[00:02:59] so far, what is the name space for Export? [00:03:07] NS_EXPORT? [00:03:37] hm? all special pages are in the Special namespace [00:03:50] but lockdown has a special list of special pages, so they can be locked individually [00:04:26] actually, the very first example on the lockdown page is about restricting access to Special:Export... [00:04:28] let c [00:04:37] i found the example [00:04:39] :D [00:08:24] nice [00:08:30] it work just like a dream [00:09:21] \o/ [00:09:32] !secrets [00:09:32] MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. [00:10:35] :D [00:15:36] what do you guys think about http://test.pvxwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page [00:15:40] old version www.pvxwiki.com [00:22:15] What is the page to rename the Preview button? [00:22:42] found [00:22:48] at MediaWiki:Showpreview [00:23:06] gcardinal: the layout is better, all the icons are a bit much though. i personally prefer a "flat" look [00:23:46] i mean, they are so prominent, it's hard to focus on the text. [00:24:05] :D [00:24:16] very nice, but there is also an ads [00:24:18] :)) [00:24:21] ha ha [00:24:48] the icons [00:24:53] seam to be 3d-lize [00:24:59] doesnt fit the page [00:25:52] gcardinal, i think thats all [00:27:03] Does anyone know of an extension that will convert articles into phpbb code? [00:29:52] i dont know :( [00:29:59] do you know about SMTP? [00:30:24] it seam like SMTP in WIKI using MAIL() function [00:30:42] i cant using mail function because i have some problem with my sendmail [00:30:44] should be using sendmail() [00:30:54] thats the problem [00:31:09] hmmm... [00:31:12] !sendmail [00:31:16] bummer. [00:31:22] i cant (dont know rather) how to setup sendmail to using a external SMTP [00:31:24] Let me check the manual [00:31:53] sendmail is a localhost only tool. [00:31:55] but currently i can using a class function for redeclare how to send mails [00:31:58] yea [00:31:58] taduyducvn: err, with regard to the wiki setup, you use mail/sendmail OR smtp [00:32:13] i dont see that :-S [00:32:15] is there any way to get mediawiki to send the user list to an irc bot? [00:32:26] try mybot [00:32:28] i think [00:32:37] huh? "the user list"? wtf for? [00:32:48] you can always just ask the database, but... [00:32:50] anyway [00:32:51] ha ha [00:33:13] taduyducvn: there are two options: use build in mail, or use smtp directly. so, wich do you want? [00:33:24] smtp directly [00:33:24] I'm trying to get users' nicks compared to the wiki's... [00:33:30] i using google aps [00:33:46] the auth is TLS [00:33:56] taduyducvn: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP [00:34:19] and http://pear.php.net/package/Mail [00:34:30] i touch this yesterday [00:34:37] installed pear install mail [00:34:46] 'IDHost' => "domain for MessageID", [00:34:49] what is this for [00:35:04] and how exactly how to setup with google aps [00:35:05] :| [00:35:09] its juz like gmail [00:36:07] Duesentrieb, yesterday, i tried this, but after register, it said it's going to confirm pssword but the page just gone blank [00:36:22] taduyducvn - after all its about a online game :) need to have a bit of "game" fealing [00:36:31] taduyducvn: "See Mail::factory() for a full description of these settings." [00:36:32] and I at least keep it white, not black [00:36:38] taduyducvn: http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.mail.mail.factory.php [00:36:40] :D [00:36:44] :-S [00:37:15] so we can put those variable in to $wgSMTP? [00:37:51] i suppose so, yes [00:38:22] <`Kumba> Curious, but can a MW Dev take a gander at Bug #9972 for a fix for the Tidy PECL extension in PHP5 to get internak tidy running again in 1.11.0? Looks like it's been sitting around for some time (Since May 2007) [00:38:25] let me turn on error logging for PHP [00:39:02] <`Kumba> *internal [00:39:06] <`Kumba> pesky 'k' key... [00:39:41] cya and thx [00:42:07] 'IDHost' => "domain for MessageID", [00:42:17] what r we going to put in to this? and how about SSL ? [00:42:55] Duesentrieb, what r we going to put in to this? and how about SSL ? [00:44:04] Duesentrieb, http://wiki.ani.vn/Special:Userlogin [00:44:14] try JimmyWhale [00:44:21] Click the Right Box [00:44:53] the page juz gone blank [00:45:23] !debug [00:45:23] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [00:47:21] try it again [00:47:27] i make it show all error [00:48:02] fck [00:48:09] i thought i installed Mail.php [00:48:11] >"< [00:50:59] Skipping package "pear/Mail", already installed as version 1.1.14 [00:51:04] :| [00:51:14] what the heck is the problem [00:51:51] Duesentrieb, i already installed, but somehow it doesnt include into the require_one function [00:54:11] because it's already there, loaded per default, perhaps? [00:54:25] taht's what it sais anyway [00:54:32] no idea, i never fiddeled with that stuff [00:54:46] :-S [01:03:22] YES! [01:03:32] FCK UP! PEAR! :D [01:03:37] got it [01:04:08] finally \:D? [01:04:10] \:D/ [01:04:55] www.husker.wikia.com [01:04:56] so, what was it, then? [01:05:00] anyone willing to help me with my main page [01:05:08] i fix all the require once [01:05:11] in pear package [01:05:14] in to correct path [01:05:25] may be my PHP wasnt include it correctly [01:05:33] so i dont have time to research for that [01:05:38] just edit it [01:05:40] ha ha [01:06:12] 03(NEW) Nice formating enhancement - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12262 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (FT2.wiki) [01:08:58] what do you want with your main page [01:09:09] i want it to look like this... [01:09:33] http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mainpagewishespv8.png [01:11:07] sry [01:11:09] i dont know [01:11:11] :D [01:11:34] k [01:11:42] THEN WHAT GOOD ARE YOU [01:11:43] :( [01:11:47] Duesentrieb, since the email works, how can i force user to confirm their email [01:12:10] you mean HOW or WHAT? [01:12:16] WHAT [01:12:17] =( [01:12:20] I MEANT WHAT [01:12:20] :-S [01:12:25] i dont understand [01:12:27] :-S [01:13:00] im not a dev, and since i dont design for wiki [01:13:02] i dont know [01:13:04] :-S [01:14:39] so what good are you? [01:14:41] no good that's what [01:14:42] ;-;; [01:14:45] ToAll: PHPBB3 now released RC8, Please do check out at http://phpbb.com [01:14:49] im good at PHP [01:14:52] programing [01:15:00] design, but not for wiki [01:15:04] It's a rhetorical question. :) [01:15:09] play computergame [01:15:14] relax [01:15:16] watch movies [01:15:23] and studies [01:15:37] oh jeez [01:15:39] :( [01:15:44] :D [01:15:45] ha ha [01:16:07] Anyone want to install LDPA on my corporate wiki free of charge? :P lol [01:16:15] LDAP or LDPA [01:16:16] i will not do that [01:16:18] as long as [01:16:20] you fix my main page [01:16:21] deal? [01:16:28] LDAP or LDPA [01:16:31] Ummm [01:16:35] Not sure... let me check [01:16:43] j_smith, LDAP or LDPA [01:16:50] ... [01:16:57] LDAP [01:17:10] oh [01:17:27] I need to interface our wiki with our AD server. [01:17:37] wiki can write info into ldap server? [01:17:41] Sure [01:17:47] PHP can atleast. [01:18:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [01:18:29] can you show me? [01:18:29] It's just too complicated to me - I don't know how to configure it to work with my network. [01:18:46] me too [01:18:50] try open ID [01:18:54] but its not so good [01:19:14] since they going to input the URL, not the username and password [01:19:24] We are using an Active Directory server - I don't have a choice in it. [01:19:50] :( [01:20:49] We have an Exchange server with over 2000 users and about 500 client systems. I'm just a lowly tech support guy trying to build a wiki. :) [01:21:26] :D [01:21:29] so you are new? [01:21:58] I've been working in this department for a year and in this company for about two. [01:22:41] This whole wiki concept is impressing a lot of people, so I gotta make it work :) [01:22:52] ha ha [01:23:00] why not programing your own [01:23:05] what is the page anyway [01:23:05] 03(mod) Indents by different methods slightly misalign - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12262 summary (10FT2.wiki) [01:23:37] 03(mod) Indents by different methods slightly misalign - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12262 15enhancement->normal (10FT2.wiki) [01:23:39] It's a website within our intranet - I can't give you access. [01:23:56] oh [01:24:14] but why do you need to do it? [01:24:16] intranet [01:24:17] :( [01:24:24] how large it is? [01:24:36] taduyducvn [01:24:39] where are you from [01:24:40] 03(mod) Indents and lists don't align - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12262 summary (10pathoschild) [01:24:49] It's going to be a user's manual for our point-of-sale software. We developed it in-house so there isn't a manual for it yet. [01:25:03] Im a Vietnamese [01:25:08] ah [01:25:11] :D [01:25:25] It will have a user base of about 1000 people, plus-or-minus a few hundred. [01:25:33] j_smith, its kinda good :D [01:25:57] my page is http://ani.vn [01:26:15] expensive for that domain, 80$ for the fist year [01:26:17] :(\ [01:26:20] :( [01:26:32] Ouch [01:26:39] My public website is: http://www.lyceumarchives.com/wiki/Main_Page [01:26:57] :D [01:27:02] hi there [01:27:04] wiki is here: http://wiki.ani.vn [01:27:06] yes? [01:27:16] Hi sputnick, how can we help [01:27:23] www.ffowa.org and www.husker.wikia.com [01:27:24] for me [01:27:29] AS LONG AS WE ARE EXCHANGING SITES [01:27:35] is there any information/documents to change default search engine by google one ? [01:27:47] =)) [01:27:52] Yeah, there is. Let me grab the link [01:27:58] MW 1.9 [01:27:59] I installed on just recently [01:28:05] nice ! [01:28:26] pretty sure i win chat [01:28:28] the original sucks :/ [01:28:29] because i have TWO wikis [01:28:29] ^^ [01:28:48] Landlord: Warl0rdz [01:28:55] WOT [01:28:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleSiteSearch [01:28:57] :) [01:29:00] !google [01:29:00] You have't googled it yet. ( http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com) [01:29:04] lol [01:29:34] ok so [01:29:37] who wants to make me an infobox [01:29:40] of attractiveness [01:29:47] sputnick, googlesitesearch worked for me on a 1.11.0 and it should work on anything past 1.5 [01:30:09] I had to dump it for unreleated reasons... but yeah [01:30:39] Landlord, you can steal one of the wikipedia ones if it fits for you. :) [01:30:46] i tried that [01:30:49] and it didn't relaly work [01:30:57] because wikipedia is too damn complicated and uses 1000 templates for one infobox [01:30:58] -_- [01:32:15] Landlort, both of your site seam to be low rank [01:32:20] i mean less people know about that [01:32:25] you're right [01:32:32] i have several sites [01:32:39] that rank in top 50k [01:32:47] i dont do link exchange [01:32:49] ha ha [01:32:51] so you try [01:32:53] to figure out [01:33:01] how to let people know [01:33:03] about it [01:33:16] is google search have a spy or something to trace search on www.google.com ? :) [01:33:18] yeah ok [01:33:30] my MW is only private :) [01:33:33] go to CMD [01:33:45] tracert google.com [01:38:25] Anyone know a trick to force google to re-index your website? [01:39:24] 03aaron * r28332 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php FlaggedRevsPage.php): [01:39:24] *Finish up $wgUseStableTemplates [01:39:24] *Remove unneeded expire variable [01:46:17] nice : [01:46:19] description' => 'Uses Google to search the wiki, instead of MediaWiki\'s own search function (not affiliated in any way with Google, Inc. [01:46:47] tha'ts logic, but I agree to read it [01:46:57] 03(mod) Editcounter down - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12260 +comment (10redrocketboy) [01:56:34] the google engine doesn't work as it should. instead, I have errors : http://stardust.3.free.fr/guest/b4z44r/wiki_google.png [01:56:56] with the old one, this search was find [01:58:27] the owner of php files is ok, the add lines ok too, I don't understand. I will restart apache/mysql but I don't need it I think [01:58:43] Ukmmm [01:58:49] It seems like google hasn't indexed your site yet. [01:58:55] möp [01:58:58] 12:1414) [01:59:16] anybody here who knows which PHP version I need for 1.10.x [01:59:16] 12?14¿12? [01:59:27] read the topic [01:59:33] erm... [01:59:36] PHP5 [01:59:41] ah [01:59:43] 1.6.10 [01:59:45] is for 4 [01:59:48] yes [01:59:57] run a php.info() on your website to see what version you have [02:00:02] 12T14hank 12Y14ou a lot - trying to update my wiki [02:00:06] 12Y14es I know [02:00:17] we have installed PHP 4 on the server yesterday [02:00:17] ok [02:00:23] Why php4? [02:00:25] install 5 ;) [02:00:31] that's why I'm looking for a PHP 4 Version [02:01:00] php5 has all sorts of cool goodies. [02:01:16] yeah that's right, but it's too buggy [02:01:22] our decision 12:1414) [02:01:22] is there a way to index it ? [02:01:26] It's in stable release [02:02:01] sputnick, try searching for that term here: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=google.com&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=CDD [02:02:12] 12O14kay I'll try to update [02:02:29] use the "Domain" option to limit results to only your domain [02:03:07] If you don't get any results there then you know for sure that's google your waiting on to index your website. [02:03:53] Heres where you submit a new website to google for indexing: http://www.google.com/intl/en/submit_content.html [02:08:21] hey J_smith, i just made a update for my PHPBB [02:08:23] :D [02:08:31] im now back [02:08:45] is there anyway to force user to confirm their email? [02:08:56] Umm let me check - brb [02:09:25] thanks j_smith [02:09:52] who knows how set mysql to search words with two letters ? [02:10:29] I have seen it here, a couple of month ago, but I don't remember [02:10:51] where I can set this. perhaps my.cnf [02:11:05] $wgEmailAuthentication - that enables confrimation [02:12:55] there is a way to assign permissions based on user-group [02:13:49] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ/fr#Comment_puis-je_configurer_le_moteur_de_recherche_pour_les_mots_de_moins_de_4_caract.C3.A8res_.3F [02:13:55] I find [02:14:01] ( in French :) ) [02:14:10] yes, $wgGroupPermissions['group']['right'] = true; (or false) [02:14:49] ah yeah,... I think the group you need to set is "autoconfirmed"? [02:15:30] just add a condition to being auto confirmed havening thier e-mail address confirmed. not sure how you would do that. [02:17:44] the group for confirmed email address is 'emailconfirmed' [02:17:53] 03tlaqua * r28333 10/trunk/extensions/Icon/Icon.php: Fixing tolerance to non-existent Titles. [02:18:25] mhm [02:18:48] Oh, I see. Thanks Skizzerz [02:18:55] np ;) [02:19:54] I'll need to know this latter if I can't make LDAP work. :) [02:48:39] Hello [02:49:03] Quick question... how do i reset a password.... specificlly the wikisysop... [02:49:23] did you specify an email address in your preferences? [02:49:56] when i look at the DB entry there is an email [02:51:20] Go to Special:Userlogin and click on the email password button, if you specified an email address for the wikisysop user, a new password should be emailed to you [02:51:59] if not... then I don't know what to do besides either making a new account and using sql queries to give yourself rights, or re-installing the wiki (I'd recommend the former) [02:52:46] How come i dont have userlogin in the special page ? [02:53:04] ? [02:53:10] wait.... [02:53:21] I go there but there's no reset email option [02:53:45] hmmm... [02:54:03] what happens if i blank out the password ? in mysql [02:54:10] that won't work, it's a blob [02:54:47] how do i enable email ? [02:55:32] uhh... let me find the variable [02:56:24] thanks... i took over this wiki... and the previous admin did not give me this specific login... [02:57:38] check to see if $wgEnableEmail = false in your localsettings.php [02:59:07] its true [02:59:20] ok [03:00:59] The previous admin enabled ldap user lookup... so i'm not even sure that when i log in it looks in the DB [03:03:48] 12G14rrrrr 12G14rrrrr [03:03:54] Any other ideas? [03:04:01] make a new account [03:04:07] install PasswordReset [03:04:08] how do I use this DBadmin stuff for maintenance [03:04:16] *grml* [03:04:20] temp set it so all users can use it [03:04:27] reset the password of WikiSysop [03:04:31] !passwordreset [03:04:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Password_Reset [03:04:41] uninstall/make passwordreset default again [03:04:46] log in as WikiSysop ;) [03:05:18] ah great [03:05:29] thanks i'll give it a try ! stand by! :) [03:05:35] mhm... [03:05:52] Oren: UPDATE user SET user_password=MD5(CONCAT("1-",MD5("password")) WHERE user_id = 1; [03:06:12] ooh, nice :) [03:06:12] dumdidum... [03:06:51] that's what it is currently - the passwordreset script in maintenence/ and the Password_Reset extension both use the wfEncryptPassword function [03:07:02] any ideas? using this maintenance stuff update.php [03:08:29] wah.... help pls^^ [03:09:00] manually SQL Update file anywhere? [03:09:04] i actually tried that and it didn't work... [03:09:16] u sure you're on the right user name? [03:09:28] select user_name from user where user_id=1 [03:09:32] wait let me try something... [03:09:42] yeah user 1 is wikisysop [03:09:46] case matters [03:11:10] 12L14aughing 12O14ut 12L14oud [03:11:10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Upgrading_to_1.6 [03:11:13] nice site [03:12:33] #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'WHERE user_id = 1' at line 1 [03:14:53] Ok got it... thanks guys :) [03:17:08] cool. [03:17:47] 03aaron * r28334 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.inc: [03:17:47] *Join on user table to get name. This allows for rc_user_text index use for pass 3 [03:17:47] *Remove old unused vars [03:19:01] How do i promote someone to sysop ? [03:20:45] nm got it... [03:20:55] is there a better wiki out there ? :) [03:21:03] lots of 'em. [03:21:05] ;-) [03:21:15] depends on what you want to do with it. [03:23:36] Just seem like it doesn't have enough administration control [03:23:50] or a specific administration page. [03:24:38] check out http://www.wikimatrix.org [03:24:39] Might want to look into a CMS if you want lots of control over the content. [03:27:04] Thanks u saved my bxxx :-p nighty. [03:27:18] http://wiki.ani.vn/ [03:27:35] check it out [03:31:26] Looks good! I can't read the language, but the style looks nice [03:35:05] night yall [03:58:54] fddf [04:04:17] Hi! I need some help to edit my mediawiki sidebar [04:04:38] anyone can help me ? [04:04:46] What kind of help? [04:05:17] I'm trying to edit it, but i can't change the text [04:05:35] they said that the page don't permit edit [04:05:48] It's protected so only sysops (admins) can edit it [04:06:19] i'm admin.... [04:06:28] where can i found this login and password ? [04:07:07] because the wiki ask me to register a admin user, and i'm logged with it [04:07:39] If you check in Special:Allusers does it say sysop after your name? [04:07:45] *Listusers [04:08:24] no [04:08:32] Ver (anterior 50) (próximo 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500). [04:08:32] 1. Guiadojogo [04:08:32] Ver (anterior 50) (próximo 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500). [04:08:36] just this [04:08:43] Then you have a problem :) [04:09:15] so i'm thinking that my mediawiki doens't havy any sysops [04:09:28] it isn't good [04:09:45] There was someone else with the same problem earlier today [04:09:49] can i create one sysops account ? [04:10:45] You can fix it in the database, if you're up to it [04:11:32] i'm going to try it 12,00:01D [04:11:34] thanks 12,00:01D [04:11:45] First would be to do a select * from user_groups; to see if the rights exist, but with the wrong user id [04:12:04] If they exist, you change the id. If not, you have to insert them [04:14:14] select * from user_groups; 0 num_rows [04:14:51] i need to create a register id = 1 and ug_group = SysOp ? [04:16:24] sysop [04:16:55] and another row with bureaucrat [04:18:39] \o\ [04:18:42] now i can edit [04:18:46] really thanks 12,00:01D [04:18:57] have a nice day! cya! [04:21:37] 03shinjiman * r28335 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkLanguage.inc: the zh series message does not using plural [04:26:22] Hello mediawiki users. [04:26:47] I recently installed mediawiki 1.11.0, but I don't get the languages sidebar. [04:27:34] I mean to say that, interwiki links to other language versions don't appear in a languages sidebar for my wiki. I would like to enable that feature. [04:30:20] mumia-w-19: Have you created the interwiki links in the wikitext? [04:31:04] Yes, I think so; you mean like this? [[fr:Autriche]] [04:31:37] or, [[it:Austria]] [04:32:29] Yes [04:32:42] What about your interwiki map setup? [04:32:53] What is an interwiki map? [04:33:36] Does it relate to this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking#Interwiki_links_to_other_languages [04:34:40] yes [04:35:10] Okay, it looks like I have to edit the SQL database :-) ; just a moment .. [04:36:48] There is an extension for modifying interwiki too, I think [04:54:15] Dashiva, I updated the interwiki table, but the interwiki language links are still not showing up in the sidebar. [04:59:10] 03(NEW) redirect on cross-page deletion - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12263 minor; low; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dragons_flight) [05:06:10] hello [05:10:36] anyone know of an integration extension for wordpress or phpBB3 ? [05:14:02] check out the topuc [05:14:02] what? [05:14:04] is it DSA [05:14:07] DSADAS [05:14:12] check out the topic [05:14:17] is it? [05:14:21] me? [05:14:32] pls look at the IRC topic [05:14:35] I was talking about the topic change. [05:14:36] yeah what about it [05:14:40] it's dsadas [05:14:45] oh [05:14:46] wtf [05:14:53] my mistake [05:14:55] damn [05:14:55] * taduyducvn has changed the topic to: dsadas [05:14:58] taduy, kind of cryptic, isn't it? [05:15:14] yea [05:15:19] my mistake [05:15:21] :( [05:15:30] Like that? [05:15:31] ha ha [05:15:44] good one [05:15:52] You just got (rv)ed [05:16:01] what do you mean? [05:16:11] rved [05:16:20] Just a small joke [05:17:16] ha ha [05:17:24] heh :) [05:17:35] ChatZilla [05:17:42] allow user to click to the topic [05:17:46] and it will edit [05:17:51] :D [05:17:54] So? [05:17:58] so [05:18:03] if the Channel [05:18:10] did not do the permission thing [05:18:13] it will edit [05:18:31] Ok ok, stop: here is no t mode in this channel for some reasons [05:18:46] i think [05:18:52] JimmyWhale has [05:18:54] ha ha [06:02:52] 03tstarling * r28336 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (EditPage.php OutputPage.php Parser.php ParserOutput.php): Add support for parse warnings. Currently only displayed on preview, but can be put in other places if desired. [06:04:18] check this action out [06:04:56] 03tstarling * r28337 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ (ParserFunctions.i18n.php ParserFunctions.php): [06:04:56] * Add a warning on preview if the #ifexist limit is exceeded [06:04:56] * Add all pages which exceed the #ifexist limit to [[Category:Pages with too many ifexist calls]] [06:05:28] oooh yeah [06:05:51] Hehe :) [06:06:57] sexy. [06:12:14] 03tstarling * r28338 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php: Watch out for invalid titles [06:12:18] 03(mod) #ifexist limit exceeding should be indicated on the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12233 +comment (10tstarling) [07:15:01] Greetings, all! I'm installing SpamBlacklist extension. I have updated the localsettings.php and want to know how to get the cleanup.php script to run against the database to clear out the existing spam. [07:19:07] type at a command prompt: php cleanup.php [07:22:14] TimStarling: With the new preprocessor, will Parser::recursiveTagParse() expand template {{{argument}}}s? [07:24:10] no [07:24:24] Fair enough. [07:26:09] I've only introduced changes at this stage that were necessary to support the architectural change [07:26:13] new features can come later [07:32:56] Werdna: I would love to, however, my site is hosted in such a way, I do not have access the the CLI [07:38:01] Zylogue: well that's a problem, then. [07:38:13] that is what I thought... [07:38:27] I have 24 hr support, maybe I can convince one of them to run it for me... [07:47:34] Is anyone familiar with the ConfirmEdit extension? I am trying to verify it requires a 'library' of images to be created or if it generated the library on its own. [09:02:24] <_wooz> lo [09:05:59] hallo [09:26:08] 03wegge * r28339 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: Added/updated translations for da. [09:33:40] re [10:00:19] haha [10:00:27] added/updated and only removed four lines [10:01:34] Anyone familiar with the 'Nuke' extension? [10:01:39] 03siebrand * r28340 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [10:01:39] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [10:01:39] * remove trailing whitespace [10:02:05] ugh i am so confused [10:02:32] I just added Nuke to my site, and it really modified the view of the site with some type of log details for each page... [10:03:15] 03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10ross) [10:19:51] 03rotem * r28341 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.php: Update for he. [10:37:03] Is VCView another extension for MediaWiki? [10:39:11] Sorry, meant ViewVC [10:42:34] no [10:43:38] I think I have discovered my problem... http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Nuke/ does not provide download links, but change log details, instead [10:48:26] 03rotem * r28342 10/trunk/extensions/Gadgets/Gadgets.i18n.he.php: Adding Hebrew translation. [10:50:02] Zylogue: you can download the latest file in the log [10:50:18] (as well as all other revisions of the files) [10:50:19] I got it, using svn client [10:50:40] not familiar with svn, yet [10:51:33] ok [10:57:20] Hello, what gets processed first-> template vars or extensions? [10:59:16] template vars AFAIK [10:59:39] well, template substitution is first. [11:01:12] Werdna, hmm.. I have something that isn't working and I am suspecting this reason.. could you take a look at: http://www.wiredtape.com/w/index.php?title=Limited_Liability_Company/US/MD/Form [11:01:29] on the right in the box, there is a "Related Links:" [11:01:59] which should populate from sub page list extension... but for some reason it doesnt work... [11:03:09] try substing the template, see what happens [11:03:45] substing? [11:05:19] {{subst:recipe}} [11:05:45] what does that do? :) [11:06:15] And now it works :) [11:08:13] it appears that template vars are done AFTER extensions [11:09:12] Thank you,should this go into bugzilla as a possible bug? [11:09:42] if a special extension does not show up in the special page, is there a way to add it, manually? [11:09:46] parser is being rewritten, anyway. [11:10:02] Zylogue: $wgExtensionCredits, I think. No idea. [11:10:08] Wiredtape: what version? [11:10:18] oh wait, one sec [11:10:29] 1.11 [11:10:39] hehe [11:10:41] there's a new preprocessor in 1.12-alpha, so it could be fixed in that. [11:12:12] When I think about it, I'm not so sure it is a bug... I can see use to having extensions processed first... perhaps two passes are needed on the template vars side? [11:13:37] Werdna, is 1.12-a available on svn? [11:13:44] that's what svn is. [11:13:56] well, svn trunk [11:15:32] well.. thanks for all your help.. [11:16:34] np [11:41:46] Good evening. [11:43:07] Hello [11:43:56] Does anyone here know where/if one can alter standard search-functions? [11:44:17] look at LuceneSearch extension [11:44:18] IE, I want my Wiki to always seach "Categories" as well as everything else for all users? [11:44:57] I figure it should be a pretty basic file somewhere detailing default search-methods even for users not logged in. [11:45:14] yeah [11:45:22] there's a configuration setting. [11:45:38] localsettings.php I take it? [11:46:06] yeah, but it's set in defaultsettings [11:46:07] one sec [11:46:19] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault [11:47:08] Ahaha! I think I found it. :) [11:47:11] Thank you. :) [11:48:10] Simple enough once one knows where to look. :) [11:48:19] Many thanks. Works like a charm now. [11:50:27] (( Basically made a small template for navigating years like cathegories, and then putting events inside the year-cathegory. And somehow... I wanted the year to show up when searched. :) )) [12:03:12] is there any way to make a title alias for an article -> ie. rename it without changing the url? [12:05:16] Wiredtape If you move an article, a redirect will be created in the original position [12:06:10] I don't really want to move the article... although that could be a last case scenario.. what I was thinking of was along the lines of an extension that could rewrite the title based on something like title="blabla" [12:09:25] 03(mod) New namespace request - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12254 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [12:10:43] 03(mod) Enable Gadgets extension in cs.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11994 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [12:10:52] 03(mod) Enable Gadgets extension in cs.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11994 (10mike.lifeguard) [12:18:05] 03siebrand * r28343 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [12:18:05] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [12:18:05] * remove trailing whitespace [12:22:18] 03(NEW) bug in Contributionsedicount extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264 04BLOCKER; highest; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [12:24:30] 03(mod) bug in Contributionsedicount extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264 (10bertrand.grondin) [12:27:54] hi ! [12:28:41] I've submitted a bug which blocks wikis supporting Contributionsedicount extension [12:28:43] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264 [12:29:19] a syntax error in Contributionseditcount.php in line 18 (a comma missing at the end of the line) [12:32:24] 03(FIXED) sep11 wiki still on Special:SiteMatrix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10273 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:32:45] 03siebrand * r28344 10/trunk/extensions/ (10 files in 10 dirs): [12:32:45] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [12:32:45] * remove trailing whitespace [12:39:43] 03(FIXED) bug in Contributionsedicount extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12264 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:52:32] 03raymond * r28346 10/trunk/phase3/ (HISTORY README UPGRADE docs/hooks.txt locale/README): [12:52:32] * (bug 12257) Update some documentation files [12:52:32] Patch by Alexandre Emsenhuber [12:53:10] 03(FIXED) Update some documentation files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12257 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:55:13] 03siebrand * r28347 10/trunk/extensions/ (17 files in 16 dirs): [12:55:13] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [12:55:13] * remove trailing whitespace [13:02:57] Hello [13:18:45] Braincramp! where do I find the name of the skin in use on my site? [13:20:09] Zylogue: wgDefaultSkin in your LocalSettings.php [13:20:20] that'S the default... skin is a user preference [13:20:20] Thanks! [13:30:08] Call to undefined function wfLoadExtensionMessages() when adding SpecialPostComment [13:30:51] also in ConfirmEdit extension [13:31:02] any suggestions? [13:35:45] 03(NEW) Add a space after MediaWiki:Revisionasof - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12265 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (gtisza) [13:37:06] Zylogue: use an older version of the extension [13:43:41] 03siebrand * r28348 10/trunk/extensions/ (20 files in 20 dirs): [13:43:41] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [13:43:41] * remove trailing whitespace [13:47:04] 03(FIXED) Add a space after MediaWiki:Revisionasof - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12265 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:52:24] 03siebrand * r28349 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [13:52:24] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [13:52:24] * remove trailing whitespace [13:54:51] *habj has a question on the "New pages patrol" function. If a wiki changes to give all autoconfirmed users access to this function, is it also possible to change how old an account need to be to be autoconfirmed? [13:55:29] *habj waves to avar [13:55:46] habj, you seem to be talking about yourself in the third person [13:56:03] XD [13:56:08] TimStarling: I have that habit. I am silly enough to find it kind of fun [13:56:51] $wgAutoConfirmAge [13:56:51] and besides... that is usually the best way to get some attention in a channel where people don't know you. Honestly. I know you want people to ask right away instead of asking to ask... but in most channels, if you do that, you get simply ignored. [13:57:27] TimStarling: so who has access to change this? it should be bugzillad and the devs do it? [13:57:42] oh, you're asking about a wikimedia wiki? [13:57:53] ah yes [13:58:12] yes you should file a request in bugzilla [13:58:20] and please link to the page on the wiki where it is discussed [13:58:45] note that $wgAutoConfirmAge affects everything related to the autoconfirm permission [13:58:53] don't ask to change one thing and not another [13:59:01] OK. Good. Thanks for info. We'll probably ask to have the patrolled-function changed to autoconfirmed, and maybe change the autoconfirm level at once [13:59:04] *nod* [13:59:27] where can I find a list of what is affected by autoconfirm? Only half-protected pages and this, or something else? [14:00:24] what wiki? [14:00:57] swedish wikipedia [14:02:46] reupload and semi-protect [14:03:03] those are the defaults, I don't see anything that would override them for svwiki [14:03:34] reupload... if I'm correct we currently don't have local file upload, it has been shut off [14:03:52] well then that one won't have any effect [14:04:14] OK, so only this and semi-protect [14:04:28] thanks. we'll get back in bugzilla after we've decided [14:09:07] 03(mod) Show warning and require a second save action when the page being saved contains an unmatched extension tag - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11691 (10N/A) [14:09:07] 03(mod) #ifexist limit exceeding should be indicated on the page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12233 (10N/A) [14:22:44] TimStarling: would allowing to parse #ifexists hooks correctly (using LinkBatch) be better than making everyone fixing thousands of pages on Wikipedia? [14:23:56] how do you propose to do that? [14:26:07] TimStarling: add batch hooks which will replace #ifexist with special marker, then when all #ifexist are collected, make a query to determine which cases should be used [14:27:58] a marker? [14:28:25] you mean adding a marker to the tree, or the output? [14:29:09] when would you expand the title parts? [14:29:10] I meant a marker that will be finally replaced with a result of #ifexist processing [14:29:32] Title parts? [14:29:40] I figured that, I'm just wondering whether you imagine this marker to be in the tree or the output side [14:29:50] have you looked at the new preprocessor at all? [14:30:56] TimStarling: I meant UniqPrfix [14:31:48] I guess you mean the output side then [14:31:59] since it would be a bit silly to put one of those on the input side [14:32:39] so how would you resolve the case where the title to be checked in a #ifexist depends on another #ifexist? [14:32:52] would you do one #ifexist replacement per template? [14:33:02] per recursion depth? [14:33:23] would one per template really be gaining much? sometimes people have hundreds of template invocations with one #ifexist each [14:34:06] if you put the markers on the output side, then wouldn't that mean reparsing the output once the markers are expanded? [14:34:19] wouldn't that reduce performance and lead to potential syntax changes? [14:34:29] Hm.. No ideas [14:34:43] e.g. uncovered extension tags and what not [14:34:45] *VasilievVV is looking at new preprocessor [14:35:16] surely reparsing is a really bad idea... [14:35:27] you'd have O(N^2) performance [14:38:06] most #ifexist calls have dynamic titles, related to template arguments [14:38:16] so a simple context-free scan and replace on the input side wouldn't gain you much [14:38:58] maybe the way to go would be to do the entire PPFrame::expand() twice [14:39:37] ok, twice except in the case where #ifexist title depends on another #ifexist [14:39:47] twice per such recursion level [14:40:43] you'd basically expand the entire recursive structure through all templates, stop at each #ifexist call and record its title [14:40:49] then do the link batch query [14:41:05] then do a second expansion parse where you actually follow the #ifexist branches [14:41:23] but you'd stop on any further #ifexist calls that aren't yet cached [14:41:29] and then continue the process iteratively [14:41:48] s/expansion parse/expansion pass/ [14:42:40] sounds possible... but it would mess up my ideas for more memory-efficient tree structures, since the one I have in mind is not changeable after it's created [14:43:34] and those multiple expansion passes would slow the whole thing down significantly [14:44:36] 03(NEW) Description page from Commons is not always transcluded on local projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12266 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (le.korrigan) [14:46:42] 03raymond * r28350 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * Updates German [14:47:17] what would cause my paths to show /index.php5/article_title -- how can i remove index.php5? [14:48:35] VasilievVV: actually there may be an issue with that scheme [14:48:51] if extension tags are not called in the order they appear in the document, will be messed up [14:49:09] :-( [14:49:23] I guess you could do them in a separate pass [14:49:55] but then there's recursiveTagParse() to deal with, I guess it'd be another set of link batches for each of those [14:50:13] not that recursiveTagParse() is handled efficiently right now [14:50:24] Really, isn't well-parsed just now. AFAIK we still have bug with and {{#if}} handling [14:51:09] so what do you think, VasilievVV? [14:51:37] can you write this batched #ifexist feature for the new preprocessor, have it pass a differential fuzz test, and have the result be comparable in average performance to the current version? [14:52:00] TimStarling: not really [14:53:48] *VasilievVV really should look more carefully at the new preprocessor [14:55:20] hmm [14:55:31] who broke something.. my styles don't work [14:55:34] *habj nudges Nikerabbit [14:55:40] O_O [14:55:56] *Nikerabbit suspects BOM around somehwere [14:58:19] something is outputting extra tabs [15:00:12] ah, found it [15:00:32] and the guilty too [15:01:51] 03nikerabbit * r28351 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ContributionScores.php: * Let's not break things [15:06:17] the new preprocessor is more complicated than the old preprocessor, there's more lines of code [15:08:55] the idea was to trade increased code complexity for better performance [15:09:18] which is really where the parser has to go in the future [15:10:11] hybrid C/PHP is another step up in complexity again [15:10:52] failing test cases [15:10:58] all thou i dont understand the failure [15:11:43] oh, sorry. good day everyone [15:12:03] MediaWiki doesn't use test cases like an ordinary piece of software [15:12:14] there's a whole lot of "wish list" test cases that are never going to pass [15:12:19] and never have [15:13:13] so the tests in subversion tree are expected to fail? [15:13:29] Even stable tests are expected to call [15:13:39] expected to call? [15:14:36] heya, I want to edit links on my sidebar, I did it before but now it says that is locked to prevent abuses, and I don't remember wher did I locked it [15:14:39] *to pass [15:15:08] VasilievVV: yes, thats exactly my point. i got failing tests here [15:15:23] That's OK [15:17:03] is this the right channel to ask someone to look at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10184 "Extension stylesheets should be loaded before any others" again? I created a patch for it on the 7th [15:18:03] rza: can you give me an example of a test that's failing? [15:18:25] TimStarling: sure [15:18:31] http://phpfi.com/282286 [15:18:55] yeah, those aren't maintained [15:19:22] there's no test suite you can run which will tell you anything useful as a user [15:20:27] you'd need to know the code pretty well to know what any of them means, and whether or not they're meant to pass [15:22:11] those look like there suppose to fail, false should never be equal to true [15:22:24] *Nikerabbit got this weird idea of serializing extension translations and loading them on-demand [15:23:34] TimStarling: thank you [15:24:37] Nikerabbit: sounds like a good idea [15:25:16] TimStarling: actually I tried to implement it, but run into problems with magic words [15:25:47] magic words are a bit sucky at the moment [15:25:53] they can't really be lazy-initialised [15:26:09] no reason that couldn't change though [15:26:26] ive had this idea for a while to add support for the imagick extension (instead of running imagemagick command line tools) [15:26:29] would need a way for the main mediawiki core to know the relationship between magic words and an extension [15:26:34] does this seem like a usable feature? [15:26:37] would have to break bc or add new system [15:26:42] rza: yes [15:26:54] hello, is it possible to create pages which are only accessible by admins [15:27:08] I mean not even readeble by normal users [15:27:25] darkcode: well, you can always add a new registration mechanism that's only used by new extensions [15:27:39] then magic words initialised by the new mechanism can be lazy-initialised [15:27:44] TimStarling: and in my benchmarks imagick is about 2x faster than running convert from command line (especially for small to medium size images) [15:28:08] php proc_open / exec overhead + parameter parsing in convert [15:28:17] ya [15:28:41] is it possible to get more than 50 results back from the Special:Recentchanges RSS feeds? I tried adding &limit=500 on wikipedia but I still get 50 back [15:28:57] rza: ImageMagick crashes pretty regularly [15:29:11] I don't think I'd like to use an extension on Wikimedia [15:29:21] TimeStarling: I don't suppose you could take a quick look at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10184 ? [15:29:45] it's not small images that are the problem [15:30:18] anyway, for small installations without much hardware to throw at the problem, it might be useful [15:30:36] TimStarling: crashes ? [15:30:37] darkcode: not right now [15:30:46] TimStarling: got a backtrace? [15:31:23] rza: once it runs out of memory it usually dies [15:31:30] not particularly surprising [15:31:33] ah, you should put disk caching on [15:31:43] that will slow things thou [15:31:46] like any swapping [15:31:57] well, we have a memory limit and a temporary file size limit [15:32:04] set with ulimit [15:32:28] but imagemagick has its own setting also. to keep certain amount of stuff in active memory and cache rest to the disk [15:32:31] because we didn't really like it when imagemagick would write 5GB of temporary file to /tmp and fill up the appserver's hard drive [15:32:43] i dont know if thats shared between processes [15:37:35] Anyone familliar with Image Thumbnails? Like generating them in the background [15:39:11] rza: what you're proposing should be a fairly simple patch to BitmapHandler::doTransform() [15:39:40] it should definitely be in the MW core, not an extension [15:40:54] Currently, i'm using Image::newFromName( $img ), then getFullURL(). But if i'm going to display it at 24px, setting the Width attribute of the tag is silly if there's an existing 24px thumbnail - so I'd like to figure out how to use the real MW thumbnailing. [15:42:07] TimStarling: yes, seems like thats the place [15:42:30] TimLAqua: Imagemagick? [15:43:02] Dvyjones: well, there are existing classes in MW that handle thumbnails. It doesn't make sense to go re-invent the wheel. [15:43:07] The existing wheel is much rounder. [15:43:13] sorry, probably didn't get the whole conversation [15:43:17] :P [15:43:21] brb [15:44:01] TimLaqua: do you want it to work on old versions of MW? [15:44:38] I'd like to do 1.10+, but if it's much easer 1.11+ - I don't have a problem working w/ the new classes. [15:44:41] TimStarling: and possibly BmpHandler [15:45:16] TimStarling: I'm more interested in the future than past releases. [15:45:21] BMP sucks, I don't know why anyone would want to use that format on the web [15:45:33] How do I link to a category, without adding the article to it? [15:45:55] DigitallyBorn: [[:Category:CatName]] [15:46:11] why do we have BMP support and no TIFF support, or PDF support? [15:46:14] TimLaqua: heh, thanks [15:46:45] because you or someone else hasn't added it yet? [15:47:07] TimLaqua... [15:47:14] TimStarling: yes? [15:47:28] $thumb = $image->transform( array( 'width' => 24 ) ); [15:48:00] if ( $thumb->isError() ) { ... } [15:48:16] $img = $thumb->toHtml(); [15:48:21] TimStarling: creating a thumbnail image out of pdf should be quite easy [15:48:34] And what object is $image? [15:48:41] of type ImageHandler? [15:48:58] I think Hashar just added BMP support to make fun of me using the term "bitmap" for something other than BMP :) [15:49:18] I'm trying to start a session in a script outside mediawiki, and access the mediawiki $_SESSION vars, but I'm not having any luck... anyone have any ideas why my script's session is completely different than in mediawiki? [15:49:19] TimLaqua: you created it already with Image::newFromName [15:49:33] k. i'll go poke around. tyvm. [15:51:42] Btw, i'm working on the Icon extension - which is basically aimed at NOT linking to the image description page - I understand that the reason we link to the description page is for license issues, so is anyone familliar with exactly what level of attribution is needed? [15:52:03] I.E. would a box at the bottom of the page or under the toolbox listing attribution links suffice? [15:54:23] TimLaqua: that would depend on the policies of the project in question [15:54:58] and the license for the image in question [15:55:33] TimStarling: Does MW store any metadata regarding the license of uploaded images (other than as part of the rev_text blob) [15:55:35] 03catrope * r28352 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [15:55:35] API: [15:55:35] * Add list=allcategories module [15:55:35] * Fix token-related E_NOTICEs [15:55:43] you realise ImageMap already allows images that don't link to description pages? [15:55:53] what about something in the footer, next to the site-wide license? or is that too subtle? [15:56:52] TimStarling: Yeah, I looked at ImageMap a little and didn't think it suited what I was looking for - Doesn't ImageMap always throw the little info link in the lower right? [15:57:01] no, you can switch that off [15:57:32] hmmm, and it pry properly handles thumbnails too, huh? ;-) [15:57:49] see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WikipediaSister&action=edit [15:58:00] yes it handles thumbnails [15:59:17] hmmm. The name must've thrown me in the wrong direction [15:59:45] it doesn't do recursive expansion of template parameters, which means it can't be used in {{click}} [16:00:02] but maybe we can implement that soon [16:00:17] I think I just wanted to code something. ;-) [16:01:03] I'll go steal some logic from ImageMap. [16:02:26] if you don't need framing and floating and captions and what not, you can do it a bit simpler than the way ImageMap does it [16:02:37] basically by following the path you were already following [16:02:43] using $image->transform() [16:04:14] The way I ended up writing it was I ran across ImageLink (from the BizzWiki extensions) and just wanted to do away with his StubManager dependency [16:04:49] and ImageMap seemed to be a bit overboard for what I wanted to do - then I moved on to "how can we make it legal w/o linking to the description page" [16:05:05] Oh, and ImageMagick makes much prettier thumbnails tahn the browser does. ;-) [16:05:38] 03(mod) it.wikiversity - Impossible import pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 (10fede.reghe) [16:06:44] what's StubManager? [16:06:48] 03(mod) Create the group "test-sysop" for the Wikimedia Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10727 +comment (10triyork) [16:06:50] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 (10triyork) [16:07:41] It's crazy [16:08:14] I've been tempted to patch ImageMap myself to recursively expand template parameters, so it can be used in {{click}} [16:08:20] The BizzWiki Guy (JL Dupont?) has his own way of defining hooks [16:08:52] I believe the drive behind StubManager was selective inclusion - it's only supposed to load what's needed [16:09:00] afaik [16:09:44] so like all extensions are actually stubs - that get included by StubManager when they are needed [16:11:30] I like the idea, I just dislike the dependency... that, and I'm not 100% sold on it adding value. [16:14:16] Is there an extension for MediaWiki to use a shared user database? and if not, how do I do it? [16:19:22] 03tstarling * r28353 10/trunk/extensions/FormPreloadPostCache/ (. FormPreloadPostCache.php): Trivial extension to provide form value preloading from GET/POST/cookie. Works on forms emitted by $wgRawHtml or parser extensions. Operates post-parser-cache, co-operates with squid cache. [16:22:21] Is there an extension for MediaWiki to use a shared user database? and if not, how do I do it? [16:22:27] !centralauth [16:22:27] CentralAuth extension allows global/shared accounts between projects. For more information, see [16:22:39] *Jack_Phoenix prefers hacking Database.php [16:22:46] *TimLaqua agrees [16:23:02] ;) [16:23:08] http://internal.pastey.net/74942 <--- Dantman's hack is awesome ;D [16:23:41] Jack_Phoenix, :O [16:23:45] thats magic [16:23:54] ;) [16:24:11] now say Jessica Alba ;) [16:24:16] lol [16:25:26] what are people editing their php in for the project? [16:25:29] what hack? [16:26:02] oh, $wgSharedTables [16:26:23] what would cause my paths to show /index.php5/article_title -- how can i remove index.php5? [16:26:31] not sure how that relates to authentication... [16:26:59] TimStarling: Shared user table [16:27:06] that was there already [16:27:13] in the core? [16:27:14] that's been a core feature for years [16:27:17] wikia uses it [16:27:52] that was one of the two main reasons for introducing the tableName() function [16:28:01] the other one being table prefixes [16:28:18] speaking of Wikia, I was thinking about web2.0 type tagging and rating functionality - is that even possible in a Wiki? I mean, since the content changes, can tags and ratings ever be assigned to an 'article' ? [16:28:22] csarven: This may help... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL ? [16:28:44] saltybeagle thanks [16:29:03] well, you could do what wikia does and not bother with such technicalities [16:29:12] just assign a rating to a page and be done with it [16:29:21] TimStarling: bah. that's cheating. [16:29:43] I don't know if they even bother with a page_id link, or if it's just title-linked [16:29:49] saltybeagle iam using a rewrite. even though /article_title works.. i still see links around with /index.php5/article_title [16:29:50] lol [16:30:08] Well I saw the ratings and was trying to figure out if that could ever really be valid. [16:30:50] 03(NEW) Patch for default Thai year format - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12267 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (manop) [16:30:52] Maybe we could allow people to tag blobs of text [16:31:02] and the tag sticks w/ the blob, not the article. [16:31:18] csarven: might check your localsettings.php file and make sure the path is correct... ? [16:32:00] csarven try http://www.mediawiki/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/LocalSettings.php [16:32:08] ImageMap::render is scary [16:32:15] ;-) [16:32:44] I warned you [16:32:54] alright, what's the best way to start a session which I can share between mediawiki and external scripts. I'm sure someone has done this before. [16:33:08] cookie. [16:34:47] TimStarling: wondering when the developer positions at wikipedia will open? [16:35:23] saltybeagle darkcode thanks [16:35:50] illmasterc: that's an interesting question [16:36:33] illmasterc: are you asking if I'm thinking of applying for a wikipedia job? [16:38:49] no [16:38:50] ha [16:39:04] TimStarling: I am wondering [16:39:20] TimStarling: as I understand, you are already all set [16:41:00] I don't know exactly, I guess the budget for development will have to be reviewed when the fundraising drive is finished [16:41:21] I don't think they're advertising the new positions yet, just the current ones [16:41:39] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings [16:41:48] it's been saying will open soon for a while [16:41:50] that's all [16:42:15] I think this is one of the coolest, biggest impacting projects going... [16:42:42] but I'm sure I'm you feel the same way [16:42:54] ** I'm sure you feel the same way [16:43:46] I do [16:45:24] 03catrope * r28354 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiQueryAllCategories.php ApiQueryAllpages.php): [16:45:24] API: [16:45:24] * Replacing Title::newFromText() by Title::makeTitle(), which is more efficient [16:45:24] * Changing 'AtoZ' to 'ascending' throughout [16:46:50] TimStarling: Very rewarding stuff... what's your suggestion to someone hoping to be a part of the project in the future? [16:48:49] I can't tell you how they'll pick employees, I'm not involved [16:49:11] other than the fact that they'll have to be in the SF area [16:53:22] Tim: thanks for the time, sorry for cluttering the channel... [16:54:57] illmasterc: good luck [16:55:48] how do I save cookies for connecting with the api in PHP [17:01:09] 03(mod) Create the group "test-sysop" for the Wikimedia Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10727 (10robin_1273) [17:06:09] How do I connect to the MediaWiki API in PHP, adn save the cookies I get from logging in? [17:06:15] Can anyone help me with a possible bug? [17:08:08] !ask | s000501 [17:08:08] s000501 : Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [17:09:06] when '$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']' is set to false [17:09:17] so users cannot edit pages [17:09:55] the mediawiki skin looks incorrectly [17:10:04] font are too big, etcetera [17:10:18] you have a UTF-8 BOM in your file. [17:10:32] (that's usually what it is anyway) [17:10:36] !bom | s000501 [17:10:36] s000501 : The byte-order mark (BOM) is a special character added to files by Notepad. It is unnecessary and breaks PHP code. You should not use Notepad to edit PHP files. A possible alternative editor is Notepad++ on Windows or bluefish on Linux. [17:10:37] :p [17:10:59] when i'm investigation the different php files which are rendered i see an extra '  ' [17:11:31] Yeah, switchyour editor's encoding to UTF-8, No BOM [17:11:41] Or in SciTE, it's UTF-8, Cookie [17:12:06] I used Macromedia Dreamweaver, any suggestions? [17:12:15] download Notepad++ [17:12:23] s000501: Try using Notepad++ on Windows or bluefish on Linux.. [17:12:39] Okay. Thanks! [17:12:55] Welcome. [17:20:42] should I change 'line break type' from 'CR LF (Windows)' to 'LF (Unix)'? [17:21:57] 03rfrisar * r28355 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (58 files in 6 dirs): Merged with trunk: 27518-27565 [17:25:48] 03(NEW) Adding 'Proiect' namespace and related discussion namespace to Romanian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12268 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (esborrany) [17:26:15] 03(mod) Adding 'Proiect' namespace and related discussion namespace to Romanian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12268 (10esborrany) [17:26:50] Why doesn't work '$wgLogo = "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/ymcawiki_logo.gif";' in LocalSettings.php? [17:26:59] 03tlaqua * r28356 10/trunk/extensions/Icon/Icon.php: (log message trimmed) [17:26:59] Proper Thumbnail handling [17:26:59] * Uses Image::transform() instead of always [17:26:59] * having the Client resize the image [17:26:59] * ImageMagick makes much prettier thumbnails [17:26:59] * than the browser. ;-) [17:27:01] * Width is always in px - intval() used to [17:27:07] Thanks, TimStarling - the icons look much nicer now. (quicker too. ;-) [17:27:26] In the source of the html page I find -> '/common/images/ymcawiki_logo.gif' [17:27:44] $wgStylePath seems undefined... [17:31:22] s000501: just set it [17:31:39] Does this channel provide help with wiki formatting/syntax, or is this just developer stuff? I've been fighting with some table/pipe syntax and can't figure out how to include this image as a right float w/out including too much space around it. Specifically.... [17:31:46] but shouldn't have it a default value? [17:32:09] the default is false [17:32:14] if( $wgStylePath === false ) $wgStylePath = "$wgScriptPath/skins"; [17:32:19] in Setup.php [17:32:35] which is after LocalSettings.php [17:32:39] Q: I think what I wanted to do won't work with the way I have the table setup. I'd like to include this image local [[Image:COLORAMA-screenshot.jpg]] as a right-floating image next to the name "Colorama" on the bottom of: www.pymolwiki.org. When I try it there's always lots of vertical space included when I add the image -- too much, in fact. [17:33:00] OK, i will set it before my declaration of $wgLogo [17:43:13] I have installed Notepad++ [17:43:23] What kind of format should I choose? [17:43:35] Encode in ANSI? [17:43:45] Encode in UTF-8? [17:43:46] UTF-8 [17:44:15] (so not ANSI without UTF-8 BOM)? [17:45:14] it expects UTF-8 encoding [17:45:57] you should always use UTF-8 for interchange, just make it the default [17:46:46] darkcode: use ASCII + Without UTF-8 BOM [17:47:49] wtf is a UTF-8 BOM anyway? [17:48:19] at the default settings panel it gives: [17:48:22] UTF-8 has a fixed byte order, it doesn't need byte order marks [17:48:27] * UTF-8 or [17:48:37] * UTF-8 without BOM [17:49:19] s000501: use the last one [17:49:35] okay, then i'm going to start over... [17:49:39] :) [17:50:20] SciTE is really wierd w/ UTF-8. It looks for a "Cookie" if it doesn't find a BOM - a cookie is the string "coding: utf-8" in the first two lines [17:50:47] and if it doesn't find a BOM or cookie, it defaults to icky 8-bit. [17:52:00] <[AGK]> hey, does anybody know how to change the default upload summary? [17:52:16] <[AGK]> i.e., the default upload summary when uploading files? [17:52:29] <[AGK]> can't find it as a mediawiki message... [17:53:14] MediaWiki:Uploadtext [17:53:50] <[AGK]> nah, not that [17:54:03] <[AGK]> like setting text that is auto-filled in when uploading an image? [17:54:12] <[AGK]> or, the drop-down boxes of licenses, like on WP? [17:54:28] MediaWiki:Licences [17:54:38] <[AGK]> ah, kk [17:54:51] <[AGK]> cheers ;) [17:56:28] how can I clear MediaWiki's cache, because it not seems to work with the new files... [17:57:09] @search cache [17:57:09] Results: [purge, refresh] [17:57:27] !purge | s000501 [17:57:27] s000501 : To purge a cached page, such as when making changes to the navigation bar, add &action=purge to the end of the page url, or ?action=purge if using Simple URLs. E.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=purge [17:57:48] Hello. [17:57:54] s000501 : To purge a cached page, such as when making changes to the navigation bar, add &action=purge to the end of the page url, or ?action=purge if using Simple URLs. E.g: [17:57:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=purge [17:58:11] derived from this magical mwbot in here :) [17:58:16] *Thanks*! [17:58:23] np [17:58:27] The error disappeared, that gives me hope. [17:58:33] Is this channel for developer info only? Or, can I get help w/ table/pipe syntax, too? [17:58:50] you can always ask [17:58:55] Inchoate: it's support channel [17:58:56] mostly dev stuff. [17:58:56] OK. [17:59:10] I guess I'll ask and see what happens... [17:59:15] good plan. [18:00:15] @search table [18:00:15] Results: [bizzwiki, deleteuser, download, farm, hidetoc, multiplewiki, release, session, uploads] [18:00:17] I run www.pymolwiki.org. I just learned the pipe syntax for tables last night. I can't figure out how to get this local image [[Image:COLORAMA-screenshot.jpg]] to float right inside the table w/o having tons of space above/below the image. The image should go to the right of "Colorama" toward the bottom of hte page. Ideas? [18:02:07] Inchoate: what image? [18:02:11] oh, nvm. I see. [18:02:45] anyone want to help me tweak my infobox that won't work quite right ;( [18:02:49] When I insert it -- I get lots of space to the top and bottom -- it's floating but it's like "clear:both" is set. "clear: none" didn't help, either. [18:04:09] Inchoate: well, if you put the image inside the same cell or row as "Colorama", it'll expand the size of that row/cell to fit the image [18:04:13] making a bunch of whitespace [18:04:14] hi, was just trying to install the math stuff, but there is no math directory in my installation... where can I obtain the required files? [18:04:28] domas: i see your blog and some topics about google mysql 5 patches [18:04:42] how features include and why do you use it? [18:05:07] TimLaqua: OIC. So, the way I have it, I cannot do what I want, then. Right? [18:05:13] I'd have to -- not use tables? [18:05:16] lemme see if I can hack it over there [18:05:27] OK, thx... [18:06:24] I should probably update from 1.9.0, too. I'll check the ChangeLog and see if it's a good idea. [18:10:47] Inchoate: umm... how about that? [18:11:31] Close... very close. I'd like just it about 150 px in size. [18:11:41] That was quick. (Reading your changes) [18:11:45] k [18:12:53] Oh, can it float all the way right? [18:13:03] Hmm, I can probably figure it out.. lemme' see... [18:13:16] eh, you don't wanna float it, one sec. [18:13:29] How do I connect to the MediaWiki API in PHP, and save the cookies I get from logging in? [18:13:33] Inchoate: [[Image:COLORAMA-screenshot.jpg|right]] (AFAIK) [18:14:03] OIC what you did. You just made the line into 2 tables. Nice. [18:14:24] Inchoate: take a look [18:14:33] Oh, one table and one image.. [18:14:36] looking. [18:14:59] Beautiful. I'll add a caption. [18:15:06] That's exactly what I wanted, thank you. [18:15:11] VasilievVV: Thanks. [18:15:14] Inchoate: if you change the width of the pic, make sure to change the width of it's cell. [18:15:50] Inchoate: it's not right aligned, the right cell is just the exact size of that picture - that's why it's over there. [18:17:55] OIC. Brilliant. [18:19:25] How do I connect to the MediaWiki API in PHP, and save the cookies I get from logging in? [18:21:48] Hmm.. [18:22:32] I'm trying to add a caption w/o the white bg floating through... |frame and |thumb add some white border... And just piping in a caption doesn't seem to work. [18:23:03] Just type it below the picture. [18:23:04] ;-) [18:23:41] Just noticed that. :-) heh [18:23:43] Thanks!! [18:24:24] Anyone here knowing the MediaWiki API? [18:24:24] Again, thanks for your time. Ciao. [18:27:39] domas: i found this https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/MySQL_server_tools [18:30:29] http://us.php.net/manual/en/features.cookies.php [18:31:44] How can I display a system message in an article? [18:33:44] 03rfrisar * r28359 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/includes/SpecialUserlogin.php: Line 281 - return self::TOO_SHORT [18:41:55] DigitallyBorn: {{MediaWiki:System message name}}. [18:43:10] ïîìîãèòå! [18:43:21] êàðî÷, index.php5 íå îáðàáàòûâàåòñÿ ïîêàçûâàåò [18:43:29] define('MW_INSTALL_PHP5_EXT', 1); [18:43:29] require './index.php'; [18:43:29] ?> [18:43:52] jurasiks: use UTF-8! (C) [18:43:53] êàê âêëþ÷èòü php5? [18:44:09] is there a (semi-)stable page-permissions extension that allows multiple group selections and can protect from read as well? [18:44:35] @search read protection [18:44:35] Results: [] [18:44:35] Vasiliev a kak v Opera vibrtat'? [18:44:46] mne nado zapustit' php5 [18:44:49] guys [18:44:53] can u help me [18:44:59] jurasiks: ne znayu [18:45:04] 03tstarling * r28360 10/trunk/extensions/FormPreloadPostCache/FormPreloadPostCache.php: fix encoding, etc. [18:45:10] !ask | jurasiks [18:45:10] jurasiks: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [18:46:04] i run config/index.php there is link to index.php5 but i see just define('MW_INSTALL_PHP5_EXT', 1); [18:46:05] require './index.php'; [18:46:05] ?>,... my hosting have PHP5+ how can i ran it? or some? [18:46:32] jurasiks: try index.php [18:46:45] redPHP 5.0.0 or higher is required. If PHP 5 is available only when PHP files have a .php5 extension, please navigate to index.php5 to continue installation. ABORTING. [18:47:46] jurasiks: what does phpinfo() says? [18:48:05] sec [18:49:20] Vas' ls prishlo? [18:50:58] 03(NEW) FileSearchIndexer.php code review - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12269 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; (alno) [18:56:41] 03(NEW) GlobalAuth.php code review - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12270 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (alno) [18:57:01] 03rfrisar * r28361 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (92 files in 6 dirs): SVNMERGE from trunk: 27672-27759 [18:57:09] 03(mod) FileSearchIndexer.php code review - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12269 +need-review +patch (10raimond.spekking) [19:01:29] 03(mod) GlobalAuth.php code review - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12270 +need-review +patch (10raimond.spekking) [19:04:09] *VasilievVV kicks CIA-6 [19:04:09] ow [19:05:21] when you add a custom namespace, is it standard that the first tab has the same name as the namespace [19:06:11] Dvyjones: I would assume so. [19:07:44] 03vasilievvv * r28363 10/trunk/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.i18n.php: Oops... [19:09:15] On one of our custom namespaces, the first tab got its name from another namespace, and all pages are getting n the talk namespace (the talk tab is marked). How do I fix it? http://www.connect-utb.com/wiki/index.php/Java:ArrayList [19:09:24] hello channel [19:10:16] ist Hello World :P [19:10:20] its * [19:10:39] I've got a question about my mediawiki install. I want to make myself and admin/sysop but i currently dont have an account with the permissions to do so. I do have shell access, and db access to the mediawiki server. [19:12:03] 03siebrand * r28364 10/trunk/extensions/ (18 files in 15 dirs): [19:12:03] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [19:12:03] * remove trailing whitespace [19:12:24] momelod: see on maintenance scripts [19:12:30] on /path/maintenance [19:12:33] i found a hint on google: UPDATE user SET user_rights='bureaucrat,sysop' WHERE user_name='momelod' but my user's table doesn't have the user_rights feild. [19:12:35] run php for it [19:14:11] sorry, im not clear on what u mean [19:14:37] i do have a maintainance folder under the mediawiki's document root [19:14:41] momelod: USAGE: php createAndPromote.php [--bureaucrat|--help] [19:14:50] on your wiki path [19:14:52] thanks [19:14:53] 03tstarling * r28365 10/trunk/extensions/FormPreloadPostCache/FormPreloadPostCache.php: Have to use loadHTML/saveHTML, to preserve e.g. [19:15:18] php ./maintenance/createAndPromote.php --bureaucrat user pass [19:17:04] okay, and if that user already exists? [19:17:17] uhmmm [19:17:22] a second [19:18:07] im using ldap for authentication, and my username comes from there [19:18:13] i dont want to have to use a new username [19:18:34] yeah [19:18:38] Hi! Has anyone tried to make Apache and mod_auth_mysql to authenticate from Mediawiki's database? I'm trying to make svn (over https) to use Mediawiki's users and passwords. The problem is that mod_auth_mysql does'n seem to be able to check the given password against the passwords hash in db. [19:18:41] is with sql commands [19:18:46] but im looking for it [19:19:02] much appreciated [19:19:50] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Setting_user_rights_in_MediaWiki [19:19:54] momelod [19:20:11] yes [19:20:16] i tried that already [19:20:32] but my user table doesnt have the user_rights feild [19:20:41] INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'bureaucrat'); [19:20:42] INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'sysop'); [19:20:55] and this is mediawiki 1.11 [19:21:19] In the example below substitute 1 with the user ID number from the user table. [19:21:27] change 1 for user_id [19:21:32] ahh [19:21:35] ill try that [19:21:49] read doc if you want to learn and get help here [19:22:13] if you ask many time for noob questions people will ignore you [19:22:38] momelod: you can find many information on meta.wikimedia.org [19:22:44] mailing list [19:23:37] mwusers.com/forums [19:23:53] with these 3 and a little irc help you can use mediawiki very well [19:24:36] thank you very much [19:24:41] that worked perfectly [19:24:55] Is this fixed already? (r28354) 7 PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getPrefixedDBkey() on a non-object in /var/www/w/includes/Parser.php on line 5266 [19:25:06] momelod: a mandar ;-P [19:25:18] momelod: at your service :-D [19:35:24] 03yaron * r28366 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/ (19 files in 5 dirs): New extension [19:40:02] hmm, magic words are not caught in templates ? [19:41:20] Is there an easy way to access mediawiki session info from another .php script? [19:41:57] I must be missing something with how sessions are started within mediawiki... I'm trying to duplicate it, but not having much luck. [19:43:14] any thoughts on the best MW function to sanitize input for an alt attribute in an tag? [19:43:45] htmlspecialchars? [19:44:03] i want to enable the
and tags on my mediawiki, how can I do it? [19:44:14] saltybeagle: you just need the right session ID [19:44:20] the rest should be pretty straightforward [19:44:47] TimStarling: i'll give 'er a shot - does the title attribute convert htmlspecialchars or does it want escaped (slashed) input? [19:45:02] ... spose I could just go look it up. ;-) [19:45:44] nobody? if i can allow the writing of
and .... [19:46:00] 03yaron * r28367 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_Filter.php: Small fix for SMW 1.0 [19:47:46] TimLaqua: slashed? [19:47:55] don't you know HTML at all? [19:48:33] sure, I know it, I just never had a reason to put an apostrophe inside an alt tag before [19:49:56] http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.2 [19:50:37] can anybody help me? [19:50:47] perfect, ty. [19:51:04] absss: have you tried the FAQ? [19:52:30] vasilii tut? [19:53:05] guys, where ar eu from/ [19:53:23] yes but i didn't find anything :( [19:53:37] what about this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_can_I_allow_use_of_HTML_tags.3F [19:54:09] it's a different problem... i need to use
and in a template [19:54:40] so SecureHTML is useless, i can't lock all pages [19:55:21] 03(mod) Adding 'Proiect' namespace and related discussion namespace to Romanian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12268 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [19:56:04] i need to enable only two tags... this isn't wrote on FAQs [19:56:21] why? [19:58:00] too late, I'm going to bed [19:58:06] read includes/Sanitizer.ph [19:58:08] p [19:58:13] because i need to use
in a template... i need to lock also the page including the template to show html code [19:58:21] ok thanks [19:59:09] something to do with edit section again... [19:59:21] doh. [20:02:16] Is anyone familier with the #pagetitle parser function from PageFunctions extension? [20:02:58] for some reason the parser function only works with action=purge... [20:03:03] any reason why that should be? [20:05:55] 03rfrisar * r28368 10/branches/ApiEdit_Vodafone/ (54 files in 7 dirs): SVNMERGE from trunk: 27762-27834 [20:05:57] 03tlaqua * r28369 10/trunk/extensions/Icon/ (Icon.i18n.php Icon.php): [20:05:57] * Added i18n support [20:05:57] * Sanitized alt attribute text [20:09:20] russkie est'? nushan help! [20:17:22] i have trouble after installation! install ok, but aftert i send LocalSettings.php to main folder - server show error... who can help me? [20:17:37] 03siebrand * r28370 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): Add support for extension Icon [20:17:59] jurasiks, :) [20:18:07] elya rus? [20:18:10] hola @all [20:18:14] jurasiks: what's the error? [20:18:28] i dont know... where ca i find error logs? [20:18:36] jurasiks, davai poprobuj, ruski panimaju, mediawiki posmotrim [20:18:46] kinodata.ru [20:18:51] smotri [20:19:13] i dont know where find error logs [20:19:19] jurasiks: /var/log/apache2/ [20:19:24] ruskui ne nada ;-) [20:19:28] *qsheets wonders if jamasi is around... [20:20:01] i install on my hosting! not on my comp [20:21:33] jurasiks: depends on host [20:25:52] jamasi_: you there? [20:28:35] hi [20:29:00] i had a quick glance at the user doc but couldn't find whay i was looking for [20:29:33] i just wanted to know if it'd be possible to add some kind of 'new' or 'updated' tag next to a filename reflecting a page status [20:29:41] would it be possible in some way? [20:30:57] hi [20:31:06] let's say i have an index page where i list different documents, which might get added or updated and i want users to see the status very quickly just by looking at this list [20:31:08] 03siebrand * r28371 10/trunk/extensions/ (14 files in 14 dirs): [20:31:08] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [20:31:08] * remove trailing whitespace [20:31:11] i'm trying to use eaccelerator with mediawiki 1.11.0 [20:31:33] not really working so far, cound anybody help a bit? [20:31:36] could* [20:42:17] I'm making a template that extends a template, do I have to "pass-through" the variables? Is there a way to do it automatically? [20:55:37] On one of our custom namespaces, the first tab got its name from another namespace, and all pages are getting n the talk namespace (the talk tab is marked). How do I fix it? http://www.connect-utb.com/wiki/index.php/Java:ArrayList [20:57:12] Dvyjones: you also have to define the talk namespace [20:57:42] wich numbers did you put for theses namespaces ? [20:59:33] On one of our custom namespaces, the first tab got its name from another namespace, and all pages are getting n the talk namespace (the talk tab is marked). How do I fix it? http://www.connect-utb.com/wiki/index.php/Java:ArrayList [21:00:06] Dvyjones: did you get my previous message ? [21:00:38] no [21:00:48] ive had some network problems [21:01:11] Dvyjones: you also have to define the talk namespace [21:01:11] wich numbers did you put for theses namespaces ? [21:01:39] OK [21:01:59] I see [21:04:25] 100 => "PHP", 101 => "PHP_talk", 102 => "Java", 103 => "Java_talk", 104 => "VB.NET", 105 => "VB.NET_talk", 106 => "HTML", 107 => "HTML_talk" [21:05:30] (translate the "_talk") [21:07:42] odd numbers are talk, and even article, I know, but I am not the one who set up the namespaces, so I'll tell him what to do [21:10:02] once it's fixed, you'll need to rename the page that are in Java, VB.NET and HTML namsespaces [21:11:40] How did you get the numbers for namespaces? [21:13:40] go to http://www.connect-utb.com/wiki/index.php/Spesial:Alle_sider and select the namespace in the box, then click OK and you see the number in the URL [21:14:15] 03siebrand * r28372 10/trunk/extensions/ (16 files in 16 dirs): [21:14:15] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [21:14:15] * remove trailing whitespace [21:14:57] 03siebrand * r28373 10/trunk/extensions/ (16 files in 15 dirs): [21:14:57] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [21:14:57] * remove trailing whitespace [21:15:11] aah [21:15:33] 03(mod) Extension stylesheets should be loaded before any others - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10184 (10N/A) [21:23:54] Is JL Dupont ever in here? [21:24:48] never [21:24:58] k [21:26:10] extension pro ;) [21:26:34] ;-) he created his own little BizzWiki world [21:26:55] I'd try it if it wasn't based off of hacks :P [21:27:09] ;) [21:27:15] try what? [21:27:19] BizzWiki [21:27:43] don't know much about it other than his ExtensionManager and StubManager framework [21:27:48] which drive me crazy. [21:27:52] yeah [21:27:56] O_O [21:28:19] all I know is that you have to pretty much download a new /includes directory because everything is so hacked up [21:28:37] that... and I too do not like dependancies on other extensions [21:28:46] agreed. [21:28:58] but - I also hate re-writing other people's extensions [21:29:25] yeah [21:29:48] I have a feeling I'm writing an entirely pointless set of parser functions right now... but it's fun so I don't mind [21:30:01] eh, I had fun w/ Icon - TimS earlier pointed me towards how to use the MW thumbnailing, which makes mich prettier icons. [21:31:24] *Skizzerz is writing RightFunctions, a set of (now four) parser functions that let you check either your own or other's rights and include them on a page. The only useful application in it I currently see is in like {{user}} or something, where you only display a "block" link to those that can block, for example [21:32:35] {{#isallowed}} should be trivial to write [21:33:15] it is trivial to write ;) [21:33:30] although I think I named it #ifallowed... meh [21:33:47] 03siebrand * r28374 10/trunk/extensions/ (14 files in 13 dirs): [21:33:47] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [21:33:47] * remove trailing whitespace [21:37:22] Is jamasi_ back yet? [21:38:06] 03siebrand * r28375 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [21:38:06] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [21:38:06] * remove trailing whitespace [21:59:29] 03(mod) robots.txt changes for de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 (10N/A) [22:12:25] 03(NEW) GIS/transversemercator.php code review - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12271 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: GIS; (alno) [22:27:54] anyone know a good hook to chop up RecentChanges output? [22:28:47] <[CodeWik]Loki> hey all.. we have a minor problem on our wiki-site which we need to fix asap, but we are kinda confused [22:29:42] <[CodeWik]Loki> anyone in? [22:29:56] <[CodeWik]Loki> Regarding Custom Namespaces.. we screwed up a bit [22:30:12] hmm ;) [22:31:15] <[CodeWik]Loki> We used the wrong namespace ID on some of our namespaces, and we need to know how to edit the namespace ID without loosing the content [22:31:18] <[CodeWik]Loki> anyone? [22:32:54] namespace id? [22:33:12] the name of the custom namespace? [22:33:39] <[CodeWik]Loki> namespace ID: 100 [22:33:54] <[CodeWik]Loki> and the name is: php [22:34:12] <[CodeWik]Loki> and the other one is ID 101, and name java.. while we want 101 to be php discussion [22:34:40] Do you have many articles in java? [22:35:09] <[CodeWik]Loki> quite a few [22:36:28] <[CodeWik]Loki> anything we can do? [22:36:41] TimLaqua: after looking at SpecialRecentchanges.php, I don't see any hooks in the output process whatsoever [22:37:24] i'll just write a JS hack. [22:37:41] I want a bright red highlight for lines that have unpatrolled edits [22:37:47] or... we can add in a hook there to the next revision of mw xD [22:37:58] naaa, I think JS is sufficent. [22:38:01] mmk [22:38:15] though, I did want a RecentChanges hook to play w/ the RSS output... [22:38:27] [CodeWik]Loki: Well, yes [22:38:31] 'course I'd pry want that hook inside the RSS class [22:39:17] [CodeWik]Loki: You could create the 102 namespace, move all the pages in 101 to 102, and then delete the redirects. [22:39:30] Or you could manipulate the namespace ids in the DB directly, if you're brave [22:40:32] <[CodeWik]Loki> hmm.. [22:44:54] <[CodeWik]Loki> just made a DB backup.. [22:45:14] <[CodeWik]Loki> what exactly would we have to manipulate in the DB? [22:46:25] i have some sql that worked for me, trying to dig it up [22:49:12] <[CodeWik]Loki> think its working.. [22:49:21] <[CodeWik]Loki> we changed all the 101 namespace page-entries.. changed to 140.. [23:04:52] 03siebrand * r28376 10/trunk/extensions/ (13 files in 13 dirs): [23:04:52] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [23:04:52] * remove trailing whitespace [23:05:07] 03(NEW) Allow from parameter on Special:Unwatchedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12272 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (waldir) [23:06:25] *Werdna looks for bri [23:06:27] on [23:08:45] 04(REOPENED) "/dmirror/http/en.wikipedia.org/w/" added to article text - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12217 +comment (10nospam) [23:25:02] 03siebrand * r28377 10/trunk/extensions/ (10 files in 8 dirs): [23:25:02] * complete $wgExtensionCredits [23:25:02] * remove trailing whitespace [23:25:38] <[CodeWik]Loki> I have a question here.. [23:25:46] just ask [23:25:50] <[CodeWik]Loki> right now i got a wiki up and running in Norwegian.. [23:25:57] <[CodeWik]Loki> containing a good number of articles etc.. [23:26:15] <[CodeWik]Loki> how would i proceed in order to make a english one as well, sharing the same source? (at least i think this is possible)? [23:28:01] I have a private wiki; I want to add a table with the red background for no and the green background for yes. Where do I set this template? [23:28:28] ok, make a template {{no}} and {{yes}} in the template namespace [23:28:37] where's that [23:28:40] (aka Template:No, and Template:Yes) [23:29:08] where's the template namespace [23:29:50] just type Template:No in your search bar, and hit Go [23:29:54] then edit the page [23:30:29] !templates | nathan [23:30:29] nathan: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [23:30:42] it just says there is no page titled template:no [23:31:02] and there's no edit button; but it does let me make one [23:31:08] yes, that's expected, does it then have a link that says "edit this page"? [23:31:24] there's create this page [23:31:36] yeah, that one [23:31:39] alright thanks I think I understand it [23:31:43] so just put the css in here? [23:31:54] put the table code in there [23:32:34] (which includes the background color for the cell [23:32:45] bgcolor="#000000" ? [23:34:10] yes [23:34:51] it literally translated it, instead of saying no with a red background it says bgcolor... [23:36:30] wait wait my brain is farting I think I understand [23:36:53] I have to put the actual cell there [23:37:24] yes [23:37:36] how do I do that? I tried No [23:37:56] I suggest you look at the top link that mwbot provided to see how the templates work, and I'll get you a link for wiki markup [23:39:07] nathan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [23:41:37] got it now thanks! [23:43:34] Hullo #mediawiki , any techs around atm? [23:43:57] nopey [23:44:20] bah [23:44:53] why? O_O [23:45:37] heh, just some questions I wanted to ask them...Catherine didn't know, and mentioned MW techs might. [23:46:00] I'll catch one eventually [23:46:03] ;) [23:46:11] well, what's the question anyway? ;) [23:46:12] regarding? ;) [23:46:16] yeah [23:46:18] one of us non-techs might know [23:47:21] Unblocking a single IP from a range block done in Italy :P I've gotten several annoying emails from several different established users who, when living/traveling/etc in Italy, they can't edit. [23:47:29] :P [23:48:19] oh GHe|BUSY did it :P [23:48:29] ... [23:48:45] lol [23:48:46] Grey-man: mobile users? [23:49:07] some, others were just temporary [23:49:53] do you know the actual range? [23:50:01] 84 /16 ranges [23:50:07] ya, per GHe [23:50:09] yeah [23:50:18] 5 million + addresses [23:50:37] or 65,000 :S [23:50:44] brion (n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER) 1d 4h 5m [23:50:46] oops [23:50:50] I have the emails somewhere, if that info is relevant [23:50:50] 5 505 024 [23:50:57] heh [23:51:06] lucky that wasn't a password.. [23:51:28] :-) [23:51:48] *GHe|BUSY blames Windows. [23:51:57] use CIDR calculators :P [23:52:01] *Grey-man blames GHe [23:55:26] !seen brion [23:56:11] Werdna: last seen 2 days (8h 22m 55s) ago [23:56:16] I know [23:56:24] yay for /ns info [23:56:24] wait, where'd you get that from? [23:56:32] unilinky seems to be playing up [23:56:33] /msg nickserv info brion [23:56:34] ah, /ns info [23:56:40] ;) [23:56:58] hmm.. where's he been? [23:56:59] since seenserv reports people trying to imposter as that nick as well... [23:57:05] Grey-man: you are probably blocking a whole slew of dynamic IPs, including some appliction proxies from cellphone carriers. are you sure you need a /16? [23:57:48] It was to block a serial vandal...so, very sure, ya [23:57:49] Grey-man: what's the question? [23:58:01] *Werdna <-- dev [23:58:09] Werdna > "Unblocking a single IP from a range block done in Italy :P I've gotten several annoying emails from several different established users who, when living/traveling/etc in Italy, they can't edit." [23:58:27] You can't unblock a single IP if it's blocked by a rangeblock [23:58:45] and there usually isn't a good reason to [23:59:17] ya, that's what I thought, but I thought I'd get it straight from the horses mouth, per se, before leaving the subject be