[00:00:17] does the test wikipedia run the absolute current trunk code of mediawiki? [00:00:25] chuck no [00:00:31] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [00:00:31] what is it then? lol [00:00:46] It's at r27992 now, trunk is at 28037 [00:01:46] oh [00:07:00] how exactly do i add an interwiki prefix to a wiki? [00:07:17] insert into interwiki ... [00:07:23] chuck www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Special:Interwiki [00:07:32] Shit, doesn't exist [00:07:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Special_page_to_work_with_the_interwiki_table [00:07:52] That's [00:07:54] it [00:07:58] oh, okay thanks [00:08:10] Oh, never seen that before :) [00:08:25] and is it possible to have one interwiki table between a bunch of wikis i have in a farm? [00:08:44] Really would be nice to get something like that merged into core ... nobody can ever figure out how to configure interwikis [00:09:09] Yea [00:09:10] h [00:11:55] why do wikis reinvent the wheel and not use HTML tags? its easier to learn too. [00:15:33] I get two errors upon install.. Warning: fopen(../maintenance/tables.sql) No such file or directory ... but its there alright. [00:16:11] Is it readable? [00:17:23] Yes [00:17:48] Also readable by the web server? [00:18:06] Yes, I renamed the config dir though. any effect? [00:18:53] Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: No such file or directory [00:19:02] wiki/c_onfig/index.php on line 756 [00:19:16] Thats why I guess [00:19:17] Vooloo: you can use most simple html tags in mediawiki. [00:19:21] Vooloo: just try. [00:19:37] I had to edit: chdir( "c_onfig" ); [00:19:42] tables, lists, blocks, styles... all there. [00:19:55] Vooloo: Why did you rename the config directory? O.o [00:20:05] amidaniel: because i told him to. [00:20:11] Duesentrieb: Ah :) [00:20:18] amidaniel: because some hosts have a control panel or some such mapped to /config/ [00:20:22] Duesentrieb: Perchance a problem with that control panel again? [00:20:26] Oh, yes :) [00:20:29] which was apparently the case for him [00:20:36] yeah, thanks [00:20:52] *amidaniel tries diligently to keep his thoughts on control panels to himself [00:21:13] Vooloo: the hardcoded path sucks a bit. file a bug about it if you like. [00:22:45] 03catrope * r28038 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php): Reverting prop=revisions diff generation: way too expensive and DoS-vulnerable [00:24:26] Duesentrieb: i would need to register to do that, too lazy :P [00:24:57] *amidaniel glares at RoanKattouw [00:35:23] is it possible to have one interwiki table between a bunch of wikis i have in a farm? [00:36:34] chuck: i don't think mediawiki supports it, but if you use mysql 5, you can simply set up views [00:37:18] views? [00:37:24] *chuck googles it [00:37:43] chuck: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/create-view.html [00:37:52] is brion around? [00:38:05] anyway, gotta go to bed [00:38:07] gn8 [00:41:12] 03siebrand * r28039 10/trunk/extensions/ScanSet/ (ScanSet.i18n.php ScanSet.php ScanSet_body.php): [00:41:12] * Add extension credits [00:41:12] * Add i18n file [00:41:12] * Trailing whitespace removed [00:41:38] 03siebrand * r28040 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for ScanSet [00:41:58] Does anyone knwo if it is possible to rename the MediaWiki database on a live installation? [00:43:37] mike_jh, just rename it then change the database configuration option in LocalSettings.php i think and that would work [00:44:58] What I have is a live wiki and I want to do some testing on a live sample of the data. So I've created a new Apache vhost and database and copied the old data into the new DB [00:45:09] But when I goto the wiki I'm getting an error [00:45:22] Error: 1146 Table 'dev-wikidb.page' doesn't exist (localhost) [00:45:36] I guess it includes the wiki name in the database [00:45:55] are you sure you setup the table prefixes correctly? [00:46:53] Well, I've done an SQLdump from the old DB and fed that into the new one [01:03:26] after enabling pretty urls I can't goto the login page :\ [01:04:44] and all edits says editing index.php [01:06:29] !rewrite | Vooloo [01:06:29] Vooloo : a) do not put the files into the document root b) do not map the pages into the document root c) use different pathes for real files and virtual pages d) do not set a RewriteBase e) but all rules into the .htacces in the document root. [01:07:00] so if I use a subdomain as wiki. I still need it to be in a stupid wiki/ dir ? :S [01:07:38] no, you can make really shorturls [01:07:47] !shorturl [01:07:47] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [01:08:08] Yeah but I was hoping not to use /wiki/ [01:08:39] tried this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki.example.com/Page_title--Subdomain_with_no_Subdirectory_in_Article_URL [01:09:29] 03(mod) Move mo to mo-cyr, set up new Latin-based mo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4409 +comment (10gangleri) [01:14:03] Vooloo: that's possible [01:25:47] w00t, the ugly integration works [01:27:23] only have to fake user credentials still :') [02:11:17] this extension creates a sidebar block: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShareThis [02:11:25] but it creates it above the languages block [02:11:42] is there any way of moving it down? [02:15:32] and/or is there a way to put something like the sitenotice at the /bottom/ of every page? [02:20:24] hi. right now, I get a visible on history pages on test.wp. is that a known issue? [02:43:44] same on special:newimages. [02:51:38] 03(NEW) wpReason broken in Article.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12178 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (MZMcBride) [03:16:57] 03(mod) Move mo to mo-cyr, set up new Latin-based mo - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4409 (10pathoschild) [03:17:20] :O [03:17:31] :O [03:41:26] 03shinjiman * r28041 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [03:41:26] * updating the manual tables, fixing some conversion errors, and regenerate the ZhConversion.php using the scripts and manual tables [03:41:26] * minor cleanup for the LanguageZh.php [03:49:20] what will happen if I enable $wgUseSharedUploads = true; pointing to another wiki, if I already have some images uploaded? [03:49:55] will those images still be accesible? [03:53:50] or could I export the relevant tables from the DB, and re-import them into the pool wiki, and copy the files? [04:09:12] 03shinjiman * r28042 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [04:09:12] * Update Chinese translations [04:09:12] * Update Cantonese translations [04:09:12] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [04:12:21] do parserfunctions come with mediawiki yet, or are they still Sold Separately™ [04:13:32] still an extension [04:13:56] ok thank you [04:17:12] 03(NEW) No login for certain actions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12179 15enhancement; lowest; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (brianriab) [04:18:48] 03(mod) Unclear how to submit feature requests. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3659 (10brianriab) [04:24:38] How do I protect the sidebar of the wiki ? [04:24:57] I receive internal server error.. [04:28:13] man, confirmaccount has a lot of neat features [04:32:46] TuskerKing: hmmm? the sidebar is protected from editing by non-sysops by default [04:33:37] i have sysops account [04:33:48] yesterday i installed wiki [04:34:01] i got internal error [04:35:06] It says "This action cannot be performed on this page." [04:35:29] yes, you cannot use action=protect in the MediaWiki namespace [04:35:44] all pages in the MediaWiki namespace are protected from non-sysops by default [04:37:47] 03shinjiman * r28043 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: +kevinhksouth [05:30:17] hiya, I think I have a rendering bug, can someone confirm, and perhaps figure a "quick fix" until it's remedied? [05:30:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/bug_test [05:30:17] Correct rendering (I think) Section 2 header should be at the left under section 1. [05:30:17] Current rendering: Section title and following text is indented and is aligned with the table [05:30:17] any chance of a quick check? [05:32:10] FT2: lemme take a look [05:33:52] Basically under some circumstances, tables when they end, dont reset the indenting back correctly. It seems to especially affect collapsible tables, but also normal ones [05:37:44] FT2: I would consider this a syntax error [05:37:50] ok [05:37:53] what's the error? [05:38:19] Ive added and removed syntax elements, what's the one I missed? [05:38:31] normally tables don't allow anything before them on the same line [05:38:45] They don't? [05:38:49] no [05:38:52] ah. [05:38:56] That i wasnt aware of [05:39:52] I tried placing a table inside a
tag using text-indent, and left-margin elements [05:39:55] those didnt work either [05:40:00] whats the fix? [05:40:27] what are you trying to do with the table? [05:41:30] indent it [05:41:36] one sec [05:41:36] below a ::: comment [05:42:03] I can nest it in a 2nd table with a fixed width column, but its clumsy [05:42:23] can't you just use padding-left? [05:43:42] unfortunately its a colored background for emphasis. It doesnt look good [05:43:48] othewise usually, yes, and good idea [05:44:07] plus padding doesnt move the left border [05:44:15] it indents the contents, not the box [05:44:24] (more of a problem() [05:45:20] FT2: look on the page now [05:46:06] I screwed up your border a lil' bit but you get the idea [05:46:18] you got margin-left to work? [05:46:34] put it in the style [05:46:44] nods [05:46:47] I thought Id tried that [05:47:04] obviously not [05:47:51] and it works on the inner table correctly too [05:47:54] excellent [05:48:07] no, I hadnt realized that :*# before a table weren't usual [05:48:15] or possible [05:48:44] thanks [05:48:51] np [05:49:05] well thats a headache solved :) [05:49:11] seeya and thanks :) [05:49:15] yup [05:50:42] MZMcBride: I'm great with html, OK with php, and f'ing pissed when looking for a combination of the 2 in a large set of files [06:05:27] !ask | huggle [06:05:27] huggle : Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [06:05:34] :D [06:05:37] :O [06:25:24] *amidaniel detests people who do not know how to write a decent program specification [06:46:19] 03(mod) The edit url for the first section edits the wrong section. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 +comment (10huji.huji) [06:49:41] 03(mod) The edit url for the first section edits the wrong section. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [06:53:41] 03(mod) The edit url for the first section edits the wrong section. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 (10huji.huji) [07:25:58] does the concept of autoconfirmed accounts come with mediawiki? [07:26:11] yah [07:26:44] k [07:50:11] 03(NEW) Null edit does not correctly update link tables in case of ifexists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12180 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (andreengels) [07:52:10] *amidaniel wonders why that would be marked as "Database" ... [07:53:07] amidaniel: database tables [07:53:25] 03(NEW) Create the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chanel5) [07:53:30] Yay. :D [07:53:39] My first bug. :DD [07:53:42] *huggle dances. [07:53:50] huggle: Which'n? [07:54:05] Creating the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia. :) [07:54:42] *huggle continues dancing. [07:55:51] ermkay ... [07:55:59] harrow huggle [07:56:07] huggle: are you still up for catching up in january? [07:56:24] amidaniel: I'm still proud of myself, so there. :'( [07:56:32] Werdna! [07:56:41] Werdna: Indeedly I am. [07:57:04] 03(mod) Null edit does not correctly update link tables in case of ifexists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12180 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [07:57:57] huggle: I'm in SoCal something like 17th-19th, maybe starting a bit earlier [07:58:15] you moved to california? [07:58:18] :O [07:58:29] no.. I'm there for a week in January. [08:02:42] Werdna: Well, I will be in school again by January 7th. Which sucks. [08:03:03] *amidaniel doesn't have to be back till the 21st [08:03:07] *amidaniel does a little dance [08:03:14] Of course, I'm not out yet ... [08:03:20] *huggle wails. [08:03:41] *amidaniel takes pleasure in huggle's pain [08:03:45] amidaniel: Our holidays are from Dec 20-Jan 7. [08:03:57] *huggle throws Pathoschild at amidaniel. [08:04:14] Damn, that's a short break. I'm out from the 15th till the 21st [08:04:28] 15th of December till the 21st of Jan, that is [08:04:51] amidaniel: and who will restart mwbot while you have a break? [08:04:52] *huggle wonders when amidaniel's summer vacation begins. [08:05:21] VasilievVV: Well, I never seem to have a *complete* break [08:05:59] *amidaniel recalls taking his laptop with him on a cruise last year [08:06:14] Nerd. [08:06:21] No shit. [08:06:24] amidaniel: btw, is there a way to add an entry to mwbot? [08:06:49] No, mwbot thinks up these entries on his own. [08:07:05] !help | VasilievVV [08:07:05] VasilievVV : Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [08:08:25] If you want features, get the requests to me within the next couple of weeks. This break may be the last break I have for a long, long, long time :) [08:08:57] What's the cur_id? [08:09:04] TimStarling: there is still some problem with section editing: http://translatewiki.net//w/?title=Template:Languages_of&action=edit§ion=1 [08:09:26] Pathoschild: come again? [08:10:16] The cur_id of a page; it shows up in the URL in diff links, and it's used in the categorylinks table's cl_from field. [08:10:40] Pathoschild: Yeah, that's the primary key for pages [08:10:51] s/pages/revisions * [08:11:09] isn't the oldid that? [08:11:29] cur_id == oldid [08:11:38] Yes [08:13:08] Hmm.. SQL returns cl_form=6, cl_timestamp=2007-10-06 09:07:58 in the Incubator's categorylinks table, but is uncategorized. [08:13:50] (cl_from being the cur_id, according to ). [08:14:31] cl_from would be a pageid ... [08:15:32] Oh, I'm sorry .. curid is indeed the pageid [08:15:37] *amidaniel was right the first time :) [08:15:46] Nikerabbit: that didn't happen before did i? [08:15:49] it? [08:16:29] Hm... Then what is the JavaScript wgArticleId? [08:16:32] TimStarling: well it only appeared in the logs today for the first time [08:16:42] cl_from = 6, wgArticleId = 27462. [08:16:44] yeah, easy to fix [08:17:12] Pathoschild: wgArticleId would be the id of the page you're currently looking at [08:17:51] So if I'm looking at the page for cur_id 6, shouldn't the wgArticleId be 6? [08:20:54] What page would that be? [08:21:36] Ah, so it is. I performed another SQL query to find out what the page title is. :) [08:27:15] Yeah, really couldn't have picked much more confusing names for those columns :) [08:27:52] 03tstarling * r28044 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: [08:27:52] * Fix incorrect call to PPFrame::implode() from PPFrame::expand() [08:27:52] * Add PPFrame::splitBraceNode() for use in extensions [08:27:52] * Remove some obsolete debugging code [08:27:57] Nikerabbit: try that [08:28:29] so you're not seeing bug 12154 now? [08:31:01] TimStarling: fixed, and nope [08:34:18] 03(mod) Erratic total failure of unstrip phase in new preprocessor - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12154 (10tstarling) [09:02:22] 03shinjiman * r28045 10/trunk/phase3/ (11 files in 6 dirs): * (bug 451) adding a generic Traditional / Simplified Chinese conversion table, with their variants [09:24:43] <_wooz> lo [09:25:10] hm... [09:25:30] there's {{CONTENTLANGUAGE}}, but not {{USERLANGUAGE}}... [09:25:43] why is that so? the parser cache is per-user-language anyway, right? [09:26:19] Possibly because no one's implemented it? [09:39:56] 03shinjiman * r28046 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc: set the variant type messages as optional [09:43:10] mmm... the {{USERLANGUAGE}} was implemented before, however it was reverted... [09:43:30] ...because of the cache on the server... [09:48:15] Shinjiman: but but... the cache is per language anyway? [09:48:28] somehow, this doesn't make sense :/ [09:48:55] (or maybe it isn't, and i have dreamed that up?...) [09:50:55] in User::getPageRenderingHash: $confstr .= '!' . $wgLang->getCode(); [09:51:00] so, it's per language... [10:08:10] Hi, is possible to use directly images from commons on my wiki wiithout upload? [10:13:20] Duesentrieb: I think the implementation was reverted by brion before... [10:13:36] yea, but *why*? [10:13:47] Sevela_p: no. [10:14:37] 03siebrand * r28047 10/trunk/extensions/ (AjaxQueryPages/Load.php AjaxShowEditors/Load.php): Add url to wgExtensionCredits, even though there is no page yet. [10:14:44] Sevela_p: that would be bendwidth leeching. there's a proposal to allow this though: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons [10:15:00] Sevela_p: the implementation is not trivial, and legal aspects complicate it further [10:15:44] Duesentrieb: not much idea, it was only have a log message by brion in r21656, for example. [10:16:16] hm - how do i fetch that message from svn without having to co that revision? [10:16:58] ah, svn log -r 21656 [10:17:16] uh... bah. "there are severe problems with relying on a user-language variable, which is why it has not been added" [10:17:17] wtf? [10:17:20] Just browse the repo on browser via viewvc, then use Ctrl+F to find about the keyword. :) [10:17:48] viewvc is da sux0r [10:18:12] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=log [10:19:02] there's no "next page" link :/ [10:19:53] because there's no "next page" link, so it is useful to finding stuffs by Ctrl+F. :) [10:20:09] does it mean tehre are no previous revisions? [10:20:12] there's no cutoff? [10:20:23] that would suck if i looked at the log for an entire directory [10:20:45] and if i can't do that, i have to know what file to look at... [10:20:50] viewvc-- [10:21:52] or if u have a TortoiseSVN or similar stuffs like that, u can find a message on a desired period.. [10:22:11] siebrand: Why would you do that? [10:22:29] michi_cc: what? [10:22:37] minute: what? [10:22:40] Add links to non-existant pages.... [10:22:51] Shinjiman: hmm... damn :) it was actually me who tried to add that in r21560 :) i totally forget... [10:22:55] minute: 'red link' concept? [10:23:19] minute: it points to a wiki, so anyone can add (partial) documentation. [10:23:38] minute: you think it is a bad thing? [10:23:50] I don't see the sense in that, but if you do. [10:24:19] ah... ok, i see. [10:24:34] minute: I've been doing a lot of meta stuff on extensions and many have no to very little documentation. I thought this could be one way to encourage writing some... [10:24:51] Maybe, it might. [10:24:52] if a conditionla section that depends on user language contains a link (or template), then the links tables and caches get confused. [10:24:54] that would suck [10:24:56] too damn bad. [10:25:10] http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--MediaWiki-CVS--SVN%3A--21560--trunk-phase3-includes-tf3645176r0.html [10:25:30] minute: but if you think it will not help at all, I'll hold off on similar future commits :) [10:26:03] No, don't. [10:26:08] It makes sense now. [10:26:40] minute: ok, thanks :) [10:26:50] :P [10:33:29] 03(mod) Create the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181 (10cynic) [10:34:01] Hello [10:48:46] 03shinjiman * r28048 10/trunk/phase3/languages/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [10:48:47] * (bug 12145) Update Kazakh translations [10:48:47] Patch by AlefZet [10:48:54] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10shinjiman) [11:20:01] 03(mod) Null edit does not correctly update link tables in case of ifexists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12180 +comment (10lejonel) [11:30:18] wondering if anyone knows why {{REVISIONID}} is always equal to 0 now [11:30:53] enhydra: parser bug? [11:31:14] hm, fixed now [11:34:24] 03(FIXED) Null edit does not correctly update link tables in case of ifexists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12180 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [11:47:53] byez [11:55:33] 03(NEW) DoubleRedirects is incomplete - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12182 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (gtisza) [12:20:57] *qsheets is going to sleep for a couple of hours [12:51:04] enhydra: If you are previewing a page {{REVISIONID}} always equals 0. [12:51:13] Maybe that is why. [12:53:41] minute, I know, and I use this trick to hide a box in my talkpage when previewing (it impedes users), but I felt strange when that box disappeared after saving [12:54:13] lol ok [13:03:51] Hi, I was wondering... why is the Contents list at the top of a page with more than a few headers an unordered list (
    )? [13:04:08] it seems to me an
      would be more appropriate...? [13:05:02] Hi everybody [13:05:12] b4: it's
        with CSS that makes it
          [13:05:25] right, but why is it
            ? [13:05:28] anyone here who has experience with the language template? [13:05:45] CSS doesn't make it
              , it just makes it look like that, that has no structural meaning [13:13:00] !ask | Julian| [13:13:00] Julian|: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [13:13:13] :P [13:13:14] *RoanKattouw kicks CIA-39 [13:13:14] ow [13:13:40] CIA-39: can you speak? [13:13:41] Well I`am havin some problem with this... tryied to integrate the template to my wiki... but its driving me nuts [13:13:47] uts look quit worth on my wiki [13:13:48] :-/ [13:15:28] Why didn't CIA-39 say anything about http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&rev=28049 ? [13:16:22] I know it was a huge rev... but that shouldn't matter [13:16:37] http://www.horstspace.de/wiki/index.php/Template:Languages [13:16:43] so you get to see what i know [13:18:56] mean [13:18:58] arks [13:19:02] bad fingers :-) [13:20:05] wb RoanKattouw [13:20:58] thx [13:21:28] Julian|: enable tidy [13:21:31] !tidy [13:21:31] For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [13:21:42] thanks [13:21:47] let me take a look :-( [13:21:48] :-) [13:22:01] i'm not sure that is the problem - but tables built by complex templates are often screwed up with tidy disabled [13:22:20] (this should get better with tim's new preprocessor) [13:24:13] hello, I am getting this error -- Fatal error: Call to a member function get() on a non-object in ... [13:24:17] Duesentrieb: is the new pp now active ? [13:24:25] any idea what's the problem? [13:24:44] G0SUB: The rest of that message would be helpful :) [13:24:46] G0SUB: on a non-object in what? [13:25:06] /path/languages/Language.php on line 1617 [13:25:13] ThomasV: i don't think so [13:25:22] G0SUB version? [13:25:31] RoanKattouw: 1.11.x [13:25:50] G0SUB: did you upgrade recently? does that happen since an upgrade? and, what is .x? [13:26:01] G0SUB: a line number is only meaning full with an exact version id. [13:26:09] *meaningful [13:26:11] Duesentrieb: 1.11.0 [13:26:30] G0SUB: ok. did you look at that line? [13:26:39] Hello [13:26:43] WTF [13:26:49] $cache = $wgMemc->get( $memcKey ); [13:27:00] That's Language.php:1617 in 1.11.0 [13:27:11] $cache = $wgMemc->get( $memcKey ); [13:27:12] so, wgMemc is 0 [13:27:17] So that means $wgMemc is not an object ?!? [13:27:18] err, NULL [13:27:41] Shouldn't $wgMemc at least be some dummy object if memcaching is disabled? [13:27:49] G0SUB: enable more detailed error output [13:27:53] !debug ! G0SUB [13:28:00] !debug | G0SUB [13:28:00] G0SUB: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [13:28:06] a stack trace would be usefull [13:28:10] Duesentrieb: this is during the install phase [13:28:22] o_O [13:28:25] G0SUB: What are your caching settings currently? [13:28:25] that's very odd... [13:28:37] amidaniel: none [13:28:43] $wgMemc will produce an error in 1.11 if you have it set to cache without running a memcached instance [13:28:48] G0SUB: fresh, clean install? [13:28:58] Duesentrieb: yes [13:29:03] odd indeed. [13:29:06] Duesentrieb: 1.11.0 works fine for me [13:29:07] no clue. [13:29:15] Without touching the caching settings that is [13:29:15] RoanKattouw: hm? [13:29:26] G0SUB did you touch any cache-related stuff in LocalSettings.php ? [13:29:36] Duesentrieb: I have a 1.11.0 running right now [13:29:40] RoanKattouw: no [13:29:48] $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE; [13:29:55] G0SUB: $wgMemCachedServers = array(); [13:29:56] G0SUB: Can you find me the values of $wgUseMemCached and $wgMainCacheType ? [13:30:00] Works for me [13:30:06] I also got this Couldn't find Turck MMCache, eAccelerator, APC or XCache; cannot use these for object caching. [13:30:27] G0SUB: Yeah, you clearly have caching enabled [13:30:46] strange! [13:31:05] G0SUB: Set $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE; [13:31:13] amidaniel: in which file? [13:31:19] !localsettings [13:31:19] *All* configuration is done in LocalSettings.php. Do not edit any other file unless you want to get into serious hacking. You may want to *look* at the settings in DefaultSettings.php though, some are not in LocalSettings.php per default. See , , [13:31:22] G0SUB what are your values for $wgMainCacheType and $wgMemCachedServers in LocalSettings.php ? [13:31:55] There are options during the install that allow you to set these values .. and the install of course doesn't check if the options work or not [13:33:06] RoanKattouw: it hasn't been created yet [13:33:15] :O [13:33:24] How can that be [13:33:39] We are talking about /path/LocalSettings.php , not /path/includes/LocalSettings.php [13:33:39] G0SUB: Did you copy it from your ./config to . ? [13:34:07] amidaniel: there is only index.php in config [13:34:26] G0SUB: Then there should be LocalSettings.php in the directory above that. [13:36:14] he said the error happens DURING install [13:36:24] telling him to change stuff in LocalSettings.php is pointless [13:37:18] Oh? I guess I missed that [13:37:23] this type of error really shouldn't happen while installing. unless you told mw to use a caching system that is not available (in that case, there should be a better error message) [13:38:21] Well, the installer shouldn't have to touch any object cache [13:38:51] this is for the Ubuntu India wiki. we had 1.5.8 before that, but it suddenly broke today. so I thought of migrating to 1.11.0 [13:39:07] G0SUB: What version of php are you running? [13:39:08] if anybody can help, I can give you access to the server ... [13:39:23] 5.1.4 [13:40:10] amidaniel: it uses messages. and the messaging system unwittingly accesses the cache. which should be a dummy, at that point. but something fucks up in his case. [13:40:27] Weird [13:40:33] Duesentrieb: Yes, and I remember there being problems with FauxCache or whatever it was called [13:40:44] G0SUB you just installed and went to the config thing and didn't do anything hinky? [13:41:11] amidaniel: well, if you jhave details on that, it might help him :) [13:41:11] RoanKattouw: no. and before that I removed the old dir with the older install [13:41:21] Right [13:41:33] Is your server public? If so, could you give us a URL [13:41:41] RoanKattouw: yes. ubuntu-in.org [13:41:47] Duesentrieb: Yes, I'm trying to recall what the issue was :) I ran into it once when I was playing with some various caching settings. And now I forget the cause and the solution ... [13:41:52] Helpful, right? :) [13:42:43] Hmm .. lotta warnings there [13:43:13] Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in /srv/ubuntu-in/ubuntu-in.org/config/index.php on line 447 [13:43:13] Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in /srv/ubuntu-in/ubuntu-in.org/includes/Title.php on line 1800 [13:43:15] No session.save_path, undefined offset, memory limit, no object caching [13:43:40] Hmm that's not really relevant [13:43:49] Those undefined offsets [13:44:04] RoanKattouw: what's the offset error about? [13:44:15] $n = intval( $m[1] * (1024*1024) ); [13:44:54] Makes sense why that would cause probs, as I don't see $m getting set anywhere O.o [13:45:09] by the way, will a 1.5.8 database work with the 1.11.0 install? [13:45:09] G0SUB: Can you try raising php's memory limit? [13:45:16] amidaniel: to how much? [13:45:27] G0SUB: 50-60MB ? [13:45:31] amidaniel: OK [13:45:32] Just for the period of the install [13:47:29] amidaniel $m is set by preg_match [13:47:51] 447gg [13:47:56] Woops .. wrong window :) [13:48:16] Ah, indeed [13:48:34] So it's unset because there were <2 matches .. kk [13:48:45] amidaniel: I set it to 50M, but it still shows 32 MB [13:49:02] Oh? Hmm ... [13:49:50] Well, something weird's going on there [13:50:11] amidaniel: the installer may try to set the memory limit - as does LocalSettings.php per default [13:50:25] (though i thought the default for that is 20 mb) [13:50:39] hm... that should be changed to only *raise* the limit, never lower it. [13:50:42] Duesentrieb: Yes, it tries to set it to 20M. For some reason it thinks he's allowing 32, and it thinks that's less than 20 :D [13:51:09] amidaniel: the warning about "if this is not enough" will always show, no matter what you set it to. [13:51:10] preg_match( '/^([0-9]+)[Mm]$/', trim( $memlimit ), $m ) is not picking up any matches [13:52:18] Hmm .. well, it seems unrelated, but just the fact that it's another odd thing going on intrigues me :) [13:54:05] any fixes? [13:54:34] i raised the limit to 50M now [13:54:41] G0SUB: since we have no clue what's going on: no. [13:54:46] I'm stumped. Let me go have a smoke and think about it :) [13:55:02] G0SUB: perhaps go into config/index.php, and enable error reporting there. [13:55:09] Duesentrieb: OK [13:55:27] error_reporting(E_ALL); [13:55:27] ini_set("display_errors", 1); [13:55:38] also $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; [13:55:45] though i'm not sure if that has an effect in teh installer [13:55:58] Duesentrieb: The error is being trapped by the installer though, that won't do anything [13:56:00] and make sure you don't set the stuff to easly, so it doesn't get overwritten [13:56:12] however, i donÄt know the installer code, so i can 't tell you where [13:56:19] 03nikerabbit * r28050 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: * Some more English names for missing entries [13:56:36] amidaniel: trapped? how? why? if it's trapped, it should be reported, no? [13:56:50] amidaniel: also, the point is to make warnings/notices visible [13:57:34] Duesentrieb: Yeah, the installer spits out the Notice and the Fatal error .. but all the errors are handled by the installer. error_reporting would only make a difference if the error was uncaught [13:57:46] no change [13:57:56] damn [13:58:09] G0SUB preg_match doesn't seem to work, do you have the right PHP extensions for it? Lemme check the PHP docs [13:58:14] Does the installer use the profiler or anything? [13:58:53] G0SUB can you link to your phpinfo ? [13:59:00] RoanKattouw: sure [13:59:22] RoanKattouw: If he's running 1.5 already, I'd have to think preg_match must work. [14:00:36] Hmm, this code is kinda weird [14:00:44] ($memlimit == "32M" in this case) [14:00:45] $n = intval( $memlimit ); [14:00:47] if( preg_match( '/^([0-9]+)[Mm]$/', trim( $memlimit ), $m ) ) { [14:00:49] $n = intval( $m[1] * (1024*1024) ); [14:01:02] RoanKattouw: Agreed :) [14:01:24] http://ubuntu-in.org/phpinfo.php [14:01:42] preg_match returns 1 but doesn't find any matches apparently ... [14:02:02] o_O [14:02:37] By the looks of that phpinfo file, PHP's PRCE module isn't enabled [14:02:44] http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pcre.php [14:02:55] I see on www.mediawiki.org that Extension:Nuke is on Wikimedia sites. WHo has access to it? (or is it really functioning?) [14:03:01] Ha, indeed. [14:03:13] stemd: Not on any Wikimedia sites I know of. [14:03:23] thx [14:03:23] umm [14:03:28] MediaWiki.org anyone? [14:03:35] G0SUB what does php --version say? [14:03:43] Special:Nuke is (or at least was) enabled there the last time I checked [14:03:46] Jack_Phoenix: Haha .. I'll be damned :D [14:04:01] stemd: So, yeah, it's enabled on mediawiki.org [14:04:04] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Nuke - very fun tool indeed ;-) [14:04:08] I *think* that's the only place though [14:04:11] MW.org and metawiki IIRC [14:04:28] not sure, might have to recheck Wikimedia's commonsettings once again [14:04:41] yup (I'm just localizing it now, but how to access it?) [14:04:55] PHP 5.1.4-1.dotdeb.1 (cli) (built: May 4 2006 10:51:31) [14:05:00] Yeah, meta's got it too [14:05:07] could be nice to have it against vandals [14:05:14] G0SUB try upgrading to the latest PHP version [14:05:17] 5.2.4 I believe [14:05:17] stemd: File a bug [14:05:21] aha, LocalSettings.php [14:05:32] ok, thx [14:05:59] Oh, 5.2.5 even [14:06:43] 5.2.4 works for me, FWIW [14:06:55] *AmiDaniel_away will bbiab [14:09:23] RoanKattouw: If you check the page now, you will see the original error (MW 1.5.8) [14:09:31] RoanKattouw: ubuntu-in.org [14:09:56] Version 1.5.8 ? [14:10:02] yeah [14:10:07] What's on OutputPage.php:543 ? [14:10:47] $wgTitle->getPrefixedText() . "\n"; [14:17:07] WHAT THE HELL [14:17:14] $wgTitle is not an object?!? [14:17:57] That's *very* weord [14:17:59] wierd [14:18:13] Anyway G0SUB you should probably upgrade your PHP and make sure it has the PRCE module this time [14:19:34] RoanKattouw: $wgTitle may not be an object if there's no "global $wgTitle" [14:20:16] True [14:20:32] But how did 1.5.8 ever get released if $wgTitle wasn't global'd ?!? [14:20:37] I just don't believe that [14:24:19] 03catrope * r28051 10/trunk/phase3/ (14 files in 3 dirs): APIEDIT BRANCH MERGE: Adding apiedit modules: action={block,changerights,delete,move,protect,rollback,unblock,undelete} and list={blocks,deletedrevs}. $wgEnableWriteAPI must be explicitly set to enable these modules. [14:27:42] RoanKattouw: API edit ready now? [14:27:49] Yep [14:27:56] Except action=edit xD [14:28:02] That's VodaFone's turf [14:28:17] And upload with user registration [14:28:39] Yes [14:28:59] Although I don't know whether user registration is such a good idea [14:36:44] 03catrope * r28052 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (8 files): Oops, requestWriteMode() is in ApiMain, not ApiBase [14:42:50] Hi, friends. I have an idea and I can't understand whether I can use MediaWiki to realize the idea. Whether someone can help me to find whether I can use WikiMedia to realize my idea? The idea is that the site will consist of 2 parts: first definitely can be realized using MediaWiki - it is categorized articles about food/receipts/cooking tips. The second part of the site is about food... [14:42:51] ...ingredients and about dishes. I need it well categorized, and then I need the ability to apply attributes (defined by myself) to each ingredient. Then I need the ability to link to ingredients for each dish, and then I need abilities to: 1) show links to ingredients on each dish-page 2) search for dishes by ingredients. In other words, I need to apply something like attributes to pages,... [14:42:53] ...and then to use "include" on other pages based on attributes values. Whether WikiMedia gives me the ability to make it fast, flexible and extendible? Thanks in advance. [14:43:52] 03catrope * r28053 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (5 files): Oops, forgot a few. [14:44:47] 03catrope * r28054 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: Changing error code to prevent confusion with wfReadOnly() == true [14:45:47] 03catrope * r28055 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiRollback.php: I'm clearly not fully awake [14:47:24] Hi. somebody here can talk? [14:47:39] Anton sure, lemme just read what you said [14:47:46] thanks you [14:48:09] !dpl | Anton [14:48:09] Anton: The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [14:48:23] hi. is it possible to have text wrapping around an image in the middle of a paragraph ? [14:48:46] ThomasV what do you mean? Like "text[IMAGE]text" ? [14:49:14] Anyone know of any IRC bots that checks the "Recent changes" page and posts changes to an IRC channel? [14:49:24] I mean the image must be right aligned [14:49:39] 03shinjiman * r28056 10/trunk/ (9 files in 9 dirs): [14:49:39] * Wu translations [14:49:39] Provided by Wtzdj [14:49:57] ThomasV [[Image:Myimage.jpg|right]] [14:50:42] RoanKattouw: http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Conte_de_l%E2%80%99Archer_-_p031.jpg [14:50:58] I want it to be like in the scan on the right [14:51:29] I want to avoid creating a new paragraph [14:52:29] mwbot, thanks, reading now. [14:52:29] ThomasV I edited the page and removed the
              , that should help [14:53:04] RoanKattouw: no [14:53:23] well, it does help a bit :-) [14:53:30] It removes the blank line [14:53:35] but it does not solve the problem [14:53:58] You mean the line that has only "non moins" on it? [14:54:24] RoanKattouw: I want one paragraph. like on the right. [14:54:41] the inserted image breaks the text into two paragraphs [14:54:47] Try inserting the [[Image:]] above the start of the paragraph, i.e. above "Au moment où ..." [14:55:23] sure, but that will not be in the middle of a paragraph, like in my question [14:55:43] Roan, DPL creates list - but whether it can be based on user-difined attributes attached to pages? [14:56:18] Anton it should be [14:56:32] I mean I can't find information about how to define metadata for pages. Can you give me some link? [14:56:35] The example lists countries by number of inhabitants, right? [14:56:47] Anton no, sorry, I have very little experience with DPL [14:56:51] ok - sorry, I have to read it carefully first. [14:57:12] mwbot - what do you think of my last question to Roan? [14:57:33] mwbot is a bot [14:57:41] It doesn't "think" anything [14:58:10] It only linked you because I told it to: [14:58:13] !dpl | Anton [14:58:13] Anton: The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [14:59:23] Anyway, I gotta go now [14:59:24] Bye folks [15:01:17] who knows how can I define metadata in wikipage? [15:01:22] some attributes with values? [15:05:06] 03vasilievvv * r28057 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (9 files): [15:05:06] API: [15:05:06] * Hide edit modules from help if $wgEnableWriteAPI is disabled [15:05:06] * Fix help formatting on UsageException [15:43:30] What is difference between DPL and SemanticWiki? [15:50:57] Hello guys, I have one question, I'd love to get a hint in which manual section to look for it - is it possible to hide revision history from all anonymous users? [15:58:06] Anybody can help me with metadata in Wiki? [15:58:27] Bartek, you could check if he's logged in when action=history [15:58:37] but you need to patch core [15:58:50] and there're still gaps, like Special:export [15:59:28] Platonides:: I see.. seems like the Oversight extension will be the best choice [16:00:07] especially that I'm not good at coding such complex apps :) [16:02:09] Platonides:: thank you. [16:08:55] np [16:17:43] 03midom * r28058 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUnusedimages.php: mark unused images as expensive, and fix queries to be cacheable [16:19:06] 03(mod) BiDi problem at History/Diffs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12079 (10gangleri) [17:10:29] hi good evening....i've a problem on a setup of mediawiki.I've already check the faq and google but I can't find a solution [17:11:04] what does it mean : Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfProfileIn() in /home/mhd-01/www.xxxxxxxxxx.it/htdocs/wiki/media/includes/WebStart.php on line 70 [17:15:51] any ideas? [17:23:14] Flash83: no, sorry. what MW version, what versionio of Apache/PHP? [17:27:04] PHP Version 5.2.4 [17:32:52] which is fine. were you able to run the initial config? [17:35:54] yes [17:36:05] and arrive at the end and say that is correct [17:36:12] in green text [17:37:33] ok did you change the localsettings.php location? verify write permissions, too, as a first step. [17:38:04] sure i set 444 [17:39:16] what version of MediaWiki are you running? [17:39:25] Doesn't permission 444 *not* include read permission? [17:40:04] I take it back 444 is -r--r--r-- [17:40:13] mediawiki-1.11.0.tar [17:40:34] which permission I've to set? [17:40:48] you will also need write permission somewhere... [17:41:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki [17:42:54] claims you need 755 at least for the config folder. [17:43:19] now i've already install so I've to delete che config dir [17:47:50] :( [17:47:52] does the error show when you request any page from MediaWiki? [17:48:01] the index page [17:49:41] something like www.xxxxxxxxxx.it/wiki/media/ ? [17:51:29] yes [17:51:30] the main [17:51:54] can you put there a file with, say, and try running that? [17:58:15] hi [17:59:01] I would like to help translate lang-files, and I have finished zh-TW (based on zh-hant,) what should I do next? [18:00:01] BobChao: probably ask siebrand or Nikerabbit in #mediawiki-i18n [18:00:13] BrokenArrow: Thanks :) [18:30:49] hello [18:31:14] how do I use .htaccess for referring subdomains to categories of MW? [18:31:28] in example: [18:31:51] sub.domain.com to www.domain.com/index.php?title=Category:Sub [18:32:01] RewriteEngine On [18:32:01] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www.aanbiedingen.de [18:32:01] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^([^.]+).aanbiedingen.de [18:32:01] RewriteRule ^/$ /index.php?title=%1 [R] [18:32:06] this aint working [18:33:34] At least using RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^sub.domain.com$ and RewriteRule ^/$ /?title=Category:Sub would work. [18:33:35] qweqwdqw: that rewrite is for www.domain.com/index.php?title=Something_Special >> www.domain.com/Something_Special [18:39:17] hmm [18:40:29] ugh [18:40:58] you should really reconsider do you want to have wiki in domain root [18:41:23] I have the Wiki in the root [18:41:34] and want to refer categories to subdomains [18:41:57] somehow none on the rewrite tricks work. [18:42:07] only the rewrite rules for nice URL works [18:42:49] wiki in the root is bad practise :/ [18:44:19] Hello [18:44:32] uga [18:45:06] why bad practice? [18:45:20] all of my wikis are in the root [18:46:56] why should I put my wiki in a directory [18:49:01] qweqwdqw: you need exceptions to be able to serve the required "real" files (css, js, images, etc). in practice, this is a maintenance problem. in theory, this is namespace pollution. [18:49:06] so, it's bad practice. [18:49:45] aha.. [18:49:47] thanx [18:50:15] fortunately no problems with that yet [18:51:45] as soon as you install an extension that comes with special css/js files, you will have a problem. you can make life easier by making a rewrite condition that excludes all exiting files and directories - but then you'll have a problem when you try to create a page called FAQ, for example. [18:52:02] problems also arise when new entry points are added - like api.php [18:52:53] well I know that problem [18:53:03] I always use the full url for CSS and JS [18:53:23] I got it working [18:53:28] the URL rewrite [18:53:47] yes, it's possible. but as soon as something changes, you are screwed. [18:54:05] well... [18:54:08] as i said: a pain to maintain. and conceptually, you got yourself a polluted namespace. [18:54:25] hmm... [18:55:00] depends on the complexity of your Wiki.. [18:55:35] I have several Wikis in the root and I did not find any problems in the namespace [18:55:39] Hello [18:56:47] has the issue from test.wiki been addressed or shall I file a bug? [18:59:07] qweqwdqw: namespace pollution refers to a conceptual problem - and uri prefix can be viewed to define a namespace for resources (in a semantic web context). if you use the root of your domain directly, you have "article" and "files" mixed up in there. having a directory for each provides clean namespaces for "files" and "articles". but this is mainly theoretical, untill you try to use semantic web stuff with your wiki. [19:00:04] Isee [19:00:32] I get it now [19:01:11] the practicaql problems areise from thise conceptual confusion. the practical side can be overcome with hacks and exceptions, sore. [19:01:25] but we still recommed against it :) [19:01:59] nice... [19:02:14] I like the conceptual perspective [19:02:50] you made a lot of extensions to my recognition, Duesentrieb [19:03:28] hm... people keep telling me that - though there are several people who made a lot more extensions than me :) [19:05:41] are you a full time MW developer? [19:06:50] hell no :) [19:06:57] a full-free-time MW developer, probably :) [19:07:09] hehe [19:07:12] that, some times. but not at the moment [19:07:23] writing my major thesis [19:07:27] hehe [19:07:32] 100 pgs??? [19:07:33] hanging out on irc for purposes of procrastination [19:07:34] I am finishing my thesis this week [19:07:43] presentation Friday [19:07:47] cool - what's it about? [19:08:13] it was so boring that I built 10 website within the last 1/2 year [19:08:33] what's the policy on obsolete extensions in the code repo? They could be deleted, as they are being branched. [19:08:38] heh... that's why i write about something exciting - wikipedia :) [19:08:38] contract management within the Procurement function [19:09:00] nice...I wish I had such a topic [19:09:16] i made it up and found a prof who was interested :) [19:09:36] nice..I found out too late, that MW was such a nice tool [19:09:43] Please, when I use image in other resolution than original it write this error: http://wikiserialy.uvadi.cz/index.php/%C5%A0ablona:Fairuse. Could you help me? [19:10:04] after my presentation I am going to talk with a prof about Wiki [19:10:23] my college friend did one on movies and arabs b4 and after 9/11 [19:10:44] Sevela_p: "SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid is 4539 is not allowed to access /home/www/uvadi.cz/subdomains/wikiserialy/images/thumb/Red_copyright.png owned by uid 33" [19:11:05] !safemode | Sevela_p [19:11:05] Sevela_p: safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [19:11:13] *qsheets ,being in high school, did a 5 pg one on social networking [19:11:19] wikis are not yet used at Universities in the Netherlands [19:11:50] there's an internal one at my department. not mediawiki though. it sucks pretty badly [19:12:03] i don't write about wiki software or culture anyway. [19:12:09] i do text mining on wikipedia [19:12:11] 03siebrand * r28060 10/trunk/extensions/DynamicPageList2/OBSOLETE: OBSOLETE (per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList) [19:12:12] where are you doing your project [19:12:29] uni leipzig, asv (=nlp) department [19:12:42] isee.. [19:12:49] this stuff: http://brightbyte.de/page/WikiWord [19:12:51] what is text mining [19:12:58] ask wikipedia :) [19:13:35] nice [19:13:42] though... i don't do *real* text mining. not real data mining either. something in between. you could call it hypertext-m,ining or wikitext-mining. or just WikiMining, which i prefer :) [19:13:46] so, I must upload image in resolution, whitch I need? [19:13:46] I like that subject [19:14:12] it is not good for SPAMrs though [19:14:33] if the ultimate textmining algorithm exists.... [19:14:36] Sevela_p: if you can't get thumbnailing to work, yes... but the error sounds like you did not upload that imaghe at all, but it was somehow imported/copied to that place, and has the wrong owner set. could that be? [19:14:46] Sevela_p: have you tried with a freshly uploaded file? [19:15:03] Sevela_p: but with safe mode on, you will always have problems. talk to your hosting people about disabling it [19:15:03] than the internet will be automatic content [19:15:43] qweqwdqw: that won't work, because if you mine stuff generated by mining, error accumulates [19:16:10] ok [19:16:26] well....don't get to good at it anyways :) [19:16:58] Duesentrieb:Thanks, so I try to contact them to disable safe mode. [19:17:42] Sevela_p: tell them it's officialy deprecated, and will be removed soon - they have to thing about alternatives anyway. also, give them the exact error, and ask them how the mismatch of user ids happens. it looks curious. [19:17:57] got to go...good luck with your thesis Duesntrieb [19:18:02] thanks :) [19:18:04] have fun [19:18:09] *Duesentrieb goes back to writing his prototype [19:18:42] 03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 (10crochet.david) [19:23:15] 03(FIXED) Namespace "Comentarios" for es.wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12051 +comment (10jeluf) [19:36:17] 03siebrand * r28061 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php: Change documentation URL. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection is not running on en.wikinews.org [19:36:36] 03(FIXED) Change in Malayalam Wiktionary {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11093 +comment (10jeluf) [19:37:50] 03siebrand * r28062 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php: [19:37:50] Fix my previous commit message with a trailing whitespace removal: [19:37:50] Change documentation URL. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList is not running on en.wikinews.org [19:38:34] re [19:40:04] 03(NEW) change in output for MediaWiki:1movedto2 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12183 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (c.stafford) [19:42:07] hello [19:43:33] hi Nikerabbit [19:45:15] Nikerabbit: onko jotain mitä pitäisi vääntää kotimaiselle kielelle? [19:45:44] hmm [19:46:52] notagerbil: hi kolli, probably topic of #mediawiki-i18n :) [19:47:42] :) [19:47:49] what's the name of the extension that allows you to have and [19:48:18] MessedRawker: they are in mediawiki [19:48:23] Nikerabbit: what is that? [19:50:39] you mean they're built in? [19:51:12] I should think so. [19:51:28] see the mediawiki.org help page. That is probably best source. [19:51:36] hardwired in the parser, yes [19:52:26] MessedRawker: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [19:53:43] specifically: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Control_template_inclusion [19:55:21] which was completely wrong until yesterday :) [19:55:34] How can I get the text of a page from the api? Just the text, nothing else :) [19:57:22] 03(FIXED) Change in Bengali Wikipedia {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11111 +comment (10jeluf) [20:05:20] byez [20:31:08] Is there a way to re-generate the thumbnails for uploaded pictures? [20:32:16] sure: delete them [20:32:22] they are regenerated on demand [20:32:42] Hmmh. [20:33:00] Oh. Well, then there's something wrong with the setup now, I suppose, as they're not.. [20:33:04] Thanks anyway. [20:35:10] !debug | ZeiP [20:35:10] ZeiP: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [20:35:31] Already found it, thanks. [20:46:26] 03siebrand * r28063 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesZh_tw.php): [20:46:26] Update zh-tw [20:46:26] Submitted by: Bob Chao [20:48:41] how long do locks like this last? [20:49:40] locks like what? [20:50:59] I guess it's not global [20:51:06] it was a lock while slaves sync'd with master [20:54:29] cj: that would be for #wikimedia-tech :) anyway, the lock happens when lag gets > 30 sec. i would guess it should go away in < 60 sec, unless something is seriously wrong. usually, it should be much faster than that [20:54:42] but that's just a guess, i'm not a server admin. [20:55:02] RoanKattouw was on for like 60 seconds :( [20:55:07] i need to talk to him [21:28:31] 03siebrand * r28064 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/ (DynamicPageList.i18n.php DynamicPageList.php): [21:28:31] * Rename messages to avoid conflicts with DynamicPageList/DynamicPageList2 [21:28:31] * Add i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin) [21:28:31] * Fix indentation [21:30:45] 03siebrand * r28065 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for extension intersection [21:33:34] 03siebrand * r28066 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.i18n.php: Fix copy/paste typo [21:34:19] 03downchuck * r28067 10/branches/mlmw/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Some language filtering / preferences [21:42:20] 03siebrand * r28068 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Ignore ChemFunctions_SearchExplanation [22:16:06] does anyone know anything about how class="abbr" came to be on enwiki [22:16:10] ? [22:16:22] I can't find it in common.css [22:16:40] MediaWiki:Common.css on the wiki [22:17:59] I looked, but couldn't see it. (maybe I just missed it, I'm no expert on css) [22:18:20] is this your own wiki that you're trying to customize? [22:18:32] no, this is English Wikipedia [22:18:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:18:58] you might also want to check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css [22:19:14] the class has become a little contraversial all of a sudden, I was just wondering if anyone had any background on it [22:20:20] Physchim62, http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css?101 [22:20:29] abbr, acronym, .explain { [22:20:29] border-bottom: 1px dotted black; [22:20:29] color: black; [22:20:29] background: none; [22:20:29] cursor: help; [22:20:30] } [22:20:49] but it's not a class, but an element [22:23:07] hmm, interesting! it is used as and appears as blue (with dotted bottom border) [22:54:53] hi all :) [22:55:06] some available for a silly question? [22:55:07] :) [22:55:16] Just ask :) [22:55:25] mediawiki on slack12 [22:55:33] is getting me crazy :) [22:55:39] email php function [22:55:48] sends emails as apache@localhost [22:55:50] :) [22:56:10] i've tryed to modify php usermailer code by myself without success [22:56:17] did you change it in LocalSettings.php? [22:56:23] yes [22:56:28] weird [22:56:28] wmSMTP false [22:56:34] *ST47 shrugs [22:56:36] and the sender [22:56:58] maillog show me that try to send like apache@localahost [22:57:13] dunno where modify the code [22:57:56] i found a thread on some forum about it [22:58:01] but without solution [22:58:08] someone having the same problem [23:00:06] 03siebrand * r28069 10/trunk/phase3/ (22 files in 3 dirs): [23:00:06] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [23:00:06] * an, ar, br, ca, crh-cyrl, crh-latn, cs, dum (new), fi, fr, hr, it, kn, la, myv, nl, no, qu, sdc, wuu [23:00:06] * Adding 'dum' to interface langauges [23:00:06] * Fixing 'crh-cyrl' in interface languages [23:00:07] * Update RELEASE-NOTES [23:00:21] in my LocalSettings i have [23:00:30] $wgEnableEmail = true; [23:00:30] $wgEnableUserEmail = true; [23:00:30] $wgEmergencyContact = "wiki@domain.org"; [23:00:47] $wgPasswordSender = "wiki@domain.org"; [23:00:52] in include/Default [23:01:11] wgSTMP false (i want php send emails) [23:04:11] Why is the GFDL default on MW installer GFDL 1.2, while Wikipedia uses GFDL any version? [23:09:44] wikipedia is not mediawiki [23:11:09] ehm... [23:11:16] no idea on php mail function malfunctioning? [23:11:25] or some on how configure a From address? [23:13:16] 03(NEW) dumpBackup.php stderr sent to stdout - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12184 minor; low; MediaWiki: Database; (jidanni) [23:14:43] i guess it's a no :) [23:19:28] 03siebrand * r28070 10/trunk/extensions/ (30 files in 30 dirs): [23:19:28] Localisation updates from Betawiki. [23:19:28] * Fixes and additions to 30 extensions for ar, bg, br, el, grc, hr, it, kn, nl, pt [23:27:03] 03siebrand * r28071 10/trunk/extensions/FindSpam/ (FindSpam.i18n.php FindSpam.php FindSpam_body.php): [23:27:03] * Adding i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin) [23:27:03] * EOL whitespace and indentation fixes [23:29:06] 03siebrand * r28072 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for FindSpam