[00:00:12] <flyingparchment>	prefix LIKEs are done using the index
[00:00:13] <Duesentrieb>	flyingparchment: and on the type of index. i vaguely remember issues
[00:00:18] <blue_asterisk>	it's on the order of thousands so it's not too bad I think
[00:00:28] <flyingparchment>	Duesentrieb: should be fine with a btree index..
[00:00:38] <flyingparchment>	although with page_title you need to specify the namespace too, or it won't use the index
[00:00:39] <Duesentrieb>	flyingparchment: i hope so
[00:00:43] <blue_asterisk>	if it's bad, I'll make it use a cache and just generate occasionally
[00:01:10] <Duesentrieb>	blue_asterisk: try how long it takes, compare to an exact match, and compare to a suffix-like (%A)
[00:01:25] <blue_asterisk>	oh no, I'd never do %A
[00:01:49] <facefaceface>	currently I have "Search for "{{{db}}}" in;..." http://biodatabase.org/index.php?title=Axeldb&action=submit
[00:02:15] <facefaceface>	I need to pass {{{db}}} to the second template as "term = {{{db}}}"
[00:02:36] <blue_asterisk>	perfect!
[00:02:45] <blue_asterisk>	thanks again as usual =-)
[00:02:55] <facefaceface>	I meant to link to the preview
[00:04:40] <facefaceface>	the syntax for default values for parameters rocks!
[00:07:24] <facefaceface>	dang... I don't have Special:ExpandTemplates
[00:09:15] <facefaceface>	and now I have cashing issues
[00:09:20] <facefaceface>	cashe
[00:09:25] <facefaceface>	I can't spell
[00:09:54] <blue_asterisk>	cache
[00:09:54] <blue_asterisk>	hehe
[00:10:07] <facefaceface>	tanks
[00:11:18] <facefaceface>	I keep saving template one, which calls template two, but the page that calls template one still shows template two like I never edited template one... sigh. all template one does is call two btw
[00:12:56] <facefaceface>	this sucks! can anyone tell me if they see {{{db}}} on this page http://biodatabase.org/index.php/Template:Database_page_data
[00:14:07] <facefaceface>	D'oh! somebody ... I ... I am a fool
[00:22:49] <facefaceface>	Thank jebus its fixed ... http://biodatabase.org/index.php/Tumor_Gene_Family_Databases_%28TGDBs%29
[00:48:26] <facefaceface>	night
[01:01:41] <T0MA4AT0_M0nst4h>	WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!!
[01:02:37] <Moniker42>	he was quite friendly
[01:02:40] <Moniker42>	for a troll, that is.
[01:19:13] <Skalman__>	Hi! Is inclusion of [[Special:Recentchanges]] server intensive? How big would the difference be between an included "Recent changes" and the default special page?
[01:20:18] <Stavros>	Can I include raw HTML in an article?
[01:21:14] <Skalman__>	nope
[01:21:23] <Stavros>	ah, thanks
[01:23:12] <Skalman__>	np :)
[01:42:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Notice: unserialize() Error when using Postgres - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11292  +comment (10joebarger8)
[01:43:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Failed Special:Import leaves imported pages behind, but does not say so. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5701  (10mike.lifeguard)
[01:45:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Indicate if an import failed due to revision limit on export - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6646  (10mike.lifeguard)
[01:46:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Going back in time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11917 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (jidanni)
[01:47:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Going back in time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11917  (10jidanni)
[04:04:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Change default MediaWiki text for Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11912  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[04:24:57] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Going back in time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11917  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[04:28:08] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Add a Mediawiki: entry for the default user sig - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11916  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[04:28:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Default signature should be customizable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11913  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[04:28:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Default signature should be customizable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11913   +need-review +patch (10raimond.spekking)
[04:39:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Going back in time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11917  (10jidanni)
[06:31:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PRE lower border not shown - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11465  (10michaeldaly)
[08:02:37] <sputnick>	hi there
[08:05:10] <sputnick>	I'have listen that it's possible to configure MW to change default search engine for a google one. is it true ? [ $REPLY == yes ] && echo "Also, is there any manual, documentation ?"
[08:27:08] <CIA-37>	03david * r27358 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LqtBaseView.php LqtModel.php lqt.css): A kludge to show replies without indentation.
[09:03:46] <prad>	I installed mediawiki version 1.10.1, and it is working great
[09:04:17] <prad>	now I am looking for some kind of moderation where new pages need to approved before displayed in media wiki
[09:04:31] <prad>	is there any way to achieve it in media wiki ?
[09:07:34] <_wooz>	lo
[09:08:28] <Duesentrieb>	prad: no. because it's a wiki.
[09:08:53] <Duesentrieb>	prad: perhaps you don't want a wiki.
[09:10:12] <prad>	Duesentrieb: Thank you for the update
[09:10:27] <prad>	is there any kind of extension or something like that ... 
[09:11:00] <Duesentrieb>	the upcoming "stable version" stuff can be used for something like this (but not quite). it's not finished. other than that: no.
[09:11:25] <Duesentrieb>	all you can do is prevent editing for "real" pages, and let people post suggestins to the talk page. Lockdown can be used for that.
[09:11:46] <Duesentrieb>	but do consider using a different software. "moderation" is contrary to the idea of a wiki.
[09:11:48] <Duesentrieb>	!cms
[09:11:48] <mwbot>	You are advised to install an appropriate content management package for per-page read restrictions. We will not be held responsible should a password or bank details be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job due to borked hacks. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions> if you really want too.
[09:12:12] <Duesentrieb>	hm, doesn't *quite* fit. it's similar though :)
[09:13:03] <prad>	yeah :)
[09:13:30] <Duesentrieb>	prad: why do you think you want a wiki? because of all the hype? why do you want mediawiki?...
[09:13:52] <Duesentrieb>	there are wiki englines more designed around different levels of access, zones, and probably also moderation.
[09:14:02] <Duesentrieb>	mediawiki is designed for openness and massive scalability
[09:14:47] <prad>	actually I liked the software very much and attracted by the namespace facility and all
[09:15:17] <prad>	so I started a namespace for the faq system
[09:15:34] <Duesentrieb>	you can lock that namespace using Lockdown, and send people to the talk page
[09:15:38] <Duesentrieb>	or look into COnfluence
[09:15:56] <prad>	but when new entries started adding up, I naturally needed a way to moderate the new entries
[09:16:11] <Duesentrieb>	(see, this is great about OSS: we don'Ät have to sell it to you. we can tell you if something else is better for what you want)
[09:16:14] <prad>	can you please suggest a software that will have this moderation facility
[09:16:46] <Duesentrieb>	Confluence, afaik. Seems to be a decent platform. But i havn't done much with it
[09:16:49] <Duesentrieb>	there are probably more
[09:17:21] <Duesentrieb>	prad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Wiki_software
[09:17:43] <prad>	all that I need is a wiki like free editing software and at the same a way to moderate new pages
[09:17:50] <prad>	yeah ... checking that link
[09:18:17] <Duesentrieb>	new pages? or changes to existing pages?
[09:18:25] <Duesentrieb>	you can simply prevent people from creating pages
[09:18:35] <Duesentrieb>	then they'd have to ask you to do it
[09:18:54] <Duesentrieb>	(most fancy features can be replaced by "ask an admin", btw)
[09:19:02] <prad>	only to new pages 
[09:19:09] <Duesentrieb>	(which is the wiki way: people communicate to do stuff)
[09:19:28] <Duesentrieb>	!access
[09:19:28] <mwbot>	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[09:20:04] <Duesentrieb>	prad: read through the links. most is about preventing editing, or reading, but it works basically the same for creating pages, etc
[09:22:49] <prad>	I used the basic permission feature in my wiki, so that only logged in users can change or create new pages
[09:23:38] <Duesentrieb>	so, if you don't want them to create new pages, restrict that ability to sysops, or some new group you invent
[09:24:30] <Duesentrieb>	prad: using Lockdown, you can also set permissions poer namespace
[09:24:41] <Duesentrieb>	!lockdown
[09:24:41] <mwbot>	an extension for prevention of read or write acess by namespacd and limit access to special pages. For more information see http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown and  for more information on preventing access to your wiki, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[09:27:32] <prad>	yeah, thank you for your help :)
[09:28:27] <Duesentrieb>	new factoid, especially for you:
[09:28:32] <Duesentrieb>	!moderation | prad
[09:28:32] <mwbot>	prad: Moderation is not for Wikis. You are advised to install a forum software or propert web CMS if you want complete control over what gets modified and published. However, the FlaggedRevs extension may in future give some control over which version of a page is served per default - see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[10:37:50] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Truncation of audio files in Cortado - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11232  +comment (10derbeth)
[11:10:40] <minute-ssh>	Duesentrieb: Hi, with your lockdown extension is it possible to make it so that special pages with access restricted to them be removed from the list at Special:Specialpages when logged out and put into the restricted access section when you are logged in.
[11:21:17] <minute-ssh>	Duesentrieb_: Hi, with your lockdown extension is it possible to make it so that special pages with access restricted to them be removed from the list at Special:Specialpages when logged out and put into the restricted access section when you are logged in.
[11:24:52] <minute-ssh>	hmm
[11:24:58] <minute-ssh>	_Duesentrieb_: Did you get that?
[11:37:24] <_Duesentrieb_>	minute-ssh: hm... i donÄt think that's possible. for that to work, the SpecialPage class would have to know about the lockdown stuff. which is really can't.
[11:39:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Normalized page titles in the web API contain no underscores - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11918 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (oskar)
[11:39:49] <Duesentrieb>	michi_cc: did my message get through? my connection was confuzzeled
[11:41:29] <minute-ssh>	Duesentrieb: Yeah
[11:42:05] <minute-ssh>	It isn't too bad, especially since I am locking access to that page anyway. But nonetheless it would be nice.
[11:59:55] <Duesentrieb>	minute-ssh: yes, it would be
[12:09:04] <Filnik>	Hello
[12:11:03] <Nikerabbit>	hi
[12:12:26] <Filnik>	Hi Nikerabbit :)
[12:20:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Next Russian translation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11919 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (alexander.sigachov)
[12:27:55] <CIA-37>	03raymond * r27359 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesRu.php: 
[12:27:55] <CIA-37>	* (bug 11919) Update Russian translations
[12:27:55] <CIA-37>	 Patch by Alexander Sigachov
[12:28:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Next Russian translation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11919  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[12:37:33] <PunkRock>	argh.
[12:38:10] *PunkRock 	sees twice
[13:03:37] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27360 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/ (LanguageNames.php LocalNamesEn.php): * Support for overriding missing or wrong entries in cldr data
[13:12:38] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27361 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: * Add url
[13:17:23] <AzaTht>	no one thgink 9204 could be fixed on the wiki?
[13:31:25] <Nikerabbit>	[10-Nov-2007 12:34:25] PHP Strict Standards:  Non-static method Revision::newNullRevision() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /va
[13:31:29] <Nikerabbit>	r/www/w/includes/Title.php on line 2362
[13:38:50] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27362 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: * Everything calls this function statically, mark it such to prevent E_STRICT
[13:53:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Entity in message aboutsite - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11920 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Li-sung)
[13:56:29] <minute-ssh>	Man, MessagesEn.php always takes so long to upload.
[14:01:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Plural in message number_of_watching_users_pageview - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11921 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Li-sung)
[14:11:04] <szczepanek>	how can I change logo on my wiki?
[14:12:26] <PunkRock>	!search logo
[14:12:26] <mwbot>	You don't have permission to do that.
[14:12:53] <Jack_Phoenix>	!logo
[14:12:53] <mwbot>	The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by the $wgLogo configuration setting in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply need to change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo image. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo> for more information.
[14:12:58] <Jack_Phoenix>	whee
[14:13:05] <PunkRock>	Jack_Phoenix: thnx :)
[14:13:14] <Jack_Phoenix>	np :)
[14:13:25] <szczepanek>	thanks ;-)
[14:13:34] <Jack_Phoenix>	enjoy~
[14:15:58] <grantf_x>	!mwbot
[14:15:58] <mwbot>	Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn
[14:23:34] <M3phist0>	Hello
[14:23:56] <M3phist0>	Anybody here who could help me?
[14:26:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Entity in message aboutsite - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11920  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[14:32:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default MediaWiki text for Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11912  (10cbass)
[14:33:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default MediaWiki text for Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11912  (10cbass)
[14:46:22] <harveyd>	Hey, I just installed media wiki, and was wondering what the best method for customising the layout was
[14:46:35] <harveyd>	skins seems to per user configurable options
[14:51:23] <minute-ssh>	harveyd: skins
[14:53:14] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27363 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * (bug 11921) Support plural in message number_of_watching_users_pageview
[14:54:03] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Plural in message number_of_watching_users_pageview - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11921  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[14:55:57] <CIA-37>	03rotem * r27364 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[15:05:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Edit conflict not registered properly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11922 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (smithellen)
[15:09:11] <PunkRock>	+/jksldfasdf
[15:10:40] <Nikerabbit>	meow
[15:10:47] <PunkRock>	point
[15:11:16] <Nikerabbit>	?
[15:13:30] <PunkRock>	never seen 'pinky and brain'?
[15:19:26] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change default MediaWiki text for Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11912  +comment (10tstarling)
[15:40:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Set language and projectname for Lak Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11890  +comment (10jeluf)
[15:48:37] <^demon>	Does anyone know of any issues with ExtensionFunctions in MW 1.11?
[15:49:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774  (10arkaitz)
[15:49:58] <ubunturos>	can one install Mediawiki to run with just Apache? (
[15:49:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707  (10triyork)
[15:50:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Default group for Oversight extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Oversight; (triyork)
[15:51:12] <Duesentrieb>	ubunturos: no. you also need php and mysql, at least
[15:51:54] <ubunturos>	Duesentrieb: hmm .. 
[15:52:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change the 'userrights' requirement by 'passwordreset' in the PasswordReset extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11914  +comment (10robin_1273)
[15:52:30] <^demon>	Fixed it, nevermind
[16:04:44] <minute-ssh>	Anyone know why the installer might fail if the memory limit is lower than 20M?
[16:07:37] <^demon>	Anyone have any idea about ConfirmAccount?
[16:09:12] <PunkRock>	minute-ssh: maybe it is mem consuming to read the mysql in?
[16:16:27] <minute-ssh>	PunkRock: mm, ok
[16:16:59] <minute-ssh>	I guess that means it isn't anything about hevy memory PHP - I will include that in my rewrite also then.
[16:17:28] <minute-ssh>	But 20MB is a lot of RAM, especially for a MySQL query.
[16:18:48] <PunkRock>	minute-ssh: i have to correct me. the sql doesn't look like it's very big.
[16:18:57] <PunkRock>	just some kb.
[16:18:57] <minute-ssh>	yeah
[16:19:34] <minute-ssh>	Raising it won't do any harm anyway, so I may aswell keep the code.
[16:19:35] <^demon>	Got it
[16:22:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set logos on Lithuanian Wikisource and Lithuanian Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11924 15enhancement; low; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vpovilaitis)
[16:24:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Interwiki prefixes mistaken for property names (1.0RC2) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11925 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (langec)
[16:28:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set logos on Catalan Wikisource and Catalan Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11004   +shell (10a9502784)
[16:29:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set logos on Lithuanian Wikisource and Lithuanian Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11924   +shell (10a9502784)
[16:51:06] <nofx-punk>	hi all
[16:52:39] <nofx-punk>	i notice on wikipedia when inserting table css class="wikitable", how to add that class to local mediawiki ?
[16:54:15] <Li-sung>	nofx-punk: copy wikitable styles from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css to local Common.css
[16:57:12] <nofx-punk>	Li-sung: i dont have Common.css in directory where my local mediawiki is installed
[16:58:04] <Li-sung>	nofx-punk: I mean message MediaWiki:Common.css
[17:01:41] <nofx-punk>	Li-sung: thank you! :-)
[17:22:44] <betacommand>	I have a question, A few months ago I made my wiki localhost. how do I make it public again?
[17:31:58] <FreeNom>	re
[17:35:20] <MONK3000>	does someone knows an extension for this: I want to create articles somewhere in the back so i can "publish" them later (not automatically) in the real wiki
[17:38:36] <MONK3000>	i could code me sth in php but i prefer an inhouse-solution
[18:04:46] *VasilievVV 	notes http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ as an interesing doc on MediaWiki code
[18:05:48] <Hojjat>	VasilievVV hey!
[18:13:20] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I have a question, a few months ago I configured my wiki for localhost only access, how do I change it back?
[18:13:41] <VasilievVV>	betacommand: did you use .htaccess?
[18:15:22] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27366 10/trunk/extensions/ (63 files in 52 dirs): 
[18:15:22] <CIA-37>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[18:15:22] <CIA-37>	* Fixes and additions to 52 extensions for ar, cs, es, fi, frp, hsb, hu, la, nl, oc, pl, sk, tet
[18:15:22] <CIA-37>	* change indentation for export of a few extension's messages in Translate/MessageGroups.php
[18:21:49] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I dont think so
[18:22:19] <VasilievVV>	betacommand: ok, which way did you use to make localhost only access?
[18:24:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) After upgrade '[edit]' links replaced by non-linked text ' <editsection-brackets>' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (garth.webb)
[18:24:34] *PunkRock 	offers VasilievVV his crystalball.
[18:24:56] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I dont remember
[18:25:09] <betacommand>	I have it configured on a USB drive
[18:26:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) After upgrade '[edit]' links replaced by non-linked text '< editsection-brackets>' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11926  (10raimond.spekking)
[18:28:19] <Nikerabbit>	Raymond_: could that be that he forgot to updates serializes translations?
[18:28:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742  +comment (10garas-)
[18:28:54] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742  (10garas-)
[18:29:23] <Raymond_>	Nikerabbit: dunno. I never have had 1.8
[18:31:30] <VasilievVV>	betacommand: ok, so i can't help you. Crystall balls are too expensive now
[18:32:37] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I figured it out
[18:33:05] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_on_a_stick#Edit_two_text_files_to_configure_the_servers
[18:34:10] <CIA-37>	03raymond * r27367 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLt.php: 
[18:34:10] <CIA-37>	* (bug 9742) Update Lithuanian translations
[18:34:10] <CIA-37>	 Patch by Edgaras
[18:34:26] <VasilievVV>	betacommand: replace "Listen 127.0.0.1:80" with "Listen 80"
[18:34:29] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[18:38:04] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I figured that ouy
[18:38:08] <betacommand>	*out
[18:38:19] <VasilievVV>	betacommand: did it help?
[18:38:49] <betacommand>	VasilievVV: I need to go to a seperate computer to test
[18:39:04] <VasilievVV>	This should help
[18:46:55] <VasilievVV>	Is there a way to refuse user edit an article displaying an error message?
[18:49:54] <Berto_d_Sera>	Hi all :)
[18:50:50] <Berto_d_Sera>	LeonWP, are you here?
[18:57:09] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27368 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Update language changes in RELEASE-NOTES
[19:14:33] <nofx-punk>	russian users here ?
[19:15:42] <VasilievVV>	nofx-punk: yes
[19:18:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ConfirmAccount extension : french localization update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11927 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[19:23:04] <Berto_d_Sera>	nofx-punk: yes, if you include even the "sort of", like me :)
[19:27:47] <Ryan_Lane>	I had an issue the other day with downloads and uploads. It seems all of the new office formats show up with the same mime type. I solved the problem by allowing all of the extensions as the same mime type, and reporting the mime type based upon the extension in the guessmimetype function. Is there a better way for me to do this?
[19:30:37] <Duesentrieb>	Ryan_Lane: depends. what "same mime type"?
[19:30:54] <Ryan_Lane>	they are all "application/msword"
[19:31:11] <Duesentrieb>	interesting. perhaps they are really all the same internally.
[19:31:23] <Ryan_Lane>	they all share the same magic number
[19:31:27] <Duesentrieb>	Ryan_Lane: do you have external mime detection enabled?
[19:31:30] <Ryan_Lane>	which is extremely annoying.
[19:31:39] <Ryan_Lane>	both internal and external show the same
[19:31:45] <Duesentrieb>	well, if they have the same magic number, mime magic can't keep them apart...
[19:31:52] <Ryan_Lane>	exactly ;)
[19:31:56] <Duesentrieb>	*shrug*
[19:32:03] <Duesentrieb>	don't use office then :)
[19:32:10] <Ryan_Lane>	so the way I'm doing it is essentially the only way to do it?
[19:32:12] <Ryan_Lane>	ha
[19:32:14] <Ryan_Lane>	I wish
[19:32:27] <Duesentrieb>	i guess so.
[19:32:50] <Duesentrieb>	you could also hardcode some rule like "if it's application/mime, then look at the extension".
[19:33:01] <Duesentrieb>	but that would be just taht - and uglöy hack
[19:33:04] <Ryan_Lane>	So, that brings me to my next question... Can I add a hook in guessMimeType for this?
[19:33:13] <Duesentrieb>	ugh
[19:33:35] <Duesentrieb>	actually, i wouldn't add hooks in there... people will start to rely on it. my plan is actually to get rid of that cruft entirely
[19:33:43] <Ryan_Lane>	ah
[19:33:43] <Duesentrieb>	it stinks
[19:33:49] *Duesentrieb 	is allowed to say that, he wrote it
[19:34:00] <Ryan_Lane>	what will you use instead?
[19:34:21] <Duesentrieb>	no generic mime type detection at all-
[19:34:32] <Duesentrieb>	one handler per file type. it verifies the contents and returns the mime type
[19:34:47] <Duesentrieb>	everythign else is "unknown".
[19:34:55] <Ryan_Lane>	ah, ok. that makes sense
[19:35:01] <Duesentrieb>	why do you care about the mime type of office docs anyway? it's not like it's used for anything
[19:35:04] <Ryan_Lane>	this is part of that new backend that tim is working on?
[19:35:14] <Duesentrieb>	it's kind of complementary
[19:35:23] <Ryan_Lane>	it actually is used to open the files
[19:35:25] <Duesentrieb>	tim did storage and rendering
[19:35:34] <Duesentrieb>	the bit that is missing is a rewrite opf upload handling
[19:35:43] <Ryan_Lane>	if the mime type of an excel spreadsheet is "application/msword" word opens it
[19:35:44] <Duesentrieb>	to open the files?...
[19:35:56] <Duesentrieb>	no - when you load the files, they do not go via mediawiki
[19:36:01] <Duesentrieb>	they come directly from the webserver.
[19:36:13] <Duesentrieb>	and they will have the mime type the webserver gives them, according to their extension.
[19:36:20] <Duesentrieb>	this is not controlled by mediawiki at all
[19:36:23] <Duesentrieb>	look at mod_mime
[19:36:31] <Ryan_Lane>	the web server doesn't deliver them
[19:36:36] <Duesentrieb>	o_O
[19:36:50] <Ryan_Lane>	I use img_auth
[19:36:54] <Duesentrieb>	ah
[19:36:59] <Duesentrieb>	well, in that case, you are right
[19:37:52] <Ryan_Lane>	yeah, makes things kind of confusing
[19:47:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11928 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[20:23:39] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27369 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesCs.php: 
[20:23:39] <CIA-37>	Update date formatting for Czech
[20:23:39] <CIA-37>	Submitted by: Li-sung
[20:30:33] <Filnik>	Hello
[21:03:08] <Attic_Cat>	siebrand I got your message on betawiki
[21:09:47] <siebrand>	Attic_Cat: not sure which :)
[21:17:48] <Attic_Cat>	the welcome message
[22:57:18] <Steve__>	for some reason this isn't returning any results on my 1.12: http://localhost/phase3/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixindex&from=MediaWiki%3ADis
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	03rainman * r27370 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (16 files in 6 dirs): 
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	Highlighting, more work-in-progress:
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	* Basic highlighting algorithm in class Highlight,
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	 score text fragments, redirects and section names
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	* Untested incremental index updates for .hl indexes
[22:59:11] <CIA-36>	* Added read operations to Buffer
[23:01:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section edit links showing up in wrong place - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1629  (10erikbaas)
[23:04:02] <Nikerabbit>	yay
[23:07:21] <AzaTht>	I think MW should start using DateTime instead of the old date functions
[23:07:31] <AzaTht>	DateTime handles 94 bit dates
[23:07:35] <AzaTht>	64*
[23:08:24] <AzaTht>	$t =new DateTime("10 September 1365 - 30 min");print $t->format("c");
[23:08:32] <AzaTht>	gives 1365-09-09T23:30:00+01:00
[23:13:28] <Nikerabbit>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localization_checks updated
[23:25:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) use DateTime in #time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11929 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (azatoth)
[23:37:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) citation templates, cite book and template limits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11930 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (thischarmingman)
[23:40:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PRE lower border not shown - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11465  -patch  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)