[02:01:01] I'm using 1.10 and I love that you can restrict namespaces from being edited by certain groups but is there a way to also restrict reading in the same manner? [02:08:37] !prevacc [02:08:43] *Simetrical sighs dramatically [02:08:58] AphelionZ, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [02:09:00] AphelionZ, in short, no. [02:09:10] Simetrical: yeah, i figured [02:09:35] Simetrical: I've been up and down all the documentation saying "NO!" and tried a bunch of the extensions on that page and can't really get any of them to work with 1.10 [02:09:39] *AphelionZ sighs sadly [02:10:00] My client is pushing me to install Drupal or something but i really, *really* dont want to do that [02:10:19] There's other wiki software that will allow finer-grained access control. [02:11:19] Simetrical: yeah but we love MW :) [02:27:42] Is MediaWiki very short on developers? [02:29:43] Depends on your definition. [02:30:00] Brion isn't tall, I think he is 5'8" or something... [02:30:13] oh... sorry... misread the question. ;) [02:31:34] We could always use more developers. [02:31:56] Especially, more skilled and paid developers, so they would contribute more useful stuff while wasting less of Brion's time. [02:32:33] Lol [02:33:11] Do you think there's enough on the website in terms of guidance and introduction to MediaWiki development? [02:33:29] Sure. Anyone who wants to can contribute. [02:33:35] They have to read the code, ultimately. [02:34:25] What about those who need to get to grips with PHP? [02:34:59] There are plenty of PHP tutorials in the world. [02:35:11] If you can't figure it out even with them, we don't want you. [02:35:24] So once you know the PHP it's quite easy to come to terms with the architecture and get stuck in? [02:35:27] Er, not speaking to you personally. [02:35:31] But in general. [02:35:52] OldakQuill, I wouldn't say it's "quite easy". It's code, you read it and fiddle with it to figure out what it does. Same as with any app. [02:36:53] Ok, thanks - I just don't know what to expect if I tried. [02:37:02] *I just wanted to know what to expect... [02:37:13] Changing core code might take more skill than making a small extension... [02:38:07] OldakQuill, MediaWiki is not a paragon of beautiful and elegant code. But it's learnable. [02:38:50] How well would you have to know PHP to help with the documentation? [02:39:08] THAT would be an ideal starting place, imho [02:42:15] OldakQuill, you could help with the documentation without knowing how to program at all. Experiment. Of course, you'll probably get stuff partially wrong if you don't have a really good idea of how it works, but oh well. [02:47:03] Ok, thank you. [02:57:26] !access [02:57:26] For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [02:57:41] !prevacc is For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [02:57:41] You don't have permission to do that. [02:57:55] !info [02:58:01] !who [03:52:52] For redirect pages, is there a way to know the destination page_id directly? [03:53:32] From what I understand, if a page is a redirect the page_is_redirect flag is set in the page table and in the pagelinks table there is the destination page title...but not the id [03:54:41] anyone? [04:26:04] Hello, trying to figure a way of extending support for additional tags within anchor links e.g., [04:26:36] looks like all the angle brackets are turned into the encoded equivalent somewhere in the editing process. [04:27:08] Yes, only certain explicitly defined HTML tags are allowed; everything else is treated as text. [04:27:35] I guess I am wondering which hook I should try and create a parser for, to enable the support [04:28:10] ParseBeforeStrip? [04:29:44] Ideally, the list of allowed tags should be moved out of the parser (where it's hard-coded) and implemented as an array like $wgAllowedHtml or something. [04:30:57] I'm trying to add Microformats support, and the anchor tag needs to have more values on it to do this. [04:33:34] Just installed a mediawiki and copied some template from other site. but some conditional marks like "{{#if:{{{1|}}}{{{" are not parsed, and leave them displayed in original form, Can any body help [04:34:13] {{}} is a transclusion of a template [04:34:27] {{{}}} is a variable in the template that is passed values [04:35:10] a totally newbie, can you explain more on how am I going to do [04:35:35] If you edit the page on the other site, it should give you a list of templates used (templates are special kinds of articles) [04:35:56] Copy over the templates to your site as well [04:36:11] yes, I did that [04:36:23] I copied all the related template [04:36:37] is there any way to set a restriction on a special page without editing SpecialPage.php? [04:36:39] tony__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Transclusion [04:37:08] can i use a mutator function? [04:37:24] tony__: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template [04:38:34] Thank you very much jeff [04:39:05] tony__: no problem, its worth reading a little about it, templates can be very powerful [04:39:15] by the way, is there any way I can export a template with all the related template and do the import as well [04:39:58] tony__: not that i know of, edit/copy/create-new/paste is all I know, anyone else? [04:40:30] It is very time consuming to trace all the related template and do the copy and paste [04:41:04] tony__: Think how time consuming it was to create the templates :D [04:42:46] i dont' know of a way, it would make a great extension to special:export though [04:43:12] oh, yeah, that's also true [04:44:17] Thank you very much jeff, you saved my day [04:44:30] tony__: The {{#...:}} things are ParserFunctions, so you'll need those for the template to work properly. [04:44:50] !ParserFunctions [04:44:50] For help using parser functions, please see . [04:45:49] tony__: It is true that the site may have had extensions installed, with custom parsers (I think that is what slavie is referring to) [04:46:10] tony__: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions [04:46:34] {{#if:}} is a conditional statement defined by the ParserFunctions extension. tony__'s problem is very common. :) [04:47:03] how am I going to trace down what kind of custom parser installed on their site then [04:47:25] Just install the extension documented at , it has all the ones you need. [04:48:40] *slavie|away is now known as slavie|away|away. [04:48:59] thank you slavieaway, I will check it out [04:49:05] Welcome. [04:49:22] slavie|away: ah, this one... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions_(extended) [04:50:01] No, this one: [04:52:24] slavie|away: thank you! [04:52:29] Welcome. :) [05:12:10] slavie|away: looks like there is a $dontstrip array referred to in the Parser.php [06:02:40] is it the case that it's not possible to include template calls as template arguments? [06:03:21] i.e. something like {{MyTemplate|foo|{{MySentence}}|bar}} won't work? [06:08:39] or am I not bending over backwards the right way to make it work? [06:23:03] Thib_: looks like you can http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template [06:24:01] yeah I saw that, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#Restrictions_on_parameter_values right? [06:24:15] "Any unmatched pairs of two consecutive braces or brackets must be placed in nowiki tags. Braces can be used for nested template parameters, nested templates or parser functions while brackets can be used for links. Unmatched pairs not placed in nowiki tags either prevent template expansion or are taken as closing braces for the template call." [06:24:39] it sounds as if as long as I'm not doing anything too weird, if everything is well-nested, then it should work [06:24:43] but I couldn't get it to work [06:24:53] the wiki I'm using is running 1.5.7 though ... [06:25:00] maybe template calls weren't always nesting ... [06:25:38] Did your MySentence template have a variable it needed? [06:25:49] There is something about parameters needing to all be available... [06:26:07] Thib_: oh, that is a little young... [06:26:29] yeah ... [06:27:00] oh I don't really have a MySentence template, but I meant it to be straighforward [06:27:46] for example MyTemplate could be "First: {{{1}}}, second: {{{2}}}, third: {{{3}}}" and MySentence could be "This is my sentence" [06:28:19] I didn't mean anything weird by it; I intended to suggest properly nested templates. [06:28:31] it feels like you should be able to do that. [06:28:40] the docs don't seem to suggest otherwise. [06:31:28] aha! [06:31:31] I found it! [06:31:33] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Advanced_templates#Including_the_content_of_a_template_in_a_template_or_variable_name_or_parameter_value [06:31:59] it says "since about 19 October 2005" [06:32:07] 1.5.7 must be too ancient. [06:46:23] hi [06:47:00] what is the best way to install mediawiki 1.10 from the command line ? [06:47:17] for system administrators, that is ;-) [06:55:41] dachary: copy all files to a dir of your webserver and use a webbrowser to install [06:55:55] and use 1.11 :) [06:56:55] Raymond_: thanks, that's exactly the answer I was not looking for ;-) [06:57:18] dachary: why not? [06:57:34] "use a webbrowser" vs "command line" [06:58:06] I know the difference :) but I am unsure if it can be done via command line. [06:58:25] i'm sure it can, the question is how [07:00:01] some people provide mediawiki as part of their "1 euro / months web hosting solution" and I very much doubt it involves a system administrator filling the standard mediawiki form [07:03:00] source maintenance/tables.sql to your database, create a LocalSettings.php [07:03:17] (use the web installer to make a template, then you can use that to create future wikis) [07:11:15] test [07:11:49] hi guys, do you know which extension uses these tags: [07:11:51] {{#security:edit|YourName}} [07:11:55] and [07:12:16] [07:17:12] flyingparchment: i'm not sure what you mean by "make a template" [07:18:31] i'll go for the mysql < maintainance/tables.sql though, thanks for the hint [07:18:53] will this create the mediawiki user too ? [07:30:38] dachary: no, it won't create a user [07:30:48] dachary: by a template, i mean you have something like $wgDBname = __DATABASENAME__; [07:30:58] dachary: then to create a wiki, you substitute that with the real database name [07:32:08] i see [07:32:33] flyingparchment: i'm surprised there is not a HOWTO about this. Or maybe it's just WRONG ;-) [07:33:41] dachary: the web installer is the only 'supported' method... (although there's no reason not to do it this way, very few people do, so no-one really bothered writing much about it) [07:34:10] oh well [07:34:20] i found users.sql [07:34:30] don't use that! [07:34:35] it's a very outdated wikimedia-specific file [07:34:35] really ? [07:34:53] it's not use to create the users ? [07:35:07] oh, wait.. nm, that's a different users.sql [07:35:17] yeah, the one in maintenance/ should work [07:35:52] looking at tables.sql, it seems it contains lots of $wg variables. If i just mysql < tables.sql it will not do what I need. Do you have a recommendation ? [07:36:11] you need a table profix? [07:36:14] prefix [07:36:18] yes [07:36:26] and wgDBTableOptions [07:36:27] etc [07:36:43] sed -e 's,/*$wgDBprefix*/,my_prefix_/' -e ... [07:36:49] :-) [07:37:01] this freaks me out [07:37:11] that's basically what the installer does [07:37:14] (although it doesn't use sed) [07:40:33] maybe i can call the installer with curl --data variable=value http://localhost/foo.php [07:41:28] easier even [07:41:40] php var=foo setup.php [07:42:27] QUERY_STRING='var=foo&var2=bar' php setup.php [08:17:21] <_wooz> lo [08:50:29] hello [08:50:52] is there any way to enable uploads for everybody, not only users which logged in? [08:51:13] AFAIK, no [08:53:19] yes [08:53:20] maybe [08:53:21] :) [09:05:16] 03(mod) Image upload replacements should create watchlist entry - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778 (10siebrand) [09:05:25] 03(NEW) Sitenotice/anonnotice not displayed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11705 major; high; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (siebrand) [09:24:48] <[karsten]> Bugzilla has suffered an internal error. Please save this page and send it to brion@wikimedia.org with details of what you were doing at the time this message appeared. [09:24:49] <[karsten]> URL: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/token.cgi [09:24:49] <[karsten]> I could not figure out what you wanted to do. [09:24:56] <[karsten]> :P [09:25:00] <[karsten]> I just tried to login? [09:28:41] <[karsten]> ok, sent error stuff to brion [09:29:32] hi [09:29:50] i use $wgSMTP because my network is filtering port 25 [09:30:02] this variable use TLS auth? [09:49:44] 03(mod) ResultWrapper inconsistency regarding rows - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11706 (10mediawiki-bugzilla) [09:49:45] 03(mod) Separate messages 'prevn', 'nextn' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4777 (10N/A) [09:50:44] 03(NEW) ResultWrapper inconsistency regarding rows - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11706 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (mediawiki-bugzilla) [09:57:52] 03erik * r26836 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/Database scripts/Convenience/ (wikidataCoreTables.sql wikidataSourceTables.sql): [09:57:52] - switch to InnoDB engine [09:57:52] - script_log exists across datasets [10:27:12] hello, i have a question about the storage in mediawiki. Does one articel is stored within single item inside the database? [10:31:58] keneida: if you want to access content of articles you should use the API that comes with mw [10:32:52] keneida: it's better to not touch the database since it's architecture could change [10:33:04] keneida: what do you want to do? [10:34:01] my idea is to take a csv file, parse it to mediawiki format and insert it to the database as a new articles. This way it can be done by the machine. Do youhave maybe other idea how to insert large amount of new data without the need to write it by hand? [10:34:25] one csv line would be a one article [10:35:36] keneida: use the API. [10:36:19] keneida: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Article.php [10:36:46] keneida: you can create new articles with the Article class methods [10:38:46] does images inside mediawiki are stored in databas or filesystem? [10:39:00] ca i use api to add large amount of image files also? [10:39:05] oh. images? [10:39:16] don't know. [10:40:48] Can i use api with java? [10:41:21] no [10:41:27] it's written in php [10:41:51] so i need to write a parser to pars the csv [10:42:19] erm. parsing a csv? [10:42:20] in php and put it as a page inside mediawiki so it will be acccesible from there [10:42:31] whatever. [10:43:14] the images stuff should be captured also in the API. just look at the Image class of the API. [10:43:20] ok [10:43:30] at least is technicaly possible :) [10:43:37] you should read the Documentation of the mw api [10:43:52] it's at least damn simple :) [10:48:01] another question. A artical has few parts, can i limit the edditing rigths of certain parts or only whole article. [10:58:21] i mean can i define few elements inside article that can be modified and other parts not. And if the modified parts can be altered only by some user group [11:00:00] i do understand what you mean. i don't think so. [11:00:02] <[karsten]> keneida, do you want to limit the editing for your program only or for all users? [11:00:45] <[karsten]> there may be extensions which limit editing right like you want [11:00:49] <[karsten]> then again, there may not be [11:01:06] <[karsten]> in any case, it's not possible to do this with the vanilla sources [11:01:12] 03fredck * r26837 10/trunk/extensions/FCKeditor/: Created the extension folder to hold the FCKeditor extension project. [11:01:14] <[karsten]> *software [11:01:14] i mean after the insertion of the data. Using normal wiki engine not api [11:01:21] <[karsten]> no [11:05:40] so i need something more like cms not wiki [12:03:15] any api dude online? [12:04:46] hi, Could anyone tell me where I can configure mediawiki 1.5.0 to allow me to upload svg files? Currently I get a '".svg" is not a recommended image file format.' message. Thanks! [12:07:43] hm... interesting [12:07:52] !wikipatterns is http://www.wikipatterns.com [12:07:52] Successfully added keyword: wikipatterns [12:08:35] draxil: i could tell you, but first of all, i should tellyou not to use mediawiki 1.5. it's ancient. there's no good reason to use it. [12:08:51] @search upload [12:08:51] Results: [install, invalidupload, uploads] [12:09:04] !uploads | draxil [12:09:04] draxil : File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by the web server (chmod 777 or allow the Apache user to write to it, etc.) then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info [12:09:23] hm, maybe we have something more specific? [12:09:26] @search mime [12:09:26] Results: [mime] [12:09:39] @search type [12:09:39] Results: [export, mime] [12:10:08] !mime | draxil [12:10:08] draxil : For assistance in configuring mime type detection on MediaWiki, please consult [12:10:17] but, as i said, first of all: [12:10:21] !upgrade | draxil [12:10:21] draxil : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [12:10:30] *Duesentrieb hugs the bot [12:11:12] nice tool indeed. [12:11:33] too bad it doesn't support pm :) [12:11:40] aliases would be nice, too... [12:11:52] oh man. php5 is such a crap [12:12:00] well, it's better than php4 :) [12:12:11] php4 is total crap...ugh [12:12:15] ever got this one: zend_mm_heap corrupted [12:12:16] *Jack_Phoenix hugs MediaWiki 1.11 [12:12:41] PunkRock: no... that sounds fun :) [12:13:08] Duesentrieb: for small values of fun :) [12:13:09] hehe [12:13:23] *PunkRock needs coffe [12:13:27] +e [12:46:51] aha, thanks I'll check that configuring link, but then I'll probably upgrade :) [12:51:03] "$wgStrictFileExtensions = false;" did the trick, thanks for the link [13:00:55] 03(NEW) two apostrophes make an interwiki link rendered as text - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11707 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [13:02:20] Hi [13:02:38] Do you know the cache key which is used to store article content in memcache? [13:06:39] Hi, Inez. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration#Memcached_settings [13:08:07] Soroush83 this is not what I'm asking about. [13:08:25] hi [13:08:41] hi [13:08:42] hi KJ-Wikia [13:08:43] I get this error message: [13:08:44] Warning: file_exists() [function.file-exists]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/bin/gdiff3) is not within the allowed path(s): (/home/afterwik:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php:/tmp) in /home/afterwik/public_html/config/index.php on line 1412 [13:08:53] with installation [13:09:00] Inez: hi [13:09:36] can anybody help with that? [13:11:02] Nivieled: what's the problem? [13:11:04] hi, i'd like to setup a wiki where only registered users can edit pages, but anonymous users still can create and edit the Talk pages. i think I have to use $wgNamespaceProtection for that, not sure. Ideas? [13:11:24] by anonymous I mean not logged in users [13:11:26] nikerabbit: With installation I get the following message: [13:11:27] Warning: file_exists() [function.file-exists]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/bin/gdiff3) is not within the allowed path(s): (/home/afterwik:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php:/tmp) in /home/afterwik/public_html/config/index.php on line 1412 [13:11:38] !access kilx [13:11:38] You don't have permission to do that. [13:11:39] Inez, I've never used memcache. I hoped it to be useful for you [13:11:41] bah [13:11:47] hi, Nikerabbit! [13:11:52] how are you? [13:12:10] kilx: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Preventing_Access [13:12:56] Nikerabbit, see :http://www.farsiweb.info/jalali/jalali.c please [13:13:18] Nivieled: it says pretty clearly "is not within the allowed path" [13:13:36] you have too restricted setup if you want to use gdiff3 [13:14:00] Soroush83: argh, missing mime-type [13:14:05] Nikerabbit: yes, I found $wgNamespaceProtection from that page. but the examples show how to resctrict by namespace, not enable [13:15:02] kilx: yes. you restrict access to all non-talk namespaces. [13:15:06] that's what you want, no? [13:15:09] I get about 20 of that messages... But I can run installation of mediawiki.... [13:16:00] kilx: just restrict all the other namespaces [13:16:03] Nikerabbit, missing mime-type? [13:16:20] Soroush83: yeah, it suggets that I open that file in less... [13:16:24] Nikerabbit, this is about calendar I talked yesterday [13:16:32] oh Behdad [13:16:45] exit [13:16:46] Nikerabbit, do you know him? [13:17:07] Soroush83: not personally [13:18:20] argh, no comments [13:19:44] sorry, I was disconnected. I might have missed some messages. Nikerabbit, that program is a convertor which will work for about 100 years [13:21:24] [16:18:20] Nikerabbit> argh, no comments [13:21:43] sorry, was afk. where do I get the list of all Namespaces? [13:22:22] includes/defines.php + the ones you've added [13:22:32] thanks [13:22:49] Nikerabbit, const char *j_month_name[13] is the name of months [13:23:12] they have different names in different languages [13:23:25] kilx: I'm not absolutely sure which setting takes precedence... [13:23:41] Nikerabbit, Persian year begins at Novruz. It is usually March 21 [13:24:45] int j_days_in_month[12], days that months have in Jalali calendar [13:24:57] Jalali is Persian calendar [13:25:46] ugh [13:28:37] ugh [13:28:50] Nikerabbit, If you look at it you see it just gets the days have been spent since 1600 [13:29:03] 03(NEW) Set logo for Hungarian Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mrekavarga) [13:29:21] *AzaTht wants a substonsubst: thingi [13:29:32] instead of the includeonly hack [13:29:34] and then findes jd, jm and jy [13:30:17] and yea, daily 5678 [13:30:20] 03(mod) Set logo for Hungarian Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [13:38:40] how i can configure $wgSMTP through TLS? [13:38:58] now my network is filter and need to use these variables with a authenticated email user [13:40:36] Hello all. How can i attach file to any wiki article, for example zip or doc? [13:41:06] solshark__: in mediawiki you don't attach files to articles. first you upload it (click 'upload file' in the toolbox, while logged in), then you link to it with [[:Image:Foo.zip]] [13:41:23] !uploads | solshark__ [13:41:23] solshark__ : File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by the web server (chmod 777 or allow the Apache user to write to it, etc.) then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info [13:41:49] asmarin: it's a bit unclear what you are actually trying to do, and why [13:41:51] Yes. i know, bur attach doc or zip like a image - is correct way? [13:42:01] s/bur/but [13:42:05] solshark__: yes, all files are "images" [13:42:14] for historical readsons. [13:42:24] duesentrieb: my network blocks port 25 for all host except our smtp server [13:42:31] Thx for help. [13:42:55] asmarin: so? [13:43:00] so to send email i need to configure my server like a email client using a authenticated user of "official" smtp server.....the only one allowed to send and receive for port 25 [13:44:05] yes... just put the login into into $wgSMTP. or don't use smtp directly and run an MTA on the webserver [13:45:05] but this is for smtp only...can i configure with TLS too? so bad to send wiki password on plain text [13:45:08] duesentrieb [13:46:26] you want what exactly? SMTP over TLS? [13:46:29] yepa [13:46:46] don't know if that's supported. anyway... zhe communication is only going from your webserver to your mail server [13:46:48] so bad to send a password reminder or similar with a email on plain text [13:46:49] so it shouldn't matter [13:46:54] hm? [13:47:17] err - password reminder? i think you are confused about what a TLS connection actually does... [13:47:25] it doesn't encrypt the mail you'll get, you know [13:47:26] im on a university...so many "padawans" are for here you know.... [13:47:43] jajajaja [13:47:49] talking about jedis... [13:47:54] right [13:47:56] Hi Guys, Can anyone tell me where I can find the "Top content" box, is it an extension? [13:48:33] and exists any extension for upgrade email functionality? [13:49:00] JediMaster, Top content" box? [13:49:57] Soroush81: all the wikia wikis seem to have it on each one [13:50:26] one more bit, concerning $wgNamespaceProtection I have array( 'emailconfirmed' );. This works if the user has "1" set in user_email_authenticated in the user table in sql [13:50:47] what do i use instead of emailconfirmed for any user? simply 'user' didn't work [13:51:35] Soroush81: for instance: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki -> the box under the banner [13:51:46] on the right [13:53:14] JediMaster, let me see [13:54:07] i checked the wikimedia faq.... is the default mediawiki installation 'certified' as accessible against wai, us section 508, etc.? [13:54:09] JediMaster, it usese it own skin [13:54:35] im looking for a general accessiblity statement for mediawiki [13:54:40] it can be done in an extension+skin or just in the skin [13:54:42] Soroush81: so it's part of the main skin's .php? [13:55:15] JediMaster, You can have arbitarary skin for your mediawiki [13:55:35] JediMaster, what you usually see is monobook [13:55:49] for example see: http://nesampad.ir [13:55:51] yes I know, I'm building my own, I would have thought that that functionality was a common extenion, rather than part of the skin [13:56:51] JediMaster, then you should write an extension [13:57:09] that extesion should give you most visited and... [13:57:40] some features for rating articles and... it might need several extensions [13:58:44] JediMaster: See list of installed extensions there: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Version [13:58:48] ricks99: ot'S oss software, and permanently under developtment. it's not ceritfied in any way. there was a accessibility assesment a while back, which didn't turn out to great. things have improved, but it's not perfect. [13:59:58] Soroush81: ahh there's the widget: "WidgetTopContent" [14:00:26] duesentrieb: tx. r there any accessibility extensions that would help? i know mediawiki produces valid html & css ( a good start) [14:00:50] do u happen to shown where the accessiblity statement is located? searching on mediawiki i couldnt find it [14:01:40] ricks99: there's no official statement. i don't remember where the study ended up... would probably have to dig through the mail archives. could have been 2005, so it's pretty outdated anyway [14:02:09] ricks99: an accessibility extension wouldn't make sense. accessibility has to be supported everywhere any output is generated. [14:02:18] Soroush81: how do you get the code for a widget, being a GPL project and all, there really should be somewhere to download it [14:02:31] sorry, i meant an extension [14:02:50] JediMaster, I don't know. You might need to search [14:02:57] to check for accessilbity [14:03:41] Nikerabbit, Was that code enough helpful or you need more explaination [14:04:08] Nikerabbit, If you want I can write the program for it in php [14:04:09] ricks99: hm? how would that work? byone the standard tools you can find at w3c etc? anyway, mediawiki does *not* always generate valid html, sadly - you can tell it to use tidy to do cleanup, but not even that isa guarantee. [14:04:41] ricks99: masically: run some wikipedia articles through the standard checkers and see if it's good enough for you. that's the best info you'll likely get. [14:04:54] k. tx for the help [14:05:00] 03raymond * r26838 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesRu.php: [14:05:00] * (bug 11647) Update Russian translations [14:05:00] Patch by Alexander Sigachov [14:05:15] 03(FIXED) Russian translation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:06:24] Soroush81: ugh [14:09:49] Nikerabbit, so you want a more documentated code or you aren't eager in adding this support? [14:13:29] only sysops are allowed to add users. sysop adds user "by email". email is sent, user gets temp password. logs in, creates new password. but user_email_authenticated in the user table is still "NULL". how come? [14:28:24] Soroush81: it could help [14:28:30] I'm still thinking [14:28:46] MinuteElectron, hiya :) [14:29:48] good afternoon [14:30:01] Nikerabbit, Thanks. Please tell me whatever you need, whenever you were free [14:30:55] tim starling wrote the current code, perhaps he has opinion about it [14:31:35] till starling [14:32:45] ? [14:47:03] ugh [15:25:58] morning. working on setting up a wiki for our developers. I've created namespaces, BUT I tried to create a couple name spaces before I added them to LocalSettings, now those namespaces are screwed up. Has anyone else done this before? [15:27:02] by screwed up, I mean the content is now under the discussion tab, and the article tab, which should be showing the name of the namespace, is showing the name of a different namespace [15:33:01] to block anonymous users editing the pages, i have to use $wgGroupPermission? [15:33:17] Yep. [15:33:21] !userrights [15:33:26]