[00:12:26] <setuid>	I still can't seem to figure out how to stop mw from displaying the interwiki language links at the bottom of each article
[00:12:33] <setuid>	$wgHideInterlanguageLinks = 1; doesn't work 
[00:12:43] <setuid>	$this->data['language_urls'] = false; doesn't work 
[00:41:39] <setuid>	Hrm, now I've got a weird problem with texml
[00:41:41] <setuid>	er, texvc
[00:42:03] <setuid>	I'm seeing: r={{h^2}\over{\mu}}{{1}\over{1+e}}
[00:42:11] <setuid>	Instead of the rendered mathml pngs
[00:42:30] <setuid>	Anyone know what the issue is? This page doesn't describe it: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_math_errors
[00:43:22] <Simetrical>	Link?
[00:43:30] <Simetrical>	MathML shouldn't be involved, BTW, at least not if PNGs are.
[00:43:41] <setuid>	It's not exposed, let me punch a hole through
[00:46:44] <setuid>	http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/index.php/Centripetal_force
[00:46:45] <setuid>	Try that
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	03rainman * r27766 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (20 files in 9 dirs): 
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	Some final highlighting stuff:
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	* templates preprocess hack
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	* more boost for phrases found within snippets
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	* url encode response
[00:46:57] <CIA-37>	* consistent handling of the apostrophe in text
[00:47:14] <Simetrical>	setuid, well, the image isn't generated, so it's showing the alt text.
[00:47:18] <setuid>	hrm, I think I see the issue... 
[00:47:26] <setuid>	mediawiki/math/6/c/0/6c05820d4f171f76e0c2016131266132.png HTTP/1.1" 404 
[00:47:30] <Simetrical>	src="/var/www/sites/mediawiki/math/a/b/b/abbd82db579b8b82e34b91ec1940aef0.png"
[00:47:30] <setuid>	It's throwing 404's 
[00:47:32] <Simetrical>	That's not gonna work.
[00:47:44] <setuid>	That's how it does it by default
[00:47:46] <setuid>	I didn't set that
[00:47:46] <Simetrical>	Unless web root is filesystem root.
[00:48:07] <setuid>	I have: 
[00:48:09] <setuid>	$wgMathPath         = "$IP/math";
[00:48:09] <setuid>	$wgMathDirectory    = "$IP/math";
[00:48:09] <setuid>	$wgTmpDirectory     = "/tmp";       
[00:48:41] <Simetrical>	http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/math/3/a/7/3a7e99e13148827bd5981a54f42e1be2.png
[00:48:48] <Simetrical>	The image exists, just the path is set up wrong.
[00:49:19] <Simetrical>	I'm not sure where to change it, I don't have math configured on either of my wikis.
[00:49:20] <setuid>	hrmph, nothing I can set will get it working, apparently
[00:49:24] <setuid>	relative path, absolute path, 
[00:49:52] <setuid>	ah, now iut works
[00:49:58] <setuid>	I had to take _out_ the wgMath bits
[00:50:34] <setuid>	I still can't figure out how to gut the interwiki language links out, without writing another custom parser to regex them out at display time
[00:50:43] <setuid>	Any hints there? 
[00:51:26] <Simetrical>	I guess you could just tweak the output bits in the skin, having them output nothing instead of the interwiki link.
[00:51:39] <setuid>	I did, the Monobook.php is VERY gutted now
[00:51:46] <Simetrical>	Maybe if you added suitable values to the interwiki table (empty strings? nulls?) it would be clever enough to not output them.
[00:51:58] <Simetrical>	Or if not, it could be made so.
[00:52:00] <setuid>	I'd rather not remove them from the tables/page content
[00:52:14] <setuid>	In case I need them later on, I just don't want them displayed for the moment
[00:52:53] <setuid>	$this->data['language_urls'] = false; should do it
[00:52:55] <setuid>	but it doesn't
[00:52:56] <setuid>	;( 
[00:54:25] <Simetrical>	Maybe you're setting it too early and it's being overwritten?
[00:54:44] <setuid>	I set it right after wfSuppressWarnings()_
[00:54:59] <setuid>	I also tried setting it as the last item in initPage() 
[00:55:01] <setuid>	Same thing
[00:55:29] <setuid>	$wgHideInterlanguageLinks = 1; # also ignored, apparently
[00:56:23] <Simetrical>	Well, good luck.  I'm off to bed.
[00:56:23] <setuid>	$wgHideInterlanguageLinks = true; # set in DefaultSettings.php, also ignored
[00:56:26] <setuid>	Thanks 
[01:07:41] <setuid>	Ah, $wgHideInterlanguageLinks only works on the sidebar, not the footer
[01:09:58] <setuid>	This also does not work: <noinclude><?php $this->html('bodytext') ?></noinclude>
[01:12:37] <setuid>	$wgInterwikiMagic = false; as described here -> (http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/109572) also fails
[02:04:49] <setuid>	grr... editing out the whole language_urls() array in includes/SkinTemplate.php doesn't fix it either
[02:06:33] <setuid>	man this is maddening
[02:52:00] *MartinCleaver 	reads FAQ
[02:53:05] <MartinCleaver>	ok - I want to embed a piece of php code in the page. Not execute it, just display it
[02:53:18] <MartinCleaver>	I don't have control over the mediawiki install
[02:53:34] <MartinCleaver>	what do I do to cut & paste it in?
[02:54:38] <MartinCleaver>	I tried prefixing every line with a space. It did nto work, and is too fiddly anyway
[02:54:55] <MartinCleaver>	The page I am editing is here: http://codex.wordpress.org/wp-cron-feedwordpress.php
[02:55:25] <MartinCleaver>	I tried nowiki
[02:55:29] <MartinCleaver>	I tried noformat
[02:55:49] <MartinCleaver>	http://www.bloomingpedia.org/wiki/Bloomingpedia:Wiki_markup_examples says     preformatted text is done with
[02:55:49] <MartinCleaver>	  a space at the
[02:55:49] <MartinCleaver>	  beginning of the line
[02:56:23] <MartinCleaver>	says the same on  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting
[02:56:50] <MartinCleaver>	duh. code
[02:59:04] <MartinCleaver>	Please continue to ignore me, for being an idiot
[02:59:27] <MartinCleaver>	errr.
[02:59:47] *MartinCleaver 	wonders "why is the code box broken up?"
[03:33:49] <MartinCleaver>	damn. Must I prefix every line even when I use <code> ?
[03:36:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create two new namespaces for the Arabic Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (meno25wiki)
[03:44:10] <MartinCleaver>	this code directive looks really broken
[03:44:40] <MartinCleaver>	how can I tell whether a site is out of date with mediawiki release?
[03:45:38] <TimStarling>	you probably want <pre>, or a syntax highlighting extension
[03:46:04] <MartinCleaver>	pre doesn't work
[03:46:26] <MartinCleaver>	what syntax hightlighting plugins might be installed? How can I tell?
[03:46:32] <TimStarling>	it makes a <pre> block
[03:46:42] <TimStarling>	in what way is it not working?
[03:47:04] <MartinCleaver>	Take a look at http://codex.wordpress.org/mrjc-feedwordpress-filters.php
[03:47:44] <TimStarling>	what about it?
[03:48:18] <MartinCleaver>	whenever there is a blank line in the code the browser starts another scroll section
[03:49:21] <TimStarling>	that's with <code>, not <pre>
[03:49:36] <TimStarling>	that's with <code>, not <pre>
[03:49:58] <MartinCleave1>	<pre> did nothing at all
[03:50:03] <MartinCleave1>	It showed "pre"
[03:50:23] <MartinCleave1>	mind you, maybe I had it inside a nowiki at the time
[03:50:36] *MartinCleave1 	wonders what code is for, if not for code
[03:51:38] <TimStarling>	  print "</pre>";
[03:51:46] <TimStarling>	    //    print "<pre>";
[03:51:46] <TimStarling>	    //    print "Post category: ".$item['category'];
[03:51:46] <TimStarling>	    //    print "</pre>";
[03:51:47] <setuid>	Timmeh! 
[03:52:12] <TimStarling>	your code is littered with <pre> tags
[03:52:15] <setuid>	TimStarling, Who do I need to speak with about reuse/resale of the Wikipedia content in mobile format? 
[03:52:20] <TimStarling>	so a <pre> tag is hardly going to work, is it?
[03:52:24] <setuid>	I can't remember the person's name
[03:52:28] <MartinCleave1>	yeah, because I need them in the code
[03:52:46] <TimStarling>	setuid: if you want to pay someone, then you can talk to Vishal
[03:52:57] <setuid>	Vishal, that's the one
[03:52:57] <TimStarling>	try &lt;pre>
[03:53:11] <MartinCleave1>	oh, so I can't paste my code into pages?
[03:53:13] <setuid>	TimStarling, I'm happy to contribute a bulk of the earnings to the WMF... 
[03:53:41] *MartinCleave1 	is having a hard time convincing people to use the wiki as it is
[03:54:45] <TimStarling>	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox
[03:55:16] <TimStarling>	have you tried subversion? it's quite good for hosting code
[03:56:08] <MartinCleave1>	thanks, I know about svn
[03:56:58] <MartinCleave1>	doesn't help for the interaction model
[03:57:04] <MartinCleave1>	pff
[03:57:12] <setuid>	harumph! I've now run into the "missing" articles in enwiki, that were asserted before
[03:57:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) oversight log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12069 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (NavouWiki)
[03:58:49] <TimStarling>	SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi would work for you, as long as your code doesn't contain </source> as well
[03:59:17] <TimStarling>	obviously mediawiki needs some way to tell where the code ends
[04:00:17] <MartinCleave1>	sure, its like embedding mimetypes in email
[04:00:41] <MartinCleave1>	Can I tell whether SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi  is already installed?
[04:01:04] <TimStarling>	it's not
[04:01:09] <TimStarling>	http://codex.wordpress.org/Special:Version
[04:01:32] <TimStarling>	you have a version of mediawiki written in the dark ages
[04:01:43] <TimStarling>	back when there was only like 3 extensions
[04:03:22] <MartinCleave1>	Cool. Ok. Can I tell who maintains the server?
[04:05:23] <TimStarling>	not by any technical method, you just have to browse the site looking for contact details
[04:06:24] <TimStarling>	the history might help you: http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history&limit=500&offset=0
[04:27:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) oversight log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12069  +comment (10tstarling)
[04:33:32] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) oversight log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12069  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[04:36:53] <MartinCleave1>	Thanks TimStarling
[04:40:41] *MartinCleave1 	writes on http://codex.wordpress.org/User_talk:MichaelH
[05:23:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create two new namespaces for the Arabic Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12068   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[06:44:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) After Installation MyQL was blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (antgro)
[08:10:27] <_wooz>	lo
[08:26:02] <cream>	Hi, I search a plugin for validate all the message that I submit by a moderator, exist it ?
[08:29:00] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27767 10/trunk/phase3/ (16 files in 2 dirs): 
[08:29:00] <CIA-37>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[08:29:00] <CIA-37>	* ar, fo, fr, frp, hr, ie (new), is, kaa, kn, la, nl, qu, sco, stq, uz
[08:30:50] <kryptoz>	hi all
[08:31:02] <kryptoz>	I tried to install the poll.php (wikipoll)
[08:31:26] <kryptoz>	i did as it was said in the instructions .. but it doesnt work the way they claimed ..
[08:31:35] <kryptoz>	has anyone tried wiki poll before ?
[08:41:01] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27768 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: 
[08:41:01] <CIA-37>	Argh what a code. Underline setting "browser default" doesn't even work in monobook because it's forced to none. But in any case, let's not produce invalid css
[08:41:01] <CIA-37>	and throw ugly notices.
[08:41:43] <CIA-37>	03mkroetzsch * r27769 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php: 
[08:41:43] <CIA-37>	When creating result lists, check whether some results do not represent a current article (not normally
[08:41:43] <CIA-37>	possible, but happening in some cases related to DB imports and the like)
[08:42:13] <cream>	Hi, I search a plugin for validate all the message that I submit by a moderator, exist it ?
[08:49:45] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27770 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserlogin.php: * Always check for user input
[08:54:58] <cream>	I search a plugin for validate all the message that I submit by a moderator, exist it ?
[08:57:10] <Nikerabbit>	      1 PHP Warning:  parse_url(http://) [<a href='function.parse-url'>function.parse-url</a>]: Unable to parse URL in /var/www/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1954
[08:57:23] <FreeNom>	re
[08:57:28] <Nikerabbit>	there is many warnings that I don't know how to fix....
[09:08:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059  high->normal; summary; +comment (10mak)
[09:10:59] <Telemac>	Hello
[09:12:48] <Algo>	Bit of a technical question: When coding parser functions, is all input guaranteed to be UTF-8, or are other encodings possible?
[09:21:11] <Telemac>	What can be used to setup SSO on wiki family ? I'm trying openidenabled with extension but openidenabled is not "really easy" to install in FC4
[09:30:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059  (10mak)
[09:35:28] <Nikerabbit>	Algo: all input should be utf-8
[09:37:24] <Algo>	Should, or is?  I'm using PHP's preg_match /u flag, and the documentation says that it could fail completely if any non-UTF input is encountered.
[09:39:27] <Nikerabbit>	I'm not sure if it's guaranteed
[09:40:19] <_AtH>	Templates in MediaWiki 1.11.0 are not always expanding.  The same page can expand templater or just display them in {{}} form after few reloads.  How could I fix it?
[09:40:31] <_AtH>	* template
[09:41:14] <Algo>	_AtH: Are you calling a template from within itself?  If not, you'll have to clarify.
[09:42:09] <_AtH>	No, just call templates from normal pages.  I use Russian language to name pages, but even {{PLURAL}} fails often.
[09:42:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Moving pages should autoconfirmed: new users should not be allowed to move pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (a9502784)
[09:43:11] <Raymond_>	{{PLURAL}} is not a template, it's magic word
[09:44:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Moving pages should autoconfirmed: new users should not be allowed to move pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[09:44:35] <_AtH>	So magic words are also not working, at least not stable. :(
[09:45:13] <Algo>	How large are the pages that are failing?  You might be running up against a parser timeout.
[09:45:14] <_AtH>	I run mysqlcheck, but it show no errors in database.
[09:45:25] <_AtH>	Small pages, one-two screenfulls
[09:46:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Page moves should be throttled to say 1 per minute for non-admin users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454  +comment (10koneko)
[09:47:00] <_AtH>	Sometimes MediaWiki adds "?" character at the end of page or after template call.
[10:01:12] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27771 10/trunk/extensions/ (31 files in 31 dirs): 
[10:01:12] <CIA-37>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[10:01:12] <CIA-37>	* Fixes and additions to 31 extensions for ar, el, fr, gl, hr, hsb, ie, is, kn, nl, stq
[10:03:32] <Nikerabbit>	_AtH: didn't you were here few days back with the same problems?
[10:11:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Go-button property for namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4738  (10jayvdb)
[10:18:55] <Oberoten>	Hola. 
[10:19:13] <Oberoten>	Quick question about MediaWiki... Is there any way to add extra searchwords to an entered article?
[10:22:06] <Inez>	Hi
[10:22:43] <Oberoten>	G'morning. :)
[10:26:58] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27772 10/trunk/extensions/Postcomment/ (SpecialPostcomment.i18n.php SpecialPostcomment.php): 
[10:26:58] <CIA-37>	* put messages in i18n file
[10:26:58] <CIA-37>	* add 2 messages
[10:31:06] <_AtH>	Nikerabbit: Its my first, a fresh MediaWiki installation, one month old.  No backups.  I made my first mysqldump backup today.
[10:36:29] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Notice: unserialize() Error when using Postgres - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11292  +comment (10niccolo)
[10:39:07] <_AtH>	Another problem is that index.php doesn't always understand Unicode (Russian) page name.  Sometimes I need to reload page (with the same address) 3-4 times to get rid of "badtitletext" message.
[10:53:08] <_AtH>	I just disable the only extension, I had (CharInsert) -- but situation haven't changed.
[10:55:10] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27773 10/trunk/extensions/WhoIsWatching/ (3 files): 
[10:55:10] <CIA-37>	* put messages in i18n file
[10:55:10] <CIA-37>	* indentation fixes
[10:55:10] <CIA-37>	* bug fix
[10:55:36] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Notice: unserialize() Error when using Postgres - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11292  +comment (10niccolo)
[11:02:00] <_AtH>	Even {{SITENAME}} is displayed literally, without substination.  What .php file I must check for MediaWiki integrity?
[11:03:56] <Oberoten>	Hmmm... Started up my Wiki about a week ago. And since it is growing at a rapid pace I have to ask is there a simppler way to link in subpages etc than main/sub/sub ?
[11:04:03] <Oberoten>	... or moving them afterhand?
[11:27:26] <CIA-37>	03catrope * r27774 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php Title.php): Requiring suppressredirect right to suppress redirect creation
[11:28:35] <CIA-37>	03catrope * r27775 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Oh, and bots too
[11:32:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Page moves should be throttled to say 1 per minute for non-admin users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454  +comment (10a9502784)
[11:46:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change CSS so tab spacing is 'before edit' instead of ' after talk'. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571  summary; +comment (10wiki)
[11:48:07] <meithal>	hello
[11:48:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change CSS so tab spacing is 'before edit' instead of ' after talk'. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11571  -need-review  (10wiki)
[12:00:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) internationalization file for UserRightsNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[12:05:15] <CIA-37>	03wegge * r27776 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: Added/updated translations for da
[12:17:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) internationalization file for UserRightsNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12072  +comment (10bertrand.grondin)
[12:20:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) internationalization file for UserRightsNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12072  (10bertrand.grondin)
[12:21:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) internationalization file for UserRightsNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12072  +comment (10bertrand.grondin)
[12:28:25] <Danny_B>	is there any other way how to get user skin name than $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName() ?
[12:30:35] <_AtH>	How to enable error logging in MediaWiki 1.11.0?
[12:57:24] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Install DynamicPageList on the Wikimedia Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11963  +comment (10mrekavarga)
[12:57:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11112  +comment (10mrekavarga)
[13:00:30] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27777 10/trunk/extensions/UserRightsNotif/ (UserRightsNotif.i18n.php UserRightsNotif.php): 
[13:00:30] <CIA-37>	* adding i18n file (part from bugzilla:12072)
[13:00:30] <CIA-37>	* fixing description tag
[13:01:12] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) internationalization file for UserRightsNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12072  +comment (10siebrand)
[13:09:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11112  +comment (10mrekavarga)
[13:13:05] <CIA-37>	03catrope * r27778 10/branches/apiedit/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiDelete.php ApiMove.php ApiRollback.php ApiUnblock.php): (log message trimmed)
[13:13:05] <CIA-37>	apiedit:
[13:13:05] <CIA-37>	* Updating call to Article::generateReason() in ApiDelete
[13:13:05] <CIA-37>	* Adding check for suppressredirect permission in ApiMove
[13:13:05] <CIA-37>	* Removing obsolete Article::EDIT_FAILED check in ApiRollback
[13:13:06] <CIA-37>	* Adding check for Article::RATE_LIMITED in ApiRollback
[13:13:10] <CIA-37>	* Adding check for IPUnblockForm::UNBLOCK_BLOCKED_AS_RANGE in ApiUnblock
[13:15:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Undelete should have "select all" checkbox or " inverse selection" button - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10323  (10huji.huji)
[13:17:11] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27779 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): 
[13:17:11] <CIA-37>	* Add support for PostComment, UserRightsNotif, WhoIsWatching
[13:17:11] <CIA-37>	* Ignore a message in OggHandler
[13:27:59] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27780 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: ignore->optional
[13:41:24] <CIA-37>	03tstarling * r27781 10/trunk/fundcore/modules/fundcore_frontpage/ (content/storybox.inc fundcore_frontpage.module): Committing work in progress by David Strauss.
[13:43:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create Finnish Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12052  (10attel0)
[14:06:05] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27782 10/trunk/extensions/Blahtex/ (Blahtex.i18n.php Blahtex.php): 
[14:06:05] <CIA-37>	* adding i18n file
[14:06:05] <CIA-37>	* remove trailing whitespace
[14:06:22] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27783 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for Blahtex
[14:17:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) {{words}} and page titles (in Unicode) are unstable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12073 04CRIT; highest; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (admin)
[14:22:39] <setuid>	Is it possible to make it so that the 'action=edit' links for articles don't even appear? 
[14:22:51] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27784 10/trunk/extensions/Eval/ (SpecialEval.i18n.php SpecialEval.php): 
[14:22:51] <CIA-37>	* adding i18n file
[14:22:51] <CIA-37>	* remove trailing whitespace
[14:23:15] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27785 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for Eval
[14:23:37] <setuid>	I have: $wgDefaultUserOptions ['editsection'] = 0;
[14:23:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) {{words}} and page titles (in Unicode) are unstable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12073  04CRIT->normal; highest->normal (10tstarling)
[14:23:45] <setuid>	But that doesn't do it
[14:25:05] <TimStarling>	we should just remove the severity/priority fields for non-admins
[14:25:26] <TimStarling>	everyone thinks that if their wiki is broken, then that is blocker/highest
[14:25:57] <Nikerabbit>	there isn't any middle group between users and admins?
[14:25:58] <CIA-37>	03nikerabbit * r27786 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFi.php: * Updates
[14:26:11] <Duesentrieb>	Nikerabbit: autoconfirmed
[14:26:19] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: in bugzilla
[14:26:21] <Duesentrieb>	Nikerabbit: then emailconfirmed
[14:26:26] <Duesentrieb>	ah, oh :)
[14:26:53] <Nikerabbit>	like trusted users or developers :o
[14:27:22] <TimStarling>	setuid: you realise you can override it on a per-article basis, with __NOEDITSECTION__?
[14:27:38] <setuid>	TimStarling, No, and I can't go editing 5.8M articles on the fly ;) 
[14:27:46] <TimStarling>	just make everyone an admin
[14:28:02] <setuid>	There is no "everyone" ;) 
[14:28:10] <setuid>	http://projects.plkr.org/encycloplucker/
[14:28:13] <setuid>	^ that's what I"m doing 
[14:29:40] <TimStarling>	are you using an anonymous user?
[14:30:30] <Duesentrieb>	setuid: err... edit tab and section edit links are different things.
[14:30:39] <Duesentrieb>	sectionedit does not control the tab
[14:30:53] <Duesentrieb>	you can hide the tab using css, if you like
[14:30:55] <Duesentrieb>	simple enough
[14:31:05] <Duesentrieb>	or hack the skin code
[14:31:09] <TimStarling>	it looks like the editsection user option is ignored
[14:31:10] <setuid>	Duesentrieb, I don't want my crawler to find or follow any links that result in .*action=edit$
[14:31:37] <TimStarling>	well, that's a problem for your crawler
[14:31:54] <TimStarling>	not for mediawiki
[14:31:59] <setuid>	It's both
[14:32:12] <setuid>	I'm trying to find a way to make it so articles don't even appear with an edit link
[14:32:13] <Duesentrieb>	setuid: very simple: action=edit goes to a "ugly" url. ban all ugly urls using robots.txt
[14:32:33] <TimStarling>			if( !$wgUser->getOption( 'editsection' ) ) {
[14:32:33] <TimStarling>				$s .= ".editsection { display: none; }\n";
[14:32:33] <TimStarling>			}
[14:32:39] <Duesentrieb>	setuid: well, this isn't intended, because the result is not a wiki. you can do it by hacking the skin code.
[14:32:39] <TimStarling>	that's what editsection does
[14:32:41] <setuid>	That's css
[14:32:48] <setuid>	There is no css
[14:32:50] <Duesentrieb>	TimStarling: he also wants to gett rid of the tab.
[14:32:55] <setuid>	There are no tabs
[14:33:07] <setuid>	Think HTML 2.x or 3.x
[14:33:12] <setuid>	No tables, no css, no tabs
[14:33:21] <TimStarling>	I know, I'm telling you why it won't work
[14:33:25] <setuid>	Ok
[14:33:26] <Duesentrieb>	setuid: with "tab" i mean "link in the pagetools portlet".
[14:33:32] <Duesentrieb>	setuid: however they are shown for you.
[14:33:36] <setuid>	I ripped the portlets out of the skin already 
[14:33:48] <TimStarling>	what is generating the HTML?
[14:33:52] <setuid>	Your parser
[14:33:54] <Duesentrieb>	so now it *is* about the section edit links only?
[14:33:55] <TimStarling>	some local instance of mediawiki?
[14:34:00] <setuid>	TimStarling, yes
[14:34:12] <setuid>	local mw + 30gb local mediawiki db
[14:34:13] <TimStarling>	via a webserver, or command line?
[14:34:19] <setuid>	Apache
[14:34:47] <bango>	hey what is the standart link for creating a new article?
[14:35:19] <TimStarling>	ok, edit Article::outputWikiText()
[14:35:28] <TimStarling>	hmmm
[14:35:42] <TimStarling>	actually edit ParserOptions.php
[14:35:46] <Duesentrieb>	bango: there's no standard link. because it would encourage people to create orphan pages. the wiki way is: link, click, edit. but yes, this is off topic here. go to #mediawiki :)
[14:35:57] <TimStarling>			$this->mEditSection = true;
[14:35:57] <Duesentrieb>	err, ignore the last bit
[14:36:00] <TimStarling>	make that false
[14:36:02] <Duesentrieb>	i replied in #wikimedia-tech :)
[14:36:06] <Duesentrieb>	and copied the response
[14:36:20] *setuid 	tests
[14:36:27] <chmod007>	hehe
[14:36:31] <bango>	i want to create an button on my mainpage.. which says create an new article
[14:36:42] <Danny_B>	is there any other way how to get user skin name than $wgUser->getSkin()->getSkinName() ?
[14:37:24] <Nikerabbit>	what's wrong with that?
[14:37:34] <setuid>	TimStarling, nada... http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/index.php/Quick_index
[14:38:32] <Danny_B>	Nikerabbit: were you replying on me?
[14:38:44] <TimStarling>	setuid: what am I meant to be looking at here?
[14:39:04] <setuid>	TimStarling, It goes to an edit modality
[14:39:10] <setuid>	I want it to not do that
[14:39:17] <setuid>	The mobile versions of this don't support forms
[14:39:22] <TimStarling>	you mean the red link? a minute ago you were talking about section edit links
[14:39:37] <TimStarling>	you can deal with red links the same way I deal with them in dumpHTML.php
[14:39:42] <setuid>	Right, but clicking on it brings you to an edit form
[14:39:47] <TimStarling>	in fact, you could just use dumpHTML.php...
[14:39:58] <Duesentrieb>	bango: there's an extension for that. several, actually.
[14:39:59] <Danny_B>	bango: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox
[14:40:11] <TimStarling>	it has a skin that disables red links
[14:40:38] <setuid>	What exactly does dumpHTML.php do? 
[14:40:51] <bango>	thanks i will read it :)
[14:40:59] <TimStarling>	dumps the contents of a wiki to HTML, one file per page
[14:41:13] <TimStarling>	see skins/disabled/HTMLDump.php
[14:41:34] <TimStarling>	custom skin class with custom makeBrokenLinkObj()
[14:41:49] <setuid>	To use that, what would I set $wgDefaultSkin to? 
[14:41:52] <TimStarling>	links to non-existent articles only if they are categories
[14:42:02] <TimStarling>	htmldump
[14:42:44] <setuid>	hrm
[14:42:45] <setuid>	http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/index.php/Quick_index
[14:42:46] <TimStarling>	you would have to move it out of the disabled directory first though
[14:42:47] <setuid>	Doesn't seem to work 
[14:42:50] <setuid>	Right
[14:43:18] <setuid>	Ok, this is a little bit better
[14:43:25] <setuid>	Needs some gutting to remove all of those portlets
[14:48:34] <setuid>	Ok, a little better now: http://65.172.152.98/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/index.php/Quick_index
[14:49:34] <setuid>	I'm still trying to figure out the right preg_replace() for this: 
[14:49:43] <setuid>	<a href=
[14:49:43] <setuid>	"http://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orb%C4%ABta" class="extiw" title="lv:Orbīta">lv:Orbīta</a>
[14:49:48] <setuid>	i.e. an href broken over 2 lines
[14:54:55] <setuid>	TimStarling, What builds Quick_index? Where is that sourced from? 
[14:55:09] <setuid>	I have all of the bits in the db, but Quick_index is still an empty page/missing link
[15:11:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) creating internationalization files for MultiUpload extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12074 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[15:18:03] <CIA-37>	03raymond * r27787 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Updates German
[15:22:16] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27788 10/trunk/extensions/LookupUser/ (LookupUser.i18n.php LookupUser.php): 
[15:22:16] <CIA-37>	* put messages in i18n file
[15:22:16] <CIA-37>	* rewrite a bit
[15:22:44] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27789 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for LookupUser
[15:36:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Fix URL link in DefaultSettings.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12075 minor; low; MediaWiki: Documentation; (alex.emsenhuber)
[15:40:06] <nickless>	hi all
[15:40:32] <nickless>	in which file does media wiki athunticate the users?
[15:40:56] <nickless>	can anyone help?
[15:41:23] <nickless>	i need to know in which php file the athuntication happens
[15:41:25] <ialex>	nickless: includes/User.php
[15:41:37] <nickless>	thanks
[15:42:02] <nickless>	is there a single login script for both smf and mediawiki?
[15:42:16] <ialex>	smf ?
[15:42:50] <flyingparchment>	nickless: if you want to write a new authentication method, use AuthPlugin
[15:42:52] <nickless>	Single machine forums
[15:42:54] <flyingparchment>	don't touch the mediawiki code
[15:42:57] <CIA-37>	03raymond * r27790 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: * (bug 12075) Fix URL link in DefaultSettings.php
[15:43:17] <TimLaqua>	but... it's so pretty....
[15:43:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Fix URL link in DefaultSettings.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12075   +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[15:43:22] <nickless>	what us authplugin?
[15:44:06] <nickless>	is*
[15:45:39] <ialex>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin
[15:46:42] <nickless>	i managed to make the athentication to happen from the SMF database , however, i cannot figure how to make a single login
[15:47:44] <nickless>	can i use AuthPlugin to make an external login for mediawiki?
[15:47:52] <TimLaqua>	yeah
[15:48:00] <nickless>	is it possible?
[15:52:44] <TimLaqua>	yeah
[15:52:54] <TimLaqua>	that's how all the external auth extensions are built.
[15:56:31] <jamasi>	Is it a good idea to use off-site SQUID Caches to improve the response time and the thoughput of a mediawiki?
[15:57:03] <jamasi>	and if yes. what possible caveats are there?
[16:00:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DynamicPageList - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11112  (10robin_1273)
[16:01:19] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) After Installation MyQL was blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[16:12:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) duplicate interwikilink pointing to the wrong wikipedia page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12076 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bkampmann)
[16:19:06] <AzaTht>	and yea, bug 5678 isn't fixed yet
[16:20:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) duplicate interwikilink pointing to the wrong wikipedia page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12076  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[16:21:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) duplicate interwikilink pointing to the wrong wikipedia page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12076  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:30:02] <mr_dd>	hello guys
[16:31:28] <mr_dd>	i've a question - i have installed the mediawiki software now - but how to make a NEW article - i can not find anything to make one
[16:31:56] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) After Installation MyQL was blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070  +comment (10tstarling)
[16:33:10] <Duesentrieb>	mr_dd: edit the main page, create a link to the new page, save it, click the red link, add content.
[16:33:29] <Duesentrieb>	mr_dd: this is the wiki way: don't create orphan pages. add links, then add content.
[16:34:42] <Duesentrieb>	mr_dd: you can, of course, also enter the name of a non-existing page into the search box and hit enter. and then click "edit" on the page it takes you to. but that does create an orphan, and you'll have to create links to it later
[16:34:50] <Duesentrieb>	so, again: link first, then create.
[16:35:13] <Duesentrieb>	anyway.... afk
[16:44:23] <ElvanorAtWork>	Is it possible to have multiple wikis, all served by one mediawiki directory?
[16:44:31] <Nikerabbit>	yes
[16:44:36] <ElvanorAtWork>	How?
[16:44:41] <ElvanorAtWork>	I basically want to have several wikis, each with their own style and DB
[16:44:55] <ElvanorAtWork>	But I want to update only one installation when I update mediawiki code
[16:45:22] <Nikerabbit>	it's up to you how do you want to do it.. I don't know if there is any examples how to do it
[16:45:43] <ElvanorAtWork>	Well, I am not even sure it is possible
[16:45:57] <ElvanorAtWork>	Because let's say I have wiki1.mysite.com and wiki2.mysite.com
[16:46:22] <ElvanorAtWork>	If I set wiki1 and wiki2 apache root directory to the mediawiki install, how will it differentiate between the two installs?
[16:46:23] <Simetrical>	ElvanorAtWork, it's perfectly possible to do it.  All the Wikipedias and their sister sites run off one copy of MediaWiki files.
[16:46:38] <Simetrical>	(Which, granted, is synced to lots of different Apaches, but it's still all copied from one master file.)
[16:47:00] <ElvanorAtWork>	Yeah, but all wikipedias site share the same skin / DB ?
[16:47:04] <Simetrical>	Not DB.
[16:47:14] <Simetrical>	Nor configuration.
[16:47:16] <ElvanorAtWork>	How do they do that then?
[16:47:32] <ElvanorAtWork>	How can I have multiple configurations in one mediawiki install?
[16:47:39] <Simetrical>	I think it goes something like this.
[16:47:40] <Simetrical>	They have all Apache requests (for wiki-based domains) go to one web root.
[16:47:47] <ElvanorAtWork>	Yeah
[16:47:53] <ElvanorAtWork>	following you there (yet)
[16:47:56] <Simetrical>	Then the request goes to MediaWiki, which includes LocalSettings.php.
[16:48:00] <ElvanorAtWork>	yeah
[16:48:25] <Simetrical>	But their LocalSettings.php sets all options depending on the virtual host name.
[16:48:31] <ElvanorAtWork>	I see.
[16:48:40] <ElvanorAtWork>	So I still must do some custom coding in PHP it seems.
[16:48:42] <Simetrical>	Including the database, extensions, and whatever else you want.
[16:48:54] <ElvanorAtWork>	I mean, discriminating on SERVER_NAME
[16:49:03] <ElvanorAtWork>	or whatever is the variable in PHP, I don't remember.
[16:49:07] <Simetrical>	Very minimal.  Just add a switch statement to LocalSettings.php, and put appropriate code in each of the pieces instead of in separate files.
[16:49:10] <Simetrical>	Yeah, something like that.
[16:49:17] <ElvanorAtWork>	Simetrical: OK. Sounds fair.
[16:49:36] <ElvanorAtWork>	Thanks !
[16:50:44] <stemd>	from 16th November update of mediawiki to r27561, I see one interesting behaviour: links created by signature (~~~~) are seen on page localized (Suradnik:MyName)
[16:51:05] <stemd>	but when I click edit, I see it as [[User:MyName]]
[16:51:29] <stemd>	is it wanted behaviour, or some crazy error?
[16:51:38] <VasilievVV>	stemd: yes AFAIK
[16:51:42] <stemd>	(to be reported to bugzilla)
[16:51:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use only ASCII characters in email confirmation links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11547  (10gtisza)
[16:51:56] <Simetrical>	I told Brion we shouldn't have that.
[16:52:06] <Simetrical>	But was too lazy to fix it myself.
[16:52:10] <stemd>	;-)
[16:52:14] <Simetrical>	Here, let me at least fix the user thingie, that should work.
[16:52:31] <stemd>	ok
[16:52:48] <setuid>	"The User Thingy v1.0" 
[16:52:57] <stemd>	it's not problem, but it confuses people
[16:53:42] <meithal>	there should be a Special:Createarticle which allows intuitive page creation (beside the orphan page consideration)
[16:54:23] <stemd>	(and confusion of users shold be avoided)
[16:54:57] <Simetrical>	It's not 27561, apparently.
[16:55:40] <stemd>	oh
[16:56:01] <stemd>	(I just checked before 16th and after)
[16:56:12] <Simetrical>	I think I found it anyway.
[16:56:21] <stemd>	ok
[16:57:17] <Simetrical>	27512 is one, but it was a cleanup of an earlier commit.
[16:58:18] <stemd>	cleanup needs a cleanup ;-)
[16:58:55] <Simetrical>	27473 there.
[16:59:38] <Filnik>	Hello
[17:02:38] <CIA-37>	03simetrical * r27791 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Parser.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Don't have gibberish English strings like "User" in foreign-language wikis' signatures. Still need to fix Special:Contributions.
[17:02:40] <Simetrical>	stemd, okay, it's fixed now in trunk for logged-in users.
[17:02:57] <Simetrical>	stemd, wait a few days and it will be fixed on whatever wiki you use.  It's still an issue for unregistered users.
[17:03:04] <stemd>	thanks, you are fast!
[17:03:14] <Simetrical>	However, as a temporary workaround, you can modify MediaWiki:Signature and MediaWiki:Signature-anon.
[17:03:29] <stemd>	I will
[17:04:05] *Nikerabbit 	gives speeding fine to Simetrical ;)
[17:05:47] <dino10>	hello, can someone help?  I have installed 1.9.4 on a linux box (fedora).  Installation was successful except that all the wiki skins seem to be without any graphics or nice formatting.  Any idea what went wrong?
[17:06:11] <Simetrical>	dino10, a link would help.  Sounds like the CSS isn't getting included somehow.  Maybe a misconfigured $wgScriptPath or similar.
[17:06:18] <Simetrical>	(I can never remember what those variables are called.)
[17:07:31] <dino10>	Simetrical: ok ... try .. http://igad.nhtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[17:08:19] <Filnik>	Hello
[17:08:37] <Simetrical>	dino10, you've misconfigured it somehow.  It's trying to access /wiki/skins/, does that exist?
[17:11:32] <wikibugs>	06(REMIND) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059  +comment (10Michael.W.Dietrich)
[17:11:37] <dino10>	Simetrical: no... that is somehere else I guess links are missing one sec...
[17:12:03] <dino10>	Simetrical: /usr/share/mediawiki/skins/
[17:12:11] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059  (10Michael.W.Dietrich)
[17:12:36] <Simetrical>	dino10, does /wiki point to /usr/share?
[17:12:55] <dino10>	it has it;s own loca directory
[17:12:58] <dino10>	local *
[17:13:06] <dino10>	checking some stuff... one sec...
[17:16:11] <dino10>	Simetrical: OK I see what happened I think... there was a /var/www/wiki directory which has very little in it... I linked to there
[17:16:34] <dino10>	I guess I should link to /usr/share/mediawiki/
[17:19:41] <dino10>	Simetrical: aha! ok that small directory contained a link to the index.php in /usr/share/mediawiki/, for some reason.  I should be able to fix this now. Thanks for your help.
[17:38:13] <jamasi>	ElvanorAtWork: I'm working on a system which could get you this (via different namespaces or categories)
[17:39:05] <ElvanorAtWork>	jamasi: Hmm, I thought of this and Simetrical solution seems good to me
[17:39:26] <jamasi>	ElvanorAtWork: my playground: http://jamasi.kilu.de/piratentestwiki/index.php/Hauptseite
[17:40:20] <jamasi>	see how it changes its layout: http://jamasi.kilu.de/piratentestwiki/index.php/Fair2.0
[17:40:40] <jamasi>	or http://jamasi.kilu.de/piratentestwiki/index.php/Testseite
[17:41:17] <Simetrical>	TimStarling, why is it that we have a parser function named 'special' when that conflicts with a namespace, so it's probably impossible to use (or at least I haven't figured out a way)?
[17:41:21] <jamasi>	but currently I'm not completly satisfied with the extension to already relese it.
[17:42:11] <Simetrical>	Oh, bugger.
[17:42:17] <Simetrical>	So that's what SFH_NO_HASH means.
[17:42:19] <Simetrical>	Never mind me.
[17:42:21] <jamasi>	(But if there is very strong interest in this I'll add one more feature and documentation and put it on mw.org as alpha
[17:42:57] *Simetrical 	adds a comment
[17:43:13] <jamasi>	the nice thing about this is that you can edit all skins from within the wiki.
[17:49:22] <CIA-37>	03simetrical * r27792 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[17:49:22] <CIA-37>	* Also localize Special:Contributions in 'signature-anon', as with User: in 'signature'
[17:49:22] <CIA-37>	* Whitespace, comments
[17:49:25] <Simetrical>	stemd, there, I've fixed it for anonymous users too.
[17:50:46] *Simetrical 	wanders off to do physics homework
[17:54:17] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: wots #special?
[17:57:20] <stemd>	Simetrical: I'm impressed
[17:57:22] <Nikerabbit>	wot, Simetrical even
[18:03:27] <Slider>	what is mediawiki?
[18:03:39] <NotACow>	Slider: wiki software.
[18:03:55] <Slider>	can I make my own sounds with it?
[18:04:31] <Slider>	for use in applications, like clicking on a button and it makes a sound
[18:06:10] <bango>	how can i re-name mainpage in the navigator?
[18:07:44] <str4nd>	bango: http://your.wiki/something/Special:Movepage/Main_page
[18:07:52] <Slider>	please tell me.. the website only shows how to install etc.
[18:08:27] <Slider>	!google mediaWiki
[18:08:27] <mwbot>	You don't have permission to do that.
[18:08:36] <bango>	i only want to change the names... for example mainpage to bangospage
[18:08:38] <Slider>	!help mediaWiki
[18:08:38] <mwbot>	You don't have permission to do that.
[18:08:46] <Slider>	!permissions
[18:09:21] <bango>	?
[18:09:57] <jamasi>	Slider: see mediawiki.org
[18:10:56] <bango>	str4nd it doesnt work :/
[18:11:02] <str4nd>	lies
[18:11:38] <str4nd>	bango: What it says?
[18:12:06] <bango>	The requested URL /something/Special:Movepage/Main_page was not found on this server.
[18:12:26] <str4nd>	aaaargh :D
[18:12:28] <Simetrical>	Nikerabbit, it's a magic word I discovered when trying to add my own magic word to do the same thing.  :)
[18:12:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) TOC causes w3c html validation to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12077 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (chrislale)
[18:12:30] <str4nd>	Remove that something
[18:13:11] <str4nd>	bango: Search -> Special:Movepage/Main_page -> Go
[18:16:02] <Slider>	a web development app ^_^  oohhhh :P i just hoped media was what i looked for
[18:16:08] <Slider>	ok then thnx
[18:17:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) TOC causes w3c html validation to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12077  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:17:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:19:22] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27793 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/ (SpecialMultipleUpload.i18n.php SpecialMultipleUpload.php): 
[18:19:22] <CIA-37>	creating internationalization files for MultiUpload extension (12074)
[18:19:22] <CIA-37>	Submitted by: Bertrand GRONDIN
[18:19:22] <CIA-37>	Changed by: Siebrand Mazeland
[18:19:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) creating internationalization files for MultiUpload extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12074  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:19:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20add=20=C2=AB=20oldid=20=C2=BB=20to=20t?= =?UTF-8?Q?he=20autocomment?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12078  (10N/A)
[18:22:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) TOC causes w3c html validation to fail - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12077  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:22:40] <wikibugs>	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12078  15enhancement->normal (10gangleri)
[18:23:37] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27794 10/trunk/extensions/LookupUser/ (LookupUser.i18n.php LookupUser.php): 
[18:23:37] <CIA-37>	Update extension a bit.
[18:23:37] <CIA-37>	Submitted by: SPQRobin
[18:27:38] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27795 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.i18n.php: Prettify messagelists
[18:33:13] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: i don't agree with your assessment of the toolserver.  i think if you tried to host many things at wikimedia, you'd just get a toolserver in Tampa
[18:33:18] <flyingparchment>	(e.g.: wikiminiatlas)
[18:33:25] <flyingparchment>	commonsdelinker..
[18:33:58] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27796 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.i18n.php: Remove HTML from messages, replaced by wikiML
[18:35:16] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27797 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for MultiUpload
[18:36:41] <dino11>	Hi, need a bit more help, can't find info on creating a new permissions group...  how do I add a new group, please? :)
[18:36:50] <flyingparchment>	you don't need to create a group
[18:36:56] <flyingparchment>	just use it in wgGroupPermissions and it magically appears
[18:37:19] <dino11>	Ah I did but it did not appear
[18:37:24] <dino11>	let me double check
[18:37:32] <flyingparchment>	where are you expecting to see it?
[18:37:49] <VasilievVV>	!newusergroup | dino11
[18:37:49] <mwbot>	dino11: To create a new usergroup, simple set permissions for that group in LocalSettings.php, using $wgGroupPermissions. Then, simply add users to that group
[18:38:06] <flyingparchment>	that entry has too many uses of 'simply'
[18:38:58] <dino11>	oh good grief I hate it when that happens... I cut and pasted and there was a # comment in there... thanks people...
[18:39:46] <dino11>	that just cost me an hour of my life lol
[18:40:25] <Tom1001>	hi all
[18:41:22] <Tom1001>	I have a problem here... I've installed a mediawiki for a couple of customers. now after running it some time, they get errors like "The table 'wikiobjectcache' is full (localhost)".. what can i do?
[18:49:39] <sorous1>	.
[18:52:39] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27798 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Fix typo
[18:56:50] <dino11>	I just blocked a user called Test and the user can still log in... what am I doing wrong?
[18:58:14] <Jack_Phoenix>	nothing.
[18:58:20] <Jack_Phoenix>	it's just as it's supposed to be
[18:59:27] <dino11>	OK I just wanted to remove the test accoutn I created... could not do that so tried to block it
[18:59:49] <flyingparchment>	can't remove users
[19:00:51] <dino11>	OK I guess I have to scramble the password then
[19:01:55] <dino11>	only thing is that I can't locate the postgresql database... wikidb has only 4 pg_ tables in it
[19:03:12] <flyingparchment>	set search_path = mediawiki, public
[19:03:53] <dino11>	great thanks flyingp...
[19:17:29] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27799 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/ (SpecialMultipleUpload.i18n.php SpecialMultipleUpload.php): 
[19:17:29] <CIA-37>	Message improvements
[19:17:29] <CIA-37>	Submitted by: SPQRobin
[19:24:42] <Dino12>	Hi me again... just about done then I noticed a problem... if logging out, going to the main page log you in again immediately without a login screen
[19:27:03] <Dino12>	this happens even if I quite the browser and restart
[19:27:06] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: try to edit. see if you are still logged in
[19:27:15] <flyingparchment>	Dino12: are you using squid?
[19:27:18] <Dino12>	I have read access....
[19:27:36] <Dino12>	I don['t think I am using squid.. what is it?
[19:27:39] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: again: try to edit. edit pages arn't cached
[19:27:59] <Dino12>	yep I can edit
[19:28:09] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: you can edit - but are you logged in?
[19:28:19] <Dino12>	ok full sequence
[19:29:01] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: well... one explanation would be: you are on a server farm, and the session got inavlidated on one server, and not on other.s
[19:29:10] <Duesentrieb>	i think that wouold be an explanation - but i'm not sure.
[19:29:19] <Dino12>	1. log in  2. go to main page 3. edit main page 4. log out 5. click on main page...
[19:30:00] <Dino12>	6. It says logged in.. 7. edit main page... 8. Edit occurs, but I am now logged out for real
[19:30:45] <Dino12>	So it seems I can do one more edit after being logged out before the login expires
[19:30:49] <Dino12>	looks like a bug
[19:31:40] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: that would be very strange indeed - if it's a bug, it's triggered by some very obscure configuration/circumstances
[19:32:01] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: please look at the page history of the main page. the edit you just made - is it logged under you user name?
[19:32:05] <Duesentrieb>	or under an IP?
[19:32:10] <Dino12>	ok checking
[19:32:20] <Dino12>	BTW this was with default permissions
[19:32:46] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: yes. which means that everyone can edit everything without logging in. 
[19:34:09] <Dino12>	ok... yep the edits seem to be by IP not login name, so that is OK apart from it *saying* I am logged in.  Now I shall turn on read access restrictions again
[19:34:52] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: sounds like you have a caching problem. using some kind of proxy?
[19:39:31] <Dino12>	1. not logged in, can only read main page.  2. log in, have full acess 3. log out 4. full access denied, says I am logged out 5. click on main link, says I am logged in... 6. can't read special pages, can edit main page... 
[19:40:23] <Cagecrawler>	Hi, need some help.  I'm trying to remove the title from a page and its subpages.  See http://rafb.net/p/BAILim29.html  Is there a correct way to encode the forward-slash or a better way to do this?
[19:40:36] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12:  sounds like the main page is cached. you are not using the "back" button in your browser to go there, are you?
[19:40:44] <Dino12>	I think it is harmless, it is just indicating being logged in but I don;t think it is giving permissions
[19:40:52] <Dino12>	no I am not, and there is no cache
[19:40:57] <Dino12>	I mena no proxy
[19:41:24] <Dino12>	The only problem then is that my main page is editable my anyone right now even if they are not logged in
[19:41:50] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: mediawiki uses a cache internally (should not cause this, though), and so does your browser. there's always ome caching going on. the tricky part is it make it so you never notice, because it's purged just in time, and cached versions depend on all relevant stuff.
[19:41:53] <Dino12>	So that made me think there was an actual  security breach
[19:42:04] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: well, did you protect the main page?
[19:42:26] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: because, per default, you can edit everything you can view. it's a wiki.
[19:42:50] <Dino12>	No, I did not, that was my oversight... but the strange logout behavior made it look like a security bug
[19:44:36] <Duesentrieb>	the strange logout behavior is still strange - though i'm still pretty sure it has to do with caching. or with session data, possibly. but then you would also experience random logout.
[19:44:47] <Duesentrieb>	at least if you don't select the "remember me" option on login
[19:44:48] <Dino12>	To sum up, after having logged out, any time you go to the main page it appears to log you in (saying who you are), but it will not let you do anything as if you were logged in... 
[19:45:16] <Dino12>	this behavuior continues indefinitely until you make an edit... after this clicking on the main page will correctly state you are logged out
[19:45:36] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: because editing purges caches...
[19:45:46] <Dino12>	aha! indeed
[19:46:12] <Dino12>	Well I don't think I need worry about it as a security issue, but I hope the info is of help to someone.
[19:46:40] <Dino12>	and again thanks for you assistance
[19:47:25] <phaidros>	is there a bulk_page downloader for mw and vice versa an uploader (to move pages from one to another wiki) ?
[19:47:36] <phaidros>	read: _all_ pages
[19:48:34] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27800 10/trunk/extensions/ProtectSection/ (ProtectSection.i18n.php ProtectSection.php): 
[19:48:34] <CIA-37>	* add i18n file
[19:48:34] <CIA-37>	* add Special:Version stuff
[19:48:34] <CIA-37>	* integrated patches from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ProtectSection by Jim Hu
[19:48:42] <Duesentrieb>	!backup | phaidros 
[19:48:42] <mwbot>	phaidros : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[19:48:55] <Duesentrieb>	phaidros: use the backup procedure - dump on one wiki, import on another
[19:48:57] <Duesentrieb>	also:
[19:49:03] <Duesentrieb>	!transwiki | phaidros 
[19:49:03] <mwbot>	phaidros : For information on configuring interwiki page imports, please refer to <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgImportSources>
[19:49:11] <Duesentrieb>	that'S for individual pages though
[19:49:56] <phaidros>	and is it possible to tweak the import to move the pages into a certain namespace?
[19:52:27] <Duesentrieb>	phaidros: with hte single page one, yes. 
[19:52:42] <Duesentrieb>	i don't know if the dump importer has that option too - you might need to mangle the dump files.
[19:52:50] <Duesentrieb>	that should be simple enough though
[19:53:01] <Duesentrieb>	also look into mwdumper
[19:53:03] <Duesentrieb>	!mwdumper
[19:53:08] <Duesentrieb>	oh? no factoid?
[19:53:16] <Dino12>	bye
[19:53:24] <Duesentrieb>	!mwdumper is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwdumper
[19:53:24] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: mwdumper
[19:53:26] <Duesentrieb>	Dino12: have fun
[19:56:12] <phaidros>	thanx Duesentrieb !
[19:56:57] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27801 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for ProtectSection
[20:01:02] <Filnik>	Hello
[20:08:13] <Cagecrawler>	Hi, need some help. I'm trying to remove the title from a page and its subpages. See http://rafb.net/p/BAILim29.html Is there a correct way to encode the forward-slash or a better way to do this?
[20:10:28] <slavie|away>	...
[20:10:50] <Shanel_away>	What are you dotting at?
[20:11:18] <slavie|away>	You being away, silly.
[20:11:29] <Shanel_away>	Much like you are.
[20:11:39] <slavie|away>	Indeed.
[20:13:21] <CIA-37>	03mkroetzsch * r27802 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (11 files in 2 dirs): First prototype of {{#ask }} parser function. Some things still disabled.
[20:13:55] <Telemac>	Hello
[20:16:10] <Telemac>	Where can I find documentation about should be used to develop extension accessing db (firstly mysql) ?
[20:33:07] <Telemac>	Anyone ?
[20:47:15] <CIA-37>	03mkroetzsch * r27803 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Fix: Tolerate empty params for {{#ask}}
[20:48:19] <CIA-37>	03mkroetzsch * r27804 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php: Take care of &lt; and &gt; escapes in queries submitted via {{#ask}}
[20:54:26] *Simetrical 	wonders if the "Version" field in Bugzilla should be "earliest known with issue" or "latest known with issue"
[21:00:20] <minute>	Simetrical: I suggest earliest, since for some bugs it is necessery to back-date patches.
[21:00:47] <minute>	Presumably if the bug was not in a future version it would be fixed, therefore not mattering what version had the last known issue.
[21:00:50] <phaidros>	w
[21:00:53] <phaidros>	oops
[21:01:09] <minute>	Of course it would always be nice to have both, although Bugzilla probably doesn't support that.
[21:01:13] <minute>	!enter | minute
[21:01:18] <minute>	hmm
[21:01:43] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27805 10/trunk/extensions/LookupUser/LookupUser.php: 
[21:01:43] <CIA-37>	use message 'go' instead of static text
[21:01:43] <CIA-37>	Submitted by: SPQRobin
[21:24:59] <osmosis>	I have both php4 and php5 installed on my server. Mediawiki is breaking on php4. How do I specify for it to use php5?
[21:32:55] <minute>	osmosis: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Robchurch/Getting_PHP_5_on_a_cheap_host
[21:33:33] <osmosis>	minute: cool, so basically i gotta rename all the files to php5 probably.
[21:33:45] <osmosis>	and make sure apache uses .php5
[21:37:41] <minute>	osmosis: If you read that page it tells you what to do.
[21:38:26] <minute>	osmosis: Although if it is set up correctly it should just work if you visit config/index.php5
[21:38:58] <minute>	(i.e. no changes whatsoever)
[21:39:02] <osmosis>	minute: even if it is already installed ?
[21:39:14] <minute>	Ahh, ok.
[21:39:23] <minute>	osmosis: There is a configuration variable..
[21:39:25] <minute>	one moment.
[21:40:44] <Oberoten>	Hola. I am ... finally back from work. And glad to see a more active channel. That said, i am looking for a way to make a page turn up earlier in searches or on more searches... IE, raise it's relevancy with "more tags" or something. Can this be done?
[21:41:04] <minute>	!extensions | Oberoten 
[21:41:04] <mwbot>	Oberoten : MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for details on writing an extension and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions.
[21:41:39] <Oberoten>	I'll start there. Thank you. 
[21:42:49] <minute>	osmosis: Try setting $wgScriptExtension to ".php5" in LocalSettings.php
[21:45:56] <Oberoten>	=== I'll be knackered... That is a LOT of helpful stuff === :)
[21:47:14] <CIA-37>	03aaron * r27806 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ArchivedFile.php: 
[21:47:14] <CIA-37>	* Only load data when necessary
[21:47:14] <CIA-37>	* Make field names more consistent with other file types
[21:47:14] <CIA-37>	* List off member variables
[21:47:14] <CIA-37>	* Add some access functions
[21:54:52] <osmosis>	minute: I dont see $wgScriptExtnesion. Might not be in 1.7
[21:55:09] <minute>	add it
[21:55:11] <minute>	wait
[21:55:15] <minute>	can't you upgrade?
[21:55:35] <osmosis>	minute: sure, but i was trying to get this working first. I dont want to lose my existing wikidb.
[21:55:43] <osmosis>	So I figured get this working, then upgrade.
[21:59:36] <minute>	osmosis: It works with one configuration setting in 1.11
[21:59:39] <minute>	but anyway
[22:00:07] <osmosis>	minute: yah, im setting up apache onw.
[22:00:09] <osmosis>	now
[22:00:39] <minute>	ok
[22:03:26] <CIA-37>	03aaron * r27807 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/SpecialBlockip.php skins/common/block.js): *Make entry point for hideuser aspect of blocks (requires 'hideuser' right). Still not ready for production use until log stuff from revisiondelete is fully merged in.
[22:07:27] <Iradigalesc>	a
[22:08:08] <minute>	b
[22:11:08] <AaronSchulz>	c
[22:11:30] <AaronSchulz>	c++
[22:14:07] <ialex>	\o/
[22:28:36] <Oberoten>	.... 
[22:28:43] <Oberoten>	... okay I am a proven idiot. 
[22:29:05] <Oberoten>	Managed to fiddle with a new skin, and somehow I have lost the ability to change back to the old one. 
[22:29:26] <Oberoten>	Can I just remove the new one and it will revert to Default MyBook
[22:30:42] <Oberoten>	... yes, that worked. 
[22:59:16] <osmosis>	does mediawiki auto update db's from older versions ?
[22:59:23] <osmosis>	how do i do an upgrade ?
[22:59:32] <Pathoschild>	!upgrade | osmosis 
[22:59:32] <mwbot>	osmosis : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[23:01:02] <osmosis>	Pathoschild: im already on 1.7.  This only talks about upgrading to 1.11, so I guess im okay already.
[23:01:31] <MZMcBride>	when you update, the necessary db tables will be added or modified
[23:01:45] <osmosis>	MZMcBride: cool
[23:01:47] <MZMcBride>	however large jumps may be difficult; not too sure
[23:01:55] <osmosis>	MZMcBride: 1.7 isnt that old.
[23:02:00] <MZMcBride>	the upgrade page should tell you
[23:02:35] <osmosis>	MZMcBride: only talks about 1.11 really
[23:02:37] <minute>	Large dumps *should* be as flawless as upgrading one by one.
[23:02:46] <minute>	osmosis: Same procdure.
[23:02:56] <minute>	Upgrading is the same procedure for all versions.
[23:03:49] <hashar>	make sure you make a backup before upgrading !! :)
[23:03:59] <MZMcBride>	absolutely
[23:14:35] <yelyos>	I'm having texvc and template problems with my installation of mediawiki
[23:15:35] <yelyos>	I'm using it with WAMP on a windows machine to view a Wikipedia database dump offline
[23:16:16] <BrokenArrow>	yelyos: did you instal alll extensions that are active on WMF sites?
[23:16:37] <yelyos>	no, which one do I need?
[23:16:58] <BrokenArrow>	see special:version on the live Wikipedia that you downloaded
[23:17:02] <yelyos>	I'm having trouble because {{{#if and I think other triple curly brace expressions in templates don't render
[23:17:10] <yelyos>	<ref> doesn't work either
[23:17:11] <MZMcBride>	!parserfunctions
[23:17:11] <mwbot>	"parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions>. For details about the extension, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parser_functions>
[23:17:14] <MZMcBride>	!cite
[23:17:14] <mwbot>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[23:17:20] <yelyos>	got it, thanks
[23:17:36] <yelyos>	ok, I'll try that and then come back for the texvc issue
[23:17:37] <MZMcBride>	!anyone else?
[23:17:43] <MZMcBride>	ok
[23:18:18] <BrokenArrow>	for the last one, I'd like to find a solution, too...
[23:20:46] <yelyos>	I did have a look at the extensions earlier cursorarily but didn't see anything that looked like what I wanted - maybe I overlooked those two 
[23:21:50] <MZMcBride>	those two are major to pages and templates
[23:22:34] <BrokenArrow>	also, be sure enable tidy if you want the closest results to live rendering
[23:22:52] <yelyos>	how do I enable tidy?
[23:23:23] <BrokenArrow>	!tidy ?
[23:23:23] <mwbot>	You don't have permission to do that.
[23:23:36] <BrokenArrow>	(gah)
[23:23:47] <MZMcBride>	!tidy
[23:23:47] <mwbot>	For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[23:23:58] <BrokenArrow>	ok, we do have it :)
[23:24:08] <MZMcBride>	!htmltidy
[23:24:28] <MZMcBride>	!htmltidy is For more information about HTML Tidy, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[23:24:28] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: htmltidy
[23:26:56] <TimLaqua_away>	@alias
[23:26:59] <TimLaqua_away>	!alias
[23:27:09] <TimLaqua_away>	can't you just add an alias or something?
[23:27:16] <MZMcBride>	you have to be trusted
[23:27:22] <TimLaqua_away>	good call
[23:27:39] <MZMcBride>	!list
[23:27:39] <mwbot>	http://lists.wikimedia.org
[23:27:43] <MZMcBride>	@list
[23:32:16] <minute>	!del htmltidy
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[23:45:47] <yelyos>	ok, that seems to work
[23:46:19] <yelyos>	now for texvc
[23:46:39] <yelyos>	so I'm running windows
[23:46:56] <yelyos>	and I used cygwin to make texvc, using gnu make
[23:47:36] <yelyos>	but it complains it can't find cygwin1.dll when I try to run texvc independantly of mediawiki, and mediawiki gives the "Failed to parse: missing texvc executable" error message
[23:48:13] <yelyos>	I've tried putting the location of cygwin1.dll in the windows path
[23:48:21] <yelyos>	and enabling dll files for the path
[23:48:26] <yelyos>	to no avail
[23:49:52] <yelyos>	I think I get theoretically what the problem is but I haven't the faintest idea how to actually go about fixing it
[23:50:36] <yelyos>	I even tried copying the cygwin dll into the texvc folder, and texvc ran that time, returned "-", and finished
[23:50:41] <yelyos>	and mediawiki still couldn't see it
[23:59:37] <CIA-37>	03siebrand * r27808 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 
[23:59:37] <CIA-37>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[23:59:37] <CIA-37>	* Fixes and additions to 6 extensions for ksh
[23:59:40] <yelyos>	basically I need to figure out how to tell texvc where my real cygwin is