[00:00:01] missingno390: So? All versions of windows are desktop versions :/ [00:00:19] Not Windows NT 4 Server or Windows Server 2003. [00:00:32] Then what's the GUI for? :P [00:00:41] There's your desktop :) [00:02:16] k [00:02:49] uh, the link that was given to me did not work [00:03:03] "This page doesn't currently exist; you can search this title in other pages or edit this page." [00:03:11] and nobody in their right mind would call windows server 2k3 a 'desktop os' [00:03:20] Daverto: which link? [00:03:27] both [00:03:30] wait [00:03:39] my fault (spelt it wrong) [00:03:44] k [00:06:02] ok, how do I enable it? it is exacly what I need [00:06:25] you need ParserFunctions for most of the popular Wikipedia templates [00:07:58] Daverto: in addition to ParserFunctions, all these template dependencies have to exist http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_Company&action=edit [00:08:10] it lists the transcluded templates at the bottom [00:08:26] and some of thsoe can transclude other templates. [00:08:26] yeah, I've been putting them in [00:09:14] a stupid question, what is the syntax to link to another bug in bugzilla? is it just [[_bug number_]]? [00:09:48] teak, no, just type "bug 1234" with no special markup. [00:09:49] hi all, btw ;) sorry, running out of my mind :] [00:09:56] Simetrical, thanks! [00:10:07] Same for bug 1234 comment 5, etc. [00:10:13] [[wiki page]] works too. [00:17:49] Simetrical :) thank you. [00:21:40] 03(NEW) Change of Armenian NS_POJECT namespaces, Wikisource name - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12112 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (teak.wiki) [00:24:26] Hallo. [00:25:11] Weiß einer von euch evtl. ob und wie man die Vorlagen aus Wikipedia in seinem Wiki nutzen kann? [00:33:18] TimLaqua_away , are you still there? [00:34:14] allright [00:34:19] can someone help me? [00:34:59] 03(NEW) Switch Armenian Wikisource logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12113 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (teak.wiki) [00:35:16] i am still having problems with the Template:Company . and I do not know what the problem is, I do have ParserFunctions? [00:35:36] may i use wikipedia commons for other wiki, with only write [[image:xxx]] [00:36:23] anyone? [00:37:46] no ddenkel [00:37:53] i do not think that will work [00:37:55] why? [00:38:01] they don't allow it [00:38:10] for server problems or? [00:38:19] I was at wikimania and there is a group that wanted that exact thing, but at that time, it didn't exist [00:38:32] t0lk , can you help me with my problem? [00:38:43] you installed parserfunctions? [00:38:45] Daverto [00:38:48] yes [00:39:02] can i see your site? [00:39:07] i think, they dont accept for server problems [00:39:18] ok ddenkel, i am not too sure [00:39:22] thanks so much [00:39:23] sure: http://71.211.22.126/wiki/ [00:39:37] it is on a WAMP server. [00:40:07] well what I was looking for is this, on a template with parserfucntions the tabs at the top will be smaller, and disconnecte from the rest of the page [00:40:10] if its not working [00:40:12] is that what you see? [00:40:57] well, let me show you the exact problem, search or Project 13 [00:41:53] ok [00:42:31] The tabs look like Wikipedia's tabs (I wouldn't know smaller, but it is not disconnected, if I understand what you are saying) [00:43:29] ok, I don't know a lot, but every time I had problems with parserfunctions that was the result, the smaller and disconnected tabs lol [00:43:46] but I was working on a linux box [00:43:49] or something [00:43:54] hmm, nope, they look normal [00:44:17] can you see the wiki (I have to port forward and sometimes it is a pain) [00:44:27] nah i got a forbidden message [00:44:55] with a red (pink like) background? [00:45:01] no [00:45:07] just white, with "Forbidden" lol [00:45:30] wait! [00:45:34] now try it [00:45:58] (forgot to put server to allow outside access) [00:47:04] ahh ok I think it working now lol [00:47:17] you can stop it from showing "index.php" in the title if you want [00:47:26] how? [00:47:45] let me see if this works, i've never tried: [00:47:47] !shorturl [00:47:47] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [00:47:57] ahh it did [00:47:58] lol [00:48:47] anyway, how do you know that parserfunctions is not working? [00:49:48] well, I was getting some really wierd errors from PHP when I put in the code on LocalSettings, but I set it up to read from the local disk, this is a windows server [00:50:09] require_once( 'C:\wamp\www\wiki\extensions\ParserFunctions\ParserFunctions.php' ); [00:50:14] that is what i put in [00:51:35] ok, did that help or no? [00:51:46] still reading :P [00:53:30] 'lo.. Any thoughts on creating a FAQ styling within mediawiki with automatically generated forward/back links? Put em all in the namespace or category then use an appropriate hook to generate the pages? [00:57:05] Does anyone know much about content management software? [00:57:27] CMS? Love em. [00:57:40] lol [00:58:00] also, CMS stands for Content Management System [00:58:02] i'd like to build one that just pulled and displayed news feeds from select sources but also allowed me to add content myself [00:58:15] hmm. [00:58:19] does anything like that exist? [00:58:32] brb [00:58:40] I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems [00:58:58] but I don't know how to navigate them [00:59:27] so a online RSS reader and extra content? [00:59:35] yeah [00:59:51] allright [01:00:14] do you want the feed to be set up by the CMS? [01:00:26] yeah [01:00:32] then i wouldn't have to do anything right? [01:00:32] lol [01:00:43] use a blog like Wordpress [01:01:12] http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2143 [01:01:13] i was thinking along the lines of something like news.google.com [01:01:22] but from sources i choose [01:01:51] something like digg, but you add the content? [01:01:58] not users? [01:02:12] yah [01:02:32] hmmm, that is something I have never tried..... [01:02:38] it would be nice if the users could actually write to the site like wikinews but i think that would be impossible lol [01:02:38] *looks* [01:02:57] i just want to display from a small group of news sources [01:03:43] is that something that is possible with software like Joomla or Mambo? [01:03:44] I dont think there is any CMS which will throw that together easily [01:04:15] hmm, ok [01:04:24] http://www.opensourcecms.com/ [01:04:28] look around there. [01:04:36] it is a awesome site for CMS [01:04:44] ok great [01:04:46] you can demo any of the CMSs ther [01:04:47] thank you :d [01:04:52] np! [01:06:43] cutenews is a lite interface that might do it [01:06:43] http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2131 [01:06:58] It has a RSS system [01:07:52] ohh interesting [01:07:54] thank you :) [01:07:58] if you need help with Cutenews specifially, I can help, I love the software. [01:08:27] oh? [01:08:30] you use it? [01:08:56] what for [01:09:00] have used it, but with some restrictions I had to take it down (but I plan to iframe it and put it back up) [01:09:21] I used it mainly for putting news on the homepage of a site [01:09:29] oh ok [01:09:47] Hrm. How do you disable built in namespaces (1.11?). [01:09:48] but it died :( [01:09:48] it has some really nice features [01:10:17] efudd: such as? (and how disabled do you want them?) [01:10:19] your site? [01:11:03] They are gone from most everything visibility wise alrady due to skin customizations.. but say, in Special:Allpages, I still see all of the default ones in the NAmespace search pulldown. [01:11:19] ok, but which ones do you want gone? [01:11:19] I want to get rid of a few of the talk ones, for example. [01:17:54] efudd: i think you can accomplish that by removing things from the array in /includes/Namespace.php , but I don't know how well that'll work [01:18:19] might need to modify Defines.php as well [01:18:56] okee. Iguess I need to learn the mediawiki structure a bit more. I'll check out those pointers at least. [01:18:59] thanks. [01:21:32] most people hide the talk links as disabling the stock namespaces is next to impossible [01:21:57] well, disabling them stably is next to impossible... :) [01:22:27] Yeah... as is safely renamed Categories to Tags :) [01:22:40] I've got it close at this point.. hrm. [01:25:32] you can lock the namespaces from being edited [01:25:38] that's fairly easy enough [01:29:56] Hrmph. I'm unsure if namespaces are going to be the right container for what I'm trying. sigh. [02:06:22] hello amidaniel [02:06:57] hello MZMcBride [02:51:16] How does one set up a user so that they're notified via email of every change made to the wiki? (Without manually watching every page.) [02:52:30] try http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Email_extensions [02:58:39] 03(NEW) Give ability to make images linking to any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12114 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (rene.kijewski) [03:08:36] 03(NEW) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12115 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (Emufarmers) [03:08:37] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9426 (10N/A) [03:08:54] *TimLaqua_away sheds a tear [03:16:03] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12115 (10N/A) [03:16:03] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9426 (10N/A) [03:18:15] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for discussion sub-sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12115 (10N/A) [03:20:35] 03(mod) Some way to specify heading level for new sections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9426 (10t.laqua) [03:22:53] dropdowns... pure insanity. [03:22:59] ;-) [04:34:40] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 (10vasilvv) [04:37:29] 03(NEW) Create patroller group on Russian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12116 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [04:39:11] 03(mod) Create patroller group on Russian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12116 (10vasilvv) [04:39:13] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 (10vasilvv) [04:43:24] there's a popular script for "pure CSS" rounded corners [04:45:05] indeed [04:45:08] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Andrew) [04:45:14] *Werdna has seen it. [04:45:16] it works by using javascript to add a whole lot of 1px divs [04:45:32] that doesn't sound very good [04:45:33] pretty yucky, really. [04:46:22] don't they have them in CSS3? [04:46:24] *Werdna looks [04:46:40] By now, one would hope so [04:46:50] it's in CSS3 i think [04:46:54] (which no-one supports) [04:47:01] and there's a proprietary mozilla extension for it [04:47:32] knew about mozilla support, wasn't sure about CSS3 [04:48:18] TimStarling: so, can I switch the permission required for rollback to edit // grant the rollback permission to all users? [04:48:46] you can, but i'll call you 'the drama-maker' for the rest of your life [04:48:52] :) [04:48:53] Werdna: Hmm .. I think it best to leave them separate [04:49:01] Might assign rollback to user by default though [04:49:10] them = the rights [04:50:22] Werdna, you've got a long life ahead of you, no need to make yourself a martyr just yet [04:50:58] I suggest you promote the idea on the english wikipedia first [04:51:53] hmm.. it's like choosing between sarah jessica parker and kirsten dunst in a hot-body-weird-face competition.. it just can't be done. [04:51:57] try to get as many people as possible on board [04:52:07] TimStarling: what do you think about 11645? [04:52:10] you can use the big stick "I'm going to do it anyway" [04:52:16] *amidaniel hops on board [04:52:29] heh.. I'll give it a crack, see what happens [04:52:37] that means you get the apathetic vote, the people who couldn't be bothered fighting it [04:52:53] I'll play the "I was talking about it with Tim, and he thinks it's a good idea, so I'm just checking" [04:52:56] card [04:53:06] sure, you can use that one too [04:53:18] hehe .. argumentum ad starling :) [04:54:40] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 (10vasilvv) [04:56:25] hmm, what was the other other technical issue I solved with it? [04:56:26] to CIA! [04:56:53] oh yeah, the mark as bot thing [04:57:46] what about it? [04:59:58] I have a local wiki is there a way that I can enable transcluding of Wikimedia images (Images on commons and wikipedia), and en.wiki templates? [05:00:30] $wgEnableScaryTransclusion is the including enwiki templates [05:00:46] Betacommand: Not without enabling raw html [05:00:54] for the images part^ [05:01:43] !externalimages [05:01:43] To allow images from elsewhere to be included in your wiki, see . To limit this to some specific sources, see . [05:04:56] Ah, well, I'll be damned :) [05:05:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Werdna/VPT <-- how's that? [05:05:42] it should probably go on VPR or at least be cross-posted [05:06:01] meh, VPT [05:06:05] minimal xposting [05:06:14] Try to keep the discussion in one place at the least [05:06:16] I just want a bunch of people to say "yeah sounds good" and then I'll do it later. [05:07:04] it's a proposal to change the software; it needs a mention on the proposals page or people are going to be after your head [05:07:52] meh. [05:07:57] Just link to the convo on vpr [05:07:59] It's the first time I've proposed any change to software [05:08:11] And AN and wherever else it needs to go [05:08:22] Ooooh .. let's put it in the Sitenotice! :D [05:08:22] worst thing that's ever happened was about 3 people went after my head for autosummaries. [05:08:38] anyway, how's the wording? [05:08:46] you could update the watchlist notice for the nth time [05:09:22] Werdna: Worksforme :) [05:09:28] link Tim's name [05:09:40] oh god no [05:09:45] linking is done far too much [05:10:05] huh? [05:10:26] there, now people know who he is [05:10:28] linking would disambiguate who you mean [05:10:28] (refresh) [05:10:55] Werdna: is that a proposal to introduce a feature into mediawiki, or a proposal for changing how en.wiki behaves? [05:11:11] chmod007: both [05:11:21] a proposal for a change to the mediawiki defaults, which will change how mediawiki behaves [05:11:48] Werdna: rollbacks for every user would be detrimental on en-wiki. anyone can already revert by manually going back to a previous revision. the problem is that rollback takes too little consideration. it’s very easy to hit a link, while it takes some thought to manually revert. [05:11:51] make sure you talk to brion before it's committed [05:11:52] you may want to mention that nearly the same function is already possible with javascript; or not [05:12:11] that also takes some thought on part of the user applying the javascript [05:12:11] and make sure it does actually trip the edit rate limiter [05:13:00] TimStarling: I already tested that. [05:13:12] it hits both the edit rate limiter, and a separate rollback rate limiter. [05:16:43] wait, I tested that if pingLimiter returns true, it says "go away", because I didn't have memcached [05:16:51] I do have it now, but it's very very very slow to use [05:17:08] it slows my page loads on another wiki significantly. [05:19:20] enabling memcached? [05:19:33] yes. [05:19:43] commenting out the memcached lines in my LocalSettings.php fixed it. [05:19:56] maybe the message cache save failed [05:20:10] $wgDebugLogFile and see what happens? [05:20:25] you could do [05:26:35] TimStarling: page is still "loading", but this has come up in the log already: Request ended normally [05:27:21] although, this is in the output: MessageCache::load(): unable to load cache, disabled [05:28:58] it's probably hanging on the CSS requests as well, that's why it's still loading [05:29:16] you might want to check that $wgMemc does actually work, with eval.php [05:30:56] ah, found it [05:31:03] starting memcached without -l localhost fixed it [05:31:19] erm, I had -l 127.0.0.1 [05:31:37] thanks [05:32:09] *Werdna tests. [05:38:30] rate limiter seems to trigger correctly. [05:39:09] TimStarling: brion's on florida time, isn't he? [05:41:31] Werdna: I think he said he was flying back to fl today [05:42:42] he was at the airport about 24 hours ago [05:55:28] ah [05:55:33] I'll bug him when he signs on [07:14:52] 03(mod) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059 (10Michael.W.Dietrich) [07:47:06] hi all mediawiki gurus. I wonder if anyone has any experience in using MediaWiki with an external authentication method? That is, I want to use user and password information from an external database, not the mySQL the MediaWiki uses by default. [07:50:44] 03(NEW) Lock database of cho.wikipedia.org for edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12117 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (siebrand) [07:51:27] Ravn: no experience, but I know that what you need is an Authentication plugin [07:51:32] where are you thinking of getting it from? [07:53:38] Werdna: well, I have no idea of where to get one, that was what I was hoping to get a tip on [07:54:00] no, but what do you want to authenticate against? [07:56:52] ah, from another MySQL database that is used by another web system we have that has another address and another format [07:58:36] well, if it's a proprietary system, you'll have to write your own authplugin. There's an example on the subversion repository, search for AuthPlugin.php [08:00:17] Werdna: ok, nice thanx. Regarding copyright: The system is used internally on out university, and will be very specialized, to probably no idea to try to spread such a plugin. [08:00:37] I don't think that's required under the GPL. [08:01:04] You just can't sell it for profit, or give it away without source code (in this case, it IS source code, since it's PHP), or remove the attribution. [08:24:25] why does CSS suck so much? [08:28:29] TimStarling: why do you think that? [08:32:23] well, in this case, because I finally thought I had some rounded corners positioned in a reasonably robust way, so I tested them out with the full page and stylesheet, and they moved around to new random locations [08:32:30] different in IE and FF [08:33:18] but I've never had any particularly pleasant experiences with it [08:37:03] That is not CSS's fault. [08:37:06] That is IE's fault. [08:37:07] Anyway. [08:37:22] I was wondering if it is possible to "escape" line feeds. [08:37:52] Cause every time I use the {{#if:}} on a line, where there is going to be no content, MediaWiki thinks it is just another paragraph. [08:37:59] it was wrong in both, it's no IE's fault [08:37:59] And thus I have a huge gap with no content. [08:38:24] Actually, it is. But it *may* also be FF's fault. [08:38:28] it's the fault of the CSS spec for not properly specifying the behaviour in whatever case it is that I'm invoking [08:38:59] I do not think there is any definition for rounded corners, except in CSS3. [08:39:09] But that has yet to be implemented. [08:40:13] that doesn't mean they're unimplementable. He's talking about jpeg positioning [08:41:46] I hate descendant selectors [08:44:29] get rid of descendant selectors, get rid of element name selectors, just put a class on every damn element [08:44:46] that might make the thing a bit more maintainable [08:53:10] <_wooz> lo [08:53:19] join #cisco [08:53:35] sorry [09:09:48] 03(NEW) Change the sitename and project namespace of the Breton Wikiquote - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12118 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (robin_1273) [09:11:10] .panel-2col div div { [09:11:10] margin: .5em; [09:11:10] } [09:11:30] see what I mean? that's from a drupal stylesheet [09:12:55] *Hojjat waves to TimStarling [09:13:46] hi [09:13:52] how are you meant to debug this stuff? [09:14:04] hi. [09:14:08] which stuff? [09:16:05] no I'm not addressing you [09:16:14] oops. sorry! [09:17:45] I'm just ranting, you can answer if you want [09:19:05] LOL [09:21:11] "!important" makes no sense, all my rules are important [09:21:16] otherwise I wouldn't bother writing them [09:24:55] TimStarling, "!important" is used to show which lines are written by you, and to distinguish them from mine! [09:27:12] re [09:28:52] Hi, I'm having some trouble figuring out how to link to list all articles in a given Namespace on our office wiki. This must be extremely simple to do - can anyone help? [09:29:51] Special:Allpages [09:30:34] I found that, but I want to restrict it to only show articles in the custom namespace News: [09:30:59] I basically want to have a link in the sidebar to a page showing the title of all News: articles on a single page [09:31:03] there's a drop-down list to pick the namespace [09:31:28] that sends me to /index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=100 when I pick News from the menu [09:31:50] is there a clean URL for doing this with, or a way of embedding this in a page? I can't get it to link in the sidebar, or control the formatting as far as I can see [09:32:29] I think you can use the same link on the Sidebar [09:32:59] [http://www.domain.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=100 All pages in News namespace] [09:34:11] well, it started out a simple question [09:35:07] Hojjat: that appears to have worked [09:35:13] :) [09:35:17] but! [09:35:22] :( [09:35:22] the link isn't appearing in the sidebar [09:35:33] It's there when I go to MediaWiki:Sidebar [09:35:54] Because Sidebar needs to be formatted in a special way (whch I need to think and remember) [09:35:58] *Hojjat pokes TimStarling [09:36:38] I believe you can also embed it in a page with {{Special:Allpages/News:!}} [09:37:59] winner! [09:37:59] ** Special:Allpages/News:!|News [09:38:10] has created a new link pointing to that page [09:38:23] that has been driving me mad for about a week - many thanks :D [09:38:28] well, that's from the sidebar [09:38:33] :) [09:38:36] good catch! [09:38:42] but if you want it from the page text, you would use double-braces [09:39:25] can you limit the number of results it pulls back? also, can you order them by most recently added? [09:44:26] mr_shifty: maybe you want Special:Newpages [09:44:37] search the web for documentation on it [10:08:48] does somebody know what kind of extension the english wikipedia uses to edit extra buttons to the toolbar!? [10:10:06] i've been lookin for clues but i just found a client based solution [10:10:08] :-( [10:50:17] Hello [10:58:08] hi, question I hope you can help me with: I set the $wgWhitelistRead up to include "Special:Confirmemail" in the list, but access to the confirm email page still does not work. What is wrong? [11:00:21] typo? [11:02:14] I checked over and over can't see a typo [11:05:09] what error message does it give when you try to visit the page? [11:06:03] morning [11:06:15] Login Required... [11:08:40] can you paste somewhere (other than the channel) the exact contents of $wgWhitelistRead? [11:11:31] http://igad.nhtv.nl/foo.txt [11:12:43] is this wiki on the internet, can I see it? [11:13:27] yes [11:13:41] http://igad.nhtv.nl/wiki [11:14:29] works for me [11:14:36] "You need to log in to confirm your email address." [11:15:26] if it's not accessible, it looks like this: http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail [11:15:33] "You must log in to view other pages." [11:16:35] odd that's what I get [11:16:41] TimStarling yo [11:16:41] might be a caching problem [11:16:47] brb [11:17:09] TimStarling please take a look at http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Darkoneko/R [11:17:22] I need some statistics for a presentation I'll give this 1 december [11:17:50] http://igad.nhtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Special:Confirmemail/f5b21f4a652ec4d8b1b4d05857d95724 [11:17:52] I need to get the presentation aproved this wendsday [11:17:58] can you try this link? [11:18:39] 03(mod) Lock database of cho.wikipedia.org for edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12117 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:20:20] 03(mod) Switch Armenian Wikisource logo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12113 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:20:27] 03(mod) Change of Armenian NS_POJECT namespaces, Wikisource name - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12112 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:21:12] dino13: it says "You must log in to view other pages" [11:21:40] no Via header, cache-control header intact [11:23:30] TimStarling is it even posible to generate such statistics? [11:24:14] 03(mod) Bulgarian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12099 (10raimond.spekking) [11:25:04] does Mediawiki need to be installed in a /tree/ or can it be put in the top level of the server [11:25:12] so it shows up at domain.com instead of domain.com/tree [11:26:37] White_Cat: generating statistics like that is no simple thing [11:27:21] TimStarling I know that [11:27:30] but this is a university conferance [11:27:38] I'll give it twice on 1 dec [11:27:56] I can process raw data [11:28:02] 03raymond * r27844 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTree.i18n.bg.php: [11:28:02] * (bug 12099) Add Bulgarian translation [11:28:02] Patch by DCLXVI [11:28:37] 03(FIXED) Bulgarian translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12099 +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:29:32] 03(mod) Update for Min Dong localisation and its extension messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12102 (10raimond.spekking) [11:30:19] TimStarling: do you have any idea why the actual confirmation link does not work? [11:31:07] because [[Special:Confirmemail/f5b21f4a652ec4d8b1b4d05857d95724]] is a different title to [[Special:Confirmemail]], so it doesn't match the whitelist [11:31:49] hmmm ok [11:32:04] Hi guys, is there any reason that Mediawiki should not be installed in the main directory of the server? [11:32:23] a bit of a problem then... can wildcards be used? Otherwise the confirm email link will never work [11:32:25] TimStarling what kind of info are stored in our servers? [11:32:33] for these statistics I mean [11:33:26] number of user creations and admin promotions can be gotten fairly easily from the logs [11:33:56] edit rate can be calculated from public data by sampling the rev_id [11:34:24] it's roughly monotonic in time, but there are lots of exceptions you have to filter out [11:34:39] TimStarling I am no techie on the matter [11:34:47] and I can't learn it all in 2 days [11:34:48] as for page view rates, there's always alexa [11:35:10] why are you trying? is this a project you've chosen yourself? [11:35:19] I was asked to give the conferance [11:35:29] late last thurday [11:35:32] *thursday [11:36:06] TimStarling I like wikipedia and I want to introduce it to people with numbers [11:36:50] you do know about alexa, don't you? [11:37:07] 03(mod) Enable patrolling and create patroller group on huwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12085 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:37:12] TimStarling yes I do know about it [11:37:20] there's also some edit rate data that's been published, based on backup dumps [11:37:25] not sure how many wikis it covers [11:37:39] TimStarling so you arent going to help me in any way? :( [11:38:31] didn't he just help you? [11:38:42] he suggested a bunch of places where you could find useful statistics. [11:39:28] Werdna I am in no position to learn mediawiki [11:39:37] to the point I can generate these statistics [11:39:53] well, what statistics do you want? [11:40:34] we have a 1/1000 sampled log which has lots of gaps in it, only goes back to March, is 146GB, and I can't give it to you for privacy reasons [11:40:35] Werdna see: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Darkoneko/R [11:40:57] the raw data for edit rates should be available for download already [11:41:06] TimStarling all I need is the processed data [11:41:11] TimStarling where? [11:41:13] popularity over time is on alexa [11:41:14] there is no processed data [11:41:31] Werdna no it isnt [11:41:35] alexia does www.wikipedia.org [11:41:38] the stub XML dumps [11:41:42] I need en.wikipedia.org [11:41:47] and tr.wikipedia.org as well [11:41:49] *Werdna rolls eyes [11:41:57] alexia doesnt give me that [11:42:04] or at least I am too moronic to find it [11:43:00] Werdna I am introducing the project to non-english speakers. They will want to know how many people visit the language edition of their language [11:43:14] http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20071018/enwiki-20071018-stub-meta-history.xml.gz [11:43:26] well, there are proobably statistics lying around [11:43:28] 5.6GB [11:43:46] TimStarling by the time I get that it'd be too late [11:43:52] I dont have that kind of bandwidth [11:44:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics [11:44:11] Werdna that is useless [11:44:12] Anyone, is there any reason I would not want to put Mediawiki in the root directory? [11:44:27] t0lk: not really [11:44:27] Wikipedia:Statistics doesnt give the detail I need with this [11:44:31] but read the FAQ [11:44:39] ok, thank you TimStarling [11:45:15] http://wikisupport.martinkozak.net/~martinkozak/statistics/?family=wikipedias&project=en&subject=edits&scanback=90 <-- edits/time for enwiki [11:45:29] http://wikisupport.martinkozak.net/~martinkozak/statistics/?family=wikipedias&project=tr&subject=edits&scanback=90 <-- edits/time for trwiki [11:48:35] Werdna what I most need is the top 100 articles [11:48:44] and page views [11:50:43] leon's stuff does top 100 articles. [11:50:48] for all wikis. [11:51:02] it didnt give that selection [11:51:17] down the bottom [11:51:30] http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/%7Eleon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?wiki=trwiki&ns=articles&limit=100&month=11%2F2007&mode=view [11:51:36] an error [11:51:45] not enabled on trwiki [11:51:49] but it is enabled on other wikis [11:52:08] yes [11:52:10] which is nice [11:52:13] I need tr [11:52:34] doesn't appear to be any data on that. [11:52:54] if you need it by saturday, you could probably ask Leon very nicely to set it up [11:53:18] Werdna I want to [11:53:22] I cant quite reach him [11:54:28] well, leave a massage on his talk page [11:55:29] lolwut [11:55:46] fucking ED [11:55:56] goddamn, i hate ED now [11:56:34] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [11:57:14] 03raymond * r27845 10/trunk/ (20 files in 19 dirs): * (Bug 12102) Add Min Dong localisation and its extension messages [11:57:17] cheers. [11:57:27] 03(FIXED) Update for Min Dong localisation and its extension messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12102 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:57:57] ooh localisation [11:58:08] Where can I view the template used for new created sites, i.e. "This subdomain is reserved for the creation of ..." (like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_portals for www.wikiproject.org) [11:58:38] it's probably on svn [11:58:48] why isn't special:popularpages working on mediawiki.org? [11:59:01] Werdna: no, I don't think so [12:03:46] TimLaqua_away: why do you think? [12:04:00] TimLaqua_away: counters are disabled. [12:04:14] disabled for some sort of efficency concern? [12:05:12] TimLaqua_away: Special:Popularpages relies on page counters, which is both inefficient from a resource perspective, and does not work with the caching system used for MediaWIki [12:05:17] erm, Wikimedia, rather [12:05:33] TimStarling, that troll was the infamous HAGGER??? vandal :( [12:06:00] Warpath: http://www.uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nobody_cares [12:06:03] not infamous around here [12:06:24] I'd assume we would fix the page rather than disabling it. ;-) [12:06:43] TimLaqua_away: if there was much call for the page [12:06:47] Werdna, he destroyts more small wikis than most vandals on English wikipedia combined ;) [12:06:48] TimLaqua_away: well, you assumed wrong [12:06:54] indeed [12:07:12] it's been disabled on all wikimedia projects since 2003 [12:07:17] Warpath: I refer to my previous statemtn. [12:08:10] XD [12:08:27] I think there's as much call for popularpages as there is to any other queryresult pages [12:09:15] no shit [12:09:21] and there are a few plans to reimplement it [12:09:30] maybe you should talk to those people [12:09:35] TimLaqua_away: yeah, but making it actually work in a way that doesn't need about five new servers is possible with other querypages, but quite difficult with popularpages [12:09:40] TimLaqua_away: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?lang=en&wiki=enwiki&ns=alle&limit=100&month=11%2F2007&mode=view [12:09:43] however, if you're after something like that, look at wikicharts. [12:10:14] i'm not after that data at all [12:12:20] TimStarling can you give me the total number of visitors to wikipedia? [12:12:27] no [12:12:31] alexia gives a percentage (of what I dont know) [12:13:03] we don't have any unique vistor statistics [12:13:41] http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/%7Eleon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?lang=en&wiki=enwiki&ns=articles&limit=101&month=11%2F2007&mode=view [12:13:45] how come that exist? [12:13:58] *White_Cat is puzzled [12:15:37] White_Cat: what's puzzling about it? [12:16:13] that you do not have the info LeonWP has [12:16:18] or alexia has [12:16:52] sure I do, that's where I get it from [12:16:56] Alexa and Leon [12:20:36] 03(mod) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 (10a9502784) [12:20:36] and they have more data than a person with database access? [12:20:36] they have statistics, statistics is different from data [12:20:36] *White_Cat thought TimStarling had godlike access [12:20:36] Oh do you mean you have the raw data but not processed? [12:20:36] well, I have the database, if that's what you mean... [12:20:36] and the squid log stream [12:20:36] okay [12:20:36] and a 1/1000 sampled log, like I told you a while ago [12:20:36] okay [12:20:36] you seem busy [12:20:36] who besides you might be able to help me [12:20:36] I contacted LeonWP but he seems MIA [12:26:19] Hey, the {{verify source}} tag on Wikipedia is broken. If it's followed by a line break and a link, it ignores the line break. [12:26:22] 03(mod) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 (10a9502784) [12:26:22] Anybody know how to fix it? [12:31:56] HAGGER? [12:32:14] GODDAMNED WIKIPEDOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [12:32:17] WIKI [12:32:20] PEDOS [12:32:23] hai! [12:32:30] HAGGER??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [12:32:34] !!! [12:32:46] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:33:04] hello [12:33:05] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:33:06] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:33:21] erm [12:33:41] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:33:44] wondering about the search-results in one of my wikis. Shoulnt the searchphrase lenght just be limited by msql ? [12:33:56] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:34:06] TimStarling, he's back [12:34:08] and if i define 2 in mysql, the search button in my wiki should do a real full-text-search, right ? [12:34:21] There is this Grawp who spams the mediawiki channel [12:34:29] HAGGER? [12:34:37] *Grawp slaps TimStarling around a bit with a large trout [12:34:40] *Grawp slaps PriceChild around a bit with a large trout [12:34:53] OH SHI- [12:34:57] just ignore him [12:35:03] !ops [12:35:04] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:04] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:04] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:05] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:06] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:06] not worth it :) [12:35:12] all he can do is flood a bit [12:35:18] !ops [12:35:25] !admin [12:35:30] !spam [12:35:30] For more information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see . [12:35:33] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:33] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:34] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:35:49] OH SHI- [12:35:52] *Grawp slaps JohnReaves around a bit with a large trout [12:35:54] *Grawp slaps Dave2 around a bit with a large trout [12:39:25] it's actually a bit amusing [12:39:26] it is just sad to me [12:39:26] that's why it's amusing ;) [12:39:26] *Grawp slaps Grawp around a bit with a large trout [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] man. could someone kick this child off the channel? [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] *Grawp slaps PunkRock around a bit with a large trout [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:39:26] hehe. he did it himeself. [12:39:26] PunkRock: now we should be him [12:39:26] should we? [12:39:26] i got the message. as No*** posted it. [12:39:26] why should i spam this channel with it? [12:39:26] it's not the ppls. penalty in here, is it? [12:39:26] /penalty/fault/ [12:40:21] Holy shit [12:40:22] btw, NETSPLIT made much more flood than that flooder made [12:40:31] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:40:32] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:40:32] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:40:33] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:40:34] There's this fucking faggot who's ruining Encyclopedia Dramatica. Please go here to fuck up his page: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User:WhiteMystery&action=edit [12:40:46] VasilievVV: use irssi :) [12:41:38] Grawp: btw, type /quote names [12:41:55] Grawp: muhaha, I muted you! [12:41:56] you suck! [12:41:57] ;-D [12:42:05] :) [12:42:12] Lol. He's really an idiot [12:42:36] I'll ask again [12:42:46] The {{verify source}} tag on Wikipedia is broken. If it's followed by a line break and a link, it ignores the line break. Anybody know how to fix it? [12:43:50] furrykef: I think template should be fixed, not mediawiki [12:44:33] take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Verify_source [12:47:41] stemd - I came here mostly 'cause #wikipedia was being no help and whatever the problem is, it probably involves MediaWiki markup or a bug in MediaWiki or, well, MediaWiki's involved in it one way or another. ;) [12:47:54] I already saw the template but I don't know what the problem could be. [12:48:18] There isn't a line of code that says "eat newline if followed by link" or anything ;) [12:48:26] :-) [12:48:38] or, lets ask more basic. do i need to add a fulltext-search engine to my wiki to have a real full-text search ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fulltext_search_engines [12:48:46] I looks like css something.... [12:49:10] furrykef: I'll take a look after lunch [12:49:15] i expected that my redefintion of mysql word-lenght is enough, but doenst look like that. am i right ? [13:01:14] isset($variables[$region]) ? $variables[$region] .= theme('blocks', $region) : $variables[$region] = theme('blocks', $region); [13:01:32] *TimStarling sceptical... [13:02:44] ajsklasf [13:02:57] erm. [13:02:59] sorry. [13:07:22] 03(NEW) Add localisation settings for Wikispecies - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12119 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (robin_1273) [13:36:01] 03(mod) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #61, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 +comment (10shinjiman) [13:37:12] 03(mod) ZH lonelypagestext like deadendpagestext; also variants bug - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11947 (10shinjiman) [13:41:16] salut [13:41:50] does anyone know how i can export a mediawiki to a static site i can burn on a cd or something? [13:42:08] hi there: has this been pasted here already? http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;7626501;fp;4;fpid;1968336438 [14:08:44] i know there is a export2html but this doesnt export the images [14:08:59] does someone know about this problem? [14:10:03] maintenance/dumpHTML.php [14:10:27] I'm busy though, so read up before you ask me more questions about it [14:15:08] TimStarling: thats what i tried to use but it doesnt export the image directory [14:19:12] it can do, it depends on the options [14:19:25] it can make a symlink farm, a copy, or just reference the existing image directory [14:19:43] I believe a simple reference is the default [14:20:06] you can tar up the image directory itself for distribution if you like [14:22:06] ok i will check it out. and hope i understand what you mean [14:22:45] --image-snapshot copy all images used to the destination directory [14:23:30] TimStarling: this didnt worked for me [14:24:28] TimStarling: but i will try it again [14:24:34] TimStarling: thank you for your time and help [14:26:03] nope doesnt work here [14:31:52] in what way does it not work? [14:32:34] if i replace tags with the extractTagsAndParams method, how do it get the replaced text back again? [14:32:54] 03(FIXED) Update for Cantonese language (yue) #61, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese localisation (zho series) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:33:29] TimStarling: it doesnt copy the images to the static directory [14:33:32] *Raymond_ kicks CIA-38 [14:33:33] ow [14:36:52] do it mysel with the marker? [14:37:06] /mysel/myself/ [14:38:16] PunkRock: i don't know the parser details too well, but there'S something like a "StripContext" or "StripState" or some such, which is generally used for this type of take-out-put-back stuff [14:39:00] ok. thats what unstrip needs. but how do i access this stripState? [14:39:19] it's a member of the parser [14:39:25] or rather, there's a stack of them, iirc [14:39:38] argh [14:39:45] ic! Thanks Duesentrieb_! [14:40:48] PunkRock: TimStarling is working on a rewrite :) [14:41:56] hm. stripState is NULL> [14:41:57] . [14:42:21] 03(NEW) Unescaped quote in YAML output - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12120 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (patrick.sinclair) [14:42:28] $parser->mStripState [14:42:47] just one [14:43:05] marvxxx: what version of MW are you using? [14:43:40] TimStarling: global $wgParser->mStripState is NULL [14:43:59] well, it's part of the state [14:44:06] are you sure the parser is parsing when you're looking? [14:44:19] the state is only valid during a parse [14:44:31] it replaces all occurences with extractTagsAndParams [14:44:39] ah. [14:44:43] *Duesentrieb_ just subscribed to Wikitext-l [14:44:48] TimStarling: 1.11.0 [14:45:33] maybe thats the reasone? since the extractTagsAndParams method is static the StripState is not recognized? [14:45:45] is it? [14:46:49] PunkRock: try to figure out how it works, and how it's usually used. [14:47:05] well. ok. [14:47:22] i think i will try and replace it back myself. [14:47:35] PunkRock: the parser has reduced strong men to subbing veggies. so, run while you can... [14:47:49] hehe [14:48:04] marvxxx: hang around for a bit [14:48:54] the parser class is quite complex. and has it's, well, let's call it magic? [14:50:00] TimStarling: okidoki :) [14:50:58] 03(NEW) Create Author, Portal, Page and Index namespaces in hywikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12121 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (teak.wiki) [14:54:02] marvxxx: looks like I broke it myself [14:55:12] hi [14:55:22] it's not particularly simple to fix either [14:55:42] TimStarling: oh ok...too bad [14:55:55] anyone here who knows who creates the dumps on downloads.wikimedia.org? [14:56:00] we can do a quick hack just for your case though [14:57:38] TimStarling: this would be nice and would help me alot [14:58:43] open maintenance/dumpHTML.inc in a text editor [14:59:06] search for this: [14:59:07] $wgUploadPath = "$wgScriptPath/{$this->imageRel}"; [14:59:33] delete that line, and insert these two lines in its place: [14:59:33] $repo = RepoGroup::singleton()->getLocalRepo(); [14:59:33] $repo->url = $wgUploadPath = "$wgScriptPath/{$this->imageRel}"; [15:01:26] TimStarling: that was it? [15:02:29] that should fix it, if you have only one file repository [15:02:34] which you almost certainly do [15:03:17] TimStarling: ok i will try it [15:04:14] TimStarling: it still doesnt work [15:11:22] hello [15:11:29] marvxxx: is it generating HTML? [15:11:38] i have a question regarding search / full text search in mediawiki. [15:11:55] Seems like mediawiki doenst offers a real full-text search, right ? [15:11:55] TimStarling: yes it does..but still the same problem with the images [15:12:01] check if the HTML has tags in it [15:12:10] paste the URL for one of the images here [15:12:18] i have modified the mysql value for min-text_lenght to 2, and rebuilded the searchindex table [15:12:28] that doenst solved my problem completly. [15:12:31] it should look like this: "../../../../upload/thumb/6/6a/Cvsbug.png/800px-Cvsbug.png" [15:12:35] with lots of dots [15:12:48] am i forced to install a real full_text_search_engine plugin or similar to get it working ? [15:13:50] Hi [15:14:47] odb|fidel_: the index is a "real" as mysql's full text index is. [15:15:39] odb|fidel_: the alternative is installing the lucene plugin - but that means no more automatic updates, for one thing [15:15:41] TimStarling: [15:16:16] Duesentrieb_: mh ok [15:16:24] honestly i am happy how it is [15:16:39] marvxxx: is that on the main page? [15:16:43] but one of my collegues think he needs real full-text search...whyever [15:16:51] Duesentrieb_: ok thank you for the input [15:17:22] TimStarling: yes. i looked in the upload directory and saw that in front of each imagefile there is a at sign [15:20:07] what's your command line to dumpHTML.php? [15:20:17] Does anyone know how to get the mediaWiki Parser Working without "displaying" the wiki? I'm currently working on a Project and we got a "closed" mediaWiki (So only registerd Users are able to view/edit and an Admin has to approve new registrations) and we would like to "export" a Page which makes it neccessary to parse the mediaWiki Code just in case someone is wondering why I'd like to use the Parser. ;) [15:20:58] TimStarling: php5 dumpHTML.php --image-snapshot [15:24:03] marvx: so it creates a static directory under the wiki directory, right? [15:24:12] TimStarling: yes it does [15:24:24] and in there, there's probably an index.html, raw, and maybe some other stuff [15:25:01] is there an upload directory? [15:25:46] TimStarling: yes it is [15:26:09] there's an upload directory? [15:26:23] with images in it? [15:26:47] yes there are the files in it [15:26:55] well, there is your image snapshot [15:27:27] 03(NEW) Images in dumpHTML broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12122 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (tstarling) [15:27:36] TimStarling: but it doesnt get shown [15:27:54] when you look at index.html in a browser, you mean? [15:28:10] can I look at it? is it on the web? [15:29:05] TimStarling: nope it isnt on the web [15:29:11] its in our company intranet [15:30:27] ok, you'll have to help me a bit then... [15:30:32] what's the URL to index.html? [15:30:38] TimStarling: Bild:Warnung.png [15:30:42] this doesnt look right [15:30:44] the one that you put in your browser [15:31:22] http://intranet.company.site/wiki/static/index.html [15:32:13] hi. have 2 major questions: 1) how can i arrange it so that the same skin appears on the wiki for all users? and 2) how do i change the configuration settings to allow image uploads? i am administering this wiki, under a deadline, and starting to panic! [15:32:53] mmm, so we've got one set of dots too many, don't we? [15:33:04] i think so ;-) [15:33:34] the image URL would be http://intranet.company.site/wiki/static/upload/c/ca/Warnung.png [15:33:44] oh man. [15:34:33] i tried to use the ReplacementArray to retranslate stuff encapsulated in tags. [15:34:43] auroraz7: you can define a default skin in LocalSettings [15:34:54] but it does not add the surrounding nowiki tags. [15:35:15] auroraz7: i have just deleted all other skins and defined a default skin. [15:35:34] there is a skip themes switch too afaik for/in LocalSettings.php [15:35:58] TimStarling: exactly [15:36:07] auroraz7: regarding uploading: again check the settings in LocalSettings.php [15:36:53] TimStarling: now i saw..it just creates symlinks [15:37:17] ok. well here's the thing. the wiki is housed on my client's server, so i (stupidly, i'm afraid) went there using my ftp client and putzed around. big mistake i fear. [15:37:20] that's what --force-copy is for [15:38:10] what i really wanted to do is to make "cologne blue" the default skin. however, somehow i erased it instead :-( [15:38:25] I think you have to use --interlang to fix the image URLs [15:38:45] auroraz7: how did you manage to delete a theme while trying to define it as default ? [15:39:21] auroraz7: i think the skin-question is easy and almost answered above [15:39:22] i noticed that the default for image uploads is "false" (this is the other topic) but I seem to be unable to edit that from my laptop. [15:39:33] that's another bug I guess [15:39:35] auroraz7: why ? [15:39:57] thats not a bug, you just need to have the right to edit the file [15:40:01] goodmorning everybody [15:40:09] hi brion [15:40:12] auroraz7: or am i misunderstanding your problem [15:40:13] actually, on the ftp site, i put cologne blue everywhere i could think of w/in the skins folder, just in case. no dice [15:40:14] TimStarling: nope doesnt work [15:40:23] but hey thank you for your help [15:40:33] auroraz7: have you ever check LocalSettings.php ? [15:40:45] now i can't get it remotely. it has disappeared from my preferences on my laptop [15:41:01] i'll try it. hang on while i go do that [15:41:09] auroraz7 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads I guess that should also cover Image uploading or isn't it working that way for you? [15:41:36] Lysistrata: he hasnt even configured the basic things in Localsettings.php if i got him right [15:42:18] ah OK well anyway it's a good starting point for enabling Uploads. ;D [15:42:24] yeah :D [15:42:37] marvxxx: with --interlang? works for me [15:43:05] Still no one here who knows how to use the mediaWikiParser "standalone" or knows an alternative Parser or knows a handy Export Function? [15:43:18] Image:Cvsbug.png [15:43:22] three sets of dots [15:43:24] TimStarling: now too...i deleted the static directory again [15:43:25] ok, this is really helpful. i am at local settings and will spend some time there. [15:44:30] TimStarling: now its just getting monobook work ;-) [15:44:39] And is there some kind of source for the "standard" Templates? Like a template to mark an article for deletion or something? [15:44:46] auroraz7: both questions should be possible to fix inside that file [15:45:06] marvxxx: you getting the classic skin? I've got that too [15:45:15] it kind of sucks... [15:45:54] adam:/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/maintenance # php5 dumpHTML.php --image-snapshot --interlang --force-copy -k monobook [15:45:57] adam:/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/maintenance # php5 dumpHTML.php --image-snapshot --interlang --force-copy -k monobook [15:46:00] adam:/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/maintenance # php5 dumpHTML.php --image-snapshot --interlang --force-copy -k monobook [15:46:03] oh, no, don't do that [15:46:05] adam:/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/maintenance # php5 dumpHTML.php --image-snapshot --interlang --force-copy -k monobook [15:46:10] sorry [15:46:17] is that what -k is for? [15:46:28] it's not meant to suck quite that much... [15:46:58] when i try to use monobook it looks like it doesnt has a skin at all [15:47:07] mv skins/disabled/HTMLDump.php skins/ [15:47:30] surely that's documented somewhere... [15:47:36] probably a mailing list post :) [15:48:16] 03(NEW) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 50 edits for the Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (meno25wiki) [15:48:53] TimStarling: i will test that [15:49:19] and copy your whole skins directory into your static directory [15:49:23] suck suck suck [15:49:38] brion: looks like dumpHTML sucks [15:50:08] well, I guess it was never meant to be user-friendly [15:50:43] ok, here's the thing. i have gone all over the site (locally, on my computer). but i can't edit the image upload settings per the instructions. it's not editable. i'm wondering, do i need to do it in a particular document that resides on the server, and if so, what document? [15:50:58] TimStarling: now it works... [15:51:01] nice :) [15:51:35] aww [15:51:51] auroraz7 in order to get the upload working on the server you need to edit the LocalSettings file which is located there if it is not writeable check the permissions (CHMOD) [15:52:19] ok. i know i can edit it on the server, i do have the permissions. [15:52:23] thanks [15:52:24] maybe I should make it so dumpHTML copies your skins directory for you, and sets it up all nice so that it actually works out of the box with no options [15:52:42] it'd save a few IRC conversations wouldn't it? [15:52:45] that would be amazing!!! [15:52:53] yup, it would [15:53:02] TimStarling: totally...i copied now all tasks that i know what i actually did ;-) [15:53:18] smart! [15:53:30] but if it would get fixed it would be awsome. i think its a important feature...cause i guess that alot of companys could need this feature [15:54:01] companies, pff [15:54:02] yes, absolutely [15:54:06] what have they ever done for me? [15:54:13] who was next? [15:54:36] i agree w/you about companies, tim. i work for myself. could never drink the koolaid at a company [15:54:56] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 50 edits for the Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [15:55:25] TimStarling: nene...dont think like this. its even well for static backups...not just for companys [15:55:36] i think you all do a great job and im glad i can use mediawiki [15:56:31] but i thank you alot for your help...if i could i would invite you for a beer :) [15:57:37] no problem [15:58:45] i will go home [15:58:48] bye everyone [16:00:34] 03(mod) Provide a list of predefined reasons in the protection form - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10799 (10brion) [16:08:24] 14(INVALID) PEAR.php is not exist... - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11806 +comment (10tstarling) [16:13:56] full channel :) [16:14:17] I wanted to ask about the CSS for mediawiki - can I get to it through the web interface or do I have to have file access? [16:14:55] enygma: nither :) [16:15:04] enygma: you can override the defaults using the web interface [16:15:21] enygma: edit MediaWiki:common.css or MediaWiki:monobook.css, respectively [16:15:28] (same for javascript, btw) [16:15:32] cool [16:15:33] *enygma tries [16:15:51] read the info about clearing the browser cache [16:15:58] it's shown when you edit that page [16:16:05] foo... /me goes to slap his admin around for not updating his account [16:16:23] :P [16:29:23] /me goes to slap the admin for not updating mediawiki (running 1.0.7) [16:29:24] :( [16:30:43] 1.0.7? Uh, you probably can't get support for that anymore. [16:30:45] is that a real version? [16:31:55] Uh got it wrong # MediaWiki: 1.7.1 still its way outdated ^^ [16:32:07] I think we started at 1.1.0 [16:32:18] 03raymond * r27849 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_cn.php MessagesKk_kz.php MessagesKk_tr.php): [16:32:18] * (bug 10367) Update Kazakh translations [16:32:18] Patch by AlefZet [16:32:47] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:34:11] Hmmm a more general question is it possible to write a php script which would execute let's say DumpHTML? :X [16:34:57] you want to know about embedded web viewing? [16:35:23] dumpHTML is a very complex way to do a very specialised task [16:35:25] and it's buggy [16:35:38] you just want to use one of the extract scripts that are floating around on the web [16:35:58] good night [16:47:20] Lysistrata: Yes, it is - but what are you trying to do? [16:48:38] I'm still looking for some easy way to export a Page. I just need to export 1 Single Page each time it's updated. :/ [16:49:30] 03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [16:55:06] YES Finally found something =) [17:06:37] question about the revision table: can two edits to the same page get identical timestamps? [17:07:07] Oliphaunt: everything can be [17:08:18] Oliphaunt, sure, why not? [17:08:30] but then, if these revisions are deleted, can they be referred to unambiguously in the archive table? [17:08:41] 03mkroetzsch * r27850 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QueryProcessor.php: Support mainlabel=- to hide main column, and "empty" printrequest "?|" to use it somewhere else [17:08:44] hm, with rev_id I guess [17:08:52] Oliphaunt, later versions have the revision id in the archive table. [17:08:59] (How "later" is necessary I have no idea.) [17:09:08] the undeletion interface on wikipedia seems to use the timestamp still [17:09:15] Fun! [17:09:19] :-) [17:09:25] thanks anyway for your answers [17:09:53] in the documentation, it seems mediawiki 1.5 and up include the rev_id [17:14:02] I'll dive into the source code to see what happens... [17:15:34] ok, i'm back. successfully changed the upload defaul and uploaded a file. now--could you remind me which file i go to on the server to specify the cologne blue skin? [17:22:05] anybody home? [17:22:29] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 50 edits for the Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 (10N/A) [17:22:48] 03raymond * r27852 10/trunk/extensions/ (OggHandler/OggHandler.i18n.php Translate/MessageGroups.php): Make some messages from OggHandler optional and remove identical translations [17:23:40] auroraz7: you can chosse the skin via "preferences" in your wiki [17:27:48] 03mkroetzsch * r27853 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_Timeline.php: Better support for non-pages in first position of timeline [17:28:25] auroraz7, LocalSettings.php again. [17:28:31] !configuration [17:28:31] *All* configuration is done in LocalSettings.php. Do not edit any other file unless you want to get into serious hacking. You may want to *look* at the settings in DefaultSettings.php though, some are not in LocalSettings.php per default. See , , [17:28:42] auroraz7, see those pages. [17:33:29] it used to be that action=render would make all links fully qualified, but it looks like this is no longer the case. was this a "bug" that was fixed? or was it a feature that got accidentally removed? [17:34:33] How do I build the categories in a clean import of a language dump? I have page/text/revision... but when I go to categories in mediawiki, they're blank [17:34:52] http://rafb.net/p/hcHFlh82.html for example [17:35:56] setuid, there should be a maintenance script to rebuild the link tables. [17:36:11] refreshLinks.php might do it. [17:36:23] Ok, I'll try that [17:36:32] setuid, how is that whole project goin? [17:36:38] TimLaqua, VERY well, ;) [17:36:41] Screenshots in a sec. [17:36:56] http://65.172.152.98:8080/wikipedia/ [17:37:23] Red links are unresolved (not followed), I set it to a max depth of 2, just to test that it works [17:38:19] f/ Google Android? [17:38:23] which OS? [17:38:24] What's that? [17:38:33] Oh, PalmOS using Plucker [17:38:38] ah [17:38:40] But I have other targets, once this one works [17:39:11] Most of the work went into slimming down the template enough to strip out tables, Template: links, interwiki language links, etc. [17:39:20] Google is having a contest for app dev on their new mobile OS (Android) [17:39:27] Oh? [17:40:01] ya, I thought I might have come competition for a second. ;-) leveraging Wikipedia content is pretty hard to compete w/. [17:40:22] http://projects.plkr.org/encycloplucker/ [17:40:38] Follow the links ot the other two... mobileQuote and dictoPlucker [17:41:05] http://code.google.com/android/ [17:41:29] *nod* [17:41:53] Simetrical, There's a minor issue with refreshLinks... it assumes no table prefixes, and a static db name [17:42:01] So it fails if you modify any of the mw defaults [17:42:12] Hurrah. [17:42:15] php maintenance/refreshLinks.php [17:42:15] Refreshing links table. [17:42:15] Starting from page_id 1 of . [17:44:27] I can't figure out where it gets the db and tables from [17:45:07] 0606,01The Cassiel is at the end of her nerves with texvc. anyone available to help? [17:45:21] Cassiel_, I solved that the other day... depending on your issue. Wha'ts the problem? [17:45:37] Cassiel_, maybe, try asking your question. Also, you seem to be printing brown on black or something similarly unreadable. [17:45:47] 0606,01I have no idea about like.. anything I'm supposed to do. [17:45:55] !texvc | Cassiel_ [17:45:58] Feh. [17:45:59] !math [17:45:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math [17:46:27] 0606,01See, I know the instructions, just not what to do with them. [17:46:36] 03mkroetzsch * r27854 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_Timeline.php: Use shorter printouts for linked page titles [17:46:38] Cassiel_, please stop writing in colored text, it's unreadable. [17:46:51] setuid, it seems to just be wfGetDB(). [17:47:13] Simetrical, well... there's also conf and aconf [17:47:46] 0606,01This better? [17:48:21] no [17:48:49] *Nikerabbit sends a booby trap to Trillian developer [17:49:11] 0606,01Now is it better? [17:49:13] it's not the first, nor second or third case we have colored text here, and it's always Trillian [17:49:35] Simetrical, Whose scripts are these? [17:49:42] brion? you? Other? [17:49:52] I think they're community scripts. ;-) [17:49:52] Cassiel_, no. [17:50:01] TimLaqua, They are now, sure. But who wrote them? [17:50:10] run a blame on it [17:50:15] setuid, not me. You can check the svn history if you want. [17:50:26] brion's had some hand in them. [17:50:30] I noticed that ;) [17:50:45] Actually I wonder how they work on Wikimedia sites without being able to specify a DB. [17:50:47] 0606,00After this I give up. Is it readable?06,01 [17:50:50] Looks like the three of you, rob, brion and yourself [17:51:18] Cassiel_: that's even worse! [17:51:39] dunno, I can read that one [17:52:12] flyingparchment, isn't there a mode you can set to strip color? +C or +c or something? [17:52:16] Cassiel_: last one is better [17:52:18] php maintenance/refreshLinks.php conf=LocalSettings.php aconf=/var/mediawiki/AdminSettings.php [17:52:18] Refreshing links table. [17:52:18] Starting from page_id 0 of . [17:52:18] 0 [17:52:22] bleh [17:52:27] 01,00..If I had a flame thrower, this computer would be a heap of ash. [17:52:36] Cassiel_, don't blame your computer, blame Trillian. [17:52:39] Simetrical: wikibugs and CIA uses colors [17:52:42] 01,00That too. [17:52:44] don't worry, it's not your fault. everyone who uses Trillian has this problem [17:52:47] VasilievVV|Busy, hmm, true. [17:52:48] I block all colors with xchat [17:52:49] it's an incredibly stupid irc client [17:52:50] I never see 'em [17:52:54] 01,00But the computer sucks too, for other reasons. [17:53:23] flyingparchment, mainly because it's not primarily an IRC client, it's a messenging client. And everyone who wants to use colors on MSN wants to use them on IRC, right? [17:53:31] *Simetrical wonders if Pidgin has this problem [17:53:38] 0606,01Actually.. no. But it defaults.0101,00 [17:53:52] 0606,01...Oh my god. It didn't jsut reset. Did it? [17:53:53] Cassiel_, now it's almost black-on-black again. [17:54:11] Cassiel_: could you please turn off colors? [17:54:22] 0606,01I can't. i tried and it switched back. [17:54:39] maybe change the irc client then [17:55:07] crap [17:55:15] 0606,01. . . that'd require finding another irc client. I'll just give up instead. [17:55:17] 0606,01bye~ [17:55:26] Simetrical, http://rafb.net/p/ovjld017.html [17:55:32] The scripts are too hard-coded for th edefaults [17:55:36] *the defaults [17:55:48] Perhaps we need to introduce !notrillian and !tempstripcolors commands [17:55:49] Once you deviate from them, rename the db, change table prefixes, etc.. All of ./maintenance/ fails [17:55:57] :( [17:56:16] setuid, what's the table it should be looking for? [17:56:27] TimLaqua, ep_en_page in database mediawiki [17:56:41] My prefixes are ${project}_${lang}_tablename [17:57:24] where'd it get that extra mediawiki_ prefix from? [17:57:40] I have no idea. I had to hard-coded the table prefixes into refreshLinks.inc [17:57:48] Once I did, it spewed the mediawikI_ prefix [17:58:06] oh, so you hardcoded ep_en_ [17:58:24] 03simetrical * r27855 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (namespaceDupes.php refreshLinks.php): Add some stub docs to refreshLinks.php, so at least refreshLinks.php --help doesn't start screwing with your database. $fname -> __METHOD__. [17:58:33] setuid, I'd be happy to commit a patch if you made one. [17:58:36] TimLaqua, To see if it would work, it didn't. [17:58:38] Simetrical, working on it [17:58:49] *Simetrical just got some cheap computer parts to upgrade his ancient and dying HP, yay [17:59:34] *Simetrical regrets not spending more, now that he got all the new shiny stuff [17:59:59] Simetrical, I bought two dual-AMD64 machines, complete with everything, ram, cpu, disk, etc. for $380 apiece, new... [18:00:03] They work great [18:01:19] I just spent half that on motherboard, dual-core AMD, and 2 GB RAM. [18:01:25] ;) [18:01:27] From where? [18:01:29] You always think "If I had just spent a *bit* more . . ." [18:01:32] But that way madness lies. [18:01:38] Or rather empty wallets. [18:01:40] newegg.com. [18:02:12] ah, I went with... "SMK Superstore" [18:04:22] hmm [18:04:44] are function local variables automatically freed in php after the function has finished? [18:04:57] Ok, definitely a bug [18:05:09] $end = $dbr->selectField( 'page', 'max(page_id)', false ); [18:05:13] If I change 'page' to: [18:05:18] $end = $dbr->selectField( 'ep_en_page', 'max(page_id)', false ); [18:05:25] Then it appends _two_ mediawiki strings to the query [18:05:37] MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'mediawiki.mediawiki_ep_en_page' doesn't exist (localhost)" [18:06:42] Nikerabbit: in theory yes, but note that objects are references, and strings (and maybe arrays) use copy-on-write semantics [18:11:02] What does wfGetDB() expect? I think it's pulling the wrong value... and doubling it's input [18:11:56] And it's ignoring the conf var [18:11:57] setuid, it's appending the prefix that is set in LocalSettings.php (assuming you're using conf, not aconf) to the table name [18:12:19] Is this the wrong way to run this? [18:12:21] php maintenance/refreshLinks.php conf=LocalSettings.php [18:12:42] don't think you need the =LocalSettings.php [18:13:11] php maintenance/refreshLinks.php conf [18:13:11]

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; in LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

[18:13:28] So I set that var, and it repeats the same error, which means it's not parsing the right LocalSettings.php [18:14:02] 03(mod) Users can login with global account and create an account in a wiki even if IP is blocked from account creations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11148 (10gangleri) [18:14:37] 03(mod) Temporary block may prevent a user from winning the unified account - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11149 (10gangleri) [18:15:43] ummm... conf ../LocalSettings.php [18:15:45] ? [18:16:26] Same [18:16:35] I wonder if it's getting $IP wrong [18:17:37] well, not specifying anything for conf will default to $IP/LocalSettings.php [18:17:48] Which is definitely going to fail [18:17:56] Because $IP is not where I run the wiki from [18:18:17] The source is there, but everything for each language wiki is in it's own subdir with symlinks (and works great, for 56 wikis) [18:18:33] try conf /absolutepath/LocalSettigns.php [18:18:38] I did that also [18:18:43] w/ = or space? [18:18:50] = [18:18:56] try w/ a space, not equal [18:18:57] Using space, same error [18:19:05] php maintenance/refreshLinks.php conf /var/www/sites/mediawiki/wikis/en/ep/LocalSettings.php [18:19:05]

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; in LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

[18:20:08] Same error when running from within the ./maintenance/ dir [18:20:12] Let me hard-code $IP [18:21:46] Getting better errors now [18:21:59] mmm, progress [18:22:07] Error: 1146 Table 'mediawiki.__page' doesn't exist (localhost) [18:22:17] And a big php dump... lemme hard-code that in [18:25:19] I don't get the double-underscore business [18:25:43] so now just mediawiki.page doesn't exist? [18:26:49] Query: SELECT max(page_id) FROM `__ep_en_page` LIMIT 1 [18:26:49] Function: Database::selectField [18:26:49] Error: 1146 Table 'mediawiki.__ep_en_page' doesn't exist (localhost) [18:27:00] setuid, $wgDBprefix = "ep_en_"; [18:27:28] and your select should just be "page" [18:27:45] http://rafb.net/p/jtU5UF88.html [18:28:13] awesome. [18:28:57] Not a very useful backtrace though [18:29:01] so you set $wgDBprefix and that happened? [18:29:05] Yes [18:30:49] nas [18:31:04] *TimLaqua shrugs [18:31:06] i'm outta ideas [18:31:25] Good help thus far though [18:31:35] hi, how can I make multi-language articles in my wiki? [18:33:09] setuid, mmm... my parser.php doesn't have that many lines. ;-) [18:33:21] hrm? [18:33:38] Mine has 5,444 lines [18:33:40] which version of mediawiki are you using? [18:33:56] trunk [18:34:05] hmm, lemme update [18:35:55] much better. [18:36:23] hi, how can I make multi-language articles in my wiki? [18:38:20] setuid, line 3634, Parser.php [18:38:36] 03catrope * r27856 10/trunk/extensions/Eval/SpecialEval.php: Eval: Add hidden title element so Special:Eval actually works and doesn't send you back to the main page. I know it's hard-coded and evil, but this entire extension is hard-coded and evil anyway. [18:39:01] MWException()? [18:39:20] that's where the error is being thrown [18:39:25] Right [18:39:48] and it's looking for 'ref' [18:39:52] I was wondering if it was easy / possible, to have mediawiki restrict anonymous users to comment on a page, but not make edits [18:39:53] 03catrope * r27857 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DifferenceEngine.php: Fixing DiffFormatter so it actually outputs valid diffs. [18:39:55] i.e. the Cite extension [18:40:04] I have all of the extensions [18:40:12] harveyd you can allow anons to edit talk pages, but not article pages [18:40:12] require_once( "$IP/extensions/Cite/Cite.php" ); [18:40:15] !access [18:40:15] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [18:40:26] That's in my LocalSettings.php [18:40:35] somewhat like the user contributed notes, ala http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.array-flip.php [18:40:37] harveyd: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#1.10_upwards [18:40:40] does anyone happen to know, with svn, if there's a single command to replace a tag (copy)? [18:40:53] flyingparchment you want to copy one tag to another? [18:41:01] no, i want to copy trunk to a tag [18:41:04] (that part's easy) [18:41:08] flyingparchment, Copy the tag, delete the original [18:41:10] then i want to copy it again, replacing the tag [18:41:18] svn copy from to [18:41:26] but i want to do it atomically - do i need to svn delete first, or can i just copy again? [18:41:30] setuid, well, $this->mTagHooks['ref'] isn't set - that's where the error's coming from. [18:41:34] that looks good, thanks [18:41:43] flyingparchment is atomicity really necessary or just a wish? [18:41:50] TimLaqua, That gets set in the Cite extension, no? [18:42:02] RoanKattouw: it's necessary. if i delete it, my build system will notice the repo changed, try to build it, fail, and whine at me [18:42:18] ... [18:42:37] setuid, I'd say so [18:42:48] setuid, so either it's *not* loading, or it's busted. [18:42:55] I'd opt for the first one. [18:43:01] Which would indicate that it's not loading the LocalSettings.php that includes it [18:43:43] hrm, I might have it working now [18:43:49] $IP was wrong (again) [18:43:59] It's doing something [18:44:05] run away! [18:44:18] Yeah well, it's 5.8M rows, so... we'll see [18:44:22] indeed [18:44:27] 03siebrand * r27858 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [18:44:27] Importing Crimean Tatar in Latin and Cyrillic. Default to Latin. [18:44:27] Submitted by: Alessandro [18:44:28] It'll probably take hours [18:44:30] we'll see ya in a few days. ;-) [18:44:46] Starting from page_id 0 of 13834646. [18:44:46] 0 [18:44:46] 100 [18:44:46] 200 [18:44:46] 300 [18:45:18] lol [18:45:24] zoom [18:53:09] which parameter needs to be set to restrict anonymous users to the main page/login form?= [18:54:31] hello to all [18:54:49] hi xhaju [18:55:20] I've got a question regarding database backups for mediawiki: I've a wiki and I want to make a copy which is open to everyone who wants to host it. [18:55:30] Is there any simple way to do it? [18:56:13] Warning: parse_url(http://localhost{{#if:A_relation-preserving_isomorphism|/mediawiki/index.php/Isomorphism#A_relation-preserving_isomorphism|/mediawiki/index.php/Isomorphism}}): Unable to parse URL in /var/www/sites/mediawiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1948 [18:56:15] woops ;) [18:56:37] you could simply to a mysql dump i guess o.o [18:56:44] !backup | xhaju [18:56:44] xhaju: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [18:56:58] thanks [18:58:58] I've seen this solution, but this doesn't solve my problem since the same user/password of my database has to be used in the backup [19:00:15] 03(NEW) Errors displaying error page with FastCGI - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12124 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (zorba-mediawiki-bugzilla) [19:00:23] Shouldn't be to hard to replace the nesscesay lines within the dump i think [19:01:07] xhaju to restore a dump you don't need the same user/pass; I could download your dump and import it with my user/pass just fine [19:02:24] yes? thanks a lot! [19:03:29] hi, how can I link pages that contain the same subject but different languages? [19:03:30] ello [19:03:40] I alredy tried [[es:Article]] [19:03:45] our spam barrier is broken http://fr.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Anglais_:_Savoir_Compter_de_1_%C3%A0_99&curid=19144&diff=142510&oldid=141983 [19:03:54] but it doesnt work [19:04:01] keogh [[:es:Article]] [19:04:15] any special configuration is needed? [19:04:19] [[es:Article]] means: the Spanish page corresponding to this one is at [[es:Article]] [19:04:20] was broken by spammers i mean [19:04:20] No [19:04:40] mm [19:04:41] enforced ? (sorry my bad english) [19:04:54] keogh if you look closely, you'll see a "Spanish" link somewhere in the sidebar of the revision that contains [[es:Article]] [19:05:53] doesnt work :S [19:06:03] I have installed mediawiki in my localhost [19:06:17] any additional configuration is not needed? [19:06:48] keogh oh wait you have [[ArticleEN]] which is the English version and [[ArticleES]] which is the Spanish version? [19:07:07] I have two pages, 'Installing' -> English version, and 'Instalacion' -> Spanish version [19:07:09] :o [19:07:12] I.e. both articles at the same wiki? [19:07:16] yeah [19:07:18] Yeah that's what I meant [19:07:27] yes same wiki [19:07:31] two articles [19:07:37] Installing, and instalacion [19:07:41] What you *could* do is this: [19:07:47] ok [19:07:58] *RoanKattouw searches like crazy [19:08:03] Hang in there for a minute [19:08:19] Wait, what's the issue? Isn't it just [[es:Installation]] [19:08:35] setuid no both pages are on the same wiki [19:08:46] keogh, Did you install the interwiki stuff, and populate the second page? [19:08:55] Sure, that's possible with the same wiki [19:09:01] So what keogh needs to do is create the es: and en: interwiki bindings to the same wiki [19:09:05] Right [19:09:07] And set them up as language prefixes [19:09:18] So keogh, back to normal language ;) : [19:09:29] setuid, not remember :P [19:09:31] o.0 [19:09:32] You need to add some stuff to the 'interwiki' table in the database [19:09:44] So you need database access [19:10:05] aja [19:10:11] I have access to it [19:10:16] Good [19:10:23] You need to add a new row to the 'interwiki' table [19:10:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Special_page_to_work_with_the_interwiki_table#Setting_up_interlanguage_links [19:10:51] ^easy :) [19:10:55] True [19:10:58] That's probably better [19:11:08] ok, let me see that article [19:11:34] It's an extension which lets you add interwiki bindings easily [19:13:08] So keogh you'll need to install that extension [19:14:07] it looks like I havent installed the interwiki extension [19:14:08] xD [19:14:13] *TimLaqua pokes MZMcBride [19:14:21] thanks anyway, I'll try to install it [19:14:44] anyone familliar w/ unaffiliated/ irc cloaks? [19:14:52] keogh: After you've installed it, do the following: [19:15:40] - Add an interwiki prefix -> Prefix = 'es:' URL = 'http://www.yourwiki.com/wiki/$1' check local [19:15:50] 03nikerabbit * r27859 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (6 files): * Small fixes and optimisation or something [19:15:54] Add another prefix just like that but with prefix = 'en:' [19:16:18] Then add [[es:Installacion]] to [[Installation]] and [[en:Installation]] to [[Installacion]] [19:16:24] That should do it [19:16:52] I gotta go now [19:18:45] :o [19:18:46] thanks [19:30:26] I have problems installing Interwiki extension [19:30:34] I follow the manual steps [19:30:40] but when I go to my wiki [19:31:02] it appears without style and shows the SpecialInterwiki.php code file :S [19:31:10] I dont know what happend :P [19:33:19] test [19:33:21] test [19:33:54] I already solved :P [19:34:00] thanks a lot [19:34:13] how to change screen name [19:34:22] /nick NewRay [19:34:30] cool, thanks [19:34:44] wow, simple [19:35:22] test finished [19:35:24] bye [19:35:46] d [19:36:43] 03siebrand * r27860 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (114 files): Address potential issues in wikis using $wgCapitalLinks [19:36:45] So, that upgrade went well. [19:36:59] In the sense that I was able to reassemble my computer with its old components and it appears to still work correctly. [19:37:17] See, I thought the case was ATX. You get one guess as to whether I was correct. [19:39:52] 03siebrand * r27861 10/trunk/extensions/ (Makebot/Makebot.i18n.php Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop.i18n.php): Address potential issues in wikis using $wgCapitalLinks in extension messages [19:42:40] 03nikerabbit * r27862 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateUtils.php: * Reverting a bit. MessageCache is braindead and is doing ucfirst to all messages, regardless of $wgCapitalLinks. (which is wrong, imho) [19:51:52] 03river * r27863 10/trunk/extensions/CrowdAuthentication/CrowdAuthentication.php: - in case user doesn't give a real name, set first name to username [19:52:05] 03nikerabbit * r27864 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageKaa.php: * Adding LanguageKaa [20:00:30] without manually editing the the db, where do i go to make a user a sysop? [20:01:21] Special:Userrights [20:03:34] Jack_Phoenix: it said... "The action you have requested is limited to users with the "userrights" permission assigned." [20:04:22] locke_: how did you configured $wgGroupPermissions ? [20:06:59] locke_, make yourself a bureaucrat in the database, then you should have access (unless you've fiddled with the permissions settings). [20:08:57] Hello [20:10:03] Simetrical: thank you. where would i go to create new groups so that when i hit protect i can pick only a certain group to be able to edit the page? [20:10:18] !configuration | locke_ [20:10:18] locke_ : *All* configuration is done in LocalSettings.php. Do not edit any other file unless you want to get into serious hacking. You may want to *look* at the settings in DefaultSettings.php though, some are not in LocalSettings.php per default. See , , [20:10:41] locke_, there's an option for that, something like $wgRestrictionLevels. You also need to add the group to the $wgGroupPermissions array. [20:11:08] and all of this is found in localsettings.php? [20:12:15] locke_, it's a PHP file. If you want to set a variable, just use ordinary PHP assignment syntax: $wgWhatever = 'some string'; [20:12:20] locke_, the manual has plenty of examples. [20:14:41] Simetrical: thank you [20:15:00] I got a report per email about possible troll activity on Bugzilla. Who can I forward that to? [20:16:04] anyone know of any extensions that extend QueryResult [20:16:05] ? [20:16:25] siebrand, probably brion. robchurch is the only other one I know of who's used admin access to Bugzilla, and he seems not-around. [20:16:58] Simetrical: ok, thanks. [20:18:04] I'd like to make several wikis, which are in the same family and actually using the same db (in different namespace/db prefix), use same tables for user identify (and auth). It seems there is no serious extension for central auth/user identity that's why I'm think just to change table name for user ('user' as far as I know), and let other tables isolated. Is it already done with any extension ? Is it possible to extend in [20:19:53] Telemac: You might have a peek at CentralAuth [20:20:13] I'm not sure really what point of stability it's at right now, but it should do what you need [20:20:31] amidaniel: Many people say it's a bad hack, and it's, lot of thing hard coded [20:20:59] amidaniel: for exemple you cannot change name of database used and things like that [20:21:00] a bad hack? Don't let tim or brion hear you :) [20:21:20] *Simetrical doubts they'd disagree [20:21:26] Since when did Tim do anything on CentralAuth anyway? [20:21:58] Well, the hacky part is the migration, I believe [20:22:07] The actual "auth" part, I think is fine [20:22:42] hello, coudl anyone help me with a template [20:22:43] amidaniel: I've tried it and I don't think so [20:22:43] Simetrical: And 3 months looks to be your answer :) [20:23:00] !ask | zaliavos1 [20:23:00] zaliavos1 : Don't ask to ask, Don't state: "I have a question", Don't ask: "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just Ask The Question. Also, please read: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc [20:24:01] http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0ablonas:Navbox/core i want this to look like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox/core what is the problem? [20:26:13] 03brion * r27865 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/namespaceDupes.php): * namespaceDupes.php no longer dies when coming across an illegal title [20:26:22] zaliavos1: You don't have any styles defined for "navbox" [20:26:52] where and how shoul i define them [20:27:06] it is a copy/paste [20:28:03] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 50 edits for the Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 +comment (10nasib) [20:28:16] zaliavos1: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/78074 [20:28:24] Stick that in MediaWiki:Common.css [20:29:06] Is there any hook where it is possible (properly) to modify loaded Database class instances ? [20:29:18] 03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313 (10brion) [20:29:18] thnks [20:29:46] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 50 edits for the Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 (10nasib) [20:31:14] If i can provide additional (locally) hardware, can a local wiki resume page view count?? [20:32:39] zaliavos1, no. [20:33:33] zaliavos1, if you can provide a fast program to aggregate the Squid views, though, that can be incorporated into MediaWiki, that might get done. [20:37:14] hello [20:37:54] I have a problem after the install of mediawiki. Is anyone willing to help? [20:39:59] 03(NEW) Tabs removed from textareas when editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12125 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (acsulli) [20:41:22] 03(mod) Tabs removed from textareas when editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12125 (10brion) [20:42:47] Will_Barry: better describe your problem... [20:43:31] I installed it and it said everything was fine. I move the config file [20:43:37] *moved [20:44:36] the problem is that I get a message in firefox about a redirect taking too long, "redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete." [20:44:46] when I try to access the main page [20:47:27] MediaWiki says my PHP's memory_limit is 128M, and I attempted to set it to 256M. The php.ini file reads this [20:48:02] I am using the latest version of WAMP for use on localhost [20:55:41] Will_Barry: no idea... [20:56:30] it's rather bugging me [20:57:25] I'm planning on integrating user accounts for a forum and a wiki. Quite hard I would imagine [21:00:08] !AuthPlugin | Will_Barry [21:00:14] o_O [21:00:18] *Duesentrieb kicks the bot [21:00:21] @search auth [21:00:21] Results: [auth, centralauth, import, ldap, sul] [21:00:30] !auth [21:00:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [21:00:43] yea, that :) [21:01:04] Will_Barry: see above. that'S the plugin interface for account/login sharing [21:01:23] it has been implemented to work with a lot of things - phpbb for example [21:01:33] ah... that will be helpful [21:01:46] *ialex points #mwbot to Duesentrieb [21:02:13] ialex: uh... why? [21:03:26] Duesentrieb: if you want to "play" with the bot, you don't flood this channel [21:05:18] ialex: err. i'd say i did nither. [21:13:40] has any one set up mediawiki to work with fastcgi on iis [21:13:52] and was it a good idea? [21:20:51] 03gri6507 * r27866 10/trunk/extensions/Tooltip/Tooltip.php: Added parser hook for the extension. [21:40:31] <_sj_> hiya, who runs the page-blanking bots? [21:40:35] <_sj_> for en:wp for instance... [21:40:53] _sj_ shouldn't the bot's user page state who's running it? [22:05:18] 03huji * r27867 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Adding translation for newly added messages. [22:05:54] What happens if you use the latest version of mediawiki with PHP4, there is features that won't work? [22:06:03] test34_ it'll break [22:06:06] It won't work at all [22:06:14] PHP4 doesn't understand the MW 1.11 code [22:06:16] it works [22:06:21] Really? [22:06:23] so far [22:06:26] ^^ [22:06:41] It's only a matter of time before you get hundreds of error messages thrown in your face [22:06:45] I have v4.4.4 [22:06:54] And MW ver? [22:07:12] 1.11.0 [22:07:19] Wow [22:07:26] it says 4.4.4 on Special:Version? [22:07:28] Congratulations, you've managed to do the impossible (so far) [22:07:44] but there must be some features that doesnt work I guess [22:07:51] let me check MZMcBride [22:08:58] test34_: php4 should not even *parse* the most basic components of mediawiki. nothing would work. [22:09:13] test34_: can you show us the miracle? [22:10:50] it says PHP: 5.2.0 (cgi) in Special:Version, but I dont know how this can be possible, because I don't have php5 on the shell anywhere [22:11:10] test34_ php --version [22:11:15] What does that give you? [22:11:24] PHP 4.4.4 (cli) (built: Aug 29 2006 18:43:30) [22:11:30] ... [22:11:41] Apparently Apache found php5 *somewhere* [22:11:57] I'm in a jail shell.. maybe that's why [22:12:14] 03(mod) Restrict page moves to autoconfirmed users on all WMF wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 (10meno25wiki) [22:13:01] thanks.. I guess I have php5! [22:13:30] php5 --version ? :) [22:13:58] str4nd he doesn't have a php5 in his $PATH [22:14:10] 03(mod) Searching "music of" yields no results - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12081 (10raimond.spekking) [22:14:13] ah, sucks :/ [22:14:30] I dont have a binary named php5 str4nd [22:14:42] ok ok, nites [22:14:53] 03(mod) Tabs removed from textareas when editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12125 (10acsulli) [22:15:04] I can't run the maintenance script since I dont have access to php5 via the shell [22:16:07] test34_: that sucks - and the inconsistency is probably not intended. talk to your hosting people [22:17:17] Duesentrieb, they are in the process of upgrading.. hopefully that's why [22:17:37] I'll contact them [22:19:01] 0000,01I THINK I finally fixed my text color problems. [22:20:00] *domas nukes Cassiel_ [22:20:12] 14(DUP) PATCH - Special:Emailuser