[00:31:05] 03(mod) First messages file for Ido language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12095 (10gangleri) [01:08:22] *qsheets is back ;P [01:09:51] Could someone possibly tell me how to create a user removable site notice? [01:11:23] Simetrical??? [01:12:07] qsheets, on Wikimedia sites it's done with a fancy extension. [01:12:14] That has it multi-site, and everything. [01:12:30] You would have to hack up some JavaScript, probably. It should be fairly simple, if you know what you're doing. [01:12:42] Crap [01:13:59] Someone will probably get around to adding it to the main software one day. [01:59:21] 03(mod) First messages file for Ido language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12095 +comment (10malafaya) [02:00:55] 03(WONTFIX) First messages file for Ido language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12095 +comment (10malafaya) [02:30:05] does MediaWiki come with ... built in, or is that provided by some additional module or such ? I can't see to get it to do anything on my copy of MediaWiki like on WikiPedia [02:30:25] *Wikipedia [02:30:34] !cite | Samus_Aran [02:30:34] Samus_Aran : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [02:39:33] Question for the devs: Now that Parser.strip() is deprecated, are tag extensions still being replaced by \x07UNIQ markers, or is there another method being used? [02:40:39] I need some help with mediawiki...is this the place for that? [02:43:17] !ask | Katori [02:43:17] Katori : Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc [02:43:44] Algo, I don't know. You'd be best off asking Tim Starling, I guess. [02:43:57] Katori: Yes, this channel is for mediawiki help [02:44:30] okay sorry guys: I need to edit a user's groups, I'm using 1.11.0, and the user_rights table doesn't exist [02:50:17] Katori, are you using a database prefix? [02:50:47] Katori, if so, it will be called prefix_user_rights, where prefix_ is the same prefix as all the rest of the tables. [02:51:09] no prefix [02:51:11] Otherwise your install sounds seriously broken. [02:51:27] Can you paste a list of existing database tables to rafb.net/paste? [02:52:49] okay hold on, I get my terminology messed up from time to time. I have the user_groups TABLE. but the user_rights FIELD doesn't exist on the user table. [02:57:53] Katori, what's DESCRIBE user_groups; say? [02:59:39] fields - ug_user, ug_group [02:59:52] types - int(10)unsigned, varbinary(6) [02:59:55] null - no, no [02:59:59] key - PRI, PRI [03:00:07] default 0, blank [03:00:08] That sounds exactly correct. [03:00:13] extra - blank, blank [03:00:14] okay [03:00:14] well [03:00:21] I must be doing something wrong, I know this is user error :P [03:00:41] INSERT INTO user_groups(ug_user, ug_group) VALUES (1234, 'bureaucrat'); [03:00:47] Where 1234 is the desired user id. [03:01:03] Then you can log in as that user and use Special:Userrights to make further usergroup changes. [03:01:21] Normally, you shouldn't have to use this method, unless for some reason you don't have access to a bureaucrat account. [03:02:37] hold on, having Firefox trouble, sorry. [03:02:59] oh i have access to an account [03:03:12] I have access to a sysop account [03:04:12] Sysops normally don't have access to Special:Userrights. Try going there. [03:04:27] If it works, stick with it, otherwise you have to fiddle with the database. [03:05:27] why would they not have access? I thought sysops could access everything [03:06:27] sysops can't make new sysops by default [03:06:33] for that you need the bureaucrat flag [03:06:47] it prevents abuse and compromised account problems [03:08:05] Katori, it would be kind of disruptive if any sysop could remove sysop status from any other sysop. Therefore, by default, the bureaucrat group is used for group access. Note that the default created account is both sysop and bureaucrat. [03:08:26] well thanks guys, that was easy, I got it done using Userrights [03:08:37] of course, I didn't know there WAS a user rights, since there's no way to get to it [03:11:01] Simetrical|away: got a second? [03:11:23] 03(mod) za.wikiquote (Chueng Wikiquotes) does not send email confirmations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12093 (10gangleri) [03:11:31] MZMcBride, not really, going to bed now. Good night. [03:11:41] night [03:19:24] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id= (10gangleri) [03:35:40] I gotta question about templates I'm trying to create an infobox for the Ben10 wiki but I can't seem to call the template and i'm not sure if i'm doing something wrong. http://editthis.info/ben10versepedia/Template:Infobox_Alien - i /think/ i have the syntax right.. but it's not working as far as i can tell - http://editthis.info/ben10versepedia/Heatblast [03:35:50] !templates | Wolfkin [03:35:50] Wolfkin: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [03:36:05] (i just redid that keyword for you :) ) [03:37:54] well I've got the numbered list demo working but it doesn't work my template. so i'm don't know if it's a matter of anything needing to be installed.. i'll do some reading and I'll be right back [03:38:12] and thanks.. personalizd kws are cool [03:38:57] you're mediawiki version is rather out of date and doesn't have ParserFunctions installed [03:43:41] well since it's not my site it's not something I can fix. so if that's the cause then i still have to explain why the numberedlist demo works but not my template. the only difference i can think of is my whitespace. [03:44:10] aye.. look like that's it.. not sure how to fix it but I'l talk to the admin let him know what' sup.. thanks McBride [03:44:20] no problem [03:44:43] the numbered list works because that's standard wiki markup [03:44:46] by the way [03:53:53] why do I see UNIQ43b0ae234897a17d-nowiki-00000001-QINU when I try to put in ? [03:54:26] dunno [03:54:38] any other tags you're using? [03:54:50] nope [03:54:55] wait... [03:55:02] it happens with
 as well
[03:55:17] 	which mw version?
[03:55:42] 	1.12alpha
[03:56:03] 	well there's your issue :)
[03:56:20] 	somehow that doesn't happen on the Wikimedia wikis :-\
[03:56:59] 	are you ahead of r27647?
[03:57:25] 	not sure
[03:57:28] *sunwin 	checks
[03:58:24] 	yeah
[03:58:27] 	r27819
[03:59:04] 	well the parser was refactored and many, many other changes were made. what do expect? :)
[04:00:51] 	sweet.. it's starting to work. I've gotten the pictures to laod but not the text.. i'm going to make this work...
[04:10:35] 	mmm... parser refactored....  scary...
[04:11:14] 	exciting
[04:11:44] 	i can't wait for it to go live
[04:11:47] 	I saw some tech-l chatter on it.
[04:12:04] 	didn't think anyone was actually like... doing stuff though, thought it was just talk
[04:12:27] 	TimLaqua: It was; someone else worked on it separately. ;)
[04:12:34] *TimLaqua 	wanders over to the svn logs
[04:12:59] 	tim did it
[04:13:17] 	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=27667
[04:13:24] 	well, he's a clever fellow
[04:15:32] 	holy - and like 10 parser revisions since tim's revision
[04:16:47] 	Hello
[04:16:54] 	hello
[04:17:03] 	How's the best way to get rid of spam?! :(
[04:17:23] 	er... this is the mediawiki channel
[04:17:31] 	I prefer it fried
[04:17:42] 	I know. :)
[04:18:27] 	check here to know what I mean:
[04:18:29] 	http://www.encyclopćdia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges
[04:18:39] 	cool domain.
[04:18:52] 	I have to delete spam every single day :S
[04:18:55] 	thanks
[04:19:21] 	you're looking for confirmedit, i believe
[04:19:23] 	!confirmedit
[04:19:31] 	http://www.encyclopćdia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&days=30&limit=500
[04:19:33] 	@search confirmedit
[04:19:33] 	Results: [captchas]
[04:19:36] 	Rasputine: Require registration to edit, and install a captcha extension. :)
[04:19:45] 	!captchas
[04:19:45] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
[04:19:51] 	thanks
[04:20:02] 	any link to the captcha ext?
[04:20:10] 	@search captcha
[04:20:10] 	Results: [captchas]
[04:20:16] 	hmm...
[04:20:19] 	:)
[04:20:21] *TimLaqua 	pokes mwbot
[04:20:22] 	i'll take care of it in #mwbot
[04:21:20] 	wow, very cool the ConfirmEdit!!! Thanks a lot guys!
[04:22:42] 	Rasputine: installing captchas can be a real pain; you may want to look at...
[04:23:12] 	http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/
[04:24:19] 	reCAPTCHA is easily temperad... I've heard...
[04:24:35] 	hmm, i haven't heard that
[04:24:48] 	easily temperad?
[04:25:53] 	hacked
[04:26:01] 	ah
[04:26:13] 	http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+reCAPTCHA+bypass
[04:28:01] 	check here:
[04:28:02] 	websecurity.com.ua/uploads/2007/MoBiC/reCaptcha.txt
[04:28:26] *MZMcBride 	shrugs
[04:28:38] 	i doubt many vandals know that
[04:29:29] 	lol
[04:31:07] 	eh, I looked at that article, it's specific to a particular implementation
[04:32:10] 	Another question: is there an ext to make the description meta tag dynamic? Mediawiki looks awfull on Google results due to the lack of a description tag
[04:32:35] 	TimLaqua: I've heard there also many for WP
[04:33:14] 	all my pages look like this on google: "Encyclopćdia, Main Page | About | Help | FAQ | Special pages | Log in. Category: Encyclopćdia Printable version | Disclaimers | Privacy policy ..."
[04:33:25] 	http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.encyclop%C3%A6dia.org&btnG=Google+Search
[04:35:02] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetaKeywordsTag
[04:35:16] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Add_Metas
[04:35:21] 	hell...
[04:35:22] 	!extensions
[04:35:22] 	MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See  for details on writing an extension and  for an overview of known extensions.
[04:35:31] 	thanks 
[04:35:32] 	:)
[04:36:34] 	I think they deal with keyword only, but will check better
[04:38:19] 	And also, big problem... you have to edit each one by hand, They are not dynamicaly generated like the title tag... I still have not found an ext that could do that
[04:38:45] 	you could write one.  ;-)
[04:43:58] 	lol
[04:44:00] 	indeed
[04:44:23] 	It's very important for SEO and still there is none for MediaWiki... strange
[04:44:54] 	it's not so hard. Just take the first paragraph and tweak the MetaKeywordsTag ext
[04:47:56] 	But I have never wrote one before...
[04:49:37] 	Who wants to join me writing it?
[04:49:46] 	and be famous, lol
[05:00:13] 	no takers?
[05:00:14] 	;)
[05:38:26] 	03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20visible=20HTML=20at=20=C2=AB=20s?= =?UTF-8?Q?pecial?=:=?UTF-8?Q?Listusers=20=C2=BB?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12100  (10N/A)
[05:50:03] 	Maybe it would be easier to change the code which dynamicaly creates the title tag and make it change the descriptiopn tag also. Any1 knows where should I start looking for it?
[05:58:21] 	can anyone help me with a file upload issue on IIS6?
[05:58:44] 	I have uploads working for a Wordpress site, but not for my Mediawiki site on the same server
[06:00:08] 	when I try and upload a file I get the error: Warning: filesize() [function.filesize]: stat failed for C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\phpF87.tmp
[06:00:21] 	and Could not find file "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\phpF87.tmp".
[06:17:38] 	oh well wrong time of day I guess
[06:25:00] *AmiDaniel_away 	waves to brion 
[06:25:13] *brion 	waves from sunny southern cal
[06:25:36] 	sonofabitch >:()
[06:25:41] 	It snowed here yesterday
[06:25:44] 	:D
[06:25:47] *AmiDaniel_away 	stabs
[06:26:00] *brion 	dodges easily since his feet are not encased in ice and snow
[06:26:10] 	hehe ... so how's cali treating you?
[06:26:13] 	Gay yet? :P
[06:26:15] *AmiDaniel_away 	ducks
[06:26:34] 	last i checked i'm still enjoying sex with a woman
[06:27:01] 	While typing at your computer? I'm sure she appreciates that
[06:27:14] 	:)
[06:30:30] 	I added the News rss feed extension in my wiki and it is just a great extension ... :)
[06:30:42] 	the code being used in the main page is 
[06:30:42] 	
[06:30:42] 	{{{pagename}}}
[06:30:42] 	
[06:30:53] 	"
[06:30:53] 	{{{pagename}}}
[06:30:53] 	"
[06:31:28] 	cute
[06:31:34] 	\
[06:31:46] 	newsfeed limit="10" namespaces="KB" silent onlynew
[06:31:58] 	following by {{{pagename}}} ;)
[06:32:25] 	and the feed it working fine ... but it is showing a few more contents in the title than the title of the page
[06:33:06] 	is there any way so that the in the feed, I'll be able to see the title of the page only
[06:34:39] 	I tried to tweak the extension ... but wasn't able to do it :(
[06:35:06] 	:(
[06:35:13] 	where's the extension?
[06:35:33] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:News that is the extension I used
[06:38:45] 	prad: is it including the site name?
[06:38:51] 	like 'Title - MyWiki' ?
[06:38:57] 	or is it sth else
[06:39:58] 	yeah, the wiki title is showing
[06:40:19] 	take a peek at NewsRenderer.php
[06:40:23] 	in function renderFeed
[06:40:31] 	i think you wnat this line:
[06:40:33] 			$feed = new $cls( $this->title->getText() . ' - ' . $wgSitename , $description, $url, $date );
[06:40:51] 	take out the  . ' - ' . $wgSitename bit
[06:40:54] 	see if that does it?
[06:41:27] 	am checking it
[06:48:29] 	I changed that line as
[06:48:31] 	$feed = new $cls( $this->title->getText(), $description, $url, $date );
[06:48:46] 	but the description is stilling showing up ... :(
[06:49:28] 	like "Title of the page - New page: a few lines from the article"
[06:49:49] 	prad: it may be cached?
[06:49:55] 	or maybe that's the feed title
[06:50:30] 	i'm sure it's in there somewhere :)
[06:51:03] 	let me check for the cache :)
[06:52:20] 	RSS feeds are usually very heavily cached by browsers too
[06:52:55] 	I removed the feed configured in browser completely and configured it again
[06:53:03] 	but the same result
[06:53:38] 	I changed that line to "$feed = new $cls( $this->title->getText(),$url, $date );" now ... but no result
[06:54:17] 	for example, this is the feed title I am seeing in my browser
[06:54:27] 	KB:Script to monitor Disk Space Usage - New page: Script to Find the Disk Space Usage -----------------------------------   Introduction ------------  The script given below determines the disk space usage of each partition and if it exce...
[06:54:37] 	I want to limit the feed title to 
[06:54:43] 	KB:Script to monitor Disk Space Usage
[06:54:59] 	the rest needs to be removed
[07:03:05] 	thanks for the help
[07:14:09] 	brion: yay!
[07:14:15] 	yay?
[07:16:26] 	you're around
[07:16:52] 	AaronSchulz: boo!
[07:16:58] 	You're around :P
[07:17:22] 	I wonder if I should commit this mergehistory stuff
[07:17:33] 	AaronSchulz: The stuff with the horrid radio buttons?
[07:17:54] 	yay
[07:18:21] 	how long has MediaWiki:rev-deleted-comment, etc. been around?
[07:18:46] 	MZMcBride: At least since 1.10, I think
[07:18:56] 	that's part of bit rev deletion?
[07:19:17] 	erm ... I think so, isn't it?
[07:19:41] 	seems odd that the messages after been around for so long when bit rev still isn't live
[07:20:42] 	MZMcBride: It's live .. just disabled by default
[07:20:51] 	And that's ort of the idea of gradually merging things :)
[07:21:29] 	it's live, huh? that's even stranger
[07:22:03] 	"People are stange, when you're a stranger"
[07:22:08] 	i get the gradually merging things, but 1.10 was some time ago :)
[07:22:48] 	they have a new cd that's only sold at wal-mart
[07:22:52] 	there hasn't been anytime to review it
[07:23:12] 	MZMcBride: They have lots of cds at wal-mart :)
[07:23:43] 	i'd imagine
[07:24:13] 	AaronSchulz: yeah, i knew it was awaiting review, i just didn't know things went live and were simply disabled
[07:24:35] *AaronSchulz 	wonders how busy brion is
[07:25:45] 	it's 11:25pm
[07:25:54] 	i'm going to bed soon
[07:25:59] 	then flying back to fl in the afternoon
[07:26:14] 	So, you'll have lots of time to kill on the plane then :)
[07:28:15] 	i'll be sleeping... can't work on laptop on plane :)
[07:29:05] 	And you have the nerv to call yourself a nerd!
[07:32:36] 	03aaron * r27820 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ArchivedFile.php: *Remove cruft
[07:32:41] 	őŕé ăčňëĺđ :)
[07:33:38] 	impresive: impressive indeed :)
[07:34:23] 	03(NEW) contextlines user preference ignored in LuceneSearch - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12101 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (brion)
[07:36:12] 	AmiDaniel_away: hey! radio buttons are the shit
[07:36:34] 	AaronSchulz: Shit they are
[07:36:52] 	useful stuff
[07:37:07] 	checkboxes would work for stuff like that
[07:37:32] 	Well, if your definition of being useful is slowing everyone down and removing functionality, then sure, they're useful :)
[07:39:04] 	In all seriousness, though, lose the radio buttons or finish rev_deleted / mergehistory before committing
[07:39:11] 	Or, if at all possible, do both :)
[07:39:12] 	Sorry to be a bother, but is anyone there who can help me wrap my head around categories?
[07:39:23] 	!categories
[07:39:23] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories
[07:39:32] 	AmiDaniel_away: how would you select the merge point?
[07:39:36] 	well, kinda
[07:39:39] 	Wow, someone's been busy teaching the bot factoids :D
[07:39:50] 	but actually, I have been there and am still confused
[07:40:04] 	AaronSchulz: By checking the revisions to merge?
[07:40:16] 	justkristin: Okay, what's the confusion?
[07:40:17] 	I don't want that
[07:40:25] 	and that would take up the whole page again
[07:40:32] 	AaronSchulz: Then how are you going to deal with complex merges?
[07:40:34] 	kind of a slow down when there are 30,000 revs
[07:40:44] 	AaronSchulz: Why?
[07:40:48] 	ok sleepytime
[07:40:54] 	I realize that it is possible to create a page that lists the pages of one certain category, but what about a page that lists all pages that belong to two categories
[07:41:09] 	I mean, I understand about sub-categories, but that isn't what I want
[07:41:14] 	weee GFDL!
[07:41:21] 	brion: actually the function that I wanted to edit the code was makeFeedItem
[07:41:31] 	justkristin: An intersection of two categories, in othr words?
[07:41:41] 	I am creating a wiki for my professor, and some of the stuff will fall, for example, under ....
[07:41:44] 	I changed the line $name = $title->getPrefixedText() . ( $row->rc_comment ? (' - ' . $row->rc_comment) : '' );
[07:41:45] 	yes!
[07:41:46] 	to 
[07:41:53] 	$name = $title->getPrefixedText();
[07:41:58] 	and it is worky ;)
[07:42:03] 	Like all articles that are both under "Chaucer" and "Online Texts"
[07:42:07] 	or something
[07:42:22] 	justkristin: I don't believe there's any extension for mediawiki that can do this .. it would not be that difficult to write, however
[07:42:27] 	a multiple-criteria select, as it were
[07:42:40] 	Alternatively, you could write client-side scripts that access them via the api, etc.
[07:42:54] 	If you'll write up a bug, I may be able to get something written for you at some point this week
[07:43:02] 	!bugzilla | justkristin 
[07:43:02] 	justkristin : All bugs in MediaWiki should be reported at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. This is also the place to request site configuration changes, new features or enhancements to existing features, although bear the following points in mind before making a feature/enhancement request: 1) If the request is specific to a Wikimedia wiki, please discuss the issue on that wiki first. 2) Consider whether a custom extension would be more appropriate.
[07:43:10] 	brion: however thank you for your suggestions, I greatly appreciate it :)
[07:43:16] 	bye
[07:43:31] 	Wow.  Wow.  Thank you!
[07:43:33] *AmiDaniel_away 	wonders if prad knew brion had already left :)
[07:43:57] 	justkristin: Aye, the wonders of opensource -- developers you can talk to! :D
[07:44:33] 	I am amazed and grateful!  Can I send you cookies or something?  :)
[07:45:28] *AmiDaniel_away 	looooves cookies :)
[07:45:41] 	Is 5244 what I am asking about?  I'd hate to dupe enter...
[07:45:57] *justkristin 	loves cookies, too. 
[07:46:17] 	In fact, I just ate a few too many Trader Joe's Mint Faux-Oreos
[07:46:25] 	damn holidays
[07:46:50] 	Oh my, indeed ... there is already a bug
[07:47:21] 	Or actually, 6127
[07:47:24] 	Well, you might nab that patch and try it out on your own
[07:47:40] 	At first glance, it looks like it does what you want
[07:47:41] 	nope...that was the dupe of 5244
[07:49:24] 	03(mod) Allow searching in intersections, etc. of categories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5244  +comment (10cannon.danielc)
[07:50:03] 	Trying it right now
[07:50:23] 	(the stuff posted by Radiant)
[07:52:05] 	03aaron * r27821 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: *Fix logic error
[07:53:07] 	*gasp* A logic error?!
[07:57:53] 	poop.... sorry to be so remedial, but do you think I need to install everything in the zip?  Or can I get away with just the include (SpecialIntersect.php) as long as I don't care about the gui stuff....
[07:58:18] 	I would hate to actually edit the core wiki files, as I am a ditz and will end up overwriting things on update
[07:58:27] 	my weakness, I know, but...
[08:00:44] 	justkristin: I'd suggest unzipping it, then running patch -i *.diff .. if it screws things up you can revert it pretty much the same way
[08:01:05] 	Ideally that should be implemented as an extension though, I don't like having it in core
[08:01:18] 	*nod*
[08:02:48] 	Ok... one last dorky question:  Why are there .diff versions of .php files also included in the zip?  Why not just include the new version of the file?
[08:02:54] 	03(mod) Create Limburgish Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11760  (10beggars2expactations)
[08:02:55] 	or am I missing something... :(
[08:04:09] 	justkristin: So that you can use patch instead of having to overwrite files :)
[08:14:45] 	Thank you so much AmiDaniel.  I really appreciate your help.
[08:23:16] 	03aaron * r27822 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Fix hook
[08:47:07] 	re
[09:04:42] 	03(NEW) Update for Min Dong localisation and its extension messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12102 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (shinjiman)
[09:05:52] 	03(mod) Update for Min Dong localisation and its extension messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12102  (10shinjiman)
[09:13:43] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12091  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[09:13:46] 	03(mod) unable to change any parameter in preferences at als. wiktionary (gsw - Alemannisch) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12094  (10rotemliss_public)
[09:13:50] 	03(mod) za.wikiquote (Chueng Wikiquotes) does not send email confirmations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12093  (10rotemliss_public)
[09:19:27] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12096  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[09:20:10] 	Hey, any ideas why "$wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[1]['*'] = array();" doesn't work when you have the Lockdown extension installed?
[09:20:25] 	Duesentrieb_: :)
[09:21:03] 	03(mod) some databases are locked; email and password might be out of date - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12097  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[09:21:11] 	minute: Erm ... you're trying to unlock the talk namespace? O.o
[09:21:54] 	AmiDaniel_away: No... I'm trying to make it so that no one can edit the talk namespace.
[09:21:58] 	Or read it for that matter.
[09:22:24] 	It is a private wiki and we have no use for it - just trying to cut down the administration overhead of having the periodically check that namespace.
[09:23:25] 	minute: I believe you need something like $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[1]['*'] = array ( 'superninja' );
[09:23:36] 	Hello
[09:23:38] 	Hmm, maybe '' will work.
[09:23:40] 	03aaron * r27823 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
[09:23:40] 	*Add a special page to merge non-overlapping page histories to fix copy-paste moves ect. This requires the 'mergehistory' right to test, which is for sysops, but commented out for now.
[09:23:40] 	*Add merge log
[09:23:40] 	*Do not list revisiondelete as a special page with no context
[09:23:54] 	ok, bedtime
[09:24:39] 	nite AaronSchulz
[09:24:46] 	Right, that appears to work....
[09:26:00] 	Yep, it works.
[09:26:04] 	AmiDaniel_away: Thank you.
[09:28:15] 	woohoo
[09:29:38] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12098  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[09:32:33] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12091  (10rotemliss_public)
[09:42:29] 	03aaron * r27824 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: *Fix message for RC
[09:53:16] 	03aaron * r27825 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: *Add colons
[09:58:59] 	03(NEW) Finnish Wikinews' sitename, namespace, logo and word forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12103 15enhancement; high; Wikimedia: Language setup; (attel0)
[10:17:44] 	06(LATER) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:27:47] 	03aaron * r27826 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): *Cleanup log and timestamps for merge stuff
[10:28:26] 	03(mod) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071  (10le.korrigan)
[10:50:16] 	hi, I'm running MediaWiki 1.6.10 on my server and I'm having a trouble with the title of my page
[10:50:22] 	look at this example: http://wiki.jochus.be/index.php/Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How_to_install_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:50:36] 	because I wanted the breadcrumbs, I used the [/...] notation
[10:50:48] 	but now the title of the page is: Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How to install Mozilla Firefox
[10:50:59] 	that's of course logic, but not very user friendly :-(
[10:51:10] 	is there a way to use breadcrumbs AND keep the title short?
[10:55:52] 	redirects?
[10:58:00] 	hi all!
[10:58:11] 	did anyone see LeonWP lately?
[10:59:00] 	uberfuzzy: so using #REDIRECT ? (just googled it )
[10:59:38] 	make a "How to install Mozilla Firefox" page, with #REDIRECT [[Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How to install Mozilla Firefox]]
[11:00:01] 	hmm, so then I still have the breadcrumbs?
[11:00:18] 	aha, yes, I get now
[11:00:34] 	okay, that will work
[11:00:41] 	*I get it now
[11:06:44] 	03(mod) ZH lonelypagestext like deadendpagestext; also variants bug - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11947  +comment (10shinjiman)
[11:12:51] 	uberfuzzy: I made a redirect here : http://wiki.jochus.be/index.php/Hoofdpagina/Tutorials => look at test
[11:12:58] 	there I placed the redirect tag
[11:13:05] 	but MediaWiki doesn't understand the code? :(
[11:13:27] 	oops, nvm ... I had cache problems :)
[11:14:29] 	uberfuzzy: no, still the same problem: http://wiki.jochus.be/index.php/TEST => has the wrong title page :)
[11:15:17] 	oh, you wanted the page title to be shorter
[11:15:48] 	uberfuzzy: yes, if that's possible of course (I'm not sure it's possible )
[11:16:21] 	I'll explain why I ask this: when you search in Google, the hit tells Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How to install Mozilla Firefox
[11:16:26] 	and that's extremely ugly :)
[11:16:29] 	{{DISPLAYTITLE}}
[11:16:37] 	so I want it to be like: How to install Mozilla Firefox
[11:16:38] 	yeah that
[11:16:40] 	ok
[11:16:44] 	gonna try it
[11:16:51] 	people dont mind titles like that on wiki's tho
[11:16:55] 	its how things are
[11:18:57] 	chmod007: I'm googling for the tag you gave me, but I can't find a good explanation for it
[11:19:01] 	can you provide me some?
[11:19:24] 	see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lowercase for an example
[11:19:24] 	{{DISPLAYTITLE:How to install Mozilla Firefox}}
[11:20:58] 	strange, not it gives me something about a Sjabloon => http://wiki.jochus.be/index.php/Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How_to_install_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:21:17] 	wait, what version are you running?
[11:21:31] 	1.6.10
[11:21:38] 	can't go higher because of PHP4 on my server
[11:22:33] 	i think DISPLAYTITLE is 1.10
[11:23:03] 	DISPLAYTITLE sucks in MediaWiki 1.11 anyway...
[11:23:30] 	and i think you have to turn it on manually
[11:26:23] 	yah - $wgAllowDisplayTitle = true; needs to be set in LocalSettings.php before MW 1.11
[11:27:08] 	03(mod) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071  +comment (10a9502784)
[11:35:55] 	Jack_Phoenix: turned it on true, but still no luck => see : http://wiki.jochus.be/index.php/Hoofdpagina/Tutorials/How_to_install_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:36:35] 	it doesn't work properly for one reason or another - it's trying to look up Template:DISPLAYTITLE:... etc.
[11:36:49] 	aha :(
[11:37:50] 	do localsettings take effect immediately? 
[11:38:12] 	usually yes
[11:38:45] 	DISPLAYTITLE is introduced in version 1.7.0, he uses 1.6.0
[11:39:09] 	ah, that's why
[11:39:19] 	damn, wish I got PHP5 on the server
[11:39:23] 	( server isn't mine )
[11:39:28] *Jack_Phoenix 	suggests switching to a better server
[11:39:47] 	hehe :-D
[11:39:59] 	let me say: financial reasons ;-)
[11:53:28] 	03(mod) Finnish Wikinews' sitename, namespace, logo and word forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12103  (10str4nd)
[12:06:36] 	ugh
[12:06:48] 	can't we force text/plain mime-types in bugzilla?
[12:06:57] 	drives me nuts
[12:38:32] 	Why aren't there updates to the dump on download.wikimedia.org?
[12:54:09] 	03(NEW) extra spaces are added to text of link when rendered by wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12104 15enhancement; lowest; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (david)
[12:54:41] 	03(mod) extra spaces are added to text of link when rendered by wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12104  (10david)
[13:08:42] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=  (10dejan.papez)
[13:27:43] 	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12091  (10rotemliss_public)
[13:27:44] 	03(mod)  Users can login with global account and create an account in a wiki even if IP is blocked from account creations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11148  (10rotemliss_public)
[13:27:50] 	03(mod)  Temporary block may prevent a user from winning the unified account - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11149  (10rotemliss_public)
[13:38:18] 	03(mod) Change in Bengali Wikipedia {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11111  (10bellayet)
[13:39:30] 	03(mod)  Temporary block may prevent a user from winning the unified account - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11149  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[13:43:44] 	03(ASSIGNED)  Users can login with global account and create an account in a wiki even if IP is blocked from account creations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11148  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[13:44:29] 	hey ive got an gumax skin on my wikimedia, how can i change the logo on the top of the page
[13:44:54] 	the software is MediaWiki, not Wikimedia...
[13:45:06] 	sorry
[13:45:30] 	yes the faq
[13:45:39] 	actually, the default logo actually tells you how to change it
[13:45:56] 	bah, typo galore
[13:46:36] 	duesentrieb are you german :D?
[13:50:14] 	yep
[13:50:16] 	gotta go, though
[13:52:17] 	vielleicht kannst mir ja auf deutsch antworten ist vielleicht etwas einfacher
[13:56:05] 	03(mod) Finnish Wikinews' sitename, namespace, logo and word forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12103   +shell (10jeluf)
[14:08:37] 	03gri6507 * r27827 10/trunk/extensions/TodoTasks/SpecialTaskList.i18n.php: corrected the locale name for chinese and taiwanese
[14:09:04] 	03siebrand * r27828 10/trunk/phase3/ (20 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:09:04] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[14:09:04] 	* an, be, cs, fi, grc, hr, ie, io (new), kaa, kn, ku-latn, nl, nov (new), pl, pt, qu, stq, tr, wo
[14:24:21] 	03(mod) extra spaces are added to text of link when rendered by wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12104  (10david)
[14:39:19] 	03gri6507 * r27829 10/trunk/extensions/WhoIsWatching/ (3 files): Modified to follow http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_a_new_special_page
[14:45:52] 	Spricht hier jdm deutsch?
[14:47:21] 	03(NEW) File uploading only for sysops and bureaucrats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12105 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (attel0)
[14:47:47] 	I want to show the number of hits like {{numberofarticles}}. is that possible?
[14:49:48] 	:-S
[14:49:50] 	philipp0815: look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words. If you don't find it, it probably doesn't exist
[14:54:05] 	and what can i do if it doesn't exists?
[14:55:08] 	euhm, nothing I think.
[14:55:15] 	That feature does not exist
[14:55:52] 	hm... thanks...
[14:56:50] 	HOLA
[14:56:55] 	SALUDOS A TOODS
[14:57:10] 	no caps, please :)
[14:59:16] 	alguien sabe sobre terminales livianas??+
[14:59:35] 	hi, when i tried to copy a template from wikipedia, i got this jibber:
[14:59:37] 	{{#if:|
[14:59:37] 	}}
[14:59:37] 	{{#ifeq:{{{image}}}|none
[14:59:41] 	and stuff like that
[14:59:45] 	how do i make those parts work?
[15:00:11] 	!parserfunctions | chuck
[15:00:11] 	chuck: "parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see 
[15:00:24] 	thanks
[15:02:52] 	alguien conoce sobre terminales livianas?
[15:06:57] 	03(NEW) import from oldwikisource to hy.wikisource.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12106 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (teak.wiki)
[15:07:32] 	14(DUP)  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12100  +comment (10lejonel)
[15:07:34] 	03(mod) User list includes MediaWiki: Viewprevnext without rendering markup. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11454  +comment (10lejonel)
[15:15:59] 	i can't find the parserfunctions extension
[15:16:08] 	i keep getting bounced around the meta and mediawiki sites
[15:17:16] 	salve!
[15:17:56] 	03siebrand * r27830 10/trunk/extensions/ (46 files in 45 dirs): 
[15:17:56] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[15:17:56] 	* Fixes and additions to 45 extensions for ar, el, fr, frp, grc, hr, hsb, io, ka, nl, pt, stq
[15:18:18] 	do you speak italian?
[15:18:49] 	tmm360: yes, what do you need?
[15:19:06] 	ok grazie
[15:19:31] 	a me servirebbe modificare il mio wiki in maniera di richiedere il log in per poter modificare una pagina...
[15:19:34] 	come posso fare?
[15:19:59] 	sono pieno di spam nella discussione dell'homepage
[15:20:57] 	I must modify my wiki becouse the user must log in for modify all page...
[15:20:58] 	vedi gli esempi in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights
[15:21:26] 	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']              = false;
[15:21:41] 	grazie mille!
[15:21:50] 	ora provo! ;) 
[15:24:04] 	ma inserendo $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; gli utenti che hanno effettuato il log in potranno modificare le pagine
[15:24:05] 	?
[15:24:32] 	!parserfunctions
[15:24:32] 	"parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see 
[15:24:58] 	if i'm using parserfunctions (extended) do i include ParserFunctions.php and Expr.php or just ParserFunctions.php?
[15:25:23] 	tmm360: sĂ¬, perchĂ© in DefaultSettings dovrebbe esserci esplicitamente $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['edit']            = true;
[15:25:45] 	hi, how can i render on a wikimedia page an image that is on another server?
[15:25:54] 	ok grazie!
[15:26:44] 	chuck, just ParserFunctions.php
[15:28:14] 	i'm getting errors: http://charlie.nonlogic.org/bono/Template:Ambox
[15:29:04] 	usually UTF-8 BOM at the beginning - where did you download the files from?
[15:29:51] 	ma perchč mi ritrovo in DefaultSettings anche questo?      
[15:29:51] 	$wgGroupPermissions['*'    ]['edit']            = true;
[15:30:12] 	chuck, download the files again from SVN: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/
[15:30:23] 	okay
[15:31:49] 	TimLaqua: thanks, worked
[15:32:29] 	np
[15:38:06] 	oh, also, when i try to upload images, i always get a Forbidden error when i try to access them directly
[15:38:17] 	03mkroetzsch * r27831 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): First preliminary version of working further results link for #ask
[15:39:55] 	chuck: check for .htaccess files and file / folder perimssions
[15:40:12] 	permissions, even
[15:40:20] 	MZMcBride: i looked at the folder permissions and when the uploader created the folder, it set the perms to like 700
[15:40:51] 	what kind of error do you get when you try to access the files directly?
[15:41:01] 	Forbidden
[15:41:14] 	You don't have permission to access /bono/images/2/25/Info_non-talk.png on this server.
[15:41:34] 	what are the permissions on the actual file?
[15:41:39] 	ahh
[15:42:04] 	sorry, i don't know the octal code, but it's rw-r--r--
[15:42:17] 	so how to add an external image?
[15:43:02] 	Goshawk: you mean display an image hosted elsewhere?
[15:43:15] 	chuck: you should have access then
[15:43:24] 	MZMcBride: yep
[15:44:01] 	no, if i just put the link to the image it's not rendered into the page
[15:44:02] 	MZMcBride: is there any way to make the uploader set the permissions of the created folders to like rwxr-xr-x ?
[15:44:16] 	hmm, not sure
[15:44:31] 	Goshawk: there's a option, hold on...
[15:44:44] 	MZMcBride: ok thanks
[15:44:44] 	chuck, does manually setting that permission on that file make it accessable?
[15:45:03] 	TimLaqua_away: i'll try
[15:45:19] 	!externalimages | Goshawk
[15:45:19] 	Goshawk: To allow images from elsewhere to be included in your wiki, see . To limit this to some specific sources, see .
[15:45:56] 	TimLaqua_away: yep, setting +rx on the 2/ and the 25/ subdirectory made it work
[15:46:01] 	MZMcBride: thansk
[15:46:19] 	no problem
[15:46:40] 	chuck, what's the permission level on the /bono/images directory?
[15:47:31] 	drwxr-xr-x
[15:48:04] 	wierd
[15:48:24] 	an admin on the shell server it runs on says that some weird part of php5 broke it?
[16:12:17] 	is there any way to find things in a wiki database from a previous wiki installation?
[16:13:57] 	03(mod) Finnish Wikinews' sitename, namespace, logo and word forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12103  (10attel0)
[16:38:49] 	okay mediawiki is still being really really stupid, when i upload a file, it creates the directories for that file with permissions 700 so i can't access them with the webservr
[16:38:52] 	any way to fix that?
[16:40:03] 	chuck: isnâ€™t it creating the files using the webserver credentials?
[16:40:30] 	chuck: if so, 700 should be sufficient to allow the web server to subsequently access the files (obviously)
[16:40:44] 	it's making them as bono:bono chmodded 700 because i have suexec and supph
[16:40:49] 	(s/supph/suphp/) correction: it's making them as bono:bono chmodded 700 because i have suexec and suphp
[16:40:59] 	ah
[16:41:17] 	well i'll check in the error log
[16:41:33] 	but the web server is running as bono:bono, then too, no?
[16:42:04] 	well it changes to bono:bono when it runs the file
[16:42:07] 	but i think i found something
[16:42:08] 	[Sun Nov 25 10:41:25 2007] [crit] [client 12.227.165.134] (13)Permission denied: /home/bono/htdocs/html/wiki/images/thumb/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable, referer: http://bono.unixpod.com/wiki/BONO:Sandbox
[16:42:11] 	that's the error
[16:42:34] 	ah, I think I get whatâ€™s happening
[16:42:35] 	i think the webserver checks for the .htaccess file as www-admin or whatever it is
[16:42:48] 	it reads htaccess files before suid'ing
[16:42:54] 	yeah
[16:43:01] 	interesting :)
[16:43:16] 	heh, i wonder if there's a way to fix it though :/
[16:43:18] 	youâ€™ll probably have to modify the code that creates the upload file
[16:43:23] 	s/file/dir
[16:43:27] 	i was afraid of that lol
[16:43:47] 	or disable .htaccess support
[16:43:54] 	yeah, that's what i'm trying right now
[16:45:04] 	now i get this; [Sun Nov 25 10:44:30 2007] [error] [client 12.227.165.134] (13)Permission denied: access to /wiki/images/thumb/2/25/Info_non-talk.png/40px-Info_non-talk.png denied, referer: http://bono.unixpod.com/wiki/BONO:Sandbox
[16:45:37] 	hm
[16:46:40] 	03(NEW) only 50 Results visibel when searching "mailto:" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12107 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: LinkSearch; (michael.frey)
[16:52:09] 	argh, this sucks
[16:52:13] 	i don't know how i can fix this
[16:53:31] 	chuck: did you try googling?
[16:53:34] 	or mwusers.com
[16:53:48] 	MZMcBride: i'm googling right now
[16:57:00] 	okay, I'm going to submit a big change.. and I need some support!
[16:59:13] 	you can do it!
[16:59:25] 	MZMcBride thanks! I pressed the commit button!
[17:00:56] *Hojjat 	has to update release-note file before commiting to it :(
[17:02:34] *Hojjat 	crosses fingers
[17:02:43] 	03huji * r27832 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Fixes bug 9633: Add a predefined list of delete reasons to the deletion form
[17:02:50] 	huh.......
[17:03:28] 	cool
[17:03:31] 	03(FIXED) Add a predefined list of delete reasons to the deletion form - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9633  +comment (10huji.huji)
[17:04:27] 	Hojjat: you seems to know a bit about mediawiki, any idea why my image upload isn't work?
[17:04:29] 	*working
[17:05:09] 	chuck, I'm going to have dinner now (we have guests). If no one helped you in the mean time, we can talk again in, say, 30 to 60 minutes
[17:05:19] 	heh okay
[17:14:17] 	test
[17:14:37] 	more underscores____
[17:14:43] 	alex____: you're coming across loud and clear :P
[17:14:47] 	:p
[17:14:53] 	thank you very much
[17:15:55] 	does anybody know ift there is a proper user management extension for the mediawiki?
[17:16:37] 	fg
[17:17:11] 	alex____: by user management, what exactly are you referring to?
[17:17:13] 	03rotem * r27833 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fixes.
[17:17:23] 	well i need to be able to change user names
[17:17:25] 	03rotem * r27834 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update.
[17:17:26] 	delete users
[17:17:30] 	etc.
[17:17:53] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser
[17:17:58] 	that changes user's names
[17:18:15] 	as for deleting users, it exists but it's unstable and I haven't tested it out yet
[17:18:40] 	thx skizzerz
[17:18:50] 	is wikimedia a fairly new project?
[17:19:22] 	unfortunately i'm now the admin of my college's wiki
[17:19:40] 	and the last admin did a very poor job
[17:20:54] 	argh mediawiki is being so stupid
[17:24:48] 	alex____: deleting users = very bad
[17:24:53] 	just rename them
[17:25:48] 	i just don't understand why? i mean deleting users is essential for every admin 
[17:26:27] 	why hasn't that feature been implemented?
[17:26:38] 	alex____: because deleting a user requires removal off all that user's edits, which would be a GFDL violation
[17:28:21] 	but if the user hasn't made any edits at all
[17:28:22] 	?
[17:28:31] 	then remove them via a SQL query
[17:28:44] 	k
[17:28:53] 	i'll guess i'll do that
[17:28:59] 	03(mod) fi.wikinews: File uploading only for sysops and bureaucrats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12105   +shell; summary (10bleher)
[17:29:10] 	ARE YOU KIDDING?!?
[17:29:43] 	by the way in which directory do i find the LocalSettings.php?
[17:29:54] 	should be in the main directory
[17:30:49] 	ah great somebody installed the wiki twice
[17:30:55] 	wrong directory
[17:31:04] 	hmm?
[17:31:15] 	got it
[17:32:40] 	alex____: found a somewhat roundabout way to delete users...
[17:32:50] 	but it's stable
[17:33:36] 	stable or unstable?
[17:33:41] 	chuck what news?
[17:33:52] 	Hojjat: still having problems :-(
[17:34:04] 	okay, tell me the story again
[17:34:51] 	Hojjat: my mediawiki installation's file upload makes the directories in the images/ directory with 700 permissions, so the webserver gives a forbidden error when i try to access images
[17:35:14] 	try 755?
[17:35:34] 	yeah, that is a good suggestion
[17:36:05] 	Skizzerz: but how do i get the uploader to set those permissions everytime something gets uploaded?
[17:36:32] 	just set the folder permission to 755, everything in it should inherit that permission IIRC
[17:36:45] 	it already is and it doesn't
[17:37:38] 	then, I have no idea :(
[17:38:38] 	03(mod) Change in Bengali Wikipedia {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11111   +shell; +comment (10huji.huji)
[17:39:32] 	chuck, what exactly is uploaded?
[17:39:46] 	Hojjat: i tried a .png and a .svg file
[17:40:02] 	chuck, I mean, what are you uploading this file for?
[17:40:13] 	a message box for the wiki
[17:40:21] 	chuck, then I'm confused
[17:40:34] 	Hojjat: about what? lol
[17:40:42] 	Why don't you upload them directly via wiki then?
[17:41:01] 	as you may know, files uploaded from the Special:Upload are '''not''' uploaded to a folder, but to the database
[17:41:13] 	Hojjat: no...
[17:41:20] 	?
[17:41:21] 	Hojjat: then what's in images/ and images/thumb/
[17:41:36] 	i am uploading via Special:Upload
[17:41:49] 	oh pity
[17:41:50] 	wait
[17:44:56] 	chuck, yeah. My bad :(
[17:46:10] 	chuck, and what do you get if you set the directory to 755, and create a file there yourself, manually?
[17:46:18] 	Will the file be 755 this way?
[17:46:27] 	if i do it manually it works
[17:51:41] 	i'm trying to develop an extension and I'm trying to figure out how to add pages to the watchlist
[17:51:45] 	chuck.. can't figure why. Anyways, I'm not a Linux expert
[17:52:03] 	does anyone know how to do that?
[17:54:22] 	Prodigion: like, normally or via the extension you mentioned
[17:54:30] 	via extension
[17:54:36] *Skizzerz 	checks
[17:54:37] 	hey, what are you doing here :P
[17:54:44] 	hmm?
[17:54:47] *Prodigion 	is Prod
[17:54:48] 	ah
[17:54:50] 	hi
[17:55:31] *Skizzerz 	is assuming you're writing for 1.9 then?
[17:55:39] 	or 1.11 ;)
[17:55:43] 	ok :P
[18:00:04] 	hmmm....I should be able to pull this info about of SpecialWatchlist.php
[18:00:14] 	Prodigion: actually, WatchedItem.php
[18:02:18] 	hmmm....it might be easier to make this for 1.11 I think
[18:02:27] 	has some new watchlist features that arent there in 1.9
[18:05:01] 	03(mod) Special:Undelete should have "select all" checkbox or " inverse selection" button - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10323  (10huji.huji)
[18:09:07] 	14(WFM) External Image Links doesn't work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12045  +comment (10bleher)
[18:11:45] 	03(FIXED) FileCache incorrectly caches multipage image pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9558  +comment (10bleher)
[18:14:22] 	03siebrand * r27836 10/trunk/extensions/Purge/ (Purge.i18n.php Purge.php): 
[18:14:22] 	Adding i18n file (bugzilla 12088)
[18:14:22] 	Submitted by: Bertrand GRONDIN
[18:14:36] 	03(FIXED) creating internationalization files for Purge extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12088  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:15:04] 	03(FIXED) creating internationalization files for SpamDiffTool extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12086  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:17:15] 	03(FIXED) update french translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12043  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:19:12] 	03(NEW) MediaFunctions extension: Add a function #mediapages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12108 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bleher)
[18:21:30] 	03(mod) Finnish Wikinews' sitename, namespace and word forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12103  summary (10attel0)
[18:21:44] 	03(mod) MediaFunctions extension: Add a function #mediapages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12108  (10bleher)
[18:24:51] 	siebrand: Is SpamDiffTool.i18n.php in UTF-8 ?
[18:25:03] 	Li-sung: I'll check
[18:25:28] 	Li-sung: nope. Fixing
[18:29:41] 	03siebrand * r27838 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): 
[18:29:41] 	* Add support for Purge and SpamDiffTool
[18:29:41] 	* Change support for WhoIsWatching
[18:29:52] 	Li-sung: fixed.
[18:33:47] 	03siebrand * r27839 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Fix formatting issues
[18:38:27] 	03siebrand * r27840 10/trunk/extensions/WhoIsWatching/SpecialWhoIsWatching.i18n.php: Add localisation for ar, hsb, nl
[18:38:45] 	03siebrand * r27841 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Fix typo
[18:40:22] 	If you install mediawiki via apt-get on an ubuntu system, how do you get a symbolic link in /var/www?
[18:49:28] 	03siebrand * r27842 10/trunk/extensions/WhoIsWatching/SpecialWhoIsWatching.i18n.php: Fix syntax errors ("=" -> "=>" (4x))
[19:02:40] 	Hi
[19:05:57] 	03(mod)  Return after edit sections using headings with wikilinks returns to other anchors then the ones used in TOC - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2831  (10t.laqua)
[19:08:40] 	03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9426  (10t.laqua)
[19:13:42] 	what's up w/ all the old bugs lying around?  like http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7681 - shouldn't we just close stuff like that?
[19:27:31] 	03(NEW) Namespaces localization in Ido Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12109 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (malafaya)
[19:35:25] 	03(mod) Namespaces localization in Ido Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12109   +shell (10malafaya)
[19:36:10] 	Is there a mod about who can deal with and right royally bitchslap encyclopedia dramatica?
[19:36:21] 	Sorry, still shaking with rage
[19:37:16] 	the page on ED is Arkady.  She's a friend of mine, menatlly ill, the photo's are being used without her permission, and quite frankly under Britsih Law what is being done on that page is *very* illegal
[19:44:04] 	Hm.
[19:44:12] 	This is an odd thing the Cite Extension is doing...
[19:44:19] 	It prints a log of itself on my wiki.
[19:44:23] 	On every page.
[19:44:29] 	The wiki is still workable.
[19:44:42] 	But it is really really EXTREMELY annoying.
[19:44:57] 	Are you a mod?
[19:45:12] 	What do you mean?
[19:45:56] 	How do I make a complaint about the Encyclopedia Dramatica?
[19:46:16] 	Why would you make a complaint about it?
[19:46:24] 	you don't? If you don't find it funny, just don't go there
[19:46:56] 	Public ridiculing of mentally ill people.  And she found it on google by mistake.
[19:47:16] 	So blatantly out of order it's a joke.
[19:47:20] 	christhegoth: that's not anything new...
[19:47:32] 	doesn't mean it's ok....
[19:47:32] 	Welcome to the Internet.
[19:47:40] 	Prepare to be offended.
[19:48:00] 	There are no rules here.
[19:48:06] 	Wow, what a great and very professional attitude.  Hatecrime considered ok....
[19:48:06] 	Tread carefully.
[19:48:16] 	as for the pic, if it's on google, they can claim fair use, and you can't really do much about it (because they follow US copyright laws, not british, IIRC)
[19:48:18] 	I did not say I endorse it.
[19:48:33] 	I said it is the way it is.
[19:48:56] 	Erm, there are rules on the internet.  It's called IP logging and Ripe etc etc.  And the civil and criminal laws of the country hosting the server....
[19:49:09] 	So where do I make a complaint?
[19:49:20] 	no idea
[19:49:35] 	*headdesks*
[19:49:37] 	To the admin of the wiki?
[19:49:42] 	To the owner of the domain?
[19:49:50] 	To the hosting service abuse address?
[19:49:51] 	Have you heard about freedom of speech?
[19:49:54] 	I know, it sucks.
[19:49:54] 	ZeiP: it's ED, the admins won't care one bit...
[19:50:02] 	But someone thought it was a good idea.
[19:50:05] 	christhegoth: this is the channel for development and support for the mediawiki software
[19:50:07] 	None of them probably will do anything about it, but you can complain as much as you like.
[19:50:16] 	Exactly!
[19:50:16] 	the software is licensed for anyone and everyone to use
[19:50:23] 	I think we've left the scope of this channel
[19:50:24] 	Ok, cheers Guys.
[19:50:25] 	Now tell me with the Cite Extension is being evil!
[19:50:28] 	Skizzerz, yeah, but if he only wants to complain, that's the almost-correct address :P
[19:50:30] 	>:O
[19:50:42] 	it's licensed without liability, see Special:Version
[19:52:39] 	-_- anyone familiar with how titles are assigned to Special Pages? An extension I have keeps buggering up in that regard
[19:53:00] 	Skizzerz: which extension?
[19:53:05] 	ChangeAuthor
[19:54:14] 	I'm guessing the bug lies in http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.body.php , but I haven't been able to successfully modify it to work properly
[19:54:23] 	looks like he's storing it in changeauthor-short
[19:54:45] 	yeah
[19:54:51] 	I've tried changing that to no avail
[19:55:02] 	what's the problem you're having?
[19:55:14] 	hold on a sec, lemme re-enable it...
[19:55:44] 	(it's a bad title error, though)
[19:57:43] 	what exactly is the error?
[19:57:53] 	TimLaqua: ok, the error itself is here: http://maplestreetwiki.x10hosting.com/wiki/Special:ChangeAuthor
[19:58:37] 	wiki/Special:%26lt%3Bchangeauthor-short%26gt%3B - icky.
[19:58:43] 	yeah... I know
[19:58:56] 	did you forget to copy the .i18n file?
[19:59:00] 	creating the page MediaWiki:Changeauthor-short doesn't help either
[19:59:03] 	no, it's there
[19:59:19] *MZMcBride 	shrugs
[19:59:22] 	it's beta
[20:00:02] 	yeah, but I'm more bugged by the fact that I can't figure out how to fix it so I can submit a patch to make it work
[20:00:40] 	Skizzerz: u using the SVN version?
[20:00:43] 	yes
[20:02:10] 	brb
[20:17:25] 	03(mod) Namespaces localization in Ido Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12109  15enhancement->minor (10malafaya)
[20:19:13] 	03tlaqua * r27843 10/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.body.php: Moved call to parent::__construct below call to self::loadMessages - was throwing Bad Title error (it couldn't fine changeauthor-short in the message cache).
[20:19:38] 	Skizzerz_Away: download the new version - it should work fine now.
[20:19:57] 	TimLaqua: did you file for a cloak?
[20:20:17] 	yeah
[20:20:25] *TimLaqua 	pokes seanw
[20:20:29] 	;-)
[20:20:44] 	i was just going to tell you that getting an unaffiliated/ takes two seconds
[20:20:58] 	but... i'm very affiliated!
[20:22:38] 	haha, it can at least as an intermediary cloak 
[20:23:11] 	+act
[20:23:43] 	what's the last seen irc command?
[20:23:53] 	like for the last time someone was on?
[20:24:21] 	!last TimLaqua 
[20:24:23] 	Er.
[20:24:25] 	!seen TimLaqua 
[20:24:29] 	That's the one.
[20:24:48] 	hmmm
[20:24:52] 	Actually there's no ChanServ here, it seems some other bot is answering.  Unless unilinky is ChanServ in disguise.
[20:25:17] 	Services have been ignoring me when I try to PM them.  :(
[20:25:27] 	Other than for identify.
[20:25:40] 	!seen RoanKattouw
[20:26:48] 	!seen Simetrical
[20:27:35] 	Simetrical: do you know how the sitematrix is controlled?
[20:27:54] 	I don't even know what it is.
[20:28:02] 	ok :) 
[20:28:08] 	Special:SiteMatrix
[20:28:52] 	MZMcBride: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/
[20:29:55] 	ialex: thanks; i'm rather surprised it's not editable
[20:42:28] 	arbcom-en missing in wikipediaSpecial in SiteMatrix ;)
[20:42:50] 	the sitematrix needs tuning
[20:46:04] 	Hello
[20:46:09] 	hi guys, what's the best (as in: currently supported and developed) extension to add support for  tags to a Mediawiki ?
[20:46:39] <Bucciarati>	i have seen this: http://www.transarte.net/mediawiki/index.php/Iframe but i don't know if there is something better
[20:47:21] <Duesentrieb_>	Bucciarati: do you want to allow anyone to put anything in an iframe anywhere? or do you need this for something specific?
[20:48:00] <TimLaqua>	!htmlets
[20:48:00] <mwbot>	For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[20:48:12] <Bucciarati>	Duesentrieb_: i need just one iframe on the homepage and one in another internal page
[20:48:38] <Duesentrieb_>	Bucciarati: then do as TimLaqua suggested and use HTMLets :)
[20:48:41] <MZMcBride>	htmlets is probably your best bet; very easy to use
[20:49:00] <Bucciarati>	ok i'm looking into it
[20:49:09] <TimLaqua>	and if you don't like it, we know who developed it.  ;-)
[20:49:20] <Bucciarati>	heh :)
[20:49:22] <Scurz>	hi here
[20:49:25] <Duesentrieb_>	actually, jimbojw recently created a similar extension that lets you put raw html into the MediWiki: namespace
[20:49:33] <Duesentrieb_>	it's kind of an on-wiki veariant of htmlets
[20:49:49] <MZMcBride>	hmm, that sounds interesting
[20:50:15] <MZMcBride>	still dangerous if you have a lot of sysops
[20:50:23] <TimLaqua>	evil sysops....
[20:50:33] <Scurz>	I try that http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Preventing_access#Restrict_anonymous_editing but the $wgGroupPermissions variable doesn't exist, what to do ?
[20:50:49] <Scurz>	in my LocalSettings.php file
[20:50:51] <TimLaqua>	!defaultsettings
[20:50:53] <MZMcBride>	err.. add it
[20:50:59] *TimLaqua 	pokes mwbot
[20:51:01] <MZMcBride>	!userrights
[20:51:01] <mwbot>	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[20:51:25] <Duesentrieb_>	MZMcBride: sysops can edit site css. if they snap, they can do whatever to you.
[20:51:32] <Duesentrieb_>	err, site js, more importantly
[20:51:58] <MZMcBride>	yeah, i don't like that one bit; i think the editcssjs right should be split
[20:52:17] <Duesentrieb_>	yes, that would be nice
[20:52:31] <MZMcBride>	seems like a security hole, esp. on larger wikis (en.wiki, de.wiki)
[20:52:37] <Duesentrieb_>	yes
[20:52:44] *MZMcBride 	goes to file a bug
[20:52:46] *Duesentrieb_ 	huggles his Gadgets extension
[20:53:13] <Telemac>	I'm trying to setup Centralauth. I've changed wgCentralAuthDatabase because I don't want to store in a database named 'centralauth', but when I try to login it still look for 'centralauth' database.
[20:53:52] <RougeAdmin>	well
[20:53:58] <Telemac>	Does it caches configuration anywhere ?
[20:54:00] <Scurz>	thanks
[20:54:06] <RougeAdmin>	Telemac: centralauth as the db name is hardcoded in the code somewhere
[20:54:17] <RougeAdmin>	CentralAuth is currently a lame hack. Don't use it.
[20:54:59] <Telemac>	RougeAdmin: so what could I use to share user account in a wiki family ?
[20:55:24] <RougeAdmin>	well
[20:55:30] <RougeAdmin>	I have a hack that works nicely
[20:55:33] <RougeAdmin>	lemme get the URL
[20:56:24] <RougeAdmin>	ack, sorry, apparently .pastey.net is down now :(
[20:58:09] <Telemac>	?
[20:58:33] <RougeAdmin>	http://internal.pastey.net/ - it's there, but pastey.net seems to be down today
[21:00:45] <Bucciarati>	installed htmlets. why do the files need to end in .html ??!?
[21:00:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Split user right "editusercssjs" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12110 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (MZMcBride)
[21:00:59] <Bucciarati>	    $name .= '.html'; #append html ending, for added security and conveniance
[21:01:02] <Duesentrieb_>	Bucciarati: security feature
[21:01:09] <Bucciarati>	i don't see any security in this ..
[21:01:45] <Bucciarati>	ok i'll just simlynk the .html to the original extensionless file ..
[21:01:49] <Duesentrieb_>	Bucciarati: simple: people can't include your LocalSettings.php this way. or your .htaccess. or your /etc/passwd
[21:02:02] <Duesentrieb_>	Bucciarati: it's restricted by path, and by extension.
[21:02:28] <Duesentrieb_>	restricting by path has several pitfalls. appending an extension is foolproof
[21:02:32] <Bucciarati>	heh
[21:02:41] <Duesentrieb_>	you can of course hack it to not do that.
[21:02:41] <Bucciarati>	lrwxrwxrwx  1 www-data www-data 11 2007-11-25 22:24 cpoj.html -> /etc/passwd
[21:02:54] <Duesentrieb_>	yes, if you are evil :=)
[21:03:01] <Bucciarati>	http://linuxvar.it/index.php/Utente:Buccia/Sandbox#vlocate
[21:03:04] <Duesentrieb_>	i *could* check realpath too :P
[21:03:12] <Bucciarati>	yes they can
[21:05:39] <Bucciarati>	anyway thanks, it does what i need :P
[21:09:14] <Bucciarati>	anyway if someone can create/edit files on the documentroot, they can create much more havoc than just showing my passwd
[21:09:26] <Bucciarati>	so i see it more as a limitation than as a "security" feature
[21:09:43] <TimLaqua_away>	I think you're alone on that one.  ;-)
[21:09:50] <Bucciarati>	hm :|
[21:10:01] <Telemac>	Is it possible to setup wiki in family to shared user account ?
[21:10:20] <TimLaqua_away>	!centralauth
[21:10:42] <RougeAdmin>	TimLaqua, CentralAuth is evil ;-)
[21:10:44] <MZMcBride>	Telemac: it's difficult to merge different wikis because of how user ids are setup
[21:10:53] <TimLaqua>	;-)
[21:11:18] <TimLaqua>	SOP for shared accounts is to hack all the wikis in to using the same user table
[21:11:35] *MZMcBride 	shudders
[21:11:55] <Telemac>	TimeLaquo: what's SOP ?
[21:12:02] <Simetrical>	"standard operating procedure"
[21:12:04] <Simetrical>	I suppose.
[21:12:26] <TimLaqua>	!sop
[21:12:26] <mwbot>	Standard Operating Procedure
[21:12:29] <TimLaqua>	lol
[21:16:15] <Telemac>	and can it be setup for mediawiki ?
[21:17:03] <minute>	Is there any reason MediaWiki would change the hostname it goes to when you save a page or click go? I have my wiki set up so I am running to seperate sites in the same directory just with different hosts. The default is hosta.org and that works fine, hostb.org also works fine - except when I try to save an edit or click go in which case it switches to hosta.org. Anyone have any idea why?
[21:20:45] <minute>	It is really irritating.
[21:20:51] <Duesentrieb_>	minute:  mediawiki tries to guess the host it is on. this may go wrong somethimes
[21:21:00] <minute>	Why does it need to?
[21:21:13] <ialex>	minute: check $wgServer
[21:21:15] <Duesentrieb_>	minute: set $wgServer and $wgServerName
[21:21:15] <TimLaqua>	!$wgserver
[21:21:15] <mwbot>	The base URL of the server, including protocol and without the trailing slash. (eg, "http://www.mediawiki.org")  For further information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgServer>
[21:21:20] <minute>	Oh, thanks.
[21:21:24] *minute 	will try.
[21:21:34] <Duesentrieb_>	hm...
[21:21:36] <Duesentrieb_>	@wgserver
[21:21:39] <Duesentrieb_>	@search wgserver
[21:21:39] <mwbot>	Results: [$wgserver, servername]
[21:21:48] <Duesentrieb_>	ahhh... a dupe :)
[21:21:58] <minute>	!servername del
[21:21:58] <mwbot>	Successfully removed keyword: servername
[21:22:09] <minute>	!servername is $wgserver
[21:22:09] <mwbot>	Successfully added keyword: servername
[21:22:15] <minute>	argh
[21:22:19] <TimLaqua>	!servername del
[21:22:19] <mwbot>	Successfully removed keyword: servername
[21:22:27] <TimLaqua>	!servername alias $wgserver
[21:22:27] <mwbot>	Successfully added alias: servername
[21:22:29] <MZMcBride>	minute: use #mwbot
[21:23:03] <PotatoHead>	hi guys..have a question.. it is possible to run the mediawiki on a ms sql server express 2005 ?
[21:23:15] <minute>	MZMcBride: You think I should use #mwbot for one change that may be of  concern to other people in this channel?
[21:23:20] <PotatoHead>	didnt found anything about it on the page
[21:23:22] <minute>	PotatoHead: nope
[21:23:36] <MZMcBride>	minute: can't hurt :)
[21:24:04] <PotatoHead>	oh ok are there any known problems with mysql and mssql ?
[21:24:26] <TimLaqua>	eh?
[21:24:41] <TimLaqua>	you mean running the two on the same server?
[21:25:04] <PotatoHead>	yeah have a sbs 2003 with iis and mssql
[21:25:23] <TimLaqua>	should be fine
[21:25:37] <PotatoHead>	so minute write its not possible to run mw on mssql
[21:25:48] <PotatoHead>	so i want to install the mysql too
[21:26:00] <PotatoHead>	is it possible
[21:27:01] <minute>	probably
[21:27:30] <Simetrical>	PotatoHead, there's a patch floating around that gets an old version of MW to work with MSSQL.  It's not officially supported, not enough interest.
[21:27:39] <Simetrical>	So it's outdated and may be buggy.
[21:27:54] <PotatoHead>	so its no option...
[21:27:58] <Simetrical>	You can always install MySQL alongside MSSQL, although of course more apps means more sysadmin headache.
[21:28:12] <Simetrical>	Not really.  Unless you want to use an old version with a possibly-buggy patch applied to it.
[21:28:21] <Simetrical>	Or write/maintain a patch yourself.
[21:28:44] <PotatoHead>	lol..no way.. im not a programmer... :-(
[21:29:08] <PotatoHead>	and i dont want use an old version...
[21:29:46] <PotatoHead>	sysadmin headache = more work ?
[21:30:34] <Simetrical>	Well, yes.  You have to maintain one extra piece of software.
[21:31:53] <PotatoHead>	ok...are there known probs or could anybody tell me where i can watch out for probably probs ? 
[21:32:22] <Simetrical>	Problems in what?
[21:33:02] <minute>	ialex, TimLaqua_away: Thanks, it worked brilliant :)
[21:33:11] <PotatoHead>	in runnig the two sql servers on one machine
[21:33:39] <minute>	no
[21:34:39] <ialex>	minute: yes or no ?
[21:35:06] <minute>	yes...
[21:35:15] <PotatoHead>	??
[21:35:30] <minute>	PotatoHead: There should be no problblems.
[21:36:40] <PotatoHead>	mmhh ok... thx
[21:41:58] <Simetrical>	Heh, funny thing: I get a URL from communityseo.com with interesting results, and am told I have to log in to access the page.
[21:42:10] <Simetrical>	Community SEO, maybe, but white-hat, maybe not so much.
[21:42:13] *Simetrical 	reports them to Google
[22:14:44] *Shannie 	pokes around.
[22:15:14] <Shannie>	Would anyone happen to know the prefix for the OTRS wiki? >_>
[22:18:30] <MZMcBride>	Shannie: http://otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org/ i believe
[22:19:10] <Shannie>	MZMcBride: I found it. otrs_wikiwiki. :)
[22:19:18] <MZMcBride>	:)
[22:33:40] <^demon>	Stupid question for someone who knows something about Perl's sha1_base64().
[22:34:46] <str4nd>	Just ask it.
[22:35:13] <^demon>	What's the PHP equivalent?
[22:35:23] <^demon>	base64(sha1())?
[22:35:48] <Duesentrieb_>	prolly
[22:35:53] <str4nd>	I guess it is
[22:36:17] <str4nd>	base64_encode maybe
[22:36:20] <Simetrical>	That seems unlikely, doesn't sha1() output a hexadecimal string by default?
[22:36:28] <^demon>	Yes.
[22:36:30] <Simetrical>	What does sha1_base64() do?
[22:36:45] <^demon>	It produces a base64'd digest of the sha1 string.
[22:36:48] <Simetrical>	I thought a hexadecimal string in base64 would be unchanged . . . hmm . . . let me look it up.
[22:36:50] <Duesentrieb_>	base64_encode(sha1($x)), rather
[22:37:07] <Simetrical>	. . . I totally fail to see the point of base64ing a hexadecimal string.
[22:37:15] <^demon>	So do I.
[22:37:18] <^demon>	But it wasn't my choice.
[22:37:21] <Duesentrieb_>	if it's hex, then it's pointless
[22:37:39] <Duesentrieb_>	if it's binary, then base64 is more compact than hex
[22:37:42] <Simetrical>	If they were base64-encoding the binary, that would make somewhat more sense.
[22:37:47] <Simetrical>	Right.
[22:38:01] <Simetrical>	Because base64 uses six bits out of every eight, while hex only uses four.
[22:38:02] <Duesentrieb_>	maybe perl's thingy does just that?
[22:38:13] <^demon>	Lemmie find the Perl reference for it.
[22:38:30] <^demon>	http://kobesearch.cpan.org/htdocs/Digest-SHA/Digest/SHA.html#strong_sha1_base64_data_strong
[22:38:32] <Duesentrieb_>	hex is 2-for-1, base64 is what, 4-for-3?
[22:38:40] <Simetrical>	Right.
[22:39:16] <Duesentrieb_>	base64_encode(sha1($x, true)) then
[22:39:23] <Duesentrieb_>	the true enabled "raw mode"
[22:39:26] <Duesentrieb_>	(binary)
[22:39:28] <Simetrical>	Yes, that should work, I think.
[22:39:43] *^demon 	hopes so
[22:40:56] <Duesentrieb_>	^demon: run both, compare results
[22:41:32] <^demon>	I shall.
[22:42:34] <^demon>	Reason being, some genius originally wrote this log in script in Perl and encoded the passwords using sha1_base64(). Now we're porting to PHP, and I have to figure out how to make all the passwords backwards compatible.
[22:43:01] <chuck>	hi, i moved mediawiki to a new server, and i've gotten it all setup and working with rewrite rules, but when i try to edit a page, it instead goes to: "Editing Index.php". any ideas why?
[22:44:21] <MZMcBride>	chuck: sounds like htaccess problems
[22:44:29] <Simetrical>	chuck, what exactly does it display?
[22:44:42] <Simetrical>	chuck, a screenshot would help.
[22:44:56] <chuck>	Simetrical, see it for yourself: http://bono.unixpod.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit
[22:45:00] <Duesentrieb_>	it sounds like the reqrite rules are broken, or don't match what you have in localsettings.php
[22:45:10] <chuck>	instead of editing Main_Page, it tries to create Index.php
[22:45:26] <Simetrical>	Yeah, broken rewrite somehow.
[22:45:30] <Duesentrieb_>	chuck: because, perhaps, you rewrite /wiki/* ?
[22:45:42] <chuck>	i'll show you my rewrite file
[22:45:43] <Duesentrieb_>	@search reqrite
[22:45:43] <mwbot>	Results: []
[22:45:46] <Duesentrieb_>	@search rewrite
[22:45:46] <mwbot>	Results: [rewriteproblem]
[22:45:52] <MZMcBride>	actually the url isn't being rewritten, it looks like
[22:45:59] <Duesentrieb_>	!rewriteproblem | chuck 
[22:45:59] <mwbot>	chuck : a) do not put the files into the document root b) do not map the pages into the document root c) use different pathes for real files and virtual pages d) do not set a RewriteBase e) but all rules into the .htacces in the document root.
[22:46:02] <MZMcBride>	looks like a LocalSettings bug
[22:46:05] <chuck>	it's this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_PHP_as_a_CGI_module%2C_no_root_access
[22:46:20] <chuck>	ah
[22:46:35] <Duesentrieb_>	it's actually pretty clear: violation of point c)
[22:46:40] <chuck>	yeah
[22:46:52] <Duesentrieb_>	\o/
[22:47:04] *MZMcBride 	admits to also making that mistake once
[22:47:11] <MZMcBride>	you live, you learn
[22:47:17] <MZMcBride>	you revert
[22:47:35] <Duesentrieb_>	very common one
[22:48:00] <Duesentrieb_>	especially in the variant "put everything into docroot"
[22:48:48] <chuck>	awesome, works
[22:52:54] <FreeNom>	nite all...
[23:17:23] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) robots.txt changes for de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wiki.bugzilla)
[23:21:16] <sebas891>	hello folks! I'm looking for a way to insert a simple html form in a page. any pointers? 
[23:22:52] <sebas891>	I don't want to store any data, it's only a way to loggin an external web apps. 
[23:30:54] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) import from oldwikisource to hy.wikisource.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12106  +comment (10teak.wiki)
[23:33:55] <MZMcBride>	sebas891: sorry, didn't see your question
[23:33:58] <MZMcBride>	!htmlets
[23:33:58] <mwbot>	For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[23:34:49] <sebas891>	MZMcBride: thanks. I'll at the 2 extensions mentionned. 
[23:56:58] <t0lk>	I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but I would like to do some combination of wikinews and google news, where the site will show feeds from certain websites, but users can also submit and edit content
[23:57:03] <t0lk>	does anything like that exist?
[23:57:15] <Daverto>	Can someone help me? I need to know how to get the Template:Company template working on my wiki.
[23:58:06] <missingno390>	Hello all.  How difficult is it to run MediaWiki on a Windows XP desktop computer?
[23:58:29] <t0lk>	Daverto, do you have parserfunctions installed on your wiki?
[23:58:42] <missingno390>	Hello all.  How difficult is it to run MediaWiki on a Windows XP desktop computer?
[23:58:43] <Daverto>	no, i have never heard of it.
[23:58:55] <TimLaqua_away>	!parserfunctions
[23:58:55] <mwbot>	"Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Parser_function>. For details about the extension, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions>.
[23:58:55] <t0lk>	you need that to get most templates working
[23:59:00] <missingno390>	Hello all.  How difficult is it to run MediaWiki on a Windows XP desktop computer?
[23:59:15] <missingno390>	(sry for spamming, I don't like it when people ignore me)
[23:59:25] <Daverto>	missingno390 , get Wamp and the mediawiki code, install on the server
[23:59:32] <Daverto>	not hard at all
[23:59:32] <missingno390>	It's a desktop computer.
[23:59:35] <Simetrical>	missingno390, not hard.  I've done it.
[23:59:39] <missingno390>	how?
[23:59:44] <missingno390>	What's Wamp?
[23:59:45] <Simetrical>	As Daverto says.
[23:59:50] <TimLaqua_away>	!xampp | missingno390
[23:59:50] <mwbot>	missingno390: XAMPP is an easy to install bundle of Apache, MySQL, PHP, Perl, and more stuff, available for all popular operating systems - see <http://www.apachefriends.org/de/xampp.html>. For installing MediaWiki on XAMPP, see <http://tinyurl.com/2shgph> and also <http://www.nat32.com/xampp/wiki.htm>.