[00:00:00] <jeffz>	where can I find the extension which wikipedia uses for the math template used for making images of mathematical notations?
[00:08:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Gallery sometimes ignores image when using filename copied from URL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11659  (10N/A)
[00:09:25] <Plasma86>	How do I enable SVG file format uploading?
[00:18:48] <MZMcBride>	Plasma86: search DefaultSettings.php for "SVG"
[00:19:01] <MZMcBride>	jeffz: there's isn't a specific extension to create math formulas
[00:19:30] <frieze>	okay nothing is jumping out at me in terms of further extensions. anyone have a guess why mediawiki would be converting html to plain there?
[00:19:37] <MZMcBride>	the wikimedia projects use a complicated system involved rendering the images and converting them; it's much easier to use mimetex
[00:19:52] <MZMcBride>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mimetex_alternative
[00:22:26] <jeffz>	MZMcBride: thanks
[00:23:31] <setuid>	How do I disable the navigation sidebar? 
[00:23:53] <XDuxaX>	when editing .ccs files.. what language is that? Http?
[00:24:15] <setuid>	.ccs file? 
[00:24:19] <XDuxaX>	yes
[00:24:36] <XDuxaX>	like Mediawiki:common.ccs
[00:24:45] <jeffz>	hm, on my mediawiki I think I added a wikitable class from one of the web pages, but I can't remember where I did it :/ can anyone guess how I might have done it?
[00:24:51] <zazadude>	hello all
[00:25:12] <jeffz>	XDuxaX: cascading style sheets
[00:25:28] <setuid>	XDuxaX, I see no such file... I do see .css of course, and that's just a stylesheet
[00:28:47] <jeffz>	nvm, wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css =p - need more coffee.
[00:30:04] <frieze>	okay so when I add a ! to the template source it creates the table correctly. what does that operator do?
[00:30:19] <zazadude>	how does the combination 'Special:Log' is built at runtime? i couldn't figure out where the 'Log' part is comming, i.e. MessagesXX.php doesn't seem to have what appears in the RC log
[00:31:24] <zazadude>	is it simply the NS_SPECIAL:$Log ?
[00:32:28] <XDuxaX>	anyone know a command line for common.ccs to make it so that when I hover over external links it underlines them?
[00:32:35] <XDuxaX>	or colors them a different color?
[00:32:48] <XDuxaX>	i got this -> #bodyContent a.external {
[00:32:49] <XDuxaX>		color: #AAAAAA;
[00:32:49] <XDuxaX>	}
[00:32:55] <XDuxaX>	but not sure what to add to there
[00:36:53] <Simetrical>	XDuxaX, try text-decoration: underline; inside the braces.
[00:36:59] <frieze>	ok so this is probably a rtfm question but I am drowning in open documentation windows at this point. What does the ! do in wiki source?
[00:37:02] <Simetrical>	Well, except you want it on hover.
[00:37:15] <Simetrical>	XDuxaX, try #bodyContent a.external:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
[00:37:30] <Simetrical>	frieze, as part of table markup, it creates a header cell.
[00:38:04] <frieze>	AH, thanks. looking in the wrong direction there.
[00:39:25] <Plasma86>	I don't know exactly what is going on but when ImageMagic converts a SVG image it sizes it right and actually shows something (an improvement) but it only shows the black and white parts of the image
[00:39:58] <Plasma86>	anything that was of something other than black and white it doesn't include it
[00:40:06] <setuid>	Simetrical! 
[00:40:38] <setuid>	Simetrical, Is there an easy way to disable page elements, like the sidebar, disable all images, etc.? 
[00:40:50] <setuid>	I'm poking through the skins, but I don't see anything obvious
[00:41:08] <Simetrical>	setuid, I think that's called "edit MonoBook.php and delete the bits you don't want".
[00:41:16] <setuid>	hahaah
[00:41:29] <setuid>	I tried that, it has no effect. Are the skins cached/compiled somewhere? 
[00:41:29] <Simetrical>	setuid, at least for Monobook-based skins.  Have you looked at that file?  It just echoes a ton of hardcoded HTML, basically.
[00:41:46] <Simetrical>	setuid, editing MonoBook.php should have an immediate effect for users of MonoBook and all derived skins.
[00:41:55] <setuid>	I added an entire Lorem Ipsum paragraph right in the middle of the body, and it never shows up 
[00:41:58] <fupefl>	Or edit the CSS, if you don't mind it appearing for users that haven't upgraded their browser since ARPANET.
[00:42:09] <setuid>	fupefl, Me? 
[00:42:12] <fupefl>	Yep.
[00:42:20] <setuid>	fupefl, My user agents do not support css
[00:42:25] <setuid>	Nor do they support tables, javascript, etc. 
[00:42:41] <setuid>	fupefl, http://projects.plkr.org/encycloplucker/
[00:43:50] <fupefl>	Cool; like a horse-drawn carriage with painted flames. :p
[00:44:12] <setuid>	Not quite
[00:44:36] <fupefl>	I'm kidding. I'm sure there are plenty of benefits to simplified web browsers.
[00:44:59] <setuid>	Its not a web browser
[00:45:08] <setuid>	That's why it doesn't support those things
[00:45:35] <Simetrical>	setuid, if editing MonoBook.php had no effect, and you're absolutely sure you're using the Monobook skin, you're editing the wrong file somehow.
[00:46:09] <Simetrical>	fupefl, plenty of cell phones don't support CSS.  Not to mention screen-readers (although I think a lot of those do).
[00:46:14] <setuid>	Simetrical, I just moved Monobook.php to foo, reloaded the page and got "half" of a skin, so it is reading parts of it, just not all of it I suspect. 
[00:46:24] <fupefl>	Simetrical: Yes, see my "kidding" note above.
[00:46:38] <Simetrical>	setuid, you're using the Monobook skin?
[00:46:53] <Simetrical>	setuid, if you're using Monobook and MonoBook.php doesn't exist, you'll get a fatal PHP error.
[00:47:05] <setuid>	Yes
[00:47:08] <Simetrical>	Unless there's some sneaky fallback I'm unaware of, which I very much doubt.
[00:47:13] <Simetrical>	setuid, do you have a link to your wiki?
[00:47:16] <setuid>	There must be some sneaky fallback
[00:47:26] <setuid>	Let me poke a hole through the fw and expose it, just a sec. 
[00:47:28] *Simetrical 	doubts it very much
[00:48:42] <jlerner_>	Simetrical: you didn't get a private message from me, did you? (having trouble logging in with my registered nick)
[00:48:59] <jlerner_>	could i trouble you for a user rename on mediawiki.org?
[00:49:19] <setuid>	Simetrical, this should work: http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/it/ep/index.php/Pagina_principale
[00:49:40] <Simetrical>	jlerner_, I've forgotten my password here too, so I suspect you can't PM me regardless.  :)
[00:49:44] <Simetrical>	jlerner_, from what to what?
[00:50:02] <jlerner_>	from jclerner to jlerner (same request already went through on en and meta)
[00:50:34] <jlerner_>	i wish  the server would complain if you try to private message, but the message doesn't get through
[00:51:09] <Simetrical>	jlerner_, post on my talk page with your current account so I can confirm that you're really the same person as on the wiki.
[00:51:15] <jlerner_>	k
[00:54:09] <setuid>	Hrm, this is so weird...
[00:54:23] <setuid>	Its like the templates are compiled, or in some other location, but I'm editing the ONLY Monobook.php in the tree
[00:55:02] <jlerner_>	Simetrical: done
[00:55:11] <evanpro>	Simetrical: please change my name on en: wiki too
[00:55:26] <evanpro>	I'd like User:JimboWales -> User:JimboWales on Wheels!
[00:55:39] <evanpro>	B-)
[00:57:27] <setuid>	Simetrical, So any ideas? 
[00:57:43] <Simetrical>	jlerner_, done.
[00:58:05] <jlerner_>	thanks much
[00:58:58] <Simetrical>	setuid, can I see what happens when you rename MonoBook.php?
[00:59:03] <setuid>	Sure, just a sec. 
[00:59:21] <setuid>	mv MonoBook.php Foo.php
[00:59:24] <setuid>	Now try 
[00:59:46] <Simetrical>	Interesting, seems there is a fallback of some kind.
[01:00:06] <setuid>	Sure, so we know its using _that_ Monobook.php file though
[01:00:08] <Simetrical>	I have no idea, I'd have to look through the PHP.
[01:00:15] <comphappy>	i am atempting to get the mailer working, but when i send an email login, i get this error  Login error:
[01:00:16] <setuid>	I just need to cut it down, remove all of the extraneous bs
[01:00:17] <comphappy>	Error sending mail: Object
[01:00:57] <comphappy>	is there a log i can look at for more info
[01:01:48] <setuid>	I'll tear through it 
[01:03:30] <davidmccabe>	Hey, somebody want to do something tedious for the cause?
[01:04:12] <comphappy>	does this look correct http://rafb.net/p/wnRAGJ72.html
[01:04:15] <Simetrical>	davidmccabe, no.
[01:04:31] <comphappy>	i am still getting that error and no emails are sent
[01:08:37] <fupefl>	Does anyone know why the API requires cookies to recognize a query as coming from a bot, if the session token is sent as described in <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login_and_account_creation>?
[01:14:34] <setuid>	Simetrical, Ok, its closer now... 
[01:14:42] <setuid>	http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/it/ep/index.php
[01:15:01] <setuid>	Still can't seem to stop the right-side sidebar from showing up, nor block all images outright
[01:16:34] <setuid>	I still think there's missing interlinks or something in here... I'm missing common things like Quick_Index and such. 
[01:18:37] <setuid>	I guess I'll take a whack at making my own skin. 
[01:20:33] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) [[Category:<Category Item Here>]] Links in User Pages do not add users to Category Page specified. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11675  (10akoimeexx)
[01:23:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inability to mix +bot and +sysop flags for bureaucrats ( WMF wikis) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11676 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (lilewyn)
[01:27:02] <setuid>	Simetrical, Is there a list I should be asking these template/skin/repurposing-for-mobile-devices questions on? 
[01:27:18] <setuid>	I'm already on wikitech-l (as you know), but none of the others
[01:28:14] <Simetrical>	setuid, mediawiki-l is the support list.
[01:28:30] <Simetrical>	setuid, I'm not actually a member of it, so I have no idea what it's used for in practice.
[01:30:24] <setuid>	Ok
[01:30:27] <setuid>	I'll join that one too
[01:31:10] <setuid>	I guess I'm treading in both camps, having optimized mwdumper and imports/exports, tweaked the mw codebase to work from a single tree with 54 separate wikis, exporting the whole thing to mobile devices, yadda yadda. 
[01:31:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inability to mix +bot and +sysop flags for bureaucrats ( WMF wikis) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11676  +comment (10EN.WP.ST47)
[01:36:53] <setuid>	Yeah, this is definitely not working, editing the templates doesn't seem to actually effect anything. Copied 'chick' to my own custom template, renamed all of the references from 'chick'  to 'mobile', and started gutting out pieces, and it completely ignores everything. 
[01:39:54] <setuid>	Wow, even creepier... I have LocalSettings.php, which is a symlink to ../../../myLocalSettings.php, and diffing them shows no differences, but editing them with any editor, shows they're VERY different. 
[01:40:25] <setuid>	md5sum on both, shows they're identical 
[01:41:29] <Simetrical>	. . .
[01:41:35] <Simetrical>	I can see why that might confuse MediaWiki.
[01:42:02] <setuid>	Apparently mw doesn't like symlinks
[01:42:15] <Simetrical>	Surely the PHP file access functions follow symlinks.
[01:42:28] <Simetrical>	Like include and so on.
[01:42:37] <Simetrical>	Unless you have something funky like safe mode enabled, I dunno.
[01:43:15] <setuid>	Well, its obviously following them, otherwise NONE of these wikis would work 
[01:43:41] <setuid>	Here's what my enwiki tree looks like: http://rafb.net/p/Ftrtou32.html
[01:55:09] <setuid>	It must be inheriting from other templates, this is madness. 
[02:04:42] <zazadude>	re
[02:05:25] <zazadude>	i couldn't find 'renameuserlogentry' in MessagesXX.php, but i see it on the wikipedia allmessages page... any idea?
[02:10:03] <setuid>	$wgDefaultUserOptions['editsection'] = 0;  # doesn't work 
[02:10:06] <setuid>	grrr
[02:11:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Undelete fails silently during database lock - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11343  +comment (10Prodego)
[02:13:14] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Inability to mix +bot and +sysop flags for bureaucrats ( WMF wikis) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11676  +comment (10lilewyn)
[02:21:02] <jlerner_>	setuid: why do think that?
[02:23:27] <setuid>	jlerner_, Why do I think what? 
[02:23:41] <jlerner_>	about $wgDefaultUserOptions['editsection
[02:23:58] <zazadude>	where is 'renameuserlogentry' ...
[02:24:25] <setuid>	jlerner_, It doesn't remove edit links as it claims to do 
[02:24:43] <jlerner_>	changing that setting will only affect the defaults for new accoiunts
[02:24:46] <jlerner_>	accounts
[02:24:55] <jlerner_>	it won't change existing accoiunts
[02:25:06] <setuid>	I need it to change in the UI. I have zero accounts, and never will. 
[02:25:23] <jlerner_>	all users are anonymous?
[02:25:38] <setuid>	There are no users, so yes, there will only be 1 user, an anonymous user
[02:25:45] <jlerner_>	hm, ok
[02:26:04] <setuid>	I need to remove the [edit] prefixes on section headings
[02:26:10] <jlerner_>	you purged the cache on the page your testing on?
[02:26:16] <jlerner_>	s/your/you're/
[02:26:24] <setuid>	Sure
[02:26:26] <setuid>	Here's an example
[02:26:27] <setuid>	http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/index.php/Slavic_peoples
[02:26:32] <setuid>	Click any page from there, they all have edit links
[02:30:54] <jlerner_>	hm - maybe it's a css thing? 
[02:30:55] <jlerner_>	                if( !$wgUser->getOption( 'editsection' ) ) {
[02:30:55] <jlerner_>	                        $s .= ".editsection { display: none; }\n";
[02:30:55] <jlerner_>	                } 
[02:31:14] <jlerner_>	from Skin.php
[02:31:35] <jlerner_>	setuid: above
[02:32:31] <setuid>	I can't do that
[02:32:35] <setuid>	My clients don't support css
[02:32:41] <setuid>	The target devices don't support css
[02:32:47] <setuid>	The spider that parses this will ignore that
[02:36:42] <NotACow>	splat
[02:37:18] <setuid>	moo
[02:45:20] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Close Upload Form to Normal Users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11669  +comment (10ice201)
[02:45:37] <setuid>	jlerner_, Seems to be nothing I can to do rip that out
[02:45:47] <setuid>	I'll have to post-process with some php to rip it out before its displayed
[02:50:05] <setuid>	jlerner_, Found it... includes/Linker.php
[02:50:22] <setuid>	Had to comment out return "<span class=\"editsection\">$result</span>"; in doEditSectionLink()
[03:00:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Patch makes EditPage more general - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10033  (10davemccabe)
[03:10:16] <werdan7>	Is it intentional that action=render and action=print don't work in the special: namespace?
[03:26:32] <fupefl>	werdan7: It's a technical limitation, if I recall correctly. 
[03:26:47] <fupefl>	Something about special pages circumventing the parser or some such.
[03:37:34] <AaronSchulz>	NotACow: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&curid=13173&diff=100188358&oldid=100185875
[03:37:40] <AaronSchulz>	geez, you are soo right ;)
[04:09:52] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: hm?
[04:10:00] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: haha
[04:10:04] <AaronSchulz>	we are NOT wikipedia!
[04:10:05] <AaronSchulz>	urggg
[04:10:09] <AaronSchulz>	;)
[04:13:05] <NotACow>	AaronSchulz: to be fair, i'm sure i was already aware of that essay :)
[04:29:56] <Plasma86>	What does wikipedia use to handle its SVG files?
[04:30:13] <setuid>	imagemagick
[04:30:17] <setuid>	iirc
[04:30:25] <Plasma86>	does it use ImageMagick for svg as well or a separate one?
[04:35:28] <Plasma86>	Just tested it again, ImageMagick works great for everything but SVG format.  When it renders an SVG file it only gets the black parts of the image, everything in color is ignored.  Are there any special settings that I am missing to make SVG work correctly?
[04:55:07] <MZMcBride>	Plasma86: it's not just imagemagick on wikipedia
[04:56:08] <MZMcBride>	all SVGs are converted into PNGs to ensure compatibility and readability
[04:56:12] <MZMcBride>	more info: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SVG_image_support
[04:56:22] <Plasma86>	Thanks
[04:56:27] <MZMcBride>	yep
[04:57:21] <MZMcBride>	!svg
[04:57:49] <MZMcBride>	!svg is For more information regarding SVGs in MediaWiki, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SVG_image_support>.
[04:57:49] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: svg
[05:08:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Local time for Thai Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11677 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (manop)
[05:08:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local time for Thai Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11074  (10manop)
[05:39:37] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Samogitian wikipedia namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11557  +comment (10zordsdavini)
[05:41:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Close Upload Form to Normal Users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11669  +comment (10jeluf)
[05:45:32] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Samogitian wikipedia namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11557  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[05:55:18] <gushi>	Hey all...silly question...how closely does Mediawiki match the wikitext spec at http://podius.wox.org/documentation/wikitext-spec.html
[05:55:32] <gushi>	Does it support every element defined there?
[06:03:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Samogitian wikipedia namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11557  (10zordsdavini)
[06:04:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) change website direction from LTR to RTL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11655  (10mahanghani)
[06:31:51] <joobie>	guys is there a module for mediawiki that you can use to make forms?
[06:55:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SMW_DV_GeoCoords.php doesn' t allow character entity references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11678 minor; low; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info)
[06:57:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SMW_DV_GeoCoords.php doesn't allow character entity references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11678  (10info)
[06:59:06] <SF7>	 is there somewhere I can get a free mediawiki? I want to use it primarily for storing/ordering my data
[06:59:19] <SF7>	so that I can switch to any other computer and it is still there
[07:03:52] <kgoetz>	can mediawiki users be authenticated against a .htaccess file?
[07:18:04] <Cryx>	Hey, anyone knows why there is no toolbar on editing page? :(
[07:18:15] <puzzlet>	because you disabled it?
[07:18:34] <Cryx>	Cant find where to enable it on settings
[07:19:08] <Cryx>	theres no such option
[07:21:34] <Cryx>	or actually there is but eventough i enable it, it doesnt show up properly
[07:21:39] <Cryx>	i have java and on my computer
[07:24:38] <Cryx>	is there any option that must be enabled to get toolbar work other than "show toolbar"
[07:28:40] <tale_>	Cryx: Did you remember to empty browser cache? Needed to make changes effective.
[07:30:09] <Cryx>	yes ofcourse
[07:36:55] <tale_>	Cryx: Does the user you are logged in as have permission to edit the page?
[07:38:44] <Cryx>	every user have rights :P
[07:44:51] <_wooz>	lo
[08:12:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Undelete fails silently during database lock - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11343  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:31:28] <SlimG>	Is there any environmental variables available to the mediawiki editors?
[08:33:24] <SlimG>	constants, even..
[08:35:22] <marchelly>	re
[08:40:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing a username changes the name, leaving contribution record behind. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11661  (10N/A)
[08:42:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Undelete succeeds during database lock - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11343  normal->high; summary; +comment (10cannon.danielc)
[08:50:02] <RoanKattouw>	SlimG yes
[08:50:08] <RoanKattouw>	There is {{CURRENTTIME}} for instance
[08:50:13] <RoanKattouw>	Lemme get a link for all of them
[08:51:19] <SlimG>	RoanKattouw: I just found the link, thanks for the reference
[09:23:51] *amidaniel 	growls at svn
[09:24:31] <puzzlet>	poor svn
[09:24:44] <CIA-6>	03amidaniel * r26768 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUndelete.php): (bug 11343) If the database is read-only, ensure that undelete fails.
[09:24:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Undelete succeeds during database lock - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11343  +comment (10cannon.danielc)
[09:25:54] <amidaniel>	Not poor svn. svn's the evildoer here. I'm the victim
[09:26:00] *amidaniel 	stabs something
[09:26:08] <danopia|school>	whats wrong wiht SVN?
[09:26:12] *amidaniel 	decides it a better use of his time to just go to bed :)
[09:26:14] <brianmc>	Anyone interested in a job... http://www.jobserve.com/W6F7FFA3C19EEDDE4.job needs .NET as well as mediawiki
[09:26:33] <danopia|school>	?
[09:26:43] <amidaniel>	danopia|school: bleh. It's a piece of software. And all software has annoyances :)
[09:26:52] <danopia|school>	.net i pwn at, but mediawiki isn't my best
[09:27:06] *amidaniel 	departs
[09:29:16] <danopia|school>	"our Media WIKIMedia WIKI"
[09:29:38] <brianmc>	Yes, recruitment agencies have not wrapped their head round wiki yet
[09:30:09] <danopia|school>	WIKI x2 + Media x2 lol
[09:30:31] <danopia|school>	hmmm, what's sahrepoint
[09:31:12] <brianmc>	sharepoint is a .net based system which I only use for entering timesheets
[09:31:26] <danopia|school>	is that your company ^^
[09:31:42] <brianmc>	It has calendaring and some other stuff, Google it - they probably offer a single user demo - and no, not my company
[09:31:56] <danopia|school>	hmmm
[09:32:06] <flyingparchment>	sharepoint is from Microsoft
[09:32:22] <danopia|school>	besides taht fact that i'm too young for a job and like in the US, that soudns like a good job ofr me xD
[09:33:19] <brianmc>	Yes, well... Keep looking up wiki jobs, you can see what things they're looking to make it work with
[09:33:49] <danopia|school>	i'm looking up phpBB jobs, that's also what i pwn at xD, i doni't even have a wiki ATM
[09:34:23] <brianmc>	Same company has another vacancy for a technical author. I applied. :D
[09:35:04] <danopia|school>	where can i get work at home jobs? lol
[09:35:24] <brianmc>	This one - the TA - is 2 weeks onsite then the rest at home.
[09:49:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Geographic coordinate requires degree symbol, other compact format issues - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11679 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (info)
[09:51:43] <eloberiux>	Is there a php class that lets me convert wikitext to xhtml? I want to use mediawiki syntax in my cms but can't find the appropriate classes.
[09:57:24] <Nikerabbit>	ugh
[10:06:21] <danopia|school>	@eloberiux: probably, if you look
[10:06:33] <Werdna>	eloberiux: one exists.
[10:06:45] <Werdna>	lemme track down the wikitech-l thread
[10:06:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) some Functions don't Work with PostgreSQL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11331  (10N/A)
[10:07:05] <Werdna>	http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/wiki
[10:13:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Import should have a hook - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11537  (10rv1971)
[10:17:36] <eloberiux>	thanks, but mwpress is python. Otherwise this sounds like what I'm looking for. Any ideas for php?
[10:17:59] <eloberiux>	not mwpress, mwlib. Sorry for the confusion
[10:40:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (triyork)
[10:41:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[10:56:15] <joobie>	guys is it possible to embed <script> tags within mediawiki?
[10:56:32] <joobie>	i want to perform some Javascript on one page.. but mediawiki just prints out <script> rather than executing it
[10:57:12] <eloberiux>	I guess it's not intended to run arbitrary scripts
[10:57:53] <Duesentrieb>	joobie: that would be very very dangerous. google for XSS
[10:58:14] <joobie>	this is a private WIKI
[10:58:29] <Duesentrieb>	joobie: then you can allow any HTML - which would include <script>
[10:58:30] <joobie>	i'm aware of the security implications..
[10:59:12] <Duesentrieb>	set $wgRawHtml = true; the use <html><script>....</script></html>
[10:59:53] <joobie>	hmm
[10:59:57] <joobie>	what if we wanted to edit one page
[11:00:04] <joobie>	on the back end.. and add a <script> tag in it?
[11:00:16] <joobie>	so that users cant edit it.. but from the backend we can add to a particular page?
[11:00:47] <Duesentrieb>	you can use the HTMLets extension for that
[11:01:06] <Duesentrieb>	there are some other extensions (AddScript or some such) that allow similar things
[11:01:30] <Duesentrieb>	HTMLets is simple, safe, and powerfull. but not very flexible. it's for static HTML snippets.
[11:01:36] <Duesentrieb>	no parameters, no scripting, etc
[11:02:00] <Nikerabbit>	ugah
[11:02:44] <Duesentrieb>	Nikerabbit: ungh
[11:02:52] <Nikerabbit>	orwug
[11:04:12] <SF7>	 is there somewhere I can get a free mediawiki? I want to use it primarily for storing/ordering my data
[11:04:14] <SF7>	so that I can switch to any other computer and it is still there
[11:04:52] <Duesentrieb>	there are "scrap book" wiki farms. not sure if there's a free one for personal use that also uses mediawiki
[11:04:54] <Duesentrieb>	ask google
[11:07:24] <eloberiux>	why not use google notes?
[11:07:36] <eloberiux>	apart that its google owned
[11:07:45] <eloberiux>	it should serve yyour needs
[11:07:48] <Duesentrieb>	!html is For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[11:07:48] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: html
[11:08:37] <Duesentrieb>	@search cms
[11:08:37] <mwbot>	Results: [cms]
[11:08:47] <Duesentrieb>	!cms
[11:08:47] <mwbot>	You are advised to install an appropriate content management package for per-page read restrictions. We will not be held responsible should a password or bank details be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job due to borked hacks. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions> if you really want too.
[11:08:59] <Duesentrieb>	kk
[11:27:01] <NotACow>	hah
[11:34:13] <joobie>	Duesentrieb, what if i wanted to insert <script> for JS in on one page via the backend?
[11:34:29] <Werdna>	you could do that
[11:34:37] <Werdna>	but you'd be stupid to.
[11:34:46] <Werdna>	just add to MediaWiki:Common.js
[11:35:11] <joobie>	hmm
[11:35:15] <joobie>	but that would be the smarter option.
[11:35:43] <Werdna>	if (wgPageName == 'Page Name' && wgNamespaceNumber == 'somenum') {my code}
[11:36:26] <joobie>	thanks Werdna 
[11:37:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Infinite redirect on DefinedMeaning:Celtic_Continental_( 566612) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11681 minor; low; MediaWiki extensions: WiktionaryZ; (laszlo.vandenhoek)
[11:38:22] <joobie>	Werdna, what does the wgNamespaceNumber stand for? I tried alerting it on each page and it comes up as 0 ?
[11:38:40] <flyingparchment>	joobie: try a page in another namespace, like Project:Foo
[11:39:02] <flyingparchment>	it's the namespace id of the page's namespace
[11:40:00] <joobie>	i dont know what a page's namespace is
[11:40:01] <joobie>	sorry
[11:41:50] <Werdna>	the bit before it
[11:41:54] <Werdna>	Namespace:Title
[11:41:58] <Werdna>	for instalce, Talk:Some Page
[11:42:04] <Werdna>	Project: Another page
[11:42:09] <Werdna>	User:My userpage
[11:42:11] <Werdna>	etf
[11:42:14] <Werdna>	etc*
[11:42:34] <Nikerabbit>	ugah
[11:42:53] <joobie>	ahh
[11:43:04] <joobie>	and what relevance is the namespace? i mean what does it refer to
[11:43:46] <joobie>	or is it a purely logical page classification mediawiki uses
[11:45:28] <Werdna>	well, the type of page
[11:46:33] <joobie>	ahh k.. so it has no reference to like a table on the DB or nething like that.....?
[11:54:12] <SpH|Nx>	Hi
[11:54:25] <odb|fidel_>	hello
[11:54:34] <odb|fidel_>	seems like i have a strange problem regarding upload
[11:54:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539  (10seventowers)
[11:54:57] <odb|fidel_>	using mediawiki 1.11 ...localsettings.php contains an extension array which files should be allowed to upload
[11:55:14] <odb|fidel_>	"hex" is part of that array
[11:55:20] <odb|fidel_>	but if i try uploading a .hey file
[11:55:54] <SpH|Nx>	I am using Mediawiki for the first time and i cannot set up new pages with http://www..../wiki/mypage. It only works with /index.php5?title=mypage. What am i doing wrong? 
[11:56:40] <Platonides>	SpH|Nx, search for short urls
[11:56:47] <SpH|Nx>	thx
[11:56:59] <Platonides>	np
[11:57:07] <odb|fidel_>	problem is: if i upload a .hex file wiki tells me: corrupted file or not allowed extension
[11:57:24] <odb|fidel_>	could it be that this extension array has changed in 1.11 ?
[11:58:02] <Platonides>	i don't think so
[11:58:13] <Platonides>	but wiki may expect it to have some mime..
[11:58:30] <odb|fidel_>	mh
[11:59:14] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: so the extension array itself is still like that
[11:59:37] <odb|fidel_>	$wgFileExtensions = array ('txt','hex');
[11:59:40] <odb|fidel_>	as small example
[12:00:01] <odb|fidel_>	afaik uploading .hex was possible without problems in 1.7
[12:00:06] <SpH|Nx>	@platonides: unfortunatly i dont have root access and cannot change the .htaccess file directly 
[12:00:55] <Platonides>	try with $wgCheckFileExtensions = false;
[12:01:03] <SpH|Nx>	ok
[12:01:21] <SpH|Nx>	oh,m that wasnt for me ?
[12:01:24] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: well nice idea, but then again everything is allowed, right ?
[12:01:26] <SpH|Nx>	lol
[12:01:31] <Platonides>	also see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Mime_type_detection
[12:01:32] <odb|fidel_>	or does it just skip the mime check ?
[12:01:46] <Platonides>	it skips the check
[12:01:56] <Platonides>	allow everything would be $wgStrictFileExtensions 
[12:02:15] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: ok thank you very much for that quick help
[12:02:15] <Platonides>	well, it'd allow everything but with different extension ;)
[12:02:24] <Platonides>	:)
[12:02:24] <odb|fidel_>	gonna feedback in some minutes if you are interested in
[12:02:37] <Platonides>	you may want to use 'file' to chek mimes
[12:03:07] <SpH|Nx>	Is it possible to transfer my wiki later to another server? the links then will change, does  this affect my wiki?
[12:04:01] <Platonides>	no, it doesn't
[12:04:01] <odb|fidel_>	SpH|Nx: you can migrate your server1 to server2
[12:04:17] <Platonides>	unless you have hardcoded links as external
[12:05:18] <SpH|Nx>	i want to close server 1 soon
[12:06:27] <odb|fidel_>	mh
[12:09:13] <SpH|Nx>	i have a nearla blank installation. i try to move it on the same server to another position. lets see what happens :)
[12:12:25] <odb|fidel_>	mh
[12:12:26] <SpH|Nx>	it worked fine. just had to adapt the config file.
[12:12:41] <odb|fidel_>	seems like both: CheckFileExtensions = false
[12:12:57] <SpH|Nx>	but i must say, i had only two pages set up yet :)
[12:13:01] <odb|fidel_>	and $wgStrictFileExtensions = false dont help to prevent this problem
[12:14:15] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: any additional idea ?
[12:16:46] <RichiH>	is anyone aware of a tool, preferably perl or vimscript, that transfers CSV into mediawiki tables?
[12:17:46] <RichiH>	i know about http://area23.brightbyte.de/csv2wp.php but i would prefer local command line
[12:18:25] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: does defaultsettings overrule localsettings ?
[12:19:07] <asmarin>	hi
[12:19:10] <Nikerabbit>	hi
[12:21:52] <odb|fidel_>	Platonides: $wgVerifyMimeType = false does the job
[12:24:13] <asmarin>	platonides: aqui ando reconvirtiendo orejotas en escribano, nuestro bot de irc
[12:37:00] <CIA-6>	03proes * r26769 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/php-tools/SwissProtImport.php: Fixed problem with importing similarity data
[12:39:14] <Platonides>	en qué canal?
[12:40:18] <asmarin>	#enciclopedia
[12:40:23] <asmarin>	platonides
[12:58:20] <SF7>	I have been following this guide: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Streamlined_Windows_Install_Guide
[12:58:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Define Utilisatrice: as an alias for User: on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11682 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (le.korrigan)
[12:58:51] <SF7>	but going to LocalHost/MyMediaWiki doesn't  bring up any page
[12:59:22] <SF7>	I don't really know where to go from here.. can someone help?
[13:13:06] <odb|fidel_>	byebye guys
[13:13:12] <odb|fidel_>	and thanks for your help
[13:31:28] <SF7>	anyone home?
[13:34:52] <PunkRock>	no i am at work. 
[13:34:57] <PunkRock>	sorry.
[13:34:58] <ZeiP>	What's the best way to make developer accounts, etc. accounts that aren't listed in the wikis as sysops but have / can obtain sysop and bureaucrat rights?
[13:35:19] <Nikerabbit>	wth
[13:35:26] <ZeiP>	Blah. s/etc/ie/
[13:35:28] <Nikerabbit>	there is no such thing
[13:35:42] <ZeiP>	Well, is there a way to do such thing?
[13:35:53] <Nikerabbit>	fiddle with groups and permission
[13:35:57] <ZeiP>	Preferably without changing the PHP code.
[13:36:09] <ZeiP>	Hmmh. Thanks.
[13:36:17] <Nikerabbit>	or do you mean something crosswiki?
[13:36:24] <ZeiP>	Of course.
[13:36:52] <PunkRock>	SF7: what is the problem:don't you know how to address your server?
[13:36:56] <Nikerabbit>	then no
[13:37:12] <Duesentrieb>	ZeiP: why would you not want them to be listed? that makes no sense.
[13:37:32] <Duesentrieb>	ZeiP: anyway, a real developer will simply set groups directly in the database, if need be
[13:37:36] <ZeiP>	Duesentrieb, well, for me it's the same, but someone else doesn't want the server admins to be listed on each wiki as sysops.
[13:37:58] <Duesentrieb>	list them as something else then. 
[13:38:05] <Duesentrieb>	creating groups and assigning permission is up to you
[13:38:22] <ZeiP>	Yeah, I guess I'll do that. I suppose it's sufficient.
[13:38:24] <ZeiP>	Thanks.
[13:51:53] <CIA-6>	03ilabarg1 * r26770 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: New "epwatch" param added (set to "yes" to add article to watchlist) - (bug 11604).
[13:55:35] <SF7>	I have been following this guide: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Streamlined_Windows_Install_Guide
[13:55:51] <SF7>	but going to LocalHost/MyMediaWiki/index.php - it just tries to download the page
[13:56:01] <SF7>	am a bit stuck.. can someone help?
[13:57:16] <Nikerabbit>	your php is not configured properly
[13:59:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SMW blocked when Extension:Pdf Export is loaded. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11238  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:02:10] <CIA-6>	03ilabarg1 * r26771 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: Action info - getDescription function corrected and getParamDescription function created.
[14:07:15] <NotACow>	meep
[14:08:55] <NotACow>	ooh, stealth instance variables!
[14:09:26] <PunkRock>	.o0()
[14:09:32] <PunkRock>	what?
[14:10:02] <NotACow>	DjVuHandler creates stealth instance variables in class Image
[14:12:25] <PunkRock>	oh. and retrieve the data out of this instances through crystal balls?
[14:14:49] <NotACow>	something like that :)
[14:19:57] <CIA-6>	03erik * r26772 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/App.php: There should be _no_ reference to SwissProt in the shipped App.php
[14:20:43] <ZeiP>	Is there an extension that would fetch some group memberships (user_groups content) from a shared table, while applying also the local table?
[14:21:04] <ZeiP>	Or, is it relatively easy to make such extension?
[14:21:28] <Duesentrieb>	AuthPlugin is a pretty powefull interface.
[14:21:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #58, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11683 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (shinjiman)
[14:21:37] <Duesentrieb>	if it's "easy" depends on the details, and your skill...
[14:24:15] <SF7>	NikeRabbit: How to configure it?
[14:24:38] <ZeiP>	Mmh. Thanks, Duesentrieb.
[14:25:22] <Nikerabbit>	SF7: consult appropriate documentation
[14:28:06] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r26773 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): 
[14:28:06] <CIA-6>	* (bug 11683) Update Chinese translations
[14:28:06] <CIA-6>	 Patch by Shinjiman
[14:28:21] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #58, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11683  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[14:29:38] <SF7>	rabbit: any pointers?  ie where to look?  php.ini?
[14:33:12] <HotMonkeyAC>	question:  i was writing an extension and used a similar extension as a template... when i changed the name, it shows up with &lt; and &gt; around it (in the specialpages list)
[14:33:29] <HotMonkeyAC>	if I change it back, it goes back to normal
[14:33:40] <HotMonkeyAC>	there are no < or > around it
[14:35:58] <HotMonkeyAC>	and if i change every instance of the original name to a new name it adds it around it, and if i change every instance BACK to the original, it still has it around it
[14:41:22] <PunkRock>	SF7: no. not php.ini. you need to get php running. you have to configure apache for that.
[14:41:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upgrading from 1.2 to 1.11 fails with Mysql error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11451  (10caluml)
[14:41:53] <Hojjat>	Hi all. Is there a way to get the list of pages in MediaWiki namespace of a wiki, which are not translation of system messages?
[14:42:05] <Hojjat>	(Like those who were translation of a depricated message?)
[14:43:05] <PunkRock>	SF7: on linux it would mean you have to make the specific available to apache2. this is done via a program called a2enmod (that generates a link)
[14:43:26] <PunkRock>	SF7: i do not have a clue how to do that on windows.
[14:43:47] <Duesentrieb>	use xampp
[14:44:14] <lch>	if I want to write some command line script for MediaWiki, I shouldn't look at DatabaseFunctions.php but only Database.php ?
[14:44:27] <lch>	because in DatabaseFunctions.php it says something about legacy code
[14:44:41] <Duesentrieb>	then don't use it
[14:44:59] <lch>	yeah, just wanted to make sure
[14:45:07] <Duesentrieb>	look at how the scripts in the maintenance dir are built, btw
[14:45:20] <Duesentrieb>	you have to set up a bit of environment in order to use mw on the command line
[14:45:34] <lch>	I am looking at dumpLinks.php right now
[14:45:54] <lch>	and wanted to know about the $dbr->select statement
[14:46:05] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: was "use xampp" to me?
[14:46:37] <Duesentrieb>	no, to SF7 / PunkRock 
[14:47:10] <Duesentrieb>	Hojjat: no idea how to do what you want. Ask Nikerabbit, he probably has tools for stuff like this. He's the i18n dude
[14:50:02] <lch>	is there some doxygen output of the mediawiki source?
[14:50:05] <lch>	somewhere?
[14:52:10] <lch>	nevermind, found it
[14:52:10] <lch>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/
[14:55:33] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: Nikerabbit's solution was simple and brilliant: "get a list and diff it against list of transations"
[14:55:44] <Hojjat>	Don't know why I didn't think of myself :(
[14:56:32] <Duesentrieb>	that's just rephrasing your original question.
[14:57:16] <Hojjat>	Duesentrieb: Yes right. I feel I need to get some rest
[14:58:01] <SF7>	can someone point me to a howto or something?
[14:58:16] <SF7>	i don't even know where to look for a solution
[14:58:29] <Hojjat>	www.mediawiki.org and this channel :)
[14:58:42] <SF7>	:]
[14:58:54] *Hojjat 	grins
[14:58:58] <Duesentrieb>	SF7: either learn to configure apache (look into mod_mime) or uninstall everything and use xampp
[14:58:58] <Hojjat>	;)
[14:59:16] <asmarin>	sf7: yeah install xampp instead other
[14:59:46] <SF7>	so I have to configure Apache so that it can talk with php?
[14:59:59] <asmarin>	yeah but xampp does it for you
[15:00:11] <asmarin>	install all necesary packages into your box windows
[15:00:18] <asmarin>	install and run solution
[15:01:10] *SF7 	googles xampp
[15:01:10] <piksi>	to replace the texts in for example Special:Version - are the texts replacable by some locale-file (the finnish locale i downloaded didn't fix em) ? the text is defined in includes/SpecialVersion.php in $ret variable 
[15:01:13] <SF7>	oooh nice
[15:01:49] <SF7>	Duesentrieb: sorry - I didn't realise earlier you're saying xampp to me
[15:04:42] <PunkRock>	oh man. i go nuts. 
[15:05:36] <PunkRock>	why can't i access stuff via Namespace::getCanonicalIndex(foo). foo is present in the global wgExtraNamespace 
[15:06:25] <PunkRock>	wgExtraNamespaces
[15:06:32] <alnokta>	i don't know why WebServ isn't famous
[15:06:32] *NotACow 	commits with 1380 errors remaining
[15:06:55] <asmarin>	sf7: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Streamlined_Windows_Install_Guide#Easy_simple_.22lazy_man.27s.22_setup_.28using_XAMPP.29
[15:08:56] <alnokta>	well, webserv doesn't require a guide
[15:19:16] <CIA-6>	03thomasv * r26774 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php ProofreadPage.php proofread.js): internationalisation patch, submitted by Lejonel in bug 10255
[15:19:17] <SF7>	in xampp setup, checkboxes: install {apache/mysql/firezilla} as service.   should i check these?
[15:19:45] <ThomasV>	Raymond_: done
[15:20:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Internationalisation of ProofreadPage - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10255  +comment (10thomasV1)
[15:22:33] <Duesentrieb>	SF7: if you want to install them as services...
[15:25:06] <PunkRock>	SF7: i don't think it's necessary
[15:28:58] <Nikerabbit>	uga
[15:30:29] <asmarin>	sf7 perhaps are restarting windows ;-P
[15:30:44] <asmarin>	are no...is
[15:30:46] <asmarin>	hehe
[15:31:32] <alkab>	brion: Why Wikipedia and the sister doesn't use http://wikisophia.org/wiki/Wikitex ?
[15:36:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inability to mix +bot and +sysop flags for bureaucrats ( WMF wikis) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11676  (10robchur)
[15:38:37] <NotACow>	moo
[15:38:45] <NotACow>	why would you want to mix bot and sysop flags? :)
[15:39:03] <NotACow>	everyone knows that bots with sysop rights are the harbringer of global destruction
[15:40:00] <SF7>	awesome - works!
[15:40:34] <SF7>	problem was skype was using port 80 ( which  stopped Apache from running )
[15:40:45] <NotACow>	snerk
[15:40:52] <NotACow>	bad skype!
[15:41:04] <SF7>	mm so i slayed it
[15:41:08] <SF7>	muhahaha
[15:41:42] <SF7>	xampp is very nice!
[15:42:07] <rgsteele>	Hey folks.  Is the recommended solution for restricting access to single pages http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Page_access_restriction_with_MediaWiki ?
[15:44:24] <Simetrical>	rgsteele, the recommended solution is use a different piece of software, MediaWiki doesn't do what you want.
[15:44:28] <Simetrical>	!preventingaccess
[15:44:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Template parameters are not expanded in <ask> queries. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11684 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:44:42] <Simetrical>	!preventingaccess is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access
[15:44:42] <mwbot>	You don't have permission to do that.
[15:44:49] <Simetrical>	Stupid bot.
[15:44:56] <MinuteElectron>	@trust wikipedia/Simetrical
[15:44:56] <mwbot>	Added wikipedia/Simetrical to trusted hostnames list.
[15:44:59] <MinuteElectron>	@trusted
[15:44:59] <mwbot>	[wikipedia/AmiDaniel, wikimedia/Eagle-101, wikipedia/Simetrical, silentflame/member/pdpc.base.minuteelectron, fuchsia.knams.wikimedia.org, c-67-171-249-42.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, 222-153-0-95.jetstream.xtra.co.nz, rrcs-24-106-76-181.central.biz.rr.com, wikimedia/Danny-B., wikipedia/duesentrieb, cc1081997-b.harli1.fr.home.nl]
[15:45:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Template parameters are not expanded in <ask> queries. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11684  (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:45:05] <MinuteElectron>	bah
[15:45:12] <MinuteElectron>	@untrust wikipedia/Simetrical
[15:45:12] <mwbot>	Removed wikipedia/Simetrical from trusted hostnames list.
[15:45:18] <MinuteElectron>	I swear you had that cloak...
[15:45:18] <flyingparchment>	having to keep adding dynamic hosts to the bot is kinda silly
[15:45:32] <MinuteElectron>	@trust cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com
[15:45:32] <mwbot>	Added cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com to trusted hostnames list.
[15:45:35] <MinuteElectron>	flyingparchment: I know.
[15:45:36] <MinuteElectron>	@trusted
[15:45:36] <mwbot>	[wikipedia/AmiDaniel, wikimedia/Eagle-101, silentflame/member/pdpc.base.minuteelectron, cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com, fuchsia.knams.wikimedia.org, c-67-171-249-42.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, 222-153-0-95.jetstream.xtra.co.nz, rrcs-24-106-76-181.central.biz.rr.com, wikimedia/Danny-B., wikipedia/duesentrieb, cc1081997-b.harli1.fr.home.nl]
[15:45:42] <MinuteElectron>	Simetrical: You're laughing :)
[15:46:03] <Simetrical>	And this is a *wiki* bot?
[15:46:05] <Simetrical>	Excuse me?
[15:46:16] <MinuteElectron>	oO
[15:46:22] <Simetrical>	I did have that cloak.
[15:46:30] <MinuteElectron>	You don't have it ATM.
[15:46:40] <Simetrical>	I forgot my password, and will get it reset sometime.
[15:46:56] <Simetrical>	But the bloody thing should just let anyone change it, what's the harm in it?
[15:47:10] <MinuteElectron>	Simetrical: Ok, will add it for now - but remind me or someone to remove nyc.res.rr.com once you get recloaked :)
[15:47:11] <Simetrical>	This is #mediawiki here.
[15:47:16] <MinuteElectron>	@trust wikipedia/Simetrical
[15:47:16] <mwbot>	Added wikipedia/Simetrical to trusted hostnames list.
[15:47:22] <MinuteElectron>	Simetrical: I will memo amidaniel about it.
[15:47:31] <flyingparchment>	MinuteElectron: add my current host too?
[15:47:38] <MinuteElectron>	flyingparchment: sure
[15:47:39] <flyingparchment>	not that i ever use the bot..
[15:47:54] <MinuteElectron>	@trust clematis.knams.wikimedia.org
[15:47:54] <mwbot>	Added clematis.knams.wikimedia.org to trusted hostnames list.
[15:47:59] <Simetrical>	Incidentally, my current host isn't dynamic, I don't think.  Certainly not as long as I don't restart my computer, which I generally do only do when it crashes.
[15:48:00] <flyingparchment>	thx
[15:48:07] <MinuteElectron>	np
[15:48:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Template parameters are not expanded in <ask> queries. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11684  (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:48:20] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: it's probably similar to mine, as long as you keep renewing the lease before it gets reallocated, it stays the same
[15:48:20] <HotMonkeyAC>	jlerner_: i wrote that extension we were talking about
[15:48:22] <Simetrical>	It just does a substring search?
[15:48:31] <Simetrical>	@trust .
[15:48:31] <mwbot>	Added . to trusted hostnames list.
[15:48:35] <Simetrical>	There we go.
[15:48:37] <flyingparchment>	haha
[15:48:39] <jlerner_>	HotMonkeyAC: awesome
[15:48:49] <_Danny_B_>	@untrust .
[15:48:49] <mwbot>	Removed . from trusted hostnames list.
[15:48:49] <Simetrical>	!preventingaccess is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access
[15:48:49] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: preventingaccess
[15:48:56] <MinuteElectron>	@trused
[15:48:59] <MinuteElectron>	@trusted
[15:48:59] <mwbot>	[wikipedia/AmiDaniel, wikimedia/Eagle-101, silentflame/member/pdpc.base.minuteelectron, wikipedia/Simetrical, cpe-69-201-152-135.nyc.res.rr.com, wikimedia/Danny-B., cc1081997-b.harli1.fr.home.nl, wikipedia/duesentrieb, clematis.knams.wikimedia.org, c-67-171-249-42.hsd1.wa.comcast.net, fuchsia.knams.wikimedia.org, 222-153-0-95.jetstream.xtra.co.nz, rrcs-24-106-76-181.central.biz.rr.com]
[15:49:03] <HotMonkeyAC>	I'll get it uploaded and you can try it 
[15:49:11] <jlerner_>	HotMonkeyAC: excellent
[15:49:26] <flyingparchment>	there are so many infobots available already, why did we need to NIH it anyway?
[15:49:51] <MinuteElectron>	NIH?
[15:49:59] *NotACow 	sniggles.
[15:50:03] <NotACow>	all bots are evil :)
[15:50:04] <flyingparchment>	not invented here (writing something custom instead of using existing stuff)
[15:50:18] <NotACow>	flyingparchment: like using mediawiki instead of usemod? :)
[15:50:38] <SF7>	I am on the first mediawiki set-up page -  it is asking for a database name/user/pass: the howto  doesn't mention any database.   what is going on?
[15:50:56] <NotACow>	usemod is a perfectly good wiki engine!  there was never any reason to write mediawiki.  NIH, pshaw!
[15:51:07] *NotACow 	giggles
[15:51:27] *NotACow 	mutters at eclipse for being difficult
[15:51:55] <PunkRock>	thats strange: i add extra stuff on wgExtraNamespace. the content in Namespace for $wgCanonicalNamespaceNames changes. but the new stuff does not show up in $xNamespaces
[15:52:06] <PunkRock>	look here: http://pastey.net/75376-2n8l?lang=null
[15:54:10] <PunkRock>	do you have an idea why this is caused?
[15:54:20] <PunkRock>	argh
[15:54:23] <PunkRock>	i have one. 
[15:54:32] <PunkRock>	xNamespace is not empty.
[15:54:41] <PunkRock>	darn. sorry
[15:55:03] <SF7>	 what is the database for?   storing the different pages of the wiki?   the edits?
[15:55:29] <PunkRock>	yes. yes. 
[15:55:33] <PunkRock>	:)
[15:55:49] <PunkRock>	nearly everything is stored there. 
[15:56:35] <Simetrical>	SF7, it's used to store everything that isn't entered into LocalSettings.php except for stored files, like uploaded images.
[15:56:37] <PunkRock>	the history of the pages. the users. 
[15:56:45] <Simetrical>	Every other piece of data is put in the database.
[15:57:01] <Simetrical>	(not counting the code, which all shipped with the software and isn't wiki-specific)
[15:57:33] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r26775 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php ProofreadPage.php): 
[15:57:33] <CIA-6>	* Bump version number for JS
[15:57:33] <CIA-6>	* Update German
[15:57:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing a username changes the name, leaving contribution record behind. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11661  (10robchur)
[15:58:26] <SF7>	Simetrical: do I have to create this database,  or does it already come in the MediaWiki zip?
[15:59:23] <SF7>	I am stuck filling out the fields in the configuration page ( the first one, when I point My browser To localhost/myWiki
[15:59:24] <Simetrical>	SF7, you need to have MySQL installed.  You can then create it yourself, or just give MediaWiki a MySQL account name and password that can create the database.  For instance, this might be your "root" MySQL login.
[15:59:49] <Simetrical>	SF7, do you have access to something like phpMyAdmin, or a command line, or neither?
[16:00:04] <SF7>	yes I am running on XP
[16:00:25] <Simetrical>	SF7, that doesn't answer the question . . .
[16:00:38] <SF7>	 I can get a command lime
[16:01:22] <Simetrical>	SF7, do you have MySQL installed?  If so, you should have a root username and password.  Enter that on the configuration page.
[16:02:49] <SF7>	 I ran xampp, which installed MySQL automatically - in never prompted me for user  / password
[16:04:09] <SF7>	oh just clicked on admin,  and it gave me the Prompt to put them in
[16:04:16] <SF7>	maybe this  will work now
[16:04:22] <Simetrical>	SF7, consult the xampp documentation for how to set the MySQL root password.
[16:06:51] <SF7>	mmk
[16:09:03] <Thib_>	I'd like to change a wiki instance from having the hashed directory/URL structure for uploaded files to not having it. What do I need to do other than set the corresponding setting? I doubt I can just switch the boolean without either moving some files manually or possibly run a database job or something.
[16:11:43] <SF7>	 can anyone  throw me a link for documentation about how to create the database MediaWiki needs?
[16:12:36] <MinuteElectron>	if you specifiy the root db user and password in the superuser thing during setup mediawiki will make it iteself
[16:13:53] <SF7>	the  problem is that it is not making it
[16:13:57] <Thib_>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgHashedUploadDirectory states "This parameter can not be changed after the first image or file has been uploaded (or you need to move all previous uploaded pictures)" but it doesn't say how you would go about that, nor does the discussion page.
[16:14:21] <SF7>	 it keeps saying Something's not quite right yet; make sure everything below is filled out correctly.
[16:15:06] <SF7>	then 'check user name and password'
[16:16:16] <CIA-6>	03ilabarg1 * r26776 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: First approach to support SpamBlacklist extension.
[16:17:57] <xhaju>	hello everybody
[16:18:49] <PunkRock>	man. i don't get this: in Namespace.php  <snip>static $xNamespaces = false;if ( $xNamespaces === false ) { </snip>
[16:19:14] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[16:19:22] <xhaju>	I've got a problem concerning security. In LocalSettings.php are stored user an password of mysql database mediawiki is using. Via web, you can't access this file, but if you do an wget you can easily have access to it
[16:19:26] <PunkRock>	this should always result the if condition to be true
[16:19:28] <xhaju>	what can i do?
[16:19:39] <MinuteElectron>	SF7: Well, guess what: your username and password must be incorrect.
[16:20:07] <MinuteElectron>	xhaju: wget = Via web
[16:20:19] <xhaju>	?
[16:20:32] <MinuteElectron>	It is the same thing.
[16:20:37] <xhaju>	ahm, sorry
[16:20:42] <MinuteElectron>	There is no way they can get your LocalSettings.php passwords unless your PHP server breaks for some reason.
[16:20:56] <xhaju>	i can get it
[16:21:01] <MinuteElectron>	Yeah?
[16:21:01] <xhaju>	as a fact, i got it
[16:21:02] <SF7>	it's the same user/pass that I just put into MySqlAdmin
[16:21:28] <MinuteElectron>	Well, you can't unless your server is broken.
[16:21:41] <xhaju>	and.....how can I "repair" it?
[16:21:42] <flyingparchment>	xhaju: you can download the file, but it's empty
[16:21:47] <xhaju>	no
[16:21:50] <xhaju>	it's complete
[16:22:02] <flyingparchment>	then you have somehow disabled PHP in that directory
[16:22:12] <flyingparchment>	because the entire file is enclosed in <?php
[16:22:17] <xhaju>	oh!
[16:22:18] <xhaju>	sorry
[16:22:25] <xhaju>	yes...it's empty
[16:22:41] <xhaju>	i downloaded a copy which where inside another directory
[16:22:42] <xhaju>	sorry
[16:23:36] <SF7>	in WinMySQLAdmin -> environment tab -> myODBC it says ' not found..  driver 3.51 not found'
[16:24:02] <SF7>	does that mean my database failed to get created?
[16:24:03] <PunkRock>	SF7: you don't need odbc
[16:24:04] <MinuteElectron>	that is irrelevant
[16:24:38] <SF7>	 in the databases Tab there is nothing either
[16:27:40] <SF7>	in the myini setup tab, it shows my user name and password: joe:blogs
[16:27:51] <SF7>	but if I put these into this set-up page it does not work
[16:28:08] <MinuteElectron>	the my.ini username and password is different
[16:28:25] <MinuteElectron>	in your xampp control panel there is a section in security for setting mysql username and password
[16:29:34] <xhaju>	thx to all
[16:29:36] <xhaju>	bye!
[16:30:33] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[16:31:03] <SF7>	 cannot see  any security  options
[16:32:34] <SF7>	I am not even convinced I have a database - if it exists how can I find it?
[16:32:49] <SF7>	did it come in the mediawiki tarball?
[16:49:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ConfirmAccount extension : french localization update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11667  +comment (10bertrand.grondin)
[16:51:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ConfirmAccount extension : french localization update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11667  (10bertrand.grondin)
[16:56:48] <steko>	hi
[16:57:19] <steko>	how can I disable an image acting as a link to the image page ?
[16:58:10] <Zaphoid>	Is there a way to always show the context for search matches?
[16:58:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539  (10brion)
[16:59:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) parseQuery method missing from SearchMySQL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11563   +easy (10brion)
[17:00:59] <sheldonrampton>	Hi, all. Is there a global variable that I can set in Mediawiki to enable simple insertion of HTML (such as an HTML form) into wiki pages? I know that would be a security hole on publicly-edited sites, but I want to do it on a privately-controlled wiki.
[17:01:51] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowRawHtml
[17:01:57] <Jack_Phoenix>	whoops
[17:02:24] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRawHtml
[17:03:16] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Add DIFF to deleted contributions. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11606  +comment (10brion)
[17:03:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add DIFF to deleted contributions. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11606   +easy (10brion)
[17:08:02] <sheldonrampton>	Jack_Phoenix, thanks!
[17:08:18] <Jack_Phoenix>	np
[17:09:12] <HotMonkeyAC>	jlerner_: you there?
[17:09:21] <jlerner_>	HotMonkeyAC: yes
[17:09:30] <HotMonkeyAC>	here you go: http://cookandy.com/2007/10/16/yet-another-mediawiki-extension-email-users/
[17:09:45] <Zaphoid>	Is there a way to always show the context in search results?
[17:12:55] <jlerner_>	HotMonkeyAC: neat - what was the reason for using phpmailer instead of the built-in class?
[17:13:34] <HotMonkeyAC>	well, the existing extension was written that way, - i actully need to add that to the todo list :)
[17:14:15] <jlerner_>	ah, ok
[17:14:21] <jlerner_>	very cool
[17:14:27] <HotMonkeyAC>	Thanks :)
[17:18:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Automate cache expiration for pages using DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11685 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList; (brion)
[17:19:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove "Do you want to purge" screen for anons on Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11617  (10brion)
[17:21:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow &from= and &until= parameters together in Special:Allpages . - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2448  summary; +comment (10brion)
[17:24:10] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Provide extension for title blacklisting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11622  +comment (10brion)
[17:25:03] <VasilievVV|NA>	brion: and what about installing extension like BlockTitles on Wikimedia?
[17:26:29] <CIA-6>	03kim * r26777 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Copy.php: 
[17:26:29] <CIA-6>	In page history, the copy user was from the destination
[17:26:29] <CIA-6>	dataset, not the source dataset. Please check if things are ok now.
[17:27:03] <gushi>	Hey all...silly question...how closely does Mediawiki match the wikitext spec at http://podius.wox.org/documentation/wikitext-spec.html -- does mediawiki support that full spec?
[17:27:11] <dynedain>	does anyone know what config options/extensions are being used for the search pages on the various wikimedia projects? I like the "relevance" results and the layout, but can't find anything that mentions it on mediawiki.org or meta.wikimedia.org
[17:27:32] <flyingparchment>	gushi: that syntax is completely unrelated to mediawiki
[17:28:30] <gushi>	well, true, I realize there's not a w3c-standard for wikitext.
[17:28:44] <gushi>	But I notice at least the ===headers=== are the asme.
[17:28:46] <gushi>	er same.
[17:29:29] <ZeiP>	Ok. If I want to modify $wgUser->mGroups so that the modification actually takes effect before the variable is used, would it be possible?
[17:35:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add DIFF to deleted contributions. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11606  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[17:50:36] <SF7>	 I figured out how to create a database using XAMPP: I can do it just going to /localhost.  but then setting up the mediawiki ( by going to /localhost/
[17:51:37] <SF7>	testing
[17:51:44] <SF7>	.. /localhost/MyWiki still cannot accept the database  named, user name password
[17:53:29] <SF7>	 does anyone have Experience getting MediaWiki working in XP from XAMPP?
[17:53:42] <CIA-6>	03brion * r26778 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeLoader.php: adjust caching limit
[17:54:53] <SF7>	is CIA-6 reporting every time someone modifys the source code or something?
[17:55:19] <Raymond_>	SF7: yes.
[18:01:29] <SF7>	neat! so you can see which developers are active,   and make sure they don't both edit the same  bit at the same time
[18:01:49] <SF7>	 I wonder why Linux doesn't do that
[18:04:52] <Simetrical>	You mean the Linux kernel developers?
[18:05:16] <Simetrical>	Do they do it?  It's a much more active project.
[18:06:44] <Zaphoid>	Pretty sure the current kernel developers are using Git
[18:07:28] <Zaphoid>	I'm trying to figure out why some searches just return the article links, not the context in which the results appear.
[18:08:08] <demagggus>	SF7: I've got a local wiki running on windows 2000 using XAMPP
[18:08:25] <demagggus>	what problem do you exactly have?
[18:09:40] <SF7>	demaggus:  that is exactly what I'm trying to get running
[18:10:21] <SF7>	 problem is when I go to localhost/mywiki - and start filling out the page, it rejects whatever I put in the server options
[18:10:40] <SF7>	 even though I have gone to localhost and created a database
[18:10:46] <flyingparchment>	SF7: what does it say?
[18:10:52] <SF7>	 sorry database options not  server options
[18:11:18] <SF7>	 is says: 'Something's not quite right yet; make sure everything below is filled out correctly.'
[18:11:27] <flyingparchment>	scroll down, there should be another error in red
[18:11:46] <SF7>	then next to the database fields it says:  checkuser name and password
[18:12:19] <SF7>	 but what do I check them against?
[18:12:30] <demagggus>	I think you have to check your database-settings in phpmyadmin
[18:12:50] <SF7>	I have and  they are consistent
[18:13:03] <SF7>	 I created a data base in phpmyadmin
[18:13:15] <flyingparchment>	SF7: there should be a mysql error somewhere on the page.  try the output at the top
[18:14:08] <SF7>	I don't recall putting in a user name password into the database tho.  I just gave it a name and a format.
[18:14:29] <SF7>	 maybe this is the problem?
[18:16:10] <SF7>	 I cannot see any mysql  error on any page.    do I have to look at the page source?
[18:18:38] <SF7>	someone said to me the  username and password get dynamically created
[18:19:45] <demagggus>	SF7: I don't really know...all I can say that I set a password...maybe you should to set one
[18:21:26] <Rowejob>	I got a question  to change the Logo you need to change the $wgLogo but when I vi the LocalSetting.php it is not there
[18:21:28] <Rowejob>	do I just add it
[18:21:50] <demagggus>	SF7: have a look in your localsettings.php; there you can find $DBpassword
[18:24:31] <SF7>	don't have a localsettings.php
[18:25:43] <SF7>	I have defaultsettings.php but that doesn't contain the string 
[18:35:08] <toonces>	Does anybody know how to protect a wiki page with ldap authentication in apache?
[18:35:36] <toonces>	that is, are there any settings in apache that might conflict with the wiki settings
[18:35:42] <SF7>	demaggus: where did you set it?
[18:35:51] <toonces>	in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[18:36:03] <toonces>	i have it set up to use ldap using a configuration that i have running on a different server
[18:36:12] <toonces>	and on the server hosting the wiki, it doesn't work
[18:36:14] <CIA-6>	03brion * r26779 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/NoticePage.php: Session paranoia... session cookies sometimes get spewed out, depending on PHP version, and we'd rather not be caching such.
[18:36:31] <toonces>	SF7: oops, thought you were asking me haha
[18:38:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add DIFF to deleted contributions. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11606  (10brion)
[18:53:40] <Rockj>	Hi, shouldn\t I be able to just view source on this page and copy it to my wiki to get same css? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css
[19:02:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add DIFF to deleted contributions. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11606  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:03:00] <AaronSchulz>	brion: :)
[19:05:12] <demagggus>	SF7: where exactly did you  uncompress the mediawiki source tree?
[19:06:27] <demagggus>	htdocs directory?
[19:07:06] <brion>	AaronSchulz: thx :)
[19:07:14] <AaronSchulz>	brion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5hCczfGYv0
[19:07:18] <AaronSchulz>	oh god that's funny
[19:08:27] <brion>	o_O
[19:09:25] *brion 	doesn't have the attention span for youtube anymore
[19:09:48] <AaronSchulz>	brion: skip to 3:00
[19:09:58] <brion>	is that where he cuts himself? :D
[19:11:04] <AaronSchulz>	well, he wraps his arm in protective chi energy first ;)
[19:11:41] <brion>	tsk tsk
[19:20:45] <Rockj>	is there a way I can force some part of a wikipedia article to be parsed as html? 
[19:21:10] <Colin_Finck>	hello, is there an easy function or variable if I want to get the selected user language?
[19:21:37] <Colin_Finck>	Rockj: maybe the <nowiki> </nowiki> tags are what you want
[19:24:14] <flyingparchment>	Rockj: allowing arbitrary html would be a security risk, so no
[19:24:24] <Rockj>	Colin_Finck: noted but not exactly what I wanted. I've added some css classes into Mediawiki:Common.css , but if I use wrapped html items, only the first one seems to retreive the css
[19:24:26] <flyingparchment>	Rockj: mediawiki allows a safe subset of html
[19:24:47] <Rockj>	I wanted to clone this webpage: http://antibiomatika.net/usenet/quoting.html
[19:24:55] <Rockj>	its a page about "how to quote" in our wiki. 
[19:25:21] <Rockj>	hum, but I should be able to use colors in wiki, just not sure how
[19:25:34] <flyingparchment>	<span style='color: ...
[19:26:14] <SF7>	I can't get  past the initial WikiMedia configuration screen
[19:26:31] <SF7>	it just won't accept a user name password for the database
[19:26:42] <AzaTht>	brion: away?
[19:26:47] <Rockj>	I have this: <pre class="wrong"><span class="msgheader">   , first class it reads but the second span tag it just prints out on the wiki.
[19:26:54] <SF7>	 I cannot find any relevant documentation
[19:27:00] <SF7>	 can anyone help?
[19:28:33] <Rockj>	flyingparchment: so any way to make wikipedia parse 2 levels, instead of only one?
[19:28:40] <AzaTht>	brion: could following be implemented? (in pseudo code) on section_edit( if(sumary.contains_autolinkify() && summary.autolinkify() == old_section_name && old_section_name != new_section_name) { summary.replace(old_name, new_name);}
[19:28:41] <AzaTht>	?
[19:29:18] <brion>	AzaTht: erm.... like if someone changes the section header text while secion-editing, you mean?
[19:29:34] <AzaTht>	yea
[19:29:46] <AzaTht>	to update the autolinkify on the fly
[19:30:38] <brion>	could be done i suppose
[19:31:15] <AzaTht>	also, could 5678 be fixed? ツ
[19:31:57] <brion>	fuck if i know, dude
[19:32:41] <demagggus>	SF7: where exactly did you uncompress the mediawiki source tree?
[19:34:51] <Duesentrieb>	SF7: "it just won't accept a user name password for the database"... well... die you set a root password for mysql? you need to do that. and supply it to the installer (as the database root password)
[19:39:46] <SF7>	demaggus: C:\xampp\htdocs\MyWiki
[19:40:14] <SF7>	Duesentrieb: where/how do I set the MySQL password?
[19:42:02] <SF7>	o gottit
[19:53:46] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Hover functionality on footnotes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11515  +comment (10gtisza)
[19:53:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Footnotes content should appear in a tooltip - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7908  +comment (10gtisza)
[19:56:58] <AzaTht>	brion: made a patch(tm)
[19:57:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10cbrown1023)
[20:04:13] <frieze>	Anyone have any suggestions for extensions outside of ParserFunctions that would be needed to make the infobox company template form wikipedia work on my wiki?
[20:04:44] <frieze>	Currently it passes through all the code generated by the template as wiki text instead of leaving it as html
[20:05:44] <Duesentrieb>	frieze: that last statement doesn't really make sense. what do you mean? 
[20:05:51] <Duesentrieb>	it's escaping the html tags?
[20:06:38] <eyaluth>	Frieze: Do you have all the transcluded templates?
[20:07:20] <frieze>	eyaluth: yes
[20:08:02] <frieze>	yeah. it's converting the angle brackets into &lt's and whatnot so all the html shows up as text in the page
[20:08:54] <Duesentrieb>	it shouldn't do that. got a link?
[20:09:17] <frieze>	my wiki is up on an internal network that I can't open up
[20:09:56] <Duesentrieb>	then you'll have to find the problem yourself, i'm afraid.
[20:10:14] <frieze>	no obvious red flags you can see from teh problem description?
[20:10:34] <Duesentrieb>	nope, should work.
[20:10:46] <frieze>	my favorite kind of problem
[20:10:47] <eyaluth>	Maybe parserfunctions is installed wrong?  I just tried on a clean install with pf and it worked.
[20:11:05] <Duesentrieb>	yea, check for that on special:Version
[20:11:15] <Duesentrieb>	but... the result would be different
[20:11:20] <frieze>	hmm...
[20:11:23] <Duesentrieb>	you'd be seeing the function code, not html
[20:11:35] <frieze>	I copied manually instead of using svn, so that may be worth a shot
[20:12:53] <eyaluth>	If you go to Template:Infobox Company, what shows up on that page?
[20:13:57] <frieze>	I copied the doc page over as well, but the spot on that page where the demo company infobox should show up jsut shows the html source of the infobox in plain as well
[20:14:21] <frieze>	when I go to edit it's just the code I copied off of wikipedia's view source tab
[20:16:10] <eyaluth>	hmmm, one second my code my not be fresh it also has this installed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExpandTemplates
[20:17:11] <frieze>	and you put expandtemplates.php into your localsettings?
[20:17:20] <eyaluth>	one second, I'm checking if thats it
[20:17:49] <Duesentrieb>	expandtemplates should be completely unrelated
[20:18:05] <Duesentrieb>	it doesn't interfere with syntax
[20:18:10] <Duesentrieb>	it provides a special page
[20:20:20] <frieze>	the template actually works okay for the first 10 lines of source, but from the line starting <tr class="note... al the text is printed directly instead of left in html. 
[20:20:49] <arvernes>	I try to write a template. Is there a meta name for "section" ?
[20:21:37] <brion>	sigh
[20:21:40] <eyaluth>	frieze: sorry, can't help you anymore unless I could see it, try removing and putting parserfuctions back
[20:21:46] <brion>	why are my article and talk tabs coming up blank?
[20:21:50] <frieze>	I'll look into that
[20:22:02] <brion>						 <li id="ca-nstab-main"><a href="" title="View the content page [c]" accesskey="c"></a></li>
[20:23:09] <eyaluth>	arvernes: Sorry, I don't understand.
[20:24:02] <frieze>	i'll give that a shot
[20:24:11] <arvernes>	in a page, I can edit each article (section). I try to find a metaname (?) for such "section".
[20:25:08] <Duesentrieb>	arvernes: "meta name"?
[20:25:57] <arvernes>	Hi Duesentrieb . Yes, that word is certainly wrong. I try to find out the name for a "section", as we have one for a page as {{PAGENAME}}
[20:26:18] <Duesentrieb>	ah, a magic word/variable.
[20:26:21] <Duesentrieb>	it doesn't exist
[20:26:43] <Duesentrieb>	sections are a bit... ephemeral.
[20:27:01] <Duesentrieb>	the database doesn't know about them, and the parser doesn't really want to know about them. or something like that
[20:27:05] <arvernes>	yes, but it would have been useful imho.
[20:27:55] <Duesentrieb>	hm, ephemeral doesn't quite mean what i thought it meant :) webster to the rescue!
[20:28:14] <arvernes>	;-)
[20:28:20] <Duesentrieb>	arvernes: a lot of things would have been useful. having a real parser or a formal spec for the syntax, for example.
[20:28:37] <NotACow>	Duesentrieb: heh
[20:28:45] <NotACow>	Duesentrieb: the parser makes my tummy hurt.
[20:28:59] <Duesentrieb>	"parser" is an euphemism. it's a munger
[20:29:06] <NotACow>	Duesentrieb: so true.
[20:29:23] <CIA-6>	03brion * r26780 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: Revert r26762 -- destroys article and talk tab text. Reversed condition and/or generally broken code.
[20:38:12] <frieze>	well that didn't help. google found someone else's wiki with the same (or a very similar) problem
[20:38:13] <frieze>	http://www.ottosen.com/wikipharmaceutical/index.php/Teva_Pharmaceutical_Industries
[20:41:22] <Duesentrieb>	frieze: wait... try turning on tidy.
[20:41:33] <Duesentrieb>	$wgUseTidy = true;
[20:42:09] <Duesentrieb>	if it's off, the combination of tables and templates and parserfunctions somethimes fucks up
[20:42:44] <jimbojw>	hello all - I have a Parser internals question
[20:42:47] <frieze>	is that an extension?
[20:46:27] <jimbojw>	my understanding is that Parser::strip() "calls" all the extension tags, however, Parser::replaceVariables() is where transcluded templates are resolved - so when are extension tags within transcluded templates evaluated?
[20:47:46] <jimbojw>	ah, Parser::braceSubstitution()
[20:48:02] *jimbojw 	goes back to brain surgery
[20:48:14] <Duesentrieb>	frieze: no, it's a basic option.
[20:48:30] <frieze>	I see. not commented out in the localsettings. installing now
[20:48:44] <Duesentrieb>	...?
[20:48:51] <Duesentrieb>	jimbojw: good luck :)
[20:49:19] <jimbojw>	Duesentrieb: thanks
[20:49:27] *jimbojw 	sobs into his cold mug of coffee
[20:50:07] <Duesentrieb>	eeewww... salty coffee...
[20:50:15] <jimbojw>	i've never read through the braceSubstitution() code, I guess today is a good day
[20:50:34] <Duesentrieb>	i tried several times.
[20:50:42] <Duesentrieb>	and failed. miserably.
[20:52:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680  (10jorohr)
[20:58:31] <jimbojw>	dang - there are no wfRuhHooks in either braceSubstitution() or strip()
[20:58:37] <jimbojw>	hrm
[21:03:34] <jimbojw>	i wonder if it would be evil to iterate over the key/value pairs in the mStriptState and make changes to the vlues
[21:04:16] *Duesentrieb 	shudders
[21:05:13] <jimbojw>	heh
[21:05:23] <NotACow>	jimbojw: i think you just descended another level into hell.
[21:05:38] <jimbojw>	ok cool - as long as I haven't hit bottom
[21:05:56] <Duesentrieb>	dude. it's the bottomLES pit!
[21:06:09] <jimbojw>	that's strangely comforting
[21:06:26] <Duesentrieb>	free falling...
[21:06:31] <jimbojw>	i'm trying to inject text immediately before an extension tag
[21:06:52] <jimbojw>	so if an article contains <tag>, I want to put say __STUFF__<tag> there
[21:07:02] <Duesentrieb>	why?
[21:07:19] <jimbojw>	it's a requirement
[21:07:27] <Duesentrieb>	o_O
[21:07:29] <Duesentrieb>	for what?
[21:07:34] <Duesentrieb>	is cream cheese a requirement too?
[21:08:01] <jimbojw>	separation of concerns
[21:08:26] <jimbojw>	in theory I could modify <tag> to output what I need, but then that functionality is coupled
[21:08:32] <Duesentrieb>	it sure separates your concern from mine...
[21:09:37] <jimbojw>	in my case, the output of <tag> has nothing to do with the __STUFF__ I want to inject - and my requirements may change in the future such that __STUFF__ needs to be injected somewheres else
[21:09:58] <jimbojw>	maybe I'm obsessing
[21:12:11] <Duesentrieb>	err, if __STUFF__ has nothing to do with <tag>, then you would you insert it just before <tag>?
[21:12:24] <jimbojw>	right - programatically
[21:12:41] <jimbojw>	so later on I may get a requirement to move __STUFF__ say to the top of the article
[21:12:44] <jimbojw>	or the end
[21:12:47] <jimbojw>	or after the TOC
[21:13:07] <jimbojw>	right now they want it before a particular <tag>, or at the end of the article if such a tag isn't present
[21:13:39] <Duesentrieb>	uh, just do a search & replace?
[21:13:53] <jimbojw>	right
[21:14:11] <jimbojw>	i can do that just fine from ParserBeforeStrip providing <tag> appears in the body of the article
[21:14:21] <jimbojw>	but if it's in a template which is transcluded in, I can't get at it
[21:14:38] <jimbojw>	because that's rendered inside braceSubstitution()
[21:14:55] <jimbojw>	and after strip(), there's no remnant of the name of the tag which triggered it
[21:15:25] <jimbojw>	so I could in theory traverse mStripState's items after strip() and detect the probable output of <tag> and change the value inline
[21:15:48] <jimbojw>	but then I'm coupling my detection code to the output of <tag> when really the fact that it's <tag> at all should be sufficient
[21:17:16] <jimbojw>	salright Duesentrieb - I'll figure it out, or give up
[21:32:41] <NotACow>	w000t! 998 errors
[21:33:05] *NotACow 	commits
[21:52:34] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26781 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php): *Generalize anononly option with $wgFlaggedRevsExceptions
[22:06:40] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r26782 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Stop stable diff from showing up when not needed
[22:10:01] <AaronSchulz>	brion: if I wanted to make a checkuser log table, could I just avoid giving it a prefix?
[22:10:54] <brion>	umm... dunno
[22:11:03] <brion>	if it's part of a wiki, then no -- use the prefix always
[22:11:10] <brion>	otherwise you'll break when multiple wikis are used in the database
[22:11:21] <AaronSchulz>	I want it to be global :(
[22:11:28] <brion>	if it's its own unique database, then be careful about selecting the correct database server connection
[22:11:33] <Mersault>	I installed mediawiki last week, and while looking at how to do tables it appears that there's a new toolbar available somewhere that I don't have. Is this an extension, or do I have to edit a file somewhere to enable the extra buttons?
[22:11:46] <AaronSchulz>	brion: how is centralauth going about it?
[22:11:59] <brion>	has its own db, and some sort of horrifying stuff
[22:12:01] <brion>	i forget all
[22:12:03] <brion>	it's evil :D
[22:12:15] <brion>	i think it's using $wgAlternateMaster for selection
[22:12:33] <brion>	going for dinner
[22:12:35] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, maybe you can do the checkuser relogging then :)
[22:14:06] <Duesentrieb>	gnah
[22:14:34] <AaronSchulz>	gnu
[22:15:15] <AaronSchulz>	ok, should I clean out some hard drive cruft, partition, and drop in Ubuntu on it?
[22:15:25] *AaronSchulz 	is happy with XP though...
[22:25:21] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r26784 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 
[22:25:21] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:25:21] <CIA-6>	* Fixes and additions to 6 extensions for it, sk, zea
[22:55:12] <marchelly>	how to add keywords to wiki article ?
[23:04:32] <flyingparchment>	how stable in postgres support in trunk?  can i develop with it?
[23:04:56] <G_SabinoMullane>	Sure.
[23:08:43] <eyaluth>	marchelly: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag
[23:08:58] <marchelly>	eyaluth, thanks
[23:09:29] <flyingparchment>	hm.. how do i grant tsearch2 access to a user?
[23:11:09] <flyingparchment>	ah nm, found it
[23:14:11] <flyingparchment>	hey, it works
[23:19:19] <flyingparchment>	neat, even got url rewriting working with sun web server
[23:19:56] <flyingparchment>	heh, [[Manual:Short URLs]] is getting even stupidier by the day
[23:38:24] <CIA-6>	03brion * r26785 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (4 files): 
[23:38:24] <CIA-6>	* fix to allow the project/lang vars to be set properly...
[23:38:24] <CIA-6>	* some experimental code for testing editing, incomplete and commented out :)
[23:40:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Persistent" login expires many times within a single session - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1396  +comment (10phillipa.bere)
[23:41:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) make #time work with pre-1970 dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (gtisza)
[23:57:50] <eyaluth>	Does anybody know of some code to make this work for MediaWiki ( http://www.duggmirror.com/programming/Preventing_SPAM_without_using_a_CAPTCHA/ )?