[00:00:58] <crichins>	in iw_url for initerlinking wiki's what does BLOB refer to? such as BLOB - 31 B for wikipedia. I don't understand where url is placed... Help me if possible and also is it recommended to have seperate databases if you creating multiple wiki sites?
[00:01:30] <crichins>	If I am unerstanding correctly muliplesites are just namespaces but not quite clear on concept...
[00:01:37] <domas>	BLOB is probably bad idea, varbinary could be better
[00:01:42] <domas>	but it is URL format
[00:02:35] <minute>	MZMcBride: mmh, it is my parser tag causing trouble again.
[00:02:41] <minute>	A problem for tomorrow, however.
[00:02:43] <minute>	Goodnight all.
[00:02:48] <crichins>	oh, okay.. Trying to administer and create an interwiki but can't do much because I don't have command line access
[00:05:45] *Simetrical 	grumbles at commit conflicts
[00:06:49] <CIA-38>	03simetrical * r28530 10/trunk/phase3/ (65 files in 3 dirs): 
[00:06:49] <CIA-38>	* Special:Upload now lists permitted/prohibited file extensions.
[00:06:49] <CIA-38>	* Split ambiguous filetype-badtype message into two new messages, filetype-unwanted-type and filetype-banned-type.
[00:06:49] <CIA-38>	* Bits of minor code cleanup in SpecialUpload.php.
[00:07:05] <Werdna>	65 files?
[00:07:05] *qsheets 	is going to a partay
[00:07:16] <Werdna>	methinks Simetrical left out some part of that commit
[00:07:19] <Werdna>	message
[00:07:36] <Simetrical>	Werdna, language files.
[00:07:43] <Werdna>	ahh
[00:07:45] <Simetrical>	Deleted message = lots of language file changes.
[00:08:39] <Simetrical>	You should know that whenever I touch more than about four files, most of the changes are trivial.  :P
[00:09:26] <multichil>	Werdna : Already afraid of that.
[00:09:30] <Simetrical>	Yay, Gmail freezing Firefox.
[00:09:47] *Simetrical 	glares
[00:09:56] <Werdna>	Simetrical: use prism for gmail
[00:10:04] <Simetrical>	Link?
[00:10:10] *Simetrical 	isn't sure Googling "prism" would be useful
[00:10:21] *Werdna 	checks his delicious
[00:10:29] <Werdna>	I think it's there...
[00:10:45] <Werdna>	http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/
[00:13:20] *Simetrical 	switches to plain HTML view for now . . . good grief
[00:13:44] <CIA-38>	03tlaqua * r28531 10/trunk/extensions/phpbbData/hook_handleFromWikiQuery.php: Added {PAGE_URL_LOCAL_ESCAPED} token replacement for use in toForum query string argument when linking to wiki from phpbb.
[00:13:52] <Simetrical>	You'd wish that Firefox would stop one tab from killing the whole app's speed.
[00:14:08] *Simetrical 	supposes he'll see if FF3 is any better
[00:14:14] *Simetrical 	is tempted to go back to Opera at times like this
[00:14:56] *Werdna 	shows up the purty pie chart on http://test.devanywhere.com/Profile.php/Andrew
[00:15:50] <Werdna>	shows off, rather
[00:15:55] <Simetrical>	Maybe it's not Gmail . . . I closed the tab and it's still running bog-slowly.
[00:16:04] *Simetrical 	restarts Firefox again
[00:16:04] <Werdna>	how long have you had it open?
[00:16:16] <Simetrical>	Barely any time at all, I restarted it before when I was having trouble.
[00:16:34] <Werdna>	ah
[00:16:36] <Werdna>	dodgy addon?
[00:16:38] <Simetrical>	Another program to complain about: gedit, using 430 MB of memory.
[00:16:40] <Simetrical>	Maybe, yes.
[00:16:45] *Simetrical 	restarts gedit, at least that's easily solvable
[00:17:11] <Simetrical>	It gives the unresponsive script dialog on start-up . . . no matter what pages are being loaded.
[00:17:32] <Werdna>	greasemonkey?
[00:17:36] <Simetrical>	No, don't use that.
[00:17:38] *Simetrical 	restarts in safe mode
[00:17:57] <Simetrical>	If I can figure out how . . . Ubuntu goes for minimalistic app menus.
[00:18:53] *Simetrical 	Googles for "Firefox safe mode Ubuntu" using lynx
[00:19:04] <Simetrical>	At least that's still responsive.  ;)
[00:20:51] <crichins>	Still trying to figure to insert into interwiki using phpmyadmin and have correct syntax.. Looking it up via wiki.. Point me in right direction if you would like.. Currently looking at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Help:Setting_up_interwiki_linking 
[00:21:40] <crichins>	I think I got it... Let's try.. Tell me if this makes sense...
[00:23:39] <crichins>	INSERT INTO mw_interwiki  (iw_prefix, iw_url, iw_local) Values ('debconf', 'http://myurl.com/wiki/index.php', '1');
[00:24:31] <Simetrical>	crichins, that looks about right.
[00:26:27] <crichins>	 would url sturcture be correct for when I do a lookup off another wiki that it is going to refrence correctly. Such as [[Debconf:Debian|Debian]] would refrence to http://myurl.com/wiki/index.php?Title=Debian
[00:28:08] <BrokenArrow>	crichins: the interwiki table dump from a WMF wiki starts like this: INSERT INTO `interwiki` VALUES ('abbenormal','http://ourpla.net/cgi/pikie?$1',0,0)
[00:28:46] <BrokenArrow>	so you should have a $1 placeholder where you want the title inserted
[00:29:11] <crichins>	what does the iw_local value do tell if local or not?
[00:30:01] <BrokenArrow>	-- A boolean value indicating whether the wiki is in this project
[00:30:01] <BrokenArrow>	  -- (used, for example, to detect redirect loops)
[00:31:45] <crichins>	BrokenArrow: Okay maybe you can answer my question. I have two wiki that i want to setup but I am wondering if I should have them setup in their own databases or setup in shared database...
[00:32:33] <BrokenArrow>	sorry, I'm not familiar with wiki farms
[00:32:59] <crichins>	Ok, thanks anyway.. Well lets try this and see what happens..
[00:33:02] <Simetrical>	Firefox seems to run a lot faster with stuff like Firebug, Web Developer, and Tamper Data disabled . . .
[00:33:10] <BrokenArrow>	try reading up on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wiki_farm
[00:33:31] <BrokenArrow>	(if you didn't already)
[00:33:58] <crichins>	will doo
[00:34:02] <crichins>	do*
[00:34:39] <Werdna>	Simetrical: Tamper data?
[00:35:09] <Simetrical>	Werdna, lets you inspect and edit post data and other parts of the request when you visit a page.
[00:35:19] <Werdna>	ooh, fun
[00:35:23] <Simetrical>	Handy, too.
[00:35:32] <Werdna>	that was implied.
[00:35:37] <Simetrical>	I experimented with it on one of those Java arcades and found I could set my score arbitrarily.  \o/
[00:35:52] <Skizzerz>	lol, nice
[00:36:03] <Simetrical>	(I contented myself with increasing my top score by one point, when the game only gave scores in like hundred-point increments.)
[00:36:41] <crichins>	BrokenArrow: Looks like I will go the sperate route for now, at least that way If database goes down, whole farm doesn't go down, but maintaing shared information will be a bitch but interwiki linking will help some.
[00:37:17] <BrokenArrow>	crichins: good luck!
[00:37:42] <crichins>	Thanks much
[00:38:21] <Simetrical>	Ugh, Firefox is still acting way too sluggish.
[00:38:26] *Simetrical 	is tempted to apt-get Opera again
[00:44:21] <crichins>	BorkenArrow: Is value 1 in iw_local mean that is part of project or not?
[00:45:55] <q_no>	Hi
[00:46:00] <BrokenArrow>	yes
[00:47:01] <q_no>	Can somebody tell me how to implement a language navi above/below each article (like that one in the mediawikiwiki)?
[00:47:58] <crichins>	Figured it out. 0 means no 1 means yes... Not much of a sql programmer here...
[00:48:43] <BrokenArrow>	night!
[00:51:49] <crichins>	Goodnight.. Must be late for you.. Only 8pm EST for me
[01:02:59] <BlaenkDenum>	is there an extension or some way to link to wikipedia pages from my own mediawiki installatin? I've seen something like [w:House] in other wiki's, is this possible?
[01:17:56] <Skizzerz>	!interwiki | BlaenkDenum 
[01:17:56] <mwbot>	BlaenkDenum : Interwiki links are links between wikis.  For instance, on Wiktionary, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article.  To set up interwiki links, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking> as well as <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki>
[01:18:44] <BlaenkDenum>	thanks
[01:19:04] <Skizzerz>	np
[01:20:49] <Schroeder2>	On the field, from Madison, Wisconsin, performing their 1997 program "The Pirates of Lake Mendota", Drum Corps International is proud to present...THE MADISON SCOUTS!
[01:21:14] <Skizzerz>	?
[01:21:17] <Skizzerz>	wrong channel?
[01:21:30] <Schroeder2>	no
[01:21:41] <Skizzerz>	ok... then that was really random there :P
[01:39:30] <BlaenkDenum>	Skizzerz: so I can already do interwiki links, what you gave me was just to add more right?
[01:39:38] <BlaenkDenum>	because I already have an interwiki table and it has many rows
[01:39:40] <Skizzerz>	yes, or remove them
[01:39:58] <BlaenkDenum>	I just need a wikipedia one, weird, it has tons of wkis except for wikipedia
[01:40:53] <Skizzerz>	it should have wikipedia
[01:41:18] <BlaenkDenum>	nope, no wikipedia
[01:41:44] <BlaenkDenum>	has everything but that, wiktionary, wikiquote, wikimedia, etc.
[01:41:46] <BlaenkDenum>	wiki books
[01:42:08] <Skizzerz>	lol
[01:42:19] <Skizzerz>	the default map needs to be updated anyway
[01:42:26] <BlaenkDenum>	there's a 'wiki' prefix but it's for some random wiki haha
[01:43:30] <BlaenkDenum>	when interwiki linking, can I do [w:Two Words] considering that my prefix is 'w', or must I do Two_Words
[01:43:51] <Skizzerz>	you need two [[
[01:43:58] <Skizzerz>	[[w:Two Words]]
[01:44:06] <Skizzerz>	and you can use spaces
[01:44:09] <BlaenkDenum>	right
[01:44:11] <BlaenkDenum>	oh okay thanks
[01:44:13] <Skizzerz>	it follows internal link syntax
[01:44:51] <BlaenkDenum>	okay, for some reason the w: is showing heh
[01:44:57] <Skizzerz>	yes
[01:45:13] <Skizzerz>	that is to be expected if you didn't specify alternate text
[01:45:16] <BlaenkDenum>	oh I need to, oh okay
[02:29:36] <PatPeter>	Wow there are a lot of people here
[02:30:16] <PatPeter>	CAN ANYONE HEAT ME
[02:30:18] <PatPeter>	HEAR*
[02:31:20] <strategy>	lol
[02:33:07] *Simetrical 	rolls eyes
[23:26:03] <Skizzerz>	\o/
[23:26:03] *amidaniel 	pets mwbot
[23:26:09] *Skizzerz 	pets mwbot too
[23:26:29] <amidaniel>	Alright, hopefully he'll stay up for a while now :)
[23:26:38] <CIA-38>	03siebrand * r28573 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (21 files): 
[23:26:38] <CIA-38>	Localisation updates from Betawiki.
[23:26:38] <CIA-38>	* an, ar, ast, br, ca, cs, el, fi, fr, gl, hsb, kn, la, lb, loz, nds, nl, oc, sdc, sk, sv
[23:35:47] <CIA-38>	03greg * r28574 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/ (archives/patch-protected_titles.sql tables.sql): Yet more cleanup of the protected_titles stuff.
[23:44:51] <Simetrical>	amidaniel, seeking first developer I see to give a second opinion on this.  http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5189
[23:45:07] *amidaniel 	looks
[23:46:34] <amidaniel>	Hmm ... I'd say WONTFIX
[23:46:40] <amidaniel>	More or less agree with your comment there
[23:46:50] <Simetrical>	amidaniel, be my guest.
[23:47:53] *Skizzerz 	isn't a dev... but agrees with Simetrical on WONTFIX too
[23:48:31] *amidaniel 	pokes wikibugs 
[23:52:09] <crichins>	<< Sighs.... If only there were more time in the world to do the things I want tod do.. To much to do and not enough time to do it in...
[23:55:13] <CIA-38>	03siebrand * r28575 10/trunk/extensions/ (44 files in 42 dirs): 
[23:55:13] <CIA-38>	Localisation updates from Betawiki (2007-12-17 0:15 CET).
[23:55:13] <CIA-38>	* Fixes and additions to 42 extensions for bg, br, el, gl, loz, nl, oc, stq