[00:00:22] jmanooch, depends on your host. If you have cPanel, that has some error logs. [00:01:02] no error logs [00:01:03] jmanooch, PHP error messages can be displayed instead of logged, if you like, using the display_errors config option. [00:01:10] I use go daddy, for my sins [00:02:26] ewww... I had a client who used them... they have very watered down, non-customizeable php installations [00:02:55] or at least did [00:03:00] error_reporting( E_ALL ); [00:03:00] header( "Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8" ); [00:03:00] @ini_set( "display_errors", true ); [00:03:01] not sure if that changed or whatever [00:03:11] is what my config says [00:03:55] is that not right? [00:04:27] jmanooch, that should display errors, yes. [00:04:31] If there are any. [00:04:36] but it doesn't [00:04:39] just blank screen [00:04:55] http://resourcevision.org/wiki/ [00:05:02] and on my other install [00:05:07] Try changing true to '1' in the ini_set line. [00:05:12] it says it can't write config [00:05:22] 03siebrand * r27187 10/trunk/extensions/ (49 files in 45 dirs): [00:05:22] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [00:05:22] * Fixes and additions to 45 extensions for pl, pms, pt, ro, sk, sr-ec, sr-el, su, sv, tet, tr, vi, wa, yue, zh-hans, zh-hant, zh-hk [00:05:22] * export format in extension Translate and indentation changed in a few i18n files (BookInformation, Patroller, SpamBlacklist, SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi, UsernameBlacklist, WebStore) [00:05:38] jmanooch, then you're screwed, complain to GoDaddy. [00:08:05] display_errors can't be set at runtime [00:08:34] I think you can use .htaccess, though, but again, I dunno how godaddy handles it. [00:08:35] slakr, yes it can, I do it all the time. [00:08:52] Simetrical > error_reporting can, but not display_errors [00:09:00] I'm telling you, I've done it. [00:09:05] *Simetrical tries again to make sure [00:09:18] Simetrical > you might be right... lemme rtfm real quick [00:09:46] Simetrical > http://us2.php.net/manual/en/ref.errorfunc.php#ini.error-reporting [00:09:52] it's possible the manual is outdated though [00:10:07] oh wait [00:10:10] n/m I read it wrong [00:10:15] *slakr smacks himself, sorry :( [00:10:38] I was thinking of the fatal error thing [00:10:53] nothing happens with ini_set parameter at 1 [00:10:54] which apparently then wouldn't matter if you used ini_set(). [00:15:51] 03siebrand * r27188 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Indent ContactPage and Duplicator [00:21:31] Hi [00:23:36] !ask [00:23:36] Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc [00:23:49] (unless you were just saying "hi" randomly and don't want any help) [00:27:03] RewriteRule ^wiki_path/(.+)$ /wiki_path/index.php?title=%1 [NE,L,QSA] - Does this take care of special characters like + and & [00:29:42] anybody? [00:29:52] Why don't you try it and see? [00:29:55] I imagine it would. [00:29:58] i tried [00:30:04] and i thought it worked 2 months ago [00:30:08] but it's not working today [00:30:52] short URLs is easy except for the problem with the special chars [00:31:16] So if anyone here knows about ReWrites - as they pertain to special chars - please help [00:31:41] Try #apache? [00:32:49] Topic for #apache is “Step one: Look in the error log :) Thanks, Simetrical. I'll try there [00:46:18] put-lake: don't put index.php in the same place as your article path [00:46:44] oh [00:47:44] my articlepath is currently $wgArticlePath = "/difference/$1"; [00:48:00] and my index.php is /difference/index.php [00:48:24] FUCKING WIKI [00:48:30] AAAaah, ça va mieux [00:48:45] put-lake: yeah, don't do that. use /wiki/Foo for articles and /w/index.php for the wiki, for example [00:49:29] Somebody can explain to me those two problems (on the top of the page and on the back)? [00:49:46] http://www.cittagazze.com/~wiki/index.php?title=Accueil [00:50:40] flyingparchment: Is that the solution for handling special characters like & and +? [00:50:54] Because short URLs are working fine for me except for the special chars [00:50:56] put-lake: no, but you should fix that before you start looking at other problems [00:52:04] flyingparchment: For example, http://www.diffen.com/difference/Affect_vs_Effect is working [00:52:25] http://www.diffen.com/difference/C_vs_C%2B%2B is working [00:52:26] put-lake: but what if you want to make a FAQ for your wiki? http://www.diffen.com/difference/FAQ [00:52:49] hmm..I make them special pages in MediaWiki [00:52:57] like http://www.diffen.com/difference/Special:Feedback [00:53:45] Nobody? [00:53:53] because even if I have articles in /difference/$1 and index.php in /wiki/index.php [00:54:14] then all my $1 will get redirected to /wiki/index.php?title=$1 [00:54:23] doesn't that apply to FAQ also? [00:54:31] yes, but index.php?title=FAQ will work fine [00:54:42] /difference/FAQ doesn't work, it displays the "FAQ" file from the mediawiki distribution [00:54:46] sei, i checked... whats the problem you see? [00:55:25] oh [00:55:34] i hadn't seen that flyingparchment [00:56:04] hello, elusive tim [00:56:20] hi, am I elusive? [00:56:27] well, you've not been around much [00:56:59] I was off IRC for most of yesterday, I was trying to fix windows on this computer [00:57:33] MadFrenchie : There is a... how to say... A blank with a - on the top, and down is there a blank too with "Cette page a été consultée 9 378 fois." [00:57:38] So flyingparchment, if i understand correctly, you are advising that the name as it appears in the URL should be different from the name of the directory in which MediaWiki is installed. Right? [00:57:41] I eventually succeeded, by pasting some obscene incantation from a forum [00:57:48] MadFrenchie : Tu parles français? [00:57:57] regsvr32 [00:58:07] And since it is the same right now, I should just rename my folder on the web server and tweak the .htaccess [00:58:12] Sei: Sounds like [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] is being misrendered at the top. [00:58:25] Patho \o/ [00:58:30] I've done a wrong thing [00:58:46] I've copy all the contant of the update 1.11 simply in the directory [00:58:48] And all replace [00:58:57] oh, and I'm in roughly a Sydney timezone [00:59:16] Aargh...but it will kill the URL paths that i have [00:59:24] on some of the custom pages [00:59:36] But before, I had done a backup, so I've replace again all the new folders by the old, but something turn probably wrong [01:00:04] so I've got a bit less overlap than before [01:00:45] In my backup, I don't have the config directories... [01:01:33] hum.. [01:01:36] you can always send me an email [01:01:48] (look here : http://www.cittagazze.com/~wiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges) [01:02:41] ok [01:04:18] :'( [01:04:34] put-lake: yes [01:05:14] :( I am moving all those files FAQ, HISTORY etc. to a different folder [01:05:31] that will be easier for me rather than move the whole thing... [01:06:02] so your getting a - at the top of every page? [01:06:03] is that it? [01:06:26] Yep [01:06:29] this is a no-brainer for sure, but when an install works and it says [01:06:32] And some bugs [01:06:38] move config/localsettings.php [01:06:39] etc [01:06:43] Like here : http://www.cittagazze.com/~wiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges [01:06:46] I cannot find any such file to move [01:06:58] yeah i see that [01:09:10] It looks like an issue with your CSS [01:09:53] are you talking to me Mad one? [01:10:51] nope... [01:10:56] sorry.. I was talking to Sei [01:12:05] And, you have a solution to propose to me? [01:12:13] Something to undo all the mess I do? [01:12:22] Id have to take a closer look at the code you have [01:14:58] I don't have time to do that right now though.. since I'm at work [01:15:08] but i can take a look at it in about 2 hours when i get home [01:16:26] I'll be in my bed... [01:17:04] haha.. ok [01:18:11] I'm driving mad... I've some frames everywere [01:21:36] ha [01:22:28] What I've done... I shouldn't touch things I don't understand... Yeah, I'll do that the next time... [01:24:56] I'll come back tomorrow and ask again for help... Sorry for my stupidity [01:30:00] Ok, so, good night [01:30:51] Incoming Question: why can I not find LocalApplications.php in order to start the blog [01:30:55] the wiki I mean [01:33:45] Could I upgrade mediawiki to resolve the problem? [01:34:02] TimStarling: and do you like sydney? did you move there or just temporary vacations / shortterm job? [01:34:39] we've moved here [01:34:48] I'm employed by the Wikimedia Foundation, it's not short term [01:35:41] *Sei will talk to his handkerchief box, maybe it know something... [01:35:55] Sei: You could plug a fresh installation into the database, and run the upgrade scripts. [01:36:18] Back up your wiki before you do that, though. [01:36:20] Yeah, I could... But how can I do that? [01:36:32] TimStarling: so you're going to think upside down now, right? ;-) [01:36:55] rightside up, you know I'm from here originally? [01:36:56] actually, i envy you a bit - you're going to have nice summer [01:37:05] !upgrade | sei [01:37:05] sei: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [01:37:23] It's ununderstandable!!! [01:38:37] Sei: If all else fails, you can pay a MediaWiki developer to upgrade it and fix it up for you. [01:39:24] I won't pay [01:39:58] Then you'll have to wrap your head around the documentation, however frustrating. We can't do much more than point you in the right direction. :) [01:40:12] If I knew how to fix your problem, I'd tell you. :) [01:40:20] I know :p [01:40:38] But the problem should fix itself if I simply could undo what I do [01:40:48] I installed mediawiki on my domain and moved the LocalSettings.php file to the parent directory and there's nothing on the page now http://www.salbug.org/mediawiki [01:40:49] Did you keep backups? [01:41:38] Yeah! I've allready replace the backup [01:41:49] But there is still this problem [01:41:51] any suggestions? [01:42:20] (my backup is only a simple ctrl+c, ctrl+v of all the wiki files) [01:43:08] Sei: Try editing "MediaWiki:Sitenotice" and saving it (don't need to change anything). [01:43:56] Where is it? [01:44:16] [01:46:26] Allright, no more frame on the top of the pages [01:47:06] But automatic text is still in frames (http://www.cittagazze.com/~wiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges) [01:47:48] Try editing LocalSettings.php; add a space or something. [01:48:11] a space... where? [01:48:22] so what about the config settings problem, post wiki set up` [01:48:43] Just stick one inside an existing /* comment */ or something. [01:49:51] Erf... [01:49:55] Nothing... [01:51:04] I have no idea. For some reasons there are 
 boxes everywhere.
[01:51:53] 	When I've tried to update
[01:52:29] 	I've paste all the content of the update .rar, replacing all the old files
[01:52:33] 	Was it right?
[01:53:48] 	...overwriting the configuration for your wiki?
[01:54:12] 	Well, it seems to work anyway. Did you run the update scripts?
[01:54:24] 	I don't know how to do
[01:54:54] 	First, do you have a backup of your wiki's database?
[01:55:10] 	If you upgrade messes up, you don't want to permanently lose half your content.
[01:55:37] 	I don't know... I've done a copy-paste of all the content of the folder I've access by FTP
[01:56:18] 	Do you have access to some sort of administrator interface for your domain, like CPanel?
[01:56:35] 	I don't think...
[01:56:46] 	How did you install MediaWiki?
[01:57:06] 	The admin install it and give me an FTP access to configure it
[01:57:27] 	Ask your admin to back up your database. You should never upgrade without backing up first.
[01:57:42] 	Ok... I can't backup by myself?
[01:57:52] 	Not if you only have FTP access.
[01:57:59] 	That's stupid...
[01:58:32] 	No; the database contains all the information for your wiki: configuration, user accounts & passwords & preferences, page content...
[01:58:39] 	You don't want everyone to have access to that.
[01:58:55] 	Yeah, but I've access to all the config of the wiki
[01:59:05] 	But I can't save it... That's stupid!
[01:59:24] 	Ask the admin for admin access. :p
[01:59:30] 	He he...
[02:00:00] 	So. I ask for a backup of the database, allright (I think he do that often)
[02:00:12] 	Yep.
[02:00:24] 	And, after?
[02:00:35] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script
[02:01:20] 	You can get the admin to run the upgrade script, or you can re-run the installer yourself.
[02:02:24] 	Make sure the database user has full rights to the database
[02:03:13] 	who is the database user?
[02:03:57] 	The user defined in LocalSettings.php
[02:04:05] 	It's the login for the database.
[02:05:08] 	Dear, never seen that...
[02:05:37] 	I've the login and the password of the database?
[02:05:50] 	Yep.
[02:06:28] 	But where will I need that?
[02:06:44] 	The upgrade script or installer will need it.
[02:07:07] 	I installed mediawiki and it said to move LocalSettings.php to parent directory I did and nothing.  any suggestions?
[02:07:50] 	But what is this upgrade script? How to launch it and how to find it?
[02:08:10] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script
[02:09:08] 	From the command line...
[02:11:49] 	OOOOOooooooh
[02:11:50] 	Dear!!!!
[02:12:02] 	That's such a simple think so bad explained!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:14:53] 	?
[02:15:30] 	That's ununderstandable
[02:15:53] 	or understandable but not easily
[02:35:01] 	Im sure I didnt do something because I dont see any thing but white when I go to my domain  http://www.salbug.org/mediawiki   can any one help .......is this the official mediawiki support channel?
[02:53:24] 	Do I have to somehow manually install the ParserFunctions?
[02:53:28] 	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions
[02:54:15] 	...yes, you do
[02:54:52] 	Oh, I just saw the "instilation" section... I looked over the page multiple times for that, but didn't see it. Oh well
[02:55:04] 	*installation
[03:21:57] 	hello
[03:22:09] 	I have mediawiki installation..
[03:22:21] 	when i was editing a document, firefox CRASHED...
[03:22:35] 	since then, mediawiki IS NOT ANSWERING anymoire...
[03:22:45] 	it seems stupid.... but it's really wierd
[03:22:53] 	any clues?
[03:24:23] 	BibTeX: I've never had that happen; try restarting your apache?
[03:24:57] 	Actually I cannot because the server is not mine... GoDaddy
[03:25:21] 	if I put an html file under the sites root, I am able to access it
[03:26:23] 	:s
[03:27:53] 	it's possible godaddy's having issues right now; another user reported issues earlier
[03:32:25] 	i c
[03:32:30] 	I hope so
[03:32:35] 	:) thx anyway
[03:33:47] 	is there a way to FLUSH mediawiki while keeping the DB?
[03:36:26] 	you mean just update the software?
[03:37:05] 	update or maybe RESET
[03:37:41] 	you just unzip the newest version (or any version), move it to the correct place, and update LocalSettings
[03:38:24] 	that method should probably only be used with the same version, actually
[03:40:36] 	i c
[03:40:55] 	so LocalSettings should point to the new INDEX.PHP
[03:40:56] 	?
[03:43:04] 	LocalSettings needs to have the appropriate passwords and info set in it
[03:43:24] 	and should be in the same directory as the new index.php
[03:45:52] 	Is there a problem with how mediawiki handles # in page titles?  If I try to search for an article, say, #soldat.devs and it doesn't find it... I try to create the page but I don't think it urlencodes the # correctly and instead the browser then treats it as an anchor
[03:46:07] 	you can't have a page with # in the title
[03:46:54] 	it still doesn't handle creating the page in an appropriate manner though
[03:47:05] 	There is no page titled "#soldat.devs". You can create this page.
[03:47:14] 	not true and the "create this page" link doesn't work
[03:47:41] 	"Showing below 3 results starting with #1."
[04:01:52] 	I've got no problem with the fact that pages aren't allowed to contain #, but I do have a problem with the fact that it isn't handled gracefully
[04:16:01] 	03(NEW) Searching for a term with # in it is not handled gracefully - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11872 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (flieslikeabrick)
[04:24:36] 	03(mod) Searching for a term with # in it is not handled gracefully - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11872  +comment (10flieslikeabrick)
[04:32:18] 	03(NEW) Form titles are not getting prineted correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11873 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[04:33:38] 	03(mod) Form titles are not getting prineted correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11873  15enhancement->minor (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[04:33:55] 	Does anybody have a link to instruct me on making the sidebar have the expanded choices (the little arrows that open up when you mouse over)
[04:34:07] 	03(mod) Form titles are not displayed correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11873  summary (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[04:36:12] 	FSHSchmo: Example?
[04:36:40] 	http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Lorebook_home under game info Pathoschild
[04:38:58] 	this gives some clues: http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar
[04:39:57] 	Ah, didnt even think about looking there
[04:44:09] 	FSHSchmo: Looks like it's done with this: http://images.lorebook.lotro.com/js/official.js
[04:45:16] 	Ah so adding to my sidebar page wont have that effect, I need that script?
[04:45:58] 	Not all of it; you'd need to read it and find out which parts are needed and how they work.
[04:46:22] 	they've done some pretty serious custom work on that site
[04:46:29] 	yes they have
[04:49:08] 	Thank you for the help.  Im gonna play around with it.  Yall have a good night
[05:17:48] 	I have a image that is a PNG. If I upload it to my MW, MW keeps it as a PNG. If the user downloads it, it's a PNG (I think). Of course, that's going to be a big filesize. Is there a way so MW resizes and delivers the image to the user as a JPG? If I upload a JPG, MW resizes and delivers another JPG. But then I have double compression.
[05:45:20] 	If I have an image as a PNG, how can I get MW to serve a JPG without having double-compression when MW resizes the image?
[05:56:57] 	Has anyone heard of an exention that sends page updates to an IRC server??
[05:57:15] 	I already looked at all of teh extentions on the mediawiki extentions page
[05:57:26] 	it is core code
[05:57:33] 	you just need udp->irc converter
[05:58:27] 	http://noc.wikimedia.org/~kate/udprec.c
[05:58:38] 	http://noc.wikimedia.org/~kate/ircecho.py
[05:59:52] 	If I have an image as a PNG, how can I get MW to serve a JPG without having double compression when MW resizes the image?
[06:11:41] 	domas u know where i could get something like that?
[06:11:55] 	oh wait flyingparchment sent something
[06:11:57] 	let me look
[06:12:04] 	yes
[06:12:11] 	compile udprec and run it: udprec 
[06:12:11] 	keep your eyes open
[06:12:20] 	well: udprec  | ircecho 
[06:12:24] 	I'm not handholding anyone in this channel
[06:12:35] 	thanx for the info
[06:12:36] 	have enough of that at my work :-D
[06:12:42] 	and yes.. sorry its 2 in the morning here..
[06:12:46] 	ive been at this for a while.. so sorry :)
[06:12:50] 	domas: What if we like holding your hand? :'(
[06:13:09] 	Pathoschild: I can direct you to our sales ;-D
[06:13:14] 	domas is not your daddy.
[06:13:22] 	:'(
[06:13:59] *masterpersona 	tells on you.
[06:14:19] *Pathoschild 	watches masterpersona tell masterpersona.
[06:15:01] 	Weirdo.
[06:15:01] 	haha...
[06:16:16] 	Pathoschild, stop weirding out MadFrenchie 
[06:16:32] *Pathoschild 	holds MadFrenchie's hand instead.
[06:16:49] 	hum.... those scripts you showd me don't provide much information at all
[06:16:50] 	haha ;)
[06:17:10] 	I'm no pro when it comes to mediawiki ;)
[06:20:00] 	MadFrenchie: you're probably looking for 
[06:21:20] 	exactly amidaniel
[06:21:23] 	Thank You!!!
[06:22:23] 	no problem, hope it works for you
[06:23:01] 	Ill read up on it and see
[06:23:24] 	My boss is on my heels to get this Wiki up and running
[06:31:50] 	your boss is too demanding on features
[06:31:53] 	tell him to relax
[06:34:17] 	btw, maybe RC via UDP should have better format than IRC string?
[06:35:37] 	rc via udp?
[06:36:43] 	Yes
[06:36:51] 	Is the Recent Changes edit feed bot publically availalbe?
[06:37:08] 	The one that spits out edits onto irc.wikimedia.org
[06:39:22] 	If I have an image as a PNG, how can I get MW to serve a JPG without having double compression when MW resizes the image?
[06:39:45] 	nice.. I got it to work.. now i just have to figure out how to restrict it to only showing the edits done to one page
[06:49:10] 	03(NEW) Enforced   breaks inline CSS with !important - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11874 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (kalan.001)
[06:53:36] 	hum.
[07:03:10] 	re
[07:06:36] 	rö
[07:26:17] 	 	 irc://irc.ani.vn/anivn
[07:26:25] 	can anyone access this?
[07:27:08] 	nope
[07:27:10] 	unable to resolve
[07:27:18] 	hic
[07:27:25] 	let me try again hold on
[07:27:29] 	ok
[07:28:12] 	maybe you try to ping it
[07:28:17] 	im in
[07:28:32] 	join #anivn
[07:28:42] 	im there
[07:34:00] 	need 1 more :D with XDCC
[07:34:03] 	any one?
[08:17:40] 	there.. got my nick back :)
[08:18:31] *AmiDaniel_away 	boycotts MadFrenchie 
[08:18:40] 	haha
[08:18:47] 	boycotts? what for?
[08:18:48] 	:-P
[08:22:41] 	people boycott the french for any little thing
[08:22:46] 	they're very boycottable
[08:22:51] 	indeed :)
[08:22:56] <_wooz>	lo
[08:23:15] 	if malaysian cops shot people in the street, nobody would care
[08:23:36] 	but if France says maybe it's not a good idea to invade Iraq, it's "omg let's stop buying champagne"
[08:23:51] 	ahh
[08:23:58] 	well i'm french canadian :) so be nice to me :(
[08:24:14] 	TimStarling: Could not have summarized it better myself :D
[08:24:32] 	MadFrenchie: Wow, French AND a Canadian -- that's two strikes against you :P
[08:24:36] 	:(
[08:24:52] 	:)
[08:25:48] 	so mean :(
[08:29:18] 	03siebrand * r27189 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesVo.php: 
[08:29:19] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[08:29:19] 	* vo
[08:56:22] 	03siebrand * r27190 10/trunk/extensions/ (21 files in 19 dirs): 
[08:56:22] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[08:56:22] 	* Fixes and additions to 20 extensions for gl, fr
[09:03:47] 	03(NEW) Create namespace "Portal" for the Alemannic Wikipedia (als ) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11875 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[09:08:44] 	03(NEW) Change the upload file url - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11876 trivial; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (sanbec)
[09:09:12] 	03(mod) Create namespace "Portal" for the Alemannic Wikipedia [als] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11875  summary (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[09:09:22] 	re
[09:16:08] 	is there a setting for default search targets? for example if by default i would like the search results to include images as well
[09:38:16] 	03(mod) Named anchors not working in preview - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383  (10wiki)
[09:43:14] 	03rotem * r27191 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update.
[10:17:50] 	mm the donation bar looks funny when the variables (e.g. $donate) are not subsituted :o
[11:25:38] 	oh man: i updated my mediawik from 1.10 to 1.11. After that one functions called by a hook crashed. apache log showed up a Seg Fault (sig)
[11:26:05] 	i found out that it crashed because i did not return a value in the end of the function. 
[11:26:17] 	i didn'nt return anything there.
[11:26:40] 	i mean: a Segmentation fault from PHP!
[11:26:44] 	that is....
[11:26:46] 	wow.
[11:28:11] 	php is one of the most s&cking languages out there. it works for some reasons. but i doubt that anyone knows why.
[11:28:24] 	PunkRock: since 1.11, not returning a value from a hook function triggers a fatal php error. that, however should not trigger a segfault :)
[11:28:51] 	i have seen php segfault before though, for no goo reason at all. php is a bitch, basically
[11:29:37] 	yeah.
[11:30:09] 	in the last weeks i hit many of those segfaults.
[11:30:33] 	debugging with strace got a standard debugging technique
[11:31:07] 	o_O
[11:31:31] 	perhaps you should update php? or... downgrade to something stable? it shouldn't be *that* common
[11:31:53] 	5.2.1 is standard in ubuntu.
[11:31:58] 	i thought about this also.
[11:42:01] 	it's not hard to make PHP segfault
[11:42:03] 	try this:
[11:42:10] 	function a() { a(); }
[11:42:11] 	a();
[11:42:43] 	boom, segfault, expected behaviour don't bother reporting it as a bug
[11:42:57] 	this should not result in a seg fault.
[11:43:36] 	its recursive. it should result in a memory allocation error.
[11:44:06] 	no script language should result in a segfault.
[11:44:16] 	it should always be captured by the engine.
[11:45:57] 	but it segfaults.
[11:47:18] 	you're preaching to the choir
[11:47:25] 	TimStarling: this should cause stack overflow
[11:47:46] 	VasilievVV: do you want svn access?
[11:48:20] 	TimStarling: yes. I sent a request to brion 3 weeks ago
[11:48:45] 	03(NEW) Insecure HTML can be added - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11877 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (conrad.irwin)
[11:50:25] 	you have someone by the name of Catrope vouching for you
[11:50:56] 	what would you use svn access for?
[11:51:06] 	 you have someone by the name of Catrope vouching for you
[11:51:40] 	heh, I think I had this conversation with Tim about a year ago now.
[11:54:03] 	whatever happened to fisheye?
[11:55:40] 	TimStarling: I need it for improving MediaWiki code (especially API), working on TitleBlacklist extesnion (see http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11622 ) and maybe I'll maintain russian translations
[11:56:14] 	you write bots, is that right?
[11:56:40] 	Yes, I have an own library: http://sf.net/projects/wikiaccess
[11:56:43] 	there is one russian translator semi-active
[11:56:58] 	Nikerabbit: yes, it's ajvol. I know
[11:58:43] 	whee, my first commit was november 1, so I was close
[11:59:11] 	Werdna: how did you check it?
[11:59:20] 	http://cia.vc/stats/author/werdna/.rss?ver=2&medium=plaintext&limit=1000
[12:00:12] *Werdna 	--> bed
[12:00:12] 	nn
[12:01:51] 	VasilievVV: can you post your ssh public key on the wiki please?
[12:02:10] 	I don't think you have an email address registered on wikipedia, so I can't authenticate you that way
[12:02:36] 	r9736 | nikerabbit | 2005-06-28 15:16:33 +0300 (ti, 28 kesä   2005) | 2 lines
[12:02:40] 	oh the days
[12:04:03] 	TimStarling: yes. see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:VasilievVV/SSH
[12:05:20] 	what username do you want?
[12:05:50] 	vasilievvv
[12:07:35] 	ok, done
[12:07:40] 	do you know what to do from here?
[12:07:52] 	Yes
[12:08:03] 	good
[12:08:05] 	have fun then
[12:08:14] 	The repository address is svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki ?
[12:08:58] 	does anyone know - hello by the way - a) how to get cgi scripts to run on a GoDaddy hosted server?, b) why after successful install (on another server) I am instructed to move localsettings.php when there is no such file?
[12:09:01] 	thanks
[12:09:11] 	you probably want to start by checking out svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3
[12:09:29] 	that's the mediawiki core
[12:10:16] *VasilievVV 	think he will checkout svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/USERINFO
[12:10:26] 	yes, you might want to add a file for yourself there
[12:18:04] 	03(mod) Create namespace "Portal" for the Alemannic Wikipedia [als] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11875   +shell (10kalan.001)
[12:23:18] 	TimStarling: huh, i never looks at the userinfo stuff. any particular format the files need to be in? can i just add what i like?
[12:23:39] 	it's used by svn.wikimedia.org/users.php
[12:24:08] 	the format is pretty obvious, there's three fields which are used by users.php, the rest are ignored and you can put what you want
[12:24:26] 	i see name and email for me. what's the third?
[12:24:27] 	realname?
[12:24:35] 	ah, no, that's name
[12:24:42] 	but I've suggested putting in email addresses (or encrypted email addresses) for the purposes of making @svn.wikimedia.org aliases some day
[12:24:49] 	URL
[12:25:00] 	kk
[12:25:03] 	you can link to your user page or home page
[12:26:47] 	TimStarling: i don't see you in there :)
[12:27:00] 	maybe you're not looking hard enough
[12:27:42] 	true
[12:27:51] 	no "tim" :P
[12:28:16] 	I think it sounds more respectable to use last names ;)
[12:30:25] 	03daniel * r27194 10/USERINFO/daniel: updated personal info
[12:50:42] 	test case: 50x{{cite web}}, typical invocation taken from an article
[12:50:56] 	old parser: 4234ms
[12:51:03] 	new parser: 3359ms
[12:51:48] 	does that pay my wages yet, or do you want it to go faster?
[12:52:20] 	20% faster?
[12:54:30] 	well, or 26% faster, depending on which way you divide it
[12:54:41] 	26% greater throughput, 20% less time
[12:56:19] 	and I haven't done any profiling yet
[12:56:49] 	the bulk of the savings have probably been made already though...
[12:57:06] 	the actual figure for articles depends on how they use templates
[12:59:04] 	03siebrand * r27196 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[12:59:04] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[12:59:04] 	* ak (new)
[12:59:04] 	* Clarify 'als' in Names.php
[13:15:03] 	is it faster overall or just some things?
[13:17:49] 	it skips evaluation of the non-taken branch of #if, that's the long and the short of it
[13:18:22] 	it can skip any other non-taken branch too, but that's by far the most common one in my test cases
[13:19:48] 	it does this by building an XML document tree from a template or base page
[13:20:20] 	then the document tree can be expanded to wikitext recursively
[13:21:00] 	and parser functions which register with SFH_OBJECT_ARGS are passed document tree nodes instead of text, which they can then optionally expand
[13:21:20] 	nice
[13:24:16] 	the XML is extremely cacheable, since it's based only on the revision text and not on any context, but it looks like it's quite quick to generate so it's no big deal
[13:26:08] *VasilievVV 	looks at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11877 and tries to fix it
[13:31:00] 	Is there a way to use HEX color codes in Wikipedia infobox templates?
[13:31:37] 	Nevermind, figured it out myself... :)
[13:58:30] 	Hello, i have really no idea what im doing wrong... after clear mediawiki installation everything seems to be OK, but after inserting about 10 articles, there comes the error - from function SearchMySQL4::update, MySQL returns error 1034: Incorrect key file for table 'searchindex'; try to repair it (localhost)... article is saved, but its not indexed for searching :(
[14:00:03] 	i used the google but it isn´t the 3 letter error
[14:02:00] 	03vasilievvv * r27197 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php: * (bug 11877) Insecure HTML can be added
[14:03:34] 	03(FIXED) Insecure HTML can be added - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11877  +comment (10vasilvv)
[14:14:16] 	how do I add things to "Create Account page"??
[14:14:23] 	thanks
[14:24:48] 	VasilievVV: PING
[14:25:07] 	TimStarling: PING
[14:26:46] 	SPAM
[14:26:59] 	raw inputbox is shown
[14:28:23] 	please take a look at w:ja:Mainpage http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/
[14:28:31] 	yes we know
[14:28:34] 	egoat: inputbox is temporarily disabled
[14:28:49] 	Ok, I see, thanks
[14:29:11] 	it should be fixed within 10 minutes or so
[14:29:36] 	RoanKattouw: I gave him an account already
[14:29:38] 	thanks again
[14:29:57] 	TimStarling: Yeah, he just told me so. Thanks
[14:31:34] 	03vasilievvv * r27198 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php: * Also escaping $this->id
[14:38:04] 	is it possible to upload files into subfolders?
[14:38:49] 	i mean, i have a few files with same name and i'd like to organize them into suitable directories
[14:42:02] 	G_SabinoMullane: :(
[14:44:45] 	03(mod) Install DidYouMean extension on the English Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11794  (10hippytrail)
[14:45:09] 	03mkroetzsch * r27199 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php: Support DB names with strage characters (Bug 11704)
[14:45:10] 	03(FIXED) SMW-setup fails for some DB names - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11704  (10mak)
[14:45:53] *G_SabinoMullane 	takes a break from fighting phps poor handling of utf-8 to reply to AaronSchulz.
[14:47:33] 	G_SabinoMullane: can you set details to show?
[14:49:12] 	Which server are you hitting?
[14:51:00] 	I'm having a big cache and/or database problem with mediawiki 1.9.3 on debian etch. The recent updates are only showing the last couple days and certain categories only display a few articles
[14:51:07] 	can't tell
[14:51:38] 	AaronSchulz: Change "en" to "locke", I'll turn on details there.
[14:51:38] 	I've restarted the database, cleared caches etc. and it seems to be very intermitent, it will only show up sometimes and seems to come and go. I'm completely out of ideas with this one
[14:52:53] 	Shiver me timbers
[14:53:08] 	failed to create directory for '/accountreqs/2/s/j/2sjdq5wqespevcaydlc58l6d904814b.doc'
[14:53:59] 	Ah...that should be fixable.
[14:54:38] 	do I need to rebuild an index somewhere? Only articles I've edited recently are showing up in certain categories and recent changes
[14:55:00] 	mbeze for recent changes, that's normal
[14:55:11] 	You'll need to rebuild the categorylinks, pagelinks and templatelinks tables
[14:55:18] 	(the latter two facilitate Special:Whatlinkshere)
[14:56:27] 	AaronSchulz: Odd that it does not show up in the error logs.
[14:56:43] 	RoanKattouw: Is there a way to check if the problem is deeper? The problem would come and go, sometimes all of the recent changes would appear, then 10 min. later only for the last couple days
[14:57:13] 	mbeze that's probably because you got logged out
[14:57:28] 	no, I was logged in the entire time
[14:57:35] 	it would change between link clicks
[14:57:44] 	I also ruled out the browser cache
[14:58:04] 	mbeze and your username kept showing in the upper right corner?
[14:58:09] 	Weird
[14:58:28] 	yeah, it's really strange
[14:58:50] 	it seems like caching is getting screwed up somehow, but now I'm not so sure
[14:59:16] 	there was a serious clock drift on the machine about a week ago, so I guess that could have caused some problems
[14:59:43] 	mbeze that's possible
[14:59:51] 	the question is what?
[15:04:12] 	RoanKattouw: I just ran rebuildall.php and I'm still seeing the same problem, recent changes picked up a couple extra days though, but doesn't go any further
[15:04:38] 	mbeze are you getting the cats and whatlinksheres correctly now?
[15:04:42] 	nothing listed in any of the categories now
[15:05:22] 	RC doesn't run forever anyway, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRCMaxAge
[15:08:06] 	what links here seems to be broken for the most part
[15:08:52] 	03raymond * r27200 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: 
[15:08:52] 	* (bug 11843) Update French translations
[15:08:52] 	 Patch by Bertrand GRONDIN
[15:08:58] 	03vrandezo * r27201 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/ExportRDF/SMW_SpecialExportRDF.php: Tripled the export speed. Yay.
[15:09:00] 	mbeze can you link me to your wiki?
[15:09:14] 	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11843  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[15:09:38] 	RoanKattouw: nope, it's internal only
[15:09:45] 	Hmm
[15:10:09] 	strange thing is that I logged into the server that it's hosted on, and it worked fine
[15:10:34] 	which then made me think it was caching outside of the server, but there aren't any internal proxies
[15:10:50] 	03raymond * r27202 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: 
[15:10:50] 	* (bug 11838) Update French translations
[15:10:50] 	 Patch by Bertrand GRONDIN
[15:11:02] 	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11838  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[15:11:29] 	mbeze do you have master and slave DB servers?
[15:11:33] 	Or multiple DB servers?
[15:11:35] 	no
[15:11:44] 	single mysql database
[15:11:49] 	You cleared your browser cache?
[15:11:53] 	03(mod) Change the upload file url - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11876  -easy +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[15:11:53] 	yep
[15:12:41] 	RoanKattouw: ok, so now, all pages after Oct. 1 are showing up in the category pages
[15:12:49] 	How long would one typically have to wait for an answer on a bug report in bugzilla? I've seen enhancements with a first answer after 3 minutes. My bug report WITH patch is now 3 days old and noone seems to care. Is that normal?
[15:13:41] 	RoanKattouw: before Oct. 1 rather, seem like the rest aren't showing up
[15:13:50] 	mbeze check Special:Statistics for your job queue length
[15:13:52] 	are there any logs I can search through for errors?
[15:14:28] 	RoanKattouw: it's 0
[15:15:09] 	^^
[15:15:10] 	That's weird
[15:15:19] 	How many articles do you have (approximately)?
[15:16:03] 	1578 pages according to stats, there are a lot less actual articles though
[15:16:10] 	the XML dump is under 3MB
[15:16:12] 	Caldrin: bug #?
[15:17:09] 	03(FIXED) Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11680  +comment (10kalan.001)
[15:17:18] 	mbeze as a workaround to get whatlinkshere working, you can make a null edit on every article (i.e. click edit, then click save immediately). Alternatively, just wait for them to be edited and they'll show in whatlinkshere and all that again
[15:17:34] 	But RebuildAll should've solved that AFAIK
[15:17:53] 	there might have been a database upgrade in there at some point as well
[15:18:18] 	I know that postgres was updated, but mysql might have had an update
[15:18:31] 	mbeze did you upgrade your MW version recently?
[15:18:41] 	a couple months ago
[15:18:45] 	Hmm
[15:18:53] 	And your problem didn't appear until recently?
[15:19:06] 	yeah, seemed to appear after a dist-upgrade
[15:19:37] 	Hmm
[15:19:48] 	Your DB doesn't sound like it's all that huge
[15:19:59] 	What you could do is do a full DB dump and reimport it
[15:20:05] 	!backup | mbeze
[15:20:05] 	mbeze: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[15:20:13] 	I do a nightly XML dump
[15:20:39] 	That's just the page contents, isn't it?
[15:20:54] 	Using dumpBackup.php?
[15:21:55] 	yeah
[15:22:12] 	03greg * r27203 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DatabasePostgres.php: Force string to UTF-8 if we have mb stuff available.
[15:22:18] 	That doesn't store stuff like users and their preferences
[15:22:27] 	But you could try to:
[15:22:38] 	- Do an XML dump
[15:24:09] 	grr
[15:24:17] 	No wait
[15:24:20] 	03(mod) Special:Userlogin should remember uselang - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11139  +comment (10cbeckhorn)
[15:24:25] 	my main page is only displaying edits from before Aug. 31
[15:24:30] 	something is pretty screwed up
[15:24:31] 	You mean history?
[15:24:33] 	yeah
[15:24:44] 	That probably means the revision table got truncated
[15:24:45] 	and the page is also old
[15:24:55] 	Is it showing an old version
[15:24:57] 	?
[15:24:59] 	yes
[15:25:01] 	Shift+Refresh button
[15:25:12] 	same
[15:25:16] 	...
[15:25:19] 	Very weird
[15:25:27] 	Try to delete articles and re-import them from the XML dump
[15:25:38] 	this was happening before but it was intermittent 
[15:25:44] 	now it seems to be constant
[15:25:46] 	Dunno how many you have (or how many you care about), but it should fix up some stuff
[15:26:16] 	I think the data is still all there, I just can't get to it
[15:26:52] 	Could be
[15:26:57] 	But I'd need to look at your DB
[15:28:37] 	anything I could look for myself?
[15:28:54] 	In the revision tables: revisions before Oct 1
[15:29:00] 	the content is too sensitive to give out to 3rd parties
[15:29:16] 	ok, so if it's all still there, what would be the course of action?
[15:29:26] 	Check if the number in rev_page corresponds to a page_id in the page table
[15:29:45] 	What I think could be wrong is that there are revisions associated with bogus page IDs
[15:29:59] 	Then find out what the page ID should be and correct it
[15:31:33] 	oes anyone know - hello by the way - a) how to get cgi scripts to run on a GoDaddy hosted server?, b) why after successful install (on another server) I am instructed to move localsettings.php when there is no such file?
[15:32:12] 	RoanKattouw: things are getting stranger now just tried to go to a page by typing it directly into the search box both on the server (local to the wiki) and then on my desk machine, the page shows up on the server and not on my desktop
[15:32:22] 	I was logged into both with the same account
[15:32:57] 	seems like there are two sources (caches?) for the data?
[15:33:16] 	mbeze very, very weird
[15:33:26] 	does mediawiki reference the hostname in any way?
[15:33:44] 	Look in LocalSettings.php
[15:34:18] 	ok, for what
[15:34:23] 	b) Are you sure it is not at config/LocalSettings.php?
[15:34:57] 	For hostnames
[15:35:05] 	in config I only have two files, index.php and index5,php
[15:37:58] 	RoanKattouw: the only hostname I have is localhost for the DB
[15:38:29] 	That's the way it should be
[15:38:48] 	I'm sorry mbeze but I honestly have no idea what could be causing all this
[15:39:38] 	I also have multiple network interfaces on the box, but I don't think that would have anything to do with it
[15:39:51] 	and multiple hostnames
[15:40:18] 	does anyone know - hello by the way - a) how to get cgi scripts to run on a GoDaddy hosted server?, b) why after successful install (on another server) I am instructed to move localsettings.php when there is no such file?
[15:41:27] 	RoanKattouw: thanks for your input, I'll let you know if I figure out the root cause
[15:41:50] 	I'm going to go through the database, and possibly setup another machine to move to for testing
[15:44:22] 	And how do I put bugs for an unlisted extension into bugzilla?
[15:44:36] 	Extensions/Other
[15:44:37] 	I can't choose "another extension"?
[15:47:23] 	03vasilievvv * r27204 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialNewpages.php): * (bug 1401) Allow hiding logged-in users, bots and patrolled pages on Special:Newpages
[15:49:07] 	Nikerabbit: good news!
[15:53:47] 	03mkroetzsch * r27205 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 2 dirs): +Chinese translations, by Roc Michael
[15:59:12] 	03mkroetzsch * r27206 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (SMW_LanguageZh_cn.php SMW_LanguageZh_tw.php): Some more datatype aliases for compatibility
[15:59:56] 	Who runs CIA bot?
[16:01:18] 	Hojjat: CIA.vc
[16:01:47] 	VasilievVV: No i mean, which person runs it?
[16:02:03] 	Hojjat: let me see...
[16:02:10] 	[[wikipedia:Central Intelligence Agency]]
[16:02:14] 	 ;-)
[16:02:45] 	Jack_Phoenix: well I was here when people discussed about what CIA stands for, here. It was fun!
[16:02:58] 	hehe 
[16:03:18] 	Hojjat: I think it's community-controlled bot
[16:03:28] 	anyways, I think CIA.vc has omitted a set of comits, so I think I should report it to someone!
[16:04:09] 	Hojjat: CIA bot here also misses some commits
[16:05:35] 	VasilievVV: yes, I've noticed that too
[16:13:22] 	03(NEW) missing link - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11878 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (ssgreen)
[16:13:27] 	03(NEW) Hungarian language file updated - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11879 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (localicer)
[16:17:01] 	03(FIXED) Allow hiding logged-in users, bots and patrolled pages on Special:Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1401  +comment (10vasilvv)
[16:31:43] 	is there an extension available for something like a gallop poll...aka Dynamics poll?
[16:31:54] 	03(ASSIGNED) Create namespace "Portal" for the Alemannic Wikipedia [als] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11875  (10der.umschattige)
[16:33:21] 	or anything remotely close to that?
[16:36:37] 	03siebrand * r27207 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesArc.php: 
[16:36:37] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[16:36:37] 	* arc
[16:38:51] 	03vasilievvv * r27208 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[16:38:51] 	* (bug 11431) API for Extension:SiteMatrix
[16:38:51] 	* Initial revision for TitleBlacklist extension
[16:46:17] 	VasilievVV: mm you're changing coding style, aren't you mmm
[16:46:35] 	Nikerabbit: what coding style?
[16:46:38] 	03mkroetzsch * r27209 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: Urlencode all URI-internals. Generally prevent the generation of links for protocols not enabled for the wiki (e.g. file://).
[16:47:38] 	braces :o
[16:50:43] 	Nikerabbit: you meant "if (condition...) \n {" instead of "if (condition...) { \n"?
[16:51:04] 	yup
[16:51:23] *VasilievVV 	will try to follow MediaWiki coding style
[16:51:35] 	btw, is there any conding guidelines?
[16:51:57] 	haven't seen any
[16:52:06] 	just look what's around
[16:52:45] 	there is some variance with function(params) and function( params )
[16:52:58] 	I know
[16:53:32] 	function(params) used in simple cases, function(params) used in cases with multiple braces
[16:56:35] 	Hello.
[16:57:36] 	Is there a way to insert (embed, include, ...) an XML document in a wiki page, link it to a XSLT stylesheet and have it transformed on the client side?
[16:59:41] 	(the point is to be able to edit an xml file natively, and render it - not just have it attached)
[17:01:10] 	03(mod) Create namespace "Portal" for the Alemannic Wikipedia [als] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11875  (10clemens.kienzle)
[17:01:46] 	03siebrand * r27210 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesAs.php): 
[17:01:46] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[17:01:46] 	* as
[17:13:23] 	03aaron * r27211 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: *Delete file on confirm
[17:17:15] 	hi, we have a problem with a costumer using mediawiki and we can't find any solution.
[17:17:21] 	03mkroetzsch * r27212 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: Prevent relevant URL-chars (@,%,&,?,=,...) from being encoded in user-given URLs.
[17:17:39] 	somehow, the parser fails many times and the pages represent tags like {{{Title}}}
[17:18:13] 	it has php 5.2.2. Are there any known bugs?
[17:19:47] 	Paulo_: which MW Version do you use?
[17:20:12] 	PunkRock: 1.11.0
[17:20:39] 	i am also in trouble because MW Parser hooks. 
[17:20:58] 	now i'me getting Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded 
[17:21:18] 	but the php.ini says 90secs for server and 240secs for account
[17:21:26] 	hm. maybe your server is busy?
[17:23:13] 	03aaron * r27213 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: *Add &wpCreateAccount=1 to block url
[17:23:16] 	it's a random error but the server load is fine
[17:25:30] 	you can see one error here:
[17:25:32] 	http://bibliowiki.com.pt/index.php/Revolta_em_2100
[17:26:25] 	it looks like the parser stoped 
[17:27:01] 	we have to force it with action=purge to fix and sometimes it doesn't fixe
[17:27:16] 	sometimes we have to do it again and again
[17:30:56] 	03raymond * r27214 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesHu.php): 
[17:30:56] 	* (bug 11879) Update Hungarian translations
[17:30:56] 	 Patch by localicer
[17:37:07] 	0505,00How ya Allow html?
[17:37:46] 	03(FIXED) Hungarian language file updated - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11879  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:38:41] 	oh man. i wonder if there is anyone who understands how all the parser stuff works in MW
[17:38:52] 	It looks more like magic. 
[17:38:58] 	:)
[17:39:12] 	!html | Zizanzu 
[17:39:12] 	Zizanzu : For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include  and .
[17:39:43] 	does anyone know - hello by the way - a) how to get cgi scripts to run on a GoDaddy hosted server?, b) why after successful install (on another server) I am instructed to move localsettings.php when there is no such file?
[17:39:46] 	thanks for any tips
[17:40:33] 	a) probably not; b) check file permissions.
[17:41:16] 	jmanooch: the LocalSettings.php is at the config dir.
[17:41:23] 	did you check that?
[17:41:29] 	there is not such file in that directory
[17:42:26] 	what exactly do you mean with (on another server) another server then mentioned in question (1)?
[17:42:47] 	apologies
[17:42:58] 	I have fixed the localsettings problem
[17:43:05] 	if you succesfully installed it, then there should be a file in the config directory of mw
[17:43:11] 	yup
[17:43:12] 	good.
[17:43:22] 	I was lookking at a cached version of the config folder or something
[17:43:43] 	apparently GoDaddy hosting config 2.0 should run cgi scripts in any directory in the accessible web root
[17:43:45] 	but it don't
[17:43:47] 	the GoDaddy hosted stuff: never heard of, but looks like you should ask your provider for that.
[17:43:49] 	no experience of that?
[17:46:05] 	jmanooch: 'cached version of the config dir'? Never heard of a 'caching filesystem'.
[17:46:16] 	mm
[17:46:25] 	winscp caches directories
[17:46:40] 	or maybe I was just looking at the wrong install!
[17:46:41] 	uah!
[17:46:58] 	I am doing two installs at the same time and maybe was being a monkey looking a a config dir pre-install
[17:47:09] 	but that is fixed
[17:47:18] 	now I need to get Daddy to Go with cgi-scripts
[17:56:36] 	back
[17:56:39] 	im here
[17:56:42] 	if you are there
[17:56:54] 	just go to irc://irc.ani.vn/anivn
[17:57:07] 	and irc://irc.freenode.net/anivn
[17:57:09] 	both room
[18:01:08] 	If I have an image as a PNG or a PSD, how can I get it to display to the user as a JPG, but retain the high-quality image for someone who wants to edit the image?
[18:13:36] 	03(FIXED) Change the upload file url - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11876  +comment (10jeluf)
[18:21:50] 	03aaron * r27215 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php SpecialMakevalidate.php): *Always add en messages
[18:43:05] 	Hi all
[18:44:03] 	anyone who could help with a strange installation problem
[18:44:05] 	?
[18:45:32] 	03siebrand * r27217 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for TitleBlacklist in extension Translate
[18:47:01] 	tell DrumD 
[18:47:36] 	ok i installed 1.11 while apache was running on port 8080
[18:47:47] 	now i changed the port to 80
[18:48:19] 	when i want to update a page and click on save the form is pointed at server.com:8080
[18:48:47] 	i don't know where it's taking that port from
[18:50:02] 	the only hint i have is some javascript stuff where the wgserver variable is set to server.com:8080
[18:50:36] 	Which leads me to the question why this is hardcoded without me ever setting this var
[18:51:40] 	03siebrand * r27220 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Tweak for TitleBlacklist export
[18:53:58] 	I ran rebuildall.php and now I don't have any category listings and my recent changes page only goes back a couple days. Is there a way I can get those back?
[18:54:53] 	Here the JS part where I found the port 8080 http://www.markus-deibel.de/js_mediawiki.txt
[18:55:46] 	03siebrand * r27221 10/trunk/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.i18n.php: 
[18:55:46] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[18:55:46] 	* Fixes and additions to 1 extension for nl
[18:59:09] 	hi there everyone
[18:59:36] 	i've got problems with rendering djvu files uploaded to my mediawiki 
[19:00:08] 	i've add following line to localsettings
[19:00:12] 	*added
[19:00:15] 	$wgTrustedMediaFormats = array_merge($wgTrustedMediaFormats, array("image/x.djvu"));
[19:01:04] 	but djvu files' pages still contain a warning telling me that a file may be dangerous
[19:01:57] 	any successful attempts of enabling djvu support with mediawiki?
[19:02:12] 	I've just tried again with two more articles. Same result
[19:02:32] 	The form always is posted to the server on port 8080
[19:04:25] 	The other related settings are:   $wgDjvuRenderer = "ddjvu"; $wgDjvuDump="djvudump";$wgDjvuPostProcessor=false;
[19:10:48] 	there's one important difference i've noticed when i've been browsing wikimedia's sites with djvu enabled
[19:11:11] 	03rotem * r27222 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Various fixes.
[19:11:43] 	wikimedia's servers recognize djvu as image/vnd.djvu, while mine recognizes it as image/x.djvu
[19:12:14] 	e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Alice_in_Wonderland.djvu&page=5
[19:13:07] 	that's what i'd like to see on my page. unfortunately, i haven't been able to find any manual describing process of enabling these features.
[19:16:50] 	How do I rebuild all of the Category links?
[19:18:12] 	jano: in includes/mime.info, there should be a line like this:
[19:18:13] 	new Template(name, new StringReader(templateText), servlet.getFreeMarkerConfig())
[19:18:19] 	err, wrong
[19:18:23] 	like this
[19:18:27] 	image/vnd.djvu image/x.djvu image/x-djvu [BITMAP]
[19:18:31] 	if not, add it
[19:18:41] 	affirmative
[19:18:46] 	that should fix the mime type, at least for fresh uploads.
[19:18:50] 	Hardcoding the servername (wgServer) in includes/DefaultSettings.php is a workaround but I think someone should look into this
[19:19:44] 	DrumD: wgServer *and* wgServerName should be set in LocalSettings.php, if the automatic detection does not work
[19:20:05] 	mbeze: maintenance/rebuildLinks.php should do it i think
[19:20:35] 	mbeze: oh, it's refreshLinks.php
[19:20:45] 	or use rebuildall.php
[19:20:54] 	I tried both
[19:20:58] 	neither has worked
[19:21:12] 	@ Duesentrieb: OK, true, I'll change that but it's not that the detection is not working at all, it produces a wrong result
[19:21:23] 	mbeze: it should. be sure to purge the cache though (touchimg LocalSettings.php should do it for recent versions of mediawiki)=
[19:21:27] 	I described the problem further up
[19:22:31] 	DrumD: yes, it's does not always work right. I don't wuite understand what you mean by hardcoded, though
[19:22:42] 	hi, I'm having trouble with mw 1.11.0 and Special:Namespaces Extension :(
[19:22:46] 	afaik the detection is don "live" - anyway, the only thin generated during installation is LocalSettings.php
[19:23:04] 	(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_namespaces)
[19:23:43] 	phaidros: what kind of problem?
[19:23:47] 	Duesentrieb: those commands seem to break the categories, I created a test page with all of the categories listed, that single page was showing up in all, but now I just ran rebuildLinks and there are no articles listed in any of the categories
[19:24:13] 	this is 1.9.3 btw
[19:24:14] 	mbeze: that seems very odd...
[19:24:21] 	Duesentrieb: http://wiki.wsfii.org/index.php
[19:24:24] 	mbeze: no idea, sorry.
[19:24:38] 	Duesentrieb: I know and that's what makes me suspicious ;)
[19:25:11] 	phaidros: the extension does not conform tothe specification. fix it, or get the author to fix it. or see if it's already fixed in the latest version.
[19:25:34] 	phaidros: earlier versions of mediawiki ignored this, with somtimes unexpected results or eratic behavior.
[19:25:47] 	it worked before with 1.9.3 but we renewed everything, now after fresh install it seems broken .. so I'd expect maybe a bug in the newer version or something I did wrong, but afaics all done by howto :(
[19:26:10] 	ok, the extension is latest imho ..
[19:26:16] 	DrumD: well, *where* exactly is it hardcoded? Did you compare the repective file with a clean copy?
[19:26:34] 	phaidros: report it to the creator. the fix is trivial.
[19:26:40] 	Duesentrieb: any idea to dp a quick fix?
[19:26:40] 	Duesentrieb, well, I've added line you had mentioned to includes/mime.info and additionally added "image/x.djvu djvu djv" to includes/mime.types and a new entry in $wgMediaHandlers array corresponding to my mime type. Yet, no results for exisiting files. Maybe I could force it somehow in the database?
[19:26:51] 	s/dp/do
[19:27:05] 	phaidros: the error message states quite clearly what needs to be done. for details, read docs/hooks.txt
[19:27:22] 	well, ok then :)
[19:28:03] 	jano: this will have no effect for existing files, yes. you would have to fix the mime type directly in the database.
[19:28:29] 	thanks, i'll try
[19:29:07] 	jano: something like update image set img_minor_mime = "image/vnd.djvu" where img_minor_mime = "image/x.djvu"; (*doublecheck* this before running it)
[19:29:08] 	Should I capitalize the "u" in "Infobox upgrade" or not?
[19:31:34] 	Duesentrieb: http://www.markus-deibel.de/js_mediawiki.txt contains some js I found containing the port, could this be cause the page is in the cache?
[19:32:25] 	DrumD: yes. that block is dynamically generated for every page. it just sets a bunch of js variables for use by user scripts.
[19:32:43] 	i'd like to organize uploaded files to certain subfolders. is this possible with a plugin or something?
[19:32:43] 	basically, it makes some global php variables available in js
[19:32:48] 	ahhhh merda
[19:32:59] 	ok i'll clear the cache and check again
[19:32:59] 	jpnurmi: no.
[19:33:21] 	i tried to write destination filename as "path/to/file" but it ended up as just "file"
[19:33:29] 	Duesentrieb: oh, i see
[19:34:18] 	DrumD: wgServer in JS should be exactly the same as wgServer in PHP, that is, as detected in DefaultSettings or overwritten in LocalSettings.
[19:34:29] 	DrumD: be sure to alwqays keep wgServer and wgServerName in sync.
[19:34:46] 	jpnurmi: use categories
[19:35:50] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_camera, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Weapon. Both are for non-specific nouns, yet the weapon one is Weapon and the camera one is camera. Which way is correct? With the capital or without?
[19:39:32] 	Korolen: that's up to you, or the conventions on your wiki. as far as mediawiki is concerned, you can call them frank and herbert.
[19:40:07] 	Korolen: you can as at the village pump of the english wikipedia about the inconsistency... have fun :)
[19:40:35] 	Duesentrieb: Well, I just asked at #wikipedia, and the standard there is without capitals
[19:40:45] 	so I'll use that on my wiki too
[19:41:44] 	Duesentrieb: is it somehow possible to upload multiple files with same filename by using categories?
[19:42:20] 	Duesentrieb, after modifying the database it works perfectly, thanks a lot.
[19:42:32] 	 message is showing up on wiki, its not in Special:Allmessages but it is in the language file, any ideas how to fix this
[19:42:41] 	I'm just curious whether newly added files will automatically be tagged as vnd.djvu
[19:43:28] 	Duesentrieb: problem solved thx
[19:43:36] 	n8 all
[19:43:43] 	\o/
[19:45:22] 	jpnurmi: mass uploads are generally tricky, due to the way http is designed, and due to security restrictions. there is an extension for mass upload (but i think it doesn't do much good), and there are some scripts or client programs, loke commonist - those are generally written for wikipedia / wikimedia commons, so they would have to be adapted to your personal wiki.
[19:49:31] 	Is there a way to make a "move" button on an image?
[19:49:41] 	no.
[19:49:45] 	:(
[19:49:54] 	well, you can make as many buttons as you like, but mediawiki can not move/rename images
[19:49:59] 	yes, it sucks
[19:50:01] 	long standing bug
[19:50:07] 	Jack_Phoenix...why do you want me KLined, I'm not causing any problems on the IRC server.
[19:50:08] 	it's not trivial to solve, 
[19:50:28] 	Tenshi_: you are a vandal and a troll
[19:50:36] 	so I just have to re-upload it on the new name and delete the old?
[19:50:38] 	 	 irc://irc.ani.vn/dyn-anime
[19:50:40] 	oh well
[19:50:44] 	can anyone
[19:50:48] 	pls join
[19:50:48] 	Korolen: ondeed.
[19:50:50] 	im testing
[19:50:51] 	err, indeed
[19:51:05] 	Shun me then, don't kline me.
[19:51:13] 	Shun is a global network silence.
[19:51:16] 	uhm
[19:51:19] 	:)
[19:51:20] 	Korolen: it sucks, but you learn to live with it :)
[19:51:23] 	pls join that chanel
[19:51:25] 	:D
[19:51:28] 	Korolen: image names are not that important anyway
[19:51:49] 	Duesentrieb: well seings how my wiki is young, I may as well
[19:51:50] *taduyducvn 	kick everyone
[19:52:04] 	well more like a baby at this point
[19:52:23] 	Duesentrieb: alright, i'll check it out, thanks. oh and yes, it's a private wiki so installing an extension is no problem. we would just like to have it possible to upload source files of sample applications with their actual names instead of using underscores or so to distinguish them
[19:52:30] 	But I figure with about 100 hours of work I may be able to acheive critical mass and go online -,0
[19:52:48] 	hmm, on the left in the "Toolbox" window there is no option to upload picture.. how do I make it appear there?
[19:53:49] 	jpnurmi: i'd recommend not to upload them at all, but to use some web-accessible repository (svnview or whatever), and link to that. if you like, write an extension that inlines the files wherever you like them.
[19:54:19] 	XDuxaX: by enabling it. read the faq
[19:55:09] 	ty
[19:56:17] 	Duesentrieb: hmm, that's a great idea. thanks again
[19:56:50] 	once again thanks
[19:56:54] 	cheers
[19:57:27] 	Another question: Is there any way to make external links open in the space to the right (in other words, so that the wiki toolbar (one on the left), is still accesible when on an external web site) ?
[20:00:34] 	XDuxaX: Make a special page that renders an