[00:00:10] <jlerner>	i'm seeing HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[00:00:33] <jlerner>	ah ok, bad example: "Neither the page nor its history have been copied."
[00:01:08] <domas>	well, http code is for your browser
[00:01:10] <domas>	not a reader
[00:01:18] <jlerner>	yes
[00:01:56] <jlerner>	but a page like that might as well tell web spiders to forget about it, and visit the new target page instead
[00:02:29] <domas>	its not even a redirect
[00:03:12] <jlerner>	use of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:MovedToMediaWiki kind of implies redirect tho
[00:17:14] <cyntek>	I need  help configureing Alsa for an SB0040 Audigy 2 card. I have installed and already recompiled the kernel to use alsa and add emu10k1 in the kernel. 
[00:17:43] <flyingparchment>	cyntek: ask a linux channel
[00:26:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Server should return http status code 301 on " this page has been moved" pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11946 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (jlerner)
[00:37:40] <Betacommand>	anyone here familiar with Uniform Server
[00:58:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) not all hooks (ParserBeforeStrip) available in template - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3438  +comment (10ericburnett)
[00:59:30] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) not all hooks (ParserBeforeStrip) available in template - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3438  +comment (10ericburnett)
[01:06:01] <AaronSchulz>	Betacommand: I had it one breafly, then got xampp
[01:06:14] <AaronSchulz>	*on
[01:06:22] <Betacommand>	xammp?
[01:06:58] <Betacommand>	AaronSchulz: I am fighting with my router
[01:08:06] <Betacommand>	I need it to forward port 80 but I cant figure out how do do it
[01:17:13] <AaronSchulz>	what is the router local IP?
[02:18:51] <Nervosa>	Hello, Im useing 1.6 and haveing an issue useing a template. The 1st life after the =, if I put a * it is not displayed as an indent.
[02:19:29] <Nervosa>	1st line*
[02:28:42] <LiquidIceUK>	anyone able to tell me how to get Taxobox working all i see is Template:Taxobox
[04:25:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ZH lonelypagestext like deadendpagestext; also variants bug - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11947 normal; high; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (jidanni)
[04:31:17] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27403 10/trunk/fundcore/schulenburg_main_page/ (34 files in 4 dirs): Work in progress on new main page, based on a mockup by Frank Schulenburg. Licensed under CC-BY-SA.
[04:36:28] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27404 10/trunk/fundcore/schulenburg_main_page/ (donate-footer.inc donate-header.inc): these are unused
[04:44:03] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) updateRestrictions.php not working - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10700  +comment (10jidanni)
[04:44:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) updateRestrictions.php not working - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10700  +comment (10jidanni)
[04:44:46] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Special:Protectedpages doesn't show pre-1.10 protections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11487  +comment (10jidanni)
[05:18:00] <TimStarling>	remind me why we have {{REVISIONID}}?
[05:18:40] <TimStarling>	AaronSchulz?
[05:19:13] <AaronSchulz>	wo0t?
[05:19:19] <TimStarling>	any idea?
[05:20:03] <AaronSchulz>	you mean the obvious answer "to get the rev ID" or the "what it is used for" answer? ;)
[05:20:54] <TimStarling>	it is causing me trouble, it needs to justify its existence or get chopped into little bits
[05:20:57] <TimStarling>	so what is it used for?
[05:21:10] <MZMcBride>	the test wiki has it on the main page, i believe
[05:21:44] <MZMcBride>	nvm, i'm thinking of currentversion
[05:22:29] <shortcircuit>	Erm...Is it something I could hack into fixing Atom/RSS feeds?
[05:23:06] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Env&action=edit ;)
[05:23:32] <shortcircuit>	Just something one of my users complained about.  The URL for the Recent Changes feeds points to the page, rather than the diff or revision leading to the feed event.
[05:23:40] <AaronSchulz>	only think I can find
[05:24:10] <AaronSchulz>	which is really just a manual
[05:24:56] <MZMcBride>	when it was added, it says "useful for proper citation"
[05:25:31] <MZMcBride>	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1739
[05:26:02] <TimStarling>	ok, it can get the axe then
[05:26:36] <AaronSchulz>	is it really that annoying to implement?
[05:26:59] <TimStarling>	were you here when I was talking about multiple parses on save?
[05:27:13] <TimStarling>	we parse the whole article text once for SpamBlacklist, and twice for ConfirmEdit
[05:27:30] <TimStarling>	then once again post-save for the link updates and parser cache
[05:27:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Moving pages to their own redirects should be permitted - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11948 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (phi1ipp)
[05:27:42] <AaronSchulz>	ugh :s
[05:27:46] <TimStarling>	this makes saving very very slow
[05:27:59] *AaronSchulz 	looks at flaggedrevs again
[05:28:05] <TimStarling>	now, fundamentally, there is no revision ID before the EditFilter extensions run
[05:28:33] <laowai>	wiki gives china too much control over access, as do all pages.  all china traffic should be redirected to informational pages about tiananmen
[05:28:36] <TimStarling>	but the EditFilter extensions need the parse
[05:28:48] <AaronSchulz>	laowai: ...
[05:29:09] <TimStarling>	so I want to do a single parse for the first EditFilter extension that needs it, then reuse that parse post-update
[05:29:38] <TimStarling>	the only way to do that and still have {{REVISIONID}} would be to somehow put a placeholder into the parser output and replace it once the revision ID is known
[05:29:58] <laowai>	it would be like a reverse firewall.  it would be amazing
[05:30:08] <TimStarling>	but to do that and respect <nowiki>{{REVISIONID}}</nowiki>, and to produce sensible output when the post-parse replacer is not called, is no simple thing
[05:30:29] <TimStarling>	so if it's no big deal, I'd rather kill it
[05:30:54] <TimStarling>	and yes, I'm aware FlaggedRevs uses $parser->mRevisionId for all sorts of odd purposes
[05:31:05] <TimStarling>	it'll have to be fixed to use a saner data flow
[05:31:25] <AaronSchulz>	actually I was just worried about the extra parse layer for stable pages
[05:32:41] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, but if mRevisionId is getting the axe...
[05:32:45] <AaronSchulz>	not sure what to use instead
[05:34:01] <TimStarling>	obviously you'll have to add something for-purpose instead of misusing an effectively private member variable of an unrelated object
[05:34:30] <TimStarling>	or I could just set it
[05:34:44] <TimStarling>	that would bridge the compatibility gap
[05:35:00] <TimStarling>	hmmm
[05:35:09] <TimStarling>	not before parse though, when do you need it in FlaggedRevs?
[05:35:41] <AaronSchulz>	lets see, for the review form, after parse, before output
[05:36:05] <AaronSchulz>	for the parser hooks, as revisions for templates/images are fetched
[05:36:11] <AaronSchulz>	which is preparse I think
[05:36:40] <TimStarling>	well, it's during parse
[05:37:25] <TimStarling>	what exactly do you use it for during parse?
[05:39:09] <AaronSchulz>	if the user is viewing a stable version of a page, the hooks cause select which images/template rev IDs to use. These correspond to the the stable revision's ID. So if rev X is stable. When a template for it is about to be looked up, it checks the flaggedtemplate table for rev X, for that that template, and gets the template rev ID
[05:39:46] <AaronSchulz>	*hooks select
[05:40:19] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27405 10/branches/fundcore/: Create branch subdirectory for fundcore
[05:40:28] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27406 10/branches/fundcore/1.0/: Branch from December 2006 FundCORE
[05:41:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create Breton Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11949 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (pathoschild)
[05:41:32] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27407 10/trunk/fundcore/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Remove FundCORE 1.0 from trunk
[05:45:22] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: meh, the ID is always known before hand when the flaggedrevs parsing stuff is called
[05:45:49] <AaronSchulz>	so it's not a problem then
[05:46:04] <AaronSchulz>	I could just change some stuff a little
[05:49:51] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27408 10/trunk/fundcore/ (185 files in 25 dirs): October 2007 FundCORE
[05:50:48] <TimStarling>	so I could keep {{REVISIONID}}, but it would only work for old and stable revision views
[05:50:57] <TimStarling>	it wouldn't work for current revision views
[05:52:42] <AaronSchulz>	$outputText = $wgParser->preprocess( $text, $title, $options, $id );
[05:52:47] <AaronSchulz>	$parserOut = $wgParser->parse( $text, $title, $options, true, true, $id );
[05:53:25] <AaronSchulz>	$id is just plopped right in from there
[05:54:17] <TimStarling>	ok
[05:55:18] <TimStarling>	this is good, it means I don't have to change Parser.php, which is in pieces in my working copy at the moment
[05:55:21] <AaronSchulz>	I don't know why I still have $id=NULL in the function calls
[05:55:41] <AaronSchulz>	it's always given, I'll have to update that whenever my next commit comes
[06:01:14] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: so when you kill some parse redundancy, do you expect a huge performance boost?
[06:02:52] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27409 10/branches/fundcore/1.0/schulenburg_main_page/: Remove new donation page prototype from old branch.
[06:03:38] <TimStarling>	the saving depends on whether you use section editing or not
[06:04:04] <TimStarling>	but for a non-section save of a large article, the improvement should be huge
[06:04:45] <TimStarling>	3-4 times faster
[06:06:02] *AaronSchulz 	goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States&action=edit
[06:06:33] <AaronSchulz>	wow
[06:07:05] <AaronSchulz>	The Wikimedia Foundation servers are currently experiencing technical difficulties.
[06:07:07] <AaronSchulz>	The problem is most likely temporary and will hopefully be fixed soon. Please check back in a few minutes.
[06:07:23] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: ;)
[06:07:40] <TimStarling>	yeah, so that might start working, for one thing
[06:18:36] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27410 10/USERINFO/straussd: Update user information for straussd
[06:24:52] <ubunturos>	is there a way to have a page that acts like a RSS reader?
[06:27:34] *AaronSchulz 	has an annoying cough today
[06:30:10] <ubunturos>	is there a way to have a page on mediawiki that acts like a RSS reader? (fetching contents from other pages)?
[06:30:28] <AaronSchulz>	what pages? when?
[06:30:47] <AaronSchulz>	you mean like an API?
[06:30:53] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: may be..
[06:31:28] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: for example [[Image:filename.png]] inserts an image, is there something like [[RSS:url]]?
[06:32:03] <AaronSchulz>	not sure what you mean
[06:32:30] <AaronSchulz>	you mean like have a blog from another site in a wiki page?
[06:32:44] *AaronSchulz 	coughs more
[06:33:04] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: hmm, yes - but not necessarily a blog
[06:33:12] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: do you use KDE / GNU/Linux ?
[06:33:16] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: I'd really like to move to a warmer climate
[06:34:44] <AaronSchulz>	ubunturos: some Red Hat, but only for class. I mainly just use XP. Eventually I will get a beater and install ubuntu and test around...
[06:35:00] <AaronSchulz>	ubunturos: did you search MediaWiki.org?
[06:35:08] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: yes, didn't yeild results
[06:35:22] <AaronSchulz>	though I'd be careful of XSS issues
[06:36:12] <AaronSchulz>	you saw http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FeedImport ?
[06:37:17] <ubunturos>	AaronSchulz: hmm, looks like, I missed the link. Thanks for the link
[06:38:07] <AaronSchulz>	Duesentrieb was involved in writing it, so I'd assume it's not total crackpot unsecure stuff
[07:02:56] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Green_Revolution&oldid=170914308
[07:03:10] <AaronSchulz>	I think that speaks for itself
[07:06:28] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27411 10/trunk/fundcore/themes/fundcore/ (25 files in 2 dirs): Add new FundCORE theme.
[07:07:26] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27412 10/trunk/fundcore/modules/fundcore_frontpage/ (. fundcore_frontpage.info fundcore_frontpage.module): Initial FundCORE frontpage module
[07:15:54] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27413 10/trunk/fundcore/modules/fundcore_frontpage/ (25 files in 2 dirs): Revised FundCORE front page
[07:23:27] <putlake>	Generous people, this is kind of an SOS. My site is just down without any reason or error or anything to diagnose with. All pages are turning up blank and the Apache logs say everything is OK (HTTP code 200)
[07:23:52] <putlake>	I run a few other sites on the same account on a shared host - only my MediaWiki site is down
[07:23:53] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27414 10/trunk/fundcore/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Revised FundCORE front page
[07:24:47] <putlake>	Does anyone have any ideas on how i can troubleshoot? I suspect my server host has done something but all my other sites are working (including PHP) so I don't know what to tell tech support
[07:27:53] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27415 10/trunk/fundcore/modules/panels/ (46 files in 4 dirs): Install Panels 1.2
[07:30:07] <AaronSchulz>	putlake: is error_reporting on?
[07:30:35] <putlake>	Aaron, this is a shared server so I have limited control. I don't know if it's on
[07:30:54] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27416 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[07:30:54] <CIA-36>	Added EditFilterMerged hook: like EditFilter but uses the text after section
[07:30:54] <CIA-36>	merging. This allows ConfirmEdit and SpamBlacklist to share a parse with
[07:30:54] <CIA-36>	Article::editUpdates(). Article::prepareTextForEdit() facilitates this sharing.
[07:30:54] <CIA-36>	Unfortunately this means that {{REVISIONID}} will no longer work for current
[07:30:55] <CIA-36>	page views.
[07:31:15] <putlake>	http://www.diffen.com/difference/Cluster_Headache_vs_Migraine - this is what i get
[07:31:29] <putlake>	after a LONG wait, a blank page
[07:31:37] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27417 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: doc tweak
[07:32:30] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27418 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Allow the special page function to be a callback, not just a function name.
[07:34:33] <putlake>	AaronSchulz - any ideas?
[07:34:50] <AaronSchulz>	can't help you there, sorry
[07:42:40] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27419 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ (8 files): 
[07:42:40] <CIA-36>	* Optimised startup
[07:42:40] <CIA-36>	* Use the new EditFilterMerged hook if available, for faster link finding
[07:44:30] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27420 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/ (3 files): 
[07:44:30] <CIA-36>	* Optimised startup
[07:44:30] <CIA-36>	* Use the new EditFilterMerged hook if available, for faster link finding
[07:44:30] <CIA-36>	* Random bits of code were leaking out of the body file into the loader, poked them back in.
[07:44:56] <CIA-36>	03tstarling * r27421 10/trunk/extensions/i18n.db: Two more extensions using $messages
[07:54:52] <TheFearow>	Anyone know a simple way to generate a patch when your subversion client doesnt support it?
[07:56:57] <CIA-36>	03straussd * r27422 10/trunk/fundcore/modules/fundcore_frontpage/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Use Panels module for FundCORE frontpage
[07:57:24] <PunkRock>	TheFearow: on linux use diff
[07:57:52] <TheFearow>	Not on linux, but would Mac have that command?
[07:58:04] <TheFearow>	NEvermind, ill just upload the entire file.
[07:58:08] <PunkRock>	possible.
[07:59:58] <TheFearow>	Will I get killed for attaching a 90-something KB file to a bug?
[08:00:00] <TheFearow>	Yay! Mac has diff.
[08:00:02] <TheFearow>	What would be the params for doing a patch file between two files?
[08:04:46] <TheFearow>	PunkRock, what is the basic syntax for generating a standard diff? All I can get it to do is output nothing.
[08:05:36] <TheFearow>	Whoops, nvm :)
[08:13:54] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Use transclusions to count articles as well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11868  +comment (10fearow00)
[08:14:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use transclusions to count articles as well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11868  (10fearow00)
[08:16:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use transclusions to count articles as well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11868   +need-review +patch +shell (10fearow00)
[08:34:36] <CIA-36>	03raymond * r27423 10/trunk/ (10 files in 9 dirs): * Updates German
[08:41:48] <CIA-36>	03raymond * r27424 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[08:41:48] <CIA-36>	* (bugs 11939,11940,11941,11942) Update French translations
[08:41:48] <CIA-36>	 Patches by Bertrand GRONDIN
[08:42:16] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11942  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[08:42:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11941  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[08:42:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) update french translation in ConfirmAccount extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11940  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[08:43:05] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11939  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[08:49:32] <CIA-36>	03siebrand * r27425 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Changes in extension Translate to adapt to recent changes in message handling for ConfirmEdit, FancyCaptcha, and SpamBlacklist
[08:54:45] <siebrand>	TimStarling: planning on changing message handling for any other extensions?
[08:56:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) parser passes 'UNIQ' tokens to hook, instead of text - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8451  +comment (10bacher)
[09:05:20] <TimStarling>	siebrand: not right now, no
[09:05:54] <siebrand>	TimStarling: ok. If you are planning to, please drop a line in advance next time.
[09:06:03] <TimStarling>	why?
[09:06:29] <siebrand>	TimStarling: it may break extension Translate and thus Betawiki.
[09:06:42] <siebrand>	TimStarling: if we know about it, we can prevent that.
[09:06:50] <_wooz>	lo
[09:15:55] <TimStarling>	presumably I can just update extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php myself, can't I?
[09:16:28] <domas>	hey Tim
[09:16:44] <TimStarling>	hello Domas
[09:33:31] <Caldrin>	Hi!
[09:39:48] <siebrand>	TimStarling: that would be great.
[09:41:57] <domas>	TimStarling: there is currently the 'random page in category' feature committed in, but it is currently gimped and not usable on our sites. The options are: a) make it an extension b) not use it in misermode c) add cl_random column/index on categorylinks. 
[09:42:05] <domas>	what would be your choice? :)
[09:43:28] <TimStarling>	a special page? presumably that could be made an extension pretty easily
[09:43:56] <domas>	well, if we want to have it on site, c) is the only option
[09:44:07] <TimStarling>	I know, I'm just not sure it's important enough
[09:44:09] <domas>	now, is few gigs of additional indexing for this feature an option for us or no 
[09:44:12] <domas>	indeed
[09:44:21] <domas>	I've been contemplating on the importance myself :)
[09:45:45] <TimStarling>	I think we can just say "no" on this one
[09:46:10] <TimStarling>	we can have an extension and a script on the toolserver instead
[09:46:36] <TimStarling>	if it's really popular, we can watch the users DoS the toolserver, that's always fun
[09:46:42] <domas>	;-D
[09:55:28] <Nikerabbit>	hmm &lt;captcha&gt;
[09:56:02] <Nikerabbit>	wasn't specialpage.php supposed to load all messages?
[10:02:02] <Nikerabbit>	TimStarling: a bug in recent refactoring?
[10:28:11] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27426 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Merged from trunk. Rev 27049, 27051-27058
[10:34:27] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27427 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (37 files in 7 dirs): Svnmerge from trunk. Revisions: 27060-27064,27067-27068,27073-27074,27077,27081,27084,27091-27094
[10:34:30] <DerrickFarnell>	Hi - Times in signatures in my wiki are displayed in PST, and I'd prefer them to be set in UTC - could someone please tell me how to do this?
[10:35:29] <DerrickFarnell>	Setting the time in my preferences only changes how times are presented in recent changes and history, not in signatures.
[10:37:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11950 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[10:40:19] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27428 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (60 files in 7 dirs): Svnmerge from trunk. Revisions: 27097 to 27196
[10:42:37] <TimStarling>	DerrickFarnell: $wgLocaltimezone
[10:43:15] <TimStarling>	look it up in DefaultSettings.php
[10:44:29] <DerrickFarnell>	Thanks! :)
[10:46:51] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27429 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (36 files in 4 dirs): Svnmerge from trunk. Revisions: 27200 to 27251
[10:52:06] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27430 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (35 files in 6 dirs): Svnmerge from trunk. Revisions 27263 to 27318
[11:02:06] <CIA-36>	03rfrisar * r27432 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (. languages/messages/MessagesFa.php): Svnmerge from trunk. Revsion 27356.
[11:02:41] <Maj>	Hi Guys 
[11:02:42] <Maj>	:)
[11:03:10] <Maj>	Is there any extensions to disable the user accounts ?
[11:03:20] <Maj>	or suspend temperaroly?
[11:04:41] <flyingparchment>	Special:Blockip
[11:05:20] <Maj>	not that , I just want to disable people from posting  just for some time 
[11:05:27] <Maj>	then need to enable the accounts 
[11:05:35] <flyingparchment>	and why doesn't Special:Blockip do what you need?
[11:05:55] <Maj>	oh let me check that extension :) thanks 
[11:06:01] <flyingparchment>	it's not an extension
[11:06:10] <Pathoschild>	Maj: You want to stop all edits, and all account registration?
[11:06:14] <Maj>	special pages ?
[11:06:21] <flyingparchment>	yes, it's a special page
[11:06:43] <Maj>	account registrations should  be there ... but just want to disable the accounts already there 
[11:07:04] <Maj>	then after 2 months or so I just want to enable it back 
[11:07:18] <Maj>	so the users can post and login :)
[11:08:25] <Pathoschild>	!rights | Maj
[11:08:25] <mwbot>	Maj: For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[11:08:36] <Pathoschild>	You could just remove editing rights from everyone.
[11:09:03] <Maj>	cool  thanks  much guys let me check it :)
[11:09:08] <Pathoschild>	Welcome.
[11:12:00] <FreeNom>	how to add a link (which is on another page) to a page?
[11:12:38] <FreeNom>	and make it work
[11:14:02] <Maj>	hey guys one more silly doubt ;)
[11:14:10] <Maj>	how do i delete a user ?
[11:14:30] <FreeNom>	i was here first ;)
[11:14:43] <Maj>	he he Ok Ok after that ;)
[11:14:50] <FreeNom>	:D
[11:14:53] <FreeNom>	j/k
[11:14:56] <Maj>	:-P
[11:16:00] <FreeNom>	anybody? Nikerabbit?
[11:16:39] <Maj>	anybody ? mwbot/Pathoschild ?
[11:16:41] <Maj>	;)
[11:16:47] <FreeNom>	:)
[11:17:07] <Pathoschild>	Maj: My recommendation: Don't.
[11:17:19] <Pathoschild>	It can get very messy. :)
[11:17:20] <Nikerabbit>	ugga
[11:17:40] <Maj>	oh :(
[11:17:41] <FreeNom>	FreeNom>	how to add a link (which is on another page) to a page?
[11:17:56] <Maj>	may be I can delete from backend right 
[11:17:57] <Nikerabbit>	explain
[11:18:02] *Pathoschild 	search his logs to find his answer the last time it was asked.
[11:18:03] <Maj>	mysql ?
[11:18:27] <Pathoschild>	Maj: Yes, but users are in several tables (ie, users, recentchanges, history...)
[11:18:37] <FreeNom>	i'd like to have (only) one place for a link
[11:18:41] <Maj>	hmm... :(
[11:18:57] <FreeNom>	s when it changes ==> only one iplace to change
[11:19:00] <Pathoschild>	FreeNom: You want to define a link in one place, then use it in several other places?
[11:19:01] <FreeNom>	*so
[11:19:08] <Nikerabbit>	use a template
[11:19:09] <FreeNom>	yep
[11:19:18] <Pathoschild>	!templates | FreeNom 
[11:19:18] <mwbot>	FreeNom : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
[11:19:37] <FreeNom>	ok, I'll try
[11:19:40] <FreeNom>	thanks
[11:19:43] <Pathoschild>	Welcome.
[11:31:25] <Pathoschild>	!deleteuser is Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser>.
[11:31:25] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: deleteuser
[11:31:56] <Pathoschild>	Maj: See above. :)
[11:32:02] <Maj>	Okay :)
[11:34:23] <Maj>	Thanks Guys :)
[11:34:35] <Maj>	see ya !!! ;)
[11:35:15] <CIA-36>	03abernala * r27433 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (5 files in 3 dirs): A new action query RandomPage added.
[11:46:52] <CIA-36>	03abernala * r27434 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/SpecialRandompage.php:
[12:08:27] <frozeneskimo>	hello, i recently updated mediawiki to 1.11.0, but i'm having a slight problem, the thumbnail generation is failing because of permission problems. i've found out that it works when the folder mediawiki is generating the thumbnail in is 777, but by the default it seems to be 755. i've ran update.php, rebuildLinks.php, and rebuildImages.php, the problem still remains.... any ideas?
[12:08:52] <frozeneskimo>	s/rebuildLinks/refreshLinks
[12:17:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New mailing list for eu.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11774  (10arkaitz)
[12:23:08] <CIA-36>	03abernala * r27435 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/api/ApiQueryRandomPage.php: A new query action to get a random page
[12:23:25] <Pathoschild>	frozeneskimo: Is the /images/ folder itself set to 777?
[12:23:36] <frozeneskimo>	yeah
[12:23:59] <frozeneskimo>	i tried to do a recursive chmod but
[12:24:13] <frozeneskimo>	i dont have a shell and this online file manager is rather limited
[12:24:18] <frozeneskimo>	it didn't really work
[12:24:28] <frozeneskimo>	regardless, i was thinking maybe mediawiki was making folders with bad permissions?
[12:25:30] <Pathoschild>	No idea.
[12:25:34] <Pathoschild>	!support | frozeneskimo 
[12:25:34] <mwbot>	frozeneskimo : If we are unable to answer your query there are alternate avenues you can take to get support. There is a support mailing list <http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l>, support desk on MediaWiki.org <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk> and unofficial forums <http://www.mwusers.com/>.
[12:25:36] <Pathoschild>	:)
[12:25:49] <frozeneskimo>	hah
[12:25:57] <frozeneskimo>	nah im just gonna move up to a hosting account with a shell
[12:26:10] <frozeneskimo>	do a recursive 777 chmod there and maybe it will work
[12:26:10] *Pathoschild 	nods.
[12:26:45] <Duesentrieb_>	no it won't
[12:26:50] <Duesentrieb_>	mediawiki will create new dirs
[12:26:58] <Duesentrieb_>	and they will likely have the wrong permission.
[12:27:04] <frozeneskimo>	that sucks
[12:27:07] <Duesentrieb_>	or is it smart and sets the same permissions the parent dir has?
[12:27:13] <frozeneskimo>	not sure
[12:27:14] <Duesentrieb_>	that would actually be reasonable
[12:27:21] <Duesentrieb_>	not either. try it :)
[12:27:36] <Duesentrieb_>	there are also the sticky bits... they do some special magic for dirs. not sure what exactly :)
[12:32:08] <frozeneskimo>	oh well
[12:32:10] <frozeneskimo>	gnight all
[13:42:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make getEditToolbar() in includes/EditPage.php static - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11951 15enhancement; low; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bleher)
[13:45:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FileCache incorrectly caches multipage image pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9558   +need-review +patch (10bleher)
[13:54:22] <Filnik>	Hello
[14:12:27] <sdousley|work>	Hi all, anyone able to explain why mediawiki cannot see files in the require_once() when the leading "./" is on the filename? This is on IIS6.
[14:13:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) DatabasePostgres.php does not quote all schema names - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11952 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (jh)
[14:18:24] <TimStarling>	sdousley|work: what do you mean "can't see"?
[14:18:36] <TimStarling>	does it give a file not found error?
[14:20:12] <sdousley|work>	TimStarling: yes, it says: "Warning: require_once(./includes/WebStart.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in W:\_Websites_host-it\wiki.host-it.co.uk\index.php on line 38"
[14:20:30] <sdousley|work>	if i take out the "./" in the require_once() it then works and errors on the next require_once
[14:22:44] <sdousley|work>	I have looked on the bugtacker, and found a change to make in UtfNormalUtil.php, but that change is already made
[14:26:29] <TimStarling>	in theory the current directory should be set to the directory of the entry script
[14:26:49] <TimStarling>	but maybe there's a configuration setting in IIS to turn that feature off or something
[14:27:09] <TimStarling>	you could put this at the top of all relevant entry points (such as index.php):
[14:27:15] <TimStarling>	chdir(dirname(__FILE__));
[14:27:22] <SlimG>	How do I insert active php code into a mediawiki article?
[14:27:37] <Duesentrieb_>	SlimG: you don't. that would be very dangerous.
[14:27:47] <TimStarling>	find a zero-day arbitrary code execution exploit
[14:27:54] <Duesentrieb_>	:P
[14:28:07] <sdousley|work>	TimStarling: yeh, i had thought about that, but there' no difference i can see betwen the installs of php and IIS on the 2 servers, and one works no problems, the other doesn't!
[14:28:30] <Duesentrieb_>	sdousley|work: so, *something* has to be different.
[14:28:34] <sdousley|work>	It's not how i have copied it between the 2 cos i have copied it to a linux server to test the migration, and it worked no problems (database is on a seperate server)
[14:28:43] <sdousley|work>	Duesentrieb_: that's what i guessed, but it's working out what! 
[14:28:46] <TimStarling>	well, you could work out what's different, or you could try my suggested workaround
[14:28:54] <TimStarling>	just change the current directory on entry
[14:29:09] <sdousley|work>	I'd rather fix it properly than work around, since this problem will surely occur on anything that does that/.
[14:29:49] <TimStarling>	maybe you should try an IIS support channel then
[14:29:51] <sdousley|work>	The problem i think is that php on IIS on the server that doesn't work returns "C:\Windows\System32\inetsrv" from echo getcwd() not the directory the files are listed in.
[14:30:04] <SlimG>	Duesentrieb_: well then, howto dynamically insert the content of a external page into a mediawiki each time that page is loaded?
[14:30:18] <sdousley|work>	and the server it works in, shows the folder the files are in rather than that directory
[14:32:06] <Duesentrieb_>	SlimG: write an extension to do it. or use an existing one, like HTMLets. or use an extension that allows you to insert iframes
[14:33:40] <Duesentrieb_>	SlimG: note that inlining the code of an external page into your wiki is dangerous, if you don't control that external page. any javascript code on that page would be executed in "your" context, allowing cookie theft, etc
[14:34:16] <SlimG>	Duesentrieb_: It's another page on the same server under my control :) no worries
[14:34:31] <SlimG>	Duesentrieb_: thanks for your help, I'll have a look at HTMLets
[14:50:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Server should return http status code 301 on " this page has been moved" pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11946  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:52:32] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Moving pages to their own redirects should be permitted - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11948  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:12:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) creating internationalization i18n file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11953 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ImportFreeImages; (bertrand.grondin)
[15:12:28] <locke_>	How would I make a wiki page of mine, the index.php of my site?
[15:13:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) creating internationalization i18n file - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11953  (10bertrand.grondin)
[15:14:09] <locke_>	when someone goes to www.whatever.com i want it to go to http://wiki.whatever.com/index.php?title=Overview. Is this possible?
[15:30:17] <sdousley|work>	OK, i haev installed completely from scratch having exported all the pages from the wiki, now on a fresh install of mediawiki, i simply get a blank screen
[15:35:35] <khatahn>	hi, is there a way to prevent mediawiki from converting "&amp;" to "&" when displaying on a wiki page? it's a html code snippet, and i tried to put it between <pre> and/or <code> but it doesn't seem to help.
[15:37:44] <Jack_Phoenix>	try <nowiki> tags
[15:39:16] <khatahn>	doesn't seem to work either
[15:40:40] <Wikidudeman_>	I've got a question concerning the way edit conflicts are resolved. 
[15:40:42] <Wikidudeman_>	Is anyone here?
[15:43:53] <sdousley|work>	khatahn: you could try this and it's a bit long: &amp;amp
[15:45:55] <Wikidudeman_>	Does anyone here know if the way edit conflicts are resolved can be changed?
[15:46:38] <Wikidudeman_>	Anyone?
[15:46:44] <PunkRock>	Wikidudeman_: depends
[15:46:56] <Wikidudeman_>	Let me give an example
[15:47:10] <khatahn>	sdousley|work:  well, i got around it with the geshi syntax highlighter addon. but thanks, i'll keep that in mind
[15:47:16] <Wikidudeman_>	If I edit a subsection of an article and someone else edited while I was in edit mode...
[15:47:25] <Wikidudeman_>	Then when it reloads, it reloads the entire article in edit mode.
[15:47:37] <Wikidudeman_>	Not just the single section on which the edit conflict occured.
[15:47:43] <Wikidudeman_>	Know what I mean?
[15:49:33] <PunkRock>	yes.
[15:50:05] <Wikidudeman_>	I'd like it to just load the single subsection which the edit conflict occurred, not the entire page.
[15:50:09] <PunkRock>	Wikidudeman_: but i can't help you.
[15:50:15] <Wikidudeman_>	Who can?
[15:51:53] <JeLuF>	Wikidudeman: That would require a *lot* of intelligence to work properly. E.g. when new sections are inserted, the section numbering will change.
[15:52:45] <JeLuF>	If you volunteer to invest 1-2 months of coding, you could probably implement something smarter. But so far, noone did.
[15:53:21] <Wikidudeman_>	Oh
[15:54:19] <Wikidudeman_>	hmm
[15:54:24] <NotACow>	yeah
[15:54:27] <NotACow>	that is not a simple problem
[15:54:43] <NotACow>	it's probably solveable, but it's not somethign you can just whip together in half an hour
[15:56:29] <NotACow>	i can thnk of some ways to get there part-way but it would be some hefty work
[15:56:40] <NotACow>	and it would likely fail as often as not
[15:56:56] <Wikidudeman_>	It's just very difficult to resolve edit conflicts, especially on large pages.
[15:57:09] <Wikidudeman_>	With a lot of edits occuring.
[15:58:07] <NotACow>	don't edit pages that other people are editing :)
[15:58:32] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: and, yes, it is difficult to resolve edit conflicts.  if it were easy, the software would do it for you :)
[15:58:33] <Wikidudeman_>	Impossible
[15:58:56] <Wikidudeman_>	The software could do it somehow
[15:59:14] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: mediawiki already attempst to resolve the conflict.  if it succeeds, you don't get an edit conflict notice.
[15:59:19] <Spike||N0ne>	hi there. one question. does mediawiki supports in anyway smblinking?
[15:59:21] <NotACow>	you nly get the notice when the automated attempt fails.
[15:59:29] <NotACow>	Spike||N0ne: what is smblinking?
[15:59:38] <Wikidudeman_>	Who is working on it?
[15:59:42] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: you
[15:59:49] <Spike||N0ne>	i want to make a link to stuff which is in a sambashare
[15:59:54] <Wikidudeman_>	I'm not working on it.
[15:59:59] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: then nobody :)
[16:00:14] <Wikidudeman_>	You aid mediawiki is already attempting to do it.
[16:00:17] <NotACow>	Spike||N0ne: there might be aw ay to do that weith an external media repository
[16:00:20] <Wikidudeman_>	said*
[16:00:34] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: mediawiki already has conflict resolution code in it.
[16:00:42] <Wikidudeman_>	But?
[16:00:46] <Spike||N0ne>	NotACow, like webdav or something?
[16:00:48] <NotACow>	Wikidudeman_: it doesn't resolve all cases
[16:01:09] <NotACow>	Spike||N0ne: i'm not terribly familiar with the media repository extensions.  sorry.
[16:01:27] <Spike||N0ne>	NotACow, thx anyway
[16:01:40] <NotACow>	Spike||N0ne: you might chceck the extension list, there might be something already
[16:01:47] <Spike||N0ne>	k
[16:03:48] <CIA-36>	03vasilievvv * r27436 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 5 dirs): * Remove Special:Randomincategory. Domas said that it will work slowly on big categories (like "Living persons").
[16:16:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create new namespace "Ripiano" in Italian Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11937  (10powerpdn)
[16:16:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace "Portale" namespace in Italian Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11938  (10powerpdn)
[16:17:36] <PeterKz>	Hi all! Is there a way to make a browser bookmark to a blank mediawiki page to quickly create a page?
[16:19:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace "Portale" namespace in Italian Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11938  (10powerpdn)
[16:20:48] <Morbus>	g'day. i have a large amount of content that is NOT in mediawiki, and I'd like to get it in via a computerized import, not manual page creation and editing. I can pre-format the import to wiki-syntax before hand. Any pointers? Direct SQL import? XML format and imported via MW itself? I'd be looking at about 100 MBs of data, and a lot of images.
[16:21:29] <jlerner>	Morbus: you can use the bot
[16:21:45] <Morbus>	jlerner: where would I find that?
[16:22:00] <jlerner>	pagefromfile.py 
[16:22:18] <jlerner>	http://pywikipediabot.sourceforge.net/
[16:23:05] <jlerner>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pywikipediabot_general_parameters
[16:23:27] *Morbus 	is reading http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pagefromfile.py
[16:23:29] <jlerner>	actually, here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pagefromfile.py
[16:23:30] <jlerner>	right
[16:23:50] <jlerner>	there may be ways to do the import more quickly
[16:24:30] <Morbus>	interesting.
[16:24:41] <jlerner>	doesn't cover the images though
[16:24:48] <Morbus>	i'm worried about the "out of memory" error if the text contains "several pages".
[16:24:53] <Morbus>	i'd be looking at several (thousand) pages.
[16:25:07] <jlerner>	you can always restart the bot if it crashes, from where it left off
[16:25:21] <jlerner>	it's a little temperamental imho
[16:25:23] <jlerner>	but it works
[16:25:58] <Morbus>	what about Special:Import?
[16:26:25] *Morbus 	reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Import too.
[16:26:30] <jlerner>	i think that's faster, if you can manage to create the file format correctly
[16:28:33] <Morbus>	i grabbed a db export from a wikia site and would mirror that format... but i notice there's an <id> in here. can I only Special:Import once? I'd need to run this [import solution] multiple times and have it append to the database, not overwrite.
[16:29:28] <Morbus>	yeah, that doesn't seem to be a problem.
[16:29:55] <Morbus>	the only problem with Special:Import is php upload file limits. but breaking things up into 2MB chunks seems saner than one-page-per-file, ala pagefromfile.py
[16:30:24] <jlerner>	i've created many pages from a single file processed by pagefromfile.py
[16:30:45] <Morbus>	hrm...
[16:30:46] <Morbus>	"For a large-scale transfer, somebody with sufficient system privileges can move data within the server, which is more practical than sending large XML files from the server to a user's local computer and then back to the server."
[16:30:59] <Morbus>	which is great, but it doesn't say how to then tell MW to use that uploaded file.
[16:31:10] <jlerner>	heh
[16:32:28] <jlerner>	Morbus: maybe http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps#importDump.php
[16:32:47] <Morbus>	yeah, i saw that, but hte import:help page says it hasn't been mtaintained to the newest releases.
[16:33:16] <Morbus>	"but hasn't always remained in working order with recent MediaWiki releases"
[16:33:45] <jlerner>	yeah, that's true of some of the stuff in the maintenance directory
[16:33:47] <jlerner>	it's confusing
[16:34:21] <Morbus>	does pagefromfile.py handle history if you pass it a page that already exists?
[16:34:38] <jlerner>	i don't think it will do anything in that case
[16:34:44] <jlerner>	it'll just move on...
[16:35:11] <jlerner>	you want to import an xml dump with all the revisions?
[16:35:41] <Morbus>	no, not necessarily. it'd be nice to have that feature though.
[16:36:23] <Morbus>	at the very least, i need to run an import script on a regular basis as new data emerges. if that import script /happens/ to overwrite existing things, i /suppose/ that'd be ok, but i'd much rather it be history-friendly, which Special:Import sounds like it is, assuming i pass it modification times.
[16:37:33] <jlerner>	Morbus: maybe import.py via the bot
[16:37:48] <jlerner>	but that's getting beyond my personal experience
[16:38:20] <locke_>	is there a way to add javascript to one particular page in mediawiki? i just want to do some google analytics to one particular page...
[16:38:42] <jlerner>	locke_: there's an extension that does thyat
[16:38:55] <locke_>	really? what extension?
[16:38:58] <jlerner>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics
[16:39:15] <jlerner>	"Analytics is a simple extension which allows you to put a Google Analytics tracker in your MediaWiki articles"
[16:41:48] <locke_>	jlerner: and you just put <analytics uacct="UA-XXXXXX-X" ></analytics> in which ever article you want to track?
[16:41:56] <jlerner>	apparently
[16:42:02] <jlerner>	i haven't used that particular extension
[16:44:27] <Morbus>	hrm. bot framework only supports "monobook" skin? 
[16:44:31] <Morbus>	jlerner: any comments about that?
[16:44:41] <jlerner>	hm
[16:44:50] <jlerner>	i have used it with a custom skin
[16:44:54] <jlerner>	it didn't seem to be a problem
[16:44:58] <jlerner>	where did you see taht?
[16:45:03] <Morbus>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_bot/Getting_started
[16:45:07] <Morbus>	under Configuration.
[16:45:27] <jlerner>	Morbus: should be fine
[16:45:30] <jlerner>	but no promises ;-)
[16:45:42] <Morbus>	jlerner: i see you run OS X. bot runs fine on OS X? 
[16:45:59] <Morbus>	oh, hey, incidentally, here's a silly question.
[16:46:07] <Morbus>	does the bot have to run on the same host as the mediawiki install?
[16:46:07] <jlerner>	i usually run it via a linux shell
[16:46:18] <jlerner>	same host, no
[16:46:26] <jlerner>	it wouldn't be very useful if it had to
[16:46:27] <jlerner>	;-)
[16:46:29] <Morbus>	yeah.
[16:46:35] <Morbus>	but i was looking at the configuration...
[16:46:35] <jlerner>	first thing you do with the bot is login
[16:46:40] <jlerner>	it's just a web client
[16:46:58] <Morbus>	and haven't seen any info on servername or botname/password, etc.
[16:47:00] <jlerner>	login as mediawiki user Morbus.bot, or whatever
[16:47:16] <Morbus>	oh, i see, i have to make a family thingy?
[16:47:16] <Morbus>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pywikipedia_bot_on_non-Wikimedia_projects
[16:47:22] <jlerner>	y
[16:47:27] <Morbus>	gotcha
[16:47:34] <jlerner>	the bot should run file on OS X, why not
[16:47:36] <jlerner>	;-)
[16:47:44] <jlerner>	i'm not a python expert tho!
[16:47:55] <Morbus>	well, i've never had any problems running python scripts or anything on os x.
[16:47:56] <jlerner>	s/file/fine/
[16:48:03] <Morbus>	but it depends how crazily you get with eggs and extensions and what have you.
[16:48:15] <jlerner>	hear that
[16:52:09] <Morbus>	looks like i can use imageharvest.py for image uploading.
[16:52:25] <Morbus>	i'll fiddle with the bot thingy for a bit.
[16:52:46] <jlerner>	very good
[16:53:34] <Morbus>	has there been any new developments in the use of lists? a stronger/prettier inline WhatLinksHere?
[16:54:21] <Morbus>	32 y pages link to IllustratorA. At the bottom of IllustratorA, there's a purdy list of those y pages?
[16:54:41] <Morbus>	i know i can do it with crazy things like SemanticMW (which is a real possibility i'm exploring, as it's pretty nice, search-wise).
[16:54:58] <Morbus>	but i was hoping for something more built-in.
[16:55:14] <jlerner>	not sure ;-)
[17:02:00] <Morbus>	hrm. http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List seems well respected, and there's a ticket to get it into core.
[17:05:28] <Poundo>	installed mediawiki on iis 6 but iis complains i have a permission problem. IIS configuration shows .php mapped to D:\PHP\php-cgi.exe
[17:12:45] <Sundance_Raphael>	Bs wechsel
[17:13:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Moving pages to their own redirects should be permitted - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11948  (10N/A)
[17:17:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Disable uploads on Swedish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11954 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (GustafGustafsson)
[17:18:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Disable uploads on Swedish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11954   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[17:20:51] <Poundo>	has anyone installed mediawiki under IIS 6
[17:21:45] <blue_asterisk>	Poundo: had one installed but it was flaky
[17:22:03] <blue_asterisk>	Poundo: better off using another server/os
[17:24:01] <Poundo>	blue_asterisk: Thanks but I don't have a choice the client is a public agency (non-profit) and have already bought Windows servers etc.
[17:24:47] <blue_asterisk>	Poundo: how big do you expect the wiki to be a year from now?
[17:26:55] <wAndyw>	is it possible to mirror a mediawiki(not wikipedia.org...) with wget?
[17:27:22] <blue_asterisk>	Poundo: iis will probably work ok though I'd expect most testing, development, and support exclude iis
[17:28:04] <blue_asterisk>	wAndyw: it would just be static files
[17:28:37] <wAndyw>	blue_asterisk: Yes, this is my intention
[17:28:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New logo for wikipedia aymara - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11955 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (hugo_a_saavedra)
[17:28:58] <wAndyw>	blue_asterisk: of course with links for offline reading
[17:29:25] <Poundo>	blue_asterisk: I doubt if it will be very large. Don't know how to measure
[17:30:34] <blue_asterisk>	wAndyw: of course its possible, it's a matter of how much effort you want to put into it ;)
[17:30:57] <wAndyw>	blue_asterisk: not more than one line in bash ;-)
[17:32:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for wikipedia aymara - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11955   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[17:33:17] <blue_asterisk>	wAndyw: you'll have issues such as search and formatting
[17:33:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for wikipedia aymara - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11955  (10raimond.spekking)
[17:40:09] <wAndyw>	blue_asterisk: okay, wget works fine
[17:41:29] <blue_asterisk>	hmm, I'll have to remember to block wget and curl from my wiki
[17:43:47] <khatahn>	wget --user-agent=...
[17:44:31] <blue_asterisk>	khatahn: I know you can spoof it, but there are other ways to block
[17:45:23] <LiquidIceUK>	can anyone help me with setting up taxobox when i add the code it just spills out the complete html
[17:45:42] <khatahn>	blue_asterisk: hehe, good for you :)
[18:44:22] <rayde>	can an admin in mediawiki create new users, or must users create their own accounts?
[18:45:18] <jlerner>	yes, admin can do that
[18:45:21] <rayde>	eg. if i have $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; can i manually add a user?
[18:45:49] <rayde>	is it done through sql commands, or is there a page somewhere i've missed
[18:45:55] <jlerner>	if the permission is set for the user group you want to have that right
[18:46:26] <jlerner>	visit something like ... Special:Userlogin&type=signup
[18:46:54] <jlerner>	were there other changes to $wgGroupPermissions?
[18:47:35] <rayde>	well, i've turned off anon edit/read/createaccount, and explicitly enabled those on 'user'
[18:47:46] <jlerner>	should be fine then
[18:48:09] <rayde>	ok thanks, i'll take a look there 
[19:43:04] <RPGMakerVX>	MediaWiki v1.6.10: Some pages are locked from the primary sysop when no permissions were set that coudl cause it
[19:43:43] <XDuxaX>	is there a module or someting to allow to upload more than 1 file at a time?
[19:44:18] <RPGMakerVX>	*could
[19:45:37] <RPGMakerVX>	is there a way to entirely disable the "talk" tab?
[19:45:54] <Duesentrieb_>	XDuxaX: not really, because http is not good for mass uploads. you could try to adapt commonist to work with your site.
[19:46:11] <RPGMakerVX>	or at the very least have default text?
[19:46:19] <Duesentrieb_>	RPGMakerVX: you can hide the tab, but the talk pages are still there
[19:47:12] <Duesentrieb_>	RPGMakerVX: about the permission problem... could you be a bit more precise? which pages? locked in what way? is some message/error shown? what does "no permissions set" mean?
[19:48:15] <RPGMakerVX>	Pages like "Project:Protected page" and "MediaWiki:Noarticletext"
[19:48:29] <RPGMakerVX>	nothing is set in LocalSettings.php that could explain this.
[19:48:57] <Duesentrieb_>	MediaWiki:Noarticletext would be editablöe by sysops only per default.
[19:49:03] <Duesentrieb_>	everything in the MediaWiki namespace is
[19:49:13] <RPGMakerVX>	apparantly not :/
[19:50:02] <Duesentrieb_>	RPGMakerVX: are you sure you really have sysop permissions?
[19:50:10] <RPGMakerVX>	absolutely
[19:50:22] <Duesentrieb_>	RPGMakerVX: and do you do *anything* with wgGroupPermissions in you LocalSettings.php?
[19:50:28] <Duesentrieb_>	do you have any extensions active?
[19:50:38] <Duesentrieb_>	oh, 1.6... ugh
[19:50:44] <RPGMakerVX>	Yes, but none of it touched sysop
[19:50:51] <RPGMakerVX>	as for extensions
[19:50:53] <RPGMakerVX>	no
[19:50:55] <Duesentrieb_>	not even sure if it used wgGroupPermissions
[19:51:00] <RPGMakerVX>	It does
[19:51:25] <RPGMakerVX>	1.6.10 had to be used because php5 was not available
[19:51:35] <Duesentrieb_>	RPGMakerVX: can you post you LocalSettings.php to http://rafb.net/paste/ (with passwords removed)?
[19:51:51] <Duesentrieb_>	php4 sucks... mediawiki 1.6  is old...
[19:52:15] <RPGMakerVX>	as opposed to apparantly an "unstable" PHP5?
[19:52:20] <Jack_Phoenix>	eww php4
[19:53:08] <RPGMakerVX>	damn
[19:53:10] <RPGMakerVX>	g2g
[19:54:53] <Nikerabbit>	Jack_Phoenix: it doesn't help to eww every time someone mentions something you don't like
[19:57:56] <SiliconG>	I cant figure out how to get text blocks into the light blue boxes that have a border
[19:58:57] <Duesentrieb_>	SiliconG: us a <div>. consult your favorite html/css tutorial.
[19:59:22] <SiliconG>	ok so that is how I have to do it - there is no automatic formatting
[19:59:47] <Duesentrieb_>	automatic? no. you have to tell it what you want...
[20:00:07] <Duesentrieb_>	you can make a template, so you can later use it like {{box|some text}}
[20:00:21] <Duesentrieb_>	!templates
[20:00:21] <mwbot>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
[20:04:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable Gadgets extension in de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11956 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (arnomane)
[20:06:03] <SiliconG>	Duesentrieb_: is there not something that will do this - I have to style it my selft?
[20:06:32] <Duesentrieb_>	how would "something" know what style you want?
[20:06:45] <Duesentrieb_>	do it yourself, or copy some box you like
[20:08:28] <SiliconG>	the default blue box that mediawiki uses I just want to put text in just like they do on the site the code block
[20:09:00] <greudin>	bonsoir
[20:10:33] <SiliconG>	any idea's I am a newbie and I just want a turn key kind of solution
[20:12:18] <Duesentrieb_>	SiliconG: i have no idea what "the default blue box" is. you mean the infoboxes? they tend to be pretty complex. and they also tend to be done in dofferent ways and styles.
[20:12:47] <Duesentrieb_>	.oO(maybe i should host a mediawiki template repository, slap on google ads, and get rich)
[20:19:58] <SiliconG>	I think that would be a good idea - in the mean time - can you look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
[20:20:20] <SiliconG>	if you look down the page you will see the blue boxes on the right - that is what I am talking about
[20:21:06] <Duesentrieb_>	i see several box - a bighish blue one too, but not "down" the page...
[20:22:14] <SiliconG>	ok well the blue boxes that have 
[20:22:50] <Duesentrieb_>	SiliconGis: you'll have to learn the syntax anyway to fill it with the stuff you want.
[20:23:03] <Duesentrieb_>	so go ahead and make a floating blu box with <div> and css
[20:23:39] <SiliconG>	ok so I have a par that I want to put in a box - what do I do?
[20:24:12] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: Ping
[20:24:23] <AaronSchulz>	Pong
[20:25:22] <SiliconG>	so is there a simple way to format text in a box like the ones on that page?
[20:27:53] <^demon>	AarpmSchulz: I'm using ConfirmAccount, and my users are getting an "invalid e-mail confirm" type error when clicking on the confirm e-mail links. Any clue as to why?
[20:28:35] <AaronSchulz>	is it the latest SVN version?
[20:28:39] <^demon>	Yep.
[20:28:41] <poguy>	how come when I login the username is alway CAPITALIZED?? how can I uncapitalized it? thank you all;)
[20:28:44] <^demon>	As of like 2-3 days ago.
[20:29:14] <AaronSchulz>	what version of MW?
[20:29:18] <^demon>	1.11
[20:29:24] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, worksforme
[20:29:32] <AaronSchulz>	and CZ ;)
[20:29:56] <^demon>	Hmmm, let me check it out again. I've done 1 or 2 changes, those might have inadvertently broken it.
[20:33:17] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: Appears to be working again, I guess I broke it myself...didn't realize it.
[20:34:56] <AaronSchulz>	is this wiki public?
[20:36:20] <^demon>	Yep.
[20:36:39] <^demon>	http://wiki.veropedia.com
[20:37:32] <pscheie>	when using mysql as the db, should full text search work out of the box?
[20:37:42] <Duesentrieb_>	pscheie: yes.
[20:37:43] <pscheie>	I'm using version 1.11.0
[20:37:55] <pscheie>	hmm
[20:38:00] <Duesentrieb_>	pscheie: though with the restrictions that mysql's fulltext engine imposes
[20:38:11] <Duesentrieb_>	#most proiminently, search terms have to be at least 4 characters long
[20:38:22] <Duesentrieb_>	and can't be numbers
[20:38:23] <Duesentrieb_>	etc
[20:38:34] <pscheie>	ah Duesentrieb_ you hit the nail on the head for me!
[20:38:43] <Duesentrieb_>	\o/
[20:38:50] <pscheie>	I created a document on ssh, then searched for it, couldn't find it!
[20:39:09] <pscheie>	so I made another doc, this time on VPN, searched for that, failed again!
[20:39:37] <pscheie>	Can I shorten the minimum length of the search string/indexing?
[20:39:41] <Duesentrieb_>	look at myslq's manual page on fulltext indexes
[20:40:07] <domas>	mmm
[20:40:15] <domas>	index.php in veropedia's urls
[20:40:16] <domas>	lame
[20:40:30] <domas>	$wgLogo :)
[20:40:31] <domas>	ergh
[20:40:51] <pscheie>	just tried searching for a 4 character string, worked just fine
[20:40:53] <^demon>	domas: I'm not *done* setting it up yet.
[20:41:05] <^demon>	:-P
[20:42:48] <pscheie>	Duesentrieb_: thanks
[20:45:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use transclusions to count articles as well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11868  (10fearow00)
[20:47:58] <jtowe>	I have 2 wikis installed, both with different database prefixs. Does anyone know of an easy way to make them read the same users table?
[20:51:50] <ribnitz>	heyas
[20:52:13] <ribnitz>	does wikiscript take {{ or {{{ for params?
[20:52:14] <Berto_d_Sera>	hi all :)
[20:52:30] <Berto_d_Sera>	LeonWP: hi! are you here?
[20:55:18] <el_sjaako>	ribnitz: I think {{{
[20:55:23] <poguy>	how come when I login the username is alway CAPITALIZED?? how can I uncapitalized it? thank you all;)
[20:55:55] <el_sjaako>	poguy: are you sure it's not capatalised in the database?
[20:56:08] <ribnitz>	el_sjaako: are you good at it?- Can you fix taxobox to take a default color (lightgreen) if its absent?
[20:56:43] <poguy>	why is it capatalised in db?
[20:57:03] <poguy>	when I create it, the name is all lower case
[20:57:15] <poguy>	yes, it is cap in db
[20:57:19] <poguy>	I wonder why
[20:57:29] <el_sjaako>	ribnitz: No, not really. But the help article about parametrs was pretty decent, I believe
[20:57:55] <ribnitz>	el_sjaako: do you have a link?
[20:58:31] <poguy>	hello, el
[21:00:14] <el_sjaako>	ribnitz: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template
[21:00:21] <el_sjaako>	its long, but should work
[21:00:28] <el_sjaako>	if it can be done...
[21:00:51] <el_sjaako>	poguy: If you entered them lowercase, I dont know why they are all caps
[21:01:20] <Pathoschild>	MediaWiki makes the first letter of user names uppercase by default.
[21:01:38] <poguy>	can I disable that, Pathoschild?
[21:01:59] <Pathoschild>	I don't think so; let me look around.
[21:03:27] <poguy>	nevermind Pathoschild, I can override getCanonicalName($username), thx a bunch!!
[21:04:08] <Pathoschild>	Welcome.
[21:10:55] <Berto_d_Sera>	All: did anyone see LeonWP 'round here?
[21:46:41] <Poundo>	my phpinfo shows a mysql section but mediawiki at /config/indes.php that "PHP 5.2.5 installed Could not find a suitable database driver!" any ideas
[21:50:25] <CIA-36>	03sanbeg * r27437 10/trunk/extensions/AssertEdit/AssertEdit.php: Allow both positive & negative assertions to be used together; result is boolean and
[22:18:15] <kju>	hi! i'm admin on german wikinews and i think i stumbled accross a bug in mediawiki regarding the handling of mwCustomEditButtons
[22:18:20] <CIA-36>	03midom * r27438 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: 8x faster ucfirst() (function called >100 times even on simple pageviews :)
[22:20:14] <dbasch>	Hi all
[22:20:29] <dbasch>	How do I delete a category? I can't find anything via google.
[22:21:02] <kju>	dbasch: the same way as you delete a page
[22:21:12] <dbasch>	really?
[22:21:14] <kju>	just open the category-page and press delete
[22:21:18] <dbasch>	ok ill go try that
[22:22:28] <dbasch>	I must not be very sharp because there is no delete link in the category 
[22:23:46] <dbasch>	anybody?
[22:23:55] <MZMcBride>	it's a tab in monobook
[22:23:58] <MZMcBride>	are you logged in?
[22:24:03] <MZMcBride>	as a sysop or higher?
[22:24:26] <dbasch>	ahh that could be why
[22:24:33] <dbasch>	I will login with higher credentials
[22:24:34] <dbasch>	thx
[22:27:15] <dbasch>	greate that worked
[22:27:20] <dbasch>	thanks everyone
[22:27:22] <dbasch>	cya
[22:28:07] <kju>	hmm, i'm about to file a bug regarding my mwCustomEditButtons bug findings, but i'm not sure what to choose in the report for "component". any hints?
[22:30:03] <MZMcBride>	kju: General/unknown ?
[22:30:18] <MZMcBride>	or Page editing?
[22:30:26] <kju>	MZMcBride: i guess page editing
[22:30:36] <MZMcBride>	if you screw up, someone will fix it; no big deal
[22:34:47] <domas>	\o/
[22:34:56] <CIA-36>	03midom * r27439 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: 6x optimized lcfirst() \o/ though it would be far better not to call these functions too much at all :)
[22:35:58] <AaronSchulz>	typical domas
[22:36:20] <domas>	what about me?
[22:36:59] <domas>	lcfirst implementation <3
[22:37:02] <AaronSchulz>	always trying to make the wiki go faster
[22:37:14] <AaronSchulz>	go and commit some big slow features for once!
[22:37:59] <CIA-36>	03siebrand * r27440 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (9 files): 
[22:37:59] <CIA-36>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:37:59] <CIA-36>	* am, an, ca, cs, csb, dsb, es, ext, fi
[22:38:46] <domas>	its madness
[22:39:56] <domas>	our case sensitivity, that is
[22:40:10] <domas>	same strings get uppercased, lowercased, ucfirst, lcfirst
[22:40:20] <domas>	cause different places in code demand different stuff.
[22:40:22] <AaronSchulz>	what is ucfirst ect?
[22:40:59] <domas>	"domas" => "Domas"
[22:41:31] <AaronSchulz>	cute
[22:42:20] <AaronSchulz>	<br />
[22:42:21] <AaronSchulz>	<b>Notice</b>:  Uninitialized string offset:  0 in <b>C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\languages\Language.php</b> on line <b>934</b><br />
[22:42:23] <AaronSchulz>	<br />
[22:42:24] <AaronSchulz>	<b>Notice</b>:  Uninitialized string offset:  0 in <b>C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\languages\Language.php</b> on line <b>934</b><br />
[22:43:44] <domas>	argh.
[22:43:58] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, it stopped showing
[22:44:09] <domas>	empty strings
[22:44:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) mwCustomEditButtons does not handle newlines in tagClose correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11957 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mediawiki-bugreports)
[22:44:50] <tlhiv_laptop>	hi folks ... could someone help me figure out what's going on with this --> http://mathonweb.org/wiki/
[22:45:16] <tlhiv_laptop>	i have another wiki running on the server and it runs fine
[22:46:00] <domas>	AaronSchulz: here, your fix :)
[22:46:01] <CIA-36>	03midom * r27441 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: do nothing for empty strings... how can you upper-case the void?
[22:47:32] <CIA-36>	03siebrand * r27442 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (11 files): 
[22:47:32] <CIA-36>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:47:32] <CIA-36>	* fiu-vro, fo, is, ja, kaa, kab, mk, nds, nl, oc, qu
[22:48:14] <domas>	argh, will just use empty()
[22:50:18] <CIA-36>	03midom * r27443 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: empty() is faster! :)
[22:50:20] <domas>	\o/
[22:51:04] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: "Access denied for user 'wikiuser'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
[22:51:46] <tlhiv_laptop>	yes
[22:52:03] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: so, the user is wrong, the host is wrong, or the password is wrong.
[22:52:15] <tlhiv_laptop>	i haven't changed anything
[22:52:20] <tlhiv_laptop>	and it's been running
[22:52:32] <tlhiv_laptop>	easiest way to troubleshoot this?
[22:53:31] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: try to log into mysql from the same machine manually, using the same login info
[22:54:08] <domas>	woooo, I shaved 30% off wfMsg
[22:54:11] <tlhiv_laptop>	unfortunately, i'm not a mysql expert
[22:54:18] <tlhiv_laptop>	so i don't really know how to log in manually and do things
[22:55:15] <tlhiv_laptop>	_Duesentrieb_: i'm logged in ... how can i access the list of databases?
[22:55:55] <domas>	how did this slip in?: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php?r1=26720&r2=27184
[22:56:30] <CIA-36>	03siebrand * r27444 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 2 dirs): 
[22:56:30] <CIA-36>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:56:30] <CIA-36>	* sah, sc, sk, stq, su, tl, tyv, wuu (new), zh-hans
[22:56:47] <domas>	any localization gurus feeling like fixing that iranian cruft?
[22:57:51] <AaronSchulz>	wtf
[22:59:14] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: "show databases;"
[22:59:32] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: also do "show grants for 'wikiuser'@'localhost';"
[22:59:47] <tlhiv_laptop>	ok ... thanx a ton
[22:59:51] <tlhiv_laptop>	i seem to have it working now
[23:00:04] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: what was the problem, then?
[23:00:41] <_Duesentrieb_>	ah, i remember... trying to access a non-existing db results in "access denied", right?
[23:01:00] <tlhiv_laptop>	when i created another wiki about a week ago, i must have changed the password of wikiuser
[23:01:30] <_Duesentrieb_>	hehe
[23:01:35] <tlhiv_laptop>	so i just updated this wiki with that new password
[23:01:46] <tlhiv_laptop>	ideally i would like to use different users for each wiki
[23:01:51] <tlhiv_laptop>	not sure how to do that now though
[23:02:07] <_Duesentrieb_>	tlhiv_laptop: this is why "but I havn't don anything" is always suspicious :P
[23:02:13] <tlhiv_laptop>	;)
[23:02:14] <tlhiv_laptop>	right
[23:02:30] <tlhiv_laptop>	well in this case ... i meant ... "i haven't done anything 'to this wiki'"
[23:02:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update for Swedish localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11945  +comment (10lejonel)
[23:04:24] <tlhiv_laptop>	well thanx alot ... company is coming over ... gotta run ... wife is nagging ;)
[23:05:58] <domas>	argh
[23:06:00] <domas>	did I just kill svn?
[23:07:33] <domas>	meh, simple revert on few files takes ages
[23:09:40] <CIA-36>	03siebrand * r27445 10/trunk/extensions/ (9 files in 8 dirs): 
[23:09:40] <CIA-36>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[23:09:40] <CIA-36>	* Fixes and additions to 8 extensions for ar, fi, gl, mk, nl, rmy
[23:11:12] <domas>	is svn dead for everyone
[23:11:13] <domas>	or just me?
[23:11:47] <BrokenArrow>	anon and web access seem ok
[23:11:59] <domas>	takes ages to get diffs
[23:15:24] *siebrand 	is done for today.
[23:18:05] <domas>	oh, I have root on the server
[23:20:44] <domas>	shit, I can't even revert properly
[23:21:00] <siebrand>	any word on possible Wikimedia MediaWiki version updates yet?
[23:23:49] <domas>	can anyone revert 27184 for me?
[23:23:52] <domas>	:)
[23:32:32] <CIA-36>	03midom * r27446 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): I fail to see the need of Iranian invasion to very core of code. needs to be more modular, I suppose.
[23:36:03] <ralfWORK>	silly question, but how can I lock all pages of a wiki?
[23:38:33] <domas>	set $wgReadonly
[23:38:47] <ralfWORK>	oh ok
[23:43:18] <ralfWORK>	hrm. I set it but it's still allowing anonymous edits
[23:43:57] <MZMcBride>	ralfWORK: i don't believe that's possible
[23:44:19] <ralfWORK>	I am trying to eliminate anon. edits
[23:44:22] <ralfWORK>	globally
[23:44:58] <MZMcBride>	!access
[23:44:58] <mwbot>	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[23:45:04] <ralfWORK>	ok ty
[23:45:07] <MZMcBride>	yep
[23:45:12] <Toad>	hey all. is there a way to get mediawiki to dump an XML version of a page?
[23:45:24] <Toad>	I'm trying to parse the raw wiki format and finding it's a big bitch
[23:46:15] <MZMcBride>	use the api, i believe
[23:46:18] <MZMcBride>	or action=raw
[23:46:24] <Toad>	action=raw gives the raw wiki format
[23:46:50] <MZMcBride>	special:export
[23:49:35] <Toad>	that just gives the raw inside an XML tag
[23:49:56] <MZMcBride>	did you look at the api?
[23:49:57] <LiquidIceUK>	can anyone help me with setting up taxobox will pay $30
[23:50:09] <MZMcBride>	LiquidIceUK: what's your problem?
[23:50:20] <LiquidIceUK>	its just spilling out code not a box
[23:50:26] <MZMcBride>	enable tidy
[23:50:28] <MZMcBride>	!tidy
[23:50:28] <mwbot>	For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[23:50:43] <MZMcBride>	make sure you have the appropriate CSS ([[MediaWiki:Common.css]])
[23:50:59] <LiquidIceUK>	thnx ill take a look
[23:53:26] <blue_asterisk>	svn sucks
[23:55:29] <LiquidIceUK>	bah got me stuck
[23:55:38] <MZMcBride>	huh?