[00:14:49] 03amidaniel * r28073 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): * (bug 12178) Fix wpReason parameter to action=delete, again. [00:15:22] 03(FIXED) wpReason broken in Article.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12178 +comment (10cannon.danielc) [00:25:05] 03amidaniel * r28074 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: * Name wpDeleteReasonListRow and wpDeleteReasonRow to allow CSS manipulation. [00:42:36] 03(mod) Install extension on all Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9396 (10jasonspiro) [00:49:33] 04(REOPENED) Generate automatic edit summaries for addition of short bits of text to pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9375 +comment (10jasonspiro) [00:54:18] 03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769 +comment (10matthew.flaschen) [01:10:16] could somebody either point me to some source or explain me differences between {{MediaWiki:Foo}} and {{int:Foo}}, please? heard couple stories of which some go against each other [01:17:44] Danny_B: {{MediaWiki:Foo}} transcludes [[MediaWiki:Foo]] (it's just a {{namespace:foo}} format). {{int:foo}} does the same thing, but internationalizes it; so if the user language is French, it shows the French message. [01:18:13] Well, it internationalizes by wiki language; I'm not entirely sure about by user language, so you'd need to try it. [01:18:56] i heard in a nutshell this - int takes php default while mediawiki takes possibly overriden message [01:19:26] We'd need to try it, and improve the documentation on [[m:Help:Magic words]]. [01:19:41] youp youp [01:29:57] 03shizhao * r28075 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: [01:32:41] I'm having a problem with a template. Here is the line with a named parameter: MFI-RM-{{{co}}} [01:32:59] It's part of a customized tag....is that going to cause problems? [01:34:07] Logan_Andrews: I think parser tags are parsed before template variables, so the parser will get the literal plaintext "{{{co}}}" even if you give it a value in a template. [01:34:28] dang [01:35:38] ok realted (sorta) question... [01:35:47] http://wiki.maquis.com/w/Cell:MFS_Charleston_Harbor [01:35:54] http://wiki.maquis.com/w/Cell:MFS_Trinity [01:36:11] the latter has the template applied....the top and side are altered [01:36:18] how can I prevent that? [01:39:15] Logan_Andrews: I can't see the wiki code (I have to register to view it, and I need approval to register), so I don't know. Check that you didn't forget to close a
tag or something, or install HTML Tidy (which fixes that kind of problem automatically). [01:39:54] Where can I post the code? I'll copy and paste it [01:40:04] http://rafb.net/paste/ [01:42:07] Template code: http://rafb.net/p/wQPdmJ35.html [01:43:36] that is missing a LOT of ending tags... [01:43:47] 03shinjiman * r28076 10/trunk/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/README: adding download method via SVN for GeSHi [01:44:55] So I need to make sure everything has an ending tag? We've not really bothered with them a lot because it works [01:45:12] well, you need the
at least, that's what's breaking the page [01:45:58] but you should throw in the and s in there as well, its good practise [01:46:04] that, and you're missing a |} [01:46:04] Do you see any reason to keep it? I'm basically adapting a stand alone page that is being the model for the template? [01:46:21] er, nvm, I can't read [01:47:03] that's up to you... I can't say much about your wiki considering I don't know much about it [01:48:35] Does anyone know if free-reading.net has an IRC #? [01:50:21] http://rafb.net/p/NupsgK17.html [01:50:40] modified template....problem on applied cell page is still the same [01:52:11] still missing an , as well as some issues with your second table's first cell, but that shouldn't be breaking anything [01:53:36] ok what's the problem with the 2nd table 1st cell? [01:55:39] um, semicolon doesn't need to be there [01:55:55] and you don't need the div before align [02:05:28] I think I did it....there must have been some code further down that was breaking it on the chapter page itself [02:05:38] Skizzerz: thanks for your help [02:05:47] np [02:21:55] on a personal wiki, i had a vandal who i blocked permanently, including blocking account creation; however, from the recentchanges table, it appears the user was able to create an account and edit; is this possible? [02:22:07] mediawiki version 1.11 [02:23:05] *Messedrocker frowns to see no names in [[Special:ConfirmAccounts]] [02:26:15] MZMcBride: yes, if they logged out and then created an account [02:26:36] that's why account creation blocks are mainly pointless for logged-in users =/ [02:26:46] what? [02:27:00] wait, did you block a username or an IP? [02:27:06] a username [02:27:23] but you're telling me that an account creation block can only work if the user is logged out? [02:27:28] ok, so if that user logged out, they lose the account creation restriction (at least from my personal experience they do) [02:27:58] i thought the account creation block was based on the rc_ip field [02:28:20] I don't know what it's based off of, but I'm having that same problem on another wiki [02:28:43] the user made at least 5 accounts, even though all the blocks had "block account creation" checked [02:29:05] yeah, that's what i'm experiencing as well [02:29:46] so I'm assuming that if you check that while blocking a username, it doesn't prevent that user's IP from creating accounts... of course, I haven't looked at the code base to confirm this yet [02:30:28] that would make the option pretty pointless, wouldn't it? [02:30:39] yes, it would [02:31:32] *Skizzerz goes to check the code [02:36:47] MZMcBride: Looking at SpecialUserlogin.php, it does appear to be the case that if you account creation block a username, they can log out to evade it [02:37:06] that seems like a pretty major bug [02:37:17] it's right in the comments... [02:37:38] which leads me to wonder why they don't change it since they know about it [02:39:06] MZMcBride: I pasted the function here: http://rafb.net/p/TkbLdc77.html , with comments in-tact [02:39:17] yeah, i just found it [02:40:11] *Skizzerz debates opening a bug to modify the functionality of that... [02:40:38] it should be fixed [02:40:44] else, the option is worthless [02:40:55] or at least entirely misleading [02:41:00] yeah [02:41:15] you going to file? [02:41:57] uh, sure [02:42:16] (just don't want duplicate bugs) :) [02:42:46] yeah [02:42:52] it'd be an enhancement, right? [02:43:24] i'd say normal [02:43:49] not really an enhancement to get the software to do what it says it's doing [02:43:50] k [02:48:51] 03(NEW) Change "block account creation" functionality when blocking usernames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12185 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (skizzerz) [02:49:25] very nice, thanks :) [02:49:57] had to figure out how to re-word that last sentence to avoid a redundant Therefore, opening the sentence :P [02:50:14] >_> [02:50:27] *Skizzerz fails at grammar and it's/its [03:20:22] What file actually bulids the HTML code for display? [03:21:09] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php [03:22:03] ok where would it most likely be on my server [03:22:16] /includes/ [03:22:32] ah...kk [03:24:31] ok so much for figuring that out on my own....Anyone ever play around with the .firstHeading class? [03:24:46] what are you trying to do? [03:24:57] http://wiki.maquis.com/w/Cell:MFS_Trinity [03:25:19] The graphic below the title I'm trying to put in the title as a bkgd [03:25:42] But I can't figure out how to make the section wider [03:25:49] or taller as the case may be [03:26:13] =/ [03:26:37] you don't have all the body classes [03:27:18] ah, 1.6.6, that would explain that... [03:27:20] I looked in the source code and saw h1.firstHeading [03:27:26] what else do I need to affect? [03:27:35] http://pruebita.com/wiki/Main_Page [03:28:21] Logan_Andrews: you see the padding around the header? [03:28:58] lol, nice wiki :) [03:29:11] pruebita = a little test :) [03:29:18] :P [03:29:26] Yeah [03:29:29] i let the 'user' group have 'editinterface' access; bad idea [03:29:39] Logan_Andrews: would that work? [03:29:53] lol, better than letting * have userrights access I guess :P [03:29:55] I think so...won't know for sure till I try of course [03:30:13] it's simple CSS: .firstHeading {padding: 50px 0 50px 0} [03:30:31] should make the area taller for you [03:30:34] top, right, bottom , left? [03:31:03] yep, like a clock [03:31:10] kewl... [03:31:51] I don't do too bad for someone thrown into PHP, SQL, Wiki and CSS all at once...but I still don't understand it all [03:31:58] thanks for the help [03:32:10] no problem [03:34:36] Can I do a vertical text align in CSS? [03:35:08] vertical-align:middle or whatever [03:35:36] I know "text-align: center" ... I don't have to have text before vertical? [03:36:06] no, the property is vertical-align [03:36:31] kewl [03:37:31] does the padding interfeer with the text placement? [03:39:05] yeah it does..... [03:51:57] 03shinjiman * r28077 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageZh.php: fixing zh-TW array to merging with zh-Hant instead of zh-Hans [04:00:29] how do I disable the printing of the "Main Page" heading on mediawiki ? I think wikipedia has it disabled, but I couldnt find a way to do it (some hacks on the net, but I was hoping a clean way or option or some define like __NOTITLE__ or) [04:01:11] !csshideheader | Buzz_ [04:01:11] Buzz_ : To hide the header on the main page, you need to add this CSS to the wiki page [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]: "body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none; }". If your main page's title is not "Main Page", you'll need to change it accordingly (look at the class on the tag in the HTML source). [04:01:33] thanks [04:01:38] yep :) [04:02:42] aaah. that looks all lovely now [04:02:44] ;-) [04:07:21] What elements control the look of the tabs across the top? [04:07:52] p-cactions, iirc [04:08:40] ok in the source code I found p-cactions and then it also had portlets with it.... [04:09:05] but portlet class is also with p-personal [04:10:01] if I want to change the look of the tabs then I need to affect the p-cactions elements only, yes? [04:11:50] or do I do p-cactions.portlet.li? [04:12:09] portlet is not the tabs .. [04:12:21] It's the toolbox, navigation, etc., i believe [04:12:45] the tabs are in a portlet too [04:12:48] Oh, I guess the tabs are in portlet too. [04:12:58] BUt p-cactions should be all you're concerned with [04:29:11] scap time! [04:38:25] amidaniel: you're Article.php fix worked perfectly :) [04:42:01] 03(NEW) Chang in Benglali Wikisource {{SITENAME}} and Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12186 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (bellayet) [04:54:40] 03tstarling * r28078 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Bump translation table cache version, since new tables have been added. Generates fatal errors if not done. [04:58:11] MZMcBride: Glad to hear it :) Let me know the next time it breaks :P [04:58:21] will do :) [04:58:53] though i usually only notice after it's screwed up 200 of my deletion summaries :/ [04:59:13] Haha :) [04:59:24] anyne would like to help directly on my wiki [04:59:31] would like to catalog my city [04:59:43] using semantic mediawiki and maps [06:54:39] could someone enlighten me why only the last line produces a thumbnail on a page, http://pastebin.com/m3d5e7b6f [06:57:22] maybe there is no Coffee.png image uploaded? [06:57:32] argh. :D [06:57:32] (note the last is .jpg) [06:57:38] Splarka, thanks ;) [06:57:48] np [06:57:48] goddammit :) [07:24:41] hmm, moving articles is kind of weird. i move A to B, then MW actually just creates a redirect from B to A, so when i remove A, B has no content ... or have i done something wrong? [07:24:58] so what's going on with GFDL/creative commons compatibility? [07:26:14] pengo: thats what i wonder too [07:26:30] most exciting news i've heard in ages [07:26:44] and i only happened to stumble across it on slashdot [07:27:32] pengo: wikimedia, the free software foundation, and the creative commons are working a way to allow wikipedia to relicense all its content to cc-by-sa [07:28:47] how is that possible? is there a clause that allows us to change to later versions of the GFDL? [07:29:01] yes [07:29:13] "or any later version" [07:29:13] cool [07:29:16] and a later version of the GFDL may stipulate for switching to the CC-BY-SA [07:29:43] GFDL is dead. Long live GFDL. [07:30:03] makes you kind of wary about using the 'or any later version' clause on your work, doesn't it? [07:30:04] 03rotem * r28079 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update and fixes. [07:31:05] flyingparchment, I have no objection to my edits being relicensed to CC-BY-SA [07:31:15] all several thousand of them [07:31:22] no, i'm sure most people don't [07:31:41] but the point is, the FSF can basically relicense your work any way they want [07:31:48] flyingparchment: yeah. there's a reason Linux is GPL 2 and only 2. [07:32:32] i wish i could pay someone to write a wikimedia extension for me [07:32:42] but in this case it seems to be good thing [07:32:52] Messedrocker: me too. but first i'd need money [07:33:06] me too [07:33:16] micropledge.com ? [07:33:18] would $50 be a reasonable bounty for an extension? [07:33:45] Messedrocker: what kinda extension? [07:33:52] *Werdna ears perk up [07:33:57] hey werdna [07:34:17] don't get excited yet -- i don't have $50 [07:34:29] but basically i want at the right-side of each page a comments column [07:34:36] where there could be a comment section per article section [07:34:46] hello [07:35:18] hi [07:35:43] would anyone mind helping me a min? :D? [07:36:22] werdna, how doable would such a thing be? [07:36:35] well, you'd have to play with some skins. [07:37:06] what do you mean [07:38:31] *.* [07:39:14] well, the column doesn't exist there by itself. [07:40:01] so basically something would have to be coded into the skin itself, which i don't really have a problem with [08:19:03] '''At least the current revision of the source page must remain.''' [08:19:06] remain what?! [08:42:21] 03rotem * r28080 10/trunk/extensions/Makebot/Makebot.i18n.php: Fix. [08:45:50] 03rotem * r28081 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [08:52:38] 03rotem * r28082 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [08:57:32] 03shizhao * r28083 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: add kj [09:05:16] 03shizhao * r28084 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/templates/index.html.tmpl: fix link [09:09:22] 03shizhao * r28085 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: [09:15:36] re [09:18:42] <_wooz> lo [09:33:34] 03nikerabbit * r28086 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * It's not nice to throw sql errors with invalid input [09:53:04] 03nikerabbit * r28087 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: 1 PHP Strict Standards: Only variables should be assigned by reference in /var/www/w/includes/Skin.php on line 1506 [09:53:58] 03rotem * r28088 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Update. [10:28:32] there's a strong case here for a specialised native extension that does this job [10:30:22] indeed [10:30:23] Hi there [10:30:50] I am looking for a MediaWiki extension or wiki software for the purposes of software documentation that allows users to edit / add articles *for* specific software versions [10:30:53] is there such a thing? [10:31:07] would it be too much hassle to add code that would fall back to normal arrays if such extension weren't installed? [10:32:53] Sorry, don't quite understand that [10:33:06] was not directed for you [10:33:54] Sardukar: it's your wiki, you can decide how to name pages, anything more specialised and you aren't likely to find anything existing for it [10:35:14] I understand that, but that would involve making users read a whole bunch of guidelines and whatnot before making an edit which is a quite anti-wiki spirit [10:36:12] Sardukar: so... what do you have in mind? a form to fill in? [10:37:04] 03rotem * r28089 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fixes. [10:37:16] I suppose, version tracking of sub-pages (i.e. version tracking of sections), w/ ability to display all swversions of a section or to globally filter the wiki by a swversion [10:37:24] swversion being a 'version of the software' being documented [10:38:03] you can use categories to do that. but it has to be maintained manually [10:38:05] 03rotem * r28090 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fixes. [10:38:19] I see [10:38:19] for input forms, look into the simple forms extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_Forms [10:38:23] it'S not so simple, though [10:38:24] That might not be too bad, then [10:38:49] 03rotem * r28091 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [10:38:56] Is it possible to duplicate content to categories? [10:39:03] hm? [10:39:08] duplicate? [10:39:10] Oh, ignore that [10:39:20] I forgot the concept of a category momenteraly [10:39:32] it's just a bog-o-stuff :)# [10:39:52] you can also compose pages by including other pages (from any namespace) [10:40:24] could you explain that bit? that might be useful [10:40:40] have you used templates? [10:40:54] I haven't used anything yet except the install script [10:41:03] + have intermediate PHP knowledge [10:41:21] Sardukar: read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help%3ATemplates and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Embed_page [10:42:14] Sardukar: namespaces, categories and (template) inclusion are key features. learn about them first. [10:42:28] Ok [10:43:42] Thank you [11:22:16] hi guys just a quick one, is it possible to support xml-rpc on the import side so an IRC bot can read/write the server? or is there a better way of going about it? [12:15:38] 03shinjiman * r28093 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [12:15:38] * Update Chinese translations [12:15:38] * Update Cantonese translations [12:15:38] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [12:34:23] so the XML form of a document is actually a lot *more* memory-efficient than the libxml2 tree form [12:36:34] 03rotem * r28094 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryDeletedrevs.php: Users without the delete permission but with the deletedhistory one should not be allowed to access the content of deleted revisions. [12:36:50] and I've been calling XML an inefficient format... [12:37:38] 03raymond * r28095 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Add 'listbots' (introduced in r27704) to $specialPageAliases [12:39:25] 03rotem * r28096 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [12:39:41] 03rotem * r28097 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Fix. [12:40:41] 03raymond * r28098 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Updates German [12:41:39] Raymond_: is mergehistory missing from that list also? [12:42:19] Nikerabbit: hmm good point. [12:53:58] 03raymond * r28099 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesEn.php): Add 'mergeHistory' to $specialPageAliases too. [13:05:53] 03siebrand * r28100 10/trunk/extensions/FormatEmail/ (FormatEmail.i18n.php FormatEmail.php): [13:05:53] * Adding i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin) [13:05:53] * EOL whitespace and indentation fixes [13:07:43] 03rotem * r28101 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [13:07:48] Hey, anyone know of a good extention that will send mediawiki updates to an IRC channel? [13:08:09] hi people, can I configure mediawiki to accept changes only by logged users? [13:08:11] No but I wamt to do that [13:09:03] !rcbot | Jboucher [13:09:03] Jboucher: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:IRC_RC_Bot [13:09:12] Jboucher: Did you have any solution in mind? [13:09:12] 03siebrand * r28102 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for FormatEmail [13:09:38] Jboucher: and ignor the perl script, it's not needed. use netcat or socat, as explained [13:09:54] Thank you Very Much Duesentrieb [13:09:59] i appreacate the help [13:10:30] mike_jh: it's "nearly" build in. follow the white r... err, the link. [13:10:47] haha ;) [13:11:12] Andropov the answer to your question is $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [13:11:20] ha.. since no one else answered him :) [13:11:43] the long answer is here: [13:11:47] !access | Andropov [13:11:47] Andropov: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [13:12:04] Hmm, so MediaWiki supports notifications via UDP? [13:12:13] yes [13:12:15] Then you write a bot to recieve it and post to IRC? [13:12:17] Clever [13:12:23] thank you very much for all ;) [13:12:27] it's a hardwired, sucky hack. [13:12:40] I didn't know it existed [13:12:56] mike_jh: you don't even need to write anything. use netcat or socat to receive udp and pipe it into a simple irc client. [13:13:08] Ahh, yeah [13:13:10] that'S all there is to it [13:13:29] Well, my b0t has a TCP socket anyway [13:15:23] Can anyone recommend an 'administrators' guide to MediaWiki? [13:15:49] Type in the admin password, click the buttons, see what happens? [13:16:05] hah [13:21:45] Hello [13:31:04] 03gri6507 * r28103 10/trunk/extensions/Tooltip/Tooltip.php: v0.5 - numerous style improvements [13:38:13] How to forbide link prefixes usage in specified language? [13:42:20] Hello [13:44:26] Hello! I have a question about MediaWiki and login form! So I need that MediaWiki took logins not from MediaWiki database, but from external database, where login are already created! Can you tell me - which extension could help me or what I need to edit in some config script to? [13:44:42] !authplugin [13:44:42] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [13:44:47] ^see above [13:45:04] Thanks! But there only plugins for forums... [13:46:11] !ldap | Help_Needed [13:46:11] Help_Needed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [13:46:14] !help [13:46:14] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [13:54:11] VasilievVV: does this extension helps me to connect another MySQL database? [13:55:13] Help_Needed: you have another MySQL database with another format? [13:56:32] Not exactly format. There are different tables. [13:56:49] Help_Needed: auth-plugin is a general plugin interface. it can be used to autheticate to the user database of some forum, or against ldap, or against whatever you like. [13:57:10] for ldap, a plugin exists. also for phpbb and some others. [13:57:31] if you have some database with a custom structzure, you will have to write a plugin for it [13:58:19] Help_Needed: somehow, you have to tell mediawiki how to find the info it needs for login - this is what you do by writing an auth-plugin. [13:58:50] authplugins are really easy, took me like an hour to write a new one [13:59:06] account sharing should be simple enough [13:59:07] 03vasilievvv * r28104 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesRu.php: * Totally disable linkprefix for ru. [13:59:12] single login would be more tricky i guess [13:59:26] yeah, i didn't manage to make sso work [13:59:37] i think more than an authplugin is needed to check the cookie on every page view [13:59:58] Good for you, but I'm not really coder! :-( [14:00:22] Help_Needed: well, how do you expect mediawiki to magically be able to understand your user database? [14:00:27] someone has to write code for it... [14:00:31] Yeah! :-) [14:00:38] Funnu isn't it? : [14:00:50] i wonder why vmware server needs a license key when it's free [14:01:15] 'cause they can't get used to it [14:03:17] hi there [14:03:48] i have a question regarding categorys and namespaces: is it possible to have the same category in different namespaces? [14:04:16] what i need is "Category A" each in NS1 and NS2, but they must be treaten as separate categorys [14:04:18] category *is* a namespace [14:04:18] no, categories can only exist in the Category namespace [14:04:24] so categories are always in teh category namespace [14:04:26] ok. [14:04:36] beni_: however, you can make a naming convention: [14:04:53] use Category:Foo:X for the X category for namepsace Foo [14:04:58] Duesentrieb: something like "Category A (fooProject) already come to my mind [14:05:17] i like the multi-colon-thing [14:05:20] the problem with "Foo: CatA" is that sorting will be destroyed [14:05:35] you can use explicite sort keys. [14:05:48] ah, what does that do? [14:05:52] [[Category:Foo|]] on page X makes it shou under A, not X [14:05:54] err [14:05:59] [[Category:Foo|A]] [14:06:28] I have to put this in any article name, don't i? [14:06:38] or where do i put this in? [14:06:42] hm? [14:06:47] it's a categorization link [14:06:53] it goes on the page you want to categorize [14:06:54] 03(mod) Chang in Bengali (bn) Wikisource {{SITENAME}} and Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12186 summary (10bellayet) [14:07:19] but this implies, that if i have 100 articles under that category, i have 100 times this link? [14:07:40] yes... how else wopuld you put the articles into the category in teh first place? [14:07:59] Ok, this is an option i think. I think, with additional namespaces for the articles this should all be good separated. [14:09:02] thank you very much for that fast answer [14:10:07] speaking of namespaces. I'd like to remove the Talk: namespace, or at least render it unusable. the same with Portal:, User: and all the others except Special: and Category: and the default article namespace. any suggestions? are there any extensions that can do this, and where do I find them? (I'm using the very latest mediawiki version, so far unmodded, installed merely an hour ago) [14:13:17] jobjorn: put a namespace protection on it [14:14:32] e.g. $wgNamespaceProtection[ NS_TALK ] = array( ); [14:15:49] ah [14:15:53] 'thank you VasilievVV [14:19:50] jobjorn: use smth like $wgNamespaceProtection[ NS_MAIN ] = array( 'editlimited' ); . Than only users with "Editlimted: right will be able to edit these namespaces [14:21:07] sounds good. [14:22:42] what can I use other than "editlimited"? [14:26:58] Well, I've got a problem, and after searching the FAQ and the site about such an issue and after not finding anything, I figured someone here might be able to help. [14:28:05] I have a working MediaWiki installation on a server. I need to move said installation to another server. I packed up all the files and downloaded a backup of the database. Then, I put them up on the new server, configured the LocalSettings.php file and uploaded the database. [14:28:20] heh [14:28:26] oops, mischan [14:28:34] VasilievVV: is it these groups: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights#List_of_rights_and_groups that I can use with $wgNamespaceProtection? [14:28:58] Well, the problem is, with the new upload, it only displays a blank white page at the index. [14:29:21] It doesn't redirect to the main page or anything; it just sits at the root directory with a blank white page. [14:30:37] jobjorn: yes [14:31:30] e.g. $wgNamespaceProtection[ NS_MAIN ] = array( 'block' ); allow to edit these NS for users who can block [14:32:55] yo yo yo [14:34:11] brion-office: ? [14:35:17] its ho ho ho ..christmas is coming :) [14:35:54] Webs961: if you have a fresh mediawiki-install, you could always just try to install a new mediawiki installation using the old database? [14:36:42] That might work. Could it possibly have something to do with an older PHP install version (Eg. version 4.3.11 instead of 5.2.4)? [14:37:04] yes, I think the latest MediaWiki requires PHP 5 [14:37:08] Yes it does [14:37:10] I just read that [14:37:17] That's very frustrating. [14:37:44] Well, thanks for the help, heh. [14:37:56] *Webs961 tells himself to read the fine manual... [14:38:01] just install mediawiki 1.6.10 [14:38:08] http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.6.10.tar.gz?download [14:38:53] I've got some custom stuff that requires a newer version of mw (eg. a user account bridge). I'll just upgrade PHP [15:04:20] byez [15:09:31] Hello.. My mediawiki seems to have reset its user/password to root/nothing for mysql.. How do I change this? [15:11:41] that's the third report I've seen of that [15:11:48] that never used to happen did it? [15:11:50] TimStarling, Me? [15:11:56] yeah, you [15:12:11] you just have to delete the user MediaWiki created [15:12:12] I was very confused when I accessed it this morning oO [15:12:20] it's been creating user accounts with a different host to what was there before [15:12:35] it doesn't actually change the password, just creates a new one with a different password [15:12:37] Which user? The mysql user? [15:12:44] yes [15:12:58] I assume you mean the installer [15:13:04] Can I just change the password back? [15:13:09] No, the actual wiki doesnät work [15:13:11] you could [15:13:46] I've used the wiki extensively, and now it doesn't work anymore [15:14:38] fulhack: have you lookat at the user/password given in your LocalSettings.php? [15:14:49] Duesentrieb, Yes, they look fine. [15:15:06] then why do you say something has been "reset"? [15:15:29] can you log into mysql directly, using that user info? [15:15:36] Duesentrieb, When I try to access the wiki, it says it eants to log in as root w/ no password.. Those are NOT my settings. [15:15:42] let me check [15:15:55] it wants to log in as root? [15:16:00] yes [15:16:01] hm... maybe you have been hacked? [15:16:15] and some evil thing hooked into mediawiki tries to log in as root now? [15:16:30] haha, nah, I think it's something else. [15:16:35] assume stupidity not malice [15:16:36] Strange hack if that's it :P [15:16:50] not so much strange as unsuccessful. [15:17:10] TimStarling: if he has the right user/pw in localsettings, but gets an error about root not being able to log in... ewhat could it be? [15:17:14] wrong settings file? [15:17:23] settings defined twice? [15:17:29] sure, why not [15:17:34] Can I paste one line in here from mediawiki? [15:17:46] CIA-39 is broken, I think. Just made 3 commits that were not announced. [15:18:00] fulhack: yes [15:18:04] (Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) (localhost)) [15:18:18] That's what I get. and that my wiki "is having problems" [15:18:41] Anyone worked with parserfunctions in here? [15:18:57] Hm... wait... a minute. :O [15:19:01] so, *something* is telling the wiki to log in as root. perhaps search for "root" in all files? start with localsettings [15:19:21] Hm.. yeah, I guess that's a good start :) [15:19:39] Is it possible to check for a argument for a template is a numeral? [15:20:25] fulhack: search for "root" and 'root' with single and double quotes - otherwise you get too much cruft [15:20:40] it could even be a blank user [15:20:48] > mysql_connect('db1') [15:20:48] Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user: 'tstarling@66.230.200.234' (Using password: NO) in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.5/maintenance/eval.php(48) : eval()'d code on line 1 [15:21:07] mysql_connect('db1','') -> same [15:21:17] yea, but not root@ [15:21:26] siebrand I also made a large commit yesterday which wasn't announced, the one after was, though [15:21:33] It should be noted that it was a 300-file commit [15:21:50] it probably just takes the user from $USER, the environment variable [15:21:53] RoanKattouw: yep, I read the mail ;) [15:22:06] which is 'root' for a typical apache mod_php install [15:22:27] "read" == "wait 5 secs for agent to load, then delete it" in this case [15:24:08] TimStarling: err, whot? even after apache setuids? [15:24:43] setuid doesn't set the environment does it? [15:24:48] I am trying to make MediaWiki email all users when a new page is created and/or edited.. I found a thread that suggests that allows you to force every page to "watchable" from every user which would effectively enable this, but it seems to be for an older version.. any ideas on how to do this [15:27:57] Does mediawiki log errors? [15:28:49] fulhack not unless you tell it to [15:28:54] !debug | fulhack [15:28:54] fulhack: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [15:29:01] Cheers [15:31:48] svip http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Formatting try {{formatnum:}} [15:32:05] {{formatnum:some string}} will probably be 0, you should test in a sandbox though [15:32:41] Nah. [15:32:43] I haxed a way. [15:32:51] Can I rerun the configuration for LocalSettings.php? [15:34:49] fulhack editing it by hand is easier in most cases [15:34:53] What do you need to change? [15:35:24] RoanKattouw, The localsettings.php reflects the correct user settings for my mysql, but the wiki tries to use root/none. [15:36:01] You have the correct settings in LocalSettings? That's weird... What are the variable names? (like $wgSomething) [15:36:26] $wgDBuser [15:36:32] $wgDBpassword [15:36:50] Do you also have $wgDBtype = "mysql"; and $wgDBserver = "localhost"; ? [15:36:56] does the wiki use root if nothing else works? [15:37:02] yes, I do. [15:37:06] ^^ [15:37:07] and port, etc [15:37:18] Can you check that the user/pass you specified actually *works* ? [15:37:38] No. :) I assume it does.. Let me check. [15:40:12] Hm.. Seems like it doesnt.. That's bad.. I have root and all, bit I did NOT change that password. [15:40:28] Can I see what it's changed to somehow? Or is that one-way hashed? [15:40:41] fulhack MySQL passwords? Dunno [15:40:54] Hm.. I guess I'll just change it back.. [15:54:06] RoanKattouw, The password and user works.. [15:54:15] from commandline.. the wiki still wants root [15:56:33] *RoanKattouw slaps CIA-39 [15:56:38] *RoanKattouw kicks CIA-39 [15:56:38] ow [15:57:22] siebrand: I saw your 28109 and 110, CIA-39 didn't apparently [15:57:46] Nor did the mediawiki-cvs list [15:58:57] How can I delete a page? [15:58:59] brion-office: Who runs the CIA-39 bot? It's been skipping quite a lot of commits lately [15:59:03] RoanKattouw: *nod* looks like something's broken. [15:59:04] masterflex click "delete" above the page [15:59:17] RoanKattouw: see #cia [15:59:45] RoanKattouw, I don't have that option. [16:00:10] masterflex then you don't have permission to delete pages [16:00:35] RoanKattouw, alright [16:01:45] Funny, I can delete all the text on the page, but I can't get rid of the page itself. oh well. [16:02:49] masterflex: The idea is that someone can still undo a total blank: the previous versions will still exist in the history [16:03:03] When a page is deleted, all its history is hidden from normal users (only sysops can see it) [16:03:10] RoanKattouw, I though about that after I wrote the last comment. [16:06:26] hrmf [16:07:00] jb maybe there's a workaround: [16:07:18] Create a dummy user with a mailing list as e-mail address [16:07:23] And have it watch all pages [16:07:33] Then let your users subscribe to the mailing list [16:07:42] It still requires manual watching though :( [16:08:00] yeah thats the problem [16:08:02] Maybe there's an extension for it? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [16:08:06] cant really watch a page that hasn't been recreated [16:08:11] err been created [16:08:30] jb sure you can [16:08:33] hmm.. "Add a custom defined list of user to watch any new or edited page + send an email on any new talk page [16:08:36] AutoWatch [16:08:38] that might wormk [16:08:39] work [16:08:44] Voilà [16:09:42] thanks :) I will try this. [16:12:55] Hm.. the wiki won't even load with that ext. [16:13:08] ^^ [16:13:14] What version of MediaWiki do you have? [16:13:34] 1.11 [16:13:38] that might be why [16:13:52] ? [16:13:55] it says it was tested on 1.10 [16:13:59] Oh [16:13:59] but, I would think it would work on 1.11 too [16:14:06] Well if it breaks on 1.11 that sucks [16:14:14] Someone should look into that [16:14:18] let me try 1.10 sec [16:14:40] jb: Please leave a note on the talk page of Extension:AutoWatch that it breaks on 1.11 [16:15:01] hm, same thing on 1.10.. maybe its me :) [16:15:12] it makes the wiki display a blank page [16:15:29] jb check your web server's error log [16:16:00] there we go. [16:16:01] PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /www/fc-netops/wiki/extensions/AutoWatch.php on line 26 [16:18:35] jb :O [16:18:43] What's on line 25 & 26 of that file? [16:18:46] ok, fixed.. [16:18:48] he was missing a ; [16:18:56] That's just noobish [16:19:02] Completely untested [16:20:09] :( [16:23:09] argh [16:24:30] this thing was not tested :( [16:24:37] hello [16:25:07] Roan: $wgMultiWatchUserIDs= array (5,3,2,6,64,9); # this is the list of your users IDs to include in this mailing list [16:25:18] Roa: you think he means their usernamed? [16:25:20] usernames.. [16:25:21] jb what about it [16:25:34] jb go to your Special:Preferences page to find out your userid [16:25:37] could anyone help me real quick with something? :3 [16:25:42] ah ok [16:25:44] Or look it up in the database (user table) [16:25:47] xFusion sure, what? [16:26:01] ok this may sound stupid but how do i edit the navigation? [16:26:12] You mean the sidebar on the left? [16:26:15] yea [16:26:17] Edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [16:26:24] yeah, it dies after every edit with exceptions [16:26:35] where's that link? [16:26:36] "etected bug in an extension! Hook fnAddToWatch failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort." [16:27:18] jb it's just an old extension [16:27:26] Add return true; to fnAddToWatch() [16:27:39] xFusion go to MediaWiki:Sidebar as if it were an article [16:27:41] And edit it [16:27:59] oh wow [16:28:01] awesome thanks [16:28:45] also i had 1 more question [16:29:21] how do i make it so ONLY admins can edit my wiki? [16:29:50] xFusion edit LocalSettings.php (that's a file ;) ) [16:30:06] And add the following to the bottom: [16:30:12] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [16:30:19] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [16:30:30] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['edit'] = true; [16:31:00] do i have to add * Bureaucrat, Sysop) [16:31:00] (first | last) View (pre [16:31:02] er [16:31:11] do i have to add bureaucrat aswell? [16:33:52] Um. new problem. When installing mediawiki, mediawiki says my mysql user and/or password are incorrect. They are correct. [16:35:09] xFusion yes [16:45:03] Is there a way to make a second, custom, category namespace? [16:45:24] el_sjaako what do you want it to do? [16:45:28] Just alias to Category: ? [16:45:42] I use Lockdown to create protected pages [16:45:59] I want to make protected category pages [16:46:28] They should work te same, just be inaccesible to all but the members of certain groups [16:46:30] Roan: hrm, unfortuantly, it doesn't appear to be adding to the watch list.. [16:47:03] el_sjaako can't you just lock them down with lockdown? [16:47:22] The pages? no lock down locks down namespaces [16:47:34] some categorys should be availible to everybody [16:48:05] The most obvious way to do this is to create another catagory namespace [16:49:32] This isn't important enough to dive into the source code, But I thought that maybe there was A trick or something to do it [16:57:31] Another thing: is it possible to link directly to uploaded files [16:57:33] ? [16:58:27] for example, we have a lot of powerpoint files that people may wish to download, and the Image:pres.ppt page just interups the workflow [17:05:39] Hi all! [17:10:20] el_sjaako yes [17:11:01] [[Media:Myfile.ppt]] [17:14:25] brion-office: I'm not getting the e-mails from the mediawiki-cvs list any more. There do show up in the archives, though [17:18:07] I have a wiki locked to prevent editting except for a few authors, is it possible to unlock only the discussion page(s) ? [17:28:22] hi [17:29:34] i have a problem with mediawiki.. when I send a very long text it empty the page ... how can i do to be able to send very long messages ? [17:31:00] I don't know if it can depends from the host but I don't believe it: everyone can upload big files [17:32:06] does anyone have any suggestion ? [17:36:07] gongoputch http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_editing_of_an_entire_namespace [17:36:23] absss can't you send one part of it, then edit and send the next? [17:36:23] SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND: When I watch "Full Metal Jacket", I only watch the first part, where they're in basic training. The rest I don't care about. [17:36:51] RoanKattouw: Thank you [17:37:07] RoanKattouw, this is very boring, because i have to send a lot of long pages [17:37:27] absss are you copying them from another wiki, by any chance? [17:37:29] I don't really understand namespaces yet, but I guess this is the oportuntiy to :) [17:38:48] no, if i made this i would use a program, of course :p [17:39:31] i am copying documents in latin [17:39:34] absss and other people can send long pages? [17:39:49] none can send [17:40:17] absss how large (kB) are those texts? [17:40:50] > 60 KB [17:40:56] Hmm [17:41:17] You get a blank page after waiting some time, right? [17:41:37] Would 'some time' happen to be slightly more than 30 seconds, by any chance? [17:42:26] no it loads the page fastly.. but after the page is blank [17:42:44] ^^ That's weird [17:42:56] Try it with a 30KB and a 35 KB text [17:43:04] Some browsers have a magic limit at 32 KB [17:43:48] I use firefox, do you think it has this limit ? [17:44:13] No, shouldn't have [17:44:17] Is the wiki publicly editable? [17:44:35] yes it is [17:44:52] Can you give me a URL [17:44:54] ? [17:45:12] of couse: http://www.wikilatin.netsons.org/latin/Tacito/Annales/Liber_IV [17:45:19] it is a page very long [17:45:42] i sent it in 2 parts.. [17:46:20] ATTENZIONE: Questa pagina è lunga 72 kilobyte; alcuni browser potrebbero presentare dei problemi nella modifica di pagine che si avvicinano o superano i 32 KB. Valuta l'opportunità di suddividere la pagina in sezioni più piccole. [17:46:28] That's what I meant with the 32KB limit [17:46:34] Firefox doesn't have that problem, though [17:47:04] :O [17:47:18] so it is a problem of mediawiki ? [17:47:23] I tried copying stuff from that page to its talk page, and you're right, it gives me an empty page [17:47:47] it is very boring :P [17:48:08] absss you're running PHP 5.0.x, which is known to cause problems [17:48:17] Upgrade to 5.1.x or 5.2.x (latest is 5.2.5 AFAIK) [17:49:17] I gotta go now though [17:49:20] Bye folks [17:49:26] thank you [17:49:35] too late [17:54:14] Is there any way to change the foreground or background colour of some of the text inside a
 block?
[17:55:57] 	hello
[17:56:06] 	larsl: I believe that's handled by your skin
[17:56:29] 	stefw: I don't want to change the colours for the entire pre block, just a few lines of it.
[17:56:51] 	Underlining or something like that would also work.
[17:57:14] 	larsl: is it a code block?  I have been using the  tags to help with that.
[17:57:41] 	stefw: Yeah, sort of, it's an RDF example. I hadn't seen the  tags, I'll have a look at them.
[17:57:41] 	larsl: not sure about marking it up otherwise... perhaps using a table could help?
[17:57:56] *stefw 	knows pre is pretty much set by the skin
[18:04:21] 	Hm,  doesn't seem to work in my installation.
[18:04:42] 	!highlight
[18:04:42] 	there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[18:05:11] 	larsl: it's a tag extension, you have to install it.
[18:05:41] 	Ah.
[18:06:56] 	Hm, no Turtle or N3 support.
[18:08:03] 	larsl: inside of a literal 
 block, no, you can't do formatting
[18:08:30] 	TimLaqua: Can I change background colour for some lines inside a  block?
[18:08:33] 	larsl: but if you use the space on the first line style of pre (which is an MW block), you CAN throw markup in there.
[18:08:45] 	larsl: don't think so
[18:08:59] 	one sec, lemme throw up an example
[18:09:27] 	hi, i would like to catalog my city using mediawiki, semantic forms, semantic mediawiki and maps
[18:09:47] 	anyone would like to work directly on my wiki, i could let adsense
[18:09:57] 	for person interested
[18:11:02] 	larsl: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tim_Laqua/preHighlight
[18:11:43] 	TimLaqua: Ah, that is exactly what I wanted. Thanks.
[18:16:49] 	What's the syntax for not generating links from http://... URIs, but still use all other wiki formatting?
[18:18:01] 	http://www.google.com/
[18:26:04] 	03thomasv * r28114 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread.js: whitespaces
[18:26:04] 	03catrope * r28112 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiBlock.php: I meant to be *removing* these, not *adding* them.
[18:26:34] 	03thomasv * r28111 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.i18n.php: translation
[18:27:28] 	03brion * r28117 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[18:27:28] 	Reverting r28034 for now ("(bug 943) RSS feed for Recentchangeslinked")
[18:27:28] 	* Doesn't set the feed links so it's undiscoverable
[18:27:28] 	* Contents are entirely inconsistent with existing recent changes and history feeds
[18:27:28] 	* Adds unnecessary new messages
[18:29:43] 	03rotem * r28119 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[18:29:43] 	03brion * r28116 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialRecentchanges.php: Revert r28020; unnecessary since LinkBatch change in 28113
[18:29:43] 	03raymond * r28118 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesEn.php): Add a long existing special page ('confirmemail') to $specialPageAliases.
[18:30:36] 	CIA-39: good morning
[18:30:39] 	03brion * r28115 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (SpecialRecentchanges.php SpecialWatchlist.php): Replace some manually-constructed single-field queries made via overlong function sequences with nice easy selectField() calls.
[18:30:39] 	03brion * r28113 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinkBatch.php: People keep sticking raw user_text fields into LinkBatch::add(), so let's go ahead and convert the spaces so they'll actually work right. Sigh.
[18:30:39] 	03siebrand * r28110 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for LatexDoc
[18:30:41] 	03catrope * r28108 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (9 files): API: A cleaner implementation of r28057: this one also hides disabled modules from the list of possible actions on top of the help screen.
[18:30:43] 	03siebrand * r28109 10/trunk/extensions/LatexDoc/ (LatexDoc.i18n.php LatexDoc.php README): 
[18:30:46] 	* Adding i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin)
[18:30:48] 	* EOL whitespace and indentation fixes
[18:30:49] 	* Add $wgExtensionCredits
[18:30:52] 	03siebrand * r28106 10/trunk/extensions/InspectCache/ (InspectCache.i18n.php InspectCache.php InspectCache_body.php): 
[18:30:55] 	* Adding i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin)
[18:30:57] 	* EOL whitespace and indentation fixes
[18:30:58] 	ah, it woke up :)
[18:30:59] 	* Add $wgExtensionCredits
[18:31:00] 	03siebrand * r28105 10/trunk/extensions/UserContactLinks/ (UserSignature.i18n.php UserSignature.php): 
[18:31:02] 	ah, and the floodgates open :)
[18:31:03] 	* Adding i18n file (submitted by Bertrand Grondin)
[18:31:08] 	* EOL whitespace and indentation fixes
[18:31:10] 	03siebrand * r28107 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for InspectCache and UserContactLinks
[18:31:12] *siebrand 	grins at brion-office.
[18:31:25] *TimLaqua_away 	soothes CIA-39.
[18:31:57] 	TimLaqua_away: it's been quiet almost all day, so it was entitled to making a bit of noise :)
[18:32:00] *VasilievVV|Busy 	kicks CIA-39
[18:32:00] 	ow
[18:32:10] 	;-)
[18:32:50] 	woot?
[18:50:33] 	Does anyone know the location of documentation for or have some insight for autogenerating wiki pages?
[18:51:09] 	03rotem * r28120 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiLogin.php): In API action=login, make attribute sessionid work if a session ID doesn't exist yet.
[19:06:11] 	what must i have to make a remote bot ?
[19:08:58] 	03siebrand * r28121 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (14 files): 
[19:08:58] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[19:08:58] 	* be, dsb, el, fi, fr, hr, hsb, ka, kn, nl, qu, sk, stq, wuu
[19:09:56] 	04(REOPENED) Special:Protectedpages doesn't show pre-1.10 protections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11487  +comment (10brion)
[19:17:09] 	03brion * r28122 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/updateRestrictions.php): 
[19:17:09] 	* Graceful behavior for updateRestrictions.php if a page already has records
[19:17:09] 	 in the page_restrictions matching its old page_restrictions field.
[19:17:09] 	 May help with odd upgrade issues or race condition.
[19:24:13] 	hey i want to place a counter to the bottom of my mainpage that every one can see how many articles my mediawiki has, it should count automatically the articles, ive already placed the magicword {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} but this didnt update automatically the articles
[19:27:57] 	does anyone have an answer?
[19:28:05] 	Question: I run a wiki, and I need to email everyone on here that has registered..is there anyway to do that?
[19:31:34] 	03siebrand * r28123 10/trunk/extensions/ (38 files in 33 dirs): 
[19:31:34] 	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[19:31:34] 	* Fixes and additions to 33 extensions for ar, el, fr, hr, hsb, nl, no, sk, yue, zh-hans, zh-hant
[19:33:37] 	03(mod) Photo redirect to commons - close - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12173  -easy +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:33:40] 	03(mod) Ghost entries in bgwiki.categorylinks; wanted categories affected - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12168   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:33:40] 	03(mod) Change site name for Ido Wikipedia to 'Wikipedio' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12167   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:33:41] 	03(mod) Please add $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit to LocalSettings. php in the Malay Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12159   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:33:48] 	03(mod) updateRestrictions.php not working - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10700  (10brion)
[19:33:51] 	03siebrand * r28124 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix typos
[19:34:48] 	03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[19:34:51] 	was this answer for me :D?
[19:34:59] 	03(NEW) Enable Gadgets extension on the English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12190 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (ais523)
[19:37:17] 	03(NEW) Install Gadgets extension on commons.wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12187 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (le.korrigan)
[19:39:45] 	 hey i want to place a counter to the bottom of my mainpage that every one can see how many articles my mediawiki has, it should count automatically the articles, ive already placed the magicword {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} but this didnt update automatically the articles
[19:43:22] 	hi guys, i know this isn't a mediawiki thing, but a while back i had problems with mediawiki not being able to convert thumbnails. I think i've got it down to the fact that SElinux is installed on my system, but i have no idea how to modify or access that thing. any help, even if it's a reference to another channel would be helpful
[19:43:23] 	how can I increase the internal search accuracy. I'd like to include small words and file extensions
[19:47:32] 	03raymond * r28125 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Linker.php): 
[19:47:32] 	* (bug 12174) Update hooks.txt. Change Linker.php to use the hook name directely in wfRunHooks so that
[19:47:32] 	maintenance/findhooks.php doesn't say that 'EditSectionLink' and
[19:47:32] 	'EditSectionLinkForOther' aren't found in MediaWiki code.
[19:47:32] 	Patch by Alexandre Emsenhuber
[19:47:35] 	anyone? allow more in depth search results within the wiki itself?
[19:48:08] 	trying to debug why i'm getting logged out of a private wiki almost constantly
[19:48:22] 	i see it in the browser, as well as when running a bot instance on the site itself
[19:48:27] 	what could this be?
[19:48:36] 	nothing in the debug.log jumps out
[19:50:00] 	how can i set a counter which counts the articles and update automatically?
[19:54:46] 	\o/
[19:54:48] 	03(mod) PATCH - Special:Emailuser - removed invalid attribute - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12166  (10brion)
[19:54:48] 	03(FIXED) Update hooks.txt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12174  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[19:54:51] 	03(mod) Logs about watched pages should appear in the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5546  (10brion)
[19:54:52] 	03(mod) Image upload replacements should create watchlist entry - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778  +comment (10brion)
[19:58:35] 	04(REOPENED) RSS feed for Recentchangeslinked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=943  +comment (10brion)
[20:01:00] 	wiki-syntax to make a link of a word to an article?
[20:03:09] 	Notice: Undefined variable: output in /opt/web/pages/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php on line 361
[20:07:35] 	anyone has any idea how can I mass change a configuration option for all the users if it's not listed under the user options script?
[20:08:47] 	hey guys, is there any way to easily restrict users of making articles?
[20:10:04] 	doesn't that go against the concept?
[20:10:32] 	if its not "coded" in then theres bound to be an extension that does it already
[20:10:52] 	but yer, restricting users kind silly
[20:10:55] 	matx2pt0, it is coded in 
[20:11:05] 	and it is used to reduce spamming 
[20:11:11] 	I know it goes against the concept, but I've been having more than a few wiki-haters lately and I need to cool it off slightly
[20:11:46] 	['matx']['edit'] = false;# maybe
[20:11:46] 	I personally like the ability to be able to make an article whoever you are, but it's gone too far
[20:12:22] 	I'm not very familiar with MediaWiki..
[20:12:30] 	arnt we all ^_^
[20:12:58] 	well, I was just checking if there was some quick-fix to my little problem
[20:15:03] 	restrict it to registered users only for now and then hope the trolls get bored and go away?
[20:15:34] 	well, how do I restrict?
[20:15:35] 	:/
[20:15:50] 	!access | Qvazzler
[20:15:50] 	Qvazzler: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see .
[20:15:52] 	haven't the foggiest, it's been ages since i've messed with my settings
[20:16:02] 	ty Jack_Phoenix
[20:16:08] 	np, enjoy
[20:16:16] 	hey nice
[20:16:18] 	cheerios
[20:16:26] 	doughnut seeds?
[20:17:21] 	03brion * r28126 10/trunk/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php: Don't trigger a notice every time. Jeez.
[20:17:25] 	how can i place an counter on my mainpage which counts article and update them automatically
[20:19:29] 	bango, ye have a problem with caching
[20:20:25] 	media wiki caches pages to reduce server loads so using scripts that change the page wont be seen until you force the cache to be updated
[20:21:01] 	however, you can get round it ^_^
[20:21:08] 	hey, can we make CIA-* link the revision numbers to viewVC diffs?
[20:21:19] 	so their is no way to solve this problem?
[20:23:03] 	yes
[20:23:03] 	you can solve it
[20:23:06] 	are you counting page hits?
[20:23:09] 	a quick 5 second soution is to link to a image that is updated with the new number :D
[20:23:31] 	or, you can use a extension that purges the cache on your MainPage when your "counter" needs to be displayed differently
[20:23:57] 	okay and where can i get this extension?
[20:24:23] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MagicNoCache
[20:24:39] 	this is a good one i have used (and made some fixed too as well)
[20:25:15] 	that solve your caching problem you will get
[20:25:27] 	im not quick sure what your primary problem is tho ^_^
[20:26:21] 	*quite
[20:27:40] 	TimLaqua, what is CIA-* ?
[20:28:33] 	all the SVN bots
[20:29:36] 	im ive got a magic word on my mainpage it should count all articles, but if a add an article it doesnt count this article 
[20:30:14] 	maybe its because your cache isnt being cleared, if you edit the main page does the number change correctly?
[20:30:39] 	the magic no cache extension fixes that problem
[20:30:41] 	03(FIXED) Enable Gadgets extension on the English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12190  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:31:09] 	yes
[20:31:21] 	it change if i edit the mainpage again
[20:32:02] 	ok, well unless if i am mistaken, i quite sure if you install magic no cache extenion, and follow the instructions, your problem wil be solved _^
[20:34:01] 	okay thanks :)
[20:34:05] 	np :D
[20:38:19] 	03brion * r28127 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Parser.php: (log message trimmed)
[20:38:19] 	@fixme this is probably *horribly wrong*
[20:38:19] 	LanguageConverter seems to want $wgParser's uniqPrefix, however
[20:38:19] 	if this is called for a parser cache hit, the parser may not
[20:38:20] 	have ever been initialized in the first place.
[20:38:21] 	Not really sure what the heck is supposed to be going on here...
[20:38:24] 	For now, returning an empty string '' without dying out, but
[20:38:55] 	oh, the suspense...
[20:39:57] 	is there some special configuration to set $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_DB;
[20:39:59] 	?
[20:40:29] 	for some reason it gives me this error:  Call to a member function getConnection() on a non-object ... .../includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2266
[20:44:02] 	i have a problem... when i try to send a very long page mediawiki clears the page and it results blank. Is not a problem of my browser and isn't a problem of my host...
[20:45:22] 	if anyone want to test it: http://www.wikilatin.netsons.org/latin/Tacito/Annales/Liber_IV copy the whole article in the "discussion" page, it would be like the page was never created
[20:45:58] 	06(LATER) Please add $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit to LocalSettings. php in the Malay Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12159  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:46:00] 	03(FIXED) Chang in Bengali (bn) Wikisource {{SITENAME}} and Namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12186  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:46:01] 	define long :D
[20:46:03] 	03(FIXED) Install Gadgets extension on commons.wikimedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12187  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:48:12] 	hello
[20:48:16] 	hey
[20:48:35] 	I have a wiki and I have a question
[20:49:02] 	haha, i put pi to million places in a wiki and got "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1153: Got a packet bigger than 'max_allowed_packet' bytes (localhost)"
[20:49:05] 	is it posible change [[w:Name]] to "Name" 
[20:49:22] 	why the w:
[20:49:31] 	to link Wikipedia
[20:49:44] 	03(FIXED) Change site name for Ido Wikipedia to 'Wikipedio' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12167  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:49:52] 	ah
[20:49:53] 	My wiki have a lot of links to Wikipedia
[20:50:24] 	and its ¿molest? all time write [[w:Name|Name]]
[20:51:47] 	matx2pt0, you know about this?
[20:52:21] 	I whached MediaWiki.org, but I don't find it
[20:52:54] 	and its annoying all time write [[w:Name|Name]]*
[20:54:32] 	Ganon: You want a certain word to automatically link to Wikipedia?
[20:56:27] 	m... if I understand good, yes Pathoschild 
[20:57:51] 	I know it's possible; Wikimedia wikis do it for "RFC #" and a few other combinations.
[20:57:51] 	I want automatically link to wikipedia
[20:58:16] 	I have no idea how, though. Try searching "site:mediawiki.org rfc"? 
[20:58:22] 	(In Google.ca)
[20:58:33] 	it's a magic word
[20:58:33] 	Or .com.
[20:58:42] 	RFC and ISBN
[20:58:44] 	maybe a few more
[20:59:50] 	I'm going to try, thanks Pathoschild and Duesentrieb ;)
[21:00:12] 	Welcome.
[21:07:37] 	03(mod) Create the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:07:37] 	03(WONTFIX) Patch to make mediawiki work in mbstring. func_overload environments - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11054  +comment (10brion)
[21:07:42] 	03(mod) Redirect table is missing 1 million entries (~50%) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10931  (10brion)
[21:07:42] 	03(FIXED) Photo redirect to commons - close - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12173  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:07:42] 	03(mod) Change logo for Wikimania Team wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12155   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[21:07:43] 	03(FIXED) Change logo for Wikimania Team wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12155  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:10:50] 	Where should I look in the Documentations to get info on how to import from word document (.doc) files, if there is such a feature instead of having to copy/paste things??
[21:11:48] 	there is no such feature
[21:12:08] 	i think someone wrote a macro to convert to mediawiki syntax, though
[21:12:12] 	but nothing official
[21:12:33] 	Duesentrieb: not to be a bother...but if I have some manuals that I would like to post on a wiki... what is the best way to approach in (in selecting a lay-out, posting information)?
[21:13:40] 	is there some reason why activating CACHE_DB on 1.10 would cause GlobalFunctions.php &wfGetDB ?
[21:13:44] 	engida: as plain a possible. make pages not too large, use only one (max two) levels of headings.
[21:13:49] 	to generate an error?
[21:13:51] 	use tables sparingly
[21:14:17] 	engida: see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Textverarbeitung#Microsoft_Office for word/excel stuff - description in german though
[21:14:29] 	jlerner: no clue, sorry
[21:14:34] 	Duesentrieb: Thanks
[21:14:45] 	Duesentrieb: tx anyway ;-)
[21:15:30] 	engida: as to text: no colors, very little bolding, very few cursives... bah, just look at a couple of wikipedia articles :)
[21:17:14] 	Hi. Does anyone know which font is used by mediawiki when rendering SVGs via librsvg?
[21:17:49] 	or does it depend on the actual installation?
[21:18:19] 	norro: i don't think mediawiki does anything to influence the font.
[21:18:45] 	norro: no idea how rsvg decides which font to use. probably some gtk setting
[21:19:14] 	hmmm, okay
[21:21:36] *brion-office 	wonders why alt+tab and alt+q are right next to each other
[21:22:02] <^demon>	brion-office: I ran this by TimStarling and got his input, but would like your thoughts as well, Bug 12127?
[21:30:09] 	03(WONTFIX) Use date format preference on unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10brion)
[21:32:12] 	03(mod) Special: Whatlinkshere shows no more than 500 links through each redirect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5745   +need-review (10innocentkiller)
[21:32:14] 	14(INVALID) PRE lower border not shown - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11465  +comment (10brion)
[21:32:16] 	03(mod) Create the Lower Sorbian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181  (10cynic)
[21:32:16] 	03(mod) User list includes MediaWiki: Viewprevnext without rendering markup. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11454  (10brion)
[21:42:37] 	does the CACHE_DB option even work anymore?
[21:42:46] 	i tried in 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12pre
[21:42:50] 	all the same error
[21:43:06] 	Fatal error: Call to a member function getConnection() on a non-object in /var/www/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2240
[21:43:07] 	hey
[21:44:37] 	hi, i'm trying to avoid auto-logout (maybe by adding a code verification form instead) but i can't find what i need on the MediaWiki official page. Does anyone can give me an URL/hint?
[21:45:01] 	clamiax: log in with the "remember me" option set
[21:45:18] 	or check the checkbox in your Special:Preferences
[21:45:31] 	Skizzerz: does it allow the code verification form?
[21:45:54] 	Skizzerz: also i don't like to store my username and password into a cookie
[21:46:04] 	well, then how do you edit?
[21:46:19] 	you need a cookie to store your session ID
[21:46:29] 	Skizzerz: i want to always login but explicitally do a logout
[21:46:55] 	Skizzerz: how Wikipedia does?
[21:47:00] 	yes, then the remember me option would be your best bet
[21:47:30] 	mediawiki =/= wikipedia, I have no idea how they do things :P (I don't know a lot about mediawiki either, just what I can glean from the code...)
[21:48:40] 	Skizzerz: mmh okay, with that checkbox everybody can do a login from this box and it's not what i want, btw
[21:48:46] 	Skizzerz: THX for your help
[21:48:56] 	does anyone know a better way?
[21:49:21] 	s/box/PC/
[21:52:18] 	clamiax: the remembermy function is not locked to a PC (or IP). it's a permanent cookie with 30 day expiry. it does not contain your password, but a login token that serves as a kind-of temporary password for auto-login.
[21:52:36] 	03(mod) API/query: "rvrevids" error thrown for no good reason - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12177  (10roan.kattouw)
[21:52:37] 	03(mod) Use date format preference on unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10s.r.e.turner)
[21:52:48] 	14(INVALID) document $wgSpamRegex matches body, not just line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11701  +comment (10brion)
[21:53:32] 	clamiax: auto-logout only happens when you close your browser, afaik - so... what is the actual problem you are trying to solve?
[21:54:06] 	Duesentrieb: no, you are not right. It occur also due to inactive session (timeout).
[21:55:54] 	clamiax: after what ime period?
[21:56:23] 	Duesentrieb: would be cool to know, for me too ;)
[21:56:40] 	clamiax: well, look at the cookie. does it specify a timeout? 
[21:56:57] 	clamiax: if not, then it's governed by php's session handling. look at phpinfo.
[21:57:40] 	03(mod) Enhanced watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11728  (10brion)
[21:57:45] 	Duesentrieb: yes, it's a session stuff but i guess MediaWiki provide a support to manage it. I know some wiki which handles this case
[21:58:29] 	per default, it uses whatever php does
[21:58:54] 	i think it canbe configured to do otherwise, but i'm not sure about the details
[21:59:00] 	anyway - why not use "remember me"?
[21:59:19] 	it's effectively the same - a session id or a login token, the difference is academic
[21:59:25] 	bot grant access if you have the cookie
[21:59:28] 	*both
[21:59:29] 	Duesentrieb: because i don't want to see my username and passoward next time i open the site.
[21:59:38] 	hm?
[21:59:41] 	you don't.
[21:59:44] 	you are simply logged in.
[21:59:46] 	s/passoward/password/
[21:59:54] 	no password is transferred
[21:59:54] 	Duesentrieb: it'n even worst.
[22:00:02] 	o_O
[22:00:15] 	Duesentrieb: no other people shold have access to that site from there.
[22:00:27] 	Duesentrieb: and that's not what i want to do, anyway 
[22:00:29] 	:)
[22:00:35] 	03(mod) Allow localization of edit button images in LanguageXYZ.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11732  (10brion)
[22:01:28] 	clamiax: i don't get it. no one gets access, unless they use your browser with you user account on your computer. this is true no matter which of the two possible cookies you use to get access, the session, or the login token thingy.
[22:02:00] 	clamiax: there's no difference. it's effectively the same. the only difference is that one is automatically erased on timeout (server-side) or you closing the broweser (client side)
[22:02:03] 	and the other is not.
[22:03:02] 	Duesentrieb: how familiar are you with mediawiki's blocking code?
[22:03:09] 	not at all
[22:03:23] 	blocking?
[22:03:37] 	user blocks; was wondering if anyone saw http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12185
[22:04:21] 	rather puzzling to me why that bug exists
[22:04:23] 	mmmm
[22:05:07] 	That's pretty weird
[22:05:07] 	Duesentrieb: this differences ar quite important, as far as i can say. Using server sessions you don't care about client-side stuff and you don't have to explicitally clear the cache when finish to navigate your wiki.
[22:05:33] 	well i guess there's a comment in the code that suggests it was intentional
[22:05:40] 	Duesentrieb: just consider that not all people use multi-users systems and someone also use the web on an internet cafee.
[22:05:45] 	clamiax: ... are you complaining about the browser-server model?
[22:05:52] 	what i can't understand is why even have the option at all; it seems entirely pointless
[22:06:08] 	clamiax: MediaWiki didn't invent it.  we just use it.
[22:06:17] 	(the way it's currently configured, that is)
[22:06:38] 	TimLaqua: uhm.. yes, what that have to do with what i said? :)
[22:06:39] 	Hi. Could you remove the *!*@*.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net ban? n=Blaenk@pool-71-104-177-121.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net would like to get in.
[22:06:40] 	clamiax: this is why "remember me" is optional... also, if you do not log out, your session stays valid, until it times out. even if you close your browser.
[22:06:54] 	clamiax: the best you can do is simply increase the session timeout in the php settings.
[22:07:05] 	Duesentrieb: no, because it timeout when, e.g., you edit an article.
[22:07:30] 	Duesentrieb: no, that's not what i want. A code verification checks sometimes is a better way IMHO
[22:07:42] 	HO indeed.
[22:08:03] 	i don't known what HO mean.
[22:08:15] 	humble opinion
[22:08:24] 	uh
[22:08:41] 	clamiax: "code verification checks"? hm? what?
[22:09:17] 	MZMcBride it's useful when blocking IPs
[22:09:21] 	Duesentrieb: something like "If you are still alive insert the following code: bla bla"
[22:09:27] 	session.cache_expire is 180 minutes per default. session.cookie_lifetime is "until borwser is closed". up it, or live with it.
[22:09:33] 	Duesentrieb: it also is useful for the spam, i think.
[22:09:37] 	But when blocking users, preventing account creation is kind of pointless, agreed
[22:09:59] 	well it wouldn't be pointless if it blocked the last used IP
[22:10:06] 	True
[22:10:12] 	There should be an option
[22:10:22] 	clamiax: now you are talking abotu captchas? they have nothing to do with sessions...
[22:10:26] 	but whatever.
[22:10:28] 	Duesentrieb: i wondering why other users use this politics, then.
[22:10:33] 	use what is there, or write your own.
[22:10:36] 	MZMcBride please open a bug at BugZilla for that, assign to roan.kattouw@home.nl and let me look into it tomorrow
[22:10:40] 	I'm going to bed now
[22:10:47] 	with an IP address, what good is the option?
[22:10:53] 	?
[22:11:04] 	Prevent acc creation is very useful for IPs
[22:11:07] 	the IP will obviously be blocked because you're specifying that it be blocked
[22:11:09] 	MZMcBride: in my block user form, I have a Automatically block the last Ip address... checkbox
[22:11:11] 	True
[22:11:21] *RoanKattouw 	goes to check
[22:11:26] 	oh, i think i get it
[22:11:35] *TimLaqua 	is confused
[22:11:52] 	RoanKattouw: there's an open bug already: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12185
[22:12:07] 	Hmm
[22:12:11] 	TimLaqua: currently, if you block a username and have that checked, they can simply log out, create another account, and use that
[22:12:27] 	When the "block last used IP" is checked, it should work as expecte
[22:12:29] 	d
[22:12:32] 	I think
[22:12:32] 	oh, so it 'doesn't' do what it says it does?
[22:12:42] 	Duesentrieb: anyway, i'll consider your suggestions and i'll read more about MediaWiki in order to choose in a "right" way.
[22:12:47] 	and there are comments in the code indicating that it was intended to be broken like that
[22:12:48] 	Duesentrieb: THX.
[22:12:55] 	TimLaqua: it does: it prevents that user from creating other accounts while logged in
[22:13:03] 	MZMcBride where?
[22:13:17] 	what does that even mean? the user would have to log out to create a new account
[22:13:26] 	or else, use a separate browser
[22:13:31] 	RoanKattouw: i'm talking about the checkbox that says "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent IPs they try to edit from
[22:13:43] 	Duesentrieb: btw my sessions expires after ~5-10 minutes. What.s the story?
[22:13:48] 	Yeah, autoblock
[22:13:51] 	isn't that what we're talking about?
[22:13:57] 	TimLaqua: yeah, from my experience yesterday, the option doesn't work
[22:14:03] 	k.
[22:14:05] 	TimLaqua read bug 12185
[22:14:13] 	I did
[22:14:14] 	http://rafb.net/p/TkbLdc77.html
[22:14:17] 	is the comment
[22:14:31] 	wait, lemme check if autoblock works under that instance, haven't thought of that
[22:14:32] 	but he doesn't mention the autoblock ip checkbox in there
[22:14:44] 	read above line :P
[22:15:19] 	testing autoblock now
[22:15:19] 	Anyway, going to bed now
[22:15:25] 	here's what happened (to me, at least): i blocked a user account using all three block options and the user was subsequently able to use the exact same IP address to create an account and vandalize
[22:16:33] 	03(mod) Change "block account creation" functionality when blocking usernames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12185  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[22:16:51] 	Not to mention it twice, but BlaenkDenum is being caught by an ISP-wide ban from a week ago (*!*@*.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net). Could somebody please remove it?
[22:18:13] 	Peng,  that ISP is banned where ?
[22:18:22] 	Here?
[22:19:00] 	oh yeah..probably that HAGGER???? vandal
[22:19:27] 	Yes.
[22:19:32] 	someone change to % (silence) only :)
[22:19:35] 	Well, the times match.
[22:25:24] 	hey GDonato  :)
[22:25:40] 	hey, just popped in to see if it had been fixed
[22:25:58] 	nopie
[22:26:03] 	bye
[22:26:10] 	bye :)
[22:26:10] 	and THX.
[22:26:12] *GDonato 	finds no matching ban
[22:26:14] 	;)
[22:26:18] 	:O
[22:26:37] 	the first ban :P
[22:26:39] 	ah, i see it
[22:26:42] 	at the top
[22:26:49] 	brion-away,  did it :P
[22:26:56] 	no, domas 
[22:27:03] 	yeah :P
[22:27:15] 	brion-away,  has ops..he can fix it..I hope :)
[22:27:19] 	there are some overlapping
[22:27:51] 	I remeber that ban.. :S
[22:28:10] 	he uses proxy..and that is 100% a proxy ISP ;)
[22:35:45] 	03(mod) Use date format preference on unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  (10l8qjvx002)
[22:39:35] 	It seems like the latest update of Mediwiki introduces a bug whereby paragraphs (\n\n) does not encode as usual
[22:39:57] 	They simply disapear sometimes 
[22:40:36] 	
bla bla\n\nbla bla
should create to paragraphs but will merge into one [22:41:43] can mediawiki support multiple domains? [22:42:01] e.g. I have two domain names which need to look/be different from each other [22:43:12] hey guys what's up! [22:43:15] hello :) [22:43:21] 03(mod) Change "block account creation" functionality when blocking usernames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12185 (10N/A) [22:43:25] BlaenkDenum: finally :) [22:43:26] robert_: sure... wikimedia has ~800 domains :) [22:43:28] :D thanks guys I really appreciate the help! [22:43:35] woot [22:43:35] !family | robert_ [22:43:35] robert_: To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see [22:43:38] np [22:44:12] I meant can the same install of wikimedia service different domains [22:44:28] robert_: yes. read the link. [22:44:48] robert_: i recommend "Scenario 2: Quick set-up" [22:44:51] mediawiki you mean =p [22:45:19] heh :p [22:45:20] yeah [22:45:31] actually, that page should be rewritten. the "quick set-up" is the Right Thing [22:45:41] all the others are odd alternatives [22:46:15] it should just be a case of uploading mediawiki, and running the INSTALL script, to work with mysqldb, robert_ :P [22:46:33] *robert_ smacks eth01 :P [22:47:21] I just wanted to make sure I wasn't neck-deep in a wiki that neded scrapping because "Oh no, you can't do that!" [22:48:23] eth01: if you want to run different wikis on different domains on the smae install, you haveto do a bit more than just install it. [22:53:15] hooray [22:53:38] I get to write a multi-site hack of MediaWiki [22:53:54] robert_, so its not that easy ... [22:54:06] I never said it would be :P [22:54:16] but I said I would take care of it [22:58:20] 03(mod) Enable Wikitext for MediaWiki:Thumbnail_error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6044 +testme; +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:59:16] 03(mod) anchors with name= but no id= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11710 (10brion) [23:03:34] Where is the page to display picked, in the code? [23:03:53] I mean, where does it pick Main_Page when I enter index.php ?? [23:08:53] bye! [23:13:41] hey guys i need some help with my mediawiki, im trying to make a infobox but how ever i put it in i just get "Template:Infobox Software" as a result, any suggestions? [23:13:55] !templates [23:13:55] For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [23:14:07] thanks [23:15:42] wow [23:15:46] a lot of people here [23:15:50] hello xD [23:15:55] 03(mod) Enhanced watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11728 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [23:15:58] yeah i just saw O_O [23:16:30] ok, ill need some in-depth support please :) [23:17:19] !ask | minosa [23:17:19] minosa: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [23:19:21] yea, thanks. Who is able to help me make an own stylesheet (implement own template)? [23:19:32] "hey guys i need some help with my mediawiki, im trying to make a infobox but how ever i put it in i just get "Template:Infobox Software" as a result, any suggestions?" I look at the link that u gave me before and there i couldnt really find infobox's anywhere [23:23:51] Brandon_C: Read the link we gave you. It explains how templates are defined. Once you understand that, you'll understand that you can get the template code from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Software, which you'll need to paste into the wiki page "Template:Infobox Software" before you use it. [23:24:30] (You'll also need any templates that template uses.) [23:29:25] I tried to get through it, but I end up in too many files, so that I can't even understand/find where it loads the css. Looked in the FAQs and also the customazation, but ill need a complete own stylesheet file etc. [23:30:20] minosa: start simple, with theming your default skin. go to the page MediaWiki:monobook.css and add css styles. [23:30:32] donÄt forget to clear the browser cache [23:30:48] minosa: a *lot* can be done with simple on-wiki css modifications [23:32:41] What actual place produces the page output? Is it mediawiki->RestInPeace() ?? [23:33:05] depends on your definition of "produce" i guess [23:36:12] Solifugus: also, why do you need to know? in all my time hacking mediawiki, i never even tried to find that out :) [23:36:17] looks like it's Wiki::finalCleanup [23:36:18] I don't have ftp access to it's web server folder, though I don't want to edit monobook.css, but implement own stylesheet [23:37:01] minosa: then do as i told you. MediaWiki:monobook.css is a wiki page. edit it. you can use it to define styles. [23:37:50] minosa: or start with your personal styles: User:Minosa/monobook.css (if user styles are enabled, which they are not per default, i think) [23:38:09] yes they aren't [23:38:39] Duesentrieb: seems the most important thing of all to me... anyway, i have a farmw here it's going to Main_Page and then looping infinitely with redirects back to there.. (a hacked mediawiki) [23:38:44] Duesentrieb: and I need to fix it [23:39:28] the locatiosn where redirectsare sent is very likely completely different from the place where actual page output is performed. [23:39:49] Solifugus: try $wgDebugRedirects = true; [23:40:01] ok [23:40:21] this will give you "click-through" redirects, so you can see what'S going on. [23:47:39] 03(NEW) Special:Import, encoded square brackets in link texts are reconverted - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12189 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (ckirchho) [23:47:51] wow, am I stupid or can't I open my eyes?where do you mean monobook.css?MediaWiki? which the one I set up or the mediawiki.org? [23:49:00] hello can anyone help me figure out why my installation is not using the skin I want when users log in/out ? [23:49:02] Duesentrieb: Well.. great.. now I can click through infinite redirects.... http://wikidev.wsu.edu [23:50:03] Where, exactly is mediawiki's log? I've been putting print statements to a file all over the code to trace things.. [23:56:04] !debug | Solifugus [23:56:04] Solifugus: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [23:56:15] hum, I think you mean main.css ? [23:56:44] minosa: no. that's a file. i'm talking about wiki pages. [23:57:09] minosa: type MediaWiki:monobook.css into the search box. hit enter. it's empty per default. put something in there. it will be applied. [23:57:29] hello [23:57:49] What's the best way to stop spammers? [23:57:52] mwbot: i just figured it out.. error_log() is a php function... I never knew that.. [23:57:57] My captcha doesn't work :( [23:58:23] 03(NEW) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (snunes) [23:58:26] 03(mod) API/query: "rvrevids" error thrown for no good reason - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12177 (10N/A) [23:58:31] Solifugus: so, this works: http://wikidev.wsu.edu/wsuwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [23:58:41] Solifugus: i.e. you have a rewrite problem. [23:58:49] !rewriteproblem | Solifugus [23:58:49] Solifugus: a) do not put the files into the document root b) do not map the pages into the document root c) use different pathes for real files and virtual pages d) do not set a RewriteBase e) but all rules into the .htacces in the document root. [23:59:05] and read the manual agin with that stuff in mind [23:59:07] !shorturl [23:59:07] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. [23:59:13] Duesentrieb: that debug page looks VERY helpful .. thanks. [23:59:52] Solifugus: i'm pretty sure your problem is point c). [23:59:59] see above