[00:04:35] When I upload as WikiSysop an picture from url as WikiSysop I get an error: [00:04:46] "Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in /customers/ymcawiki.org/ymcawiki.org/httpd.www/nl/w/includes/SpecialUpload.php on line 165" [00:06:52] s000501: you don't have CURL support installed in PHP then [00:07:43] So I should use normal upload. And not too demanding. :-) [00:31:05] is it correct that we have MediaWiki:Monobook.css MediaWiki:Common.css MediaWiki:Monobook.js but not MediaWiki:Common.js ? [00:46:13] hippietrail: we have a MediaWiki:common.js [00:47:11] wknight8111: yes it seems all 4 can exist but whether they actually do is dependent on each wiki... [00:50:58] shouldn't there also be MediaWiki:Cologneblue.js ? [01:00:53] man i can't figure out the mediawiki javascript files for skins other than monobook )-: [01:01:31] hippietrail: can you use MediaWiki:Common.js? [01:02:08] i can use it. i'm just trying to figure out the order and precedence of other scripts on my own site [01:03:10] generally it's common scripts -> skin scripts -> MediaWiki:blah.js -> user js [01:03:33] (with each later one taking precedence over the previous ones) [01:04:27] hmm when i create MediaWiki:Standard.js or MediaWiki:Cologneblue.js and switch to that skin and refresh the cache i don't get the js loaded [01:05:23] *Skizzerz doesn't know if standard.js or cologneblue.js are real messages... [01:06:14] on wikipedia they have deprecated messages, on my wiki there's nothing [01:06:58] wikipedia is more than likely running a different version of mediawiki than you are [01:07:20] i did an svn up last night... let me do it again now... [01:07:53] but, I really don't know much about how js works with other skins [01:08:01] no worries thanks anyway [02:33:20] i am in need of someone with mad css skillz [02:35:12] Landlord: I can help you [02:35:18] for I AM THE TANTRIC AVENGER! [02:35:19] :D [02:35:25] omg [02:35:28] *Landlord is impressed [02:35:41] Hey folks... any word on the 1.12 release? Any day now? [02:36:53] any way now [02:36:55] I shall be released [02:36:58] I see the light come shinin' [02:37:02] From the west unto the east [02:38:03] can you srsly help me or are you just being silly [02:40:37] can we get a kick, up in the house? [02:54:31] No one has an idea if 1.12 is coming in the next couple days? [03:36:09] anyone know of an integration method/extension for wordpress or phpbb3? [04:02:47] why is it, that when I direct connect to my wiki with a literal IPv6 address, it doesn't work? [04:30:17] hippietrail, MediaWiki:Foo.js works only for Monobook-based skins. This is part of the reason Common.js was introduced. [04:30:38] MichaelJE2, IPv6 support may be patchy. I think AaronSchulz worked on that at some point, you could maybe ask him. [04:32:08] k, it's not that important.. I don't have native IPv6 in the first place, I'm using a broker [04:47:18] How do you grant sysop group to a user in mw? [04:47:33] Special:Userrights [04:47:52] thanks [05:54:59] MichaelJE2: what doesn't work? [06:09:37] i have x-cache, does mediawiki cooperate with it automatically or do i have to set some settings as with APC? [06:36:47] re [06:47:25] garding [06:47:28] :P [07:02:16] :) [07:09:33] siebrand: why are you inventing version numbers for extensions that have never been released? [07:12:47] eh? [07:13:01] I said siebrand, not TimLaqua [07:13:22] true enough [07:17:51] yay Tim :) [07:20:28] Timmy Tim Tim. [07:21:43] *TimStarling is in a bad mood... [07:22:33] anyone spreading excessive joy will be banned [07:32:52] you just banned a steward :( [07:35:30] I'm sure she'll get over it [08:00:33] <_wooz> lo [09:08:36] i'm wiki addicted soon [09:08:37] Oo [09:20:08] CIA-6 broken again? [11:44:23] is there a way to call any of the maintenance scripts without a shell account? [11:44:24] I tried enabling the executable bit and insert the script's URL into the browser address bar, but it wouldn't work. [11:47:02] the scripts are protected from being executed from within the context of the webserver [11:47:17] i think this is done in commandline.inc [11:47:43] commandLine.inc [11:48:02] PunkRock: so if I change this, I will be able to call scripts in webserver context? [11:48:30] maybe. but ... this makes the script callable by everone. [11:48:42] with any parameters. thats .... scary [11:49:12] PunkRock: I agree and I don't like it either. But there's gotta be a way to execute scripts w/o a shell. [11:50:45] PunkRock: what adjustments do I need to make in commandLine.inc exactly? [11:50:50] i don't know if it works... you have to test it. and you should protect your directory. [11:50:58] your maintenance dir. [11:51:20] PunkRock: like with .htaccess? [11:51:47] protecting via chmod obviously wouldn't work. [11:52:27] ges. [11:52:29] yes. [11:52:47] yes yes. [11:53:03] ok thanks. [11:53:06] protecting with .htaccess is a good idea and yes chmodding it will not work. [12:00:12] there are php shells that can run the scripts [12:00:34] but it still depends on your host's setup whether you can actually get them to run or not [12:01:18] PunkRock: ok I made the adjustments but I still get "You don't have permission to access /wiki/maintenance/rebuildMessages.php on this server."... [12:01:30] although I've enabled executable bits on all path objects [12:02:16] zocky: I'll look that up [12:09:41] is there a possibility to change the textcolor without using html tags? [12:09:53] (if not, is this feature planned in future releases?) [12:13:37] aton`, you can also use [12:13:54] or you can make your own templates for that [12:28:50] zocky, template is a good idea, thanks! [12:38:45] zocky, i am having problems creating the template, do you have an example by any chance? [13:31:34] Hi, how can I change the left bar links in Monobook skin? [13:41:23] moin moin [13:41:25] DaniloMendes: go to "MediaWiki:Sidebar" (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar for more info) [13:41:37] hi [13:42:08] can somebody tell me how to remove "help" and "donation" link in the main navigation? [13:42:49] dont know how to remove its "easy", but you can edit the specialpages.php to remove the links [13:43:46] find . -name 'specialpages*' doesnt deliver any result [13:44:05] does anyone know how many (custome) namespaces wiki can use? (its mw 1.9.0) [13:44:06] !sidebar | habinet [13:44:06] habinet : To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [13:45:29] ok, thanks, really great [13:45:42] found that earlier but didn't see the edit button :/ [13:46:06] thanks again [13:46:10] appreciate your help [13:55:17] does anyone know how many (custome) namespaces wiki can use? (its mw 1.9.0) [13:55:35] many [13:56:02] it's an int in php and mysql. so i would expect the max to be at least 2^31 [13:56:35] unless you want to retain your sanity, then the limit is like 100 [13:56:55] ok, namespaces are managedd in an php array, which are pretty inefficient, so having an array with that many entries is likely to fill you RAM completely.... [13:57:27] yea, 100 sounds managable by hand. the system can probably deal with 10000, or 100000 even... [13:58:10] the problem is: [13:58:18] 2^31 of anything is likely to fill your RAM isn't it? [13:58:20] since last update im using more then 100 custom namespaces [13:58:38] now i've corrupt headers in single namespaces [13:58:52] i think its because of the namespace limitations [13:59:26] i dont want 2^31 .. ithink up to 1000 would be enough [13:59:32] TimStarling: indeed :) [13:59:52] rootingbill: "corrupt headers"? [14:00:34] an arbitrary limit on namespaces sounds unlikely. can't think of anything that would impose it. or cause corruption if there are too many. [14:00:39] otoh, you can never be sure... [14:01:21] sprichst du deutsch? [14:01:34] either maxint in php or the field size in the page table are the limit on namespaces [14:01:37] page_namespace was a tinyint, once upon a time [14:01:44] both should be very large now [14:01:51] if that's how it is in your installation, then you should upgrade it [14:02:07] where do i find page_namespace ?? [14:02:14] it shouldn't be in 1.9 [14:02:15] in the page table [14:02:25] ill take a look [14:02:36] you can change the field definition in any version, it's just a DB operation, nothing to do with MW [14:02:51] okay.. and change to what? which type and how big? [14:03:23] i mean, if his installation is 1.9, the namespace field probably shouldn't be a tyniint [14:04:05] if we think its the corret field [14:04:12] then what could be the problem? [14:04:14] for example: [14:04:31] i'm having custom namespaces, starting with 60001 and ending with 60102 [14:04:44] (its because of customer authenticating) [14:05:07] the cusomer has its own area, where he can write, otherweise he just can read his namespace [14:05:39] it sounds like the problem has nothing to do with the number of namespaces [14:06:08] yeah but then what? there is no change since last update, and there was <100 namespaces.. [14:06:14] since update the problem occures [14:06:28] *before last update [14:07:23] maybe this helps you [14:07:34] if the customer select one page [14:07:43] has anyone a tutorial that explanes how to make a bot ? [14:08:08] in the "user-area" normally is written pagename, discussion and so on [14:08:36] before the problem: he selects the page, there was the pagename and discussion (forbidden for customer) [14:08:55] now: pagename is any other namespace (but not the original) and he has selected discussion [14:09:33] its frustrating me, because i dont find the problem [14:10:36] hello everybody [14:11:16] does anybody know how to easily get the backlink number of a given page? [14:13:14] Duesentrieb, i did the fixes... if you want, you can retry now [14:16:26] the value is int(11) [14:16:33] i think this should be corret or? [14:20:08] rootingbill: according to the mysql manual, the may for INT is 2147483647 (which is 2^31-1) [14:20:19] *max [14:20:26] rigid: i already updated :) [14:20:34] ok thx [14:20:47] then its maybe just a displaying problem [14:21:07] Duesentrieb, really? to rev.14? i did it a few minutes ago :) [14:21:14] ah, no, i had 13 [14:22:28] is there a official (or inofficial) support form for mediawiki? [14:22:31] forum [14:23:10] rootingbill: no. but a mailing list (mediawiki-l) [14:23:11] hello. I am doing some linguistic experiments. for this reason I need to parse wikipedia xml files. [14:23:12] !mailinglists [14:23:12] See http://lists.wikimedia.org/ [14:23:19] anyone experienced with java have any ideas doing this? [14:23:27] thanks im looking at it [14:23:29] sleepyd3v: yes. use mwdumper as a framework [14:23:39] I tried to write my own parser, ant it turned out to be a little diffucult [14:24:05] sleepyd3v: really? the format is pretty trivial. oh wait - parsing what? the XML, or the wikitext? [14:24:34] well I got xml files from wikipedia [14:24:42] sleepyd3v: yeeesss? [14:24:44] so I need to turn the xml to plaintext [14:24:57] there are [[xx]] which are links [14:25:12] and '''yyy''' which are italics [14:25:15] sleepyd3v: you see, the XML wraps page content. the page content itself is wikitext. the question is: *how* plain to you need your text? [14:25:28] ah, ok. so you want to parse wikitext. [14:25:47] rigid: segfault. on next try, "fuse: bad mount point `/tmptmp/wikifs': Transport endpoint is not connected" [14:26:21] Duesentrieb, lol... segfault is nich gut :) musst erst "umount /tmptmp/wikifs" machen vorm nächsten versuch [14:26:22] sleepyd3v: parsing wikitext completely is very hard (because there's no real spec, and no real parser, no real grammar - it's a never endign story). [14:26:52] Duesentrieb, what was the last msg before the segfault? [14:27:05] Duesentrieb, with -v6 [14:27:30] Duesentrieb: it's not that hard, you use the special software written just for that purpose [14:27:38] it's called MediaWiki, you know the one? [14:27:56] woah, what's this "MediaWiki" you speak of? [14:27:57] sleepyd3v: i have javacode for striping (most) markup. it's all part of a half-finished project though... [14:28:06] Duesentrieb: TimStarling: so mwtools wont help [14:28:09] TimStarling, mediawiki is php which is not everybody's darling... [14:28:20] no shit :) [14:28:25] tough [14:28:30] yes I have half finished java code too - but does not work that good [14:28:31] learn it [14:29:32] there's never going to be code to do every conceivable task in every conceivable language [14:30:36] TimStarling, what is it you have to learn with php? [14:30:57] TimStarling, yes there is, they call it "compiler" i.e. "api-bindings" [14:31:33] a compiler isn't much good without code to compile [14:31:59] which is the situation you're in if you want to parse mediawiki wikitext in java [14:32:23] sleepyd3v: weeelll... my code is part of my own diploma project. I can give it to you, but we'll have to sort out proper attribution and stuff. you can contact me via http://brightbyte.de if you like. [14:32:45] *Skizzerz knows a "hacky" way to parse wikitext in forums xD [14:32:46] TimStarling: nice stuff like "extract first sentence, because it should be a definition". very handy for linguists.... [14:35:10] rigid: http://pastebin.ca/814708 [14:37:47] Duesentrieb, tnx... damn libhttp [14:38:00] Duesentrieb, do you have valgrind installed? [14:39:52] Duesentrieb, or gdb? [14:40:34] where i can download servmon? [14:40:44] http://download.wikimedia.org/~kate/monit/ [14:40:45] Duesentrieb, can you do "gdb mediawikifs -f ", type 'r', cause the sefgault and then paste the last line of 'bt' [14:40:51] http://kohl.wikimedia.org/~kate/servmon-1.0.tar.gz [14:40:53] doesnt run [14:44:14] Duesentrieb, ah sry... you need to run "gdb --args mediawikifs -f " [14:44:55] Duesentrieb, but I guess i'll replace the parser by libxml anyway... the crash can only either be in the parser or inside libhttp [14:46:58] anybody of toolserver wiki here? [14:52:54] and wikimedia-tech? [14:55:21] ask at #wikimedia-toolserver or #wikimedia-tech :) [14:55:40] gambit: thanks ;-) [14:55:52] :D [14:56:04] uhmm perhaps im banned from wikimedia-tech [14:56:06] can you enter? [14:56:28] yeah [14:56:55] banned....sure! :-P [14:57:01] yes banned :) [14:57:14] why? i dont enter since many time ago... :-S [14:57:29] they never clear bans ;) [14:57:42] a bad practice... [14:57:42] they have bans from the time of the Dinosaurs :P [15:12:49] On enwiki, they recently added WP: as an alias namespace for Wikipedia:. How do I do that on my own wiki? [15:14:31] carl-m: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgNamespaceAliases# [15:14:38] thanks [15:16:32] rigid: i never used gdb - but if i do what you say, the program just crashes in the debugger too. there's no stack to look at. [15:16:44] Duesentrieb, type "bt" [15:16:53] (gdb) bt [15:16:53] No stack. [15:17:09] wow... [15:17:11] the program dies. how should there be a stack? [15:17:33] Duesentrieb, gdb keeps the program from dying.. it halt's at the segfaulting function call [15:17:34] oh, wait [15:17:44] it didn't segfault [15:17:53] heh :) [15:18:17] it should only exit if there's an error during startup or if it gets unmounted [15:18:33] it was still mounted [15:18:37] that was the problem [15:18:41] ok, got a stacktrace for you [15:18:48] ah ok [15:18:49] the last line looks... bad :) [15:18:54] #12 0x00000000 in ?? () [15:19:02] Duesentrieb, heh :) what is the line before? [15:19:10] #11 0x08051a44 in ?? () [15:19:15] and before that? [15:19:18] #10 0x08051848 in ?? () [15:19:22] #9 0xb7f5a91e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2 [15:19:28] Duesentrieb, hm.. don't you see symbols? [15:19:44] at #2 [15:19:52] bah [15:19:53] pm [15:37:25] can i use transaction-isolation=READ-COMITTED with mediawiki using mysql 5.0.x? [15:39:55] is there a limit on the number of namespaces MW can handle? (256 perhaps?) [15:41:51] can you include webpages from another website inside of a media wiki page? [15:42:16] essentially iframe the content [15:43:10] esm: there is an extension to do this. beware of xss thou. [15:43:49] jamasi: thank you. Yeah I can understand that it can be easily abused. do you know the name of the extension of the top of your head? [15:44:13] iframes as such should (!) be safe against xss. the extension sis too, hopefully. [15:44:48] basically I have a set of Javadocs for a project I'm working on, and I would like to include them on the wiki [15:44:58] esm: does http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Website_in_iFrame sound good? [15:44:58] without having to point users outside the wiki [15:45:01] esm sorry, I don't remember its name. try to search the extensionmatrix [15:45:06] otherwise, use one of the "raw html" features [15:45:07] jamasi: thanks so much [15:45:07] !html [15:45:07] For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [15:45:25] Duesentrieb: oooh nice [15:45:44] awesome thanks all for the help [15:45:48] including mwbot :-) [15:45:58] nice bot [15:46:23] does any of them do protected html sections? [15:46:48] i.e. like and at once [15:46:53] !mysql [15:47:11] zocky: not sure what does, it sounds scary. [15:47:30] zocky: all of the extensions mentioned provide some mechanism to make sure html is protected. [15:47:35] Duesentrieb, it's an old extension that doesn't let non-admins change the bits in tags [15:47:40] asmarin: what are you looking for? [15:48:00] im trying to optimize my.cnf [15:48:13] zocky: that sounds weeewwy scary. sure it realy works and can't be fooled? [15:48:44] i don't think it can be fooled [15:48:48] asmarin: huh - not sure if there's any documentation on this. depends on a lot of factory... [15:48:58] yeah...a lot! [15:49:00] it compares the contents of tags in the current version and what the user is trying to save [15:49:06] asmarin: try to get hold of domas - but be nice, he's got a lot of other stuff to do :) [15:49:23] do you know how to refresh indexes on a innodb database? [15:49:41] we don't [15:49:49] they refresh automatically [15:49:52] asmarin: refresh? drop and recreate i guess. but you can also analyze or optimize tables [15:49:53] when you insert or delete or update records. [15:50:01] surprising, eh? [15:50:01] *Duesentrieb stands back [15:50:14] *domas continues work [15:50:18] :P [15:50:26] :-) [16:12:27] hello [16:17:47] does Special:Disambiguations take a while to propigate? [16:20:42] I am trying to use the show/hide JS technique on meta. Pathoschild says it's "implemented", but it ain't working for me [16:24:01] TimStarling: if PicturePopup does nothing, why did you commit it? [16:25:48] can i use transaction-isolation=READ-COMITTED with mediawiki using mysql 5.0.x? [16:29:59] asmarin, why would you not be able to? It would just change the reliability of transactions. [16:31:25] do you use on your servers? [16:31:31] with mediawiki software? [16:37:43] How do I use it on meta? It doesn't work [16:38:02] *darkcode wonders if Simetrical is around yet [16:38:12] and just as I was thinking it [16:38:25] Oh, that script patch? [16:38:26] Hmm. [16:38:31] ya [16:38:38] Well, I have other things to do first, but if I don't forget I'll get to it today. [16:38:42] :-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [16:39:07] ok [16:39:11] transaction-isolation= read-comitted increase performance a lot! :-OOOOOOOOOOO [16:40:17] It also decreases reliability, as I recall. [16:40:26] Also, I'm fairly sure it only works if you spell it correctly. [16:41:05] VasilievVV: it was in development [16:41:39] la puta ostia! [16:41:44] como corre el joputa! [16:49:53] ʎɐʍ ɓuoɹʍ əɥʇ ʇɪ ʇɐ ɓuɪʞooʅ ʇsnʆ əɹ,noʎ [16:50:05] ;) [16:54:07] How can I disable a namespace? e.g. if you don't need the "help" namespace. I guess it is not possible, but you never know... [16:56:23] SPQRobin: protect it [16:56:41] I mean totally remove [16:57:07] so you see in the tab "page" instead of "help" :-) [16:58:59] I am unable to get anything to show in the Special:Disambiguations page .. I've created the Template:disambig, linked to it in MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage and implemented it on an article [16:59:07] am I missing something? [17:02:11] Can someone take a look at this basic extension thing I did - http://paste2.org/p/10489 - it doesn't work for some reason. The hook works on an extension I used as an example to create mine - but not on mine. [17:08:50] How do I use Template:Hide begin on meta? [17:22:32] is it possible to make different groups and give different groups the ability to see different content? such as Programmers have access to a programers namespace [17:25:41] Gary_Kirk: collapsible NavFrame is NOT implemented on Meta, only collapsible tables [17:26:34] AlexSm:so it doesn't work, or what? [17:28:43] it doesn't work , but you can use collapsible table for the template [17:29:00] how? [17:31:25] Gary_Kirk: I'm not sure if template already exist, but you can read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Collapsing and create one [17:34:40] thanks [17:54:09] Hello, I was hoping someone here would be able to help me. I downloaded the newest version of mediawiki. I am running IIS w/ PHP (in ISAPI mode) 5.2.5 & mysql 5.0.45. When I go to the config index, I am getting this error: "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_NAMESPACE, expecting T_STRING in C:\Inetpub\ITWiki\includes\Namespace.php on line 44". [17:56:37] thats normally a missing ; syntax error [18:00:45] I didn't modify the file at all. I also just glanced over the code leading up to line 44... didn't see any missing ;s [18:00:53] ; s [18:07:16] any thoughts? [18:07:55] well, what /is/ line 44? :) [18:08:38] Damn, I knew I forgot something [18:08:47] class Namespace { [18:09:14] hm, dunno what is wrong with that...it looks relatively sane :) [18:10:30] yeah... [18:12:17] Hey, everyone. I was wondering if I might be able to get a little bit of help :) [18:12:37] Evie:fire away [18:13:39] Welllll... I have a mediawiki installation here (big surprise, considering the channel I came to for help, right?) and I need to use the Special:Upload page to upload a 32mb .mov file. I've run into a few problems and found workarounds for them all, which I can list off. [18:13:56] And I've got to a point where when I try to do the upload, it processes for a second then just returns the same page, blank, with no error message [18:14:37] I've set $wgMaxUploadSize to 100mb for testing this out, set the upload limit to the same in php.ini [18:14:54] $wgFileExtensions has .mov in (and I disabled restricting by extension anyway) [18:15:02] No errors in the apache error log [18:15:30] I've turned on mediawiki debugging and it doesn't seem to output anything, so I don't know if I either did that wrong or there's just no mediawiki error to output [18:15:44] note: it works fine with a smaller, 4mb .mov file :) [18:16:12] I've got to a point where googling about hasn't been revealing anything new for me try. [18:16:31] And so... here I am, seeking further advice. [18:17:09] (yes, I did restart apache after I changed the php.ini setting to allow larger files) [18:19:40] did you do a phpinfo? [18:19:49] page, check what it says max file is in there? [18:22:46] I hadn't, but I just did. 100M [18:23:44] Jezarith: Check the php version [18:23:59] 5.2.5 for me [18:24:11] 5.2.1 for me [18:24:13] evie: you need to touch php.ini file [18:24:22] max_upload [18:24:36] after restart apache [18:24:40] oops [18:24:46] doesnt read all post :-( [18:24:59] and if it is showing 100MB in phpinfo(), then it is the right php.ini [18:25:35] is it max_upload, or upload_max_filesize? [18:25:45] Is there a function for random pictures in mediawiki? [18:25:50] G_SabinoMullane: I'm running php 5.2.5 in IIS 6.0 using ISAPI. [18:28:21] or exist a mod for that? anyone an idee? [18:29:06] I found my problem! :) [18:29:16] post_max_size was only 8m [18:29:21] Thanks, everyone, for trying to help [18:29:42] yeah, I was just looking at that in my config [18:34:44] DrMeissner: try Special:Random/Image [18:35:01] Thanks again for the help! [18:35:43] Thanks ialex, i will try it [18:37:39] DrMeissner: See also: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomImage [18:39:00] Anyone have a clue on my error when config/index.php: "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_NAMESPACE, expecting T_STRING in C:\Inetpub\ITWiki\includes\Namespace.php on line 44"? [18:40:46] too old php? have you modified that file? [18:41:20] 5.2.5 and no [18:46:30] Well, it loads without the Namespace.php, but I don't see anything wrong with it though [18:46:53] Jezarith: No idea, but I will state that "Namespace" was a poor name to choose for the class. [18:47:17] Would it be stupid to run the config script without the include? [18:47:29] Yes. [18:47:42] Does renaming it to "class Gamespace" give the same error? [18:49:19] I don't see any mention that namespace would be reserved word [18:50:04]