[00:14:41] 03(mod) Renaming class User to MWUser - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11688 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:21:50] 03(mod) Renaming class User to MWUser - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11688 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:21:57] 03(mod) Renaming class User to MWUser - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11688 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:53:05] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Licenses/ foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special:Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brianna.laugher) [01:33:21] hi [01:33:59] is this a bug? http://img1.myimg.de/WikipediaBug9f92b.png PDD's last edit was protecting the article. But I am not an administrator and could edit the page [01:36:50] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Licenses/foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special: Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 +comment (10ewenste) [01:47:03] PetarM, was it full protected or semi-protected? [01:47:28] Simetrical: full protected, of course. [01:47:50] Occasionally things don't get properly logged. [01:49:12] PDD may be protected the page during I was editing?! [01:51:34] there an active bug for the RC RSS feed in 1.11? [02:11:28] 03yaron * r26812 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/ (8 files): [02:11:28] If-statements for determining whether new or old initialization code should [02:11:28] be called now use a new global variable [02:13:56] 03yaron * r26813 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: Fix for #arraymap - null values no longer get mapped [02:16:10] 03yaron * r26814 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Fix for enumeration handling, form warning message now includes a link [02:19:03] 03yaron * r26815 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageEn.php: Form warning message slightly reworded, now includes a link [02:20:38] 03yaron * r26816 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Settings.php: A new (temporary) global variable - $sfgSpecialPagesSpecialInit [02:21:12] 03yaron * r26817 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version, 0.6.8 [02:41:22] 03(NEW) Sub_Category Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 15enhancement; high; MediaWiki: Categories; (fuchaoqun) [02:42:12] 03(mod) Sub_Category Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 (10fuchaoqun) [02:42:31] 03(mod) Sub_Category Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 (10fuchaoqun) [02:51:12] 03(mod) Sub-Category Ordering Counter-Intuitive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 summary; +comment (10webmaster) [02:53:44] 03(mod) Sub-Category Ordering Counter-Intuitive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 high->low (10webmaster) [02:57:38] hi all [02:58:02] starting to install mediawiki on my server for first time... [02:58:30] when I launch the config/index.php page it crashes the Safari web browser on my macbook :( [02:58:37] *TylerM starts digging for answers [02:58:54] I assume some javascript extension badness?? [03:00:02] Does any of the page render, at all? [03:00:14] Do you have php installed (properly)? [03:00:41] Try ensuring a helloworld.php page can render nicely first... [03:01:24] the "MediaWiki 1.11.0 [03:01:24] Please set up the wiki first." part shows, but once I click set up - browser crashes completely [03:01:29] checking php now, thanks [03:01:54] the included Test.php renders "1..0" that's a start, I hope :) [03:02:38] is it possible to get the content of the wiki page from the api? [03:03:38] Should be Apollo, yes. There might be other ways though, such as an HTTP GET like the bots use. [03:03:53] (i think...) [03:05:20] Is there some funky browser-side editing tool or javascript that loads during set up process? [03:05:36] i.e. something I can disable in my files so I can continue the install? [03:06:28] jamie_hari, I think it's via the prop=revisions [03:06:36] it gives you the lastest revision of an article [03:06:46] Apollo, cool. :) Good to know... [03:07:00] Some js in the install page, yes... not much iirc. [03:07:39] TylerM, I wouldn't want to 'hack' my way past any problems during an install. I'd rather see a resolution to the root cause of the problem. [03:07:45] It might come back to haunt you... [03:08:25] Thanks jamie_hari - yeah, just checking to see if there was an option I should be manually choosing [03:08:42] shoot, the data comes back with all the [[ ]] in it [03:09:07] looks like it would need to be run through the wiki parser [03:09:51] anyone got any thoughts on that? [03:10:05] or ever tried that before/run in to this? [03:13:00] ?? [03:14:51] hmmm... config loads fine in firefox... darn ;) [03:16:06] has anyone tried using the parser on revision content they got through the api? [03:16:36] or if anyone knows a lot about how the mediawiki parser works, that would also be helpful... [03:16:51] Apollo: I wish I knew :) [03:16:56] i haven't got past installation yet :) [03:18:12] no worries, I'm not much past there either xD [03:18:31] although installation of the latest version was a breeze in my case [03:21:04] i have to learn everything the hard way... ;) [03:21:20] i certainly didn't expect my browser to be the stumbling block though.. ha! [03:23:11] using safari or FF? [03:23:14] FF worked for me [03:23:19] IE also worked [03:23:29] I have issues with Safari if I run in to any JS [03:23:40] but that's probably not it :-) [03:23:48] yeah, this content is coming out with all the tags [03:23:53] bah [03:26:46] so no one here has experience with the wiki parser? [03:27:28] yeah, safari... i blame javascript whenever I can ;-) since nothing else makes sense, imo.. [03:27:45] it's not like the php interpreter is going to crash the client side :) [03:29:45] arg, so when I specified the admin user during set up it doesn't create a user account with that name/pass? [03:29:55] *TylerM confused.. it's getting late ;) [03:31:46] doh, safari died again.. hmm [03:31:50] bad day for safari [03:32:04] first no elephants or leopards, now no media or wiki ;-) [03:32:12] *TylerM takes his gun and goes home to rest :D [03:33:03] Hello everyone [03:33:23] I have a problem with my wiki installation and I need some support [03:33:52] my domain host did a stunt on me (well, on a whole bunch of users, actually) and the domain simply disappeared [03:34:36] I have since bought a new domain name (from someone else!) and I am now trying to configure my mediawiki installation [03:35:02] whi is not the most up-to-date, since until recently my host's PHP verson wasn't the latest [03:35:25] the problem is: the wiki keeps reverting to the old URL [03:35:30] and I don't know why [03:35:58] sounds painful... sorry Candeias :( [03:36:14] I've looked around in LocalSettings.php and I don't see a reason for that [03:36:31] since the full URL is not mentioned anywhere [03:37:33] I've browsed other files called from that one, from index.php and such, and I don't see the URL anywhere [03:37:50] so I ask you: what's going on? [03:37:57] Look in the source of a page and you can see the wgServer setting it's using [03:38:27] (HTML source from browser that is) [03:38:55] I can't, Aranad: the fall back to the old URL falls back to an URL that doesn't exist anymore and all I get is an error page staying that there isn't such URL [03:39:08] Try using &redirect=no [03:39:14] Is there any special markup I can use to link my personal wiki to Wikipedia or do I just use external hyperlinks as usual? [03:39:51] mboman: you can use [[Wikipedia:articlename]] [03:40:43] Hm... [03:41:01] It isn't falling back to the old URL, but now gives me a 404 error message [03:41:51] Is it a public url? [03:42:12] yes, although provisional [03:42:32] I can have a look if you like, what is it? [03:42:33] it's (or should be) at http://ficcao-online.com.pt/bibliowiki [03:44:09] see what happens? [03:44:53] it looks like it apache thats redirecting it not mediawiki - what is the long-form url eg for editing a page? [03:45:22] what do you mean? [03:45:37] Candeias: $wgServerName in LocalSettings.php [03:45:44] http://ficcao-online.com.pt/bibliowiki/wiki/index.php?title=foo&action=edit [03:45:53] (for example) [03:47:09] jamie_hari: there is no $wgServerName in my LocalSettings.php [03:47:32] I don't think it's getting to index.php - if you give me a long-form url I can check better [03:47:40] you want an actual page to go with that, yes? [03:47:55] Main_Page is fine [03:48:08] Is that anyway I can restrict editing articles to authenticated users only while still allow anonymous comments on the talk page? [03:48:44] the wiki is in portuguese [03:49:00] don't worry any page is fine - I need the url for index.php [03:49:12] try http://ficcao-online.com.pt/bibliowiki/wiki/index.php?title=Jorge_Candeias&action=edit [03:49:44] but the wiki is restricted to logged in users, so you won't be able to do any editing [03:49:49] mboman: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [03:50:34] Candeias, looks like te /bibliowiki/ virt dir might be the problem [03:51:00] try: http://ficcao-online.com.pt/bibliowiki/ [03:51:04] interesting result. [03:51:34] jamie, that's what I was talking about when I spoke of falling back [03:51:45] that's the old domain name that is no more [03:52:19] yeah, but any file served under that will be redirecting [03:52:23] Candeias: I'm pretty certain it's apache, you should contact your host if you can't access apache config [03:52:26] not much you can do until you fix that [03:53:40] have them output your directory sections in the httpd.conf for review, maybe? [03:53:52] I have no idea [03:53:54] Also, are there any .htaccess files? [03:54:56] Can you access any of you hosted files such as images etc? [03:55:14] 03(NEW) Cannot subst special page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11697 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (voyagerfan5761) [03:55:17] the 'piquenologo.gif' being served from the root isn't even displaying [03:55:26] the whole site directory structure is wrong [03:55:59] there isn't a .htacess file [03:56:20] How are you checking for the files, do you have ftp? [03:57:11] er... [03:57:14] At this point, it isn't MW related. I'd just bug your host for support (or get a new host ;) [03:57:28] it does seem to be host [03:57:43] I had access to other content in the site, but I don't anymore [03:57:48] it all gets redirected [03:57:51] A good host should be able to resolve this in <2 minutes [03:57:52] :| [03:58:07] bom suerte.. [03:58:10] It's almost 5 a.m. around here... [03:58:31] You should get some sleep and call them tomorrow ;-) [03:58:39] Still, this one is working: http://e-nigma.com.pt/ [04:02:40] OK, there's nothing I can do right now, it seems [04:02:47] thenks for your help [04:02:50] *thanks [04:03:06] de nada [05:01:08] anyone still here from when I was looking for help with the wiki parser? [05:01:19] heck, anyone here looking for some help parsing wiki markup? [05:01:38] I found a markup parser [05:01:42] stand alone [05:01:43] for PHP [05:01:49] that actually works decently [05:02:39] it was out in the backwoods of the Internet [05:03:58] http://code.blitzaffe.com/pages/phpclasses/files/wiki_parser_52-13 [05:04:01] that's the link [05:08:19] G_SabinoMullane: here? i installed MW 1.11 with postgres, and i'm getting this error on page loads: Notice: unserialize() [function.unserialize]: Error at offset 1305 of 2062 bytes in /int/docroots/mediawiki/w/includes/BagOStuff.php on line 392 [05:44:34] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Licenses/foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special: Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 (10ewenste) [05:45:26] 03(NEW) Allow &preload= and &editintro= parameters on Special: Upload - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11698 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (webmaster) [06:11:14] ugh, lqt is full of html messages, not good [06:14:57] :) [07:00:44] <_wooz> lo [07:41:28] re [07:45:28] Hi I just installed ubuntu gutsy, and after that mediawiki stoped working [07:45:45] I got the following error when accessing the pages [07:46:09] Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /var/www/wiki/includes/User.php on line 752 [07:46:41] which version? [07:46:47] Anyone know what the trouble is. I would guess wrong version [07:46:51] Of mediawiki [07:46:56] ??? [07:47:05] y [07:47:22] Just a moment - [07:48:59] 1.10.0 it seems [07:50:18] I see 1.11 is out, so this is not the newest [07:51:08] 752 : tstarling 17004 $s = $dbr->selectRow( 'user', '*', array( 'user_id' => $this->mId ), __METHOD__ ); [07:51:14] something wrong with the database [07:52:14] It may be, since I upgraded it. I did not think of that since the error message did not give a clue [07:52:33] that this my be database related. [07:53:00] It looked more that it tried to call a function that had been changed in a newer version of PHP. [07:53:34] I'll check if the database have been broken in the update. [07:55:52] The database seems to be have broken, so I should try to fix that first. [07:55:55] Thank you [07:58:25] Hello everybody, I've got a problem with the access configuration of my wiki. My Mediawiki version is 1.10.2, running on Ubuntu 6.06 [07:58:38] I wish only registered users could see and edit wiki pages (after the login), so I set $wgGroupPermissions in includes/DefaultSettings.php as Manual:FAQ says ($wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; etc..) [07:58:52] I also set $wgWhitelistEdit by specifying the pages every user can see... but with this configuration I actually can't display any pages but the "Error Page", nor the Login Page [07:59:03] How can I fix the problem? [07:59:12] Thank you for your help :) [08:09:31] I set $WhitelistRead as well, but I keep having this problem.. Anyone can help? Thank you [08:12:15] 'sup guy can some1 help me? got this error msg on my mediawiki install: http://rafb.net/p/mIjKQh59.html [08:12:46] env was sane, db install is correct.. [08:13:03] copied the localsettings.php to root folder.. [08:14:49] Would it be possible to host multiple sub-domains on a single MediaWiki installation? [08:15:35] eg: test.mydomain.com/bla -> index.php?domain:test/bla [08:18:57] Problem fixed, thank you as well :) [08:24:56] -prob fixed, dmam [09:07:41] Hi, there [09:09:40] doesn't anyone know an extension make username and userpages case-intensitive [09:09:45] ? [09:11:54] only user pages? [09:12:23] nuck: yes but not with that syntax [09:12:40] yes [09:13:16] hmm dunno [09:14:13] Thanks, I want users to be like other users in most popular sites like yahoo, gmail,... [09:15:05] I'm not aware per namespace way of doing that [09:19:32] Nikerabbit, For that I think hooks can prevent pages to be created with different cases and can help in navigating them too. But I was looking for a ready extension [09:19:46] 03(NEW) Protection log entry on Recent Changes doesn't have links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11699 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (harryboyles) [09:19:49] I thought it might have existed. [09:20:15] I think, this can exist but you know better :) [09:21:03] only glue I have that some ldap extension might allow them [09:23:32] thanks, Nikerabbit, Is there a way in mediawiki to show dates in other system. Other calendar I mean. I mean by writting an extension [09:23:55] Soroush83: date format is language setting [09:24:23] you can't change the calendar though [09:24:35] that would be difficult, i suspect php doesn't support it either :) [09:25:00] not only date format. I want it to get the dated is going to be written and write another thing in the place f it [09:25:31] flyingparchment, I know php doesn't support but most of weblogs have it [09:25:40] now I didn't understand [09:26:02] and there are some templates in fa.wikipedia can convert those dates [09:26:57] I don't want to change what mediawiki does for saving and reading dates [09:27:07] date math is difficult, but I don't think hacking different calendar system would be impossible [09:27:12] I just want to change the display mode [09:28:14] the current system is quite flexible [09:29:51] 03(FIXED) semi-protect Image: namespace on pt.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11658 +comment (10jeluf) [09:29:52] sorry, it disconnected me for a sec. I wish there was a function for it in mediawiki which just run a hook and if that hook wasn't triggered it was just an alias for normal dates [09:29:59] Soroush83: you only need to add new format specifier if it doesn't exists and change the date format [09:30:49] Nikerabbit, it is in languages/messages/messageXX.php [09:30:52] not? [09:31:30] Nikerabbit - could you explain how to do the redirection/whatever? [09:31:44] date code is in languages/Language.php and format for English is in languages/messages/MessageEn.php [09:32:32] nuck: just define the sub domains to use same code base and modify LocalSettings to use correct settings per subdomain [09:32:56] Nikerabbit, thanks. I hope it'll work. It'll be a great happiness for me. :) [09:33:25] I have a question about restriction of page editing [09:33:30] Soroush83: it depends, I didn't yet fully understand what you want [09:33:45] Nikerabbit: "correct settings"? [09:33:53] k3hrn-thom: and help page didn't answer your question? [09:34:06] nuck: yeah, like different sitename, different database etc [09:34:35] no....maybe I can't do this...I want to restrict editing to only the person that created the page and sysops [09:34:51] k3hrn-thom: I see [09:35:04] sysops is easy, only for creator is harder [09:35:10] I haven't seen extension for it yet [09:35:28] OK...then we need to tell folks to protect all of their pages [09:35:31] 03(mod) semi-protect Image: namespace on pt.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11658 (10waldir) [09:36:50] k3hrn-thom: or get someone write suitable extension, should not be too hard [09:37:07] Nikerabbit, I'll show it to you now [09:37:25] btw, ns for template ?? [09:37:49] 10 [09:38:12] Once I learn more I will ask about it. If I might also ask about login...is there an extension that forces a user to answer a question to gain access...I think there's one in use on the mediawiki wiki [09:38:14] Nikerabbit: oh - you mean have different LocalSettings for each subdomain, but $IP would point to the same place or something? [09:38:55] nuck: for example, it depends how you want to do it [09:39:26] k3hrn-thom: you mean the robot-test? [09:39:43] Ah...yes, that's probably what I am thinking of [09:40:26] k3hrn-thom: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [09:44:04] thanks....I'll have to find the older version since I'm running php4 [09:44:23] too bad [09:44:35] Nikerabbit: I'm trying to build a wiki for TransitCamp.org (barcamp for public transit). What I want is to have www.(or wiki.)transitcamp.org as a primary site which will coordinate the different groups and make it possible for users to create a new group within the wiki, but for it to be referred to as "london.transitcamp.org" (for example) [09:45:37] Nikerabbit:I looked at /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php?revision=26687&view=markup right now. It's not what I want [09:46:17] the template which prefixindex is http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Prefixindex&namespace=10&from=%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%84%DB%8C&Prefixindex [09:46:21] Nikerabbit: I'm working on an extension which provides a form (special page) to provide a group name & location etc, then my code should generate a subdomain, stubs & templates etc [09:46:28] is the thing I meant [09:46:46] nuck: ok [09:47:11] there should be a function to convert those dates. just a function of 30 lines in php can do that conversion [09:47:26] Soroush83: can you give an example? [09:47:51] Nikerabbit: template files will also be shared, so I think they'll have to share the same database [09:48:09] nuck: that's hard [09:48:12] Nikerabbit, it is October18th now in 2007 [09:48:22] Soroush83: yep [09:48:32] but it is Mehr26th in 1386 now [09:48:46] hi does anybody know how to change the style of the toolbox!? [09:48:57] Nikerabbit, the official calendar is this here [09:49:08] moonlight, css [09:49:21] yeah but which tag!? [09:49:25] moonlight, go to mediawiki:monobook.css [09:49:29] there is no possition called toolbox [09:49:34] or p-toolbox [09:49:41] Soroush83: so why wouldn't adding e.g xa (month in X calendar), xb (day in X calendar) etc work? [09:50:43] brb [09:50:59] Nikerabbit: I was thinking I'd have to intercept each request, and "if( $subdomain != 'wiki' ) { preg_replace( '/index\?/', "index\?domain:$subdomain", $url ); }" [09:51:27] mediawiki:monobook.css is empty [09:51:35] moonlight:
[09:51:48] i can't find it in main.css [09:52:02] and monobook.css i won't find the complete file :-( [09:52:23] it's not file, it's a page [09:52:44] that page is blank [09:52:55] --> /* CSS placed here will affect users of the Monobook skin */ [09:53:05] that's all.... [09:53:14] yes [09:53:20] you should add customization there [09:53:34] well i added everything in main.css [09:54:06] there is also a class called portlet...but no p-tb [09:54:19] p-tb is id [09:55:05] but the id p-search exists in main.css just as an example...so i don't understand why p-tb doesn't exist... [09:55:31] why should it be there? [09:55:37] like navigation is also in class portlet but still the two boxes look diffrent [09:55:48] to change the css settings [09:56:03] Nikerabbit: trouble with that approach is that I'd have to hack all code that dealt with links, creation of articles etc [09:56:09] they look same to me [09:56:28] oh no i'm talking about my own wiki [09:56:38] based on mediawiki [09:56:49] ... [09:57:06] and there i changed style via man.scc and monobook.php [09:57:09] main.css contains some styles for monobook, it does not need to style every element [09:57:34] do you know where i can change the style of the toolbox... [09:57:35] Is it possible to ditch the "index.php?" bit and just have "wiki.domain.com/MainPage" [09:57:51] nuck: prefably in subdir [09:58:05] moonlight: you must add your own styles if it doesn't have any [09:59:16] nuck: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [09:59:41] ah - I was just about to say, Wikipedia uses short urls... [10:00:40] yeah i already tried that...but i don't understand why if i change the id from p-tb to p-navigation why then the styles aren't the same because the navigation box has class=portlet and id=p-navigation...so i thought maybe some other file is responsible for the tollbox...or that maybe the fact that the toolbox is managed via hooks because of the diffrent links depending on which page iam... [10:00:40] thanks [10:00:57] 03raymond * r26818 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: * (bug 11667) ConfirmAccount extension : french localization update [10:01:14] 03(FIXED) ConfirmAccount extension : french localization update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11667 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:01:47] Nikerabbit, sorry. I'm back now. and where can I define calendar X [10:01:55] moonlight: monobook uses multiple css files, you *really* should add customizations to mediawiki.monobook.css or mediawiki.common.css [10:02:11] Soroush81: what calendar system are you talkking about? [10:02:33] ok so i add to monobook.css --> #p-tb [10:02:35] ? [10:02:44] Nickerabbit, now I'm talking about Persian calendar [10:03:19] Nikerabbit, it is used officially in Iran, not sure in Afghanistan and used and known for [10:03:29] some other neighbour countries [10:04:28] Nikerabbit, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_calendar, this is that [10:05:57] where does parse date formats in mediawiki? [10:06:40] 03rotem * r26819 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/InputBox.i18n.php: Fix. [10:06:42] is the conversion from "our" calender hard? [10:07:14] Nikerabbit, no. Just about 30 lines of programs in C++, pascal, php or... [10:07:45] it doesn't work...dunno what to do anymore :-( [10:07:46] program programs [10:09:00] in theory we could add support for it [10:09:23] Nikerabbit, I know, it will become late. [10:09:32] what do you mean? [10:09:44] Nikerabbit, how can I help you to do that [10:09:45] ? [10:09:54] will become late? [10:09:54] writing extension or... [10:10:44] I mean it might take long time. because just fa.wiki and probably a few other wikis will want it [10:11:08] like az, glk, mzn, ku, ps, tg, [10:11:18] if they really need it, it should be done, in my opinion [10:11:33] and they are all smaller than fa.wiki [10:11:49] Nikerabbit, I appreciate your opinion :) [10:12:57] Soroush81: is there example code of the conversion? [10:14:59] Nikerabbit, FYI, Arabs use another calendar ,too. But its conversion is much difficult because it is not solar [10:15:52] and length of months change in different years. It depends on moon not sun [10:16:12] as I said, date math is hard [10:17:19] Nikerabbit, for conversion to Persian calendar you just need to have a base for the first day [10:17:47] hmm http://fi.php.net/calendar [10:19:12] sucky help [10:19:23] and find the first year related to it and after that just \ and / and some summations to get the correct date [10:19:29] I'm reading it now [10:20:13] assuming we have the conversion code, I'm trying to figure out how to do the formatting in best way [10:20:37] Nikerabbit, Persian calendar is not in them however it is needed for all the web not wikipedia [10:21:07] it has been the official calendar for centuries in Iran(has over 70,000,000 population now) [10:21:43] it was nicer if it was added to php rather thanjust mediawiki [10:21:58] well, speak to the php people [10:22:00] submit a bug, etc [10:22:15] Werdna, Where can I do that? [10:22:28] I'm asking them now [10:22:41] www.php.net [10:22:55] no. their bugzilla [10:23:01] I'm not that interested in php, it has poor libraries [10:23:32] but I am willing to add support to mediawiki if I can think how [10:24:03] Nikerabbit, that's nice too. because there are such these bugs in other softwares too [10:24:17] can't be said bug [10:24:22] but lack of support [10:27:09] Nikerabbit, I think it will be nice if it is just added in one format. however the name of monthes should be system message becuase they are different in languages [10:28:11] Nikerabbit, Can you help me if I send you the correct conversion algorithm? [10:28:17] maybe [10:43:11] thanks. I'll ask to get sure about correct algorithm ,Nikerabbit [10:43:16] Have good time [10:43:44] I should go now. See you later [10:44:46] hey, how do I get the history of an article? [10:44:55] I want to find out who did any edits on an article [10:45:16] in PHP, I mean [10:45:50] you need to query the database [10:46:13] that's pretty clear [10:46:23] do I need to create a PageHistory object for the article? [10:46:40] because the functions in Article themself don't seem enough for me [10:46:42] dunno, there should already be code which fetches all contributors to the article [10:53:41] PageArchive seems to be what I'm looking for [11:06:24] interesting: http://www.cofundos.org/ [11:11:34] Duesentrieb: yes. nice project. [11:13:13] but... didin't amazon trysomething like that, and failed completely? [11:14:28] never heard of. [11:14:57] Duesentrieb: if i have a bid for changing the mw api, i have to open a ticket for it right? [11:16:06] what, here or there? [11:16:46] hehe. erm. i am confused. [11:20:40] hello all [11:21:16] i would like to setup ldap auth on my machine, but i dont find the file LdapAuthentication.php [11:21:36] i use mediawiki 1.7 and debian etch [11:22:06] Duesentrieb: project support is getting there on devanywhere [11:22:10] just a bit more! [11:22:59] phimic: it's an extension. install it [11:23:00] !extensions [11:23:00] MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for details on writing an extension and for an overview of known extensions. [11:24:19] Duesentrieb: thank you [11:24:34] *Werdna tickles Duesentrieb [11:30:27] Werdna: how about integrating devanywhere with (something like) cofundos.org? jjst a thought :) [11:30:49] Duesentrieb: how so? [11:31:31] Werdna: let people place bids for features to implement [11:32:00] Werdna: it's... not really in scope. i'm just randomly mashing ideas together :) [11:32:13] hmm.. do I really want to go much further down the 'sourceforge' route? [11:32:32] i don't know :) [11:32:43] once projects are done properly, I'm going to focus on making it commercial and mainstream [11:32:56] my aim is to be bought by google for several million dollars. [11:33:03] hey, if I do http://rafb.net/p/U95qfp88.html I get dozens of results, but if I do http://rafb.net/p/cE5LgQ68.html I only get a single result... how come? [11:33:07] cost is increased by having an actual business model [11:33:14] cost is increased by having a fuckload of users. [11:33:21] Werdna: you need pretty pictures [11:33:25] therefore, those are my two sole pursuits. [11:33:52] writely got ~10m, last.fm got ~180m [11:34:23] difference: last.fm had some damn good algorithms, but more importantly, an actual business plan [11:34:35] whereas writely was like "yeah, let's get bought by google and that will pay all our bills" [11:34:47] good algorithmes? really? anything specific know anout that? [11:35:03] yeah, they had algorithms for determining similar music likes [11:35:30] well, that's basic clustering, probably based on something similar to gVSM [11:36:37] basically, myquestion is: did thy jjst apply the known stuff from the knowledge management / text mining field to music, or did they really invent something revolutzionary? [11:41:50] not sure [11:43:09] On 30 May 2007, CBS Interactive acquired Last.fm for £140m (US$280m), the largest European Web 2.0 purchase to date. [11:43:58] anyway, I would kill for it to be bought for that much, so I'm working very hard on it [11:44:13] :) [11:44:36] I need to figure out how to get word out about it. [11:44:47] and how to make it something people use as a matter of course. [11:44:51] and how to make money out of it [11:46:20] re [11:46:44] join #swig [11:46:52] damn [11:52:14] siebrand: ping [12:10:07] 03(mod) Not showing all requested counts of contributions since the oldest contributes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11601 (10Soroush83) [12:10:22] does someone here use LdapAuthentication [12:13:08] Somebody might. [12:13:18] any reason for that question? [12:14:50] uga [12:14:58] hello [12:18:58] Werdna: i have problems to configure it [12:19:32] If I want to implement MD5:
and SHA1:
, how would I go about doing that? [12:20:11] I'm having truoble with attachments. I'd like to attach Word documents to my page. I've loaded them, so they appear at /index.php/Special:Imagelist . What do I put in the page though? [[Image:FILENAME]] sometimes seems to work, and not other times. Anyway, it's not an image.... [12:20:42] nick_fn, [[:Image:FILENAME]] [12:21:01] With a leading : ? I'll try it. [12:24:18] hey, if I do http://rafb.net/p/U95qfp88.html I get dozens of results, but if I do http://rafb.net/p/cE5LgQ68.html I only get a single result... how come? [12:34:22] 03raymond * r26820 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [12:34:22] * (bug 11649) Show input form when Special:Whatlinkshere has no parameters [12:34:22] * Make Special:Whatlinkshere visible to Special:SpecialPages [12:34:22] * Move 2 messages in language (maintenance) files to a more generic place as they are no longer used by Special:Whatlinkshere but by other special pages furthermore [12:34:22] * Kill whitespaces [12:37:19] 03(FIXED) Prompt for target page when Special: Whatlinkshere has no parameters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11649 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:37:26] Raymond_: yay [12:37:34] :) [12:46:40] [www.computer-engineering.org PS2 protocol] -- this link is nt working. maybe because of the '-'. is there a workaround? [12:47:12] SF7: no, because it's not a url [12:47:16] it's missing the http:// [12:47:23] ach thx [13:14:30] Bonjour [13:15:16] Je cherche des infos pour savoir comment restreindre l'accès au mediawiki. quelqu'un sais m'aider? [13:15:46] I search some information to allow only wiki access to registred users. someone can help me? [13:16:59] !accecss | Tempusus [13:17:07] ughn [13:17:10] !access | Tempusus [13:17:10] Tempusus : For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [13:17:11] ? [13:17:17] sorry, typo :) [13:17:23] oki [13:17:25] tks [13:17:51] @search .*faq.* [13:17:51] Results: [faq, invalidupload, welcome] [13:17:57] hm [13:18:14] is the access right easy to do? [13:18:19] yes [13:18:47] if you want some pages accessible, but not others, that's not quite so easy, but not very hard either, using the appropriate extension [13:19:09] Tempusus: however... [13:19:10] I have put a private wiki for my team [13:19:10] !cms [13:19:10] You are advised to install an appropriate content management package for per-page read restrictions. We will not be held responsible should a password or bank details be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job due to borked hacks. See if you really want too. [13:19:34] but anonymous access are allowed and I don't want that [13:20:14] yea, well, mind obove notice, read the preventing access stuff, adjust user rights, and install the appropriate extension if desired. [13:20:30] ok [13:30:37] Hi, can anyone please help me! I installed Mediawiki 1.10 on OpenSuse. I configured everything and it worked. After I successfully installed PageProtect, I can no longer log in. This means I get the Login screen but after putting in my user name and password, I get a blank page. [13:31:13] This even applied after I deactivated PageProtect and even after removing and reinstalling Mediawiki including the database. [13:31:30] Impossible (tm) [13:31:35] Something Else Changed (tm) [13:31:50] I do NOT get any error messages, neither in my browser nor in the Apache error log. [13:32:11] So can anyone please give me a hint, where to start searching for the error? [13:33:05] Caldrin: blank pages generally indicate fatal php errors (with public error reporting turned off). Though those should be logged to apaches error log (of using mod_php - not sure about cgi mode). check what php.ini sais about error logging/reporting [13:33:21] Duesentrieb: Of course. I installed a number of packets like php5-gmp, php5-mcrypt and such. But uninstalling them doesn't help either. [13:33:24] also, you can try to enable error reporting in your LocalSettings.php: [13:33:25] error_reporting(E_ALL); [13:33:25] ini_set("display_errors", 1); [13:33:45] if that doesn't give you any hint either, i'm out of ideas. [13:36:05] 03(FIXED) SMW_DV_GeoCoords.php doesn't allow character entity references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11678 +comment (10mak) [13:36:31] 03mkroetzsch * r26821 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_GeoCoords.php: Fixed bug 11678 [13:39:33] Hey, how can I get the raw content of the article from mediawiki without some browser? If I go to address http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Football&action=raw with my browser, I get the raw content. If I wget the forementioned address, it gives me the code of the whole site. :S Any hints? [13:39:59] Duesentrieb: No, doesn't show any errors. [13:41:02] Caldrin: and you see the wiki ok if you donÄt try to log in? [13:41:17] Seems I need to take the last step of 3R administration. Retry, reboot, reinstall. Damned. [13:41:31] Yeah, it looks as expected if I'm not logged in. [13:41:50] I thought of a problem with my Ldap loging. [13:42:09] o_O [13:42:28] Ldap loging? [13:42:34] 03(ASSIGNED) Geographic coordinate requires degree symbol, other compact format issues - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11679 +comment (10mak) [13:42:37] have you tried this is a plain vanially install? [13:42:42] then ther eshould be no ldap involved. [13:42:57] (gah, my typing sucks bad) [13:43:09] (reading what i typed gives me headaches) [13:43:14] Buts its the same php file I use on the machine I'm trying to migrate from, Ldap can be reached and no LDAP errors in any log files. [13:43:31] LDAP login was supposed to be Ldap authentication. I'm only using this. [13:45:25] Ok, really seems to be LDAP releated. I tried without LDAP and it works. [13:54:58] How can I download the damned raw content of an article? [13:55:56] action=raw [13:55:59] Erkkimon_: index.php?action=raw&title=pagename [13:56:26] damned raw content? [13:56:51] i guess i've seen a few templates from hell... [14:01:17] VasilievVV: The problem is that I can't get the content with wget or stuff like that so that I could manage the file with a script. [14:01:37] VasilievVV: If I wget the file, I get the whole fucking page. [14:01:45] VasilievVV: Not the content. [14:01:59] Erkkimon_: try using fucking action=raw like you were fucking told :) [14:02:15] brion-office: I have fucking tried it. :D [14:02:23] can you show us an example url? [14:02:29] so we can see what you're getting? [14:02:50] 16:26 < Erkkimon_> Hey, how can I get the raw content of the article from mediawiki without some browser? If I go to address [14:02:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Football&action=raw with my browser, I get the raw content. If I wget the forementioned address, it gives me the code of the whole site. [14:03:21] Erkkimon_: works for me [14:03:22] Erkkimon_: sounds like you forgot to quote your command line, dude :) [14:03:42] & and ? mean special things to the shell [14:04:53] wouldn't be the first time i've messed up wget that way :) [14:05:29] http://pastey.net/75481-yyur [14:08:23] If I wget it, the file starts like: [14:08:26] Erkkimon_: show you *exact* command line [14:09:09] *your [14:09:13] And if I take it via my browser, I get the wikitext... :O [14:09:15] confirm it's properly quoted [14:09:22] K. [14:11:09] http://pastebin.com/d2eb8f6f1 [14:11:54] Argh, wrong wget this time. [14:12:23] looks like missing quotes [14:12:28] so the & ends your command line [14:12:35] so the &action=raw isn't included [14:12:43] Yeah, but it was in my first wget. [14:12:50] Hmm? [14:13:37] show me the command line [14:14:04] Hmm, now it worked. [14:14:42] http://pastebin.com/m38ef0c27 [14:15:06] whee :) [14:15:33] brion-office: Thanks, buddy. I never would have made up that there should be quotes in the beginning and the end of the address, coz I have never needed to use them. [14:19:00] that's the wonder of URLs :P [14:21:22] api guys around? [14:22:05] brion-office: could Javascript Standard Library be added or included? [14:22:15] 03brion * r26822 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/namespaceDupes.php): [14:22:15] * Initial-lowercase prefix checks in namespaceDupes.php now actually work. [14:22:15] Not sure how that array_values() snuck in, kind of embarassing. :P [14:22:41] hehe [14:22:49] brion-office: feel ashamed [14:25:33] 03(FIXED) Create "Appendix" namespace to fi-wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11672 +comment (10brion) [14:27:02] 03(mod) "Persistent" login expires many times within a single session - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1396 (10brion) [14:28:17] AzaTht: don't know nothin' bout no libraries [14:29:03] hmm [14:29:52] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Licenses/foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special: Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 (10brion) [14:29:57] brion-office: I'm using it in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AzaToth/morebits.js to solve problems with some browsers [14:30:04] the top part of that file [14:30:46] 14(DUP) Sub-Category Ordering Counter-Intuitive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11696 +comment (10brion) [14:30:50] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 +comment (10brion) [14:31:15] 03(mod) On paged categories, article totals and subcat totals are incorrect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1212 (10greg) [14:33:02] brion-office: we need something like BlockTitles extension on Wikimedia [14:33:31] i'll put it on my list [14:35:13] brion-office: see http://www.devpro.it/JSL/ [14:35:52] hi everyone [14:36:12] how can i set the debugging level higher in mediawiki? [14:36:32] i'd like it to show the SQL error that it throws [14:36:39] is anyone familiar with the /maintenance/CleanupSkin.php script? i'd like to change it so i can change the skin for certain users (instead of ALL users) [14:36:42] i just see: -> from within function "User::addToDatabase". MySQL returned error "1048: Column 'user_id' cannot be null (localhost)". [14:37:34] mick_work: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_debug_MediaWiki [14:37:51] HotMonkeyAC: awesome - thanks [14:37:56] np [14:38:36] I am sure this is easy, but I can't find how to link to a category. A new category gets added to the page instead, which is not what I want. [14:38:58] [[:Category:Foo]] [14:39:01] [[:Category:Whatever]] [14:39:04] hehe [14:39:11] oh with the : [14:39:13] I forgot about it [14:39:32] you guys are so smart [14:40:59] 04(REOPENED) Provide extension for title blacklisting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11622 +comment (10vasilvv) [14:48:45] Is it possible to set another encoding but default by a user? [14:56:02] 03brion * r26823 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (9 files): [14:56:02] Revert r26670 [LiquidThreads-related patches] for now: [14:56:02] * Adds five undocumented hooks [14:56:02] * Unclear purpose for change to SpecialPage [14:56:02] * Big search-and-replace in EditPage for title usage which seems to still leave things inconsistent; a bit confused what all that's mean to be doing. [14:56:22] anyone use the folksonomy extension? i'd like to have categories indexed (search doesn't actually work as expected) [14:57:04] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Licenses/foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special: Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 (10N/A) [14:57:10] 03(ASSIGNED) unescaped page name makes smw_notitle error confusing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11666 +comment (10mak) [14:57:29] tags only work if they are searchable ;) [15:00:07] 03brion * r26824 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Cleanup for r26690: don't add new accesskeys without dire need. We already have too many keyboard conflicts, and don't need to invent new ones for the default button in a form. [15:04:35] :( I'm trying to get URL rewriting to work and not having luck [15:05:51] oh I think I was using the wrong method, nevermind [15:07:14] misty_wrk: I have to use that a lot, rewrite rules in Apache and such... let me know if you need help [15:07:43] well, I think I do. LOL [15:08:05] I want to use this method http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [15:08:07] 03brion * r26825 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: [15:08:07] Cleanup r26692: [15:08:07] * Use content language, not UI language, when adding language suffix to OpenSearch description [15:08:07] * Use $wgContLang->getLanguageName() instead of grabbing a whole array of every name ever :) [15:08:07] * If there isn't a defined language name for this code, don't spew a PHP notice and output "()". Use the language code instead, so non-standard and as-yet-unused languages won't break. [15:08:18] But I prefer to have the .htaccess in /wiki, not in / like it says [15:10:20] Does it matter? [15:12:13] nevermind I think I got it ! [15:12:50] yes :) [15:13:26] brion-office: was it an good or bad idea you think? [15:13:34] hm? [15:13:35] what idea [15:13:39] JSL [15:13:43] *brion-office is multitasking and swapping :D [15:13:47] hehe [15:14:05] don't know if it is or not, haven't had chance to look into it [15:14:13] oki [15:14:19] http://www.devpro.it/JSL/ [15:14:39] thanks for the url, but i'm still not going to get round to it for a while :) [15:14:46] :( [15:15:06] yes! i guessed an ubuntu dev package name correctly [15:15:09] libbz2-dev :P [15:15:20] can you then take a look at 5678? ツ [15:15:27] *AzaTht ducks [15:16:02] funny man :) [15:16:24] I want that fucking bug fixed [15:16:29] :( [15:18:08] mediawiki has fucking functionality? [15:18:17] lol [15:18:19] brion-office: I think most people feels that bugs symptom is a random compiler bug [15:18:55] NotACow: bug != functionallity [15:19:26] ugah [15:19:42] brion-office: add a swapfile, it will help ;) [15:19:43] AzaTht: you seem slightly annoyed. [15:19:43] Werdna: get your ass up [15:19:57] NotACow: a bit [15:20:11] AzaTht: why? [15:20:25] AzaTht: btw, all bugs are just misunderstood functionality [15:20:33] NotACow: not that bug [15:20:55] AzaTht: don't challenge my axioms, dude [15:21:19] theere cannot be any functinallity to move arbitary paramters from one space to another [15:21:22] oh, this bug [15:21:47] bah, if you people would stop trying to reimplement gcc in mediawiki markup, this wouldn't matter. [15:21:49] NotACow: the bug pissing most people off [15:22:01] NotACow: no [15:22:08] most? it only has six votes. [15:22:11] the problem arises when trying to warn people [15:22:18] AzaTht: stop warning people. [15:22:24] NotACow: most "usual" people [15:23:01] so this horrific bug is making life difficult for wikipedia's jackbooted thugs? [15:23:07] please, don't fix it. EVER! [15:26:45] NotACow: it'sn ot only for that, that was just an example [15:27:19] lets say the bug nicely destroys the subst: functinallity [15:30:32] question...if there's a function that says "$result = $dbr->select( 'user', array( 'user_id' ), array(), __FILE__ ) ;" that basically goes through every user (based on userid), how can i change this to hit just a certain user? [15:31:14] actually, nevermind [15:33:16] 03brion * r26826 10/trunk/extensions/DeletedContributions/DeletedContributions_body.php: [15:33:16] Cleanup for r26711: [15:33:16] * Fix escaping of title in diff link [15:33:16] * Fix timestamp formatting for diff link [15:33:16] * Clean up some formatting of long makeLinkObj() lines [15:33:17] * Make more consistent use of getPrefixedUrl() vs urlencode(getPrefixedText()) [15:55:53] 03brion * r26827 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/LinkBatch.php): [15:55:53] * Fix regression in LinkBatch.php breaking PHP 5.0 [15:55:53] PHP 5.0.5 is unhappy about current(array_keys($dbkeys)), since current() is [15:55:53] one of those magic things that uses the pointer in an array. [15:55:53] Probably key($dbkeys) would do the job instead, but I rather dislike all those [15:55:54] funcs. :) Grabbing a temporary var in array_keys() instead for cleanliness. [15:58:38] 03brion * r26828 10/branches/REL1_11/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/LinkBatch.php): Merge r26827 from trunk: fix regression in PHP 5.0.5 [15:59:13] hello, where I can find more info about how mediawiki deal with the versions ? [15:59:57] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Licenses/foo sometimes ignored when viewing Special: Upload&uselang=foo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11695 (10brion) [16:18:09] I'm trying to have certain links open within the wiki page, kind of like an iframe. Any suggestions on how to do that? [16:21:55] sw3-ops: use an extension that allowes you to embed an iframe. [16:24:16] trying that now [16:29:10] Duesentrieb, do you know if there is a way to add targets to links in mediawiki? [16:41:08] 03(NEW) Edit tab on cascade protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11700 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (nwwaew) [16:42:22] sw3-ops: adding targets to links breaks compatible with xhtml standards. I suppose you could use instead of the standard syntax to create the link, though. [16:43:42] You cannot use the element without enabling raw HTML which is not reccomended. [16:44:04] There is no way to add targets to links by default, i.e. without extensions. [16:44:09] raw HTML? ewww [16:44:16] and hi MinuteElectron :) [16:44:20] hello [16:45:23] 03(mod) Edit tab on cascade protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11700 (10nwwaew) [16:48:57] Is there a way to make an image use precisely 100 % of a table cell? [16:49:26] Nope. [16:49:49] anyone know if theres a way to force the change of a skin for a user? [16:49:59] That's bad. [16:50:00] i know there's cleanupskin.php, but that's for ALL users [16:50:17] acook: Modify the database, though not reccomended. [16:50:18] CSS, JavaScript? [16:50:32] rejbrand: Maybe with JavaScript, but difficult to say the least. [16:50:47] isn't it stored as bianary? [16:50:52] acook: no [16:51:10] Is it possible to give an image an ID? [16:51:12] where does it reside then? [16:51:13] you can modify binary database cells anyway as they are just text BLOBS [16:51:21] it resides in the database [16:51:32] rejbrand: every image has an id in the database already. [16:51:53] I meant a HTML ID element to use with GetElementById. [16:52:15] By hacking the parser, yes. [16:52:25] Well, I cannot do that. [16:52:42] i'm assuming it's under user_options? [16:53:23] acook: yep [16:53:40] is there a built-in blob editior? [16:53:56] no [16:53:57] or a way to view maybe in phpmyadmin [16:54:21] but in phpmyadmin i believe you can set it so you can copy out the blob then edit it and re add it. [16:54:59] ok, i'll look into it [16:55:54] ok... question... does mediawiki have identical features to wikipedia? [16:56:07] it can [16:56:44] BYTE-Smasher: MediaWiki is the software that runs Wikipedia, although Wikipedia has a variety of extensions to the MediaWiki core. [16:57:28] And also a heavily modified configuration file. [16:58:22] well I mainly am concerned about those related articles/categories block that show at the bottom of certain wikipedia articles ... like music genre ones [16:58:55] is that an extension or can MediaWiki do that with a default config? [16:59:00] MinuteElectron: it's not heavily loaded. It's complicated, heavily modified structure of files [16:59:01] Ahh, they are templates. You can create them within any wiki, but often they have extra things that are added by extensions. Basic ones can be done by yourself however. [16:59:19] so they're manually done [16:59:24] gah [16:59:25] VasilievVV: Where did I say anything aboy something being heavily loaded? [16:59:28] BYTE-Smasher: yep [16:59:32] that's horrible [16:59:34] :p [16:59:41] *about [16:59:56] I figured there was some nice thing inside wikipedia that generated them [16:59:59] MinuteElectron: oops.. not loaded, modified [17:00:19] VasilievVV: You just said that I said what I said then... [17:00:50] 'cause there's like ..... {{Industrial music-footer}} [17:00:58] where would that be edited? [17:01:08] That would be located in the page Template:Industrial music-footer [17:01:09] Template:Industrial_music-footer [17:01:18] oic [17:01:58] nice [17:01:59] VasilievVV: I don't get what is different from what I said compared to what you wrote. You have just extrapolated further. [17:02:05] this is decent enough [17:02:09] :) [17:02:10] thanks guys [17:02:12] np [17:02:29] Any one ever get Input/Output errors with ntfs share drive partitions? [17:02:36] *BYTE-Smasher was GOING to use dokuwiki but he's changed his mind now [17:02:38] MinuteElectron: yes. You can't imageine how big are those files [17:02:40] XD [17:02:44] sorry, wrong chan :) [17:02:54] VasilievVV: Yes, I have seen the files. [17:02:55] sw3-ops: you must answer 3 user questions in pennance [17:03:00] hehe [17:03:11] flyingparchment, i'm full of questions myself! [17:05:43] MinuteElectron: re the raw html, I thought it was 'eww' too, as well as links with targets :) [17:05:54] :) [17:06:10] people know how to open the link in a new window, they're not stupid [17:06:25] I have to go bbl. [17:06:32] O_O [17:06:43] maybe he doesn't know how to open the links in a new window :/ hehe [17:14:20] ialex: pong! [17:14:59] siebrand: there is some lag ^^ [17:15:10] ialex: just got home... [17:16:07] ialex: but a 5h22m roundtrip isn't bad, is it? ;) [17:16:08] is it possible to get an output of the current username showing an article? [17:16:37] manuel_ What do you mean? [17:16:49] a variable which contains the current username [17:17:08] siebrand: it was about http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation_statistics you copied from meta, but i couldn't import it, so no promblem :) [17:17:21] manuel_: {{CURRENTUSER}} [17:17:27] oh.. ok ;) [17:17:30] thank you [17:18:05] ialex: ah. Are you working on the import of MediaWiki documentation form Meta? The number of pages waiting for import appears so high, that I thought nothing was being done on it... [17:18:20] eyaluth: mh, links to a template which doesn't exists [17:18:46] manuel_: i think it doesn't exist [17:19:08] http://wikiindex.org uses it [17:19:08] ialex: and how do i get an output of the current user? [17:19:57] siebrand: it's better to import a page with Special:Import to keep the history [17:20:36] ialex: *nod* but I'm not a sysop on mw: :) [17:20:58] siebrand: ask to be sysop ^^ [17:21:21] ialex: NO! ;) That would mean even more resonsibility... I'm trying to cut down on it... ) [17:21:22] manuel_: in wikitext ? [17:21:30] yes [17:22:04] siebrand: being a MediaWiki.org sysop allows you to import pages and generally be a mean, abusive rouge admin - consider it :p [17:22:25] Jack_Phoenix: hmm, tempting. I like that! [17:22:27] and - of course - deleting junk pages on sight ;-) [17:23:11] Jack_Phoenix: you are Sayuri on mw.org ? [17:23:17] yep [17:24:03] time to figure out iframes! [17:26:00] about mw.org, i was wondering if it would be reasonable to include talk namespaces into default search.. many times when people are troubleshooting, the answers could actually be in talk pages, not in actual pages.. [17:28:25] what's Rob Church's nick name? [17:28:51] where? on MediaWiki.org? [17:29:15] Jack_Phoenix: here [17:29:20] robchurch I think [17:29:27] yeah, guess so [17:29:34] hi Jack, ltns in #oracle [17:29:43] misty_wrk: ah, then he's just not ben around for a while, or while I was looking. Thanks. [17:29:51] siebrand: dunno if he uses IRC [17:30:04] you might want to talk him [17:30:20] misty_wrk: I think he does. At least, I think I remember seeing him here. [17:31:32] i want to match a that has both 'ns-0' and 'page-Main_Page' classes. how can i write a CSS selector that will do this? [17:32:37] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MultipleClasses [17:32:54] flyingparchment: why do you need ns-0 if you want page-Main_Page ? [17:33:32] you want .ns-0.page-Main_Page { } [17:33:33] hm.. i was going to say, so it doesn't match diff or history pages, but i guess those have ns-0 too, so that won't work [17:33:41] \check for browser compatibility if you use it [17:38:34] 03(mod) Edit tab on cascade protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11700 +comment (10robchur) [18:20:00] ok, I did the URL rewrite thing, to get pretty URLs. It works great for viewing articles but does not work at all for editing. I get "The page does not exist" etc. Any ideas? [18:21:02] what method did you use? [18:21:24] 03(NEW) document $wgSpamRegex matches body, not just line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11701 trivial; lowest; MediaWiki: Documentation; (jidanni) [18:27:25] I tried this one http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [18:27:41] now I am trying this one http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Both_no_root_and_root_access [18:27:48] I do have root access [18:29:45] wow that method didn't work at all, now /wiki is redirecting to / [18:30:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access worked perfectly for me with one small tweak [18:31:10] where is the wiki installed currently? and what do the URLs look like? [18:34:45] It's installed in /var/lib/mediawiki-$version [18:35:01] and has an apache.conf that gets pulled into apache, in ubuntu-style, aliasing it to /wiki [18:36:13] I'm restoring LocalSettings.php to before I started mucking with it, then I'll show you what the URLs look like [18:36:19] okay [18:37:22] there should be a feature like wordpress where it will write the .htaccess for you, assuming ith as permission to do so, or tell you what to paste into .htaccess [18:37:51] I do have to agree with you on that, though I've never used wordpress myself...but the idea definitely sounds cool :) [18:38:38] there is a page where you choose your URL style or make one up using some variables, then it tells you what the .htaccess has to say [18:38:40] it's nice [18:38:59] hi folks [18:39:06] hi Dite [18:39:14] MediaWiki's default URLs are ugly; rewriting them for one wiki might be easy...but rewriting for nine wikis is a pain [18:39:26] I want to something like that [18:39:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Top_level [18:39:35] I installed CatagoryTree [18:39:49] But it didn't work :( [18:40:14] In what way did it not work? [18:40:29] let me show you .. 1sec [18:41:03] http://cevizwiki.int6.net/index.php5?title=Kategori:Top_level [18:41:23] It says, "This page is empty" [18:41:26] Iooh, I know [18:41:33] you hjave to have a top-level category [18:42:05] I chose 'Top' -- I put all my top-level categories into category Top, then I told CategoryTree to display Top, and hide the root [18:42:21] I would show you but my wiki is in limbo [18:42:27] ahhh. I see, I must create a catogry which is named "Top_level" [18:42:40] thx bro :) [18:44:58] sis :) np [18:45:47] I'll show you the syntax in a few minutes if you need it [18:46:55] {{#categorytree:All|mode=all|hideroot=on}} [18:47:01] sorry my top-level is 'All' [18:47:17] Jack_Phoenix: pages look like http://oink.corp/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [18:47:23] I want to take off the index.php [18:47:31] hmm... [18:47:54] okay, this is just a wild guess, but... [18:48:01] I assume that is stock for 1.11.0 because I don't think I changed anything [18:48:03] use the method at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access AND [18:48:13] 1. remove RewriteBase /~username if not needed [18:48:27] I think I did that one, I'll look again [18:48:33] 2. change RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] to RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ wiki/index.php/$1 [PT,L,QSA] [18:48:55] oh yeah that was my confusion, do I honestly have to put that .htaccess in / ? [18:48:58] ok I create the cat. but where should I put it ? " {{#categorytree:All|mode=all|hideroot=on}} " [18:49:03] I am absolutely no URL rewriting master and I don't guarantee that doesn't screw up your wiki :D [18:49:06] my wiki is not in there [18:49:09] misty_wrk: AFAIK, yes [18:49:16] it seems wrong not to put the .htaccess in /wiki [18:49:20] okk.. I will try it [18:50:05] Diet: put it in your page [18:50:13] ok [18:50:19] oh, the All? nowhwere. Put your other categories into All [18:50:21] your top-level ones [18:53:03] 03rotem * r26829 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [18:53:26] Jack_Phoenix: it writes the URL correctly now but it comes up 404 [18:53:42] odd...sorry that I couldn't help more :/ [18:53:45] File does not exist: /var/lib/mediawiki-1.11.0/Main_Page [18:54:01] np [18:54:17] thx bye [19:19:51] 03tango * r26830 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialRecentchangeslinked.php): Show changes to pages linked to via a redirect on Special:Recentchangeslinked [19:24:20] Hello, I got a question regarding caching of rendered math-formulas: it seems the images are cached simply by the md5 hash of the latex-string. can't there be a collision now, so that it shows an image of some other formula that got the same md5 hash (as unprobable as such a collision it)? [19:24:41] Jaran: yes, but that will never happen [19:24:59] well it is very very very unlikely to happen, but not impossible? [19:25:09] it's effectively impossible in real life [19:25:13] i know :p [19:25:17] i just wondered [19:25:18] actually [19:25:24] i set up mediawiki on windows [19:25:34] using a modified math.php for rendering [19:25:46] and i found that possibility of a collision in that code [19:25:56] was trying to check the "official release" [19:26:14] but i found not much documentation [19:26:33] especially concerning the math-table in the db backend [19:27:00] stupid url rewriting :( [19:28:29] flyingparchment, is this the official documentation of the math-table? -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Math_table [19:28:58] the line "Looks like a caching table for MathML translations to me." doesn't sound very... professional ;) [19:30:16] Jaran: well, someone who didn't write the code made the docs. [19:30:38] Jaran: and the Math/texvc stuff is arcane... people tend simply not to touch it and hope it doesn't break [19:30:53] Duesentrieb: are you smart with URL rewriting? [19:31:02] *sigh* [19:31:03] lol ok i understand [19:31:05] i manager... [19:31:09] err, manage [19:31:27] well I am apparently stupid about it, I have tried just about every method in the wiki [19:32:19] misty_wrk: ok, here's a quick rundonw: a) put files into one directory (not the document root), decide what *other* path should be used for the "pretty" urls (not the document root either!) [19:32:47] misty_wrk: b) adapt the rewrite rules from the example appropriately. do *not* set a RewriteBase, or set it to / [19:32:55] http://rafb.net/p/Zz0nXr50.html [19:32:58] misty_wrk: c) set wgArticlePath to the pretty urls [19:33:05] misty_wrk: d) profit! [19:33:25] I used this rewrite rule: http://rafb.net/p/18uYou45.html [19:33:40] it gave me the right URLs but Apache got confused and gave me 404's [19:33:46] I wish I could profit from this lol [19:33:50] misty_wrk: you made the number 1 mistake. [19:34:02] oh noes! [19:34:16] reread a) carefully. [19:34:34] the other path is not /, it is /wiki [19:34:39] doesn't that satisfy your a) [19:34:46] you use /wiki for both [19:34:55] files go into one (real) path. [19:34:55] oh [19:35:03] pages go into a *different* (virtual) path. [19:35:04] you mean I should remove my Alias /wiki /blah/blah [19:35:12] from the apache.conf? [19:35:35] not necessarily. [19:36:00] that defines where your files are. how you map that to the file system is up to you. [19:36:15] per convention, you'd not use /wiki for that though, but something like /w or /mw [19:36:27] (becaue most people like /wiki as the path for their wiki pages) [19:36:54] it seems to be an extra level of redirection to have to put it in /w [19:36:57] but hell, I'll try it [19:37:24] /w would be the "real" path, no redirection involved. [19:37:43] nut much point in using an extra alias, but you can [19:38:14] (afaik you can also use an alias *instead* of rewrite rules - but i don't know anything about that method) [19:38:56] yeah you have to put about 10 aliases [19:39:03] it's one of the methods under 'root access' [19:40:18] *shrug* [19:40:26] i like the simple .htaccess rewrite rules [19:40:29] no fuzz [19:40:32] again, I am at the point where it is rewriting the URLs but giving me 404 [19:40:40] I think the $wgArticlePath is wrong or something [19:41:23] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [19:42:33] again. do *something* so you have your files in /w (or /mw or something, but *not* /wiki) [19:42:57] then *rewrite* /wiki to /w/index.php?title=... [19:43:09] *the* that setting of wgArticlePath will be correct [19:43:12] *then [19:43:20] http://rafb.net/p/bjgslp80.html [19:43:30] I did do it, there is my config [19:43:59] everything is in /w [19:44:39] misty_wrk: wgScriptPath is wrong [19:44:42] it must be /w [19:44:57] that's the *real* path [19:45:10] ohh! [19:45:18] bbl... [19:46:37] File does not exist: /var/www/wiki [19:46:43] I swear I am not an idiot [19:47:07] Duesentrieb, flyingparchment: i calculated the chances of a collision to be 0.29% if there were only 5000 formulas already, don't forget the birthday paradoxon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_paradox [19:47:46] 0.29% is far from "never going to happen" :p [19:47:56] meh [19:48:07] Jaran: collision of what? oh... formula hashes [19:48:10] ör [19:48:10] [[uncyclopedia:nobody cares]] about maths anyway; way too difficult [19:48:13] yeh [19:48:16] what are you talking about? [19:48:22] Jaran: ok, but how many of the collisions are valid tex too? [19:48:49] misty_wrk: no idea, really. what's the url of your wiki? [19:48:50] that doesn't matter [19:48:58] it doesn't? [19:49:24] no, check the birthday paradoxon, your question would be comparable to "how many have birthday at the same day than me" (kinda) [19:49:28] Duesentrieb: It's not externally available. I can make it available via a proxy if necessary [19:49:30] i think [19:49:49] misty_wrk: that would probably only add to the mess. [19:50:04] misty_wrk: what happens if you go to /w/index.php?title=foo [19:50:12] Jaran: i don't believe your calculation is accurate [19:50:16] (but i'm also not in the mood to argue :) [19:50:26] ;) nor am i, it's late here [19:50:47] but i think it's still a problem which might be adresses in some later revision [19:51:00] aren't there some geeks that can think about it? [19:51:31] the URL becomes http://oink.corp/wiki/Index.php and it's 404 [19:52:07] Jaran: sounds like gmaxwell's turf. but i havn't seen him around for a few days. [19:53:10] no, it becomes /w/index.php and it's 404 [19:53:26] misty_wrk: /w/index.php must not be a 404 [19:53:27] Duesentrieb, flyingparchment: i'll add it to the bugtracker and see what happens :) [19:53:33] "In the real world, the number of files required for a 50% probability for an MD5 collision to exist is ... 1.8 x 10^19" [19:53:42] misty_wrk: your alias should map that to a file. if it doesn't, the alias doesn't work. [19:53:53] misty_wrk: if /w/index.php doesn't work, none of the rest will [19:54:59] flyingparchment: for a 32 bit hash? [19:55:06] Jaran: huh? md5 is 128-bit [19:55:20] oh [19:55:36] 03(ASSIGNED) SMW tooltip text may not fit its talk bubble, can't scroll it. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11656 +comment (10mak) [19:56:27] ok I got /w to work, I took out $wgArticlePath completely [19:57:41] so now I am back at where I started, with ugly IRLs with /w instead of /wiki [19:58:14] I am not convinced this is worth the amount of work [19:58:17] would I need an extension to have certain links open in a new window? [19:58:23] misty_wrk: uh... if /w works or not should have nothing to do with wgArticlePath [19:58:37] sw3-ops: no, you need a hack. [19:58:56] i don't think is's cleanely doable with an extension [19:58:58] Doh! [19:59:07] 03(ASSIGNED) collapse smw_isspecprop and smw_propertyspecial - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11660 +comment (10mak) [19:59:19] Jaran: Which collisions are valid tex does matter - in terms of the birthday paradox it's like asking "do any two blonde people have the same birthday?" - it's less likely than *any* too people having the same bday, blonde people is a subset of people just as valid tex is a subset of all strings. [19:59:25] misty_wrk: well... it *should* only take about 10 minutes [19:59:25] Duesentrieb: ahh, but it does matter. I comment it out, /w works. I put it back, /w does not work [19:59:35] misty_wrk: workf for me on first try. not so long ago, btw [19:59:40] Duesentrieb, would you happen to know of any, or have you tried any? [19:59:47] sw3-ops: no. [19:59:50] thanks Tango42, will give me a bit to think about :) [20:00:02] misty_wrk: something very very odd must be going on. [20:00:19] Duesentrieb: question: Should the .htaccess be in /w or in / [20:00:21] misty_wrk: for example, something mapping /wiki back to /w, or some cruft like that. [20:00:42] misty_wrk: what happens if you set the articlepath to something completely off? like /xyzzy/$1 ? [20:00:47] question 2: should $wgArticlePath be /wiki/$1 or /w/$1 [20:00:54] misty_wrk: in / [20:01:11] ok, it is [20:01:24] and wgArticlePath should be /wiki/$1 if that is the form of url you want, and you have rules rewriting from /wiki to /w/index... [20:01:28] http://oink.corp/foobar/Main_Page [20:01:37] when I type http://oink.corp/w [20:01:51] when wgArticlePath is /foobar/$1 [20:03:09] misty_wrk: hm. you are trying too many things at once for my taste. [20:03:25] you told me to change that to foobar [20:03:32] yes, true :) [20:03:34] why does rewriting confuse people so much? [20:03:35] well you sayd xyz or something but still [20:03:38] it's really not that hard [20:03:39] flyingparchment: no idea [20:03:47] flyingparchment: I did not start out confused [20:03:55] I think I have a fairly straightforward set-up [20:04:07] misty_wrk: anyway, set wgArticlePath back to ugly form, and remove the rewrite rules. see if /w/index.php?title=foo works. [20:04:15] (it should *not* redirect anywhere) [20:04:35] it seems css and js don't go through the parser; is this correct? [20:04:48] MZMcBride: kind of correct. [20:05:01] it depends on how they are loaded [20:05:08] ok, I am there. It does not redirect [20:05:10] not on the fact that they are css or js [20:05:18] if i put a template on a css or js page, it doesn't load categories or expand the template [20:05:25] but it will list the template as transcluded [20:05:27] http://oink.corp/w/index.php/Main_Page [20:05:34] misty_wrk: and it shows you a wiki page (with "no text yet" or something?) [20:05:45] no, it shows me my front page [20:05:48] misty_wrk: err. that url is *not* what i was aksing about... [20:05:49] oh you want me to try the title=foo [20:05:54] yes. [20:06:06] currently no text on page [20:06:18] and the url stays as it is, i hope [20:06:21] Duesentrieb: do any other pages act like that in mediawiki? [20:06:34] yes [20:06:43] MZMcBride: again: it does not depend on the page, but on the way they are loaded. [20:06:53] misty_wrk: ok then. put back the rewrite rules (and only them). [20:07:08] misty_wrk: then see what you get if you try /wiki/Main_Page [20:07:17] or /wiki/Foo [20:07:32] i realize that; i'm trying to make a list of templates that are always substituted [20:07:55] o_O [20:08:03] always subsituted? templates? what? [20:08:07] the problem is that a lot of them automatically generate categories or they will fill the pre-expand size very quickly [20:08:15] ok with the rewrite rules back /wiki gives me 404, but /w gives me http://oink.corp/w/index.php/Foo [20:08:24] it's odd; i know [20:09:18] but if i were to make a list on a page title Wikipedia:Substituted templates.css, then the templates wouldn't show up as unused (because really they are used, they're just substituted) and i wouldn't be adding random templates to certain categories [20:09:33] also, i wouldn't hit any template limits [20:09:37] misty_wrk: err, what? the way /w behaves changed? or did you try a different url? [20:09:50] misty_wrk: and did you try /wiki, or /wiki/, or /wiki/Foo? [20:09:53] so i'm wondering if there are any ways to accomplish this without using a css or js page [20:09:55] please be precise [20:10:01] the way /w behaves changes (it takes away the ?) [20:10:12] I tried /wiki and /wiki/index.php?title=foo [20:10:28] and /wiki/foo [20:10:47] MZMcBride: sorry, i have no idea what you are talking about. [20:10:48] and /wiki/ [20:10:54] ok [20:11:00] misty_wrk: if you didn't change the article path, it should not change. [20:11:17] I actually commented out the article path, so it would use the default [20:11:29] misty_wrk: also, /wiki/index.php?title=foo will not work, and should not [20:11:48] misty_wrk: hm... the default might be pathinfo-form, which is what you are seeing. [20:12:07] 03mkroetzsch * r26831 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_LanguageRu.php: Russian language update for SMW1.0, thanks to cnit@uniyar.ac.ru. [20:12:13] yes I think you are right [20:12:14] misty_wrk: this should be completely unrelated to the rewrite rules, though [20:12:24] yes it is unrelated. [20:12:27] i.e. the behavior is the same now as it was before. [20:12:30] I moved .htaccess and it is the same. [20:12:36] good. [20:13:02] and if you try /wiki/Foo without the rewrite rules, you should get a 404, right= [20:13:04] ? [20:13:05] well, found a hack that opens all links in a new window.. getting closer :P [20:13:16] yes [20:13:18] now, does that error change in any way if you put the rewrite rules back? [20:13:29] because i'm getting the impression they are simply not used at all. [20:13:42] no change whatsoever [20:13:53] 03mkroetzsch * r26832 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_LanguageDe.php: Use "Attribut" not "Eigenschaft" consistently in German translation. [20:14:01] (wtf) [20:14:19] mode is 644 for the file [20:14:38] if it wasn't readable you wouldbe be able to see anythign at all. [20:14:48] a non-readable .htaccess effectiv ely disables the site. [20:14:54] 03mkroetzsch * r26833 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/README: extended translation credits [20:15:14] I know what's wrong [20:15:44] hi, how do i get a list of pages that link to some specific page in mediawiki? [20:15:54] I don't think I have AllowOverride All on my / [20:16:01] use Special:Whatlinkshere/page_name [20:16:02] khatahn: go to that page, click the link that sais "what links here" in the toolbox [20:16:25] Duesentrieb: ahh, thanks. :) [20:17:16] misty_wrk: hm, i would have thunk it would give you a 500 if you tried to override something you are not allowed to override... but the details of apache config are strange and wonderful [20:17:27] ok now redirects work, when I type http://oink.corp/wiki I get http://oink.corp/w/index.php/Main_Page [20:17:47] it's totally the opposite of what I want lol [20:17:52] but it's something [20:18:15] now I put the $wgArticlePath back? [20:18:17] 03(NEW) Current caching of rendered math formulas allows a tiny but non-zero chance of hash collisions resulting in a display of wrong formulas - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11702 minor; lowest; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (wikimedia.bugzilla) [20:19:02] it all works :D [20:19:11] *misty_wrk sends Duesentrieb a 6-pack [20:19:17] (stupid apache) [20:19:23] AllowOverride None means to ignore the .htaccess btw [20:19:37] *misty_wrk adds that to the damn short url wiki [20:20:17] bwaaahaha! [20:20:38] misty_wrk: perhaps drop a note on the documentation page [20:20:54] somethign along the lines of "if your .htaccess is being ignored, check for AllowOverride NOn [20:20:58] *None [20:21:48] 03(mod) Current caching of rendered math formulas allows a tiny but non-zero chance of hash collisions resulting in a display of wrong formulas - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11702 (10raimond.spekking) [20:22:58] Duesentrieb: done already, at the bottom: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [20:23:07] it kind of kills the "don't need root" goodness of that method though [20:23:39] I could not believe it didn't make me log in to edit [20:24:15] 03(mod) Current caching of rendered math formulas allows a tiny but non-zero chance of hash collisions resulting in a display of wrong formulas - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11702 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:25:07] misty_wrk: dude, it's a wiki... [20:25:32] I know, but I thought mw defaulted to making you log in to edit [20:26:23] I'm very glad the problem was not simply me being an idiot [20:26:42] nope, that would be a bad default for a wiki [20:27:21] huh. I wonder why mine does that then [20:28:42] because you set wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [20:29:09] Duesentrieb, is it a sort of etiquette to ignore pms ? [20:29:41] oh :D [20:29:51] alnokt0a: yes [20:30:03] in help channels, ask in public so that others might be helped too [20:30:07] alnokt0a: no... i replied two minutes ago. but if you are not registered, most people will not see your pms [20:30:11] and to take some of the pressure off one person [20:30:27] not unless they have explicitely opted to receive pms from non-registered users (as i have) [20:30:30] ah i see [20:30:41] but when it is off topic [20:30:45] als, as misty_wrk said, asking in public is usually better. [20:30:51] more people can jump in [20:30:56] stick a fork in me, I am done (with wiki for the day) [20:31:03] or you don't want to annoy the rest of the ppl [20:31:08] in pm, you'd be stuck with my limited knowledge [20:31:22] so modest [20:31:26] alnokt0a: you think it's better to dorectly annoy a particular person?... [20:31:30] heh [20:31:45] no [20:31:51] of course [20:32:22] but ignoring is impolite imho [20:32:29] unless that one deserves it [20:32:34] i.e a vandal [20:32:47] anyway [20:32:50] sure. that'S why i replied [20:33:10] otoh, i'm often talking on multiple channels, and may not notice very soon. or not at all, be3cause i got sidetracked somewhere [20:33:11] yes, thanks for that [20:33:22] anyway, just ask :) [20:33:41] *misty_wrk keeps clicking URLs to look at the pretty URLs :D [20:33:51] i did. :) [20:47:49] Hello all [20:49:25] I have an encoding problem, is the title of the page in page.page_title in UTF8 encoding ? [20:50:19] In mine, it's look like it's ISO 8859-1 [20:51:46] pascalp: mediawiki stores everything as utf8 since version 1.5 [20:52:17] pascalp: however, it *pretends* the tables to be latin-something (unless you tell it not to in the installer), because mysql's utf-support is broken. [20:52:48] if you see actual latin-1 stuff in the database, either mysql's magic auto conversion seconds guessing cruft is fooling you, or the same cruft mangeled you db during import/export [20:53:54] it's not the import/export because it's fine for the other fields [20:54:32] all the tables are utf8_bin [20:54:35] what table are you looking at? [20:55:03] page [20:55:12] hm. should be utf8 [20:55:15] and utf8_bin would indicate you used "experimental utf8 support" on installation [20:55:41] 03yaron * r26834 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateProperty.php: Removed unnecessary line [20:55:45] legacy tables (cur and old) may contain latin-1 stuff, if you upgraded from 1.4 or earlier at some point [20:57:12] I don't know if the wiki have been upgraded :( [20:58:42] how mediawiki can deal with it, I have no problem of encoding on the wiki pages [21:03:38] 03(NEW) Contents disappear if two tags inside a table - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (suruena) [21:04:24] if convert the content into utf8, the wiki is no longer working. It's really weird, mediawiki is doing some conversion at some points... [21:05:03] pascalp: more likely, your mysql interface is doing some conversion [21:05:42] if it's the mysql interface it will be the same for all the fields and tables [21:05:57] not necessarily [21:06:02] but whatever [21:06:07] if it works, be happy [21:07:56] well.... I can get troubles in the future... I'll try to investigate more [21:08:48] I want to edit MediaWiki:Edithelppage so that when the user clicks the sidebar item "Editing help" he or she gets taken to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing If I insert a URL beginning http:// into this page, I don't get a correct link; if I put the URL in [ ] brackets, the sidebar item is no longer a link at all, just text. What should I be using? [21:09:08] 03(NEW) SMW-setup fails for some DB names - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 major; high; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mak) [21:09:52] 03(mod) SMW-setup fails for some DB names - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 (10mak) [21:10:05] 03(ASSIGNED) SMW-setup fails for some DB names - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 (10mak) [21:17:16] I'll try again: I want to edit MediaWiki:Edithelppage so that when the user clicks the sidebar item "Editing help" he or she gets taken to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing If I insert a URL beginning http:// into this page, I don't get a correct link; if I put the URL in [ ] brackets, the sidebar item is no longer a link at all, just text. What should I be using? [21:22:56] 03(mod) Small bug in SMWSQLStore::getPropertiesSpecial() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11674 (10yaron57) [22:55:34] is it easy to do tables in a mediawiki? [22:57:33] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [23:00:58] thanks! [23:01:19] I am having so much fun with mediawiki :) [23:02:22] :) [23:10:53] *sigh* I had to turn off anonymous editing and account creation because of all the spam. [23:11:08] I'd like to put a message on the LOG IN page telling people to send me an email if they want an account. [23:11:12] How can I edit that page [23:11:12] ? [23:13:25] I found it! Nevermind. [23:33:22] 03erik * r26835 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/misc/ (. FundButton.php): +totally basic fundraising button [23:40:26] Hi, what is the string to print a Windows new line (CRLF) in a PHP echo statement? [23:40:34] i know this is wikimedia suppoert [23:40:47] but someone should know some PHP here :) [23:40:49] mediawiki [23:41:02] \n seems to be a unix newline [23:41:09] well you can visit ##php [23:41:14] lol, wikipedia got me confused [23:41:24] ok, i'll try that [23:41:27] :)