupped tables
[08:38:20] <ho]V[e>	database
[08:38:25] <Werdna>	no need to overwrite anything
[08:38:27] <ho]V[e>	excuse my n00bness :)
[08:38:28] <Werdna>	just copy and paste ;)
[08:39:02] <ho]V[e>	thanks a bunch. i'll idle around here while working on that ;)
[08:40:36] <MinuteElectron>	Don't worry about idling, we don't kick people for it ;) - some people in here haven't said a word for years.
[08:40:53] <Werdna>	he probably thinks you're exaggerating
[08:41:09] <MinuteElectron>	I'm not.
[08:41:24] <ho]V[e>	exaggerating what ? 
[08:41:31] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[08:45:12] <ho]V[e>	ah, the years .. 
[08:45:17] <ho]V[e>	that took me long ;-)
[10:33:34] <Maj>	hi all
[10:34:25] <Maj>	anybody know how to disable the tab "Special pages " tab on top right corner ?
[10:34:40] <Maj>	am using cologneblue skin
[10:36:47] <Duesentrieb_>	try css
[10:36:56] <Duesentrieb_>	otoh, the tab is usefull...
[10:37:33] <Maj>	I want to disable only thath tab 
[10:37:38] <Maj>	special pages
[10:39:33] <Duesentrieb_>	yes. try css
[10:39:41] <Duesentrieb_>	css selectors are very powerfull...
[10:40:08] <Maj>	am sorry am new to this wiki... but I know it bit
[10:40:16] <Maj>	what is css selector
[10:40:17] <Maj>	?
[10:40:32] <Duesentrieb_>	learn about CSS in your favorite html reference
[10:40:42] <Maj>	yeah sure :)
[10:40:48] <Duesentrieb_>	then add an appropriate style to MediaWiki:common.css
[10:40:58] <Maj>	ah 
[10:41:04] <Maj>	it;'s in common.css
[10:41:05] <Maj>	?
[10:41:12] <Maj>	or cologneblue.css
[10:41:13] <Maj>	?
[10:42:08] <Duesentrieb_>	either. common.css is for all skins. but note the difference between the files (skins/...something...css) and the wiki pages (MediaWiki:...something....css)
[10:42:21] <Duesentrieb_>	also, the wiki pages don't exist per default. create them if you want to add something
[10:42:58] <Maj>	ah thanks much :)
[11:55:23] <prad>	I installed media wiki version 1.10.1, and enabled nice category listing
[11:55:49] <prad>	now when I remove the entries, it is still showing in nice category listing
[11:56:01] <Maj>	oh :(
[11:56:04] <prad>	I think mw is doing some sort of caching
[11:56:23] <prad>	but I am not able to figure it out ... and I did not add any special caching extensions
[11:56:39] <prad>	any help would be appreciated 
[11:57:16] <Maj>	hi prad 
[11:57:20] <Maj>	try this 
[11:57:22] <Maj>	#disable caching for whole  wiki
[11:57:22] <Maj>	$wgEnableParserCache = false;
[11:57:22] <Maj>	$wgCachePages = false;
[12:01:12] <prad>	wow! cool
[12:01:17] <prad>	that worked, thanks Maj
[12:01:19] <Maj>	woot ;)
[12:01:23] <prad>	:)
[12:01:37] <prad>	one more doubt here
[12:01:47] <prad>	is there any way to moderate the changes in media wiki
[12:02:02] <prad>	any kind of extensions to be installed ?
[12:02:25] <Maj>	here soem one need to help Mr.Prad ... am helpless :-P
[12:02:34] <Maj>	someone
[12:27:26] <Maj>	hey guys 
[12:28:03] <Maj>	anybody knows how to disable the tabs " Main Page | About | Help | FAQ | Special pages | Log out" on top
[12:28:20] <Maj>	or I just want to disable Special pages 
[12:28:24] <Maj>	tab
[12:29:10] <Monk33>	hi. i have set the php_admin_value memory_limit to 30M. is that for all processes at all? i have 512 MB RAM on my server though but when i raise the php memory the website is not accessable anymore. also i have raised the apache limits: MaxClients 100 , ServerLimit 160
[12:30:07] <Maj>	where you setup ?
[12:30:11] <Maj>	in php.ini
[12:30:11] <Maj>	?
[12:30:23] <Maj>	or in .htaccess
[12:30:24] <Maj>	?
[12:31:32] <Monk33>	none of them. php memory limit in a server's own file where tehy want  me to set it. i think it's the same as .htaccess
[12:31:51] <Monk33>	it's domain-specific and called vhost.conf
[12:32:48] <Maj>	hmm... 
[12:33:53] <Monk33>	the problem in general is: i have more and more visitors and loading a page takes longer and longer. so i want to know how to best raise the limits of php memory and apache clients
[12:34:22] <Monk33>	i cannot say how many visitors i have, i just know i have ~23000 page views a day
[12:37:53] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: the first thing I'd try is enabling the file cache
[12:38:32] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: seconds, try to use a bytecode cache for php (and make mediawiki use it also for object caching - not sure if this is automatic)
[12:39:05] <Duesentrieb_>	maving the db on a different box also helps
[12:39:52] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: none of these options need more memory for php (though all of them need more memory in some way - it's a tradeoff between size and speed, as usual)
[12:40:22] <Monk33>	when i rais the php memory to over 100M the site is damn fast
[12:40:36] <Monk33>	with same apache limits
[12:41:27] <Monk33>	yeah i think i've read about that object caching thingy when i installed MW so php processes are much faster?
[12:41:28] <Duesentrieb_>	that's odd - i can't imagine how that would impact speed directly. unless i'm wrong and that limit laso applies to bytecode cahes, and you are already using one.
[12:42:15] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: during install, you are aske about your memcached server - which is yet another option for caching.
[12:42:18] <Monk33>	when i have 20M it takes about 2 seconds to load a page with many db queries, on 120M it's lightspeed
[12:42:59] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: well, as i said, i can't imagine why that would be so. it can't be caching, since php does not remember anything between invokations.
[12:43:11] <Duesentrieb_>	but maybe someone else knows this stuff better than i do
[12:43:18] <Duesentrieb_>	brion-office for instance :)
[12:44:40] <Monk33>	hehe. so about the object caching. is it hard to install? i quitted reading the installation guide when i installed MW cos i have no clue about these things and with a Vserver it's hard to set up things with apache etc cos i dunno where all these files are
[12:45:00] <Monk33>	and it sounded complicated
[12:46:25] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: object caching is enabled per default. you are already using it. the question is only *where* objects are cached. optiosn are ram (per invokation), mysql (a combination of the two is the default), a bytecode cache (which also improves overall php performance), and memcached.
[12:46:43] <Duesentrieb_>	wikimedia used bytecode cache + memcached
[12:47:04] <Duesentrieb_>	(memcached also has the advantage that you have a shared cache if you have multiple apache instances)
[12:48:10] <Duesentrieb_>	and using file caches for full pages is an option independant of all that.
[12:48:18] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: but for the gory details... ask someone else :)
[12:48:35] <Monk33>	ah i see. well i forgot what it was though, just remember that enabling it was complicated, later there was a big discussion in this chan if it makes a site faster at all or not. so i quitted caring about it
[12:49:21] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: well, as with all non-trivial things, it depends.
[12:49:52] <Duesentrieb_>	it depends on usage pattern and available hardware, mostly. and the level of access you have to the system.
[12:50:25] <Monk33>	hardware is fine. access not.
[12:50:36] <Duesentrieb_>	using memcached means installing a system service - and memcached generally unsafe on a shared hsot.
[12:50:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707  +comment (10mail_from_29)
[12:50:52] <Duesentrieb_>	"hardware is fine" also means you can have another box? or three?...
[12:50:53] <Monk33>	i could ask my provider to take a look, but they take 100€ for installing additional scripts etc
[12:50:54] <Duesentrieb_>	see, it all depends :)
[12:51:14] <Monk33>	another box? no i have 1 VPS
[12:51:23] <Monk33>	one IP
[12:51:32] <Duesentrieb_>	yea, so, hardware *is* a limiting factor
[12:51:38] <Duesentrieb_>	anyway, as i said: enable file cache, ask about a php byte cache.
[12:52:05] <Monk33>	ok thanks will ask what they can do about it :)
[12:53:22] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: if you get a byte cache, you'll have to set wgXXXCacheType to CACHE_ACCEL or CACHE_DBA - google for docs or find someone who knows about this cruft. i don't.
[12:53:42] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: anyway, $wgUseFileCache = true; is trivial :) use it.
[12:55:17] <Monk33>	enabled ;)
[12:56:55] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: oh, it sais: "Must set $wgShowIPinHeader = false"
[12:56:58] <Duesentrieb_>	otherwise it won't work.
[12:57:19] <Duesentrieb_>	(pages must be exactly the same for all anonymous isitors, otherwise they can't be served from a static cache)
[12:58:21] <Maj>	How to disable special pages ?
[12:58:30] <Monk33>	ok changed. reboot required?
[12:58:50] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: o_O 
[12:59:06] <Monk33>	i logged in and out. should do it
[12:59:08] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: nothing in mediawiki requires a reboot. not even restarting apache.
[12:59:18] <Monk33>	yep 
[12:59:19] <Duesentrieb_>	login has nothing to do with it either
[12:59:35] <Maj>	anyone 
[12:59:37] <Maj>	How to disable special pages ?
[12:59:45] <Duesentrieb_>	Maj: depends on the special pages. 
[12:59:51] <Monk33>	see how much clue i have ;)
[13:00:09] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: make sure the site still works when you are not logged in
[13:01:06] <Morbus>	g'day. i have a separate database whcih generates a set of useful data. i'd like to reproduce this data inside a (private/closed/auth'd) mediawiki page using an iframe (copying it is not an option as the data changes regularly). what sort of options do I have?
[13:02:10] <Duesentrieb_>	Morbus: a) allow all html b) allow static html snippets (HTMLets extension) c) write a (trivial) tag hook to generate the iframe (or inline the html directly)
[13:02:49] <Morbus>	Duesentrieb_: a) sounds the easiest, and it's a closed/private wiki entirely for four people, so seems safe(ish).
[13:02:50] <Duesentrieb_>	HTMLets can also load snippets via http
[13:03:05] <Duesentrieb_>	well, easiest, probably, but also ugliest, and most easy to break :)
[13:03:10] <Morbus>	how so?
[13:03:40] <Duesentrieb_>	well, you have ugly touchy html code in your pages
[13:03:46] <Duesentrieb_>	anyway, set $wgRawHtml = true;
[13:04:03] <Morbus>	well, it'd just be one <iframe>. i have no desire to use anything else outside of the mediawiki syntax.
[13:04:14] <Monk33>	Maj: you just want to remove the SPecial Pages link from th sidebar or remove the links FROM that page
[13:04:27] <Morbus>	Duesentrieb_: thankee.
[13:04:43] <Duesentrieb_>	Monk33: note that the raw html must be wrapped in <html>...</html>
[13:05:34] <Morbus>	you lost me. doens't that happen already on page render?
[13:05:46] <Monk33>	Daniel: ok but Morbus may care more about it ;)
[13:05:50] <Morbus>	heh, heh
[13:06:22] <Duesentrieb_>	sorry
[13:06:27] <Morbus>	or is <html> just the magic "hey, mediawiki! don't touch my source!" boundaries?
[13:06:36] <Duesentrieb_>	exactly
[13:06:38] <Morbus>	k
[13:09:52] <Maj>	hmm Let me check Monk33
[13:09:56] <Maj>	danke
[13:10:46] <Maj>	am not seeing anything using index.php/MediaWiki:SideBar
[13:12:29] <Monk33>	then your sidebar is empty?
[13:12:38] <Maj>	yeah 
[13:12:50] <Maj>	I removed it but 
[13:13:14] <Maj>	the top side of the wiki is still showing it
[13:13:21] <Maj>	Main Page | About | Help | FAQ | Special pages | Log out
[13:13:35] <Maj>	I want to remove  Special pages from that list
[13:13:36] <Maj>	;)
[13:14:14] <MinuteElectron>	hack the source
[13:14:33] <Maj>	am using CologneBlue skin
[13:14:38] <MinuteElectron>	stirll
[13:14:41] <MinuteElectron>	hack the source
[13:15:09] <Maj>	you mean in CologneBlue.php 
[13:15:16] <Maj>	or CologneBlue.css
[13:15:25] <Maj>	I checked  CologneBlue.css 
[13:15:31] <Maj>	but no luck :(
[13:18:25] <MinuteElectron>	.php
[13:18:34] <Maj>	ah 
[13:18:51] <Maj>	checking.... :)
[13:25:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) API should provide interface for expanding templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11572 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (vasilvv)
[13:35:47] <Maj>	yeah I did it 
[13:35:50] <Maj>	cool :)
[13:58:41] <MinuteElectron>	What is the system message for the top of the login page?
[14:08:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) allow limited wikicode rendering via api.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11173  (10vasilvv)
[14:09:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	hm...
[14:09:45] *Jack_Phoenix 	thinks MediaWiki.org should have a Hack: namespace since there's one for extensions too
[14:10:10] <MinuteElectron>	Who loves my hacker notice? http://tech.viral.idkb.eu/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin
[14:10:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	:D
[14:11:08] <MinuteElectron>	I'll take that as a yes :P
[14:11:23] <Jack_Phoenix>	<g>
[14:11:39] *MinuteElectron 	wonders if there is a simple way to share the interwiki table.
[14:12:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	well, I use Dantman's hack for shared tables and it works very well...despite that Dantman doesn't want to release that hack yet <g>
[14:13:49] <MinuteElectron>	:(
[14:14:06] <MinuteElectron>	It would be cool though, I bet there is a bug report for it...
[14:14:07] *MinuteElectron 	looks
[14:15:15] <Jack_Phoenix>	well, I'm not him, so I can give the code for you ;)
[14:15:44] <MinuteElectron>	I don't like hacking the source though...
[14:16:43] <Jack_Phoenix>	who does?
[14:17:04] <MinuteElectron>	true
[14:17:06] <luis>	hi, need help, I have problem with installation with subdomains!!!!
[14:18:51] <MinuteElectron>	Also i wish there was a MediaWiki:logintop message so I could move my hacker warning to the top.
[14:19:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	MinuteElectron: the source code for that shared tables hack is at http://internal.pastey.net/74942 . You need to hack Database.php, specifically the tableName function. find it and replace with the code from that link
[14:20:03] <MinuteElectron>	Thought it was something like that :)
[14:20:19] <Jack_Phoenix>	then you can define $wgSharedTables in globalsettings like this: $wgSharedTables = array( 'user', 'interwiki' );
[14:20:42] <MinuteElectron>	When you get a chance can you convince Dantman to submit it to bugzilla :)
[14:20:48] <Jack_Phoenix>	and don't ask me if it throws funny errors or things go BOOM! I know nothing about it, really ;)
[14:20:57] <MinuteElectron>	:P
[14:21:01] <Jack_Phoenix>	but I can try to convince him to submit it when I see him :)
[14:21:58] <MinuteElectron>	thanks
[14:22:41] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: Is that the entire patch?
[14:22:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	AFAIK, yes
[14:22:58] <MinuteElectron>	hmm, it doesn't make sense - but we'll see
[14:24:07] <MinuteElectron>	It hasn't crashed my wiki lol.
[14:24:27] <Jack_Phoenix>	:D
[14:24:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	that's a good thing ;)
[14:44:01] <Nikerabbit>	ugga
[14:44:08] <NotACow>	bugga
[14:47:37] <Moniker42>	hey, any idea how i could upload .pdf files to a wiki and then have them as clickable links that will open in the user's pdf viewer?
[14:49:15] <MinuteElectron>	I hate the fact that MediaWiki thinks you are a total n00b so blocks access to config/index.php if LocalSettings.php already exists.
[14:50:09] <Maj>	hi Moniker42
[14:50:16] <Moniker42>	hi Maj 
[14:51:51] <Maj>	just add $wgEnableUploads = true;
[14:51:58] <Maj>	in Localsetting.php
[14:52:01] <Maj>	and 
[14:52:10] <Maj>	add $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'pdf', 'txt' );
[14:52:30] <Maj>	now edit your post 
[14:53:13] <Maj>	in that add [[Image:pdftext]]
[14:53:29] <Maj>	now save and see the post
[14:53:43] <Duesentrieb_>	or rather [[Media:some.pdf]] to get a direct link to the file
[14:53:43] <Maj>	you will see a link pdftext
[14:53:50] <Maj>	yeah 
[14:53:51] <Maj>	:)
[14:53:59] <Maj>	click the link 
[14:54:03] <Maj>	and upload the pdf 
[14:54:08] <Maj>	hope that helps ;)
[15:03:50] <Moniker42>	thanks Maj, Duesentrieb_ :)
[15:03:59] <Moniker42>	<3 MediaWiki
[15:04:11] <Moniker42>	i'm so glad i didn't scrimp and go for something that would do _just_ what i wanted and little more...
[15:04:26] <Moniker42>	(or at least, what i thought i wanted)
[15:04:34] <flyingparchment>	MinuteElectron: allowing any random user to overwrite localsettings would be a rather unfortunate security problem
[15:05:36] <MinuteElectron>	flyingparchment: I know, but they would need to know usernames and passwords and it can't be directly overwritten (it has to be moved).
[15:05:42] <Moniker42>	s/unfortunate/catastrophic
[15:05:52] <flyingparchment>	MinuteElectron: no they wouldn't.. just set up a public mysql server somewhere
[15:06:20] <MinuteElectron>	They still have to move the localsettings.php file from /config/LocalSetings.php to /LocalSettings.php
[15:07:50] <MinuteElectron>	anyway, I am confusing myself with all these different wikis I have going - so I'm gonna take a break do some chores then see what I can do.
[15:07:53] <MinuteElectron>	adios
[15:36:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742  +comment (10garas-)
[15:36:35] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742  (10garas-)
[15:38:13] <Jack_Phoenix>	how the hell is edit.php (http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/edit.php?revision=23531&view=markup) supposed to work? I did php edit.php -u 'Edit page script' -s 'just a test' -m -a 'Main Page' on putty and nothing happened...
[15:38:48] <Nikerabbit>	uga
[15:39:13] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: define nothing
[15:39:29] <Jack_Phoenix>	no results or errors whatsoever
[15:39:37] <Nikerabbit>	did the command end?
[15:40:04] <Paretje>	I want to make a language bar like on MetaWiki that you can select the other language versions of that page, but the if statements doesn't work in the templates, how can I activate that?
[15:40:46] <Paretje>	Ow, it's MediaWiki ;)
[15:40:51] <Nikerabbit>	Paretje: you need to install parserfunctions extension (or something like that)
[15:41:23] <Paretje>	ow, thanks!
[15:42:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	I pressed enter, got a new line where I (could) type in a command - but what confuses me is the lack of any reply...the script doesn't complain about username or page title or anything - it just...doesn't work
[15:42:26] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: it should listen for input and not end
[15:43:03] <Jack_Phoenix>	indeed =/
[15:43:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Problems when trying to save edits in general - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 04CRIT; high; MediaWiki: Page editing; (doubina)
[15:44:20] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: works for me :D
[15:44:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	:/
[15:44:36] <Nikerabbit>	are you sure you just didn't kill it ctrl+c?
[15:44:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	quite sure, yeah...
[15:45:07] *Jack_Phoenix 	shall retry
[15:47:12] <Jack_Phoenix>	won't work...ah well
[15:47:20] <Nikerabbit>	??
[15:47:32] <Nikerabbit>	what's the return value?
[15:47:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	...absolutely /nothing/...
[15:48:29] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: append " ; echo $?" the the command line?
[15:50:21] <Jack_Phoenix>	php edit.php returns the help for it, but when I try to add options, nothing...nevermind, it's not important, just wanted to test :)
[15:54:01] <Moniker42>	could someone help me with templating please? 
[15:54:01] <Moniker42>	http://moniker42.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Pdf
[15:54:13] <Moniker42>	i'd like to use that template in any page, and be able to customise the text on the right
[15:54:23] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: if it gives help you are not giving enough args to it
[15:54:55] <Nikerabbit>	but really I just think it's a hidden php error or you just don't understand how it is supposed to work :D
[15:55:01] <Jack_Phoenix>	maybe ;)
[16:00:50] <Paretje>	When I want to upload a png file, I get this error: "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again.", When I do the same with the same image, but saved as jpg, It works...
[16:01:49] <Moniker42>	any template gurus?
[16:05:45] <Moniker42>	aha!
[16:05:51] <Moniker42>	genius.
[16:05:58] <Moniker42>	(but also annoying)
[16:37:09] <MinuteElectron>	Now to see if I can get this thing to work.
[16:37:57] *MinuteElectron 	needs to install the checkuser extension so he can acutally go through with what his attention notices say.
[16:53:24] <Stinkfly>	hi
[16:53:39] <Maj>	hello ;)
[16:53:56] <Stinkfly>	how does the google description thing work
[16:54:11] <Stinkfly>	like were does the text come from for the wikipedia article
[16:54:15] <Stinkfly>	if you google facebook
[16:55:32] <Stinkfly>	http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=facebook&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[16:55:35] <Stinkfly>	if you go on that
[16:55:41] <Stinkfly>	and see the wikipedia article
[16:55:53] <Stinkfly>	were does the description come from?
[16:57:18] <Stinkfly>	w.b martinp23
[16:57:18] <MinuteElectron>	Why do we not have a logintop message?
[17:00:27] <Stinkfly>	can anyone ansew my question above?
[17:13:31] <Stinkfly>	please tell about article descriptions
[17:16:10] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26451 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php): 
[17:16:10] <CIA-6>	*Revert some confusing UI. That would work if images/templates where checked,
[17:16:10] <CIA-6>	but its not worth the query and on large sites like this where pages are chucked
[17:16:10] <CIA-6>	full of templates, it would almost never show since one tiny change somewhere
[17:16:10] <CIA-6>	would cause it not to.
[17:16:14] <CIA-6>	*Improve the diff to stable by listing updated images/templates
[17:21:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Message at beginning of userlogin page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11574 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (minuteelectron)
[17:21:57] <MinuteElectron>	It is time for everyones favourite game, bug the devs!
[17:22:13] <MinuteElectron>	AaronSchulz: Are you busy?
[17:23:46] <MinuteElectron>	Duesentrieb_: Are you in the mood to commit a patch?
[17:24:52] *MinuteElectron 	goes bug hunting some more.
[17:25:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Restrict page move to autoconfirmed on it.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11575 15enhancement; high; Wikimedia: Site requests; (powerpdn)
[17:26:18] <ialex>	MinuteElectron: it's good to also define the message, otherwise you get a horrible <loginstart> instead
[17:26:41] <MinuteElectron>	oops
[17:26:43] <MinuteElectron>	I suck
[17:26:49] *MinuteElectron 	goes and doea somemore.
[17:27:30] <Maj>	see ya guys :)
[17:27:38] *Stinkfly 	thinks there should be a mobile mode to mediawiki
[17:28:15] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26452 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: 
[17:28:15] <CIA-6>	*Make those template links have diff urls
[17:28:15] <CIA-6>	*Remove the force index. MySQL does it smart already. Actually that caused a page table scan.
[17:28:35] <MinuteElectron>	Stinkfly: isn't too hard to implement
[17:29:03] <Stinkfly>	why don't they
[17:29:04] <AaronSchulz>	meow
[17:29:47] *Stinkfly 	still wounders how google's search results for mediawiki article's descriptions apear
[17:30:30] <MinuteElectron>	Stinkfly: because no one can be bothered
[17:30:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Message at beginning of userlogin page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11574  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[17:30:41] <Stinkfly>	but how does it work?
[17:30:51] <MinuteElectron>	ialex: better?
[17:31:22] <ialex>	MinuteElectron: maybe :)
[17:31:43] <MinuteElectron>	:?
[17:31:55] <MinuteElectron>	What would a possible problem be?
[17:32:46] <MinuteElectron>	JackP|food: I found the code you gave me here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSharedDB
[17:34:56] <Jack_Phoenix>	MinuteElectron: actually, no. the code I gave you allows defining other shared tables too - that allows to define a shared DB and a shared user table - nothing else.
[17:35:07] <MinuteElectron>	oh, right
[17:35:09] <MinuteElectron>	my bad
[17:36:01] <Jack_Phoenix>	I tried that code too, but I found it quite annoying that it allowed only to share the user table, so I switched to Dantman's version :)
[17:42:20] <MinuteElectron>	So, any developer to commit my patch? :)
[17:42:56] <MinuteElectron>	Werdna: You busy?
[17:43:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) MediaWiki mobile - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11576 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (omnitrix.stinkfly)
[17:46:39] <AaronSchulz>	no seems to be around atm
[17:46:45] <AaronSchulz>	*no one
[17:47:02] <MinuteElectron>	AaronSchulz: :P
[17:47:06] <MinuteElectron>	You are a developer :)
[17:50:13] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26453 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage_body.php: *Swap field order
[17:52:08] <Necrogami>	WTF?!
[17:52:14] <Necrogami>	i can't logicly think of a reason why a webhost would autodelete the session data folder every half second
[17:53:13] <NotACow>	that's rather nasty
[17:54:08] <AaronSchulz>	NotACow: ;)
[18:17:30] <MinuteElectron>	Could some please commit the patch to bug 11574 please?
[18:21:14] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26454 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: *Fix copy-pasted doc
[18:22:45] <MinuteElectron>	AaronSchulz: oh, so you don't deal with phase3 code?
[18:23:12] *AaronSchulz 	raises an eyebrow
[18:25:02] <Necrogami>	NotACow, Yeah so you effectively couldn't login to mediawiki
[18:25:11] <Necrogami>	so i had to manually setup and change my session.savepath folder
[18:51:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create a mailing list for Catalan projects in Wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11577 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (toniher)
[18:58:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CheckUser still uses ExtensionFunctions.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11578 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (minuteelectron)
[18:58:28] <MinuteElectron>	AaronSchulz: You may be interested ^^
[19:00:58] <arvernes>	I try to add to the sidebar a special page : Special:Allpages I'm editing the sidebar, but i'm lost with the syntax. For the random page it is written : randompage-url|randampage, so, I'm dunno how to write for that special page. is it : allpages|allpages, or allpages-url|allpages ??
[19:02:08] <Nikerabbit>	arvernes: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sidebar
[19:02:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Restrict page move to autoconfirmed on it.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11575  +comment (10jeluf)
[19:06:50] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: are you busy?
[19:07:14] *arvernes 	trying to understand the explanation on that url 
[19:07:28] <Nikerabbit>	a little
[19:07:39] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: too busy to commit a patch?
[19:07:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restrict page move to autoconfirmed on it.wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11575  (10powerpdn)
[19:08:00] <Nikerabbit>	MinuteElectron: noone else wanted to?
[19:08:19] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: everyone is either away or busy AFAICT.
[19:09:02] <Nikerabbit>	hmp
[19:09:43] <MinuteElectron>	Don't worry if you don't want too, but if you get a chance commiting my patch to bug 11574 would be appreciated. :)
[19:09:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a mailing list for Catalan projects in Wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11577  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[19:10:36] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26455 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.sql): *Doc typos
[19:17:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Problems when trying to save edits in general - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11573  04CRIT->minor; +comment (10jeluf)
[19:25:25] <Zach>	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571 i really hope that a review of my patch wouldn't be too difficult
[19:27:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a mailing list for Catalan projects in Wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11577  (10toniher)
[19:28:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) small change to monobook's main css file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571  minor->trivial (10zach)
[19:42:16] <BeachBoy>	hi, I have a question. I use infoboxes on my mediawiki setup, which use "hiddenstructure" to make sure empty variables are not shown. However they are shown on the site, in red font. Does anyone know how to fix that? I tried installing the parserfunctions extension, but that didn't help
[19:42:27] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r26456 10/trunk/phase3/ (15 files in 2 dirs): 
[19:42:27] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[19:42:27] <CIA-6>	* ca, cy, ext, fo, hr, is, it, ko, pl, ro, sei, shi, sk, tl (new)
[19:42:52] <MinuteElectron>	siebrand: Are you just localisation, or do you commit other code also?
[19:43:16] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: if I could actually code, I'd probably commit more :)
[19:43:43] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: once i dive into how you actually add l10n to an extension, I may commit come code, but I am not a programmer.
[19:43:49] *Jack_Phoenix 	found out how to use TortoiseSVN for patching :o
[19:43:58] <Jack_Phoenix>	now all I need is commit access...whee :D
[19:46:24] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: but managing the translators and exporting and committing localisation costs enough time :)
[19:46:30] <MinuteElectron>	i guess
[19:48:24] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: Nikerabbit writes most of the code (extension Translate), I do promotion for Betawiki in Wikimedia projects, Raymond_ does some committing and he maintains the German translation, rotemliss used to be active, but now basically maintains Hebrew, and I think we recently managed to drag MF-Warburg into some administrative Betawiki stuff.
[19:48:35] <BeachBoy>	anyone any idea on my problem :)? sorry to just interrupt here
[19:48:39] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: last month almost 50 languages has work done inside Betawiki.
[19:49:14] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: I am aiming for regular updates on 100 languages (that is: at least one update per language per 3 months)
[19:50:25] <siebrand>	MinuteElectron: so if you know any people that have high skills in obscure languages... Refer them to betawiki, please :)
[19:52:08] <MinuteElectron>	siebrand: sure :D
[19:52:27] <Jack_Phoenix>	Betawiki is confusing :p
[19:52:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a mailing list for Catalan projects in Wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11577   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:52:35] *Jack_Phoenix 	awaits for Nikerabbit's stab
[19:53:19] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: you have to put in 15 minutes to get to know it. We are always prepared to talk you through the basics... By IRC or Skype, if needed.
[19:53:55] <Jack_Phoenix>	I prefer to do the translation by hand and then poke someone to get it committed :)
[19:57:22] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: too bad.
[20:03:09] <marchelly>	re
[20:04:49] <marchelly>	how to make link on category [[:Category:Foo]] it will show Category:Foo but I need only Foo to be a link
[20:05:12] <marchelly>	without word Category
[20:05:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	[[:Category:Foo|link title here]]
[20:06:25] <marchelly>	how easy ! thanks )
[20:07:08] <Zach>	[[w:What are Little Girls Made Of?]]
[20:07:28] <Zach>	wrong channel, but fun article for all
[20:15:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add project namespace alias ("Wikipedia") for Haitian Creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10905  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:17:30] <marchelly>	what I have to do to my wiki to enable it show <categorytree>Foo</categorytree> tag
[20:17:45] <marchelly>	as AJAX droplist
[20:17:54] <Jack_Phoenix>	download the CategoryTree extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
[20:19:26] <marchelly>	thanks.
[20:23:20] <NotAcomputer>	how do I make my wiki not display the IP userpage and talk for this IP links?
[20:24:03] <MinuteElectron>	!configuration | NotAcomputer 
[20:24:03] <mwbot>	NotAcomputer : Currently MediaWiki can be configured by using variables in LocalSettings.php. A full list of settings is available at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings>. A web-based configuration panel is planned but does not yet exist.
[20:24:31] <NotAcomputer>	I haven't found the $wg yet
[20:24:41] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgShowIPinHeader <--- set $wgShowIPinHeader = false; I guess
[20:25:02] <NotAcomputer>	thanks
[20:25:18] <MinuteElectron>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgShowIPinHeader
[20:25:21] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: :@
[20:25:31] <MinuteElectron>	>:(
[20:25:33] *Jack_Phoenix 	grins
[20:33:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) FindSpam extension: add credits, convert to normal $wgSpecialPages and $wgAutoloadClasses usage - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11579 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (wikia.jack)
[20:33:46] <Jack_Phoenix>	yay, my first patch ^
[20:38:00] <Nikerabbit>	yay
[20:41:29] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: Still not in the mood to submit a patch? :)
[20:43:26] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r26457 10/trunk/extensions/ (44 files in 40 dirs): 
[20:43:26] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[20:43:26] <CIA-6>	* Fixes and additions to 40 extensions for ca, ext, fo, hsb, is, it, kk-kz, pl, sk, tet.
[20:44:40] <Nikerabbit>	MinuteElectron: I'm fixing the thousand and one errors in translations...
[20:44:56] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: no fi :<
[20:45:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	oh yeah...I did fi translation for this one extension...now what was it again...
[20:46:04] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: at appears that no work was done, or taht I messed it in the RC. Like I said: it's hard to spot all languages with changes...
[20:46:27] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: I may also be missing fi on purpose to make that point... ;)
[20:47:03] <AzaTht>	daily update of bug 5678: It's still there
[20:47:21] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: :D
[20:47:24] *NotACow 	giggles
[20:47:35] <Jack_Phoenix>	AzaTht: so that's the way to get the (lazy) devs to take action? ;-)
[20:47:50] <AzaTht>	Jack_Phoenix: hehe, have tried on a week now
[20:48:14] <AzaTht>	Jack_Phoenix: 5678 is the pain in the ass bug
[20:48:24] <Jack_Phoenix>	=/
[20:48:56] <AzaTht>	patch exists, but someone though it mayby in some unknown situation wouldn't perhaps work perfectly
[20:49:08] <AzaTht>	maybe*
[20:49:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (wikia.jack)
[20:49:46] <Jack_Phoenix>	Nikerabbit: happy now? :) ^
[20:50:13] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: no
[20:50:19] <Jack_Phoenix>	aww :(
[20:50:33] <Nikerabbit>	someone has to commit it :E
[20:50:41] <Jack_Phoenix>	{{youfixit}}
[20:50:56] <NotACow>	nobody is willing to make that much of a commitment :)
[20:52:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Colon functions: undefined parameter (default) values clobbered - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5678  high->highest; +comment (10azatoth)
[20:52:47] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: looks like that diff has an encoding issue. But please don't consider using Betawiki... This is much easier :)
[20:53:04] *AzaTht 	waits for rob to act....
[20:53:16] *Jack_Phoenix 	just found out how to create patches; don't except them to be perfect :P
[20:53:31] <Moniker42>	how do i add/change items on the navigation bar to the left of the wiki?
[20:54:20] <NotAcomputer>	Moniker42 edit MediaWiki:Sidebar
[20:54:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580  +comment (10siebrand)
[20:54:33] <Moniker42>	NotAcomputer, where's that?
[20:54:43] <NotAcomputer>	just go to the search bar and type it in
[20:55:11] <Moniker42>	k
[20:55:23] <Moniker42>	hey, perfect! :)
[20:57:59] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r26458 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: * Fix corruption
[20:58:06] <AzaTht>	NotAcomputer: is that your real nic, or is it just a pathetic wannabe? 
[20:58:12] <AzaTht>	nick*
[20:58:12] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r26459 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Update to French localisation and rebuilt.
[20:58:15] <markusN>	hi - I have the problem of a bot subscribing with random names (from random IPs), but always pointing to somerandomname@list.ru or somerandomname@mail.ru
[20:58:32] <markusN>	can I block list.ru and mail.ru entirely from subscribing?
[20:58:39] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r26460 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (SpecialMagic.php Translate.i18n.php): Added help message
[20:59:01] <markusN>	neither found a FAQ nor an Extention
[20:59:09] <markusN>	they even work around a captcha
[20:59:26] *markusN 	wonders what they do on his wiki
[21:00:28] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: hehe
[21:00:42] *Jack_Phoenix 	grumbles and stabs UTF-8
[21:02:48] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: no, you should stab latin-9
[21:04:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580  +comment (10wikia.jack)
[21:04:17] *Jack_Phoenix 	hopes he got that right
[21:04:57] <Raymond_>	Jack_Phoenix: still wrong encoding :-/
[21:05:20] <Jack_Phoenix>	gaah
[21:06:25] <Jack_Phoenix>	Raymond_: suggestions how to fix it? I'm /quite/ lost with the encoding as I just learned how to make patches...
[21:07:25] <Nikerabbit>	heh, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Localisation vs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Localization
[21:07:30] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: which editor?
[21:07:38] <Jack_Phoenix>	Notepad++
[21:07:54] <Raymond_>	Jack_Phoenix: I like jEdit
[21:08:12] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: select utf-8 when opening and saving the file
[21:08:17] <Raymond_>	use UTF-8 encondig (without BOMs)
[21:08:26] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: grumble grumble
[21:10:23] <Nikerabbit>	MinuteElectron: bumble bee?
[21:10:58] <MinuteElectron>	heh
[21:11:03] <MinuteElectron>	I mucked up my namespaces.
[21:12:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580  +comment (10wikia.jack)
[21:13:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	^let's hope it works or else...
[21:13:07] *Jack_Phoenix 	gets his knife out
[21:14:03] <NotAcomputer>	AzaTht it's one of my nicks
[21:14:35] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: now it's ok. I'd still like to argue that Betawiki will be a lot easier for you :)
[21:14:58] <MinuteElectron>	Manual database hacking ftw.
[21:15:03] <siebrand>	Jack_Phoenix: unless you are going to track all SVN commits to see which messages were added, etc.
[21:15:14] <Jack_Phoenix>	siebrand: yay, thanks for pointing that bug in the bugfix out; I'd have never discovered it :)
[21:17:11] <Raymond_>	Jack_Phoenix: encoding is good now but you are inserting BOMs in line 1 :-/
[21:17:31] <Raymond_>	-<?php
[21:17:32] <Jack_Phoenix>	...this cannot be...
[21:17:33] <Raymond_>	+<?php
[21:21:10] <CIA-6>	03nikerabbit * r26461 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFi.php: * Updates
[21:28:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	Raymond_: is the BOM still there: http://jackphoenix.com/contribs.patch ? I think I managed to get rid of it...but I'm no developer and...
[21:30:14] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: The correct file extension is .diff BTW.
[21:30:23] <Jack_Phoenix>	ah
[21:30:24] <MinuteElectron>	And yes, there is still a BOM.
[21:30:27] <Raymond_>	Jack_Phoenix: yes. still in line 1. 
[21:30:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	>_<
[21:30:34] <Nikerabbit>	:D
[21:30:36] <Jack_Phoenix>	stupid TortoiseSVN and notepad++
[21:30:39] *Jack_Phoenix 	stabs
[21:30:49] *Raymond_ 	wanders off to bed now. good night all
[21:30:54] <Jack_Phoenix>	I chose UTF (without BOM) and Unix - can't you stupid text editor get it?!
[21:31:02] <Jack_Phoenix>	'night Raymond_ :)
[21:31:24] <Raymond_>	tortoiseSVN is innocent. it's the texteditor, always
[21:36:08] <Moniker42>	anyone know of a good howto on categories?
[21:36:21] <AzaTht>	BOM?
[21:36:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	[[w:Byte order mark]]
[21:37:13] <Nikerabbit>	bits over mermaids
[21:39:04] <AzaTht>	oki
[21:39:24] <Telemac>	Hello, is there syntax way to add a link to a page on a image ?
[21:39:43] <AzaTht>	yes
[21:39:49] <AzaTht>	use imagemap
[21:40:06] <markusN>	Hello, how to block a domain from subscribing? (with various IPs, so only name check would work)
[21:40:13] <Melvster>	how do i display a string containing the title in Monobook.php?
[21:40:36] <AzaTht>	Melvster: please rephrase that question.
[21:40:55] <Melvster>	how do i output some text in monobook,php, including wgTitle
[21:41:03] <AzaTht>	output where?
[21:41:07] <Melvster>	in the <head>
[21:41:28] <AzaTht>	headnode.appendChild( funkyElement );
[21:41:29] <Melvster>	i want to add <link rel=foo href="/$title"/>
[21:42:19] <Melvster>	hmm so which file would i change?
[21:42:22] <Melvster>	output to screen
[21:42:30] <AzaTht>	aha
[21:42:35] <AzaTht>	saw it wrong
[21:42:37] <AzaTht>	wait
[21:43:00] <AzaTht>	skins/Monobook.php
[21:43:07] <Melvster>	am there
[21:43:10] <Telemac>	AzaTht: Thanx, is there any other way ? Imagemap is a little bit complicated for user who juste want a link on the whole image
[21:43:20] <AzaTht>	Telemac: no
[21:43:32] <Telemac>	:(
[21:43:44] <AzaTht>	using imagemap for just one links is a bit of a lousy hack, but...
[21:43:51] <AzaTht>	lack of alternatives
[21:44:08] <Melvster>	$this->text('pagetitle') ?
[21:44:36] <AzaTht>	you should have a $wgTitle object if I'm not misstaken
[21:44:43] <AzaTht>	but perhaps it's imported
[21:45:03] <Melvster>	hmmm
[21:45:07] <Melvster>	but page title is not the string i want
[21:45:17] <Melvster>	that gives me Title - server
[21:45:21] <Melvster>	i want just title
[21:45:28] <Melvster>	any idea which variable
[21:46:27] <Melvster>	eg the string from var wgTitle
[21:46:34] <Melvster>	or ver wgPageName
[21:47:41] <Telemac>	AzaTht: Anyway to prevent normal image rendering from surounding image with a link to the image page ?
[21:48:39] <ialex>	Melvster: $wgTitle->getLocalURL() or $wgTitle->getPrefixedText()
[21:49:05] <Jack_Phoenix>	YAY!
[21:49:08] <Jack_Phoenix>	BOM killed!
[21:50:13] <AzaTht>	Telemac: prefix the image name with a colon
[21:50:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580  +comment (10wikia.jack)
[21:53:04] <Telemac>	AzaTht: [[:Image:MyImage]] ? Doesn't it make a link to the image ? 
[21:57:59] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: Well done.
[21:58:35] <Jack_Phoenix>	I cannot believe I managed to completely screw up about the simplest possible patch... *blush*
[21:58:42] <Melvster>	thanks
[22:01:07] <Jack_Phoenix>	...
[22:01:18] <Jack_Phoenix>	so when I get no BOM, the encoding is screwed up
[22:01:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	and when the encoding is OK, there's a BOM
[22:01:34] <Jack_Phoenix>	[[uncyclopedia:AAAAAAAA!]]
[22:09:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Finnish i18n for Contributionseditcount - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11580  +comment (10wikia.jack)
[22:09:46] <Jack_Phoenix>	^That *has* to work....or else...
[22:09:56] *Jack_Phoenix 	stabs the creator of Notepad++, just in case
[22:11:01] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: that's why we use better tools :D
[22:11:10] <Jack_Phoenix>	right on
[22:11:24] <Jack_Phoenix>	notepad++ apparently works sometimes, and sometimes...not
[22:12:25] <Jack_Phoenix>	I should have another patch here for DismissableSiteNotice...no BOMs this time since I didn't add any funny Finnish characters, such as ä or ö ;)
[22:14:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) $wgExtensionCredits for DismissableSiteNotice - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11581 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DismissableSiteNotice; (wikia.jack)
[22:20:31] <davidmccabe>	Why are some stylesheets included in the page with <link rel="stylesheet">, and others with <style>@import</style>?
[22:22:47] <Jutiphan>	Hi everyone
[22:23:09] <Jutiphan>	I am from Thai Wikipedia
[22:23:25] <Jutiphan>	We would like to redirect Special:Upload to Wikipedia:Upload like the way English Wikipedia and others do them
[22:23:31] <Jutiphan>	however, cannot figure out how to do that.
[22:23:35] <Jutiphan>	Anyone here has any ideas?
[22:26:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) User Rights Email Notification: update extension credit URL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11582 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (wikia.jack)
[22:26:21] *Jack_Phoenix 	hopes for the best...
[22:26:25] <Jack_Phoenix>	that's a simple patch :)
[22:26:39] <Jack_Phoenix>	I possibly cannot have screwed that, right Nikerabbit? :)
[22:27:21] <Jutiphan>	??
[22:29:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set logo for Hawaiian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11583 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (singularityfromwikipedia)
[22:30:21] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: You cocked up again. :S
[22:30:26] <Jack_Phoenix>	...
[22:30:44] <MinuteElectron>	There are two BOM's this time...
[22:30:52] <Jack_Phoenix>	...just...awesome...
[22:31:02] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26462 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: *wtf? how did this last?
[22:31:04] <MinuteElectron>	JOKING LMFAO!
[22:31:20] <MinuteElectron>	Jack_Phoenix: It is good code :)
[22:31:50] <Jack_Phoenix>	ooh, not possible :o
[22:36:45] <davidmccabe>	nm, found it.
[22:36:54] *Jack_Phoenix 	wonders when brion or Rob bother to stab him for committing shitty patches...
[22:41:53] <MZMcBride>	Jutiphan: To change the sidebar, it requires a dev i believe
[22:42:34] <MZMcBride>	and on en.wiki, Special:Upload is still possible; it's not a redirect
[22:45:56] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26463 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount.i18n.php ConfirmAccount_body.php): 
[22:45:56] <CIA-6>	*Update per typo fix
[22:45:56] <CIA-6>	*Fix label escaping
[22:48:22] <CIA-6>	03david * r26464 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[22:48:22] <CIA-6>	Now displays a TOC if there are more than three threads. Moved LQT-related CSS
[22:48:22] <CIA-6>	back into its own file (I forget why I moved it into main.css before), for
[22:48:22] <CIA-6>	extensification and just because it's more managable that way. The TOC is pretty
[22:48:22] <CIA-6>	ugly, so CSS tweaks are coming.
[22:48:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Review extension: add URL to $wgExtensionCredits, remove ending ?> tag and tweak comments - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11584 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (wikia.jack)
[22:48:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	AaronSchulz: wanna test that? ^ ;)
[22:48:50] <Nikerabbit>	uggah
[22:49:21] <AaronSchulz>	Jack_Phoenix: simple enough
[22:49:33] <Jack_Phoenix>	:)
[22:49:53] <CIA-6>	03david * r26465 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (18 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[22:49:53] <CIA-6>	Merged revisions 26448-26464 via svnmerge from
[22:49:53] <CIA-6>	svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3
[22:49:53] <CIA-6>	........
[22:49:53] <CIA-6>	 r26456 | siebrand | 2007-10-06 12:42:14 -0700 (Sat, 06 Oct 2007) | 2 lines
[22:49:54] <CIA-6>	 Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:49:56] <CIA-6>	 * ca, cy, ext, fo, hr, is, it, ko, pl, ro, sei, shi, sk, tl (new)
[22:51:10] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26466 10/trunk/extensions/Review/Review.php: 
[22:51:10] <CIA-6>	*Link to extension page
[22:51:10] <CIA-6>	*Kill ?>
[22:51:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Review extension: add URL to $wgExtensionCredits, remove ending ?> tag and tweak comments - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11584  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[22:51:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	yay! :D
[22:52:25] <AaronSchulz>	someone needs to get that working decent in other skins
[22:52:31] <TheMiNd>	Why isn't this template working?  What have I done wrong in copying it off wikipedia.org?  http://wiki.umtrpc.org/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_Vampire (see display issues at: http://wiki.umtrpc.org/index.php?title=Allen_Parker)  Is there a similar template anywhere that will do the same thing for me?
[22:52:32] <Led_Hed>	how do I create a link in an artivle to another category?
[22:53:48] <NotAcomputer>	Led_Hed [[:Category:Category]]
[22:54:07] <NotAcomputer>	the preceding colon doesn't make the article part of the category
[22:54:24] <Led_Hed>	NotAcomputer, I tried that but the article only seems to allow one of those.
[22:54:36] <Led_Hed>	oh
[22:54:45] <Led_Hed>	sorry didnt see the preceeding colon
[22:56:35] <Led_Hed>	NotAcomputer, is there a way to change the name: so that is doesnt say "Category:Junk" but rather just "Junk" ?
[22:57:15] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26467 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount_body.php SpecialConfirmAccount.php): *Add $wgAutoUserBioText
[23:01:44] <NotACow>	whee
[23:01:47] <NotACow>	only 754 errors left
[23:02:03] <Nikerabbit>	errors?
[23:07:24] <AaronSchulz>	NotACow: naughty compiler?
[23:15:08] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26468 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount.i18n.php ConfirmAccount_body.php): *Handle sig differently
[23:28:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Colon functions: undefined parameter (default) values clobbered - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5678  highest->high (10robchur)
[23:40:47] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: nah, just the fact that PHP and Java are different languages :)
[23:43:42] <NotACow>	ok, i'm confused by wpDestFileWarningAck
[23:46:14] <NotACow>	aha
[23:46:18] <NotACow>	javascript is involved.
[23:48:09] *NotACow 	is just wondering why UploadForm uses getText and not getBool 
[23:48:27] <NotACow>	seems like it could use getBool since the field is either "" or 1
[23:54:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CAPTCHA should not show for reliable websites - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11585 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (dunc_harris)
[23:56:13] <AaronSchulz>	for what?
[23:57:26] <NotACow>	?
[23:57:56] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: oh, the upload form thing?  lemme get you a source reference
[23:58:46] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: include/SpecialUpload.php, line 69
[23:59:10] <AaronSchulz>	line 69 -> "		}"
[23:59:13] <AaronSchulz>	;)
[23:59:24] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: in r25637 :)