[00:07:59] hm [00:08:11] why isn't being excluded from rate limits just a user permission? [00:24:49] NotACow, I guess random suckitude? [00:24:58] *Simetrical looks to see what it is [00:24:58] hey Simetrical... [00:26:01] *qsheets still can't get mediawiki to print the skin name [00:27:09] if i have a wgGroupPermissions array.. is there any way i can disable users being able to view the actual history of a pagE? [00:27:49] qsheets, what's wrong with $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName()? [00:28:18] Xagel, unless you delete it or get an extension, no. [00:28:27] hmm, well i'm using lockdown.. [00:28:44] *Simetrical looks for Duesentrieb and finds him absent [00:28:46] i bet i can do it in that [00:30:31] Simetrical: i was jsut rewriting that code and it looks perfectly sensible to treat it as a user right [00:31:21] would $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_PROJECT]['history'] = array('sysop'); work? [00:31:42] Xagel, I don't know anything about Lockdown. Try it and see. :) [00:32:21] hehe, yea i guess trial and error's the only way.. [00:32:41] so theres no other way to disable certain actions? [00:33:35] Not in the core software. [00:33:59] Generally speaking, anyone who can view a page can view its history. We make no distinction in the software proper. [00:34:06] AFAIR anyway. [00:34:07] Simetrical: it prints out nothing [00:34:23] ah ok [00:34:49] qsheets, is $wgUser->getSkin() an object? [00:35:38] *qsheets set that to $theSkin and it printed nothing [00:36:15] 03downchuck * r26914 10/branches/mlmw/includes/Title.php: Fixed namespaces in null language space [00:36:26] qsheets, what do you mean you set it? You can't assign values to the return value of a function. [00:37:03] 03(mod) Don't show "edit with form" tab if user don' t have permissions to edit the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11403 (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [00:37:11] Simetrical: $theSkin = $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName(); [00:38:39] qsheets, is $wgUser->getSkin() an object when you execute that code? Is $wgUser even an object? [00:38:56] idno [00:39:44] all I know is if I don't write the stuff the right way i get an error [00:41:17] qsheets: Try adding a global $wgUser; line at the top of your function. [00:41:49] It is already there [00:41:53] qsheets, if you're programming in PHP, you should really know things like how to tell whether something is an object. I strongly advise that you just read through http://www.php.net/manual/en/ from start to finish (minus the function reference). [00:42:51] Here is what i get when it isn't right: Fatal error: Call to undefined method SkinMonoBook::getSknName() in /var/www/w/... [00:42:59] qsheets, you mistyped it. [00:43:07] I know [00:43:08] It's getSkinName, not getSknName. [00:43:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Darth_Maul [00:43:19] I wonder how many times the image was replaced and then deleted [00:43:34] Hence I said when it ISN'T right [00:43:36] And generally speaking, it's helpful if you immediately give any error messages you get. [00:43:56] qsheets, uh, well, of course you're going to get that error if you mistype it . . .? What happens if you spell it correctly? [00:44:16] I get Nothing but a blank wiki page [00:44:50] Simetrical: did you notice it said the skin, when I mistyped it [00:45:01] Yes . . . [00:45:11] "Maul was kidnapped by the Sith Lord Darth Sidious in infancy, he was once a Jedi at young age but was kidnapped by Sidious." [00:45:25] NotACow: :) [00:46:47] is there any way to delete the history for all pages? [00:49:34] Like maybe a maintenance script or something server side that will wipe them? [00:50:36] Xagel, I think there's a maintenance script somewhere. [00:50:44] Maybe not maintained well. [00:50:48] ah [00:51:06] well is the page history stored in the mysql db somewhere that i can just clear manually? [00:51:52] I think it's the revision and text tables. [00:52:01] Obviously those store current revisions too. [01:04:24] Does the API have a query length limit? [01:04:58] For example, could I ask for data on 2000 titles? ;) [01:13:58] Well, what happens if you try? [01:16:50] I was going to try to, but I'm going to try something a little easier first (making a list based on the titles in a list using the generator). [01:19:07] And... the generator doesn't parse the parameters for the list it uses. -.- [01:19:16] 03nickj * r26915 10/trunk/extensions/MogileClient/MogileFS.php: Add start and end markers for comment. [01:26:23] 03(NEW) Protecting a page hides recent changes to it from watchlists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11750 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (carnildo) [01:26:42] gr33tz all [01:26:58] anyone have any experience setting up a Squid caching server for MediaWiki? [01:27:04] I'm getting pwned. [01:27:30] Sean, not me. More likely some of the people in #wikimedia-tech, should they be alive and helpful (which they probably aren't, on one count or another). [01:28:26] thanks [01:29:16] Can you actually find out what is on the jobs queue? Reason being, have the counter on our wiki stuck on 1, has been for along time, goes up, but wont go below 1. [01:29:28] Wondering if there is actually something there, or the counter is out? [01:30:15] 03nickj * r26916 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): svn eol native [01:31:44] @Dr_DBW [01:32:03] connect to your t3h database, and do a "SELECT (*) FROM wiki_job" or whatever your tablename is [01:32:10] might just be "job" [01:32:12] if you're not sure [01:32:15] do a "SHOW TABLES" [01:32:35] Thanks Sean :-) ... off to phymyadmin .... [01:32:43] no problemo [01:35:27] It is "job", and it returns empty result. So there are no jobs in there. [01:35:35] Dr_DBW, the counter is deliberately inaccurate in recent versions. [01:35:45] For speed, on large InnoDB tables. [01:36:12] SELECT COUNT(*) FROM table; is slow on InnoDB, so it switched to a heuristic that's usually wrong. [01:36:25] Ahh, OK. Thanks. [01:36:49] Wasn't really worried about it, just thought it weird that it never reached zero. [01:39:00] FYI, I had a question on the Suppord desk about this, just adding that information there for future reference. [01:39:42] what about select count(1)? [01:40:29] well, that'll always return "1" won't it? [01:40:44] soo... pretty fast ;) [01:40:53] haha [01:41:18] NotACow, "SELECT tables optimized away" [01:42:09] i meant "select count(1) from table;" [01:45:57] oh neato [01:45:59] what's that do? [01:46:12] it seems faster [01:47:18] It selects the number "1". [01:47:31] Generally speaking, it's not especially helpful without a WHERE clause. [01:47:41] And a LIMIT clause. [01:47:50] Actually, sorry, it selects the number "1" for each row in the table. [01:48:05] Which is to say, it returns a list of "1"s that's as long as the table. [01:48:16] it runs a lot faster than count(*) [01:49:09] check it.... [01:49:12] Wait, dammit. [01:49:15] COUNT(1). [01:49:16] mysql> select count(1) from wiki_page; [01:49:16] +----------+ [01:49:16] | count(1) | [01:49:16] +----------+ [01:49:16] | 523698 | [01:49:16] +----------+ [01:49:18] 1 row in set (0.86 sec) [01:49:20] mysql> select count(*) from wiki_page; [01:49:21] o_O [01:49:22] +----------+ [01:49:24] | count(*) | [01:49:26] +----------+ [01:49:27] *Simetrical checks it [01:49:28] | 523699 | [01:49:30] +----------+ [01:49:32] 1 row in set (1.12 sec) [01:49:38] w00t [01:49:48] hmm... that thing's getting big [01:49:58] I better figure out this Squid thing [01:50:10] *Simetrical clearly isn't so clever tonight, missed the COUNT entirely [01:50:21] mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM page; [01:50:22] +----------+ [01:50:22] | COUNT(*) | [01:50:22] +----------+ [01:50:22] | 10661705 | [01:50:22] +----------+ [01:50:24] 1 row in set (3.42 sec) [01:50:26] mysql> SELECT COUNT(1) FROM page; [01:50:29] +----------+ [01:50:30] | COUNT(1) | [01:50:33] +----------+ [01:50:35] | 10661736 | [01:50:38] +----------+ [01:50:41] 1 row in set (3.47 sec) [01:50:43] Same query, same time. [01:50:45] 0.86 vs. 1.12 isn't a big difference, probably a fluke. [01:50:51] yeh could be [01:50:58] your database is massive... what wiki is that [01:51:14] AboutUs or something? [01:51:19] The English Wikipedia. [01:51:24] orly [01:51:27] that explains it [01:51:28] ya rly. [01:51:40] Somewhat outdated, admittedly. The toolserver. [01:52:41] Read-only access. [01:52:59] Mainly used for, well, running weird random queries like this. [01:53:05] neato [01:53:12] Also, restricted, no passwords or stuff. [01:53:17] But yeah, it's Wikipedia all right. [02:02:54] 03(mod) LanguageHy cleanup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11731 +comment (10teak.wiki) [02:14:00] w00t [02:14:17] w00t what? [02:14:34] *stefw contributes a random w00t [02:14:38] i just eliminated a bunch of PHP array classes from my project [02:14:45] woo hoo! [02:16:10] time to commit [02:18:16] *NotACow tries to figure out how to replace $wgAddGroups [02:18:35] looks like HashMap> [02:31:59] 03(NEW) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (alexey.wmd) [03:05:05] Is there an easy way to copy over the PD help pages over entirely to my site? [03:07:24] Yep. [03:07:33] How so? [03:07:40] [03:08:17] Thanks. [03:08:38] Welcome. [03:08:48] *Pathoschild wonders if mwbot has that. [03:08:51] !help [03:08:51] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. There's not much documentation on me, but you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [03:09:26] !list [03:09:30] !all [03:11:24] whee [03:16:20] Hmm [03:16:31] For some reason the languagese part isn't importing right [03:16:35] Or is missing something [03:17:44] anyone here ever configure a squid server to work with more than one Apache running MediaWiki? [03:21:57] 105,995 lines now [03:21:59] whee [03:22:53] 03river * r26917 10/trunk/tools/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [03:22:53] addlog: add help, allow trivial (greyed out) entries [03:22:53] jiraclient: basic command-line jira client [03:23:38] @NotACow what is 105k lines... the whole MediaWiki project? [03:36:23] is HistoryBlobStub actually used for anything? [03:37:18] oh, wait, there it is [04:11:05] yikes [04:11:22] I seem to have forgotten my admin password [04:11:51] is the MediaWiki admin password the same as teh database login/password? [04:14:17] 03(mod) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858 (10mapellegrini) [04:17:29] anyone? [04:25:12] No, you configure it seperately. [04:26:25] Although you can reset it from the database. [04:27:46] And I think there is a script to do it in the maintenance folder [04:29:49] 03(mod) Add feature annotate/blame command, to indicate who last changed each line / word - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639 (10inedible_bulk) [04:31:19] 03nickj * r26918 10/trunk/extensions/ (17 files in 4 dirs): svn eol native [04:35:24] Pathoschild: where in the database can I reset it? [04:35:35] User ID 1 is the admin, right? [04:35:46] No idea. I just know it's possible. [04:36:04] Is userid 1 the admin? [04:36:16] The password is not md5...I don't know what it is [04:36:28] ..using for encryption [04:37:20] is there any wiki-text -> full url() html parser/function... ie html with absolute links instead of relative? [05:22:00] {{fullurl: }} [05:44:36] $wgLogo = "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/mediawiki.png"; [05:44:45] in localsetting.php [05:45:00] even logo is not going to be display [05:45:40] can nyboly tell me where i'll make changes to display my logo [05:46:25] amita: isn't that in the FAQ, listed in the topic? [05:48:39] it is there [05:48:54] and only this much information is given there [06:04:22] amita: Erm .. do you have the logo you want uploaded at styles/common/images/mediawiki.png? As that's where the default logo is. [06:04:33] You need to set $wgLogo to the path of the logo you want [06:09:22] 03(NEW) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #59, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11752 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (shinjiman) [06:09:40] thanx now its displaying [06:14:51] 03raymond * r26919 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [06:14:51] * (bug 11752) Update Chinese translations [06:14:51] Patch by Shinjiman [06:17:27] 03(FIXED) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #59, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11752 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [06:27:12] hello guys [06:27:32] I am a bit concerned about indexing the whole topics in my installaion under google [06:27:34] any cles? [06:27:38] clues [06:51:42] robots.txt maybe, if you want to prevent it? [06:57:45] Any ideas why
is not being "let through" to the bowser? [06:58:06] works fine on wikinews for instance. [06:58:43] i.e this just shows up as plain text [06:59:05] where as
does not [07:17:13] 03raymond * r26920 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDe.php: * Update German [07:33:22] favicon.ico where i get this icon in my wiki folder [07:33:55] i think it is not there or can i use any other imgae with .jpg or png extention [07:46:58] speak some body german @mediawiki ? my english is to bed to ask in english.... [07:53:36] 14(INVALID) LanguageHy cleanup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11731 +comment (10alexander.sigachov) [07:54:01] *MinuteElectron has the sudden inspiration to rip out the skin system and replace it while lying in bed this morning. [07:54:29] hmm, nobody german here? so ein try it in english ;-) ... I install mediawiki on my site. if I want to upload mht files, I get an error, something about "script" .. "could be security risk".... how can I set this off? [07:55:52] <_wooz> lo [07:57:33] miki11: Add this to the end of your LocalSettings.php http://paste2.org/p/8673 [08:01:57] @MinuteElectron are you sure? this blocks files!! [08:02:21] miki11: I am sure, mht is blocked by default, this changes the defaults so mht is not blocked. [08:05:45] I have try it, but I get the same error "Diese Datei enthält HTML- oder Scriptcode der irrtümlich von einem Webbrowser ausgeführt werden könnte." [08:06:13] ok [08:06:19] I don't know then, that should work. [08:07:38] ok thx [08:09:19] the error in english should sound like "This file contains HTML or script code of the mistake by a web browser could be executed." [08:10:02] can anybody help me, with this problem?? [08:40:17] 03(NEW) LuceneSearch does not recognize custom namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11753 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (pathoschild) [08:44:03] favicon.ico where i get this icon in my wiki folder, i think it is not there or can i use any other imgae with .jpg or png extention [08:44:18] nybody help me [08:44:33] i'll help you [08:45:15] but only if you help me bring down the fascist joke of a government where i live in a way that results in 90% of the population dying in a fire [08:46:51] *Pathoschild watchlists laowai. [08:47:10] I was just looking for something interesting to watch. [08:49:52] im having what we expats term a "bad china day" or "BCD" [08:50:24] one of those days where if you had a gun you would solve the overpopulation issues [08:53:37] *MinuteElectron brags about how much success he is having to irritate laowai. [08:54:54] im having success too, i just hate chinese people [08:54:57] there, i said it [08:55:06] it took 4 years to realize, but there it is [08:55:28] haha [08:55:42] i see them the same way i see monkeys... well, lower than monkeys [08:55:48] managing them is like herding cats [08:56:09] you can train a monkey at least [09:00:14] anyone know how i can move the TOC to the nav sidebar? [09:19:56] re [09:24:44] http://thegoreyears.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/obama-says-hell-nuke-china-if-it-helps-him-get-elected/ [09:24:50] ELECT THIS MAN [09:25:23] 03kim * r26921 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (App.php OmegaWiki/Copy.php OmegaWiki/SpecialCopy.php): Some debugging [09:27:02] :;) [09:56:29] hi there ... I want to restrict edit pages to registered users. I have read that I need to edit Local $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [09:57:43] I have changed LocalSettings.php to this but ... it still allows to edit anonymous users [09:58:31] pengol, wierd [10:00:59] I have put the comment right before ?> [10:01:06] remove the ?> [10:02:12] didn't help [10:02:25] MinuteElectron, What happens when ?> is removed from end of file? [10:02:41] should I restart something after editing LocalSettings.php [10:02:52] nothing, it just stops other errors creaping in, generally we advise all users to remove the ?> and it is no longer put in by default. [10:02:56] pengol: nope [10:03:13] MinuteElectron: is there a log i can check? [10:03:16] MinuteElectron, thanks [10:03:16] no [10:03:35] so what? [10:04:00] can you pastebin your localsettings.php with passwords etc. removed? [10:04:02] !pastebin [10:04:02] Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [10:05:53] 14(WFM) LuceneSearch does not recognize custom namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11753 +comment (10rainman) [10:06:13] P [10:10:50] MinuteElectron: http://rafb.net/p/a0lunj57.html [10:11:22] you're using the debian package? [10:11:42] yes [10:11:47] why? [10:11:54] ugh [10:12:05] what does that mean? [10:12:12] :) [10:12:26] Don't. We have no idea what Debian has done to MediaWiki so generally we can't give you any help if things don't work. [10:12:48] That should work and the only reason I can see that it doens't is because of something debian has done. [10:13:15] Go complain to the package manager or upgrade to real MediaWiki. ;) [10:20:38] MinuteElectron: there are multiple version of mediawiki installed ... it is simply reading another configuration file [10:21:22] so? the actual code could have been messed aroung with - noone knows. [10:30:40] now it is reading the correct file [10:30:57] there were mediawiki1.7,1.9,1.10 [10:31:07] it was reading 1.7 directory [10:31:11] hahaha, this is why you don't use debian packages [10:31:33] MinuteElectron: the problem is that I'm unning unstable [10:31:44] 1.7 != unstable [10:32:04] MinuteElectron: debian unstable [10:32:09] not mediawiki unstable : [10:32:11] :) [10:32:16] still, you should really upgrade to real mediawiki [10:32:33] MinuteElectron: is there a way to enable a mail authorization for new users? [10:32:43] yes, but i can't remember how to [12:33:47] how i change the Title "Main Page - (sitename)" [12:34:38] Edit Mediawiki:mainpage [12:34:41] edit monobook.php [12:35:03] eh [12:35:26] Mediawiki:pagetitle for all pages, some hack if for main page only [12:35:32] Edit Mediawiki:mainpage ?????? [12:35:57] [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] [12:36:24] it changes the name of main page (yes, which affect the title too, but...) [12:37:10] it really depends what amita wants to change exactly [12:43:59] 03proes * r26922 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/Database scripts/Convenience/Create wikidata.php: [12:43:59] Create a user with an actual user_name that equals the real_user_name. Previously the user would have been created with the -comment as its user name! [12:43:59] Please review this change. [12:55:58] hi. I have a question; does anyone knows if it is possible to show a random article with the first few sentences, on any HTML page outside of my own mediawiki? [12:59:38] sure, Special:Random, and then pull out the first few sentences with some code of your own [13:00:27] yeah ok, I figured that, but I have no idea what code of my own I should use to show the first sentences of the random article :P [13:00:58] And I was looking on the mediawiki site, but I couldn't find it [13:01:46] hi [13:02:55] can i insert $wgLocalTimeZone && $wgLocalTZoffset in LocalSettings.php or am o forced to insert it into /include/DefaultSettings.php ? [13:03:15] and should those 2 values work per se after an apache reload ? [13:05:56] odb|fidel_: LocalSettings.php , no Apache reload needed. [13:05:57] odb|fidel_,never edit /include/DefaulSettings.php [13:06:17] NEVER EVER EVER EVER EDIT DefaultSettings.php [13:06:25] ok :D [13:06:34] :P [13:06:48] odb, just change LocalSettings.php. It can do anything [13:07:03] ok thank you guys [13:07:17] MinuteElectron (or someone else), do you perhaps have an idea on my problem :)? Where I can find that code? [13:07:30] i just prefered asking, as my old docu 1.07 times still linked me to DefaultSettings [13:07:31] you have to make it yourself [13:08:08] hmm that's to bad :(. I was hoping there would be some documentation on that somewhere on the internet [13:09:35] regarding $wgLocalTimeZone ...="Europe/Berlin"; for germany, right ? [13:09:43] and +120 as offset i guess [13:10:13] BeachBoy, It needs an extension [13:10:50] can someone recommend a "normal" wysiwyg editor that supports creating tables easily? [13:10:59] that is also relatively easy to install [13:11:10] BeachBoy, I haven't seen any extension does that [13:11:25] ok... well thanks for helping anyway :) [13:12:05] BeachBoy, If you want you can wirte the extension :) [13:12:28] another thing i was wondering. I have an infobox, with some variables. But when I leave some of them blank, they show up as red. I have parserfunctions installed, but that didn't help :( [13:12:55] soroush83, lol thanks, perhaps i'll try that sometimes, when I have more spare time :P [13:13:20] BeachBoy, Is it a public wiki? [13:14:08] nope, not yet. It used to work though, but after installing parserfunctions it became messed up. Then i deleted parserfunctions, but it remained the same [13:14:29] Skaag: I doubt that something like that exists. And it's hard to combine since a wysiwig editor is totally independent of Databasedesigns. [13:15:03] I understand it's unrelated to the database, that the way it's done is that the html is translated to wiki format, and then it's saved the standard way [13:16:09] BeachBoy, it might be because the version of your parser functions is buggy [13:16:30] the changes do work. Thanks again [13:16:32] Skaag: i am confused. Why should HTML be translated to wiki markup? What do you want to do? [13:16:53] ok... well I'll try and upload another version then... thanks for your help :) [13:16:54] creating tables in wiki markup is intimidating for beginners in my team [13:17:01] to say the least [13:17:03] have to go now, bye :) [13:17:06] Skaag: Ah! [13:17:09] confusing, and difficult [13:17:17] I want to try and make it easy for them :-) [13:17:18] Skaag: sorry. i was deeply confused. [13:17:26] they see me making tables and they are all jealous [13:17:35] Skaag: i thought you are speaking of database tables. *plonk* [13:17:38] bye bye [13:17:42] ah no, sorry about that [13:21:38] PunkRock: so any good solution for that? :-) [13:22:35] Skaag, Do you want to use raw html in pages? [13:22:53] 03(mod) autoConvert() should use StubObject::isRealObject() instead of isset() in LanguageConverter.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11751 (10Eugene.Zelenko) [13:22:56] I want my users to have some button that helps them make tables easily [13:23:01] I don't know how it could be done [13:23:17] Skaag, Why don't you use wiki tools? [13:23:24] what's that? [13:24:38] adds a button to top of your text area which adds sth [13:25:12] Skaag, some wikipedias use more tools than usual ones [13:26:46] cool! so there's one that helps you create tables easily? [13:26:52] Skaag, See http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandbox&action=edit for example [13:27:03] it has more buttons than en.wikipedia [13:27:33] nice!!! [13:27:33] they have been added by changing mediawiki:monobook.js [13:27:36] how do I install this? :-) [13:27:45] it is called wiki tools [13:27:59] cool man, thanks, this is perfect [13:28:08] actually I'm glad it's not wysiwyg, I want them to learn the format [13:28:14] but this will help them when they forget the markup [13:28:17] Skaag, first set $wgUseSiteJs = true; in LocalSettings.php [13:29:43] Skaag, yes. it is not WY [13:29:49] WYSIWYG [13:30:02] very good [13:31:23] it is sth helps editing easier. You can make it easier by writting your own scripts [13:51:05] 03fredck * r26924 10/trunk/extensions/FCKeditor/ (495 files in 58 dirs): Initial import of FCKeditor extension. [13:52:02] i hate character sets [13:52:11] why can't we just have one? [13:52:43] hehe [13:55:37] i'm starting to deal with the fact that String is not an array of bytes. [13:56:03] in php, a string IS an array of bytes, which leads to overloading strings. [13:58:48] but thats no suprise is it? it's the same as in c or c++ [13:58:51] holy cow [13:58:56] 495 files [13:59:23] heh [13:59:25] what? where? [13:59:28] NotACow: stick to unicode and you have only one :o [13:59:37] MinuteElectron: cia few lines up [13:59:46] oh, lol [14:03:44] Nikerabbit: no, you have UTF-8, UTF-16LE, UTF-16BE, and UCS-32 [14:04:42] 03mulligen * r26925 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/Database scripts/Convenience/ (3 files): update to latest database scheme [14:05:21] bleep [14:09:29] NotACow: it's still the same character set [14:09:33] just different encoding [14:12:55] 03nikerabbit * r26926 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (5 files): [14:12:55] * some bugfixes [14:12:55] * new special page [14:39:01] 14(DUP) Wikipedia doesn' t handle percent-encoding of forward slashes in certain URLs properly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11735 +comment (10brion) [14:39:02] 03(mod) Slash (/) entered as %2F causes 404 file not found error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204 +comment (10brion) [14:42:01] hi all! Is it possible to configure mediawiki to allow to edit javascript files as well as wikitext? [14:49:28] Osias: what javascript? [14:53:55] hi, Nikerabbit, mine. I intend to create js files as part of the wiki and edit them there, see edit history for them, etc [14:54:35] Osias: if you don't plan to execute them directly, I think you can put them inside [14:54:57] I plan to execute them [14:55:22] I intend to have a page with tags [14:56:43] then you just can the page name .js dont you?? [14:56:48] let me check [14:57:42] but if so, mediawiki will put a lot of html on it [14:58:30] if called on wiki its fine [14:58:34] sorry got to run now [14:58:43] hi [14:59:34] hi [15:34:07] Are Eloy here? [15:34:13] Tech of Wikia? [15:34:26] or inex? [15:34:29] inez? [15:53:08] Zizanzu: try #wikia for that [16:21:55] Aha [16:22:57] 03(NEW) Namespace filter in Special:Linksearch - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11754 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (matthew.britton) [16:24:11] 14(DUP) Namespace filter in Special:Linksearch - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11754 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:24:12] 03(mod) Namespace filter in Special:Linksearch on WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:30:36] Hi. I have a problem with my MediaWiki. When I use $wgUseTidy my main page gets an error... Does anyone knows how to fix this :)? [16:31:11] it said it got a parser.php error [16:47:10] 03(mod) Redirect table is missing 1 million entries (~50%) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10931 summary; +comment (10john.lehmann) [16:56:21] 03vrandezo * r26927 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Changed the underlying ontology from SMW to SWIVT [17:00:31] 03(mod) Don't show "edit with form" tab if user don' t have permissions to edit the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11403 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [17:08:35] re [17:11:18] question, i made some changes to my mysql config and the FULLTEXT indexes need to be rebuit... what's the easiest way to do this? what tables have FULLTEXT? [17:20:06] Hi everybody [17:22:48] 03nikerabbit * r26928 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc: * Few messages to the optional list [17:24:05] 03nikerabbit * r26929 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFi.php: * Updates [17:25:53] 03nikerabbit * r26930 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFi.php: * Syntax terror [17:30:03] someone experienced with template:languages? I`am trying to get a language bar as mediawiki got but it`s driving me nuts :-= [17:32:59] 03(NEW) Form fails for mandatory fields in multiple-instance templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11755 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (yaron57) [17:36:36] i have a confusing issue [17:36:48] well, i have several issues. one of them is about something on Wikipedia [17:37:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Blockip/72.167.41.103 [17:37:27] why does this page only show me unblocking the IP? it didn't show it as ever being blocked, but the block was active and it let me unblock [17:37:45] Julian: side bar or top bar? [17:38:31] the bar on the bottom of some pages if they`re available in more then one language [17:38:46] articel and articel/es as an exampel [17:39:50] {{Language|articel}} - installed ParserFunctions but it don`t seem to work fine [17:43:20] Julian: Side or bottom? [17:43:43] 03nikerabbit * r26931 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (messages.inc writeMessagesArray.inc): * Be more robust and do the right thing automatically (with small speed penalty) when quoting messages [17:44:47] bottom [17:45:47] hello. In media wiki, can i have different group of users and each group will have different edit rights to pages? [18:01:12] Hello, is it possible to delete everything created after a certain date? [18:01:33] 03brion * r26932 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: media link option -- for subtitled video links [18:47:58] Is there a blacklist extension for mediawiki? [18:50:05] yes [18:50:09] a blacklist of what? [18:51:19] spammers [18:52:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Usernameblacklist [18:53:16] Does that actually work? [18:53:37] I was thinking of link blacklisting [18:53:42] oh [18:53:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [18:54:01] I have that [18:54:09] Does it require python to use images? [18:54:39] I don't think so, but simple maths usually solves most spam. [18:58:16] I guess it just needs it to generate images, so I don't need it on the server. thanks [19:34:52] 03amidaniel * r26933 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 11721) API: Use a different title for results than for the help page. [19:34:59] 03(FIXED) Better title for results pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11721 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [19:37:32] 03(FIXED) URLs in the help mode double escaped - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11296 (10cannon.danielc) [19:40:48] want to define a template for a linking icon... [19:40:54] [[{{{1}}}|]] [19:41:07] Have set $wgRawHtml = true; [19:41:19] But the <> gets protected... [19:41:24] I am puzzled... [19:41:30] *GasBill scratches head [19:41:55] maybe because it's in a table? [19:42:32] [[{{{1}}}|]] [19:44:44] Hello, I can't find this in the manual. Do all images used in a Wiki HAVE to be uploaded. Can external images still be referenced by scripts and extensions ? [19:46:34] Hmm - thanks - I'll mess with that. [19:49:02] Thank u, ialex - that generated the html I need (doesn't work anyway, but for another reason)... [19:49:22] I had forgotten about the tags. [19:52:07] right this should be a really basic problem but its confusing me [19:52:14] trying to get wiki on a stick sorted [19:52:31] anyone able to help me with it [19:53:15] keep getting connection failed for my sql [19:55:39] is there a better way to use an icon as a link than with as I did? ... [19:56:00] I don't like hardcoding the reference to the image location on the local wiki... [19:56:05] !imagemap | GasBill [19:56:05] GasBill : ImageMap is an extension that allows you to override the default linking behavior of images. See for more information. [19:56:06] seems unportable. [19:56:24] Thank u - I'll look at it. [19:56:25] Markie996: wiki on a stick? [19:56:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_on_a_stick [19:56:55] tried doing it using the WOS way [19:57:10] but i kept on getting the folders minus the .exe file [19:57:18] so i couldnt unpack the damn thing [19:57:24] so i gave up that way [19:57:42] seemed to be going well and then got to the initial wiki configuration page [20:06:20] hmm its not a media wiki problem [20:06:27] seems my mysql server isnt working [20:16:52] hello all [20:17:22] is there a xml-schema that describes the output of api.php ? [20:18:03] Should be, but nope, not really. [20:18:34] doh! [20:19:53] It's fairly consistent though; if you know how one query works, the rest will work about the same [20:22:38] for now, i'm only interested in the logevent [20:23:33] oh well :( [20:33:14] what about dump files, do they have proper xml schemas? [20:35:15] Zapadude: there'S a DTD, yes [20:35:21] they are pretty trivial, though [20:36:09] Zapadude: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Export#DTD [20:36:18] not sure if there's also an "official" DTD. [21:04:43] in #pfsense [21:38:12] 03raymond * r26934 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesEn.php): [21:38:12] * Add comments for optional messages [21:38:12] * updates German [21:47:23] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10alefzet) [21:47:51] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 (10alefzet) [22:07:50] 03raymond * r26935 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_cn.php MessagesKk_kz.php MessagesKk_tr.php): * (bug 10367) Kazakh message updates, by AlefZet [22:08:07] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [22:11:00] 03river * r26936 10/trunk/tools/smf/ (20 files): add Solaris SMF manifests used on toolserver [22:17:53] hello I have a question about special pages [22:18:17] 03(mod) Don't show "edit with form" tab if user don' t have permissions to edit the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11403 (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org) [22:18:24] my question is this: in what order are the entries displayed on a page such as Prefixindex? [22:20:41] hmm, I'm also wondering… why do I see so many people on the sidebar, logged in to this room, yet not a huge amount of activity? [22:23:24] any api folks around? [22:25:02] k… bye for now… [22:30:46] ? [22:37:20] hi all [22:37:30] is there a way to have short url working with colon (special:...) on an apache win server ? [22:41:39] <|alp|> hello [22:41:46] <|alp|> i just installed mediawiki [22:41:52] <|alp|> and i dont find the admin panel [22:41:56] <|alp|> where is it? [22:44:58] |alp|: there's some special pages only available for admins, but aside from that LocalSettings.php is your friend [22:45:31] khatahn: no admin panel? Oo [22:46:50] depends on what exactly should admin panel do? [22:48:40] khatahn: it was the special page about user rights [22:48:55] khatahn: its quite unfamiliar no to have a panel with all possible settings [22:49:38] yeah, i guess so. in any case all the configuration settings can be found in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings [22:52:24] Alp`: well... it's quite common for "real" software to use files for configuration :) anyway, an "admin panel" is planned (by someone, i guess), but there has to go a bit of thought into making it safe [22:52:44] generally, making crucial settings available via the web (even id preotected by a password) is critical [22:53:04] remember that passwords are easy to sniff if you are not using https [22:53:16] and sessions can be hijacked, too [22:53:19] yep thats right [22:53:25] i was just wondering [22:53:50] some things could probably be made available over we web ui. [22:53:55] changing the logo, etc [22:54:13] changing group permissions... might be dangerous [22:57:47] plz, anyone has an idea on how to have short url with colon working on windows ? (apache see a colon as a drive mapping :S) [23:00:55] I found http://smart-pad.blogspot.com/2007/01/colon-causes-apache-403-error-on.html but it doesnt help [23:07:23] A2`: it's an apache problem. ask in #apache [23:12:13] ok thx l'll try there [23:23:20] Hi, I'd like to extend the mediawiki sidebar functionality, where should I start looking for how to do that? [23:28:46] Taldor1: in Skin.php or SkinTemplate.php - and probably the individual skins too [23:29:27] Taldor1: Extend it how? [23:29:36] 03(NEW) Allow blocked users to edit their own talk page on huwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11756 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (gtisza) [23:31:31] Pathoschild: I'd like to be able to use the same syntax for the sidebar links as on normal pages