[00:00:27] if you use the superuser account, mediawiki will assign the required permissions to the user you specify (IIRC) [00:00:38] hmm [00:00:48] 03(mod) Add [[Special:History/Page]] and [[Special:Edit/Page]] as functional internal wiki links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11456 +comment (10danny_b) [00:01:05] should my database host be my website? or my IP address? [00:01:58] Basically, I've switched hosts and I'm setting up this wiki but I haven't published it yet. So right now, instead of jastewart.co.uk it is just an IP address [00:02:56] "localhost" should be fine, if mysql is on the same machine as MediaWiki [00:03:35] lol: Installation successful! [00:03:41] it's the address the db will be reachable from the application host (Apache/PHP) [00:03:52] Thank you very much BrokenArrow, you've been very helpful :D [00:04:14] JAStewart: you are welcome, enjoy. (gtg now, 2 o'clock her!) [00:04:21] wait [00:04:22] one more thing [00:04:39] it says to move the config/localsettings.php file to the parent directory [00:04:50] does this just mean moving it up a folder [00:05:11] ? [00:06:55] yes [00:07:07] it wont let me :s [00:07:42] Should I be moving it up from /config/ to /public_html? [00:07:45] "it" being whom? didn't you have permissions to write there= [00:07:46] ? [00:08:41] yes I have permissions for everything.. [00:09:04] does it HAVE to be moved before I can access my wiki? [00:09:30] if the installer does not fint it in the main dir, it will ask you for the initial config forever [00:09:51] but you can leave a copy in /config/ too, it won't matter [00:10:24] just as long as a localsettings.php is in the parent folder [00:10:52] LocalSettings.php yep [00:11:04] damn it won't let me copy it, or move it [00:11:11] I am logged in, and with the correct details [00:14:00] hmm [00:14:03] I'm confused. [00:14:38] don't know how I can help, it's not a MW issue [00:15:04] Oh well, you've been a great help anyway. Cheers [00:15:36] night! [00:28:11] can svg image be used as site-logo? = does it goes through classical rendering process, or bitmap is necessary? [00:36:36] Danny_B, it's put in a CSS background-image value. However, if you upload it as SVG to the wiki, you can then make the resulting bitmap your logo. [00:36:51] sure [01:24:20] Does anyone know of an extension that would email any wiki user that hadn't looked at the wiki in a specified period of time? I'm PHP fluent enough to modify an existing one that's similar, if such exists. [01:26:15] w3: unles you compress your transfers [01:31:40] sacolcor, you would probably be best off running a totally independent script from cron. Just check the database yourself whenever you want to run the script: the schema is mostly pretty obvious. [01:34:06] Simetrical: Hrm, sadly, my SQL-fu is not particularly storng. I did look at the schema; is there a better field than user_touched? That appears to note the last edit by a user, but I'd really like to look at the last time any page was served to a user. [01:36:07] For context: It's a private wiki with only 6 users, running an RPG; I need to remind the players when they forget to check on the game. [01:37:07] I guess you will need to modify the login function to track user's last login [01:37:13] who wants to hear something REALLY AWESOME? [01:37:18] and then use that for your cron job [01:38:32] thisislobo: I thought about that, but would it work if they keep a persistent cookie, so they don't have to log in? [01:40:25] sacolcor, generally last login isn't tracked in the database, I don't think. You maybe want to use a hook that runs on every page view, somewhere in the software after the user is initialized. Then just write it out to wherever you like. [01:41:27] sacolcor: are your users going to be anonymous? Only then do you need a cookie [01:41:52] If they are going to login, then every time they log in, store the timestamp in the database [01:42:07] thisislobo, eh? Logged-in users use a cookie. They kind of have to, to track their login. [01:42:15] Oh, I think I see. [01:42:36] The point is you want to track the page views, cookies and sessions are neither here nor there. Let MediaWiki initialize the User object and grab the name off it. [01:45:24] Yes, if last login is not a reliable approximation for last pageview, then you'll need to write that hook [01:45:45] thisislobo: The problem is that if they visit when they've already got a cookie, they don't specifically log in - it's like they've just stayed logged in since their last visit...but I *do* want that to reset the timer. I think Simetrical's suggestion might work, though. [01:47:59] *goes to read about how to make a PHP script run a shell script, and then allocates as least as long to learn how to do it without creating a massive security hole*. [01:48:33] sacolcor: if the script itself doesn't open any security holes when it's run by the Apache user, then neither will running it from PHP [01:48:43] especially if it doesn't take user-provided input [01:49:51] Kurt: Good point. That was just a gut instinct, above. [01:51:13] Thanks, folks. [01:52:32] did anyone catch the reference to "Triumph of the Will" on tonight's Office? [01:52:33] I about fell off the couch [01:59:10] *Simetrical has heard of neither Triumph of the Will nor Office [01:59:12] *Simetrical goes to bed [02:00:07] n8 [02:29:35] anyone know how to get more than 100 versions with [[Special:Export]], or at least how to correctly get the next batch of 100 after the first? [03:05:24] hello [03:05:44] I so ronery [03:14:00] does mediawiki need just the libary to use rsvg, or the binary too? [03:16:30] sorry, having internet issues [03:29:55] I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to hack it so that tags can be inside of templates but processed where the template is included? [03:30:52] you mean like.. being used on more than one page? [03:31:00] NedScott: Yes [03:31:14] So, if I have a Template:Foo and Template:Bar containing ..., I can do "First sentence.{{foo}} Second sentence.{{bar}} [03:31:24] And not have them both be [1] :) [03:31:30] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8693 [03:31:50] hmm [03:32:30] An 'unsupported' and 'untested' patch exists, but you could tweak it possibly [03:33:26] jamie_hari: Yeah, I rather try to avoid such patches on production wikis :) [03:33:40] Was hoping there may be someway to trick the parser without modifying it directly [03:33:47] you asked for a 'hack'! ;) [03:33:54] jamie_hari: Hehe .. true :) [03:34:18] I am excited for a future fix for bug 8693 myself... [03:34:19] No, it's a big, complicated bug to solve, obviously -- didn't know if someone had maybe come up with a workaround for the time-being [03:35:10] *amidanie1 votes [03:39:18] NotACow: how dare you call me a liar, when I am no such thing [03:40:38] 03(WONTFIX) change rv{end|start}id to rv{min|max}id - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [03:41:15] *amidanie1 clearly missed the first part of Kurt and NotACow's convo, but is intrigued by the unusual drama in a techie channel [03:41:54] amidanie1: because of a personal vendetta, NotACow has, on her own, decided that I am to be permanently banned from #wikipedia [03:42:01] everyone I talk to agrees it is bullshit [03:42:08] including people whose opinion actually matters in such things [03:42:20] they are trying to get it sorted out with her [03:42:25] she calls me a liar [03:42:27] hey, it's Kurt! [03:42:31] hi Kurt [03:42:35] hi [03:42:47] Aha, i c [03:42:48] how's the trolling going? [03:42:55] what trolling? [03:42:57] *amidanie1 chuckles [03:44:46] yes, I used to rave on and on about Ayn Rand, and that pissed people off [03:44:49] but I haven't done that in years [03:45:08] show me ONE THING I have done, other than that, to deserve this... [03:45:09] ONE THING [03:46:12] *amidanie1 growls at patch [03:49:11] 03amidaniel * r26953 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryAllUsers.php): (bug 11562) API: Added a user_registration parameter/field to the list=allusers query. Patch by Bryan Tong Minh . [03:49:33] 03(FIXED) Adding user_registration to the API - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11562 +patch +reviewed; +comment (10cannon.danielc) [03:50:53] o.O [03:51:05] why kurt banned? [03:51:45] Hey Tim, can I ask if you know anything about the future prospects of an "Image Move" ability? [03:52:26] I heard something about a backend rewrite, but Simmetrical says he was mistaken, and nothing is currently in the works. [03:55:21] the backend work is essentially done, but it doesn't include an image move function [03:55:44] Does it facilitate the future possibility, do you think? [03:56:25] I guess so [03:56:44] although I haven't actually done a poll, I'd dare say it is the most frequently requested improvement... [03:56:51] no, that would be SUL [03:56:55] Much to your (and Brion's) chigrin, I am sure. [03:57:00] SUL? [03:57:12] single user login, shared accounts between wikimedia wikis [03:57:20] ahhh... true [03:57:28] according to the bugzilla vote counts anyway [03:57:45] lol... as if those count. ;) [03:58:04] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?action=wrap&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bugidtype=include&chfieldto=Now&emailassigned_to1=1&emailassigned_to2=1&emailcc2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords_type=allwords&long_desc_type=substring&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&=&votes=5&query_format=advanced&order=bugs.votes,bugs.b [03:58:10] mmm, I think that probably got truncated [03:58:22] No pasting in the channel! hahaha [03:58:28] ouch [03:58:35] http://tinyurl.com/yt6ser [03:58:40] *NotACow is watching woodporn [03:59:10] Almost 2:1! [03:59:28] 03amidaniel * r26954 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php): (bug 11588) API: Preserve document structure for empty dataset in backlinks query. (typo fix) [04:00:59] i so want to turn something [04:01:10] i have a cedar 4x4 cutoff that might be fun to turn [04:01:22] 03(mod) List type queries treat empty datasets inconsistently - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11588 normal->low; +comment (10cannon.danielc) [04:01:49] I don't know why file handling has to be so complicated [04:02:49] well, I guess text handling would be this complicated too if you were forced to use the filesystem as a backend [04:03:16] It can be done though. [04:03:34] of course [04:03:43] 03(mod) session.save_handler being over-ridden - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11613 +need-review +patch (10cannon.danielc) [04:04:31] TimStarling: filesystems are cranky beasts. [04:04:43] Here's hoping for a mysterious/anonymous donation of $100 M to Wikimedia, so you can hire 100 interns to code the little things while you work on the big stuff. [04:04:46] almost as cranky as developers [04:04:55] NotACow: hahaha [04:05:06] A whole different order of magnitude [04:07:13] good peoples [04:07:17] my major project at the moment is cortado [04:07:34] how mights I export a second batch of 100 versions with [[Special:Export]] [04:07:39] at least the upload system works as advertised, it's feature-poor rather than buggy [04:07:41] offset doesn't seem to work anymore [04:07:58] Stable code is always preferable.... [04:10:21] Ugg ... grep -Ri 'nrecognised value for parameter' includes/api/ [04:10:25] gives me nothing [04:10:36] Where is this error message being made? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action= [04:11:46] Aha, found it .. nvm [04:17:52] did I miss anything? [04:18:24] there's a storm here, the line dropped out so I took the opportunity to get everything properly routed through the surge protector [04:19:08] just as well, it's pretty close now, we're getting some light hail [04:19:14] eek [04:19:16] light hail? [04:19:56] you know, as opposed to the stuff that cracks your roof tiles and dents your car [04:20:31] 5-10mm [04:20:49] TimStarling: i have a plastic car, it doesn't dent. :) [04:21:05] well aren't you lucky [04:21:12] heh [04:21:24] *NotACow loves her saturn [04:21:36] well, it's technically my girlfriend's saturn, but i drive it as much as she does :) [04:24:01] Gaaaaaaaahhhhhh ... I kept refreshing the page and going out of my mind because the content wasn't changing regardless of what I did -- because I was refreshing the page on Wikipedia rather than on my comp .......... [04:24:06] *amidanie1 stabs self for stupidity [04:25:18] how mights I export a second batch of 100 versions with [[Special:Export]] [04:25:18] offset should work still [04:25:22] how are you using it? [04:28:16] ok, I'm placing a lot of faith in this little zener diode [04:28:28] that one came with a crackle [04:41:30] *NotACow decides she is done woodworking for tongiht and undoes her hair [04:56:40] Tim: as shown in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export [04:56:47] 03(NEW) Can not delete images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (x_ray) [04:56:53] note the example link does not work [04:58:01] 03(mod) Can not delete images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [05:00:11] Hey, What's goin' on? [05:00:36] i.e. what can I help w/ [05:01:48] hello [05:01:52] hi [05:01:54] maybe you can help me [05:02:05] what's the problem? [05:02:29] I'm trying to figure out how to export an additional 100 versions using special:export with the offset parameter [05:02:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export [05:02:57] I followed that example [05:03:03] but notice how it doens't work [05:03:11] like the link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export&pages=Main_Page&offset=2002-01-27T20:25:56Z&limit=5&action=submit [05:03:27] b/c it only does on page? [05:03:34] 03(mod) Can not delete images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 (10x_ray) [05:04:11] huh? [05:05:27] Why Doesn't it work?? What are you expecting? [05:05:29] meep? [05:05:40] NotACow: Meep-Meep [05:05:45] well, the last link I posted should give the "next five versions" [05:05:49] but it doesn't [05:06:35] Are you thinking that it just exports the page's contents as text? [05:06:48] no, it should export as xml [05:07:09] it does... [05:07:25] but there's only one version [05:07:28] when you click the link [05:07:31] not five [05:07:39] and it's the current version [05:07:54] NedScott: did you import it into your wiki? [05:08:36] no, but you can tell because there's only one set of tags [05:08:55] I was able to export 100 versions of a given article [05:08:58] and import it [05:09:05] but I want the next 100 versions [05:09:52] kk [05:12:52] NedScott: change the offset [05:12:59] 03(mod) Unknown_action error should return an error object - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11673 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10cannon.danielc) [05:15:38] in what context? [05:15:47] when I use it for the article, I try to offset it by date [05:16:06] so I find the date of the 100th earliest version [05:21:48] try it [05:22:05] or by number [05:24:13] doesn't work [05:24:33] by number, you mean the old ID? [05:26:18] offset from either current or original... [05:26:34] *qsheets doesn't know which is specified [05:26:52] for example [05:27:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Rookie_Digimon_%28Part_1%29&direction=prev&oldid=158382727 [05:27:24] that is the 101th reversion of the article, starting from the newest [05:27:45] if I do a normal export I get the current version up until the version before that one [05:28:07] so now I want that version and 99 other versions starting from there [05:28:17] try offset=101 then [05:28:39] or 100? [05:29:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export&pages=List_of_Rookie_Digimon_(Part_1)&offset=101&limit=100&action=submit [05:29:45] see, it's still showing the most current version [05:29:47] and only one version [05:30:15] g2g... It is 1:30 here... and I have school @ 7:30 [05:30:23] no problem [05:30:26] thanks for trying, though [05:31:00] np [05:38:05] who is downchuck and what is MLMW? [05:43:19] NedScott: offset is a timestamp [05:44:02] not a number [05:44:09] I thought so [05:44:19] ;) [05:44:52] in any case, what would the url look like for the "next 100" in a given example [05:46:54] well, first you might want to get the URL for the first page right [05:47:55] ? [05:48:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export&pages=List_of_Rookie_Digimon_(Part_1)&limit=2&history=1 [05:48:59] you need history=1 if you want the history rather than just the current version [05:49:19] ooooh [05:50:31] oh dear... [05:50:53] it's also full of bugs [05:51:08] crazy [05:51:59] ok, so to avoid several bugs, you need to use POST instead of GET [05:52:05] so limit=2 means it will only give two versions? [05:52:20] yeah, well it would if it wasn't broken [05:52:27] instead it gives you about 50 [05:52:41] limit=2 will give you 2 versions if you post it [05:52:42] whatever that url is loading is one hell of a page.. [05:53:16] also offset is completely broken if you use GET [05:53:33] post.. [05:55:24] so get something like CURL to do your test requests, instead of using a browser or whatever [05:55:36] ah, ok, I understand [05:56:09] the browser was causing my problem, because it was using GET [05:56:35] well, that's one way of looking at it [05:56:48] the other would be to say that MediaWiki is broken for browsers [05:56:56] ah [06:00:10] Tim: thank you very much [06:00:16] I should be able to export my files now [06:11:06] why does my skin change when I log in? [06:11:31] because your personal skin is set to be different from the default user skin? [06:12:02] where would I set that? [06:12:09] user preferences [06:12:20] ah so it is, cheers [06:12:28] can't I say "the default"? [06:12:34] nope :) [06:12:39] dang, thanks [06:12:50] it starts out default, but once you change it that's the new default for you [06:12:57] gotchya [06:26:26] NotACow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirara awww ;) [06:29:33] AaronSchulz: uh, whatever [06:29:53] now that's a pet [06:30:16] *amidanie1 stabs whoever created that show and whoever decided it deserved to be shown on adult swim >:() [06:30:50] *NotACow goes back to differentiating between strings and byte vectors [06:33:22] amidanie1: my roommate hates it too [06:33:33] it's no Cowboy Bebop, but it's cute [06:35:06] amidanie1: Even InuYasha looks cute ;) [06:35:19] weirdo [06:53:23] hello guys [06:53:58] can anybody tell me which is the plugin that looks like a floating windows with the title and some description of the page?! [06:55:57] eri--: [06:57:06] amidanie1: i cannot open that page and don't want a real popup but one that is integrated in the page like ie [06:57:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Livelets the window that describes this [06:57:46] the one that is under mediawiki extensions in the top right place [07:02:56] anybody [07:20:21] *AaronSchulz downloads the InuYasha opening theme music [07:20:28] amidanie1: :D [07:24:03] <_wooz> lo [07:51:50] amidaniel/amidanie1, I had no idea the API had action=render yet :) [08:05:00] :q! [08:05:20] dk [08:09:55] heh, sorry. any idea where i should go for more info on mwbot? [08:10:24] Ask someone who knows about it [08:10:26] Such as me. [08:10:47] is there somewhere with documentation/descriptions on it? [08:10:56] No, its incredibly simple :) [08:11:03] i kinda stumbled on it, but can't really figure out what it is exactly [08:11:11] You simply type ! then one of the keyword names [08:11:13] Its for help [08:11:18] !simpleurl @ quin [08:11:18] You don't have permission to do that. [08:11:21] Whoops [08:11:24] !simpleurl [08:11:24] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [08:11:40] !list [08:11:45] I cant remember the list command [08:11:47] ah, so mostly for helping you guys out here? [08:11:55] Yeah [08:12:40] ok not what i thought then, but thanks though. [08:12:48] i was hoping to find something which would barf wiki changes to my project channel, any suggestions? [08:13:27] kinda like CIA does for SVN i guess :) [09:22:28] How do I add mandatory user registration for editing pages? [09:28:37] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 (10rotemliss_public) [09:33:47] ooh i know this one [09:33:57] kaminix: $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [09:34:18] hi there [09:34:24] and i think you need this afterward; $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true; [09:34:40] g'day [09:34:44] i got a quick question, let me know when the currently discussed problem is solved and i may ask mine [09:34:47] quin: Where do I find that optien? Thanks. :) [09:35:16] kaminix, you must edit your LocalSettings.php, I recommend reading the wikimedia manual :) [09:35:31] *quin read it today while he setup his wiki [09:35:42] Isn't that loooong? :( [09:35:58] yeah, but like any wiki it's broken into sections [09:36:05] with a section dedicated to what you just asked :P [09:36:13] Hrm... :p [09:36:31] when you think about it, it's probably a very common question ;) [09:38:44] True :) [09:40:56] can i ask mine now? [09:40:58] :) [09:43:27] i would like to display a page in mediawiki main. namely: my forum. [09:43:29] I was thinking about an I-Frame. I already added a link in navigation menu, but now i need to know how to integrate an iframe... [09:45:24] there is an extension to display webpages with wiki code in iframes... but that is a lot more then i need. [09:45:37] i'm pretty sure there's an option to not parse html code embedded in wikitext [09:45:41] i just need to display this forum inside the main page [09:48:29] if $wgRawHtml is set [09:48:51] guess i got to place this in front of my html... and somwhere set RawHtml to 1? [09:49:15] LocalSettings.php [09:49:39] 03rotem * r26955 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [09:49:42] could always write a quick extension yourself, or modify the existing one [09:49:45] but then i allow all html for all pages? [09:49:53] extensions are generally easier [09:50:26] uhm... i can copy + paste and modify a line or two but i am completely new to mediawiki [09:51:29] an extension would be adding a homegrown tag to the wikitext syntax and use it to display an iframe? [09:51:37] same here, i can't really help beyond that [09:51:48] the way I would do it is to make a simple extension [09:52:19] like the fundraising extensions [09:52:21] orkz, that's the gist of it [09:52:36] i could do a page that his a skeleton hmtl document + iframe with my forum... copy it somewhere and... use as a special page? [09:52:56] http://www.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+iframe gives a few results [09:53:06] hi there - I'm having trouble using the Gnuplot extension: it seems that the extension can't create the image files, and I'm not sure which permissions I need to set [09:53:09] or a template, maybe. [09:53:35] Ace_NoOne, contact the extension author? [09:53:44] Ace_NoOne: you mean the WikiTeX one? [09:54:21] gnuplot is graphing, not latex [09:54:22] orkz: there's an extension called FixedImage, have a look at that [09:54:23] TimStarling: I mean http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gnuplot#Install_instructions for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Usage_Statistics [09:55:11] haven't seen that one [09:55:13] quin: I think it's a file permissions issue... and I was hoping someone here could help (I need this ASAP) [09:55:32] does it need to write to it? [09:55:51] quin: I get this error: [09:55:55] The requested URL /upload/gnuplot/af14668d0ef0d75c275e45fe01ea8362.png was not found on this server. [09:56:00] this is looking promising: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Anysite [09:56:01] so I assume it attempt to create an img file [09:56:22] *attempts [09:56:26] /upload needs to be writable by the httpd user [09:56:46] it may need an addition not to allow external sites.... [09:56:48] chmod -R a+w ./upload [09:56:57] quin: I just checked; it seems the upload folder has just been created ... hmm [09:57:01] brb [09:58:42] orkz: I'm not sure we're getting through how easy writing an extension would be... [09:58:55] you could just go to LocalSettings.php, write this: [09:59:05] $wgExtensionFunctions[] = 'setupIframe'; [09:59:31] function setupIframe() { global $wgParser; $wgParser->setHook( 'myiframe', 'makeIframe' ); } [09:59:51] function makeIframe() { return ''; } [10:43:06] but how do i put it on a wiki site now? [10:52:00] *orkz runs around in circles [10:57:16] 03magnusmanske * r26957 10/trunk/wiki2xml/php/ (content_provider.php w2x.php wiki2xml.php): Adding option for API-based retrieval (automagic tamplate resolving) [11:00:30] hi there [11:01:28] i got several wikis, using the same server, but different databases - is there a quite simple way to tell them to use the same ImageList? so if one wiki uploads a file, this file becomes available for all wikis? [11:02:12] you could put them all on the same database, using different prefix... but that would still be seperated wikis [11:03:01] if you know what table is used to store the information you want to share, you may make your wiki's add it to all those tables? but i got no idea how [11:03:16] *orkz pokes TimStarling to see if he is awake [11:09:53] anyone else that could help me? i added some lines to localsettings.php to integrate a single iframe (my forum) into my mediawiki, but got no idea how to "call it" in the place where i want to display the forum [11:11:12] how about a template? [11:11:48] orkz: if you're using tim's example, type [11:12:05] i thought about a single iFrame... without activating html or iframes for all users... [11:12:44] thanks flying... will try [11:13:15] working :-) thanks a lot [11:13:55] it's still looking kind of stupid, but now that it is displayed at all, i will be able to fine-tune it. thanks guys [11:19:08] hi all! [11:21:25] hi [11:53:28] ack! using "=" in a template breaks the output!? (e.g. {{Quote|Foo| [http://www.google.com?query=bar Baz]) [11:53:48] yes [11:53:59] what can I do about it [11:54:03] dunno [11:54:10] {{Quote|1=Foo|2=[http://www.google.com?query=bar Baz]) [11:54:21] thanks pengo [11:54:24] np [11:54:39] pengo: 2= doesn't work with multiline contents tho, IIRC? [11:54:54] it doesn't? [11:54:58] lemme try [11:55:00] i never tried [11:56:12] works, pengo - thanks a bunch [11:58:05] cool [12:01:49] 03catrope * r26958 10/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.body.php: ChangeAuthor: Clearing up merge mess [12:05:39] what's the best way setting up a multilanguage wiki? [12:12:08] 03nikerabbit * r26959 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 2 dirs): * Updates to ang, fo, hy, new, nl, tet [12:16:07] re [12:43:31] 03magnusmanske * r26960 10/trunk/wiki2xml/php/w2x.php: up memory limit [12:43:51] what's the matter of iw_local in interwiki table? [12:45:11] havvg: magic redirects. basically, set it to 1 for your own wikis [12:45:48] k [12:45:52] havvg: consider for example what this URL does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/meta:Test [12:47:12] 03(mod) Can not delete images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 (10x_ray) [13:07:05] Is there anyway to bypass the scroll window feature for references? [13:08:00] After a certain amount of references, it ignores {{reflist}} and any column numbers specified (such as using {{reflist|3}}), it also breaks ISBN linking for references [13:08:49] That is, once the scroll window feature is triggered, all reference formatting (ISBN linking, footnote columns, etc) is discarded by the MediaWiki software [13:09:04] Any suggestions, beyond filing a bug report? [13:09:31] "scroll window feature"? whot? [13:10:00] the feature that scrolls the window, duh [13:10:15] i all it my "mouse wheel" [13:10:18] *call [13:10:49] Duesentrieb, when using to list the footnotes, after there is a certain number it normally displays the list normally, but in a subwindow that can scroll up and down to reveal all the references [13:11:07] ignore that second "normally" [13:11:13] Vassyana: really? have never seen that. got an example? [13:11:35] Vassyana: anyway, i would expect that to be done with CSS: max-height and overflow:auto or something [13:12:13] [Bob Meusel#Footnotes]] [13:12:21] [[Bob Meusel#Footnotes]] [13:12:51] I noticed the format change within the past few weeks. [13:13:05] no scrolling here [13:13:16] moment, reloading css/js [13:13:28] nope, nothing [13:13:35] 03nikerabbit * r26961 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (rebuildLanguage.php writeMessagesArray.inc): * Made writeMessagesArray a MessageWriter class [13:15:20] Hmmm, never mind, it must be something in my settings in only one browser, apologies for not checking with other browsers first. My fault entirely. [13:15:35] *Vassyana hangs head is bother-to-check-first-moron shame [13:15:53] np, happens to the best :P [13:16:22] Heh, thanks for understanding. :) [13:16:37] 03nikerabbit * r26962 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (5 files): [13:16:37] * New configuration variable wgTranslateLanguageFallbacks [13:16:37] * Better export to file for core message class [13:16:49] Is it possible to specify targets for external URL's? [13:16:54] No [13:16:56] targets? [13:17:06] ike, _same, _blank, etc [13:17:07] flyingparchment: target="_blank" for example. [13:17:10] no [13:17:12] Very evil stuff. [13:17:16] and you shouldn't anyway :) [13:17:48] Well I have a bunch of links to external websites that I don't want to replace the main page when clicked. [13:17:57] Why not? [13:18:13] It's a hassle for the users using our website [13:18:29] If the user wants to go away from your site then you should let them, if they want to open it in a new window they can press Ctrl while they click. [13:19:53] or middle click [13:21:00] WTF [13:21:01] +ini_set ('memory_limit', 1024*1024*640); # 64MB upper limit [13:21:13] Astray: actually, i find it a hassle if websites insist on poping up new windows for me. it's quite annoying. [13:21:32] Astray: anyway, it's trivial enough to write an extension to do it. actually, i'm quite sure there must be already a few for this. [13:21:51] first, that's 640 MB, second, why didn't he put "64M" [13:21:54] The whole point of the website is to get to multiple sources quickly [13:22:20] Astray: use a decent browser then :) [13:22:30] Astray: but as i said, look for an extension, if you really want that [13:22:40] does magnus manske irc? [13:22:48] rarely [13:22:58] Most of my users are still stuck using IE6/7 so that's not much of a fix [13:23:25] Astray: What is wrong with Ctrl+Click? [13:24:47] Different depending on the browser being used. [13:25:07] IE is Shift+Click [13:25:17] Same thing :P [13:25:23] Right click open in new window then. [13:25:32] And to get that across to everybody would be a pain [13:25:51] Your loss. [13:35:25] how can i set up a standard database image from mediawiki [13:36:02] mysqldump wikidsatabasename -u someuser -p [13:37:10] so i need to install one and dump it myself? [13:38:25] install what? [13:38:33] if you have a wiki, it's already installed... [13:38:54] and if you want to make a dump, yes, *you* have to make it... [13:39:32] yes that's clear to me [13:39:39] i got 2 wikis for now [13:40:05] and simply copied one of these several times, edited the database config and language codes (and some minor stuff) [13:40:32] you don't need to copy... [13:40:36] but these new wikis got no database so far, therefor i'm asking, wheither there is a default dump right after an installation available somewhere :) [13:40:38] anyway [13:40:40] !backup [13:40:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [13:40:45] !farm [13:40:45] To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. [13:41:09] hm, that's silly advice [13:41:37] hm.. [13:41:47] didn't catch it :D [13:42:00] !family [13:42:04] hm. [13:42:28] so i just need one wiki installed [13:42:55] !farm is To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [13:42:55] Keyword "farm" already exists. Use "!farm del" to remove it. [13:43:04] !farm del [13:43:04] Successfully removed keyword: farm [13:43:07] !farm is To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [13:43:07] Successfully added keyword: farm [13:43:11] havvg: ---^ [13:43:16] k :) [13:43:53] havvg: basically, all use the same source, and in your LocalSettings.php, you conditionally include this or that config, based on the requested host or path. [13:44:04] plus you can have a shared user table, interwiki links, [13:44:11] shared media repos, etc [13:45:11] but if i set up more than one wiki with several dbprefixes - how do they "know" each other? for eg. shared media repos [13:46:11] read the link [13:46:15] ah i c in the link [13:46:20] Umm, question: [13:46:20] In the default configuration, every included template leavers about 1.5times its size empty below, before the next wikitext is shown. [13:46:20] Does anyone know how to shorten the space that is left empty below them? [13:46:20] http://khadgara.uttx.net/wiki/Aktuelle_Ereignisse <- As an example [13:46:47] The blue boxes are templates [14:07:33] How do i move a db? [14:07:46] !backup [14:07:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [14:07:53] @search moving [14:07:53] Results: [] [14:07:56] @search move [14:07:56] Results: [oversight] [14:08:15] huh? [14:08:21] Aha thanks [14:08:35] Backup db, unbackup db on location. [14:08:49] s/location/new location [14:18:07] Is it possible to link to a page in the category namespace from a page and still only have the Pagename (without the Category: ) displayed? [14:28:23] [[namespace:page|page]] like so? [14:29:11] y, but if i use [Category:foo|bar]] the pages gets CATEGORIZED in foo [14:29:22] Which is what I don't need o.O [14:29:55] ah [14:30:09] [[:category:foo|foo]] [14:33:41] ah [14:33:42] thx :D [15:13:52] brion-office: I believe I found a bug in Special:HideRevision [15:14:12] what kinda bug [15:14:38] if you hide a revision of a page, and then try to delete it, [15:14:47] it gives you an internal error [15:20:25] Pinky: erm [15:20:32] well you can't delete it once it's already gone :) [15:20:40] heh [15:21:09] what do you mean delete exactly? [15:21:39] click the delete tab at the top of the page [15:23:03] what error do you get, exactly? [15:24:05] http://p.defau.lt/?bv2JH6DMLbHfbdHscY3FdQ [15:25:38] does anyone know if it is possible to dynamicly change the sidebar due to a users usercategory? [15:26:26] o_O [15:26:38] Pinky: you getting this on your box or wikimedia wiki? which one/ which page? [15:27:43] http://test.jackphoenix.com/wiki/User:Pinky [15:27:59] I did it on my talk page as well [15:28:51] Hello, I am having trouble with the fact that my mediawiki installation thinks that links don't exist that do (i.e. it appends action=edit to the URL). when it goes to the edit page the content is in the edit box. Has anyone else seen this problem/know a fix? [15:29:46] some cache fishyness probably [15:29:53] is this only for newly created pages? [15:30:00] does it happen for all links? [15:30:01] http://test.jackphoenix.com/test/index.php?title=User_talk:Pinky&action=history <--its clearer to see on this page, because I just made 2 edits, and hid the 1st one [15:30:05] does it go away when you edit that page? [15:30:10] or the page it links to? [15:30:12] it happens for all links - ones that used to work [15:30:19] are they red? [15:30:24] if you save the edited page, the problem does not go away [15:30:27] yes [15:30:39] the wiki is at http://burst.dan-foster.co.uk [15:31:16] clicking the "yoshi" link in the table is a good example [15:33:11] TP2k: hmm. did that happen when you upgraded? did you run the upgrade script? [15:33:20] TP2k: can you verify the server's clock is set right? [15:34:42] not sure the exact time it broke, but it was most likely when I was doing an upgrade of other software on the server. Since it broke I have also upgraded mediawiki but that did not fix the problem [15:34:46] the clock is the correct time [15:34:51] TP2k: it does seem quite odd... i don't know enough about the linkcache stuff to tell you what's going on, though [15:35:08] ok, thank you very much for taking a look at it [15:35:31] TP2k: perhaps brion-office will look at it when he has got a minute [15:36:28] Pinky: oh this is something with revision hiding, not with oversight [15:36:32] yeah that might be totally fucked for all i know [15:36:42] probably i'll have to revert a lot of things when i have time to review commits again [15:36:56] brion-office: Did you ever get my mail? [15:37:02] no time for mail [15:37:07] :( [15:37:25] I sent it several days ago... [15:37:58] is it the fundraiser or another absolutely vital thing? [15:38:02] if not then i haven't read it probably [15:38:08] if it's about svn access, mail tim for now [15:38:30] ok [15:38:41] it is about the mailing lists, i know wrong channel. i will ask in -tech [15:43:27] hmm [15:43:47] sec [15:44:59] minute-ssh: replied [15:45:09] ok, thanks [15:45:48] shit [15:45:55] i'm a dick [15:46:03] thank you very much [15:50:35] I ought to be shot for that. [15:55:37] brion-office: I don't think its revisiondelete, because I reproduced the error on a page that I never revisiondeleted [15:56:37] http://test.jackphoenix.com/wiki/Hmm <-- I deleted this page, recreated it, hid a revision, and now I get that error [15:59:36] Nikerabbit: Look on the mailing list, sent the e-mail that I was talking about. Should come through this time. [16:04:33] aaaarrrrgh [16:04:35] *brion-lunch stabs lots of things [16:06:56] *mark dies [16:07:14] what did I do :( [16:19:01] Pinky: there are too many extensions there, who knows where the bug is [16:20:58] lol [16:22:10] http://test.jackphoenix.com/test/index.php?title=Test&diff=396&oldid=395 [16:22:16] that doesn't even match /trunk [16:28:25] mark: you were born [16:28:28] ;) [16:28:43] Does anyone know how to shorten the space, which is left empty under templates after inclusion? [16:28:43] Like, the template is 3 lines of text and some 5 or 6 lines are left free below it before the next wikitext is rendered... [16:29:22] Dunno if it's the default setting of MW or a browserspecific problem [16:29:58] 03rotem * r26963 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesYi.php: Changing an unacceptable translation. [16:30:42] Opera and IE seem to render it that way [16:30:52] http://khadgara.uttx.net/wiki/Aktuelle_Ereignisse <- Looks like that [16:36:14] brion-lunch: http://www.creationwiki.net/Main_Page [16:36:17] ... [16:36:35] "Evolutionism"...haha [16:38:56] 03(mod) Install Labeled Section Transclusion extension on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 +comment (10ssanbeg) [16:43:36] where are the semantic people? [16:45:45] they were a cult; they all drank poison and died... [16:45:57] Order of the Semantic People [16:46:10] they left without me! [16:55:47] moo [16:56:23] NotACow: you gotta love the creation nutters [16:57:48] It's admirable though that there are people among them who seem to be able to operate a wiki o.O [16:58:32] they must be at the high end of the bell curve ;) [17:09:49] minute-ssh: ugh [17:10:10] 03magnusmanske * r26964 10/trunk/wiki2xml/php/w2x.php: Oops... thx Niklas [17:10:43] perfect timing O_o [17:10:55] *Nikerabbit just came from outdoors [17:11:48] Come on, now, there are plenty of smart deluded people. [17:12:02] wassup? [17:13:22] Trying to find the set of all automorphisms on the symmetric group without cheating too much. [17:14:04] Although he didn't *say* we couldn't use Wikipedia, which mentions the answer at [[Symmetric group]] and has a whole article on the matter. [17:15:01] Which I have so far refrained from reading. [17:23:31] meow [17:31:27] hey! [17:31:32] meow meow meow meow [17:34:24] my SMW is broke :( [17:34:29] flyingparchment: yes, you can create users in LDAP via the plugin. No, there isn't a migration tool to make ldif from the user database, but it should be pretty easy to make. [17:34:34] although it is rather cool! [17:35:20] I have created #semantic-mediawiki ... does it sound like a reasonable name? [17:35:24] Its that or smw [17:35:28] Its that or #smw [17:35:46] I figure given enough time a community will form around me :D [17:48:19] Protégé even! [17:48:37] ugh [17:48:50] woops [17:49:00] where were those ontology people again? [17:49:06] not SMW but some ontology channel? [18:13:07] o_O @ r26963 [18:13:11] Vandalism in the message files? [18:14:07] Simetrical: no [18:14:26] Hm... My eyes are right and texvc is really written on OCaml? [18:14:58] VasilievVV: yes [18:16:23] Okay, why "rewrite it to C" isn't on TODO list? Does anybody in MediaWiki developers team speaks OCaml? [18:16:36] Nikerabbit, what was it, then? [18:16:47] VasilievVV, no. That's one problem. [18:17:06] VasilievVV, the other problem is that it works, so nobody really cares. [18:17:12] I just installed MediaWiki 1.11.0 and all trials to change the sidebar failed. Any idea? [18:17:35] What are you changing? [18:17:55] Simetrical: fuzzymarking that had slipped trough [18:18:01] just the links, using mediawiki:sidebar [18:18:05] Nikerabbit, fuzzymarking? [18:18:13] Whats happening when you do that? [18:18:31] Simetrical: you should know if you are familiar with fuzzys in gettext [18:19:14] Nikerabbit, I have no idea what you're talking about. [18:19:34] deletion works, but new entries aren't displayed at all...deleting the cache tends to no result [18:19:34] too bad, does it matter [18:19:44] it's just a translator aid [18:20:09] k. [18:22:26] and should not get trough again with the new fine export-to-file-system [18:31:12] Morning all [18:31:47] ugh [18:35:38] ugh [18:36:08] O.o [18:36:15] *amidaniel hands Nikerabbit some advil [18:40:16] i turned off display_errors in the php_ini but some warning-messages are still displayed. anything else to do? [18:40:45] demagggus, make sure it's not overridden in the PHP files themselves, make sure it's not overridden in .htaccess, make sure you edited the right php.ini file. [18:50:30] is there a syntax to request a random page from a given namespace? (I see a ns parameter in SpecialRandompage.php) [18:52:14] ThomasV: Yes, /wikipath/Special:Random/Namespace_name [18:52:17] Simetrical: I changed all php_ini files, because I wasn't sure which is the right one, but this doesn't work... [18:52:30] amidaniel: thanks [18:55:36] hi there :) [18:56:17] i set up $wgUseSharedUploads = true; and copied the table "image" to the shared db [18:56:38] but the new wiki doesn't recognize any uploaded image from the old one, am i missing something? [19:00:37] these settings are set as well$wgUseSharedUploads = true; $wgSharedUploadPath = "$wgScriptPath/images"; $wgSharedUploadDirectory = "$IP/images"; $wgSharedUploadDBname = "wiki";$wgSharedUploadDBprefix = "wiki_default_"; [19:09:19] Simetrical: could this affect each and every php-file? [19:10:44] . [19:11:32] Simetrical: i mean, is it possible to comprehend in which file the php.ini settings are maybe overwritten? [19:11:54] demagggus: grep ini_set [19:12:14] Duesentrieb: thx [19:12:48] note that some settings haver a special function to modify them too, so this is not 100% [19:12:52] it will cover most, though [19:21:00] hi. is there an irc channel dedicated to semantic mediawiki? [19:22:24] i doubt it [19:30:34] 03yaron * r26965 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: [19:30:34] Added validate_multiple_mandatory_fields() Javascript function, added [19:30:34] placeholder for Boolean type for SMW 1.0 [19:31:48] 03yaron * r26966 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: [19:31:48] Added sffTitleString(), and some functionality formerly contained in [19:31:48] SF_FormEditTab.php [19:32:52] 03yaron * r26967 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: Much functionality has been moved to SF_GlobalFunctions.php [19:33:58] 03yaron * r26968 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_AddData.php: Spun off most of the form-creation code into a new function, printAddForm() [19:36:03] 03yaron * r26969 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_EditData.php: [19:36:03] Spun off most of the edit-form-creation code into a new function, [19:36:03] printEditForm(); added a new function, sffEmbeddedEditForm(), an 'action' hook [19:38:02] 03yaron * r26970 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_AddPage.php: [19:38:02] On handling an existing page, the redirect goes to either the 'special' [19:38:02] page or the new inline tab, depending on whether this was the 'correct' [19:38:02] form for the page [19:39:15] 03yaron * r26971 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/ (SF_CreateProperty.php SF_CreateTemplate.php): Fixes to avoid PHP notice errors - proper initializations, etc. [19:39:40] 03yaron * r26972 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/ (SF_LanguageZh_cn.php SF_LanguageZh_tw.php): Updates by Roc Michael [19:39:57] 03yaron * r26973 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version, 0.7 [19:41:14] Is it possible to have two templates in one line or do they always push the following text into a new line? [19:47:11] HACK]Gara[, sure it's possible. Make sure that none of the templates begins/ends with excessive whitespace. [19:47:23] HACK]Gara[, also make sure they aren't using
s or other block-level formatting. [19:49:10] Simetrical: do you know if there is any correct/official/unofficial definition of the data the rc bot spits out on irc.wikimedia.org? [19:59:38] AzaTht, isn't it somewhere in SVN or something? [19:59:46] hmm [19:59:51] Thanks @Simetrical, got it :) [19:59:58] perhaps, didn't though about it [20:00:00] but where? [20:06:24] I updated a heavily modified 1.8.4 to 1.11 and all my images have gone black. On image files it looks like urls have gone flatter:(from images/7/7f/pic.jpg to images/pic.jpg) Any idea where to go hunting to get this up? is there URL rewriting, or did the image-hash-folder scheme change somehow in the past year? [20:08:30] $wgHashedUploadDirectory ? [20:09:21] now it's default false [20:09:21] question... i've got a function that gets the username of a user by calling "$wgUser->getUserPage()->getText();" - how can i get the real name? [20:09:27] ...of the user, that is [20:12:16] nature: this does seem to be a bug, I've seen it before [20:12:21] do you have shell? [20:18:11] hi [20:23:34] hi [20:26:22] micaelzer: Thanks, that was it. Is that a new global? [20:29:25] not so new, but it used to be default true, i dont know how long it was [20:29:43] how can i remove the community portal link on the side bar? i've read that i'm supposed to be able to search for Mediawiki:sidebar and edit that page but I can't seem to find it :/ [20:30:39] delete community portal line from [[Mediawiki:sidebar]] [20:56:50] Hello [20:57:41] There is no spoon. Ask your question, and it might be answered. Greet the spoon, and it will but stare at you. [20:57:52] spoon. [20:59:15] How can I add a class to renderer html body () from page edition ? Mediawiki syntax tip or extension maybe ? [21:06:08] To manage pageclass from editor for exemple [21:07:06] Telemac: for most (but not all) skins, you could hook into SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec and fiddle with $tpl->data['pageclass'] [21:07:12] not sure if an extension exitsts that does that [21:07:38] injecting special css into the page head is simpler [21:07:52] (extensions for that exist, iirc) [21:07:53] You could do it with some javascript in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] [21:08:04] yes, but that's fugly :) [21:08:21] offtopic: What does iirc mean? I assume not "In IRC" [21:08:38] "if i recall correcty" [21:08:50] similar to afaik ;) [21:08:52] Ahh, that makes more sense. [21:11:55] Otherwise is there a syntax tip to wrap body with a div (
...
), like {{wrap|class="x"}} ? [21:17:57] Telemac: you can't wrap the body. [21:18:27] why ? [21:18:44] wee [21:18:45] 03aaron * r26974 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files): [21:18:45] *Rename file to better name [21:18:45] *Kill double escaping [21:18:45] *Move some functions to FlaggedArticle.php [21:19:09] Telemac: because the skins don't support it. also, {{...}} is meant for something else. [21:21:05] I've let {{ }} in my exemple but it could be or anything else that allow to define some page attribute rendered with a wrapping div [21:24:25] Telemac: much easier to manipulate the calss or style of the element or inject a