[00:21:17] 03siebrand * r27740 10/trunk/extensions/ (20 files in 17 dirs): [00:21:17] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [00:21:17] * Fixes and additions to 17 extensions for el, fo, fr, hsb, nl, stq [01:37:47] is anyone experienced with `mwlib' at all by chance? http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/wiki [01:38:00] it looks pretty promising, with the exception that it has NO documentation! [01:40:32] they didn't even comment the code! at all! [02:15:41] I have an new install of mediawiki working, and I have an older wikidb from another server. How can I recover all the old wiki data ? Which table is it in ? [02:17:33] would it be in the 'cur' table ? [02:18:57] is there a help channel or do you accept questions here? [02:21:57] chris_needs_help: this is for mediawiki development and support [02:23:00] osmosis: it's spread out among the database [02:23:10] and merging them would not work well [02:25:29] MZMcBride: hmm..well that sucks. [02:25:32] This is probably a simple question i have been racking my brain for 3 days [02:25:53] MZMcBride: there is nothing on the new site, its empty. so its not really a merge. more like an upgrade, but manually. [02:26:09] I have my permissions set in LocalSettings and Default for sysop to edit the navigation block but dont see ho to [02:26:28] how to* [02:26:44] chris_needs_help: you logged in as the sysop user? [02:26:58] yes [02:27:05] osmosis: when you run config.php, why didn't you just set it to the proper database? [02:27:28] I can go to Special pages and block IPs change users but cant see where to edit the links on the nav block [02:27:40] "nav block"? [02:28:07] you mean the toolbox? [02:28:10] navigation aka Sidebar [02:28:41] go to Special:Allmessages [02:29:05] every configurable message is located there; they're all "blank" by default [02:29:22] to edit the sidebar, you need MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:29:27] dont see Allmessages I see All Pages [02:29:52] example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Allmessages [02:31:03] ok I have sucessfully surfed to the URL [02:35:08] does mediawiki use innodb by default ? [02:36:53] MZMcBride Thanks so much I think I got it [02:37:09] so confused there for a minute [02:39:21] Excellent it works [02:39:45] *chris_needs_help is grateful for the help with such a simple solution [02:44:44] chris_needs_help: no problem :) [02:44:51] osmosis: i can't remember [02:45:03] appears no, its all MyISAM [02:51:34] so where exactly is all of my wiki data saved? [02:51:46] in your mysql database, usually [02:53:51] 03erik * r27741 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtBaseView.php: actually point to thread history [02:54:43] MZMcBride: yah...but i cant find it. I have the db still, can't find the data. [02:55:41] it's in mysql? [02:55:41] what is $wgOut->reportTime() used for? [02:56:00] MZMcBride: yah, i have the mysql db still. looking at the tables..i dont see my data. [02:56:21] MZMcBride: i see some of the text in the 'searchindex' table....but all the formating is gone so that can't be right. [02:56:21] well the user table contains any users [02:56:34] MZMcBride: i just want the actual wiki entries. [02:57:25] so what table would that be ? [02:58:18] soo..uhh..anyone know where the actual wiki entires are ? [02:59:17] the page table? [02:59:49] but if you try to just extract that, it will probably be very bad [02:59:59] the tables are all woven very tightly together [03:01:22] MZMcBride: okay..but still..it has to be stored somewhere. I can't just give up and trash all my entries. There is data there. [03:01:38] i believe it's in the page table [03:01:40] Even if I have to copy and paste it all into a text file and re-enter it into the wiki. [03:01:52] you could use Special:Export and Special:Import [03:02:07] also, you could just have config/index.php update the old database [03:02:26] i dont have a 'page' table unfortunately? Does mediawiki support other storage engines besides mysql. Maybe its in a flat file on the hd somewhere ? [03:04:40] nah..i looked in LocalSettings.php ...looks like MySQL. [03:05:18] yeah [03:05:35] if the old version can access the database, it has to have the contact info in LocalSettings.php [03:06:29] MZMcBride: yah, it see it. it looks norma. [03:06:31] normal [03:06:45] but i dont get it, because I still dont see my data anywhere. [03:07:06] how are you accessing the mysql database? [03:08:11] MZMcBride: both mysql cli and phpmyadmin [03:08:28] in phpmyadmin, go to the page table and click browse [03:08:48] MZMcBride: there is no page table. not in the old db, or in the working install of MediaWiki I have setup. [03:09:24] in the sidebar on the left in phpmyadmin, there isn't a link for page? [03:10:25] MZMcBride: http://dpaste.com/25573/ [03:11:01] is this the old db or the new one? [03:11:15] new [03:11:22] have you created any pages? [03:11:47] MZMcBride: I just edited and saved a version of Main_Page [03:12:06] does it appear in the recentchanges table? [03:12:39] yes. [03:12:45] How about the 'cur' table ? [03:13:57] i really don't know, db's really are my thing... [03:15:38] +not [03:18:12] MZMcBride: i have a pages.frm file [03:18:20] or page.frm rather [03:18:34] is it empty? [03:18:41] its binary [03:18:51] ohh..looks like innodb needs the (ibdata file [03:20:00] yah thats it [03:20:28] yah...all the data is back no. Just needed to copy over the other innodb files [03:22:38] Has anyone else upgraded to 1.11.0 and is not able to get an 'Edit' link anymore for sections, but instead, a ? [03:23:17] no; are you using the default skin? [03:24:02] Yep. [03:24:46] does it happen logged out? [03:25:02] Using english also. Also getting a PHP warning about array_slice in Language.php at line 1153 at the same time... [03:26:19] Yes, logged out, same thing. [03:26:39] have you updated your extensions? [03:26:45] I thought it was an extension I tried installing, but I've disabled everything relating to that. [03:27:07] Yeah, I've got both extensions I had, commented out right now. [03:27:33] and they don't appear in Special:Version? [03:28:30] Can someone point me to the Special page that lists the alphabetic index? [03:28:56] setuid: Special:Allpages you mean? [03:29:12] MZMcBride: Nope, nothing in there, but as there's no section to edit, well, heh. [03:29:14] Looking [03:29:24] No, that's not it [03:30:07] Verilium, It's a master index that has Aa, Ab, Ac, Ad, and so on... for all letters. [03:30:27] like wikipedia? [03:32:24] "Warning: array_slice() [function.array-slice]: The first argument should be an array in /vol0/local/mediawiki-1.11.0/languages/Language.php on line 1153" Hmm... [03:32:51] how did you update? [03:33:13] MZMcBride: Another directory, moved LocalSettings and all images over. Ran update.php. [03:33:30] Yeah, I see instead of the usual [Edit]. [03:33:49] what's the source code read? [03:35:25] I see:

<editsection-brackets> Misc

[03:37:11] check MediaWiki:Editsection [03:38:14] I see... "edit" [03:38:50] trying creating the page with "edit" [03:38:51] ? [03:39:01] setuid: were you referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Quick_index ? [03:39:27] MZMcBride: I can edit pages with the top level edit tab, if that's what you mean? [03:39:53] MediaWiki:Editsection is what is supposed to be displayed between the brackets [03:40:06] That's the one [03:40:31] setuid: that's just a normal page in the project namespace that lists links to Special:Allpages/Aa, etc. [03:40:46] Why do I have a feeling this is something language related somehow.. [03:41:04] it could be, what language are you using? [03:41:04] MZMcBride, I need it as my primary index page, so that'll do. [03:41:21] MZMcBride, I'm working on this: http://projects.plkr.org/encycloplucker/ [03:41:36] Verilium: and is LocalSettings.php configured correctly? [03:42:02] setuid: a simple copy-paste should do you, with slight removals [03:42:08] MZMcBride, Tight [03:42:10] er, Right [03:42:24] MZMcBride, I'm doing this in a very different way in the short term [03:42:29] MZMcBride: Well, all I have in there that relates to language is: $wgLanguageCode = "en"; [03:43:19] Verilium: does setting it to a different language load correctly? [03:43:38] MZMcBride, I have 15k .bz2 files, created by running bzip2recover on the 2.9G enwiki db dump... from that, I index it with Xapian, then wrap a Perl front-end on top of it... which basically let's me bzcat the appropriate .bz2 file, and output the article within it that I want. Here's what it looks like: [03:43:40] or just change your preferences for a second [03:43:43] http://65.172.152.98:8080/article/Gravitational_field/ [03:43:47] Click around on the links, you'll see [03:43:59] It's not the speediest, yet. [03:44:28] heh, i clicked a redirect [03:44:31] Some of those space links iteratively call latex for functions, but... [03:44:52] MZMcBride: You know, upper-right, when logged in, I'm also seeing this, instead of the usual: # <mywatchlist> [03:44:52] # My contributions [03:45:12] Again, the "# <" part. [03:45:23] what happens when you change the language in your preferences? [03:46:27] :( wonder if theres an easy to do this. Trying to to got a varible containing text (with wikimarkup), want to parse it tried creating parser and using parse but requires ltos of extra stuff, wonder if theres a simplier way (with out needing to be so lagnuage specifc for magic words etc) [03:46:50] No change. All the interface text has changed to french, but the problem remains, as far as is concerned. [03:47:33] and you still have that php error? [03:47:48] I have no idea why it would be language related neither, it's not like I'm using different languages in this wiki at all, straight english. :) [03:47:49] Yeah.. [03:48:05] and no extensions? [03:48:47] Nope. The only thing that is not commented out, that is a require_once, is: require_once( "includes/DefaultSettings.php" ); [03:49:33] well you need that [03:49:41] Yeah, thought so. :) [03:50:12] you could try getting a newer version of Language.php from SVN [03:50:17] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php [03:50:40] For some reason, googling on that php error message is getting alot of results, of seemingly other 1.11.0 instances with the same thing. [03:53:54] MZMcBride: Nope, doesn't work, I suppose that Language.php is just too recent. [03:54:10] Wiki wont even load anymore. :) [03:54:22] The original error, and in addition: Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to Language::preConvertPlural() must be an array, string given, called in /vol0/local/mediawiki-1.11.0/languages/Language.php on line 1711 and defined in /vol0/local/mediawiki-1.11.0/languages/Language.php on line 1724 [03:55:22] i dunno... maybe try unzipping mediawiki again and moving LocalSettings [03:55:33] but i doubt that will help [03:55:40] Hmm, there's < and > pretty much everywhere, now that I browse around further. [03:56:27] MZMcBride: If I go into "Special pages", the first 5 links are now: <fewestrevisions> [03:56:33] <mostlinkedtemplates> [03:56:36] ...and so on. [04:16:48] Hmm, maybe I'll just have to downgrade. [04:33:03] 03(NEW) Deleted watchlisted pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12062 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (dhwl09) [04:53:04] hmm guess mediawiki doesn't like having to installs at the same db ;( [06:00:06] 03(mod) search "Results 1-2 of 2" but only one - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12049 (10jidanni) [07:47:32] 03mkroetzsch * r27742 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: Fixed RDF-Export for URLs with & [08:16:38] 03mkroetzsch * r27743 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_WikiPage.php: Improved handling for Media: links [08:24:11] <_wooz> lo [08:24:23] *Werdna hassles _wooz [08:33:29] Hello [08:37:41] I'm in trouble with a mediawiki 1.11 . I'm adding a new separate wiki (another wiki is already hosted on the same server and it works fine), with its own mysql tables. Install is ok but when I customize LocalSettings I get a blank page. It's seems to be caused by "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;" line, which seems to make MediaWiki::initialize function "crashed". Could anyone tell me what's wrong there ? [08:38:01] hello [08:38:11] can somebodyhelp me with my problem? [08:38:26] i want to upload pdf files directly to an article [08:38:41] so when i upload a pdf i want to see it in plain text [08:39:27] needhelp: Need to find some extension to convert pdf to text, but I don't think result would be great [08:39:48] i've looked all over the extension page [08:39:51] no result [08:40:03] all article to pd but not in reverse [08:40:45] needhelp: seems normal. Pdf is not a format to be converted to something else (properly). [08:40:48] so just open the pdf and then copy and paste the tekst into an article i think? [08:41:05] yup [08:41:08] it was worth to try it [08:41:18] okay tnx [08:41:27] np [08:41:28] i have one other question [08:41:43] shoot [08:41:48] 03rotem * r27744 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [08:42:08] we want to place an article in another format as usual... (sorry i'm duth so its hard to explane) [08:42:48] bu we want to place all in a sort of table... with collums... is that possible to do that without using the HTML tags in the article? [08:43:38] u know what i mean? [08:43:41] needhelp: wiki table syntax ? [08:43:50] {| | |- |} [08:43:57] needhelp: {| ... |} [08:43:58] yup [08:44:01] okay [08:44:06] so simple? [08:44:11] yup :-) [08:44:21] hi stemd [08:44:30] hello dungo ;-) [08:44:42] guten morgen :-) [08:44:42] :) [08:45:38] wont work..... [08:45:43] i'm a newbe haha [08:46:12] when i use {| text here |} i don't see any text when i save it [08:46:20] yup [08:46:31] try newlines [08:46:39] {| [08:46:43] text here [08:46:47] |} [08:46:52] okay [08:48:16] all between {| and |} will come in seperated lines [08:48:19] okay.. [08:49:16] when i made some text what is the way to put some text right of the text? [08:49:27] so like a second collum [08:49:28] ? [08:50:02] {| border="1" [08:50:02] |test [08:50:02] |} [08:50:18] table 1x1 [08:50:49] {| border="1" [08:50:50] |field1 [08:50:50] |field2 [08:50:50] |} [08:50:56] table 1x2 [08:50:59] needhelp: You could read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page I think [08:51:07] exactly :-) [08:53:16] Strange, I get a blank page due to "$parserCache->getETag($this, $wgUser);" in view() (Article.php) when I put "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;" in LocalSettings [09:12:23] 03erik * r27745 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: +Wikimedia Fundraising blog [09:13:40] In fact I get a blank page when MessageCache.php try to call wfRunHooks('LoadAllMessages'). What can cause that ? [09:17:27] 03rotem * r27746 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Fix an error on converting. [09:33:11] Is it a known issue that when there is an syntax error in i18n messages wfRunHooks('LoadAllMessages') fails silently with a blank page ? [09:47:54] 03siebrand * r27747 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFo.php: [09:47:54] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [09:47:54] * fo [10:37:19] Is there a way to move image/uploads to another wiki ? I'm setting up a wiki family and I'd like to move uploads currently in the orgin single wiki to a new wiki of the family dedicated to uploads (shared uploads) [10:56:55] Hi. Question: is it possible to block a user so that he/she cannot login anymore? [11:00:37] evi|one: no, but you can block them from editing. [11:00:50] Not good enough... [11:01:21] I guess I'll resort to changing the password. [11:01:24] why block from editing? [11:01:59] Because it's a very private wiki used internally by a company. Only logged in people can see the pages. [11:02:18] When someone leaves the company he/she is denied access completely. [11:18:12] hi people. When I try to access the upload link in my mediawiki installation, it gives a error that "/images" has no permissions, but in LocalSettings.php $wgEnableUploads is defined as true, and the directory images has 777 permission. What more can I try? [11:43:40] 03siebrand * r27748 10/trunk/extensions/AssertEdit/AssertEdit.php: Add i18n file [11:44:51] 03siebrand * r27749 10/trunk/extensions/AssertEdit/AssertEdit.i18n.php: Add i18n file [11:47:17] how do you block a user+ their ip address :s [11:48:41] meow [11:48:46] brown_cat: Special:Blockip. to retrieve their IP address, install and use the CheckUser extension. [11:48:48] rar Aaron [11:49:15] *brown_cat hugs Jack_Phoenix [11:49:22] :D [11:49:22] *brown_cat hugs AaronSchulz [11:49:31] *brown_cat gives Jack_Phoenix two cookies [11:49:54] whee, thanks ;D [11:58:42] Jack_Phoenix: one other q... when users register, the default user type is sysop, is there a way to change that? [11:59:11] hm, what do you mean by "default user type is sysop" exactly? [12:01:30] well, when my friend signed upto my wiki, my first user, he was a sysop [12:02:25] 03(CLOSED) Make newpage patrolling available to autoconfirmed users on enwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12007 (10stevend811) [12:02:51] 03(mod) Make newpage patrolling available to autoconfirmed users on enwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12007 (10stevend811) [12:09:16] the first user is a crat/sysop [12:09:26] you set the username on installation, remember? [12:27:23] Hi all! [13:04:08] 03siebrand * r27750 10/trunk/extensions/AdvancedRandom/ (3 files): [13:04:08] * add i18n file [13:04:08] * update code (thanks to Niklas) [13:04:08] * removed trailing whitespace [13:04:08] * add Dutch translation [13:12:58] 03siebrand * r27751 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for AdvancedRandom and AssertEdit [13:35:22] 03siebrand * r27752 10/trunk/extensions/Review/ (Review.i18n.php Review.php language/): [13:35:22] * change message loading [13:35:22] * put messages in one i18n file [13:42:35] 03mkroetzsch * r27753 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Do not flush script-includes buffer when running subparsers. [13:45:09] hello [13:46:10] how do i change the number of headlines to show a table of content??? Actually it's more than 3, i'd like to have it to 2 [13:46:45] it's hardcoded in Parser.php, i'm afraid. [13:46:53] (that sucks, yes) [13:47:02] (new parser code is upcomming, i hear) [13:47:09] ok [13:47:16] so i could change it in parser.php [13:47:22] let me check this then :) [14:10:15] re [14:16:07] Tuxbublin1: note you can force a table of contents to appear for a page by including a keyword [14:21:54] tinus_: ah?? [14:23:45] tinus_: what's the keywork ?? :) [14:28:45] 03siebrand * r27754 10/trunk/extensions/Watchers/ (Watchers.i18n.php Watchers.php language/): [14:28:45] * change message loading [14:28:45] * put messages in one i18n file [14:28:45] * removed trailing whitespace [14:28:45] * add i18n for special page name [14:37:00] __FORCETOC__ << tinus_ thx ;) [14:38:39] 03siebrand * r27755 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for Review and Watchers [14:56:03] hi brion. I modified my link colouring patch so that it requires only one DB request/page. do you have time to look at it? [14:56:17] I also got rid of magic numbers [14:56:28] ooh [14:56:44] 03(mod) Create Finnish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12052 (10attel0) [14:56:48] brion: http://rafb.net/p/8wBc9n54.html [14:59:40] + $class = htmlspecialchars( $class ); [14:59:42] + $r = ($class != '') ? ' class="'.$class.'"' : ''; [15:00:09] I also moved the page_len<->threshold comparison into Linker.php, but I am not sure if that is what you want [15:00:11] maybe if( $class != '') $r .= ' class="' . htmlspecialchars($class) . '"'; [15:00:25] indeed... [15:02:08] I think it makes more sense to have this comparison in one single place [15:02:44] hmm, is 'colour' already used extensively? [15:03:45] currently it is a mixture of magic numbers (which you bashed me about) and css classes, eg 'default, 'new', and also 'yes' which means 'new' [15:04:11] well we don't want to stick a 'default' class everywhere [15:04:26] no, 'default' means '' [15:04:33] hmmmm [15:04:34] I can replace it everywhere [15:04:41] I let it that way for clarity [15:04:43] maybe it would be simpler to just use the desired class :) [15:04:49] ok [15:05:59] the important point, I guess, is about the hook : it is now outside the loop, and the extension does one single DB call [15:06:20] I was wondering if you would be willing to accept this [15:06:49] 03(mod) Broken tag hooks in new PP - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12056 summary; +comment (10tstarling) [15:07:37] sounds reasonable :) [15:07:46] ok thanks [15:08:38] another question is whether it is ok to have the getLinkColour function in Linker.php [15:08:47] Hello [15:08:48] it is called twice from Parser.php [15:08:57] and once from Linker.php [15:08:59] seems like the right place for now i guess [15:09:06] all right [15:09:21] I will replace 'default' with '' [15:11:29] brion: also, I do not understand why makeSizeLinkObj exists [15:11:47] apparently it is used only to display categories [15:12:17] but for that the stub colouring does not seem to apply, afaict [15:12:31] *shrugz* [15:12:33] well, not sure about that. I did not touch it [15:12:46] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Unusedimagestext is not wikified - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (wiki) [15:13:33] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Unusedimagestext is not wikified - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 (10wiki) [15:20:08] Hello [15:23:39] 03(FIXED) opening pages to public view on il.wikimedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11639 +comment (10tstarling) [15:23:41] 03catrope * r27756 10/trunk/extensions/EditOwn/EditOwn.php: EditOwn: Fixing PHP warning when $wgEditOwnExcludedNamespaces is not set or not an array [15:29:15] hey [15:29:20] can someone help me? [15:29:27] ive got a question about mediawiki [15:29:32] Me too :D [15:29:35] Do you know where i can found an addon or plugin for add a process of workflow for validate the update of message or add ? [15:29:47] !askl | bango [15:29:52] !ask | bango [15:29:52] bango: Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc [15:31:05] how do i create new title object when i have fullpagename only (and don't know if it contains namespace/interwiki or not) [15:31:57] how can i to activate that pictures are allowed on my mediawiki so that everyone can use html hits for linking pictures [15:34:22] ? [15:36:49] bango: now wait until somebody who knows the answer will read it and answer it. it may take a while so stay tuned ;-) [15:37:03] brion: around line 4539 in Parser.php: if ( empty( $colours[$pdbk] ) ) [15:37:05] Danny_B: Title::newFromText($blah) [15:37:17] so 'default' is needed instead of '' [15:37:28] ThomasV: offhand that might need a change to !isset() [15:37:35] ok [15:37:49] brion: thx, i was reading the code, but wasn't sure about this one [15:40:43] do you want to allow inline pictures from another site, or do you want to allow uploads on your own site? [15:40:52] bango? [15:41:42] inline pictures from other sites [15:41:52] so that user can link them [15:42:05] so that you can see the picture in the text on mywikimedia [15:43:15] 03nikerabbit * r27757 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialWatchlist.php): * The number of watching users in watchlists was always reported as 1 [15:43:34] bango: there is a setting for that [15:44:05] where? [15:44:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowExternalImages [15:44:21] this is the html tag. [15:44:36] and i want that this will work on my wikimedia [15:46:23] the syntax is that you just need to type the URL [15:48:22] ok [15:49:37] but it wont show the picture [15:49:45] there is only a link to the picture [15:50:53] ok it works :) [15:50:56] thanks [15:51:04] 03nikerabbit * r27758 10/trunk/extensions/EditOwn/EditOwn.php: Variables must be always initialized to prevent security issues when register_globals is on. Users can still customize the variable in localsettings. [15:54:31] 03thomasv * r27759 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Linker.php includes/Parser.php): [15:54:31] * got rid of magic codes for colours.* added hook for link recolouring by extensions* merged redundant stub tests in one single function, getLinkColour (Linker.php) [15:54:31] * deprecated makeStubLink and makeStubLinkObj [15:56:48] 03thomasv * r27760 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: modified naming conventions; merged DB requests for link colours [15:59:00] Do you know where i can found an addon or plugin for add a process of workflow for validate the update of message or add ? [15:59:16] huh? [16:00:29] When the user create a new article [16:00:55] could I add an addon for validate by a mail of moderator the article ? [16:01:38] + makeColouredLinkObj( $nt, 'stub', $text, $query, $trail, $prefix ); [16:01:55] $this-> perhaps? [16:03:20] ThomasV: ? [16:04:21] Nikerabbit: oh yes, I forgot that one [16:05:07] 03siebrand * r27761 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (Lqt.i18n.php LqtPages.php): [16:05:07] * change message loading [16:05:07] * i18n file format to $messages [16:05:07] Remark: many messages are still hard coded. [16:07:40] Hallo [16:08:22] Could you tell me how to set an anchor in a dokument to which I can link with [[#target|text]] ? [16:08:24] cream: there is an option to be notified by email when a page is modified [16:09:55] ThomasV, I have that if an user create a post, this post is not put in the wiki, but is waiting a validation from a moderator [16:10:03] TigerDuck: . [16:10:11] thanks [16:10:13] Welcome. [16:10:53] cream: maybe FlaggedRevs ? (it is an extension) [16:11:48] ThomasV, do you have the homepage of this extension ? [16:13:51] works perfectly [16:13:56] bye [16:13:56] 03siebrand * r27763 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for LiquidThreads [16:14:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs [16:14:53] It's don't wait some validation, just show a message no ? [16:15:06] cream: I do not know. ask the authors [16:15:22] or try it :-) [16:15:26] Ok, thanks ThomasV i'll try [16:21:40] *electron kicks CIA-1 [16:21:48] *electron kicks CIA-37 [16:21:49] ow [16:21:53] hmm [16:28:57] 03(NEW) Add hook BeforePageDisplay to all skins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (ais523) [16:31:48] electron: ? [16:33:45] http://leuksman.com/log/2007/11/22/random-tests/ for those interested :) [16:37:50] Nikerabbit: CIA is borken in my channel :( [16:38:06] electron: not here :o [16:38:52] :( [16:39:44] yeah [16:45:44] is there any other way how to get user skin name than $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName() ? [16:45:52] http://www.taptheplanet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [16:45:55] help!!!! [16:45:56] :) [16:46:35] the docs page on Short URLs is wrong, and I can't get it to work [16:47:45] are there any clever people here who can help? [16:48:44] 03(NEW) Add a "+" click feature to show supercategories above a given category - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12065 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (folengo) [16:50:55] Does mediawiki support wikipedia style referencing with the reference tags, out of the box? [16:51:29] nah, you need the Cite extension for that [16:56:09] Jack_Phoenix, excellent, thanks [16:56:17] np, have fun :) [16:58:43] I ame new to MediaWiki, how do i get to admin page that the root user use? [17:10:30] Should you be able to link to other external wikis like Wikipedia, Mediacommons, Mediawiki, etc. like so [[wikipedia:Whatever_Article_Here]]? [17:13:57] More specifically, do you need an extension to enable that behaviour, or should it be supported out of the box? I can't seem to get it to work. [17:15:38] It's in the core software. [17:15:48] Probably it needs to be configured somehow, I've never tried. [17:16:40] Simetrical, thanks. I am trying to find the specific configuration option or variable, as I don't have access to the settings, so I have to point the admin (my friend) where to make changes if I want them to happen. [17:17:38] I have installed MediaWiki on my webpage http://nor-it.net/extra/wiki/index.php?title=Hovedside (Page is in norweigan) But i cant find any page that admin ore a superuser can log on to, is it any one hwo knows to accses this type of page? [17:18:12] jmlane: it's the interwiki table in the database, not a configuration setting [17:18:28] Hi, I am currently studying the layout of wikipedia's database for a school work, and I wonder why the user options are stored as CSV in a blob, instead of using a dedicated table [17:18:46] ialex, thanks! [17:19:45] storm, there is no control panel in MediaWiki (yet). Changing the configuration is done mainly by editing LocalSettings.php. You can do things like block users through individual special pages, like Special:Blockip in that case. [17:21:03] lrbabe: with on field per option ? [17:21:14] !interwiki [17:21:14] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki [17:21:23] *Simetrical looks at that [17:22:27] simetrical: thanks thats all i need to know, but it should be a simple page for amature users like me [17:22:31] ialex: yes, an association table like | user_id | option_id | [17:22:57] storm, MediaWiki is really made for Wikipedia, so nobody's bothered to make it easy for the administrators. [17:23:28] hehe [17:23:39] !interwiki | ialex [17:23:39] ialex : Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wiktionary, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking [17:24:39] Simetrical: i should know how it works ^^ [17:25:07] Dammit. [17:25:13] I was talking to the wrong person. [17:25:24] !interwiki | jmlane [17:25:24] jmlane : Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wiktionary, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking [17:25:30] ah [17:26:07] any answer to my question ialex ? [17:26:13] ialex, Simetrical, thanks guys. [17:26:32] I am new to wikis, so I am just trying to figure out how MediaWiki works [17:26:45] There is a lot of cool features, that is for sure [17:26:54] lrbabe: like watchlist ? [17:27:08] lrbabe, we could do an associative table, but I guess it was decided that we didn't want to query based on user options so there was no point, or something like that. [17:27:15] lrbabe, probably domas would know the exact reason. [17:27:25] Could be it's an old historical thing that nobody ever bothered to change. [17:27:36] exact reason: table was badly designed [17:28:02] Hard to explain to my teacher... ;) [17:28:15] ^^ [17:28:19] What, "it's badly designed" is hard to explain? [17:28:25] There are a lot more bad designs than good ones. [17:30:31] what? [17:30:33] where me? [17:30:39] why me [17:30:42] here [17:30:46] domas, you're the database person! [17:30:48] we use .cdb files [17:30:51] for interwiki [17:30:52] no database [17:30:53] muhahahaha. [17:30:54] :) [17:30:58] domas : I am currently studying the layout of wikipedia's database for a school work, and I wonder why the user options are stored as CSV in a blob, instead of using a dedicated table [17:31:05] domas, do you know why we store the user options as a blob and not an associative table? [17:31:12] lrbabe: CSV? thought they're serialized there [17:31:21] It's newline-delimited plaintext, I think. [17:31:27] ah [17:31:32] because someone did so, then :) [17:31:45] on the other hand, separate table = much more overhead [17:31:52] ok, CSV or anything else, but why not an association table ? [17:31:52] as always all options are fetched anyway [17:32:04] ok [17:44:32] Hello! :-) I hvae a question about MediaWiki. Can anyone help me? [17:45:06] QuestionOne, I think not, but anyone will ask you to make the question and wait for someone that knows the answer.. [17:47:12] !ask | QuestionOne [17:47:12] QuestionOne : Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc [17:48:21] Well! I'll try to ask! So... I have lates installed version of MediaWIki. I already have some pages and I need to restricr access to view this pages to some user! (Sorry... My English is not so good). So... I read that I need to install some extension to enable this funcion. [17:48:45] !access | QuestionOne [17:48:45] QuestionOne: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [17:49:10] Can anyone say name of extension that allow me to do this? [17:49:17] Or mb link? [17:49:58] QuestionOne, see mwbot's response. [17:50:13] The second link might be helpful. [17:52:39] I already read about it and there nothing helpfull. [17:53:39] QuestionOne, what is it you want to do, then? [17:56:30] I what to protect some page from viewing of some users. [17:56:33] Not editing. [17:56:44] From registered users. [17:56:53] The preventing access page tells you about that. [17:57:12] !lockdown | QuestionOne [17:57:12] QuestionOne : an extension for prevention of read or write acess by namespacd and limit access to special pages. For more information see http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown and for more information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [17:57:20] That can work, apparently. [17:57:23] QuestionOne, Simetrical is right, I just read about that not five minutes ago [17:58:09] Thanks! BB! [17:58:13] GL & HF [17:58:32] "BB"? [18:09:40] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoconfirmCount to 20 for English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10864 +comment (10stevend811) [18:20:33] WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! [18:20:35] WRAARRRR!!! I has the Cookies Tooo! WRAARRRR!!! [18:20:39] WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! [18:20:56] 03(NEW) please create appendix ns on oc.wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12066 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (a9502784) [18:22:20] hey, can anyone help me get rid of the '/index.php/' in URLs? [18:22:36] the instructions on the Short URLs page in the wiki docs don't work [18:25:58] Is it possible to 'sync' templates from an external wiki to your own, e.g.: I like Wikipedia:Template:Quote and want users on my wiki to have that functionality [18:28:01] jmlane: you can import it [18:28:58] ialex, I won't benefit from the revisions made to the original like that though. I am just wondering if it possible to use templates from external wikis? [18:33:40] jmlane: interwiki transclusion exists, set $wgEnableScaryTranscluding to true in localsettings.php and then go to into the database, then in the interwiki table and put 1 in the field iw_trans for the interwiki prefix you want to able to transclude [18:34:27] but i don't know if it works this kind of use [18:35:09] ialex, hmm, indeed. I don't know if I like the sounds of "$wgEnableScaryTranscluding" though. :-P [18:37:41] That's the point of the name. \o/ [18:37:46] Really it means "interwiki transcluding". [18:38:14] I think it just tries to do an HTTP request from the target wiki every time it needs the source. [18:38:20] But it still won't update properly, because of caching. [18:45:50] if you want to use this as a template, you have to put raw: before the template's name [18:47:02] 03(mod) Create Finnish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12052 (10str4nd) [18:48:19] 03(mod) Create Finnish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12052 (10str4nd) [18:49:16] can I, as admin, lock pages on a mediawiki so no-one else can edit them? [18:50:04] Magnus2: you can protect then so that only admins can edit them (by default) [18:50:16] *tem [18:50:25] erg... them [18:50:36] aaaah, found it, ta [18:52:27] thanks ialex [18:52:38] is there an easy way to put breadcrumbs at the top of each page [18:52:45] I tend to build my sites in a hierarchy [18:53:06] in fact, are there ways to automatically build indexes? [19:01:53] 03(VERIFIED) Split patrolling into new page patrolling and recent changes patrolling - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1405 (10stevend811) [19:10:36] somebody made some change that messages no longer go through sanitizer therefore lot of invalid pages popped up [19:24:58] Hello, is there a special extension to include a sandbox in a wiki ? [19:30:00] Houka: what do you mean by sandbox? wikis usually have their own page called Project:Sandbox for testing and playing [19:34:09] So if I make a ref to [[mywiki:Sandbox]] it means the content will not be save in database ? [19:34:47] and is the conten t cleared automatically ? [19:34:59] it's like any page [19:35:56] So my question was not clear enough.. How to create a sandbox which is often cleared (nothing saved in db) [19:36:33] quap quap quap [19:36:36] oops [19:37:12] how long it takes to new interwiki prefix become active on all wikis? [19:39:51] Danny_B: a shell user has to run a script manually... [19:40:55] Danny_B: and you know what "manually" means :/ there is a bug open for this too [19:41:43] weird. i thought if somebody on meta adds it, it propagates within 24 hrs :-/ [19:43:12] Houka: also [[Special:Expandtemplates]] can be used as some kind of sandbox. and this page isn't saved in db [19:43:36] Danny_B: dreamings.... [19:47:13] thank you DAnny_B [20:11:53] röääär [20:13:37] hi [20:15:49] hey, how can i activate that, my standart pages like mainpage and info page canonly changed by myself and not by the users? [20:17:06] bango: a whole namespace or wiki or only some pages ? [20:17:33] only some pages [20:17:44] bango, use protection. [20:17:46] !protection [20:17:55] how? [20:18:23] bango, if you're logged in as an administrator, you should see a button at the top of the page, "protect". [20:18:38] bango, it will be next to "article", "discussion", "edit", and so on. [20:20:05] is the admin account, the passwort and the name which i used for istalling my mediawiki on the server? [20:20:36] bango: the wiki user, not the one for the database [20:21:48] yeah, but how can i create an admin account? [20:22:39] bango: there as createandpromote.php script or something like this in the /maintenance folder [20:23:46] ok i will search it. [20:24:37] createAndPromote.php [20:24:52] but you have to run from the command line [20:26:17] ok [20:26:22] now i have to fill in the gaps ? [20:27:37] Hello [20:27:52] bango: ? [20:28:12] yes? [20:28:38] bango: what do you mean by "fill in the gaps" ? [20:30:18] i think i have it :D [20:30:20] thanks :) [20:30:42] Hi everyone! [20:30:57] Please tell me where I can read mediawiki table descriptions. [20:31:14] I want to know whenever I can drop objectcache with no consequences [20:31:23] Drop and recreate, that is [20:32:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [20:34:06] Yeah, thanx, but it say nothing about whenever this table is caching only [20:34:28] Or contains some data (it name suggests former, I know) [20:37:43] "For a few generic cache operations if not using Memcached" in tables.sql [20:38:47] ilyak_, yes, you can for instance truncate it. [20:38:56] It will just be repopulated (if it's used at all). [20:40:49] 03thomasv * r27764 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: fix for pages with several categories [20:50:44] Simetrical: Yeah, thanx, I've dropped and recreated it [21:05:48] hi [21:06:28] I have a slight problem with mediawiki, me and my team we write a software specification, and I don't like how mediawiki formats the text [21:08:02] in TOC I have paragraphs, like '1' and '1.1' and in the text 1.1 has no indent over 1 [21:08:14] how can I make the indent? so that the text can be better readable [21:08:44] like I have the indent in word :D [21:19:19] hihh: Hack the source. [21:22:48] No, CSS will work. [21:22:57] *Simetrical frowns slightly at electron [21:23:22] :( [21:23:39] Actually, it *is* indented, isn't it? [21:24:05] #toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 2em; } [21:24:25] hihh, could you link to your wiki? By default, it should be indented. Or do I not understand you? [21:24:25] hey where can i find an tutiral of creating an admin account on my wikimedia? [21:24:46] bango, an admin account is normally created by default when you install the software. [21:25:27] yes but i didnt create it [21:25:29] hi [21:25:30] we do not figure out how to add http://pastey.net/77820 to http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [21:25:30] it just displays as text [21:25:30] :) [21:25:35] when i was istalling the software :/ [21:25:42] any help? [21:26:02] oh, lt.wikipedia.org [21:26:21] bango, create an account, and run the following SQL query: INSERT INTO user_groups(ug_user, ug_group) SELECT user_id, 'bureaucrat' FROM user WHERE user_name='My admin account'; [21:26:49] bango, where 'My admin account' is the name of the account you want to promote. Then go to Special:Userrights on the wiki to make yourself a sysop and do any other permissions changes you want. [21:28:22] zaliavos1, it displays as text on the page itself. You need to press Ctrl-F5 for it to start working as JavaScript. [21:28:27] ok i will try it [21:29:46] it does not [21:29:53] so shoul i purge chashe [21:30:06] or the one who uploads [21:30:39] if i purge nothing happes [21:30:41] happens [21:30:54] zaliavos1, first it needs to be added. It was removed, so of course it won't work. [21:31:07] zaliavos1, then anyone who wants to use it needs to purge their own cache with Ctrl-F5. [21:31:27] zaliavos1, then it needs to actually be used somewhere. I think you need to add a class to the tables you want to be collapsible. [21:31:45] it is [21:31:59] it was move because it was not working [21:32:01] :() [21:32:56] Well, then the problem is either with the JavaScript or the way you're trying to use it. It's not a MediaWiki problem, unless you see that the script actually isn't being served. [21:32:57] it will reapear soon [21:33:56] http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Navbox/core [21:37:03] and this template looks like http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojas:Zaliavos/vaistaitemp [21:37:11] incomplete [21:37:39] zaliavos1, it doesn't help to show me what things look like without the script included. [21:39:08] oh, it is in progress now, doesnt appear so soon it seem [21:39:11] plz wait [21:40:04] http://lt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&action=history [21:40:06] It hasn't been added. [21:40:34] admin has rejected his last change [21:41:30] some misunderstanding [21:45:06] done [21:45:12] please see again [21:47:25] !seen Simetrical [21:47:25] You don't have permission to do that. [21:47:34] zaliavos1, MediaWiki is working fine. [21:47:41] The question is whether the JavaScript is. [21:48:05] ir works on enwiki [21:48:07] It seems not. [21:48:14] Maybe ask someone who's more familiar with it. [21:48:24] I know something about MediaWiki, but not anything about this collapsible tables script. [21:48:26] man [21:48:41] anyone? [21:48:48] CHeck enwikis common.css, common.js, as well as monobook.js etc. [21:48:52] but is it added ok? [21:48:54] It has quite a few helper functions installed [21:49:22] Is the site with the problem online? I could check it out [21:49:57] zaliavos1, yes. [21:50:02] TheFearow, lt.wikipedia.org [21:50:41] it is [21:51:48] Ill check it out. Which pages have the not-workging script? [21:52:06] http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naudotojas:Zaliavos/vaistaitemp [21:52:13] or more specifiacaly [21:52:30] http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Navbox/core [21:52:32] What part isnt working? [21:52:51] the collapsable [21:53:07]