[00:09:54] 03(NEW) Can annotate with properties using Cyrillic letters (???? ???) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11804 04BLOCKER; high; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [00:21:43] hoi [00:21:59] anyone speak german? [00:47:14] hi leute [00:48:03] 03(mod) Can not annotate with properties using Cyrillic letters (????? ??) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11804 summary (10some_777) [00:48:56] 03(mod) Don't say whether user exists on incorrect login info, for wikis with no anonymous viewing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11757 (10voyagerfan5761) [01:11:12] 03(NEW) Two new namespaces for Portuguese Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11805 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lugusto) [02:56:21] 03(mod) New workaround JavaScript "diff.js" in 1.12alpha (r26409) interferes with wikEd - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 +comment (10voyagerfan5761) [02:56:44] Hi all! [03:46:00] Hate to bother you folks, but I've got a problem. My admin username and password are correct, but update.php is reporting a failed connection. [03:46:24] Where's the definition for $dbclass, so I can find out what exactly the error is? [03:47:03] (Incidentally, I know the admin username and password are correct because I used them to do a mysqldump of my database before starting the upgrade...) [03:47:35] includes/Database.php [03:47:39] what's the error message exactly? [03:48:05] A connection to the database could not be established. Check the [03:48:05] values of $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword. [03:48:15] This is from running "php update.php" in the maintenance directory. [03:48:17] TimStarling: hello :) [03:48:25] hi [03:49:00] shortcircuit: odd, so no actual error message from the database... [03:49:45] Is it possible that a password containing ~ could cause an error? [03:49:53] not really [03:51:14] FWIW, I'm trying to upgrade from 1.9.something to 1.11.0 [03:51:32] see this line: [03:51:36] $wgDatabase = new $dbclass( $wgDBserver, $wgDBadminuser, $wgDBadminpassword, $wgDBname, 1 ); [03:51:43] change the 1 to false [03:51:54] that should make it more informative [03:52:05] it's in update.php [03:52:27] Ah. Access denied. [03:52:39] Weird. [03:53:05] check the hostname [03:53:11] that's the usual problem [03:53:18] Looks correct. Bluehost uses localhost. [03:53:54] check that the username in the error message (including host) matches the username (and host) in the grant [03:59:32] Looks like that's the case. At least, insofar as I can determing through Bluehost's interface. [04:00:12] quick question: If i use the media wiki to setup a site, can I choose my copyright methodology for the information created on the site? Or must I follow the GFDL? [04:00:27] Hm. I can run mysqldump while specifying the username and password, but I can't log in using mysql. [04:00:27] yes, no [04:01:20] Chellyn, Look for "copyright" in localsettings.php [04:02:32] $wgRightsPage, $wgRightsUrl, $wgRightsText and $wgRightsIcon are the settings that would be of interest to you. [04:03:56] Well, I managed to log in with mysql. How do I check privileges? (Sorry...I don't speak SQL all that well.) [04:03:59] to make sure i understood your very simple answer: Yes, I can copyright everything on my own hosted site to my level of choosing- i.e. if i set it up for internal documents, they do not become freely transferable. looking at that now shortC-thanks [04:05:08] Chellyn, You can specify whatever rights you want. In addition, there's a special Copyright page in the wiki that you can lay out your policy in. You probably want to "protect" it using your sysop account, though. [04:05:48] I'd give you a link to a sample, but my site's down atm. :-) [04:05:54] shortcircuit: type "\s" in the mysql command line prompt, that will give you the currently connected user [04:06:38] excellent- that works. trying to setup some internal documents for a company i work for, but they were concerned that it was "free" software. Wanted to make sure I could set it up both security wise (i see that) but also didnt want GFDL causing a problem with "sensitive" documents their internal IP etc [04:07:05] There's something weird about update.php's error message. It lists the credentials as 'shortcir_mwdbadm'@'localhost' [04:07:17] Is it actually including the single-quotes in the credentials? [04:07:36] mysql allows it [04:07:52] that's mysql putting the quotes in, MediaWiki specifies the names without the quotes [04:08:14] what's the user in the command line client? [04:08:17] The mysql command, on the other hand, lists the current user as shortcir_mwdbadm@localhost [04:09:09] where have you specified the username and password? what file? [04:09:46] maybe you spelt $wgDBadminpassword wrong or something [04:09:50] it is case sensitive [04:10:48] $wgDBadminpassword = '(removed)'; # from AdminSettings.php [04:11:49] try putting in an "echo $wgDBadminpassword;" in update.php, before the connect [04:12:10] after the commandLine.inc mind you [04:12:17] don't want to be printing it out on the web [04:13:25] Looks right. [04:13:45] Hm. Means it's probably a problem with mysql. [04:14:04] try using 127.0.0.1 as the host instead of "localhost" [04:14:11] just in case [04:15:14] Same error. Also tried with new user granted all privileges. [04:17:02] Is there another update route? [04:18:01] mmm, good point, could be wrong database [04:18:30] oops, didn't actually mean to press enter on that line, I had it sitting there for a while thinking it was wrong [04:18:35] I don't see how...The site was running fine up until I started the update process. [04:18:53] Well, until I copied 1.11 files over the old 1.9 files. [04:19:12] I did check to make sure LocalSettings.php was intact. [04:19:37] anyway, the other update route is to use config/index.php, from the web [04:19:59] I'll give that a shot, then. [04:21:27] Hm. "Setup has completed." But I still get a database error on the main page. It didn't look like any of my previous update cycles, either. Do I need to remove a "we're done here" file somewhere? [04:21:55] yeah, you need to move LocalSettings.php away [04:22:09] then it'll give you an install form [04:22:23] you fill in the details of the existing database, and it'll upgrade it for you [04:22:40] then you can either swap in the new generated LocalSettings.php or move the old one back [04:22:55] 03(mod) New workaround JavaScript "diff.js" in 1.12alpha (r26409) interferes with wikEd - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 (10oq9pscb02) [04:23:12] Oh, for the love of... [04:24:29] Erm...How did that happen? My settings got reset to ones from February on a different host. [04:24:55] heh, sounds like a question for your provider [04:26:28] OIC...I never "moved" the old LocalSettings.php file from my config/ ... I only copied it. [04:27:01] So when I ran the config the second time, it told me I only needed to copy LocalSettings.php from config/ to /. [04:45:57] *phew* [04:46:03] Looks like everything's up and running now. [04:46:13] Thanks for your help. Here's a cookie. [04:46:18] *shortcircuit gives TimStarling a cookie. [04:46:29] Drop that in your Firefox profile, and you can log into my site any time. ;-) [04:46:45] Seriously, though, thanks for the help. [04:47:06] no problem [04:51:24] A question along different lines...One of my users pointed out to me that my site's Atom feed uses a page's URL for the attribute. This makes it difficult to watch for multiple page edits using the feed. If I wanted to change the URL used to add, say an oldid parameter, where would that code be? [04:54:34] that sounds complicated [04:55:17] it's probably PageHistory::feed() [04:58:13] 03river * r26998 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/: new directory [05:00:38] http://open.wikiblogplanet.com/ [05:00:45] TimStarling: is anon page creation going on or not? [05:01:52] probably [05:02:02] most people seem to be in favour [05:03:36] where was this discussed? [05:03:48] It really seemed to just come from behind [05:04:36] well, one day, Greg said to Kat, hey let's get anonymous page creation re-enabled [05:04:44] and Kat said to Greg "good idea" [05:05:28] then some other people told Greg it was a good idea, so he decided to make a post to wikien-l saying that some unnamed group of people had decided to re-enable page creation for anons [05:06:00] the cabal! [05:07:29] apparently he thought that if he spoke with enough authority, everyone would just believe him [05:07:33] 03river * r26999 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/ (104 files in 17 dirs): Toolserver SSO account management app [05:07:36] which they did, so I guess it paid off for him [05:09:56] personally I think he could have done without the posturing and still gotten the same result [05:10:12] since as I say, most people seem to be in favour of it [05:12:18] 03river * r27000 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/ (14 files in 3 dirs): copyright headers [05:16:57] hi cheatcountry u sux [05:17:15] shut up lol [05:17:30] haxors my soxors! [05:17:52] ah, it's a two-man act [05:18:03] or were roommates :/ [05:18:15] yeah that too [05:18:40] abbot and costello [05:18:46] TimStarling: http://www.nabble.com/Anonymous-page-creation-will-be-reenabled-on-English-Wikipedia.-tf4699859.html [05:18:48] irc sucks! lol [05:18:55] hmm, now thats an interesting point [05:19:10] I used to do AfC stuff [05:19:11] j/k. don't wanna get lynched [05:19:34] how can I see what version I'm running heh [05:20:05] AaronSchulz: why are you sending me a link to a thread that I've participated in? [05:20:24] nevermind I got it [05:20:36] what program are you using? [05:21:26] TimStarling: you actually read the whole thread? The longer it gets the less likely that is ;) [05:21:48] I've read most of it now I think [05:21:49] I think that wiki makes a good point [05:22:27] hey I installed SpamBlacklist but how can I know if it's working or not [05:22:54] is that like blue frog? [05:22:59] anyone know? [05:23:06] i can help you out [05:24:31] give me the link that you used to download it please [05:24:50] cheatcountry: me? [05:24:57] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/ [05:25:08] BlaenkDenum: I would recommend ignoring cheatcountry, he's just here to troll [05:25:16] TimStarling: okay [05:25:48] you can test if it's working by attempting to save a link to a blacklisted page [05:28:22] TimStarling: oh yeah :) [05:28:51] TimStarling: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist , so I can make a page and include 'xqit' in it? [05:29:22] does anybody know what the current donation money is going to be used for? [05:29:32] it only checks inside links, so try say [http://emmss.com] [05:29:46] TimStarling: okay :) [05:29:50] cheatcountry: There's a budget somewhere. [05:29:54] actually make that http://www.emmss.com [05:30:01] yeah i tried to find that [05:30:06] no luck [05:30:21] guess it's not working :) [05:30:22] oh okay [05:30:28] sundries [05:30:32] no '[ and ]' huh [05:30:33] cheatcountry: Let me see if I can find it again. [05:30:44] yay it works!!!!!!!!1 [05:30:47] thanks TimStarling [05:31:00] cheatcountry: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Planned_Spending_Distribution_2007-2008 [05:31:13] I hope it works on discussion pages too, and all of that [05:31:37] thanks [05:31:52] Welcome. [05:33:13] i was trying to find something more descriptive though about what things they plan to do with the money and the specific amount of people that they are trying to get to donate [05:33:49] cheatcountry: There's more details on the talk page; click the "(details)" link under the image. [05:33:59] yeah i did just now lol [05:34:01] Although I don't see why that's not on the main page too. [05:34:04] right before you said something [05:34:07] :) [05:34:15] 80% sundries, 20% miscellaneous fund [05:35:15] does anybody know the specific number of people they want to donate currently? [05:35:32] enough to get money [05:35:49] coil: nobody asked you lol [05:36:04] you said anybody [05:36:23] well i'm looking for a specific number [05:36:36] they had their goal clearly posted before [05:36:46] they don't now [05:36:46] but now its a mystery... [05:36:58] you'll just have to get the progress bar and count the pixels [05:37:05] so are they just trying to get as many people as possible with no concrete goal? [05:37:41] number donated * length of progress bar / length of green bit [05:38:03] yeah it looks like about 100,000 people i'm guessing [05:38:05] unless it's a logarithmic scale... that'd be pretty cool [05:38:16] logarithmic? [05:38:38] lol [05:38:46] like 10, 100, 1000, 10000 [05:38:47] cheatcountry, doesn't have any math expirence [05:39:16] I do it just wasn't my best subject in high school [05:39:21] I'm better at financial math [05:40:12] omg adding numbers so hard [05:45:04] anyway, the target is $4.6M, that's the budget [05:45:09] alright [05:45:14] if we don't get enough money then we have to cut things out [05:45:27] now is that target for the annual budget? [05:45:35] yes [05:45:51] is it just me or was there a fundraiser about 2 or 3 months ago? [05:46:02] the progress bar is meant to encourage people to donate, and somebody decided that the best way to do that is using a person count instead of a money count [05:46:05] not sure how that works [05:46:33] no... maybe 6 months ago? [05:46:40] but we don't want to have another one for 12 months [05:47:02] we had advice that the end of the year is the best time for fundraising drives [05:47:18] yeah it usually is because of the holiday season [05:47:27] its when people are more prone to spend their money [05:48:10] now how much of that 4.6 million is actual cost? [05:48:59] compared to future goals that they would like to accomplish in the near future [05:49:48] well, it depends on what you call a future goal [05:50:14] i'm talking about how much of that 4.6 million are current projects and how much of it is future projects [05:50:22] do you know what I mean? [05:51:40] the budget includes expansion of both staff and expenses due to increasing website traffic [05:52:26] the staff are to support the general operations of the foundation, and they will be needed even without any new projects [05:52:38] just by the growth of the current projects [05:53:06] but having more staff also means you can coordinate more projects [05:54:47] if the fundraiser raises significantly more than the budget, there will be room for expansion beyond what's currently in the budget [05:56:10] yes I know [05:56:34] I think the one thing that wiki needs to focus on is PR [05:56:49] that is where they lack [06:06:18] do you agree? [06:08:17] 03river * r27001 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/web/WEB-INF/ (7 files in 2 dirs): i18n support [06:08:20] well, there is already one staff member for press and PR [06:09:16] one is not enough for an organization of that magnitude [06:09:31] they need a PR team [06:09:58] this is an international organization not something that is just strictly american [06:11:13] a team of what, 6? [06:11:26] at least 5 [06:11:50] so say $500,000 per year? [06:12:05] what is the current PR getting? [06:12:15] don't know [06:12:25] I'm assuming that its not 100,000 [06:12:35] you have to add overheads [06:12:36] its probably around half that [06:12:52] there are always overheads when you hire staff [06:13:10] yes of course but they are placing most of their money in other areas [06:13:46] and somebody needs to be able to take care of the britannica biased media [06:14:41] baised? [06:14:49] meh [06:14:56] I don't think PR is really a concern WMF needs to be focused on. [06:15:33] yes the section of the media that proclaims that wikipedia is garbage because it is open source [06:16:33] and how will extra PR spending fix that? [06:16:50] think about it for a second, wikipedia is doing great in america but what about these "third world countries" where the media is essentially run by the governments, especially the governments that want to censor information from the internet [06:17:22] Adding a couple of PR people aren't going to fix goverments that are going to censor the internet. [06:17:32] that is just the first step [06:17:42] there is no quick fix to it, there never is [06:17:46] china isn't a 3rd world country [06:17:56] can anyone shed any light on what MW uses $GLOBALS['name'] for? I'm working on an integration with wordpress (which also uses globals apparently) and it's causing some problems [06:18:13] It keeps getting set to random HTTP header names like User-Agent and Cache-Control [06:19:17] MW uses globals for lots of things [06:19:40] there's no comprehensive list [06:19:59] This seems almost unintentional, it's setting 'name' and 'value' keys [06:20:24] Time to dig I guess [06:20:37] probably during initialisation [06:20:43] you know the file scope is the global scope? [06:21:06] TimStarling: its why i said it in quotes [06:21:18] hm, i didn't [06:21:19] so you're not looking for $GLOBALS['name'], you're looking for $name [06:21:25] ohh yeah [06:21:48] it's a 2nd world country, isn't it? [06:21:51] not many of them left [06:22:53] 03river * r27002 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/web/WEB-INF/ (classes/i18n.properties jsp/profile.jsp): missed i18n of profile.jsp [06:25:03] TimStarling: something in pywikipedia's svn seems to be broken: [06:25:07] river@fae:~/tmp>svn info http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/pywikipedia/trunk/pywikiparser/Parser.py [06:25:07] svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/pywikipedia/!svn/bc/4482/trunk/pywikiparser/Parser.py' [06:25:07] svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/pywikipedia/!svn/bc/4482/trunk/pywikiparser/Parser.py': 207 Multi-Status (http://svn.wikimedia.org) [06:25:11] any ideas? [06:57:08] flyingparchment: maybe ask brion about that one, I haven't dealt with svn before [06:57:51] someone somehow managed to set a property called 'svn:executable *.txt'... which made svn produce invalid xml [06:57:54] fun bug :) [07:23:14] how to change the default Licence of all documents of my fresh installed mediawiki [08:35:43] <_wooz> lo [09:20:12] 03(NEW) PEAR.php is not exist... - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11806 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (andyjuang) [09:24:11] re [09:41:16] hi, can somebody please help me with getting my skins working with an aliased setup of mediawiki? [09:41:36] I have followed this tutorial: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title [09:41:49] but have left $wgScriptPath = "/w"; as $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; [09:42:13] I have also modified the proper Aliases from /w to /wiki, and everything works fine, except for skins [09:42:29] any help would be appreciated [09:45:07] anybody here? [09:55:43] hi, in a template, how do you reference the calling page. Say I want to create a link in the template to an anchor after the article (like a break in a statement) ? [09:56:05] no point trying... everybody here is afking -.- [10:03:28] good morning guys. I guess a really really basic question....but how can i link to a Category inside an article ?. I dont want to add the article to a category itself, already done, but i just want to link to the category itself. [10:03:42] sounds like a dump question i guess [10:14:35] solved. [10:18:20] am i missing something, to set up a shared file upload? http://rafb.net/p/hBYeVu22.html [10:18:43] also in a template (or a page), can you force a list of the subsections available that would act as html anchors to those sections? [10:26:22] *faceface joins #semantic-mediawiki [10:27:44] UGAAGAGAGAGAGAg [10:28:34] *faceface mocks Nikerabbit [10:28:48] join us! [10:35:57] faceface: ugh? [10:41:39] re [10:42:18] Nikerabbit: have you semantic aspirations? [10:42:37] aspirations? [10:42:57] sorry, curious :) [10:42:58] either? [10:43:03] ;-) [10:43:22] ...trying to use semantic mediawiki [10:43:29] FreeNom: I have just started to play with SMW, and hte lack of a chat room is annoying to me ;-) [10:43:32] and learning all the time [10:43:42] :) [10:43:52] FreeNom: join #semantic-mediawiki !!! [10:44:04] its the home of ACTION! [10:44:09] oh, there's a channel? [10:44:14] didn't know [10:44:21] not really.. but we can make one... [10:44:32] ok, :D [10:45:00] though, haven't got much time atm... [10:45:09] nm [10:45:14] just loiter ;-) [10:46:44] 03river * r27003 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/ (13 files in 5 dirs): [10:46:44] - language select form on bottom of page [10:46:44] - ja locatisation from tangotango [10:49:00] *Werdna loiters suspiciously. [10:51:08] 03river * r27004 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/web/WEB-INF/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [10:51:08] - Norwegian translation from Christoffer Hafsahl [10:51:08] - fix langselect form [10:52:28] Werdna: cool [11:03:41] am i missing something, to set up a shared file upload? http://rafb.net/p/hBYeVu22.html [11:04:07] the shared wiki (wiki_de) puts its files into its own database :( [11:14:29] 03(mod) PEAR.php is not exist... - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11806 (10robchur) [11:15:06] How do I create a page that's only viewable by Sysop's ? [11:17:49] SlimG2, You can't do it one by one [11:18:06] SlimG2 !access [11:18:13] !access [11:18:13] For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [11:19:10] SlimG2, but you can white list some pages and lock all wikipedia pages for read or do vice-versa [11:23:03] thanks for the info Soroush [11:23:53] SlimG2, You're welcome. There are some extensions like Lockdown you might want to test them [11:25:11] I'll have a look at Lockdown too, thanks again :) [11:47:51] is there a possibility to share the interwiki database throught several wikis? [11:48:17] ugah [11:51:17] all using a separate dbprefix sofar :) [11:53:08] Nikerabbit: come to think of it... did you have a stroke? can you type one sentence of english for me? (before I dial 911) [11:53:30] havvg: in theory it is possible [11:53:46] havvg: mysql? [11:53:52] örörör [11:54:14] yes mysql [11:58:53] create symbolic links to atbles [11:59:15] hampster [12:01:11] heya! I have a problem, i'm trying to move mediawiki to a new server. When i bring the database from old one to a new one. It doest bring all the data, no idea why [12:01:27] faceface, you mean in the filesystem [12:01:34] or can mysql do this itsself? [12:04:28] Cryx: i have just migrated from 1 server to another. exporting the mysql db in commandline and reimporting it via commandline worked as supposed. what exactly is your problem while mooving the mysql data ? [12:04:37] importing via phpmyadmin [12:04:46] why are you using phpmyadmin ? [12:04:53] cause its easy :P [12:04:56] isnt phpmyadmin limited regarding big mysql files ? [12:05:04] timeout and similar problems ? [12:05:08] the database aint huge [12:05:13] define [12:05:28] 857kb [12:05:35] phpmyadmin is limited to less then 2mb mysql files via browser if i remember correctly [12:05:48] mh...well anyways...try the cli way :D [12:05:51] which you can change :) [12:05:56] (the limit) [12:05:58] havvg: yeah :D [12:06:17] but basicly i would ever try to use cli for mysql ex&imports [12:06:23] me 2 :) [12:06:32] just my idea...do whatever you think [12:06:44] but as it seems like you have trouble...give it a try ::D [12:08:02] anyone has experiences with shared imageupload? [12:22:08] i'm not sure if i want to do this, but just wondering if it would be possible to get data into mediawiki from a DB. for example i wanted to make an template where the user would fill in a ID#, then could i get some data from a DB with SQL just by using templates? or would i go about making an extension which would then parse something like id=# which would be in a template? [12:23:16] hmmh, this is weirdo... when i use the mysqlhotcopy for backing up the database it gievs me thons of files... is it supposed to do that? [12:24:22] 03(NEW) Set favicon for Wikimania sites - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11807 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny_b) [12:25:45] Cryx: one per table, iirc [12:33:00] weird shit, eventough used mysqldump and imported with command line too it doesnt bring all the data atleast recent changes doesnt show anything [12:34:45] and some of the users are imported and some are not [12:36:58] brb [12:37:09] dfp: yes, that should be pretty easy with a parser tag extension [12:38:22] flyingparchment, can you think of any simple extensions that work something like what i described? something that i could take a look at (the source code) [12:38:31] not off hand [12:39:42] flyingparchment, does my idea sound any good for wikis? :) [12:39:53] or i am i thinking in the completely wrong way [12:40:16] dfp: depends on what you're doing exactly, it seems reasonable though [12:40:48] dfp: if you are only getting data from the db, its probably feasable. not sure if a generic extension exists for it. would be nice to have [12:41:02] as soon as you also want to update the db through the wiki interface, things get really tricky [12:41:23] then you get into wikidata territory - which exists, but has by now become a fork and partial rewrite of mediawiki [12:41:45] Duesentrieb, yup, i'm only looking to get data from the outside source [12:42:13] currently thinking of getting for example customer data based on only a customer ID [12:42:25] select * from customer where id = 7 [12:42:28] *flyingparchment hides [12:42:45] uugh, need to hide the SQL :) [12:43:28] fp: well, the extension would need to have two parts: a template processor, filling in a template with the data from the db rows, and a way to specify the db query. the former is doable (the News extension does this, but only for data from the rc table), the latter is tricky to do safely. [12:43:40] dfp--^ [12:44:01] one way to make it reasonably safe would be to stuff the sql into system messages, and reference them from the tags. [12:44:04] like this: [12:44:35] * {{{id}}}: {{{name}}}, {{{date}}} [12:44:46] would be kind of neat, actually [12:45:16] now... the query itself could again have parameters, which could be filled in from attributes specified in the tag. [12:45:24] hm... this is getting a bit more complicated, but interesting :=) [12:47:04] i think i'll have to save this log and see what i really want to do, since i really am not sure what i want yet :) [12:53:17] 03(NEW) Decimal point / Comma inconsistent in geo coordinate - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [13:01:07] 03(mod) Decimal point / Comma inconsistent in geo coordinate - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [13:02:17] we have a corporate (internal) mediawiki, and we're setting up another one for a specific branch of the company [13:02:31] it'd be nice to be able to search both wiki's at once, and combine the results [13:02:38] is there any infrastructure for such things? [13:03:14] raboof: nope, but you could probably build an extension that could do it :) [13:03:27] hook in the search update calls and update a shared database [13:03:39] then make a custom search engine class which searches this other table [13:07:32] yeah, or perhaps I could leverage opensearch [13:09:04] mm, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenSearch - looks interesting [13:18:04] havvg: in the fs... might be a bit risky though... [13:18:22] think so too :) [13:18:43] havvg: should be OK though, because MySQL should apply table locking in the normal way [13:18:53] stress test on a dummy table ;-) [13:19:06] see if you can crash it [13:19:36] :D [13:19:58] havvg: or ask the ... weka people [13:20:12] they must have some tools for integrating all the separate wikies [13:20:37] k [13:20:46] do you know how to use shareduploads? [13:20:55] i got this http://rafb.net/p/hBYeVu22.html so far [13:20:57] not me [13:21:00] but it doesn't work :D [13:21:28] you put that in +1 wiki? [13:21:39] I mean >1 LocalSettings.php? [13:22:15] its a shared settingsfile, yes [13:22:27] so all wikis got this [13:22:31] how do you share settings files? [13:22:36] but put their files in their one database [13:22:52] by symlinking to another GlobalSettings.php [13:23:07] there i got a switch by script_filename [13:23:09] ok, symlinks. gotcha [13:23:22] oooookaaay [13:23:28] cos that would be a problem. [13:24:25] the symlinked settings file? [13:24:31] why? [13:24:33] I don't know why script path is really needed... [13:24:55] havvg: no it mean, it would be a problem if you didn't have the switch [13:25:13] ah :) [13:25:29] the switch just sets up the correct db, sitename and language code [13:25:42] OK [13:26:05] http://rafb.net/p/qMcw5e92.html eg [13:26:09] all I can suggest is that you try with a fixed set of LocalSettings files and read the manuall 100 times [13:26:23] ^^ [13:26:43] http://rafb.net/p/qMcw5e92.html how do you know when to change this? [13:26:51] like ... what switches? [13:28:12] http://rafb.net/p/878v5V65.html that way [13:29:04] ok [13:30:09] brion-office: looks like the CU log is skipping some entries again [13:43:46] 03(mod) Decimal point / Comma inconsistent in geo coordinate - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 04CRIT->normal (10minuteelectron) [13:45:13] i try to get the articles content by using this line of code, but it doesn't work anymore since I upgraded to 1.11.0: $text = $wgArticle->getContent(); : [13:50:28] 03brion * r27005 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.php: Revert r26993; unnecessary double declaration of variable [13:55:50] 14(INVALID) Image thumbnails don't preserve EXIF data - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11793 +comment (10brion) [13:58:20] 14(INVALID) New workaround JavaScript "diff.js" in 1.12alpha (r26409) interferes with wikEd - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 +comment (10brion) [14:12:31] *MinuteElectron is suprised how small the en.wikipedia all pages current version only dump is. [14:12:53] .4GB to go. [14:13:17] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 +comment (10yann) [14:13:43] And also 250KBS is good. [14:32:01] hello [14:33:28] faceface, i got it [14:33:40] using views in the "slave" wikis "linking" to the master wiki :) [14:33:51] for interwiki and images :) [14:42:09] 03river * r27006 10/trunk/tools/toolserver-sso/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [14:42:09] - 'reset password' function [14:42:09] - log in the user on account creation [14:42:09] - return to profile link on password change page [14:45:05] Haha 45 minutes to un bzip2 wikipeda current. [14:45:25] ugh [14:51:33] MinuteElectron: took me nearly an hour last time i did it, you must have a faster box :) [14:51:42] hehe [14:54:12] Hi, somebody here who can maybe answer my question above? [14:54:20] gh [14:54:25] demagggus: Please repeat. [14:54:39] peat [14:54:39] i try to get the articles content by using this line of code, but it doesn't work anymore since I upgraded to 1.11.0: $text = $wgArticle->getContent(); [14:54:40] peat [14:54:52] how doesn't it work... [14:55:03] NotACow: How many gigabytes did it expand too? [14:55:11] NotACow: NotARabbit sends you a letter [14:55:13] MinuteElectron: i dont recall [14:55:20] I reckon it will be about 8GB by the time I finish. [14:55:25] demagggus: "10:04 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Nickname: UncleJimbob [14:55:28] 10:04 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered: 28 weeks 4 days (16h 37m 55s) ago [14:55:31] 10:04 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last Seen: 3 weeks 6 days (23h 1m 5s) ago [14:55:34] 10:04 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last Seen Address: i=kmw@unaffiliated/unclejimbob [14:55:37] eek [14:55:40] demagggus: "In general, you should use the Revision class, not Article, to fetch text for purposes other than page views." [14:56:13] demagggus: that's from the comments to Article::getContent() [14:56:20] Nikerabbit: i get a emtpy page [14:57:19] demagggus: totally empty? [14:57:25] turn up error reporting [14:58:30] Nikerabbit: Fatal error: Call to a member function getContent() on a non-object [14:58:54] yeah [14:58:58] make that 12gb [14:59:09] demagggus: did you remember to use global $wgArticle? [14:59:29] NotACow: yes, i did [15:02:34] NotACow: how can I fetch the content by using the Revision class? [15:03:14] demagggus: i'm not really sure :) [15:03:49] demagggus: more accurately, i'm afraid to make suggestions because i might give you advice that would apply to myrtle but not to mediawiki :) [15:04:52] NotACow: :) [15:06:31] i've done some small amount of refactoring on Article [15:06:32] :) [15:15:38] hi [15:15:43] ugha [15:18:24] Is there a way to update all user prefs with a new skin (changing skin on the wiki... I ever changed default skin, but I can't access to user_options binary field easily) [15:18:26] ? [15:19:02] cedsib: yes if you're comfortable with mysql [15:19:27] jclerner: it is a binary field... I can't edit it with phpMyAdmin [15:19:30] something like: UPDATE wikiuser SET user_options = REPLACE(user_options, 'rows=4', 'rows=25'); [15:20:16] what are "rows = 4" and "rows =25" corresponding to ? [15:20:33] existing content, new content [15:21:06] isn't there maintenance script for that? [15:21:09] rows is one of the user_options [15:21:20] Nikerabbit: i think so [15:21:27] 03brion * r27007 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: Use fallback languages for message lookups [15:22:37] I can't find any skin linked maintenance script in /maintenance directory [15:23:20] is there a admin login for mediawiki, to set the rights [15:23:34] e.g. only admin can edit main pages like "imprint" [15:23:52] cedsib: i think it's maintenance/userOptions.php, but i haven't tried to use it [15:24:18] jclerner: thanks... looking for doc on it ;) [15:27:10] 03(FIXED) plenty of raw entities still - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11803 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:28:37] if that can help anybody: php5 userOptions.php skin --old monobook --new scoutwiki [15:28:42] thanks jclerner ;) [15:28:49] yw [15:34:59] 03(mod) Don't say whether user exists on incorrect login info, for wikis with no anonymous viewing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11757 (10roan.kattouw) [15:35:04] 04(REOPENED) New workaround JavaScript "diff.js" in 1.12alpha (r26409) interferes with wikEd - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 +comment (10oq9pscb02) [15:35:17] ugga pugga [15:37:26] whee [15:37:37] whii [15:37:39] *NotACow rewrites one UTF-8 function to use UTF-16 [15:38:41] 03evan * r27008 10/trunk/extensions/SpecialForm/ (SpecialForm.body.php SpecialForm.i18n.php TODO): [15:38:41] Enable multiple output articles. [15:38:41] Enable multiple output articles for one form; for example, an article and [15:38:41] its talk page. [15:41:38] + 'formindexmismatch' => 'Form Definition Index Mismatch', [15:41:39] + 'formindexmismatch' => 'This form has mismatched name patterns and templates starting at index $1.', [15:41:46] Hey. Is it possible to get a download counter plug-in for your wiki? Like for files that are on pages. [15:42:39] !extensions | JAStewart [15:42:39] JAStewart : MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for details on writing an extension and for an overview of known extensions. [15:43:07] 3GB => 13GB [15:43:28] 'ouch' [15:44:32] 03yaron * r27009 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageFa.php: New Persian-language file, courtesy of Ghassem Tofighi [15:44:59] 03yaron * r27010 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageEn.php: Added 'edit_source' variable [15:45:48] 03yaron * r27011 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_EditData.php: Fixed bugs, including major hook-failure bug [15:46:27] 03yaron * r27012 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.inc: "Category" namespace no longer hardcoded for English [15:47:23] 03yaron * r27013 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: [15:47:23] Added anonymous-edit warning to top of form, variable initializations to [15:47:23] avoid PHP "notice" messages [15:48:32] 03yaron * r27014 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Settings.php: Added three more global variables for handling of edit tabs [15:59:44] According to my calculations 3 hours to import the English Wikipedia. [16:00:12] So far it has taken 4 hours, so an estimated total time for forking English Wikipedia is going to be about 9 hours. [16:00:45] MinuteElectron: heh [16:01:00] MinuteElectron: plus images... [16:01:08] BrokenArrow: oops, forgot them. [16:01:32] Although I think it would have been benefitial to pipe the un-bzip2-er rather than do it seperatley since now I have 13GB of XML. [16:01:33] *BrokenArrow wonders if MinuteElectron has a couple of spare TB [16:01:38] :( [16:01:42] *MinuteElectron wishes he did. [16:02:23] What I don't get is why the pages per a second reading gets progressively smaller - it went from 96 to 40 in about 9,000 pages. [16:02:32] *MinuteElectron will just leave it to get on on its own. [16:02:54] buffers filling up, probably. [16:03:09] Aye. [16:08:47] does any one knows how to connect the wiki to active directory ??? [16:09:11] !ldap [16:09:36] @search ldap [16:09:36] Results: [] [16:09:38] !ldap is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [16:09:38] Successfully added keyword: ldap [16:09:42] !ldap | amirf [16:09:42] amirf : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [16:09:44] :D [16:09:53] mwbot is just so cool ;) [16:10:08] MinuteElectron: the more stuff you have in an index, the longer it takes to add ore to it [16:10:21] NotACow: Oh? Why is that? [16:10:33] MinuteElectron: as the index grows, it becomes more complex. [16:10:41] Ahh, interesting. [16:10:54] MinuteElectron: most indices are multilayered, so as you add more entries, additional levels of indirection are added to the index [16:10:55] 03yaron * r27015 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: Added handling for the new edit-tab-handling variables [16:11:08] hmm [16:11:21] for most reasonable indexing strategies, insert time is logarithmic to the number of entries already in the index [16:11:34] 03yaron * r27016 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version - 0.7.1 [16:11:36] :S [16:12:00] less reasonable strategies are linear :) [16:12:02] when i login on firefox i get a red question mark next to my username and my talk but when i login in IE7 i don't... whats up with this? Any ideas? [16:12:07] ok... [16:13:39] locke: ff is mad? [16:13:59] faceface: mad? [16:14:06] crazy! [16:14:41] clear the cache in both? [16:14:50] yes, did that [16:15:10] then i log in on vmware fusion and used FF and it is doing the same thing [16:15:13] but not in IE7 [16:15:37] locke: where? [16:16:16] i.e. wiki and uname [16:16:41] if i use the Monobook style then my uname and "my talk" will be red and have a red question mark next to each [16:17:05] yes [16:17:19] except for the question mark [16:17:52] any idea why this is happening? [16:17:55] unless you have specified " Format broken links like this (alternative: like this?)." [16:18:11] locke: need to know what wiki in question it is and what your uname is [16:18:40] well the wiki local on my machine right now [16:18:44] ok [16:19:06] i have sysop is there anything i can go in and check? [16:19:07] then, if you havn't created a user page, then your nick will be a redlink [16:19:24] similar to your talk page [16:19:39] ok, that also includes the red question mark as well? [16:19:51] no [16:20:04] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10roozbeh) [16:20:06] it should either be a question mark, or a redlink [16:20:11] dont think it should be both [16:20:30] ok well since it is, where should i start looking as to why this is occuring [16:28:03] 50,000/~2,000,000 - ~1,950,000 remain. [16:28:05] haha [16:29:40] MinuteElectron: on what? [16:30:06] Importing the English Wikipedia into my database. [16:30:10] This is going to take forever. [16:30:10] haha [16:30:12] MinuteElectron: arent' you forgetting a couple million redirects, perhaps? :=) [16:30:24] Oh? [16:30:50] MinuteElectron: are you importing the full db? [16:30:58] it's over 10 million pages [16:31:01] Even if you are importing ns-0 only, redirects are still there... [16:31:07] Just the latest versions of each thing. [16:31:18] BrokenArrow: You have got to be kidding me... [16:31:19] MinuteElectron: main space only? [16:31:26] Yeah. [16:31:28] ok [16:31:42] that's around 3-4 million entries [16:31:50] eeks [16:32:18] MinuteElectron: no kidding. [16:32:36] :S [16:32:39] ask a TS user for a count (*) if you don't believe me :) [16:32:50] ok [16:32:57] 03(mod) Install Labeled Section Transclusion extension on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 (10le.korrigan) [16:33:01] I think I need to get on with something while this imports. [16:42:40] hi guys [16:43:03] is there some place I can find the logs for my mediawiki site? [16:43:42] Is it possible to change the name of a page? [16:44:02] I mean like change the link name, without blanking out its contents? [16:44:32] With a redirect or with "rename" ? [16:45:07] rename sounds best... [16:45:23] Push the move tab at the top of the page. [16:45:45] I editted a page, but now it doesn't appear anymore (white screen), so I think mediawiki crashes [16:45:54] but how to tell where, which and how? [16:46:16] MinuteElectron: there is no move tab [16:46:36] as you can see: http://zuesworks.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [16:47:38] 03(NEW) More numbers should use formatNum - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11809 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (roozbeh) [16:50:09] Solifugus: are you logged in? [16:50:53] no..... [16:52:30] BrokenArrow: ok.. logged in.. still, I don't see any "move" tab [16:52:57] This is a fairly recent.. completely stock install of mediawiki... [16:53:04] no customizations [16:53:05] Has the page been move-protected, perhaps? [16:53:22] I didn't do anything but start editing... since the install [16:53:32] don't even know how ot move-protect [16:54:15] Is your account a normal or sysop one? It *is* ossible to restrict moves to normal users having registered since 4 days or more, or sysops" but I don'tthink that's in the standard config [16:58:29] Solifugus: I see the move button on the main page. [16:59:13] how? I only see Article, Discussion, Edit, and History [16:59:16] Where? [16:59:24] Solifugus: two to the right of the edit button [16:59:28] 03(NEW) Displayed semicolons should be localizable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11810 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (roozbeh) [16:59:29] which page are you on. [16:59:39] the main page [17:00:12] hee [17:00:14] don't see it on any other pages, though... [17:00:29] go to the top right, is it saying your username? [17:00:43] makesafe and unmakesafe are a LOT simpler in java (mainly because Java is UTF-16 and because java has native methods for fiddling with surrogates) [17:02:04] Solifugus: I think it's logged you out for some strange reason, try logging out and back in again; make sure it says your logged in at the top right of the screen. [17:02:43] eyaluth: I logged in again..... it doesn't say my username.. even right after logging in [17:03:01] When you logging click the "remember me" [17:03:37] 03rotem * r27017 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: Now it is not a double declaration. [17:04:31] I have a mediawiki server (version 1.9.3) and recently the search stopped working [17:04:40] Is there any way to debug searches? [17:05:15] eyaluth: that worked! [17:05:25] Solifugus: Excellent. [17:05:33] or any way to record SQL queries [17:05:49] eyaluth: I usually never click "remember me" buttons so no one else will automatically be me if they use the same computer... [17:06:03] eyaluth: seems like an evil setting to me... so i always get annoyed by it [17:06:15] Solifugus: Its usually fine not to; but, some servers have trouble setting cookies properly. [17:06:21] 03brion * r27018 10/trunk/extensions/OAI/OAIHarvest.php: Apply probably not very inefficient check for dupe revisions on submit. [17:06:38] eyaluth: i see.. yes.. this server does seem to have an issue with that [17:08:43] okay [17:09:03] does mediawiki do any error logging at all ? [17:12:55] is there a way to rebuild the search index? [17:20:56] Jesse408: give a look in the maintenance directory, there's something possibly relevant [17:21:13] yah I figured that out [17:21:14] thx [17:21:23] :) [17:21:50] does that script need to be run every day or will the search index maintain itself [17:23:49] I don't know for sure, but I suppose it's self-maintaining [17:26:34] 03brion * r27019 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: fix premature optimization which broke thigns and made only the first quote show :D [17:29:44] 03brion * r27020 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: skip the random generator when only one string [17:30:26] re [17:34:59] I don't get it... I can't correctly upload any image files (The resulting page is blank, but the image ends up in images/ anyway) and I can't use any of the uploaded images (If I use Image:name.jpg then the resulting wiki page is blank [17:35:16] I tried checking the logs, I see no errors, just a ton of "stub" messages [17:36:41] if there is any mediawiki guru looking in this channel, please advice... [17:42:08] 03brion * r27021 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/OutputHandler.php): * (bug 11795) Be more paranoid about confirming accept-encoding header is present [17:42:15] 03(FIXED) wfGzipHandler HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING should have an isset() check - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11795 +comment (10brion) [17:44:04] grumble grumble, at the current rate importing Wikipedia will take 26 hours - but it is degrading by .2 pages/second every 1,000 pages. [17:49:05] 03(mod) Can not annotate with properties using Cyrillic letters (????? ??) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11804 (10some_777) [17:49:49] 03(mod) Split patrolling into new page patrolling and recent changes patrolling - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1405 (10mrzmanwiki) [17:55:26] 03(mod) Create Limburgish Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11760 04BLOCKER->15enhancement; +comment (10jeluf) [17:56:21] 03(FIXED) Portal namespace for Vietnamese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11764 +comment (10jeluf) [18:06:15] hi all, I just installed mediawiki on my ubuntu machine, but have no idea how to configure it, any clues [18:07:04] 03(mod) non-breaking space in an article name making it unreachable through the web - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11802 summary; +comment (10brion) [18:07:14] shirish: installed = run the initial config? [18:07:26] BrokenArrow: how? [18:07:48] BrokenArrow: haven't done any php stuff ever, you're talking to a noob/newbie here [18:09:17] point your browser to your site/machine, in the directory you unpacked MW into. [18:09:49] BrokenArrow: I didn't unpack it anywhere, I just installed it through the repository [18:10:42] is that a packaged distribution? probably oldish... It should appear somewhere under your www root, anyway [18:10:56] hello [18:16:10] BrokenArrow: have no idea what you are talking about? Where should the www root be anyway ? [18:16:31] the one which I have got is apparently 1.10 [18:18:03] Not bad. I'm assuming a Linux install, you should have something like /var/html/www/whatever - on windows, you have may more prerequisites [18:18:30] BrokenArrow: its a gnu/linux install [18:19:33] BrokenArrow: there is only a /var/www/apache2-default with stuff under it but no /www under it. [18:20:20] anything that looks like mediawiki? I don't know where your favorite package manager would put it [18:20:32] BrokenArrow: there is no /var/html in the first place, its /var/www [18:20:57] BrokenArrow: I'm using aptitude I can give you the paste of where things are [18:21:32] What the page for seeing what extensions have been installed in a wiki? [18:21:35] probably not much use since I'm using a Windows install [18:21:44] eyaluth: Special:Version [18:21:47] Thanks [18:24:01] shirish: anyway, try to understand where your webserver root is and work down from there. [18:25:00] BrokenArrow: I don't know where my webserver root is, any idea how to find that out. [18:25:43] 03(mod) Ipblocklist search doesn't find autoblocks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 (10brovvnout+wikibugzilla) [18:26:04] what do you see if you just type "localhost" in your browser address window? [18:27:38] apache2-default [18:28:23] BrokenArrow: apache2-default directory & going in, it says it works [18:28:57] BrokenArrow: btw this is where the stuff is http://pastebin.ca/753998 [18:30:30] BrokenArrow: any ideas? [18:32:34] shirish: not really, I don't know why hyou have a partial copy of the files in 2 places. [18:46:18] 03rotem * r27022 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialProtectedpages.php: Adding direction mark in Special:Protectedpages, between the page name and the size. [18:47:35] BrokenArrow: do you mean between /usr/share/mediawiki1.10 & /var/lib or what? [18:48:54] yes. you should porbably have / make a link from something below apache2-default to one of those dirs. but I'm not familiar wit that setup, really. [18:55:27] I select the "nofollow" attribute for the external links, but I search how to target="_blank", there is an option or need an extension ? [18:58:58] 03(mod) Install Labeled Section Transclusion extension on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 (10ssanbeg) [19:04:30] hello [19:05:10] is there a script to get visit statistics out of the database? [19:15:09] Hello, I'm wondering whether there's any premade code or template I can use to overlay locator images or text on other images... [19:16:52] 03yaron * r27023 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_EditData.php: Re-adding "return false" line - how does it keep getting removed? [19:39:19] 03(mod) Install Labeled Section Transclusion extension on fr.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 (10le.korrigan) [19:39:46] 03gmaxwell * r27024 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialNewpages.php: [19:39:46] Adjust "hide logged-in users" function in Special:Newpages to only display if [19:39:46] the createpage permission is enabled by default. This avoids displaying a [19:39:46] useless option on wikis with anonymous page creation disabled, and avoids a slow [19:39:46] attempt to scan all of recent changes to fill a query limit that can't be met. [19:40:28] 03(mod) Showing also articles in the CategoryTree of categories in he-wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11776 (10yonidebest) [19:40:43] <[Hyarion]> has anyone successfully been able to create an offline reader for their wiki? There seem to be a lot of different projects out there, but they all seem to be half finished. [19:52:20] 300,000 [20:01:49] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 (10cbrown1023) [20:27:14] hey everyone [20:27:26] is here a admin of mediawiki? [20:27:49] Juje007: please state your question. [20:28:17] we're all admins of mediawikis \o/ [20:28:30] lol [20:28:33] k [20:28:39] +projekts :-) [20:28:52] i have a question about the copyright [20:29:16] MediaWiki is a good program but i cant handle it good :( [20:29:31] so i modified it to a easy [20:29:39] but can i do that [20:30:01] <[Hyarion]> yep [20:30:25] do you need a copyright i think yes or... [20:30:30] no [20:30:31] 03(mod) Showing also articles in the CategoryTree of categories in he-wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11776 +shell (10minuteelectron) [20:30:34] it's GPL [20:31:11] k ty annyway :) [20:31:40] you must only say wich work you have taken means naming of the auther [20:31:54] k [20:33:09] is anyone around? [20:38:02] domas: yes [20:38:43] good. [20:38:50] <[Hyarion]> Anyone know if there is an offline reader for MW that doesn't require someone to install their own web server? [20:39:11] 03gmaxwell * r27025 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [20:39:11] Resolve bug 1405 (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1405). New [20:39:11] option $wgUseNPPatrol allows for patrolling of new pages for projects where the [20:39:11] overall editing rate is too high to make patrolling useful in the general case. [20:39:11] This change is based on the patch by Thue Janus Kristensen. [20:39:46] oh, so patrolling already failed? [20:39:49] nice to hear that! [20:40:14] domas: What's up? [20:40:49] I'm here! :) [20:42:40] heh [20:42:51] n8 [20:43:03] bye [20:43:27] bye! [20:44:18] 03(FIXED) Split patrolling into new page patrolling and recent changes patrolling - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1405 +comment (10gmaxwell) [20:51:33] anyone know of a way to get opml output from MediaWiki? [20:52:07] !extensions | jclerner [20:52:07] jclerner : MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for details on writing an extension and for an overview of known extensions. [20:52:18] MinuteElectron: yeah, i looked [20:52:22] i didn't see anything there [20:52:28] so, no then. [20:52:31] 03rotem * r27026 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [20:52:36] You can write your own however., [20:52:39] yah [20:55:58] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 +comment (10pdsanchez) [21:04:14] 14(WFM) non-breaking space in an article name making it unreachable through the web - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11802 +comment (10mashiah.davidson) [21:07:28] 03(mod) non-breaking space in an article name making it unreachable through the web - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11802 +comment (10kr.solon) [21:34:22] 400,000 [21:34:38] That is aproximatley 90,000 pages an hour. [21:40:46] what file is $wgLogo in? [21:41:07] LocalSettings.php [21:41:08] Here's to Green Bay not totally blowing chunks tonight! [21:41:10] add it at the end of the file [21:42:57] flyingparchment: worked. thanks. [21:48:48] Holy shit. [21:48:51] What is this? [21:49:05] My importing reached an all time low speed and now it is getting faster. [21:49:34] Oh dear, I think mwdumper borked. [21:49:55] *cctoide calls 911 [21:50:05] Nope, my server connection died. [21:50:14] send mwdumper output to a file first.. that way it's easy to resume when it breaks ;) [21:50:22] I am totally pissed off now. [21:50:50] FFS [21:51:09] My computer spends 6 hours chearning up 450,000 revisions and then the mysql server disappears. [21:51:26] HA Sucks to be me. [21:51:30] flyingparchment: What do you mean? [21:51:38] mwdump >file; mysql oh, right. [21:52:00] or even mwdumper | tee file | mysql [21:52:06] That is more inteligent. [21:52:42] But I can't be bothered now, I realised that Semantic MediaWiki isn't automatic so my idea doesn't have any potential. [21:53:38] So now I am going to delete 10 hours of processor time. :P [21:58:08] lol [22:14:23] can somebody tell me, how to get the articles content by using the revision-class? [22:15:32] Demagggus: What do you mean? [22:18:50] I want to check the content of an article for the occurence of a special syntax (e.g. tags)...therefore I have to get the content within the parser function...haven't I? [22:38:35] 03siebrand * r27027 10/trunk/phase3/ (16 files in 3 dirs): [22:38:35] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [22:38:35] * cy, dsb, gan, gl, hr, hsb, inh, is, ja, kn, myv (new), pms, qu, vo [22:56:07] how do I make my wiki have case-insensitive article names? [22:56:26] unpossible [22:56:31] I'm looking at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings but can't find the setting anymore... [22:56:43] really? I thought I'd seen that before [22:56:47] nope [22:56:58] there's $wgCapitalLinks, but it's the opposite of what you want, it makes the first letter case sensitive [22:57:32] oh. really. [22:57:51] I'm surprised I went so many years thinking that feature existed. [22:58:19] mediawiki tries to be clever with searching, e.g. if you type 'george bush' in the search box it'll try 'George Bush' and a few other variations [23:00:06] how about accessing URL directly? [23:00:35] always case sensitive [23:00:41] if an article is called My Funny Page a.k.a. My_Funny_Page and someone accesses/links to My_funny_page? [23:00:48] oh :-| [23:01:38] hmm [23:01:42] well crap :-) [23:04:11] nite all... [23:14:15] hey guys [23:14:37] I've set up mediawiki and my browser to edit .dia files via an external editor [23:15:11] is it now possible to instruct mediawiki to convert these into image files (.jpg/.png/.svg) when I upload or reference them ? [23:16:21] anyone? [23:16:52] dpy: if you can use the same mechanism that's used fot .svgs (external conversion) why not? [23:18:06] what do you mean? [23:18:46] .dia is the source format, sources are to be authoritive and stored on the wiki [23:19:14] derivative formats, like .png and .svg are just for viewing or printing when embedded in a page [23:20:33] isn't that similar to what the thumbnailing mechanism does to SVGs inside MediaWiki? You never see the actual .SVG unless you look at it directly, what you access is a .pgn thumbnail done by an external program (rsvg, imagemagick, etc.) [23:21:14] oh, but that's not so good [23:21:21] .svg is best used for printing [23:21:23] not .png [23:21:45] my browser can render .svg, so I'd rather not have mediawiki replace it by .png [23:22:14] dpy: so you are the only one who is looking at your wiki? [23:22:22] also, I only see one file to be configured for the conversion, which currently is imagemagick's convert, which cannot be used for .dia files [23:22:46] Duesentrieb: well I'd like to have an option, use .svg or .png [23:22:52] dpy: embedded svg would be nice to have as an option, yes. but we don'Ät have it, because there's no goo&reliable way to tell if the browser supports it, and to serve the right file for each browser accordingly [23:23:00] (preferrably the .svg for printing ) [23:23:22] if your browser supports svg, then you should probably use it for everything.... [23:23:33] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 +comment (10leon) [23:23:49] dpy: basically: media handeling in mediawiki is not flexible enough for this right now. i hope it will be soon. [23:23:59] dpy: I was only suggesting that the infrastructure for on-the-fly conversion and thumbnailing is already there, so it's probably extendable without much trouble. [23:24:13] dpy: and if svg support gets more widely available, the embedded svg is getting more likely for mediawiki [23:24:15] Duesentrieb: well, okay, but how can I tell mediawiki to use a different program to convert .dia files [23:24:49] so, use for .dia and /usr/bin/convert for the rest [23:24:54] can I do this? [23:25:03] dpy: not easily. you'd have to write a handler for it. perhaps ask timstarling about it, he recently added audio/video playback [23:25:43] well, doing it with a custom tag is also possible, yes. but would require more coding on your part, probably. but you'd have more freedom as to how you want to implement it [23:25:52] but it will require coding, one way or the other [23:25:53] busy [23:26:11] tim: yust tell him what file to read :P [23:26:15] how does it work btw, I now have: Image:Testdiagram.dia [23:26:34] would I reference it as Image:Testdiagram.png to start the on-the-fly conversion? [23:26:45] no. [23:27:02] dpy: if mediawiki recognizes the file type as "renderable", it would start a renderer, and serve whatever the renderer spits out [23:27:04] pointers will be much appreciated [23:27:31] Duesentrieb: everytime it is retrieved? [23:27:34] no caching? [23:27:37] well... you can start by looking at the Image.php file, and dig your way out from there :)but it's not trivial [23:27:41] no. [23:27:45] all rendered files are cached [23:27:49] that's part of the framework [23:27:54] ok, thank goodness [23:27:58] look at Linker::makeImageLinkObj [23:28:01] in Linker.php [23:28:04] if mediawiki is good at something, it's caching :) [23:28:08] k, tnx, I will [23:28:27] it's a lot better than twiki, I can tell you that [23:28:28] or even further back, in Parser::makeImage [23:28:42] the fun thing is: mediawiki isn't really great at media. [23:28:43] TimStarling: tnx alot [23:28:47] basically if you want to render different formats, you should pass a format parameter to File::transform() [23:28:50] i'm still wondering who came up with that name [23:28:58] 03siebrand * r27029 10/trunk/extensions/ (45 files in 41 dirs): [23:28:58] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [23:28:58] * Fixes and additions to 41 extensions for gl, hr, ja, pl, pms [23:29:03] deciding what format to use should be done closer to the UI, in either Linker or Parser [23:29:11] Duesentrieb: first the name, then the implementation [23:29:35] at the moment, none of our formats have any decision of that kind, the rendering format is always fixed according to the source format [23:29:56] but you could make it configurable using an image link parameter, e.g. [[Image:Foo.dia|format=png]] [23:30:12] ah good idea [23:30:14] I like that [23:30:15] or you could pass a parameter right through from the top level, indicating whether you're printing or not [23:30:31] and have the parser decide based on that whether to set the format or not [23:31:44] I'll look into it [23:32:27] I don't think it won't be too hard to put in. [23:33:07] I may need to upgrade to latest, since I'm a bit hesitant to hack in this older version [23:33:15] (1.10.1) [23:33:48] bbl [23:33:50] tnx