[00:01:21] it is weird that the logo appears in non-shortened pages, but in shortened pages it is gone. It has something to do with the programming in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Page_title_--_PHP_as_a_CGI_module%2C_no_root_access, it is conflicting for some reason... [00:02:04] can anyone help me with my issue? [00:02:15] davidmccabe: thanks for your help, flushing the cache in the db fixed the issue [00:02:37] elliot: great. [00:02:39] david, could I modify the skin? I have monoskin. [00:03:02] i mean monobook, heh heh [00:05:30] 03vrandezo * r26673 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_NAry.php: NAry export bug fixed [00:06:16] well, thanks anyway [00:08:28] anyone know anything about the whole Beurocrats thing within Mediawiki? [00:09:47] its in User Right management [00:09:51] Special:Userrights [00:22:44] 03david * r26674 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (12 files): Copied files over from the branch; rewrote README. [00:41:47] XDuxaX: bureaucrats can grant privileges to other users - sommethilng like that [00:43:15] odes: great site [00:44:59] hey thanks jlerner [00:45:14] 1000 of hours and $300 a yer [00:45:18] year [00:45:24] have a great evening [00:45:29] i just downloaded south park [00:45:46] going to watch the latest issue bit torret rocks [00:47:01] 03(mod) Whitespace should be fixed automatically - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11498 (10oq9pscb02) [00:52:46] 03david * r26675 10/branches/liquidthreads/: This same code is now at /mediawiki/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads on this repository. [00:59:27] 03david * r26676 10/branches/liquidthreads-obsolete/: Obsolete. Gone. [01:45:27] 03david * r26677 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LqtPages.php README): Made namespace numbers customizable from LocalSettings. [02:21:10] hi, got some kind of emergency here...can I rebuild the imagelinks table somehow? [02:24:08] anyone? [02:29:44] there is a script on your maintenance folder [02:29:51] rebuildLinks.php, IIRC [02:30:07] I just ran rebuildall...hope that fixed my problems... [02:30:14] that should do it [02:30:27] it just calls all the scripts, basically [02:31:22] now I have something really strange [02:31:48] in a page I have an image (just the link, image doesn't exist yet) [02:32:13] usually it calls the upload form but now it jumps back to the Main Page ?? [02:33:45] any click on a non (yet) existing image ends up at the main page [02:35:24] mw kills me... [02:51:52] I just uploaded in my local copy an image, then I uploaded the complete image subdir and a complete sql dump to the live server. the image seems to load...I see a frame in the image dimension shortly but then it only show the imagelink again...? [03:03:45] Aaargh! Spammers are corrupting my wiki, again! [03:04:13] Is there any way to put on one of those "type in the word in the box" for account creation? [03:04:20] I think these are bots creating accounts. [03:04:28] And there is no way to delete accounts, either. [03:04:35] all i can say is that those are CAPTCHAS [03:04:38] It's so sad to disable account creation. [03:04:55] CAPTCHA is capitols, i'm not yelling :) [03:04:59] Yeah, is there a way to put a CAPTCHA on mediawiki? [03:05:05] that's hte part i don't konw [03:05:08] :) [03:05:14] there's an extension for that [03:05:16] Well, I've got to disable account creation, I guess. [03:05:19] Oh, there is? [03:05:25] How hard are extensions to install? [03:05:28] I've never done that before. [03:05:32] depends on the extension [03:06:16] !badword add fuck [03:06:16] You don't have permission to do that. [03:06:19] Say, for example, a CAPTCHA extension... :) [03:06:19] opps [03:06:21] wrong channel [03:06:22] xD [03:06:31] *slaps myself* [03:06:32] rm -rf / [03:06:36] Oops, wrong window [03:06:39] *wad giggles [03:06:42] no [03:06:43] seriosuly [03:06:51] i'm adding words to my chanell's autoban bot [03:06:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [03:07:25] Sweet, thanks Titoxd! [03:13:59] how can I purge all pages? [03:21:32] Hmm. I added that extensions, but now I get this error: [03:21:32] Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfMemcKey() in /var/lib/mediawiki1.7/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php on line 358 [03:23:54] Bah. Looks like ConfirmEdit isn't compatible with 1.7, even though it says it is. [03:46:53] Aaargh. This is so annoying. How does anyone use the capcha at all? I just get errors: Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfMemcKey() in /web/domain.org/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit.php on line 348 [03:47:10] I tried the old version someone mentioned on the talk page, but it does absolutely nothing at all. [03:49:21] do you have any php stuffs installed wad ? [03:49:29] yes [03:49:31] pgp5 [03:49:34] php5, even [03:49:37] because it could be the reason why [03:49:39] use recaptcha, it's much simpler [03:49:49] Okay, I'll try it out [03:51:33] is recaptcha a wikimedia extension? [03:52:32] it's available here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA [03:52:38] thanks! [03:52:40] but alas you need mediawiki 1.8 or newer [03:52:47] oh [03:52:49] I have 1.7 [03:52:55] How hard is it to upgrade? [03:53:15] not very; though it depends on how much you've changed the system files [03:53:47] hardly at all. [03:53:48] if you've kept everything mostly the same and only really changed things via the mediawiki: namespace, it's pretty trivial to update [03:53:59] okay, looks like I'll be doing that. [03:54:03] Spammers are killing my wiki. [03:54:49] Is it just a matter of replacing files? [03:55:08] you backup first [03:55:32] unzip the new files, and then either run update.php or re-run the installer via config/index.php [03:55:51] btw, you can always use $wgReadOnly to lock the db immediately [03:56:20] it's all laid-out on mediawiki.org.... [03:56:32] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading_to_1.11 [03:58:09] just make sure you copy over your images directory and extensions directory [03:58:24] and update any extensions that are old or outdated [04:01:44] ok [04:01:45] thanks [04:04:22] 14(INVALID) isAllowed hook - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11609 +comment (10aran) [04:24:53] The real link is /wiki/"Driver_(video_game)" but it comes out like this "Driver_%28video_game%29" Is there anyway to stop this it looks ugly. I'm thinking it may not be possible because this is how the internet works. [04:27:37] madness: that's how the internet works :) [04:28:04] :( dam! :P - Creator of the internet. [04:33:42] don't diss al gore, he just won the peace prize after all :) [04:35:00] If his movie was free everyone would know about global warming :P [04:35:11] yet, we have to pay the price to know about it :( [06:09:57] Wow .. is that not just the pertiest graph you've ever seen? [06:10:02] *amidaniel tosses himself a cookie [06:11:06] 06* madness grabs that cookie01 [06:11:15] bastard [06:11:17] *amidaniel smacks madness [06:11:33] 06lol :P [06:17:35] amidaniel: um. [06:17:35] no. [06:17:47] :( [06:18:41] Hey, so when are we gonna switch to a real VCS? [06:18:46] where by 'real' I mean 'distributed'. [06:19:18] *amidaniel personally doesn't have a problem with SVN [06:19:37] amidaniel: My daily merge takes ten minutes. [06:19:56] davidmccabe: did you merge liquidthreads branch with main trunk? [06:20:00] amidaniel: Also, places like Wikia that have their own private branches have a hell of a time. [06:20:08] VasilievVV: Yep. LQT is now simply an extension. [06:20:23] I tried out lqt, btw .. nifty stuff [06:20:29] thanks. [06:20:30] Lots and lots of bugs .. but nifty :) [06:20:36] oh really? [06:20:39] davidmccabe: congrats [06:20:43] Thanks. [06:20:53] davidmccabe: None of the administrative tools seem to work. Delete and whatnot [06:21:03] That's odd. [06:21:03] *VasilievVV hopes to see it somewhere [06:21:12] VasilievVV: it's live on wikieducator.org [06:21:24] amidaniel: Could you report the bugs on the wiki please? [06:21:41] *amidaniel growls at davidmccabe for screaming at him not to make a live install public only to make one public himself >:() [06:21:46] 06I was playing with a admin tool yesterday :P It was showing me wiki changes in realtime. [06:21:55] davidmccabe: Meh, I'm lazy .. let me see if I get around to it :) [06:21:57] amidaniel: huh? [06:22:15] amidaniel: That was months ago, man. [06:22:20] Still [06:22:24] davidmccabe: I know. I also installed it on local wiki. I meant producion usage. [06:22:25] *amidaniel holds grudges for a long time :) [06:22:35] I mean, projects change. [06:22:48] madness: What's with the purple? It's making my eyes bleed. [06:23:11] *davidmccabe has got to go. [06:23:14] amidaniel: do report those bugs, please. [06:23:19] Will do :) [06:23:21] Take care [06:23:24] blast [06:24:23] 06I have no idea why this changed to purple I'll try to change it back... I think I copied and pasted something which was purple. [06:24:37] madness: please stop colouring your text [06:24:47] 10 01madness: please stop colouring your text [06:24:52] I just had to copy something :P [06:24:53] madness: Now you're invisible [06:25:01] Back now :) [06:25:09] *amidaniel tosses madness a cookie [06:25:14] yay :P [06:25:33] madness gives it back to 06 amidaniel01 and is sorry about before. [06:25:51] *amidaniel glares at the purple [06:26:10] well your name is purplue when you do that thing, :P I'm not sure what you call it [06:26:30] What on earth irc client are you using? [06:26:33] something you did which is different from typing a normal message [06:26:39] I'm using Trillian :P [06:26:44] aha [06:26:51] *amidaniel makes a mental note to avoid it [06:27:03] It's achually pretty good. [06:27:16] Clearly :P [06:27:39] I have one aim account, 2 yahoo IM account, 3msn account one ICQ account and activly using IRC's in one simple program :P [07:27:49] 03mkroetzsch * r26678 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): cleaned up css, renamed some classes according to current terminology [07:28:45] On my wiki, everysingle time I put something on a page and use enter once it seems to go on the same line. Yet when I use enter twice it goes on the line after the next line. Anyone know why this is happening and how it can be resolved. [07:29:28] that's normal. "line after the next line" is a new paragraph, which is indicated by two newlines [07:30:11] 03mkroetzsch * r26679 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (12 files): [07:30:11] Simplified code: added suitable functions for formerly abstract functions in base class; fixed sorting issue [07:30:11] fo datetimes [07:30:26] if you want a single newline inside the same paragraph for some reason, you can write
[07:30:54] ok, thanks :P [07:31:14] I'm doing directory listings and when I want a new line it looks weird using enter twice. [07:32:05] there is alos
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if you want to preserve formatting literally [07:33:33] both work great thanks! pre tag is a bit annoying site it puts a box around it but it'll do :P [07:47:19] re [07:47:19] *amidaniel stabs his writer's block [07:51:34] oh no [07:51:42] here come the police [07:52:06] who here is the snitch? [07:57:53] why are the police arresting you over a stabed block :S [08:11:34] 03mkroetzsch * r26680 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/skins/images/info.png: new icon for displaying informative quicklinks [08:42:07] 03mkroetzsch * r26681 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Provide more information at Special:Types (unit lists, warnings for broken types), support info-tooltips [08:48:58] 03mkroetzsch * r26682 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/QueryPages/SMW_SpecialTypes.php: Exclude redirect pages from listing of user defined types [08:59:10] 03mkroetzsch * r26683 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/QueryPages/SMW_SpecialProperties.php: Simplify warning tooltips, especially avoid nested ones ... [09:14:45] 03mkroetzsch * r26684 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (8 files): Added translate-me message stubs to all languages [09:14:49] <_wooz> lo [09:17:23] does anyone know how I can create an info box like this on wikipedia = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke | Except I wouldn't be needing all that information just adding different fields, like games developerd, role. [09:17:39] but not for wikipedia for my own wiki :P [09:18:11] I know wikipedia uses all this template: stuff [09:56:21] 03siebrand * r26685 10/trunk/phase3/ (18 files in 3 dirs): [09:56:21] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [09:56:21] * bcl, br, cy, dsb, fo, fr, hy, inh (new), is, nah, scn, sdc, sei, tet, tl, war [09:56:25] Hi, i have a problem with cookies. I logged in but sometimes show not logged, sometimes show logged. I write new article and push save, it says "there is error about logging in, try again.." [09:56:32] what can i do for that? [09:57:15] i ask that for my wiki [09:57:36] does it happen to anyone else using your wiki? [09:57:50] i dont know but i think only do that for me [09:57:57] bcz no one said that [09:58:08] which browser are you using? [09:58:17] firefox but i used explorer too [09:58:21] and problem again:( [09:58:28] so you had the problem with both browsers? [09:58:42] but IE gives error too? [09:58:56] i tryed ie too [09:59:46] hmm... I'm not sure what you can do about this, hopefully someone else can help you. [09:59:57] thanks for answering [09:59:59] ok [10:01:00] If it's doing it on both browsers it sounds like wikipedia itself. And could because you changed some cookie settings, if you changed no settings then I cannot help you target the problem. [10:01:08] hey guys - new to mediawiki.. how do i go about calling a special class say Popularpages? [10:01:29] How does the "personal message" work in mediawiki [10:01:37] i dont change cookies options [10:01:44] or does it require some mod [10:01:54] I think /wiki/index.php?title=Special:Popularpages [10:02:03] you can get a personal message on your Talk page. [10:02:04] no as in.. inside a php page [10:02:26] when someone else edits your talk page it says you have a new message, and that's it. However it is not private... :S [10:02:32] k [10:03:06] i want to include the data that is shown /wiki/index.php?title=Special:Popularpages on another page [10:03:58] I'm quite new to MediaWiki myself and I'm not sure how this could be achieved. [10:04:14] Hi ! [10:04:24] umm.. Hello =D [10:04:44] I've a little question. I searched, but I don't find anywhere [10:04:47] maybe mediawiki can support the html for an iframe. [10:04:48] 03(NEW) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vasilvv) [10:04:48] 03(mod) Create the group "test-sysop" for the Wikimedia Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10727 (10vasilvv) [10:05:07] does mw have a plugin system ? [10:05:16] need ACL support [10:05:21] someone know how to remove on the main page the welcome on the top ? [10:05:34] 03rotem * r26686 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [10:05:49] I think you could make something else the main page and that would fix that. [10:06:14] the link to that page is Main_Page so that is displayed as the title. [10:06:28] u can look common.css [10:06:45] 14(WFM) Makesysop crosswiki functions should be optional - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11373 +comment (10vasilvv) [10:06:46] 03(mod) Create the group "test-sysop" for the Wikimedia Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10727 (10vasilvv) [10:07:58] thanks madness, but could you please be more explicit ? [10:09:16] I'm not sure if MediaWiki supports full html so I'll just check to see if this is possible for you pmavro. [10:11:02] Ok thanks madness. I've found common.php on my mediawiki... I'm waiting for you [10:12:39] 03huji * r26687 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Adding new translation to MessagesFa.php [10:13:36] sorry, an overload of messages must of gotten me confused who I was speaking too. 10ddenkel01 who told you to go into common.php. [10:14:38] I think it me for common.php madness [10:14:40] :-) [10:15:51] erm... 10ddenkel01 suggested you to go into common.php I have no idea what would do next. :( [10:16:38] 03nikerabbit * r26688 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: * Update changed variable name [10:16:44] Personally I think you cannot remove it. Unless you remove it for all the pages. [10:17:02] If you want to edit it and make it something different you could make a new page on your wiki and make that the start page. [10:17:35] medness ok thanks, no worries, I'll searched again, because my common.php is empty. I could I make a new page my start page ? [10:17:37] please [10:17:55] are you wanting to have a different title? [10:18:29] not just remove it [10:18:57] if possible like on wikipedia [10:19:03] Werdna: dead? [10:20:06] I don't think that's possible, otherwise it'll remove it for all pages. I'm thinking maybe you could come back in about 20 and maybe there well be some more people avaliable who are professionals at MediaWiki. I'll see what you mean by looking on wikipedia page.. [10:20:59] you'll have to ask someone else soon, because I have no idea how they done it on wikipedia. [10:22:07] 03siebrand * r26689 10/trunk/extensions/ (7 files in 6 dirs): [10:22:07] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [10:22:07] * Fixes and additions to 6 extensions for ar, br, fo, tet [10:22:11] 03rotem * r26690 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Added accesskey and tooltip for the "Go" button, and tooltip for the "Search" button. [10:22:23] I might have an idea... I'll double check my theory... [10:23:03] ok thanks [10:23:05] my theory didn't work :( [10:24:39] damn :-( [10:25:00] I'm sure if you re ask your question soon someone will answer... [10:25:45] and if you pacient and don't mind waiting a day for an answer you can always go to the mediawiki forum at www.mwuser.com/forums/ [10:26:57] thank you very much madness ! [10:30:06] Hello Everybody [10:30:12] hi [10:30:13] hello :P [10:30:50] I can't embed internal images [10:30:54] please help [10:31:17] what tag do you use to embed the images? and have you even embeded a image before? [10:31:18] what ever i do, just the image name shown [10:31:48] madness: not embedded an image in mediawiki [10:32:22] what do you use to embedded an image? [10:32:23] i mean i haven't embedded an image in mediawiki before [10:32:59] [/wiki/Image:Openmokoframework.png [[Image:Openmokoframework.png]]] [10:33:27] ok, then if you are doing the exzact samething as you previosly did, and haven't changed any configiration settings then I may not be able to help you. [10:33:33] THat tag dosen't look right... [10:33:51] madness: ohh [10:34:17] hello [10:34:20] I think you have to use the inbuilt upload file feature... [10:34:25] hello meithal [10:34:46] madness: why is that? [10:34:54] raddy why don't you simply use: [[Image:Openmokoframework.png]] [10:34:56] [[Image:filename.jpg]] [10:35:21] then it's an external link under mediawiki and you have to uise the external link feature. [10:35:33] using the full image address [10:36:06] hmm.. can you even embed an external image? [10:36:31] Hey madness !! [10:36:33] just type in Special:Upload in search. and press go [10:36:38] I found it and it works :-) [10:36:43] and then upload your image and use the filename in that tag. [10:36:45] why when i send a modification to the db with XMLHttpRequest, i don't see the update instantanely after the page refreshing, and when i request the wikicode after the modification, the modification is not in the textarea (but present in the history). I must purge somewhere in the POST request ? [10:36:47] here is the link : http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4058&highlight=remove+title [10:36:49] Hojjat: that didn't help. it just showed the image name [10:36:56] thanks again for your help :-) [10:37:00] ok, pmavro. :P Goof Work then :P [10:37:07] raddy, are you sure that file is really uploaded? [10:37:09] *Good Finding should I say [10:37:21] Hojjat: via ftp. [10:37:29] should do it via mediawiki [10:37:36] special:upload [10:37:40] meithal can you give an example? [10:37:44] Hojjat: to /wiki/images folder [10:37:54] raddy no it is not acceptable [10:38:00] you should upload it using Special:Upload [10:38:07] the files are uploaded "to the database" not to a folder [10:38:32] Hojjat : wgServer+wgScriptPath+'/index.php?title='+encodeURIComponent(wgPageName)+'&action=raw'+'§ion='+numSection is the ask request [10:38:47] Hojjat ohh [10:39:12] meithal, I meant, where do you do it? In a page in your wiki, or something? [10:39:32] raddy: and if uploads are disable you'll need to set an uploads setting to true in LocalSettings.php [10:39:53] Hojjat : yes i request he wikicode with a XMLHttpRequest with a dblclick on a heading [10:40:21] madness: how can i enable it in LocalSettings.php? [10:40:48] raddy, first make sure they are disabled [10:40:56] madness: for just a single image should i undergo this much pain [10:41:14] i change the wikicode, send it to the server by a submit button, then when i make a new request to the wikicode, there is no modification (only after an action=purge) [10:41:17] well you do it all once you'll never have to do it again, changing settings. [10:41:18] madness: it is been disabled, i was notified [10:41:41] meithal: hmm [10:42:15] ok, well you'll have to locate LocalSettings.php and find a way to edit it. Then you'll have to make a value true, I'm not sure what they value is but I'll look it up for you :P [10:43:17] file_uploads must = on [10:43:19] madness: thank you, i can easily access and edit LocalSettings.php [10:43:31] opps... [10:43:38] thats in the php.ini file. [10:43:57] anyways rather than me repeating everything, this page explains everything [10:43:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Prerequisites [10:48:38] madness: Thanks alot, finally after following your solution, the image correctly shown [10:49:04] ok, cool ! :P even a newbie like myself can help you all Muhaha :) [10:50:13] is there a caching feature enabled by default in mediawiki when you submit an edit or request a wikitext ? [10:50:15] how could i get a list of all page names where a non-logged-in user (IP) made the last edit [10:50:41] ah, nevermind [10:51:09] well all I know about chaching things is you can use a Plurge feature. Special:Plurge I think it's that.. [10:52:27] well, i want "Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&hideliu=1" but with the additional feature that it doesnt have any limit at all, and it shows only those edits where the non-logged in user is still "Top" editor [10:59:33] hello there.. can someone help me find out what's wrong with this code? {{#ifexpr:{{{1}}} < 5|%.png|.svg}} [10:59:47] it returns Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{" [11:00:11] hello, does anyone know an alternative to the "Farmer" extension? [11:00:18] I tried it, but it doesn't really work for me [11:01:21] Colin_Finck: the alternative is: do it by hand. [11:01:22] Colin_Finck: DIY? [11:01:39] I do my farm by hand, I might make a better way in the future though. [11:02:02] Waldir: you'll get an expression error if no parameter is provided - use something like {{{1|0}}} to supply a default value [11:02:10] minute-ssh: how do you do it? Is there a guide somewhere? [11:02:18] nope [11:02:24] sure there is [11:02:27] it's even linked in the faq [11:02:53] I want to set up several Wiki's, but with shared user tables [11:02:58] and a shared codebase [11:03:08] Duesentrieb: thanks a lot :) [11:03:26] Colin_Finck: reald the faq. google for "wiki family" and "wiki farm" [11:03:27] Duesentrieb: Hello [11:03:33] *Hojjat waves :) [11:03:33] hello Hojjat [11:03:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family [11:06:09] ok, thanks for your help :) [11:10:57] re : is there a caching feature enabled by default in mediawiki when you submit an edit or request a wikitext ? [11:12:39] i mean need i send an action=purge before each action=raw if i want "fresh" wikitext ? [11:14:26] Hello. Mediawiki can you in my knowledge completely forget [11:14:44] meithal: info is stored in the objectcache table, but it should be invalidated by backend changes [11:15:41] so i must ping this table ? how ? [11:15:54] hey guys is there a clean way to get rid of the "discussion" link on each page? [11:17:24] joobie : #ca-talk {display:none} ? or disabling the talk namespace ? [11:17:55] want to get rid of that button at the top [11:17:59] that says 'discussion' [11:19:15] meithal: I don't think you have to worry about it [11:19:15] hmm [11:19:16] #ca-talk {display:none} [11:19:17] that doesnt work [11:19:28] is there also an easy way for sharing tables between Wiki's or does this require code patching? [11:19:29] joobie : purged ? [11:19:37] ya [11:19:42] did hard refresh [11:20:24] BrokenArrow : i have a bug because of wikitext which is not "fresh" when i request it via XMLHttpRequest on action=raw [11:20:58] action=purge? [11:21:08] RoanKattouw, what's that? [11:21:20] RoanKattouw: sould work, but shouldn't be necessary [11:21:35] joobie go to index.php?title=Article_name&action=purge [11:21:39] That clears the server cache [11:21:45] ahh [11:22:05] 03nikerabbit * r26691 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageBat_smg.php: * Plural for Bat-smg [11:22:20] didnt work [11:22:34] http://www.joobie.org/mediawiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Monobook.css&action=purge [11:22:36] BrokenArrow : maybe the caching bug comes from XMLHttp... ? [11:23:07] joobie : password protected [11:23:33] ya [11:23:39] i mean that is the URL i used [11:23:44] to purge [11:24:10] you used the article path, not the script path [11:24:28] click on the edit tab and replace the edit by purge [11:25:04] 03nikerabbit * r26692 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: * Use proper function instead of a global [11:27:20] 03daniel * r26693 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (4 files): ContactPage now supports LoadAllMessages hook [11:27:38] ahh isee [11:27:56] damn, committed too many files there :/ [11:28:04] 03nikerabbit * r26694 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUndelete.php: * Really support plural in undelete [11:28:06] Duesentrieb: ugh? [11:28:33] Nikerabbit: i meant to commit two things separately - support for LoadAllMessages, and support for captchas on the context page. [11:28:40] .. ok did the purge [11:28:43] the discussion tab is still there [11:28:50] now i committed the captcha stuff along with the message stuff, and with the wrong message :/ [11:29:00] on Special:Blockip i had a red link "Edit block reasons" to "MediaWiki:ipbreason-dropdown" , when i cliked the red link there was the content from the "reason" dropdown menu in there though, so i added a line to it and saved. Now the link is green, but the new reason doesnt seem to appear in the dropdown list, even after reload without cache, i guess this is related to having a wiki configured with case sensitive page names [11:29:18] Nikerabbit: there's no way to fix this really, is there? [11:29:39] Duesentrieb: revert ? [11:30:08] Nikerabbit: yea, wel... but wouldn't that make it even more messy? [11:30:19] "it"? [11:30:27] the change sets [11:30:35] mm dunno [11:31:02] does it matter that much? [11:32:45] mutante MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown really has the new entry, have you checked? [11:33:05] Also, try index.php?tile=Special:Blockip&action=purge [11:33:08] ahh it worked [11:33:08] Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /mounted-storage/home74a/sub002/sc41977-VFUP/www/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1670 [11:33:12] cannot delete images =( [11:33:12] but i had to use !important [11:33:16] (If it's even possible to purge special pages...) [11:33:17] RoanKattouw: yes,it has the new entry [11:33:37] Moniker42 your web server needs permissions to create the deleted/ directory [11:33:52] You need to make sure that your images/ directory is chmod 777 on Unix/Linux [11:33:57] RoanKattouw: also index.php?title=Special:Blockip&action=purge doesnt show it [11:34:06] Weird [11:34:08] RoanKattouw, k *will try* [11:34:32] RoanKattouw: i think its related to having case sensitive page names on my wiki, similar things happened with editing the sidebar [11:34:33] Unable to make a connection. Please try again. [11:34:38] hmph, my FTP is down [11:34:42] mutante go to Special:Allmessages [11:34:50] RoanKattouw: because the case sensitivity setting doesnt apply to the MediaWiki namespace [11:34:53] And look up ipbreason-dropdown [11:36:14] RoanKattouw: on Special:Allmessages the links are red, link to MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown [11:36:34] mutante what text do you see next to ipbreason-dropdown? [11:36:39] And is the link to it red or blue? [11:38:01] MediaWiki:ipbreason-dropdown has my new line in it, [11:38:05] but MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown is being used [11:38:28] 03daniel * r26695 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (4 files): revert of 26693, going to re-commit as two separate change sets [11:38:30] RoanKattouw: http://s23.org/wiki/Special:Allmessages [11:38:32] mutante try to go to index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown [11:39:06] 03daniel * r26696 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ContactPage.php: ContactPage now supports LoadAllMessages hook [11:39:31] mutante what have you added to it? [11:39:45] ** Inserting secret word spammer mark [11:39:56] http://s23.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:ipbreason-dropdown&action=edit [11:40:00] http://s23.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown&action=edit [11:40:04] http://s23.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:ipbreason-dropdown&action=edit has it [11:40:20] Copy it to > http://s23.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ipbreason-dropdown&action=edit [11:40:28] yeah, but i have follow the link from Special:Blockip i end up creating the wrong one [11:41:07] 03nikerabbit * r26697 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: * Removing some globals that seem unused [11:41:57] yay ro diff & patch [11:42:01] *to [11:42:06] RoanKattouw: yes, thanks, it works right away then, the thing is just that if you follow the link from Special:Blockip you first end up creating the wrong page [11:42:08] 03daniel * r26698 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (4 files): Captchas for ContactPage [11:42:31] Yeah well that sucks [11:42:33] IIS? [11:42:50] no, apache [11:43:21] but $wgCapitalLinks = false; [11:43:52] like i said, similar stuff happens when trying to edit the sidebar with $wgCapitalLinks = false; [11:43:56] ^^ [11:44:02] That's weird [11:44:27] CapitalLinks only applies to some namespaces, not all, and that causes confusion in other places,, i take it [11:50:27] RoanKattouw: I'm going to document action=render and action=expandtemplates on [[mw:API]] [11:50:56] Be my guest [12:02:03] *VasilievVV wonders why nobody haven't created {{MW 1.12}} yet [12:10:01] someone was saying images, go into the database when we upload an image into wikipedia. Does that achually go into the database or does it exsist somewhere in the mediawiki directory. | Because they'll make my database oversized... [12:10:42] The image is stored in the uploads directory, the information about the image (name,id,mime etc.) is stored in the datavase. [12:10:45] *database [12:11:01] ok, that's a lot better than what I was thinking. :P [12:11:16] I'd hate to have an oversized database full of the images. [12:11:22] madness you'll find it somewhere in images/5/5b/Imagename.jpg or something similar [12:11:34] The database merely serves to remember the /5/5b part [12:11:39] ok :P, thanks for the info! [12:12:43] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 +comment (10cbrown1023) [12:13:23] RoanKattouw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Expanding_templates_and_rendering [12:14:58] The only problem is with URI [12:16:47] damn [12:17:38] here are my request headers : Cache-Control no-cache, must-revalidate ; Referer http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disc... [12:18:04] and here are the Response Headers : Cache-Control private, s-maxage=0, max-age=2678400 [12:18:17] how can i force the no-cache on the server side ? [12:20:56] VasilevVV fixed [12:21:07] You have to urlencode { as %7B and } as %7D [12:21:18] The breakage was caused by the tags [12:22:22] RoanKattouw: thanks [12:22:40] No problem [12:22:51] I'm gonna document apiedit's action=changerights now [12:24:03] hi, i have a question: can i delete in mw the register for the account? [12:24:20] Privat you mean delete a user? [12:24:38] no register a new account [12:24:49] the link [12:25:20] Privat: the link is the same as for login. it's the same page [12:25:41] you can change the text on the link [12:26:00] RoanKattouw: is there something like format=raw for some modules? [12:26:02] and you can prevent account creation [12:26:17] VasilievVV yeah for all but it doesn't really do anything fancy [12:26:49] i mean i won´t like that new user register a account [12:27:31] Is that possible? Disabling account creation for everyone? [12:27:37] RoanKattouw: sure [12:27:41] k [12:27:43] How then? [12:27:43] thx [12:27:44] !access [12:27:44] For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [12:27:47] Some $wg var? [12:27:58] RoanKattouw: it's a permission like any other [12:27:59] RoanKattouw: I meant format that allow to return just expanded text for action=expandtemplates, without XML wrapper [12:28:18] VasilievVV no that's not possible [12:28:19] thx @all cu [12:28:28] You can use JSON wrappers [12:28:36] If you hate all the < > stuff [12:28:40] &format=json [12:29:28] RoanKattouw: I think we should introduce something like protected function allowsRaw() for all API modules [12:29:38] Maybe [12:29:57] That'd require some rewriting of ApiFormatBase best left to Yurik [12:30:02] File at Bugzilla [12:30:15] And assign to yuriastrakhan@gmail.com [12:32:13] RoanKattouw: and what about http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 ? [12:32:59] That's different [12:33:04] action=raw is attached to a Special apge [12:33:05] *page [12:33:11] And it's an extension API [12:33:11] I know [12:33:20] Maybe you will fix it? [12:33:37] Oh commit it? [12:33:45] Haven't got commit access here [12:33:48] RoanKattouw: test and commit [12:33:56] Can't test it here either [12:34:05] Maybe you can test it at your test setup? [12:34:09] (If you have one) [12:34:21] RoanKattouw: of course I tested it [12:34:31] Oh right it's your patch ... [12:34:33] Do [12:34:35] h [12:39:23] 03(mod) API for Extension:SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 (10vasilvv) [12:42:27] hey there. I need help regarding regex. is this correct? [^]] [12:42:44] Waldir yes [12:42:55] it doesnt work on awb :( [12:42:55] It means any character except ] [12:43:04] Try to do [^\]] [12:43:10] i.e. escape the ] as \] [12:43:21] that was my first idea actually [12:43:51] then i went to read a tutorial and i found out that the ] must be the first character inside the list [12:43:59] else it will close it [12:44:00] Yeah but escaping works too [12:44:09] i tried it [12:44:16] it doesnt work :( [12:44:36] as i said it was my first idea [12:45:19] so, what can I do? [12:51:03] is it mediawiki who send cached data or apache ? (or whatever else) [12:53:05] meithal can be Squid, can be MediaWiki [12:53:11] Squid = load balancer and cache [12:53:19] Waldir dunno [12:53:25] Find a regex engine that works? ;) [12:53:28] xD [12:53:31] Or try /[^]]/ [12:53:38] Begin and end your regex with slashes [12:53:42] why? [12:53:45] PHP for example needs this [12:53:49] hum [12:53:51] Many regex engines want you to [12:53:53] For dark reasons [12:54:07] i doubt it would work. but i managed to acheve what i needed [12:54:08] why is it so hard to get just fresh data ? X( [12:54:13] with a different regex [12:54:24] 03vrandezo * r26699 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (INSTALL maintenance/SMW_unifyProperties.php): unifyProperties verbose settings changed slightly [12:54:26] meithal dunno [12:54:36] Where do you wanna get fresh data from again? [12:54:40] Which wiki, which page? [12:56:05] Sorry, gotta go [12:56:10] Speak to you all later [12:56:12] bye [12:57:52] I asked this question before but I'll ask it again :P Because no answer :) [12:57:53] does anyone know how I can create an info box like this on wikipedia = (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke | Except I wouldn't be needing all that information just adding different fields, like games developerd, role. [12:58:01] but not for wikipedia for my own wiki :P [12:58:09] I know wikipedia uses all this template: stuff [13:01:59] RoanKattouw : request headers : http://pastebin.com/m7dcf6ad5 [13:02:36] Response headers : http://pastebin.com/m5e79f540 [13:04:06] the request is a GET btw [13:05:05] anyone know how I can do that info box thing? [13:11:53] madness : here is the code of the infobox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Philosopher [13:12:54] but coding infobox is thing you shouldn't do if you are inexperienced i think [13:13:08] I tried this form another page and then when I viewed that template on my wiki it come up asking for other Template: [13:13:24] then copy paste the other template [13:13:57] I seem to have to do that too many times and then I get stuck, but I'll try the one you provided a link to :P and report back with my findings. [13:15:00] is there a way to list files that link to an image directly, through code, instead of through a template? [13:26:54] Hello, again [13:27:05] how strange it won't let me login from my previous username :( [13:27:22] anyways I did that info box you suggested and I got the following results = http://www.drivermadness.net/main/wiki/index.php?title=Martin_Edmondson [13:27:28] it's not right, have any ideas? [13:27:59] madness: install the parserfunctions extension (and HTML tidy, too) [13:28:19] so that should fix my problem up? [13:29:25] at least part of it (the {{if:'s, for one thing), then we'll see if there's something else missing [13:29:49] ok, thanks I'll try that! and report back once I'm done... [13:31:42] umm which one should I use = http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Parser_function_extensions :S [13:33:10] that category is quite shit, actually [13:33:23] go download ParserFunctions from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ [13:33:54] thanks! :P [13:34:33] which ones should I install? [13:34:54] o_o [13:35:07] I see four different php files :S [13:35:26] get the four php files from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ , put them under extensions/ParserFunctions and add the appropriate require_once line to LocalSettings.php file [13:35:29] that's it, then :) [13:35:38] ok :P [13:37:54] anone knows how force no-cache on server side then ? [13:37:58] anyone* [13:38:33] google said to create some s but it seems quite brutal to me [13:51:12] anyone know where I can find HTMLTidy? [13:52:21] http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ chances are you already have it somewhere on your system [13:54:51] so it isn't an extension? [13:55:11] madness2: no. It's a program and PHP module [13:56:16] ok, then in that case my host proably already has it. [13:56:20] madness2: no, but you have to enable it in LocalSettings.php (at least, if you want the same behaviour of the WMF sites, where it's enabled) [14:02:34] do you know what i'll have to activate to make this enabled in LocalSettings.php [14:05:44] is there something I set to true for this tidyhtml in wikipedia. [14:06:22] $wgUseTidy = true; [14:06:32] thanks! [14:08:08] I cannot find $wgUseTidy :( [14:08:47] it will not be in LocalSettings.php if you haven't used it before just put it in near the end, before the final ?> [14:09:21] ok so I just insert "$wgUseTidy" near the end. Also strange thing is I have no ?> [14:09:39] a better description of all the things you can customize in LocalSettings is in the file include/defaultSettings.php - browse it freely, but don't change things there, use LocalSettings.php instead (this overrides anything in DefaultSettings) [14:09:41] opps I'd insert 10 01$wgUseTidy = true; at end [14:09:50] ok [14:09:58] thanks for the tip [14:11:28] I see the parserFunctions are working now: http://www.drivermadness.net/main/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Version [14:11:39] yeah :P [14:11:46] http://www.drivermadness.net/main/wiki/index.php?title=Martin_Edmondson [14:11:49] thanks for you help :P [14:12:54] np, enjoy! (if you keep importing infoboxes from Wikipedia you may also need some .css classes to get the same results) [14:13:30] hmm... where would I locate these .css classes and how would I install them? [14:16:14] 03mkroetzsch * r26700 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (INSTALL README): updated info for new release [14:21:24] madness2: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css [14:24:57] so I'd just install them by editing them into these pages http://www.drivermadness.net/main/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [14:25:18] http://www.drivermadness.net/main/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css [14:26:08] Yes (you will need to be a sysop to edit those pages). Though you will probably need only a tiny part of those customizations. [14:26:48] ok thanks! :P for that info. [14:33:04] when writing for example m:CVN in the searchbox in w:en and choose "GO", I think it should go to m first [14:33:45] 03(NEW) Creation of Mediawiki:Nospam with cascade protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11646 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (effeietsanders) [14:37:46] 03(WONTFIX) Creation of Mediawiki:Nospam with cascade protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11646 +comment (10robchur) [14:49:41] 03mkroetzsch * r26701 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (README RELEASE-NOTES): Release notes for 1.0RC1 added + credits for Dutch translation [14:51:49] 03(mod) Incorrect SVG rasterisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6417 (10broken.arrow) [14:51:51] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 (10broken.arrow) [14:51:59] 14(INVALID) $wgMetaNamespace doesn' t work with mediawiki installations in Persian(fa) language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11643 +comment (10Soroush83) [14:52:34] 03(mod) librsvg rendering buggy wrt color and fill attributes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5257 (10broken.arrow) [14:52:37] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 (10broken.arrow) [14:57:26] Hi, everybody [14:58:14] Hi Dr. Nick [14:59:37] 03mkroetzsch * r26702 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/skins/ (SMW_custom.css SMW_custom_rtl.css): Updated RTL css [15:00:00] Is it necessary to put _ instead of space in namespace names when it is defined in mediawiki files. It looks so. but I want to get absolutely sure [15:00:20] soroush83: yes, it is neccessary [15:01:08] Jack_Phoenix, thanks. Not knowing this. It involved me for more than 10 hours. I can't remember how much [15:02:52] 03mkroetzsch * r26703 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: version increment to RC1 [15:03:07] Jack_Phoenix, Are there any other rules for naming namespaces. They shouldn't be mediawiki eigther as I know [15:03:08] ? [15:03:49] well, I guess that's about it - MediaWiki obviously cannot be a custom namespace name :) [15:04:29] so there's not needed to have an article about rules of naming namespaces [15:04:43] I just try to update relavant articles now. [15:21:23] you shouldn't name a custom namespace the same as a standard namespace :) [15:22:41] NotACow, sure :) [15:23:29] 03mkroetzsch * r26704 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/QueryPages/SMW_SpecialUnusedProperties.php: Do not use tooltips in tooltips [15:40:02] i'm still stuck with this caching problem [15:40:26] :( [15:41:20] i'll come back later maybe [15:53:28] nick jamie [15:55:01] ignore me - i'm just testing... [16:36:55] 03(NEW) Russian translation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (alexander.sigachov) [16:55:03] I've got a somewhat newbie question for all you MediaWiki experts [16:55:37] is there a good plugin for print/conversion of pages to a print-ready format? [17:00:20] 03(NEW) Russian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11648 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (alexander.sigachov) [17:01:25] 03(mod) Russian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11648 +comment (10alexander.sigachov) [17:03:55] anyone home? [17:12:31] dsifry: hi [17:12:43] hi jlerner [17:12:45] 03(NEW) Make Special:Whatlinkshere an entry point - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11649 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (le.korrigan) [17:15:50] anybody tried to install DB2 yet on lunar? [17:17:38] Blue_Ice: wrong channel? [17:18:42] flyingparchment: yeah, wrong tab ^_^ [18:11:30] can someone commit this align feature http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Inputbox/Align on the live wikis ? [18:11:49] (or is there a reason to not do so ?) [18:12:50] and use a
instead of a for layout ? [18:15:34] and btw, does someone know how force no-cache on the server side via a XMLHttpRequest ? (still stuck with it) [18:21:55] I would like to authorize uploads of svg files. Do I have to add such sentence to my LocalSettings.php file : $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'svg', 'jpeg' ); [18:45:08] 03mkroetzsch * r26705 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/RELEASE-NOTES: minor polishing [18:50:19] Hello there, how do I create a custom user group and assign a page to that user group, so only them can edit the page? [18:50:45] 03(NEW) German translation of prefs-help-realname system message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11650 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (mediazilla) [18:52:08] EVSNSTRATEGIC : $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read'] = false; [18:52:29] $wgWhitelistRead = array( 'Main_Page', 'Special:Userlogin', 'MediaWiki:Chick.css' ); [18:52:34] You mean $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['read'] = false; [18:52:43] Oh no sorry [18:53:05] You'd have to do both $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read'] = false; and $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['read'] = true; [18:53:15] And also $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = false; [18:54:03] then after, you'd have to manually protect each page right? [18:54:12] No [18:54:38] $wgGroupPermissions['*]['read'] = false; means "anonymous users can't read any pages" [18:54:54] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = false; means "logged-in users can't read any pages" [18:55:12] $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['read'] = true; means "users in the group 'mygroup' *can* read pages [18:55:31] You'd have to manually place people in the 'mygroup' group through [[Special:Userrights]] [18:55:54] And in $wgWhitelistRead you can place pages everyone can read [18:55:58] Like the Main Page [18:56:05] $wgWhitelistRead = array( 'Main_Page', 'Special:Userlogin', 'MediaWiki:Chick.css' ); [18:56:27] if you use the chick skin by default [18:56:47] Awesome, thanks! [18:57:09] Will get to work and see if it works. *_* [19:00:32] $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['read'] = true; My original question is to be able to edit the page as long as you're in that group...will this setting do just that? [19:01:26] mygroup can read everything, the whitelist is for people who can read anything [19:02:19] $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['edit'] = true; --> everyone in the mygroup group can edit pages [19:02:42] If you wanna disable editing for users who aren't in mygroup, use $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [19:02:51] And of course also ['*']['edit'] = false; [19:02:52] RoanKattouw: made a comment on the bug [19:03:01] Link please? [19:03:17] *RoanKattouw is guilty as charged of laziness ;) [19:03:23] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11634 [19:03:26] hehe [19:03:39] wonder if my logic is correct or not [19:04:59] Yes it is [19:05:02] appr:edit:autoconfirmed|move:sysop would be a possible setup [19:05:04] 03(mod) allpages thingis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11634 (10roan.kattouw) [19:05:24] I was thinking about a parameter that you can set to OR (default) or AND [19:05:35] You probably get the point [19:05:35] hmm [19:05:38] yea [19:06:04] but as there are allready array parameters, why not also specify assoc array params? [19:06:09] Of course the combination of AND and a multivalue for apprtype isn't gonna work [19:06:21] AzaTht associative arrays in parameters? [19:06:28] That's on the edge of craziness ;) [19:06:37] That would mean rebuilding half of ApiBase [19:06:39] yea [19:06:49] not really [19:06:55] just the array parting thingi [19:06:58] parsing* [19:07:10] Yeah I know, but param parsing is pretty much the only thing ApiBase does [19:07:16] hehe [19:07:19] Aside from help text generation [19:08:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&approt=edit:autoconfirmed|move:sysop [19:09:03] hmm, I though invalid params would generate an error [19:09:09] No [19:09:24] Invalid values for existing parameters generate an error [19:09:34] But that suggestion could work [19:09:43] but non-specified params [19:09:54] We could always explode(':', $params['approt']) [19:09:55] approt isn't specified [19:10:07] No but try aplimit=hello and you do get an error [19:10:09] in the api [19:10:14] true [19:10:19] Anyway gotta go now [19:10:29] I'll speak to you later [19:10:32] ok [19:10:42] Werdna: get up [19:11:43] brion-away: really away? [19:40:02] I created a custom group in local using: $wgGroupPermissions['theculturalconnect']['addHtml'] = true; [19:40:05] $wgGroupPermissions['theculturalconnect']['edit'] = true; ...the group shows in the special:userrights but when i assigned a user to that group, wouldnt let me. [19:52:48] momom [20:18:48] can mediawiki work with sql server? [20:18:56] no [20:18:59] maybe [20:22:18] could you explain domas? [20:23:50] no official support, but there's enough of abstraction work inside to make it quite fast job :) [20:24:02] someone wrote some sql server support at one point [20:24:06] yeah [20:24:19] onlineUser, mediawiki just supports mysql and postgresql [20:24:30] it doesn't work with other dbs [20:24:36] and oracle!! [20:24:42] :-) [20:27:52] thanks, all [20:38:16] is there an image parameter that can specify a PNG with a transparent background to have a white bk instead? [20:40:07] Moniker42: no, but you can simply put it into a div with a white background [20:40:26] hello all [20:40:38] oh - can i set the background color of image thumnails then? [20:41:05] as i said: no, but you can srt the background of a div that contains them [20:42:36] i'm writing a parser that reads the irc recent changes channel, where in the source these irc lines are composed? [20:43:12] i found the 'edit's, but not any of the other events, such as move, delete etc [20:44:47] is there a way to get all changes (like in recent changes) in a certain timeframe? [20:45:48] like getting all changes made on january 1st of this year? [21:00:05] jamasi: you can get changes from a given timeframe using api.php, i think. however, recent changes are just that - *recent* changes. the list is only maintained for 7 days per default. for wikimedia projects, it's 30 days. [21:02:28] I think it would be a nice addition to have a "to=" param in recent changes then, so that you could specify a timeframe or is this impossible due to purging of rc data after 30 days? [21:03:42] it's purged. that's what i just said, no? [21:04:39] not very explicit, but one could have read it that way therefore I asked. [21:05:19] I will try to be more explicite in the future. [21:23:21] 03(mod) Create Wikimania 2008 website - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11614 (10wm-thunderhead) [21:25:02] 03(FIXED) Create Wikimania 2008 website - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11614 (10cbrown1023) [21:25:43] is there a way to create new groups (like Sysop, bureaucrats) to restrict editing access based on namespace? Or alter those rights per user? [21:25:58] there are no per user rights [21:26:05] al permissions are managed per group [21:26:10] I need editing rights per namespace, like wiki/Region_A to user or group A wiki/Region_B etc [21:26:13] groups are created by assigning privileges to them. [21:26:35] per namespace permissions are not supported per default. but you can use the Lockdown extension for that [21:26:41] Duesentrieb: thanks for the answer, but I only saw global rights for editing etc [21:26:48] aha, I'll google it, thanks for the pointer [21:26:53] !access [21:26:53] For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [21:27:26] !rights [21:27:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [21:27:50] already saw that one, but that's only allow / deny [21:28:18] yes, but it exlpains how groups & permissions work [21:28:20] that sentence wasn't finnished yet, but I'll read a bit more to make sure :-) [21:28:34] anyway, you want this: [21:28:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [21:29:22] Duesentrieb, you're writting so useful extensions [21:29:32] Lockdown is really TOTAL lockdown, not only editing lockdown, anyone is allowed to view everything [21:29:37] everyday there are people use it :0 [21:29:40] :) [21:29:59] soroush81: well, i wrote about four or five, for my own website, because i was to lazy to learn a different system to use for my personal stuff :) [21:30:04] but i'm happy if you like it [21:30:30] Duesentrieb: never mind, I was wrong :-) [21:30:32] Blue_Ice: Lockdown allows you to controll all permissions per group per namespace. [21:30:42] Duesentrieb, I think it has many fans. [21:30:46] Like i said before: I'll read a bit further before drawing conclusions to vastly :-) [21:30:54] do that [21:30:57] afk [21:30:59] Duesentrieb, What is your site? [21:31:00] thanks [21:31:07] brightbyte.de [21:31:30] not a terrible lot there yet. just a few rants, basically [21:47:04] Duesentrieb, does this include read-permissions? and removing "hidden" content from recent changes and search? [21:55:34] jamasi: it includes the read permission - with all that does and does not imply. [21:59:31] taking away read-permission is not air-tight security. but i plugged the most obvious holes [21:59:31] ok, thanks [21:59:31] search and recentchanges will still list pages if you can't read them, but they will not show excerpts/diffs [21:59:31] rc does show edit comments though [22:06:31] 02,00hello [22:06:34] 02,00i have a question [22:07:04] 02,00http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Machocarioca [22:07:14] 02,00the signature of this user doesn't work correctly [22:07:22] 02,00appears like this: [22:07:32] 02,00Machocarioca 22h01min de 13 de Outubro de 2007 (UTC)Machocarioca [22:07:40] 02,00you know what is wrong? [22:07:46] SladePT: please turn off the colors. [22:07:51] 02,00ok [22:08:07] guys how do i move the 'move' button in the top nav to the right hand side of the page? I can't find the right CSS [22:08:18] ok [22:08:23] anynoe can answer me? [22:08:27] *anyone [22:08:30] SladePT: well, we can't see how that user defined the signature. [22:08:57] i'd explained to him how the options have to be set [22:09:07] and he confirms all [22:09:12] this can be a bug? [22:09:25] joobie: that would be quite tricky. might be possible, using an absolute position, but ugh... even more ugh if you want it to work in MSIE too [22:10:03] heh [22:10:11] SladePT: unliekly [22:10:13] Duesentrieb, what about if i want to put a space after the edit? [22:10:19] like put a few spaces.. and then continue on? [22:10:30] that would be simple [22:10:32] 1[Due02,00sentr12,00ieb1,00]01: did you mean unlikely? [22:10:39] yes [22:10:41] any idea how? I tried padding-right on ca-edit, but that didnt work [22:10:42] my typing sucks [22:10:55] i wanted to space after the edit [22:10:58] joobie: it should work. [22:11:31] ahh [22:11:33] it's margin-right [22:11:34] joobie: did you remember to do a hard reload? f5 will not do it, at least not in ff [22:11:34] got it [22:11:35] thanks [22:11:38] well [22:11:41] i have to keep using !important [22:11:43] else it doesnt work [22:11:53] depends where you set it i guess [22:12:10] MediaWiki:Monobook.css [22:12:12] i set it there [22:17:44] thanks Duesentrieb [22:19:12] hm, didn't think you'd need !important there [22:19:19] but whatever works for you... [22:26:29] Does MediaWiki 1.6.10 support the #if processor in templates? I'm having quite a bit of trouble getting it to work, though I acknowledge that I could just be screwing it up somehow. [22:26:52] ...there are a whole lot of curly braces in the syntax. Hard to keep track of. [22:27:45] no version supports {{#if}} out of the box. it's an extension [22:27:55] there's a version for 1.6, but it involves some patching iirc [22:28:20] !parserfunctions [22:28:20] For help using parser functions, please see . [22:28:22] spoom [22:28:33] NotACow: s/m/n [22:28:46] Duesentrieb: what> [22:28:54] spoon. [22:28:58] oh [22:29:00] heh [22:29:08] there is no spoon. [22:29:10] Hmm, thanks Duesentrieb. [22:29:44] *NotACow wonder if 's/m/n' was the equivalent of 'a/s/l' in some other language :) [22:29:48] the spoon is dead, long live the spoom! [23:01:42] 03(NEW) Anonymous users should have a similar interface to logged in users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11651 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (axel9891) [23:55:30] Would the line "$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createpage'] = false;" prevent users from uploading images? [23:55:51] sorry... replace that * with users/user/whatever the users group is [23:56:16] I think there is an upload permission, check out [[Manual:User rights] [23:56:27] Sorry, [[Manual:User rights]] on mediawiki.org