[00:26:39] I'm creating a wiki for my extended family to upload biographies and memories. To keep it easy to use, I want to allow anonymous edits. However, to keep it in good order, I want to be notified of all changes to the wiki, so I can clean up typos, remove spam/defacing, and to update index pages. Does mediawiki have a simple way to notify a single user or group on every modification? [00:39:36] blackchr: use the RSS feed of recent changes [00:41:51] chmod007, is that an extension, or part of the base package? [00:42:49] it’s standard [00:42:58] excellent, thanks [00:50:09] can I edit Template:Main on en.wiki (to add a css class name) without the world exploding? [00:53:18] probably, but don't quote me on that [00:53:31] hehe, ok. [00:53:54] I should probably discuss it on the talk page anyway. [00:53:59] 03rainman * r27647 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (19 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:53:59] Highlight: [00:53:59] * algorithm for extending and aligning different snippets [00:53:59] * return more snippets only if they contain new words [00:53:59] * minor stuff (: for sections, right snippet sequence...) [00:54:01] Tokenizer work: [00:54:03] * nested links (in image captions) [01:04:49] anyone know why recaptcha's not working on 1.11, it says that my api key wasn't made for that domain, but it's the same domain, I just upgraded [01:23:02] 03(NEW) "Userspace Edited" Banner - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12040 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (usb7777) [01:23:51] ugg .. what bug is that a dupe of? [01:27:49] 14(DUP) Show message on user page of blocked users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2044 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [01:27:50] 03(mod) Show "You have new messages on your user or user_talk page" -- i .e. both pages are notified - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1876 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [01:28:27] 04(REOPENED) Show message on user page of blocked users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2044 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [01:29:15] 14(DUP) "Userspace Edited" Banner - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12040 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [01:29:17] 03(mod) Show "You have new messages on your user or user_talk page" -- i .e. both pages are notified - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1876 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [01:29:39] *amidaniel sighs [02:05:11] where can i find docs or help for {{DEFAULTSORT:}} [02:10:07] uberfuzzy: what kind of help? [02:16:42] what does it do? how to use it, what args does it take? [02:17:51] !magicwords | uberfuzzy [02:17:51] uberfuzzy : For more information about magic words, see . [02:17:54] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DEFAULTSORT#Parser_functions [02:20:18] ah, so it goes on the page, not in the category [02:20:44] its just a way to set the sortkey on all category links on the page then? [02:21:49] yeah, it reduces redundancy per page [02:22:16] ok, thats going to make a couple templates alot shorter [02:22:47] does the sorting use the whole key or just the first letter? [02:22:59] it should be noted that when using it with templates, if a page already contains a {{DEFAULTSORT}}, there's an order of precedence [02:23:08] whole key [02:23:21] ok, that explains another problem [03:05:36] on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Parser_functions it talks about DISPLAYTITLE, is this something thats build in the stock code, or something added, or something that must be enabled? [03:07:45] if it's on that page, it's part of core, i believe [03:07:47] *MZMcBride looks [03:08:19] yeah [03:08:53] there's an option for it, $wgAllowDisplayTitle, but it's enabled by default [03:09:20] it should show up on Special:Version under parser hooks if its enabled right? [03:09:44] not if it's part of core [03:10:41] well, i see it on the version page on meta [03:11:07] sorry, i thought you mean the Hooks section; yeah it should be listed under parser hooks [03:23:32] I'm trying to install MediaWiki. But for some reason when I go to install it tries to switch over to an SSL connection which I don't want it to. [03:23:41] Any way to just install it without using any SSL? [03:25:12] install or download? [03:25:24] install [03:25:38] It tries to go to SSL when I go to the /config dirrectory. [03:26:06] i.e., when you navigate to http://mydomain.com/wiki/config it takes you to https://mydomain.com/wiki/config ? [03:26:35] It actually displays a warning that the certificate could not be verified. [03:26:48] And if I click continue, it redirects me to the SSL site on that IP. [03:26:59] Because from what I understand, for SSL, you need a dedicated IP. [03:27:32] The SSL site being a totally random site on the server and not the config page. [03:27:56] Okay, well, this sounds you like you have some fun apache rewrites going on. [03:28:04] At first, I thought my browser was acting up, but I've even tried different browsers. I also chmoded the dirrectory to 777. [03:28:08] Do you have a .htaccess in your public_html above wiki anywhere? [03:28:22] Nope. [03:28:36] Do you have access to your httpd.conf? [03:28:41] yes [03:28:49] It's my own server. [03:29:23] Okay, have you added any rewrite rules? [03:29:31] Heck no. [03:29:43] If I do anything, I do it on a .htaccess, no need to summon the actual config file. [03:29:52] This is very strange. First time this is happened. [03:30:01] And I've installed tons of PHP scripts on this thing too. [03:30:03] Do you have a URL I can look at? [03:30:14] Is PM fine? I don't want it logged. [03:30:19] Pauliukas: Sure thing [03:30:32] (And actually, the Apache folks strongly recommend adding directives to your httpd.conf, rather than using .htaccess :P) [03:30:47] For performance sakes, I know. [03:30:54] But I don't run anything hardcore. [03:31:12] Check PM [03:31:15] Hmm .. yeah, there's something weird going on there [03:31:17] Got it [03:32:26] What are you using to configure your dns? [03:32:39] Meaning... [03:33:09] Are you using DirectAdmin to create subdomains? [03:33:09] 03yaron * r27649 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageEn.php: Slight overhaul, added values for 'create category' and 'alternate forms' [03:33:11] Hmm. Alright. Guess what. [03:33:16] amidaniel: Yes. [03:33:30] I renamed config to another name, and it seems to load. [03:33:46] Would you think that that could work? Or does that folder need to be accessed for admin purposes? [03:34:01] I would rename it back to config later. [03:34:01] No, that shouldn't be a problem [03:34:10] Will need to be wrteable though [03:34:15] Yeah, gotcha. [03:34:21] This is still weird. [03:34:35] Possibly something that DirectAdmin is doing -- whenever it sees /config as the URL it takes you to the directadmin login [03:34:52] Try [03:34:53] But I'm quite sure that I've accessed /config pages in the past. [03:35:04] amidaniel: I asked you not to post a URL publicly. [03:35:18] Oh shit, sorry :( [03:35:34] It's not mine anyways. I'm rescuing a friend off of 1and1. [03:36:01] He'd be thrilled for more traffic :-P [03:36:13] 03yaron * r27651 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateCategory.php: New special page for creating an SF-enabled category [03:36:50] Well, removed from the logs anyway :) [03:37:08] Really am sorry about that .. I'm a bit thickheaded at times ... [03:37:17] Heh. [03:37:26] But hey, I learned something today. [03:37:46] It's doing that for all my domains on the server. Had no idae. [03:37:58] I'm guessing no script in the past used /config. [03:38:34] Seems quite strange for a controlpanel to hijack your urls like that though .. surely there's a configuration setting to disable that [03:38:44] Not in the panel itself, at least. [03:39:08] DirectAdmin is better than all these others panels out there, but nowhere from being perfect. [03:39:10] Hmm ... I'm not familiar with it at all, so I'm afraid I can't be of any help [03:39:20] It's okay. I'll figure it out myself. [03:39:40] I just originally thought that maybe it was a feature of MediaWiki to only allow configs via SSL. [03:40:01] Even though man-in-the-middle attacks aren't exactly common these days. [03:41:02] Is GNU diff required for Mediawiki? [03:41:11] Yessir [03:41:14] It's setup is complaining about not being able to find it. But what if I don't... [03:41:17] Ah crap. [03:41:24] What does it do? :-P [03:41:29] diff3, in particular, I believe [03:41:36] Pauliukas: Compares two files to each other [03:41:38] Right. [03:41:41] Oh, I see. [03:41:52] Guess I'll need to check the docs. [03:41:55] 03yaron * r27653 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_AddData.php: [03:41:55] Added handling for alternate forms option, done through new 'alt_form' [03:41:55] query variable [03:42:08] [03:42:13] Thank you. [03:42:16] 03yaron * r27654 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateForm.php: List of possible templates now excludes those that are only redirects [03:42:20] np [03:42:47] I was expecting installation instructions, though. [03:42:57] !install [03:42:57] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [03:43:03] Thar you go :) [03:43:22] Oh, you mean for diff? [03:43:28] What OS are you on? [03:43:35] CentOS 4 Linux [03:43:41] 03yaron * r27655 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateProperty.php: Some 'sf_createproperty' variables are now just 'sf_property', for consistency [03:44:19] Oh. So I guess diff comes with GNU. [03:44:26] I think it's an opsbasedir problem. [03:44:27] Pauliukas: sudo yum install diff3 should do it [03:44:35] At least, I believe centos uses yum ... [03:44:45] Yes it does. [03:48:10] 03yaron * r27656 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: New 'CreateCategory' page, 'Has default form' is now a "special property" in language files, added handling for 'Has alternate form', new sffGetAllForms() function [03:48:41] 03yaron * r27657 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version - 0.7.7 [03:48:50] Great. It's installed. [03:49:20] 03(NEW) No secure proxy for the Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12041 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (rememberthedot) [03:52:16] 14(INVALID) No secure proxy for the Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12041 +comment (10brion) [03:59:04] 03(mod) No secure proxy for the Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12041 (10N/A) [06:30:26] *amidaniel pets mwbot [06:30:45] !mwbot [06:30:45] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [06:31:01] Alrighty, life is good [06:36:05] BibTeX: i can't reproduce your issue [06:36:35] Nor can I ... faulty install or odd settings of some kind [06:36:57] I'd suggest checking it out from svn again and trying again [06:40:11] 14(INVALID) Give rollback to ClueBot on enwp. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12015 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [06:40:18] 03(NEW) Set logo for Bengali Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12042 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bellayet) [06:41:51] 03(mod) Set logo for Bengali Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12042 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [06:42:04] Why hello, wikibugs, where ya been hidin? [06:42:35] hey [06:42:45] amidaniel: thank you for your time [06:42:57] I simply got it from SVN [06:43:18] i uploaded it [07:11:53] 03werdna * r27658 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * Marking edits as bot edits with Special:Contributions?bot=1 now requires the markbotedit permission, rather than the rollback permission previously used. This permission is assigned by default to the sysop group. [07:16:04] At some point the 'watch' tab became AJAXified, which is great. [07:16:26] However, what should I do if I want to have a watch/unwatch button somewhere else on the page, besides on the tabs? [07:16:38] submitting to action=watch no longer appears to work. [07:22:49] 03david * r27659 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LqtBaseView.php lqt.css): Thread-level commands beside header. Not yet complete, though. [07:25:17] 03siebrand * r27660 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesAn.php MessagesStq.php MessagesWuu.php): [07:25:17] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [07:25:17] * an, stq, wuu [07:29:25] 03rotem * r27661 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [07:42:46] 03siebrand * r27662 10/trunk/extensions/ (20 files in 20 dirs): [07:42:46] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [07:42:46] * Fixes and additions to 20 extensions for ar, eu, fo, hsb, kaa, nl, ss [07:47:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI [07:52:12] 03(FIXED) Email address confirmation email, missing line breaks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6336 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [07:59:07] davidmccabe: Meh, not exactly a "silver bullet" argument, but it works :) [07:59:18] well with that ending how could I not paste it? :) [07:59:49] hehe :) [08:35:13] 03werdna * r27663 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [08:35:13] * Ensure that rate-limiting is applied to rollbacks. [08:35:13] * Make a better rate-limiting error message (i.e. a normal MW error, rather than an "Internal Server Error"). [08:43:42] 03rotem * r27664 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update. [08:58:29] <_wooz> lo [10:15:51] 03raymond * r27665 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Updates German [10:21:33] 03raymond * r27666 10/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.i18n.php: * Don't translate 'changeauthor-short' to other languages. It is the name of the special page and at least all non ASCII characters break the special page. [10:27:23] wow [10:27:28] Hi all [10:28:09] anyone here can help me ? [10:53:52] 03(NEW) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12043 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin) [10:55:22] 03tstarling * r27667 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [10:55:22] * Refactored the parser. See my huge entry in RELEASE-NOTES for details. [10:55:22] * Made it possible to configure the parser class being used, via $wgParserConf. [10:55:22] * Moved defines from the top of Parser.php to either class constants or Defines.php [10:55:22] * Added Parser_DiffTest, a differential parser class for regression testing [10:55:25] * Added Parser_OldPP, a parser class which operates like the parser before this commit. I made one breaking change: a bugfix to avoid losing whitespace when adding MWTEMPLATESECTION markers. [10:55:28] * Made internal tidy work with PHP 5 [10:58:25] 03tstarling * r27668 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/NullRepo.php: A file repository without files. Gets rid of useless DB queries during parser testing. [11:07:35] 03tstarling * r27669 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/preprocessorFuzzTest.php: [11:07:35] A differential fuzz tester for the wikitext preprocessor. My changes don't pass [11:07:35] it completely, but it was useful anyway, it found lots of bugs for me. Maybe [11:07:35] it'll be useful to someone else some day. Best used with Parser_DiffTest. [11:08:34] did you see my commits? [11:09:42] tstarling * r27669 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/preprocessorFuzzTest.php: [11:09:43] that one? [11:11:41] 03siebrand * r27670 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Ignore a few messages [11:12:13] that one wasn't too exciting really [11:12:37] There was your parser refactoring a twenty minutes ago. [11:13:17] I mean the three of them [11:13:28] what's the magic i need to make my wiki work over both https and http? [11:13:36] when i access it via https, redirect URLs have http in [11:15:06] 03siebrand * r27671 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Ignore 2 messages in ChangeAuthor [11:15:36] hmm, defaultsettings tries to do it automatically but it doesn't seem to work [11:16:39] $wgProto = (isset($_SERVER['HTTPS']) && $_SERVER['HTTPS'] == 'on') ? 'https' : 'http'; [11:16:45] sun web server sets this to ON, not on [11:18:02] can someone change it to this? i don't have a working copy handy: $wgProto = (isset($_SERVER['HTTPS']) && strtolower($_SERVER['HTTPS']) == 'on') ? 'https' : 'http'; [11:20:04] there's a potential for cache pollution if you serve it over both [11:20:42] oh, really. hm [11:20:47] so i should probably just redirect http to https [11:21:30] or is that only for squid? (not using squid) [11:21:51] + static $n = 0; [11:21:51] + $rnd = "{$this->mUniqPrefix}-item-$n-{$this->mMarkerSuffix}"; [11:22:07] is there some deep idea that I don't see here? [11:22:18] Nikerabbit: static means it persists over function calls, retaining its value [11:22:27] Nikerabbit: instead of being re-initialised to 0 on every call [11:22:41] I doubt it's there for performance :) [11:23:12] Nikerabbit: $n can be incremented later, and its value will be 1 on the next call [11:23:18] it's only 0 on the first call [11:23:23] it's not incremented [11:28:16] better to redirect, yes [11:28:28] we're gonna have that same problem with ipv4/ipv6, aren't we? [11:28:33] at wikimedia we have a hack that puts the HTTPS status into the parser cache rendering hash [11:28:54] the situations where there's a difference are fairly rare, if you're lucky you might avoid them [11:28:58] assuming you use the same path [11:29:46] will the hostname be different with ipv6? [11:29:59] it probably should be while we're testing [11:31:45] hi [11:33:06] if i set a DEFAULTSORT on a page, that only overrides blank sort keys right? i can still use a different key on a category by category basis on the page? [11:33:17] Yep. [11:33:32] excellent [12:06:49] 03(mod) subst: don't work inside tags - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12016 (10N/A) [12:13:35] 03raymond * r27672 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): [12:13:35] * Do not present an image bigger than the source when 'frameless' option is used [12:13:35] * This is consistent with the 'thumb' option now: [12:13:35] ** Unchanged: [[Image:xyz.jpg|thumb]], [[Image:xyz.jpg|thumb|200px]] do not blow up an image larger than the source [12:13:35] ** Unchanged: [[Image:xyz.jpg|frameless]] does not blow up an image [12:13:39] ** New: [[Image:xyz.jpg|frameless|200px]] does not blow up an image [12:13:41] ** Unchanged: [[Image:xyz.jpg|200px]] still blows up an image [12:54:20] Hello [12:56:22] 31 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :( [12:56:25] hmmm [12:58:47] 03brion * r27673 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Initial implementation of restartable subprocess for text fetching in dumpTextPass.php [13:00:29] wc [13:01:32] Warning: call_user_func_array(): First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'Array' was given in /opt/web/pages/trunk/includes/Parser.php on line 3185 [13:04:54] looks like it broke parser function hooks being, well, functions [13:11:00] ah, you're having fun with the new parser are you? [13:11:59] I didn't commit the new ParserFunctions yet, and I didn't test the backwards-compatible branch [13:12:06] but it should be easy to fix [13:15:17] there we go [13:15:28] 12 previously failing test(s) now PASSING! :) [13:16:28] 03brion * r27674 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Fix regression in parser testing with parser function hooks; format of internal structure changed, affecting copying of hooks from main to test parser. [13:16:56] 19 to go [13:17:49] oh, a problem with parserTests.inc? I didn't commit my parserTests.inc, because my changes all looked like hackish rubbish... [13:17:59] maybe there was something important in there somewhere [13:22:25] hmmmm, something odd about lst extension [13:23:00]
tags don't seem to get parsed in the output of {{#lst}} parser function [13:23:10] they get spit out as escaped source [13:23:18] instead of being parsed and returning empty strings [13:23:55] well no, they wouldn't... [13:23:56] escaped source encapsulated within UNIQ ... QINU? [13:24:21] no, PunkRock . [13:24:27] darn. [13:25:03] is there a way to force replacement of those? [13:25:11] TimStarling: any specific reason why not? [13:25:31] where are they meant to be parsed? is it by some hook? [13:25:44] it's a parser tag hook [13:26:01] hrmmmmm [13:26:04] hang on [13:27:36] and also aren't parsed [13:28:06] no, because they're on the output side of the preprocessor [13:28:20] it doesn't parse its own output by default anymore, there's an input side and an output side [13:28:34] hmmmm [13:28:44] ''' is parsed... [13:28:51] yeah, that's in the main pass [13:28:56] so it'll have to run the preprocessor part? [13:29:14] or maybe it can set some flag to tell braceSubstitution() to run the preprocessor on it [13:30:48] you can just run replaceVariables on it, like the old code did [13:31:08] it's kind of sucky though, breaks the model a bit [13:31:25] well, I guess there are other cases where replaceVariables() is run [13:37:38] that's why I changed the strip markers to use \x7f instead of \x07, because \x7f is a compatibility character, so it can go into XML [13:37:47] 03brion * r27675 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.php: Temporary hack to make lst mostly work... Some tests still fail. :( Section links going to wrong page, etc [13:37:56] it allows you to feed strip markers back into replaceVariables() [13:38:45] \x7f was in fact the only character that worked [13:38:59] because it's the only legal compatibility character that's not a title character [13:39:14] and if you use all title characters in your strip markers, you break one of the parser tests [13:39:26] [[x]] [13:42:24] is LST used on wikimedia? I didn't think it was [13:43:13] wikisource has it enabled [13:48:30] Hello [13:50:02] the thing about section links going to the wrong page... [13:50:29] there's a title member of the PPTemplateFrame object [13:50:39] that's the title used by the section link [13:50:54] re [13:50:58] it'd be like... [13:51:17] $dom = $parser->fetchTemplateDom( $title ); [13:51:42] $newFrame = $frame->newChild( array(), $title ); [13:51:53] $text = $newFrame->expand( $dom ); [13:52:30] you get a $frame argument if the parser hook is registered with SFH_OBJECT_ARGS [13:54:44] hm. sysopRequired results in a error that it is outdated, why doesn't it also report how it was replaced? [13:55:22] user->isAllowed('sysop') [13:55:24] IIRC :) [13:55:30] oh. [13:55:34] hihihi [13:55:42] that was a hard one :) [13:57:23] PunkRock: for anything page-related, it's better to use userCan instead of isAllowed. and it's also generally a good idea to introduce specific permissions. the *permission* called sysop is really an ugly hack. it shouldn't exists. [13:58:09] maybe it should be called something else. like sucky_sysop_pseudo_permission_thingy. [13:58:18] why doesn't my wiki recognise [file:///\\path\file] URLs? [13:58:37] david_: because file: usrls don't make sense in a web application, generally. so it's not enabled. [13:58:52] david_: also, a lot of browsers will not allow file: urls in http pages [13:59:10] Duesentrieb: Ok! got it. so you keep the method for downward compatibility. but it would be more descriptive to write how the function was outdated instead of only reporting that it is deprecated. [13:59:15] Im using the wiki for our Intranet so that we all can share public documentation on our NAS sevrer [13:59:20] (also, your url is missing a drive letter) [13:59:26] plus it says it should work in the Format docs [13:59:38] PunkRock: indeed. [13:59:52] david_: what format docs? [13:59:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [14:00:06] david_: remember: docs are on a wiki :) any jackass can edit them. [14:00:09] check the second postin the table [14:00:29] david_: $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; [14:00:42] then the wiki will allow it. if it will work as expected is a different question [14:00:47] afaik, it will with MSIE [14:00:52] it will not with firefox. [14:01:17] ff disallows file urls in pages it loads via http for security reasons [14:02:00] david_: the example is broken & wron in multiple ways. i'll remove it. [14:02:15] nooh [14:02:19] So many rules against what would be my typical procedure before asking something in here... anyway, is there any way I can avoid a template being parsed out of context of the page it is included to? [14:03:06] To be more precise, I want to make a template for a single row of a in pages it is used in [14:03:19] Duesentrieb: thanx [14:03:30] like,
{{sometemplate|a=b|c=d}} {{sometemplate|a=e|c=f}}
[14:04:02] however, all table-related tags in the template wind up being "neutralized" to <tag> [14:06:17] added a factoid [14:06:22] !fileurl | david_ [14:06:22] david_ : To allow local file:///xxx links, use $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUrlProtocols for more information. [14:06:54] blackhole89: do the table in wiki table code and not html, sanitizer is fighting against you here [14:06:57] yeah, Duesentrieb told me :) [14:07:05] and It worked like he said [14:07:15] ff == nono and in msie it works like a charm :p [14:07:52] david_: it's a bot :) i was just showing you the factoid i added for your question. [14:08:13] lol [14:08:14] well, but the point is that I need lots of additional formatting on the single rows that can hardly be achieved without extensive CSS <_< [14:08:16] ;) [14:08:20] uberfuzzy: bad bot [14:09:09] david_: you are confused :) [14:16:23] 03tstarling * r27676 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php: SFH_OBJECT_ARGS versions of #if and #ifeq [14:16:35] okay, since it seems that problem can't be resolved... is there any way to make templates variadic and create a copy of a piece of output code for each, say, 5 parameters? [14:18:02] blackhole89: iirc templates interfering with tables is a know issue - you should be able to fix it by enableing tidy. [14:18:09] blackhole89: $wgUseTidy = true; [14:18:29] what exactly does that switch change? [14:18:30] blackhole89: also, in the context of complex templates, use html syntax for tables, consistently. [14:18:56] let's have a look at this LST extension... [14:18:56] it enables w3c's html cleanup tingy called "tidy". [14:19:26] 03brion * r27677 10/trunk/backup/worker.py: use spawn subprocess option for dumpTextPass [14:19:44] as for the HTML syntax... that's what I am doing [14:19:49] and it disables Sanitizer::removeHTMLtags()'s "crap" mode [14:19:51] good. enable tidy [14:19:51] Duesentrieb: to much data :D [14:25:24] doesn't r27676 add switchhook twice? [14:26:21] maybe [14:26:56] is that a problem? [14:29:00] TimStarling: don't know, just wondering [14:29:10] 03tstarling * r27678 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php: register #switch once [14:30:04] just kidding [14:34:03] 03siebrand * r27679 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (62 files): Fix syntax somewhat for 2 messages in 62 languages (shouldn't this be in the code?) [14:34:50] wouldn't it be nice if editors detected the indentation style of a file and automatically set their settings to match it? [14:36:48] i wonder why they dont do that [15:13:50] 03(NEW) $wgUploadNavigationUrl - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12044 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (demicx) [15:15:27] 03(mod) $wgUploadNavigationUrl - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12044 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [15:21:03] 03yaron * r27680 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: [15:21:03] Bug fixes - added definitions of new property constants, and better [15:21:03] handling for SMW 1.0 [15:22:19] 03catrope * r27681 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Check markbotedits permission on regular rollback as well [15:47:06] 03(NEW) External Image Links doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12045 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (ghassem) [16:13:00] 03catrope * r27682 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialIpblocklist.php: [16:13:00] APIEDIT BRANCH MERGE: [16:13:00] * Splitting DB code from IPBlocklist::doSubmit() to IPBlocklist::doUnblock() [16:13:00] * Introducing IPBlocklist::UNBLOCK_* constants [16:13:00] Note to scrutinizers: because I made changes like $this->ip to $ip on many [16:13:01] lines, the diff for this revision looks very complicated. Most of that is just [16:13:03] diff(1)'s stupidity. Comparing the code by hand (eye?) may be less confusing. [16:37:34] Ooh, new parser. [16:46:33] 03(NEW) Make deletions visible on the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12046 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (martijnhoekstra) [16:49:01] 03erik * r27683 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: update Judson [16:58:31] 03(NEW) Persian month names of Hebrew calendar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12047 15enhancement; lowest; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (roozbeh) [17:05:52] 0 == 'local'?! [17:05:56] You have *got* to be kidding me. [17:06:25] I thought it was only 0 == '0'. [17:06:32] Oh, right. [17:06:33] Of course. [17:06:42] *Simetrical forgot PHP's string-to-int conversion technique for a second there [17:06:45] *Simetrical sighs [17:21:35] hmm is there anything in mediawiki interfaring
? getting this when using it http://en.znc.in/wiki/index.php?title=User:Psychon/Rehashing&direction=prev&oldid=2021#Log_from_.23znc_.2F_EFNet_Nov_11th
[17:23:13] 	hmmmm mysterious
[17:24:41] 	could be a funky extension issue
[17:24:45] 	or a weird php compat issue
[17:25:43] 	ok when i saved it, Kuja^ ...
[17:25:43] 	im only using ConfirmEdit and Syslog
[17:25:57] 	did you do anything else in that edit? any other change? full page edit or section edit?
[17:27:15] 	uhm i have no idea the one who did the edit is currently at dinner and asked me to ask here :)
[17:27:28] 	blah
[17:27:53] 	btw are you maintianing Syslog? it errors out on watch for me
[17:28:02] 	i'm not familiar with it
[17:29:11] 	hello, I am new and have problems after importing the dump - see problems like #redirect [[Template:badtitle]]. Can someone help me ?
[17:31:49] 	I couldn't find any help on underlining words in wiki articles.  Is it possible?
[17:32:07] 	word
[17:32:56] 	03simetrical * r27684 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Tweaks for the new rateLimited(): remove @todo i18n, allow robot follow (if it sees any worthwhile links, why not?)
[17:33:22] 	TimLaqua: Thank you :)
[17:33:50] 	anytime.  ;-)
[17:34:47] 	Can someone help me with my issue ? please ?
[17:34:58] 	03brion * r27685 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (dumpTextPass.php fetchText.php): Do text normalization in dumpTextPass rather than fetchText, to ensure that the force-loaded ICU plugin will be used in the parent process.
[17:35:28] 	freemae, what dump did you import?
[17:36:55] 	TimLaqua: itwiktionary-latest-pages-articles.xml and also cswiktionary-latest-pages-articles.xml produce the same error. skwiktionary-20071116-pages-articles.xml seem to be working fine
[17:37:44] 	freemae: er what's the problem exactly?
[17:39:11] 	All articles start squashed up against the title.  Is there a way to start articles one line down globally, or do I have to insert 
at the top of every article? [17:39:11] brion: as I mentioned, in rendered pages I see something like this: #redirect [[Šablona:badtitle]], |{{#if: matky| nom }}}} matka }} matky }} ... normally, this should be replaced .. not ? [17:39:19] you need the full dump [17:39:22] not just -articles [17:40:06] freemae: can you say exactly which page title this is? [17:40:46] freemae: Generally templates are not in the -articles dump, you need one which includes everything. (IIRC) [17:41:04] electron: templates would be included in that [17:41:19] talk and user pages are excluded [17:41:20] :( [17:41:33] freemae: Got parser functions installed? [17:42:26] brion: so, he did a full page edit not a section edit. [17:43:19] but he didn't change the section that was nuked out in the edit [17:44:18] electron: yes I have ParserFunctions installed [17:52:26] well .. I only downloaded the page-articles.xml dump and imported it using the importDump.php utility .. is it enought ? [17:57:49] freemae: exactly which page is it? [17:59:49] ah well [17:59:50] lunchies :) [18:09:14] 03(NEW) Bulgarian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12048 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (dimitar.tsonev) [18:10:00] hi [18:18:17] got a problem, haven't been able to find the answer via google, I am trying to make a template, in that template there will be a table, in that table there will be preformatted text. If I use the
{{{varname}}}
syntax {{{varname}}} is never replaced. What is the method to have preformatted text in a template? [18:18:17] 03raymond * r27686 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * Support {{PLURAL}} for import log [18:18:57] trixter: Not possible, as far as I know. [18:20:15] trixter, one fun aspect of wiki syntax is that there's no way to create HTML
 tags in arbitrary positions without escaping wikitext inside.
[18:20:30] 	trixter, starting the line with a blank space creates a 
 tag, but that doesn't work for enclosing tables.
[18:21:17] 	trixter, you have to use CSS white-space: pre;.
[18:21:17] 	Which technically is not guaranteed to work, since whitespace is irrelevant in XHTML outside of 
 and so any user-agent may compress or ignore it.  But in practice it tends to work.
[18:21:32] 	I think I tried that once and it didn't work in Firefox.
[18:21:36] *Pathoschild 	tries it.
[18:22:04] 	Simetrical: that is what I was going to try next, just trying to make stuff look nicer on this wiki :P
[18:22:30] 	Pathoschild, it works in Firefox.
[18:22:49] 	At least if Firefox receives the whitespace unmangled, which as I say, generally it does.
[18:23:22] 	Inline CSS on a div? 
[18:24:13] 	that is close, although it loses all the CSS attributes assigned to the pre tag :(  I noticed somewhere that pre and /pre tags get tokenized as preA and preZ 
[18:24:21] 	is there any way to specify the tokens?
[18:24:38] 	Pathoschild, look at the source, MediaWiki mangles that before Firefox can get to it.
[18:24:53] 	it's actually tidy, not mediawiki, iirc
[18:25:04] 	Meh.
[18:25:10] 	Then it's probably worthless to try white-space: pre.
[18:25:30] 	trixter, er, no?  Not sure what you're asking.  You can duplicate the CSS attributes for 
.  Yes, it's stupid, but there you have it.
[18:26:09] 	yeah that is just a pain if they are ever updated :/  
[18:28:43] 	03(FIXED) Bulgarian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12048   +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[18:29:05] 	thanks for the help
[18:29:52] 	03(mod) ifexist function creating wantedpages noise - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12019  +comment (10david.sledge)
[18:32:37] 	What is the best way to download and structure Wikipedia data? I want the info box details in a table, and the first (intro) para - without the disambiguation or other notices
[18:33:39] 	I can think of 3 ways - download the full Wikipedia DB and play with it on MySQL; play with the HTML source of the rendered page; play with the WikiText in the action=edit page
[18:33:51] 	What is the easiest approach ?
[18:37:02] 	so, i'm working on this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title
[18:37:06] 	which lots of people smileyfaced/.
[18:37:20] 	and it does work, save for when i go to edit a page - it then turns into an editing of Index.php
[18:37:33] 	(literally, a mediawiki page named index.php)
[18:37:37] 	Morbus: you're using the same path for index.php and your articles.  don't do that.
[18:38:09] 	so, the outside-the-webroot directory name can not be named the same thing as the alias you'd like to have in your URL?
[18:39:05] 	i don't know what you mean by 'outside-the-webroot directory name'
[18:39:12] 	the path to index.php can't be the same as the path to your articles
[18:39:50] 	ok. that seems really dirty.
[18:39:55] *Morbus 	doesn't do alias method.
[18:40:01] 	why?
[18:40:24] 	i don't want to pollute my url namespace with two roots for the wiki.
[18:40:39] 	 w/index.php and wiki/Main_Page bugs me.
[18:40:47] 	ah, but you want to pollute your article namespace with random other things that aren't articles
[18:40:54] 	huh?
[18:41:35] 	i have it working the way i'd like using mod_rewrite/.htaccess on other servers.
[18:41:42] 	but this server is being a pain in the ass, and i'm not sure why.
[18:41:53] 	is there any new enforcement of this rule in 0.11?
[18:42:17] 	sorry, hold on.
[18:42:30] 	yeah, 1.10.0 vs. 1.11.0?
[18:43:50] 	in all things i've tried that have worked in 1.10.0 on another server, with mod_rewrite/.htaccess, it always came back to that "editing Index.php" issue.
[18:43:52] 	Morbus: 1.11, durr ;)
[18:43:58] 	yes, some broken configurations stopped working.. i think a configuration variable got added to enable the old behaviour, but i don't remember its name
[18:44:00] 	03(NEW) search "Results 1-2 of 2" but only one - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12049 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Search; ()
[18:44:03] 	so, either this server is crazy, or its a new enforcement in 1.11.
[18:44:49] 	flyingparchment: for what it's worth, i don't consider wiki/ my article namespace. i consider it my complete install of the wiki software, including dynamic data (articles) and static data (images)
[18:44:53] 	Hello
[18:45:03] 	is that considered a broken configuration in 1.11.0?
[18:45:23] 	the problem is, what if you want an article, but you already have a file of the same name?
[18:45:28] 	and yes, that's the configuration i was referring to
[18:45:33] 	yes, i hear that argument every time.
[18:45:37] 	and it has never happen.
[18:45:38] 	*ed.
[18:45:44] 	i'm not worried about it.
[18:46:47] *Morbus 	checks 1.11.0 changelog.
[18:48:51] 	03rotem * r27689 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[18:48:52] 	03sanbeg * r27688 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.php: 
[18:48:52] 	Better version detection on hack; will prevent breakage with new LTS & old
[18:48:52] 	Parser, and be useful when we fix this.
[18:48:53] 	03raymond * r27687 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser.i18n.php: 
[18:48:53] 	* (bug 12048) Add Bulgarian translation
[18:48:56] 	 Patch by DCLXVI
[18:50:38] 	flyingparchment: do you have any tips of where i would look for this configuration change?
[18:50:46] 	includes/DefaultSettings.php
[18:50:49] 	i don't suppose there's a magical "added in 1.11.0" config list.
[18:50:51] 	okee.
[18:57:36] 	flyingparchment: would wikia be considered a broken configuration?
[18:57:53] 	Morbus, quite possibly.
[18:58:07] 	actually, no, sorry. i was looking at a hosted domain wiki, not a subdomain.
[18:58:11] 	They happen to be a rather large third-party user, but that doesn't really change anything.
[18:58:24] 	wikia was correct when i last looked - but that was a while ago
[18:58:31] 	flyingparchment, I think it varies by site.
[18:58:37] 	yeah, seems to.
[18:58:44] 	marveldatabase is "broken", but bioshock isn't.
[18:58:53] 	one's a hosted domain, another is a hosted subdomain.
[18:59:19] 	couldn't find that variable, nor could i find any notes about this in the Upgrade log.
[18:59:21] *Morbus 	hrms.
[19:00:21] 	though, i don't appear to be able to get it to work doing it with /w and /wiki either
[19:00:37] 	ah, nevermind.
[19:00:39] 	see my error there.
[19:01:09] 	03simetrical * r27690 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[19:01:09] 	* Fix Special:Userrights logs for users with special characters in their names.
[19:01:09] 	Previously it was urlencoding the page name passed to the FauxRequest, which did
[19:01:09] 	*not* urldecode it, so the constraint was being ignored by LogReader as invalid
[19:01:09] 	and the whole log was being posted.
[19:01:09] 	* Whitespace, __METHOD__, documentation for FauxRequest to avoid (hopefully?) a repeat bug
[19:01:13] 	* Todo: look for other instances of the bug
[19:03:39] *Morbus 	thinks of a better name for w/, as w/ makes no sense.
[19:04:29] *Morbus 	supposes he'll do wiki-files.
[19:05:02] 	personally i use the new actionpaths for nice URLs
[19:05:09] 	(example: http://wiki.ts.wikimedia.org/)
[19:05:13] 	yeah, i haven't had a chance to investigate that.
[19:05:18] 	i have 10 minutes here, 5 minutes there, etc.
[19:05:27] 	and a bunch of people yelling for upgrades )
[19:05:28] 	;)
[19:05:46] 	downside is if you don't have a dedicated domain, you need two parts, like /wiki/view/Article
[19:05:56] 	but if you do, it's much nicer
[19:05:59] 	yeah, i'd be absolutely fine with that.
[19:06:12] 	i actually do multi-hosting with a LocalSettings.php hack that treats MW like Drupal.
[19:06:52] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Drupal-style_LocalSettings.php
[19:07:07] 	i haven't yet upgraded that set, though, so no idea how nicely it'll work with 1.11.0.
[19:07:37] 	hrm. can I do wiki-files/ as wiki/files?
[19:07:42] 	will that break the config too?
[19:07:51] 	without actionpaths, i mean.
[19:08:06] 	though, i suppose that'd still break the article namespace.
[19:08:08] 	Morbus, er, won't that try rewriting wiki/ to a subdirectory of itself?
[19:08:14] 	And yeah, it would.
[19:08:19] 	so suppose it's still considered broken.
[19:08:24] 	The wiki/ directory should be empty, or preferably not even exist.
[19:08:43] 	well, in the so-called proper configuration, wiki/ isn't in a directory.
[19:08:50] 	it's an endpoint to a database view ;)
[19:08:52] 	Really, though, lots of people want this.  We should just add a $wgIllegalPageNames setting so people can make filenames in the root directory illegal cleanly.
[19:08:56] 	which is quite unlike how i'd like to treat it.
[19:09:07] 	And then use the broken method to their heart's content.
[19:09:08] 	i remember the setting to enable broken conigurations: $wgUsePathInfo
[19:09:14] 	set it to true
[19:09:21] 	oh? i saw that already... didn't think it related.
[19:09:32] 	i did notice the change from index.php?title= to index.php/MainPage though.
[19:10:05] 	hmm, maybe it isn't the one.. hang on
[19:10:08] 	That's always been the case by default, if the server supports it being done automatically.
[19:10:20] 	ah
[19:10:45] 	hrm.. looking at the code, maybe there isn't a setting for it
[19:10:55] 	if you know php, you could mangle includes/WebRequest.php
[19:11:06] 	yeah, i do. but modifying core is bad, mmkay.
[19:11:07] 	;)
[19:12:21] 	okay, i think you can set $wgUsePathInfo to false, and rewrite to index.php?title= (if you aren't already)
[19:13:00] 	ok. i'll fiddle with that on the next one in the queue. i've got this one doing wiki/ and wiki-files/.
[19:17:01] 	Hey all.
[19:17:07] 	How can I allow *any* html in mediawki pages?
[19:17:21] 	Can I just comment out the code that checks for disallowed tags? Where is that, if so?
[19:17:24] 	seanw, I think $wgUseRawHTML or something.
[19:17:41] 	seanw, there's a config option.  Needless to say, this is not recommended on wikis editable by non-trusted users.
[19:17:48] 	Well
[19:17:52] 	I *think* that allows any HTML code at all.
[19:17:53] 	It's a wiki only I can edit
[19:17:57] 	Set up for convenience of editing
[19:18:03] 	So I think I trust myself ;)
[19:18:16] 	seanw, lol :P
[19:18:25] 	hmm
[19:18:26] 	!html
[19:18:26] 	For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include  and .
[19:18:30] 	;D
[19:18:47] 	Leet thanks
[19:19:03] 	enjoy~
[19:21:23] 	Oh dear.
[19:21:26] 	This doesn't seem to be working :\
[19:23:12] 	Jack_Phoenix, Simetrical: look at http://silentflame.com/
[19:23:47] 	ugh - I have never used that setting though... =|
[19:25:42] 	np :-)
[19:28:36] 	Okay
[19:28:40] 	I think that it might be my theme
[19:28:48] 	Does anyone know where the html blocking code is?
[19:32:24] 	seanw, includes/Sanitizer.php.
[19:32:40] *Simetrical 	raises an eyebrow at seanw 
[19:32:47] 	Hmm, it's clever enough not to notice multiple times.
[19:32:54] *Simetrical 	goes off to school
[19:43:56] 	seanw: It should just work by default.
[19:44:01] 	oh man
[19:44:02] 	he went away
[20:02:39] 	I can't get internal links to display properly.  I want to link to a page called "example (blah blah)", but only want to display "example".  I tried '[[example (blah)|example]]' but it displays "example (blah)|example", which is not what I want.
[20:03:22] 	Correction... it displays "/etc/ntp.conf (FreeBSD)/etc/ntp.conf " but it's still now what I want
[20:03:54] 	03(FIXED) Persian month names of Hebrew calendar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12047  +comment (10huji.huji)
[20:05:24] 	Twinkletoes: url?
[20:05:39] 	Duesentrieb: It's internal
[20:05:43] 	too bad.
[20:06:29] 	Twinkletoes: post the wiki code in question here: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox
[20:07:19] 	Duesentrieb: I just checked it again... I'd forgotten (or somehow deleted accidentally) the pipe symbol.. I@ve been working for ages trying to fogure it out!!
[20:07:31] 	Duesentrieb: Thank you though :)
[20:07:37] 	>_<
[20:07:52] 	sometimes it helps to just tell someone...
[20:08:44] 	Duesentrieb: Yes, I think you're right
[20:10:48] 	Different question... I quite often change the name of pages after I've written them... the process of moving them, then going into the original, blanking out the #REDIRECT statement, then deleting it, is very very tedious.  Can I not simply rename the page?
[20:11:07] 	you don't need to blank a page to delete it
[20:12:49] 	flyingparchment: If I don't blank it by removing the #REDIRECT, then it deleted the page it as redirected too aswell
[20:13:51] 	no, it won't.. you're doing something wrong
[20:14:27] 	flyingparchment: I'll test agagin...
[20:15:45] 	flyingparchment: Damn, I mean good! - you're right ! - When I first started moving/deleting pages, I know it deleted both, but now seems to be ok
[20:15:48] 	flyingparchment: thank you
[20:16:18] 	the creation of a redirect on move used to be optional... but it isn't anymore, it seems
[20:22:37] 	o/
[20:23:04] 	wondering if someone could help me out
[20:23:20] 	how do I create a user with systemop previlages?
[20:25:01] 	get them to create an account the standard way
[20:25:06] 	then visit Special:Userrights
[20:25:11] 	and follow the instructions
[20:27:52] 	Hi all. I've got a question about using images in Mediawiki. We'd like to do some things that involve using images as hyperlinks to other web pages. We'd like to do this bot for internal linking within the wiki, and also for linking to external web pages. I haven't been able to find a good way of doing this. Am I missing something?
[20:28:29] 	!imagemap | sheldonrampton 
[20:28:29] 	sheldonrampton : ImageMap is an extension that allows you to override the default linking behavior of images. See  for more information.
[20:28:56] 	Lo and behold...thanks!
[20:49:00] 	Raymond_ here we go:
[20:49:28] 	03huji * r27693 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserlogin.php: Having such comments in the code makes finding where a message is referenced easier, which is beneficial for internationalization and maintenance issues.
[20:50:01] 	\o/ Hojjat :)
[20:55:24] 	03sanbeg * r27694 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: try to prevent old extensions from exploding mysteriously; probably, there's a better way to do this
[20:56:32] 	03(NEW) Link to user and user talk page in Special:Blockip - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12050 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (huji.huji)
[20:57:58] 	Does anyone have a sample configuration for apache 2.2 and mediawiki 1.11 how to setup URL rewriting? I want my articles to show up under http://domain/Article and mediawiki is installed in the document root. I just can't seem to figure it out. And the examples in the documentation don't work at all.
[21:07:33] 	codesquid, what I suggest is, you read the examples given there again.
[21:07:47] 	once more :/
[21:07:48] 	btw, what is your configuration?
[21:08:25] 	I've just installed it in /var/www/wiki (which is the DocumentRoot)
[21:08:44] 	nothing else under that virtual host despite the wiki
[21:09:02] 	follow me in the private talk
[21:09:08] 	k
[21:09:54] 	codesquid: a) do not put the files into the document root b) do not map the pages into the document root c) use different pathes for real files and virtual pages d) do not set a RewriteBase e) but all rules into the .htacces in the document root.
[21:10:23] 	Duesentrieb, thanks, will try that
[21:21:05] 	what is the URL to delete a page?  SpecialPages:Delete or something?
[21:21:22] 	I do have sysop permissions, but in another skin
[21:21:52] 	03brion * r27695 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: 
[21:21:52] 	Cleanup vis-a-vis r27691
[21:21:52] 	Use x option on regex so we can break it up for legibility.
[21:21:52] 	PHP doesn't seem to let you concat multiple strings in a constant definition, which is kind of lame, so this seems to be the cleanest way to break it over lines. :P
[21:22:47] 	ah, stupid me; just change the skin
[21:23:23] 	if you are interested, I think you just append "&action=delete" at the end of a URL
[21:23:39] 	logged in as a sysop of course
[21:27:01] 	03brion * r27696 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: 
[21:27:01] 	Revert r27694 -- if you're seeing this problem, it's probably because you're
[21:27:01] 	pulling things out of $wgParser->mFunctionHooks and copying it to another parser
[21:27:01] 	without knowing the internal format has changed. That should be fixed whereever
[21:27:01] 	that's being done (as it was fixed on the parser tests.)
[21:30:50] 	Hojjat, Duesentrieb, thanks for your help, it's working now. Would have never figured this out on my own
[21:31:05] 	Happy you got it working :)
[21:59:32] 	03(NEW) Namespace "Comentarios" for es.wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12051 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (julian_pastine)
[22:27:05] 	03siebrand * r27697 10/trunk/phase3/ (16 files in 2 dirs): 
[22:27:05] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:27:05] 	* an, ast, be, cs, fo, fr, hsb, kaa, nl, pl, qu, sco, sdc, ss, tyv
[22:41:56] 	03siebrand * r27698 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Indent MinimumNameLength messages on export
[22:44:18] 	i uploaded a SVG graphic, but mediawiki seems to rasterize it and display a PNG version of the SVG
[22:44:29] 	is there any way to just have the SVG shown instead?
[22:45:12] 	sure, code a lot of stuff and then be dependent on specific browser 
[22:45:45] 	brion?
[22:48:49] 	03siebrand * r27699 10/trunk/extensions/ (18 files in 17 dirs): 
[22:48:49] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[22:48:49] 	* Fixes and additions to 18 extensions for be, el, fo, fr, nl, pl
[22:49:17] 	I think I lost section edit buttons in one of the recent commits.
[22:50:57] 	03sanbeg * r27700 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.php: remove hack & restore some flags to old defaults. We get 1 less regression this way; the rest are probably because the parser now ignores the headingOffset flag
[23:19:49] 	How can I delete the history/old revisions of all pages and uploads ?
[23:20:20] 	test34_: there's a maintenance script for deleting old revisions, i think
[23:20:25] 	look in the maintenance dir
[23:20:32] 	would it break anything if I delete them manually from the datavase
[23:20:36] 	ok thanks Duesentrieb
[23:21:08] 	well, deleting manually has the potential of breaking a lot of things. it *can* be clean, if you really know what you are doing.
[23:21:26] 	ok I will try the script then
[23:23:15] <_caseu>	Hi mediawiki guys.
[23:24:04] <_caseu>	I have a database question.
[23:24:38] 	Hi vague person.
[23:26:35] *Shannie 	slaps Pathoschild.
[23:26:43] 	:'(
[23:33:55] 	:P
[23:45:02] 	How do i create sysops again?
[23:45:17] 	or rather, what's the admin account, there doesn't seem to be a default one
[23:46:44] 	hiS_oWn: Look at the page "Special:Listusers" on your wiki; you should normally see one with "(sysop)".
[23:48:59] 	thanks patho
[23:49:19] 	2nd question: i have no idea what the password is for my sysop account, is there a way to find it?
[23:56:24] 	hiS_oWn: just click e-mail password
[23:57:15] 	Yeah here's the thing, the guy who set it up isn't with me anymore and i have no idea how to get into contact with him
[23:57:40] 	do you have direct db access?
[23:57:49] 	through mysql?
[23:58:07] 	to user data in mysql
[23:58:18] 	just the information that's in the LocalSettings.php
[23:59:09] 	without the ability to manipulate the actual database and with no working e-mail address, you may be out of luck