[00:00:19] Thus -- a param driven extension or base language function would be a superior solution. [00:00:28] ... that would do what? [00:01:10] There's an extension out there that allows for pretty full CSS mods to and
but that's a lot more than needed for this. [00:01:30] Yeah, that's not an option for fairly obvious reasons/ [00:01:53] yeah [00:02:11] but links are 1 of the 2 core texts that are used on all pages. [00:02:35] yet you CANNOT format the links without an admins involvement... drove me nuts learning that :-p [00:02:59] Hm? What formatting are you unable to do? [00:03:50] mostly mouseover stuff so folks can tell they are over a link and get rid of the 'blue' link underscore over colored text. [00:04:13] in other words, set the color and decoration for :link, :active, etc... [00:05:14] by having it defined in CSS files... Well, that's 'fixed' definitions and would require them for EACH color combo used (blue background table so use what color decoration links?, red background with what colors?, etc..) [00:06:07] From the questions, I take it my 'problem' statement isn't sufficient.. :-p [00:06:47] *Skizzerz reads upwards [00:07:19] Well, it's more that I don't really see a problem here. Some attributes of document formatting are intentionally left unexposed and outside the control of regular editors. [00:07:52] Link color can be changed quite easily using in-line css .. I imagine (though have yet to test) that text decoration, etc., can be adjusted through similar methods [00:07:53] some classes already exist to remove the underline [00:08:10] But ultimately a wiki should have a consistent "style" that really should only be changed by sysops [00:08:46] grr.... /me kicks windows for failing at making diffs [00:09:05] *amidaniel sends Skizzerz a copy of Ubuntu :) [00:09:23] ooh, now I just need another comp to run it on :P [00:10:30] You could dual-boot :) [00:10:46] Skizzerz: get unxutils [00:11:11] (if you don't feel like going for the full bloat of cygwin) [00:11:44] wtf... I get a 403 trying to dl it [00:12:02] *Skizzerz checks cygwin [00:13:54] amidaniel: actually I outlined it a bit better -- toggled over to show that workaround and no, you can't adjust other attributes as easily as the color. especially not mouseover stuff. [00:15:18] Eleazaros: text-decoration:none; gets rid of the underline. [00:15:31] controlling the color of the underline is a bit tricky though, and differes with the browser [00:16:16] also, makre sure to set all variants: a, a:link, a:active, a:visited, a:hover, ... [00:16:59] yay, full install :P [00:18:43] o.0 where is 1.12 stored in the SVN? [00:19:29] nvm found it [00:20:19] trunk... [00:20:29] amidaniel: text-decoration:none doesn't work when those portions are overloaded by the link properties set via CSS. the control, effectively, overloads the text color only... [00:21:02] I tried the text-decoration out on the template I built for TxtColor control. didn't work at all... [00:21:50] Here's the link to that problem/enhancment request again for Duesentrieb -- you can see what I'm talking about there... [00:21:51] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Link_Appearance_Control [00:22:41] 03(mod) Make rollback a user preference for non-admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 (10cannon.danielc) [00:22:52] 03(mod) Make rollback a user preference for non-admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 +need-review +patch (10cannon.danielc) [00:24:47] erk [00:24:54] *Werdna stays out of that one. [00:25:22] yeah -- read that 'rollback' stuff and went ... "not my game land!!!" [00:25:35] *Werdna is doing Other Stuff [00:27:39] lol, didn't see the - at the beginning of the line so I was wondering why he put a return before the if statement :P [00:28:59] heh :) [00:29:04] *amidaniel has done crazier things :) [00:29:21] *Skizzerz fails at punctuation [00:29:36] every bit of code I right has to have at least one missing comma or semicolon :P [00:30:28] amidaniel: I'm guessing that's a patch for 1.12, but would it work on 1.11 as well? If so, I can test it out [00:31:11] Skizzerz: It might .. not sure [00:31:18] It's a patch to HEAD [00:32:13] ok? [00:32:25] and that means? :P [00:32:51] A patch to the current svn version [00:33:12] Depends upon how competent patch is at merging things, in other words :) [00:33:20] it means "it might work woth 1.11, but probably not" [00:33:28] ah [00:33:45] *Skizzerz would manually apply the patch anyway, not knowing if line numbers are screwed up [00:33:49] amidaniel: well, applying the patch cleanly is one thing. it also has to be compatible logic-wise. [00:34:09] if it uses a function that doesn't exist in 1.11, being able to apply it will not help you :) [00:34:36] true :) [00:34:51] Duesentrieb: True, true :) [00:34:57] HEAD, btw, is the same as trunk. this is a bit confusing. [00:35:24] or... well, it's not quite the same. but it's often used interchangibly. [00:35:38] the latest version is technically the HEAD of trunk, i guess. [00:36:04] yeah :P /me is a noob when it comes to that terminology stuff :) [00:41:55] *amidaniel waves to Eagle_101 [00:45:00] what is the page_touched field for? [00:46:02] Las time the page was edited, isn't it? [00:46:53] Thar we go ... "This timestamp is updated whenever the page changes in a way requiring it to be re-rendered, invalidating caches. Aside from editing this includes permission changes, creation or deletion of linked pages, and alteration of contained templates." [00:46:54] jimbojw: cache invalidation [00:47:10] brion: that's what I thought - thanks much! [00:47:39] sorry I've been a little lax lately contributing to discussions over here - been busy with work :( [00:53:34] i have regressions in 15 test cases since i last ran em [00:54:46] weee [00:54:49] progress :) [00:54:56] looks like someone rewrote the section headers again without updating the test cases [00:55:53] 03(mod) TOC not properly rendered when using $wgMaxTocLevel - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6204 (10brion) [01:02:35] 03(FIXED) Support for Tidy PECL extension is broken for PHP 5 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 +comment (10brion) [01:04:34] 03(mod) Editing tools not showing when trying to edit articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12326 (10wynhill) [01:06:40] 03(mod) Watchlist doesn' t show earlier normal edits when hiding bot edits, own edits or minor edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9790 (10brion) [01:08:39] 03(mod) Add "hide minor edits" option to Special:Contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9605 (10brion) [01:15:57] 03(mod) Time based anti-vandalism feature - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4397 (10brion) [01:22:28] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10brion) [01:26:25] if im installing mediawiki, which copyright/licence option should i choose? [01:28:53] JohnMichael: up to you. What's it going to be used for? [01:31:45] students [01:31:55] posting and sharing information [01:32:26] well, it doesn't really matter [01:32:45] any license on the list will basically mean "You can copy stuff from this site, so long as you say where you got it from" [01:32:56] ok thanks [01:38:19] 03(mod) Server should return a 404 HTTP status code if the page does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 (10brion) [01:39:21] 03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130 (10brion) [01:49:43] would anyone mind stepping me through the final process of installing mediawiki? I have the message 'To complete the installation, move config/LocalSettings.php to the parent directory.' and just dont want to stuff it up from here [01:49:51] please [01:50:18] cd /path/to/mediawiki [01:50:24] mv config/LocalSettings.php . [01:51:42] yep, so its been installed under the public_html folder. and i've found the config/localsettings.php file. so using filezilla, i download that file - then upload it to the public_html folder? [01:51:52] sure [01:52:00] or using whatever else takes your fancy [01:52:05] I usually use the command-line. [01:52:48] oh i dont know how to do that [01:52:56] I just wrote it above :) [01:53:16] i know but i still dont understand ;) i dont know how i've even got this far [01:54:27] so now its uploaded to public_html. now i just delete the config/localsettings.php file only? [01:54:32] You can. [01:54:38] thank you [01:54:48] now browse to your wiki [01:55:39] do i need to change the file attributes number from 644 to 600? [01:55:50] You should. [01:56:02] That way, nobody can get your database password, etc [01:57:44] hmmm i've done that. now i get the message 'please set up the wiki first' [01:59:30] who's the owner of LocalSettings.php? [01:59:47] how do i tell? [02:00:06] should say in your ftp client, near the file permissions attribute [02:01:33] its the same name i use to login to filezilla, and cpanel [02:02:09] OK [02:02:20] well, set it to 640 for now, see what happens [02:02:24] ok [02:02:57] no change [02:03:25] leave it at 644 then [02:06:04] still no good [02:06:18] im using 1.6.10 not the newest version [02:06:41] are you sure you put LocalSettings.php in the same directory as index.php? [02:07:59] the index.php is still in the config folder. should i move that to the parent directory as well? [02:08:55] ie public_html where i uploaded the localsettings.php to? [02:11:18] what is the path of your config folder? [02:11:57] public_html/mediawiki/config [02:13:21] so i have public_html/localsettings.php and public_html/mediawiki/config/index.php [02:19:05] should they be together? [02:19:36] No. [02:19:42] It should be LocalSettings.php though [02:19:45] (note the case) [02:19:59] it is [02:25:16] ok so i'll try again [02:26:10] 03(WONTFIX) Include path for templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11361 +comment (10brion) [02:26:20] in the 'checking environment' part - Please include all of the lines below when reporting installation problems. [02:26:33] i have this warning [02:26:38] Warning: PHP's safe mode is active. You may have problems caused by this, particularly if using image uploads. [02:27:07] but at the bottom i get the green: Environment checked. You can install MediaWiki. [02:27:36] 04(REOPENED) Use date format preference on unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 +comment (10brion) [02:29:25] Yikes, yeah, you should turn of safe mode [02:29:30] !safe_mode | JohnMichael [02:29:33] !safemode [02:29:33] safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [02:30:21] 03(mod) Loading a special page fails when the option read is set to false for anonymous users . - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11668 (10brion) [02:31:07] 03(mod) uploaded files cannot be updated or deleted (PostgreSQL) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11905 summary (10brion) [02:31:12] ok thanks [02:31:21] Any other warnings? [02:33:03] 03(FIXED) Enable Gadgets extension in cs.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11994 +comment (10brion) [02:34:52] nope. where is the php.ini file located? [02:35:09] is it part of mediawiki? [02:35:31] Usually in /etc/php/ somewhere [02:35:56] 14(WFM) UTF-8 encoding problem related to the "user=" =?UTF-8?Q?=20parameter=20at=20=C2=AB=20coun?==?UTF-8?Q?t=5Fedits=20=C2=BB?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12053 +comment (10brion) [02:36:16] my /etc/ is empty [02:36:37] 03(mod) robots.txt changes for de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 (10brion) [02:36:41] Are you on a *nix server? [02:36:54] Or is this one of those ftp hosts? [02:37:23] im using filezilla [02:40:14] Do you only have ftp access or do you have shell access too? [02:40:28] is shell access using cpanel? [02:40:39] No [02:41:00] Okay, I'm assuming the answer is no, in which case you're going to have to contact your webhost and ask them to disable it. [02:41:50] ok. so that alone would be stopping the installation to run smoothly? [02:42:41] Probably not the only thing, no, but it could well contribute to the problem/ [02:42:43] They probably won't disable it, though. [02:42:52] Werdna: Why not? [02:42:54] the logo is practically better left in the background image if i use just one skin, right? [02:43:01] don't they enable it for, uh, "security"? [02:43:37] Werdna: Yeah, but I think most hosts will gladly turn it off once it's explained to them why it's such an awful thing [02:47:43] so assuming i can't get them to switch it off - will i run into trouble, or is it possible to still install mediawiki, but with reduced features? [02:48:26] Should be possible, just means you may have a lot of problems [02:48:36] what kind of problems? [02:48:58] Who knows? Safe mode has a tendency to break a lot of things for no reason. [02:49:50] safe mode in the language which used to export all cgi varibables to globals by default? hah! [02:49:51] ok. and if it's installed - with safe mode on. if safe mode is turned off at a later date, will it have to be totally reinstalled? [02:50:36] 03(mod) Add "hide minor edits" option to Special:Contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9605 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:50:54] zocky, they're removing it for PHP 6. \o/ [02:51:06] JohnMichael: Can't imagine why [02:51:27] zocky, and that exporting wouldn't be a problem, if PHP had compile-time errors for uninitialized variables. ;) [02:51:45] (Although I don't think any scripting language does, admittedly. In Python it's a fatal error, but runtime.) [02:51:48] Simetrical: Can't have compile-time without compiling :) [02:51:53] php has compile-time errors? [02:51:58] ok thanks for your help, its appreciated [02:52:04] Werdna, yes, they're called syntax errors. [02:52:08] amidaniel, it's compiled to bytecode. [02:52:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Voice_of_All&diff=cur [02:52:35] grrr, fuckin on letter names [02:52:56] Simetrical: It can be ... I thought by default it's simply interpreted, or does the interpretor compile it before running it? [02:53:07] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:53:26] amidaniel, it compiles it every time it loads it. APC and so on just cache the result, they don't do any extra compilation. [02:53:35] Thus the name, "opcode caches", not "opcode generators". [02:53:35] Simetrical: Ah, okay. [02:53:44] Still not your traditional model of "compilation" :) [02:53:59] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 +schema-change (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:57:33] *Simetrical eyes 1211 speculatively [02:58:28] *amidaniel eyes Simetrical [02:59:08] Could be messy in practice . . . you'd have to check that other things using categorylinks understood the new semantics. [02:59:35] Shouldn't be an issue, probably. :) [03:00:07] *Simetrical expects things like DPL will break horribly [03:01:15] But there's no alternative that preserves semantics other than adding an extra column, which 1) is a huge pain and 2) will kill performance for anything that doesn't use the extra column properly, so it's still not backward-compatible. [03:03:27] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [03:09:10] 03(NEW) Special:Import link shambles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12336 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jidanni) [03:28:58] 03(mod) Allow different directionality for user interface and wiki content - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6100 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [03:29:53] 03(mod) Merge rtl.css into main.css - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9868 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [03:30:26] Is http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=4445 crazy or what? [03:30:28] *Simetrical shakes head [03:31:59] What the hell? [03:32:01] ehh? [03:32:20] What bug is that for? [03:32:31] Simetrical: why not add a cookie-stealing attachment to bugzilla? [03:32:34] that would be fun.. [03:32:54] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10johnblumel) [03:32:56] amidaniel, Werdna, look at the source of that attachment. The top two and bottom two boxes should render identically. [03:33:07] Better yet, look in Firebug. [03:33:11] It's crazy. [03:33:16] All the padding is eaten in the bottom two. [03:33:20] (The RTL ones.) [03:33:23] I have no idea why. [03:33:28] *Werdna shrugs [03:33:36] *Werdna attempts to study polynomials [03:33:37] It works in FF3, though. [03:33:57] Hmm .. indeed [03:34:08] And amidaniel, it's 6200, I think. Interface should be RTL/LTR depending on interface language, not content language, is the gist. [03:34:18] amidaniel, it also displays buggily in Opera 9.5, and of course IE. [03:34:23] I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. [03:35:21] all: maintenance/dumpBackup.php complains "This script must be run from the command line" when run from PHP Shell. Any workarounds? [03:35:47] carias1, hack the script, I guess. [03:37:58] Or get shell access. [03:38:14] Backups from that aren't very useful anyway, you probably want an SQL dump. [03:38:17] "I tickle you, and you hit me in the head with a frying pan?!" [03:38:24] *amidaniel giggles [03:38:29] *Simetrical knows lots about polynomials! [03:39:14] I've already got the sqldumps, but I'd sleep better with the xml versions too [03:39:27] oh well [03:43:04] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [03:46:00] hello again [03:46:05] hi [03:46:25] i have an installation problem to report [03:46:36] ok, what? [03:47:04] where can i paste the lines that ive copied....which it says to include when reporting problems? [03:47:15] http://rafb.net/paste/ [03:48:03] ok its available here http://rafb.net/p/GQNyWA31.html [03:48:39] ok, and what's the problem you're having? [03:50:06] well i install it, download the LocalSettings.php file and upload it to the parent directory, delete the config/LocalSettings.php file - and then click on the 'Start Using Your Wiki' link. I then get taken back to the original 'Please Set up Your Wiki First' so it keeps going around and around in circles [03:50:14] this is the second time I've done it - and no change [03:51:24] did you set up your database correctly (that shouldn't be the error, but it hasn't been asked the last time, so I'm asking now) [03:52:32] (like, did you specify the correct db username and password in the install process) [03:54:16] and make sure that LocalSettings.php is in /home/wikimed/public_html/mediawiki/ instead of just public_html [03:54:28] yes. i'll paste what has been recorded after the installation. it says database exists and was able to connect to it [03:54:34] ok [03:55:15] (oh, and don't paste your db username/password...) [03:56:26] http://rafb.net/p/trGzRD64.html [03:57:12] hmmm... [03:57:22] wait - you're a genius! [03:57:22] and you put LocalSettings.php in the correct directory? [03:57:28] ? [03:57:32] yep, just did that then - it worked, thank you [03:57:47] i hadn't put it in the /mediawiki/ part....only the public_html [03:57:52] thank you [03:57:53] that would do it :) [03:57:54] np [04:00:02] JohnMichael: although since safe_mode is on, if you want to enable image uploads, you'll have to use the hashed method (open LocalSettings.php in some text editor, it should explain the process there) [04:35:24] is there a way to force a preview on the Postcomment extension? [04:38:39] 03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130 (10jidanni) [05:07:22] 03(NEW) Link formatting should be available to users/editors - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12337 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mark_e_martin) [06:23:49] hey do ignore wiki formatting you use ? [06:28:57] just might [06:34:56] on a category page, is it possible to display an index sorted by the update of the pages, instead of alphabetically? [06:37:13] 03(FIXED) Enable gadgets on huwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12303 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:41:48] @die [08:44:31] @dump [08:44:31] --mwbot-- A dump is now available at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [08:45:01] !test [08:45:01] --mwbot-- *blink* [08:45:04] !test del [08:45:04] --mwbot-- Successfully removed keyword: test [08:45:06] !test [08:45:06] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "test". You might try: !download !php4 !release !sandbox !subversion [08:45:09] hey! [08:45:15] hi [08:45:15] this is spammy. [08:45:23] hm? [08:45:26] this bot is pinging... [08:45:39] can't you talk to it by private message? [08:45:59] yeah, don't send notices all around [08:46:22] According to 1458 you're supposed to send NOTICEs, not PRIVMSGs .. I was yelled at :( [08:46:55] meh ... lemme switch it back .. I know mIRC pings on those [08:46:56] @die [08:50:25] Okay, I'll hobble over elsewhere [08:50:55] err yea, notices can be sent to a person not a channel [08:51:39] and privmsgs too [08:52:07] OverlordQ: No, they can be sent to a channel. They were created to avoid bot loopbacks, and are supposed to be used by bots. [08:52:22] Unfortunately the mIRC folks felt it should be otherwise ... [08:53:17] amidaniel: you're not disagreeing [08:53:44] they can be sent to either a person or a channel [08:54:02] Yeah, that's what I said :) [08:54:14] it's also what OverlordQ said [08:54:38] No, he said they "can be sent to a person not a channel" :) [08:55:16] that doesn't mean they can't be sent to a channel, does it? [08:55:30] it just means they can be sent to a person, without being simultaneously sent to a channel, right? [08:55:39] OMG #mediawiki IS ACTUALLY ALIVE... [08:55:45] lol... jk [08:56:11] TimStarling: Erm ... if that's how you want to interpret what he said, sure :) [08:57:35] I meant it as: "If you're playing with the bot, why send the replies to the channel instead of the person issuing the commands especially for administrative commands such as . . . " etc [08:58:01] and now that I've said three lines this hour, I shall lurk for another hour :) [08:58:46] and it's 1459 not 1459 ;) [08:58:52] *1458 [08:58:53] Could be done that way .. just never seemed to be a big deal. Usually chatterful helperbots are meant to be verbose [08:59:02] d'oh [08:59:05] *amidaniel smacks head [08:59:12] homer simpson [09:01:49] *qsheets apologizes for all random outbursts within the previous and next 5 hours [09:02:03] *qsheets just doesn't want to fall asleep [09:02:20] *amidaniel pours qsheets some coffee [09:02:28] blahhh [09:02:50] hand me a mountain dew...or a Coke [09:03:57] yucky [09:04:01] *amidaniel doesn't like soda [09:04:18] *qsheets thanks amidaniel for the idea... and goes to make some hot choc.while trying not to wake the family up [09:04:42] Hmmm .. hot cocoa would be good though :) [09:04:56] i have nothing else in the house and my parents will be pissed if i drink their beer [09:08:11] wot, notice #channel,person is possible [09:08:29] so what's the process for mediawiki before it goes to test. then onto all the other wikis? [09:10:06] <_wooz> lo [09:14:01] re [09:21:31] mmmmm... nice tall cocoa [09:40:09] hey all [09:40:18] hello [09:40:22] how do i turn on "wanted pages ? [09:40:30] http://tg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Wantedpages [09:40:37] you can see here that it says: "Updates for this page are currently disabled. Data here will not presently be refreshed." [09:41:02] you stab brion into using the fix for that, which I gave him months ago [09:41:04] but he thought was "ugly" [09:41:18] oh [09:41:33] its a wikiwide problem? [09:44:09] Werdna, which is the bugzilla bug ? [09:44:34] not there [09:44:43] it was just an off-the-cuff fix that I did [09:46:01] oh [09:54:55] 03(mod) Enable Gadgets extension in cs.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11994 (10jkbwiki) [10:24:51] well, i got the latex equation rendering to work after compiling ocaml and installing gs and other stuff, now i'm just curious if it's possible to make the equation background transparent [10:25:42] or at least change it to the same color that the text background is [10:26:03] heh [10:26:42] dvipng supports changing background [10:26:52] and dvipng is called from math.php? [10:27:11] hi [10:27:16] ah [10:27:20] piksi: '-bg Transparent' [10:27:24] dvipng is called by texvc [10:27:39] ah, now i remember, texvc is called from math.php [10:27:40] mmm, good idea, maybe we should produce transparent math images [10:27:48] so i only need to change the parameter for calling it [10:28:02] texvc is called from math.php [10:28:06] dvipng is called from texvc [10:28:14] you may want to edit texvc source ;-) [10:28:21] argh :-D [10:29:41] anyone who rewrites texvc code into php, gets a cookie [10:30:05] well, i'll look into it when i get home from work [10:30:06] how tough would it be to generate a list of say the first 50 000 wikipedians by userid, who have more than 500 or so edits? [10:30:08] that is sorted by userid, but restricted to only those with more than 500 edits (or whatever makes the list of a manageable size on a Wikipedia: namespace page) [10:31:22] basically I am mostly curious about how many people with smaller userids than mine are still active, but a more generalized list would be fun for more people... (mine is 9993) [10:32:37] domas: i'd need a truckfull of cookies ;-) but i think changing it to transparent would be at least a good start as i change skins from time to time and i'd love everything not to rely on the skin [10:32:54] piksi: then '-bg Transparent' should work [10:35:04] domas: hmm, one thing bewilders me, i always thought i was writing latex inside the -so why can't that string just be passed to latex or does the texvc add some headers or other information to it before passing it to latex? [10:35:54] piksi: it needs linting [10:36:04] piksi: tex code can execute stuff, include stuff, etc [10:36:18] what texvc adds is trivial [10:36:21] what it filters out is not [10:54:00] hello [10:54:17] what is the name of wiki "superuser"? [10:54:30] WikiOp or something like this... I just cannot remember ;) [10:55:26] Whatever account you created first ... I believe it's WikiSysop by default [10:56:03] ahmm... there you are WikiSysop [10:56:12] yeah... thx :) [10:56:16] just found it :) [11:00:25] d'oh... I guess I'll have to read the f@#$# manual ;)... I kind of hoped that configuring wikimedia would be as easy as installing it... For example: I'd like to make it so that only registered users can modify content... Is it possible? [11:01:00] Yes, it is [11:01:04] !access | ishi [11:01:04] --mwbot-- ishi : For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [11:02:47] :) [11:03:19] thx... oh well.. back to coding... If I start configuring it the way I want, I'll do nothing I planned for today... [11:03:24] amidaniel|away: thx again :) [11:03:42] yup, np [11:11:55] *qsheets is bored [11:12:08] oh...click button [11:12:11] Linux 2.6.22-14-generic [i686/2.00GHz] [11:12:24] *Werdna haxors qsheets [11:12:51] *qsheets throws blanket on it you didn't see nuttin [11:14:08] *qsheets knows that isn't nearly enough info to hack a linux sys [11:15:00] What, haven't you heard about that gaping security hole in the 2.6.22-14 kernel? [11:15:12] ...now If i were using windows it'd be a whole new ballgame (t-bal) [11:15:23] it's particularly gaping in that generic version [11:15:28] amidaniel|away: not mine [11:18:05] kernels have the least to do with security...they a more performance and leave sec. up to the OS [11:18:27] *qsheets is a high-schooler with a brain [11:19:04] ...not one of those dumb cheerleaders (no offense to those in here) [11:19:16] Unfortunately, the OS can only do what the kernel lets it :) [11:20:01] And if the kernel decides that it wants to listen on port 6667 and pipe everything it hears there to a root shell, sobeit! :) [11:45:14] when the sidebar is created with all it's links...does it have an eventname!? [11:47:18] i want to programm a hook that's why i'm asking [11:55:25] if anybody has an idea...i'm registered at wikimedia my nickanme is moonlight would be kind if you write a hint on my userpage...just in case i'm already offline when you read it :-) [11:58:08] hi [11:58:19] Good, somebody pointing that could be answered on the wiki! :O [11:58:27] (but i think you meant mediawiki.org) [11:58:53] how to view list of all articles ? [11:59:11] Special:allpages [11:59:14] yeah i meant that one [11:59:37] Platonides: thanks [12:22:02] 03(NEW) Enable subpages on Esperanto Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12338 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (robin_1273) [12:47:52] 03(NEW) Inconsistent table recognition - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12339 minor; low; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Jared.Williams1) [13:48:39] hi there [13:49:42] I wish to know the difference beetween hits on : Most Viewed Pages and Popular Pages [13:50:23] cause they display different data. And IMHO most viewed pages should be the popular pages (and vice-versa) [13:54:41] who can help me fix this problem ? [13:54:41] http://www.mediafire.com/?8vimnxh11e0 [13:54:55] video 96 kb [14:11:52] Hi everybody! [14:12:23] How do I set up an IRC bot for posting all changes on a wiki to an IRC channel? [14:12:43] it's on meta somewhere [14:14:25] the easiest is with netcat [15:04:35] 03(NEW) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (carlb613) [15:04:37] 03(ASSIGNED) uploaded files cannot be updated or deleted (PostgreSQL) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11905 +comment (10greg) [15:05:21] 1267: Illegal mix of collations (utf8_unicode_ci,IMPLICIT) and (cp1251_ukrainian_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' [15:05:41] i dont't have any cp1251_ukrainian_ci in my database :( [15:15:26] 03(FIXED) parserTests.php doesn't run on PostgreSQL - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585 +comment (10greg) [15:37:23] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 +comment (10carlb613) [15:38:48] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 (10N/A) [15:52:44] hi [15:53:12] 03(NEW) Warning for truncation of pages to 32kb - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12341 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (random832) [15:58:14] I'd like to change a little bit the cologne blue to NOT display the line "an article from" ("Un article de" in french) just after the page's title. Any trick to do that ? [15:58:35] css [15:58:46] dont remember the element id [16:02:29] zarkass, you should be able to change the system message from Special:Allmessages. [16:02:47] CSS would be a poor solution. [16:05:41] thank you all ! 'Going to try ! [16:12:09] is it possible to use variables on mediawiki that I can set? we use it internally to track information about customers and projects to some extent, adn I would love to be able to do somthing like use "customer1.contactemail" instead of hard coding the email on 2-3 pages [16:19:07] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [16:19:12] diabeatus2, what you can do is have a page for each customer with their info [16:19:49] diabeatus2, and then do {{#switch:{{{1}}}|name=Joe Bloogs|age=32|email=me@example.com}} [16:19:57] on that page [16:20:02] ok, [16:20:25] you can then do {{joe bloggs|name}} or {{joe bloggs|age}} on other pages [16:20:37] that is EXACTLY what I want! [16:20:57] diabeatus2, it works ok for small stuff [16:21:15] awesome! [16:21:18] it's way too slow for simulating databases of any useful size [16:22:01] thats fine... [16:22:21] i want to centralize a few things like machine info, and customers contact info [16:22:29] lookign for documentation on #switch [16:22:42] it's somewhere under "parser functions" [16:22:54] you need to install the extension if you don't have it [16:23:01] ah [16:23:02] ok [16:23:22] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 (10lee_yiu_chung) [16:25:38] hi all [16:28:31] is there a way how to place a search input box in a main Namespace page and search in Portal name space? [16:29:49] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 (10carlb613) [16:29:51] I wish to know the difference beetween hits on : Most Viewed Pages and Popular Pages. cause they display different data. And IMHO most viewed pages should be the popular pages (and vice-versa) [16:30:24] ummm [16:30:34] 03(FIXED) Restrict uploads to autoconfirmed in Russian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12334 +comment (10brion) [16:30:52] Can anyone install mediawiki, and create a new wiki? Or do you need a hoster etc [16:31:35] Oscardog|AFK: you should have a server to do it [16:31:51] Lin_: there is no 'most viewed pages', at least in a default install [16:32:04] Do i need a server tho? :p [16:32:06] brion: lemme check the url... [16:32:32] Would it technically run without me having a OMFG expensive server? [16:32:40] Oscardog|AFK: You need some web server softawre and some database server software [16:32:44] Yes [16:33:23] Oscardog|AFK: you can run in your computer. but to serve pages for world you need a internet connection [16:33:51] Do you mean JUST a connection, or an actual hoster? [16:34:23] JUST a connection [16:35:01] Ok thanks [16:35:34] So if i was to download the mediawiki, MySQL and PHP from mediawiki.org i would in theory have myself a wiki? [16:36:06] Well, once you have setup MySQL and Apache and MediaWiki, yes you would [16:36:23] I suspect thought that you may be biting off more than you can chew [16:37:25] Ye, well im currently only an administrator on www.wiki.tribalwars.net [16:37:35] Trying to get my own wiki to try out stuff with ;) [16:37:40] mysql and php are not downloadable from mediawiki.org. [16:38:23] That's a rather daunting task tbh [16:38:34] Setting up a new wiki with all the dependancies is not a trival task [16:38:55] No, i expect its not. [16:38:56] brion: Special:Statistics and Special:Popularpages [16:39:08] Its all on the mediawiki.org website tho... so if i wanted, i could. [16:39:12] special:statistics has only some overview numbers, Lin_ [16:39:15] no list of pages [16:39:47] Do you, yourself, have a wiki Mike? [16:39:55] Yeah [16:39:58] brion: sorry, but yes. there is. [16:40:12] # Main Page‎ [57,872] [16:40:12] # Category:Music clip‎ [3,257] [16:40:12] # Ibeu Digital:Basic 4‎ [2,283] (from statistics) [16:40:13] Lin_: url please [16:40:20] Cool, can i see it? :D [16:40:23] Link, plz [16:40:29] sorry.. isnt world accessible. [16:40:30] hmmmmm [16:40:32] is a inttranet. [16:40:34] that must be new [16:40:38] *shrug* [16:40:44] from popular pages: [16:40:44] Now why would you want to see that?! [16:40:45] # Main Page ‎(57,873 views) [16:40:45] # Teachers' Page ‎(1,330 views) [16:40:45] # Surprise Video Activities ‎(1,211 views) [16:40:56] take a look.. the numbers are different. [16:41:10] even the pages showed are different. [16:41:17] Just curious, only ever seen a few wiki's and they all quite basic. you seem to know what ur doing so i thought yours might look a bit better lol [16:41:38] the last one is from: popularpages [16:41:40] No, certainly not, it's just a bog standard install I'm afriad [16:41:45] Lin_: the summary of a top few there is the same as the top few in the complete list [16:41:51] at least on mine [16:41:55] It looks exactly like wikipedia :-) [16:41:55] Dam :P [16:41:55] im using media wiki 1.9 [16:42:09] brion: not mine.. Just the first page is same.. all orthers are different. [16:42:17] Lol. The wiki i am an admin on, only had mediawiki 1.11.0 >.> [16:42:45] 03(mod) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 (10carlb613) [16:42:49] Its so far behind the times... [16:42:56] and what is that wikibugs thing... its really annoying [16:43:17] zocky you still here? [16:43:21] That would be a b0t, I think [16:43:27] Ye, its annoying [16:43:40] 04(REOPENED) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 15enhancement->normal; normal->high; -need-review -patch ; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [16:43:56] Oscardog|AFK, wikibugs is useful to the developers here. ;) [16:44:06] Its still annoying >.> [16:44:08] So is CIA-38, when it works. [16:44:39] http://wiki.tribalwars.net/wiki/Main_Page - my current wiki i admin on [16:44:55] maybe wikibugs thinks you're annoying, Oscardog|AFK :) [16:45:43] ... [16:45:53] 03(FIXED) Edit links are appearing below section header line instead of above - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12340 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [16:46:33] brion: any idea? [16:46:45] Lin_: are the numbers different? or the list is different? [16:46:51] i'm not sitting at your computer so i can't tell :) [16:46:53] number and list [16:47:01] I will paste somewhere [16:47:07] well the numbers should be the same, unless of course they're simply changing over time. [16:47:31] 03(mod) Wikimedia should migrate to new user rights assignment scheme - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 +comment (10random832) [16:48:38] http://rafb.net/p/LEvQcz34.html [16:49:07] http://rafb.net/p/tS4xC842.html [16:49:12] check it please brion [16:49:26] Lin_: the top 10 list on special:statistics shows all namespaces [16:49:35] special:popularpages by default shows main namespace only [16:50:01] truly.. but they arent namespaces just bad labeled pages [16:50:02] =D [16:50:45] Why can i not access mediawiki.org >.> [16:51:05] >.> this is anoying [16:52:20] Is anyone else having difficulties? [16:53:07] Oscardog|AFK: net problems in amsterdam [16:53:14] Works for me [16:53:32] Now its fine [16:53:33] since resolved [17:40:32] 03(mod) Make rollback a user preference for non-admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 +comment (10ssanbeg) [17:41:46] How can i add a div in a mediawiki ? [17:42:52] Deleted,
Text
[17:43:49] I mean, a div in the web site, not only in the content [17:44:13] Its the same... [17:44:36]
Or something like that is HTML... [17:44:49] but html doesnt work in php pages ! ^^ [17:45:06] Touché lol [17:45:19] for example, adding
in "index.php" doesnt work [17:45:30] sure it does [17:45:42] ?>
test
no it makes an error [17:47:03] header issues... [17:47:19] But it in the skin, or use a parser hook [17:48:12] cause i wanna add a little picture in the bottom of my mediawiki, in a div [17:48:30] and what file are you editing? [17:48:54] dont know... [17:49:00] *TimLaqua_away wanders off [17:49:35] i want to know what i have to edit ^^ [17:49:53] 03(mod) Make rollback a user preference for non-admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:50:10] skins/Monobook.php [17:50:20] skins/MonoBook.php [17:50:23] Note caps. \o/ [17:50:39] indeed [17:51:29] k you got it guy ! Didn't saw that [17:51:34] guys [17:51:49] thanks for the help [17:53:13] 03(mod) categories that should be populated by templates using parser functions remain empty more often than not - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12004 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:54:07] 03(mod) Please add " Mark all edits minor by default EXCEPT new page creation" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12008 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:55:06] hi, I want to know where I açcan find templates for mediawiki to download [17:55:23] does somebody know? [17:56:58] TimStarling, you might want to comment on http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12019. [17:58:56] 03(NEW) get_sock() in memcached-client. php calculates hash in wrong way - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12342 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (marooned) [17:59:19] 14(DUP) Make deletions visible on the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12046 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:59:22] 03(mod) Logs about watched pages should appear in the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:59:59] brion: as I saw, you've already created some Planets Wikimedia today. May you create the russian one, please? [18:00:53] 03(mod) After Installation MyQL was blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070 04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:03:06] 03(mod) get_sock() in memcached-client.php calculates hash in wrong way - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12342 (10marooned) [18:08:06] 03(mod) Internet Explorer renders extra whitespace for external links that wrap lines in Monobook - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12104 minor->trivial; summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:11:23] 03(mod) Addition of "LIKE" parameter to doQuery() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12127 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:13:13] 03(mod) Names given to system messages do not follow a single format - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12131 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:13:16] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:17:05] Besides using CSS how would I get the edit link to be places on the right side of the headings? [18:17:12] Does anyone know how to use Article class in an extension? [18:17:18] locke: CSS is the only solution. [18:17:37] minute: what do youw ant to do w/ it? [18:18:01] hmm... and hacking the parser, but i was trying to avoid that as well [18:18:16] TimLaqua: I want to get the wikitext of a given page. [18:19:18] 14(WFM) Recreating a page that was deleted while you edited it should give a warning - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12164 minor->15enhancement; low->normal; summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:19:20] fetchContent() [18:19:33] Fatal error: Call to a member function getPrefixedText() on a non-object in /home/linyard/public_html/tmw/includes/Article.php on line 354 [18:20:01] well what article object are you calling it on? [18:20:05] Generated by: $plate = new Article( urldecode( $wgRequest->getText( "boilerplate", false ) ) );$form->textbox1 = $plate->fetchContent(); [18:20:43] 03(mod) DoubleRedirects is incomplete - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12182 minor->normal (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:20:45] 03(mod) DoubleRedirects is incomplete - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12182 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:21:49] 03(mod) PHP Strict Standards issues with formatMetadata, getDimensionsString, and others - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12202 normal->trivial; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:21:52] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:22:42] minute: $plate = new Article( Title::newFromURL($wgRequest->getVal('boilerplate')) ); [18:22:54] Let me try... [18:23:03] 03(mod) Addition of "LIKE" parameter to doQuery() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12127 (10innocentkiller) [18:23:19] 03(mod) Custom Names.php can't be used since 1.10.0 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12216 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:23:20] TimLaqua: Wow, thank you. *hi-fives* [18:23:25] ;-) [18:24:05] the article constructor accepts a title object, not a string. I thinkt he only place title is a string is all the way up in WebStart.php [18:24:19] 03(mod) Without tidy: wrongly closed table cell messes up display completely - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12221 normal->minor (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:24:34] Oh, right. Good point, I'll remember that next time. [18:25:53] 03(mod) "/dmirror/http/en.wikipedia.org/w/" added to article text - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12217 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:27:56] 03(mod) Addition of "LIKE" parameter to doQuery() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12127 (10greg) [18:27:58] 03(mod) Add recent changes style byte indicators to history pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12228 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:28:54] 14(DUP) Page protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12248 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:28:59] 03(mod) expired full protection should not cancel previous protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10079 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:29:01] when i add a div to "monobook.php", it does not appear in the wiki [18:29:28] 03(mod) Expiring protection should not cancel previous protections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10079 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:29:44] and i don't see it in the source code neither [18:30:57] 03(WONTFIX) compress javascript output - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12250 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:35:33] 03(mod) Names given to system messages do not follow a single format - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12131 (10huji.huji) [18:39:14] 03(mod) Render category links as an HTML list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12261 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:41:54] hello [18:42:23] 03(mod) After Installation MySQL was blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12070 summary (10roan.kattouw) [18:43:24] 03(FIXED) Provide extension for title blacklisting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11622 +comment (10vasilvv) [18:44:15] 03(mod) Link formatting should be available to users/editors - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12337 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [18:48:07] 03(NEW) Deleting a page should not affect the old protection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12343 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (redrocketboy) [18:56:22] Is it possible to keep the tabs at the top (article, history, talk page etc.) from scrolling with the page? [19:02:47] 03(mod) ProofreadPage: Automatically link to other pages for multipage PDFs and DjVus - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12238 (10thomasV1) [19:02:53] putlake: in theory, with sufficient CSS hackery, yes. however i recommend against it [19:03:21] brion: why would you recommend against it? [19:03:23] fixed positioning of surrounding elements causes scrolling to not work as expected [19:03:46] for instance if you scroll down a full page (space, page-down, or click on scrollbar) you will find that you've lost several lines of text [19:03:47] can we do frames? [19:04:12] frames are much more disruptive to the way the system as a whole works, and it would take a lot of work to redo the wiki to use them [19:04:47] ok. Thanks. I'll try with CSS. The thing is I really need to make it work because of the custom skin [19:04:56] you could try giving the content area its own scrollbars (overflow, etc in css), but this may disrupt normal scrolling behavior in other ways (keys not working as expected, interference with mousing, automatic stuff, etc) [19:05:05] well good luck :) [19:05:14] Thanks :) [19:06:16] I have some troubles with the API.php, I get the answer {"comment": "de.wikipedia name", "pageid": 13080807, "title": "", "timestamp": "2007-09-03T19:18:06Z", "revid": 155472228, "ns": 0}. Can anyone tell me what's the title of "pageid": 13080807 ? [19:06:28] I suspect it's a deleted article [19:07:19] no such record is present in the db [19:08:17] hum [19:09:12] Could have been oversighted? [19:09:51] query was: [19:09:53] action="query", list="usercontribs", ucuser=arg, uclimit=uc_count [19:10:02] ok [19:12:27] 03(FIXED) robots.txt changes for de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 +comment (10brion) [19:13:14] minute: It must have been something like that. I'm surprised to have received an answer related to an nonexistant record, though [19:15:14] 03(mod) Names given to system messages do not follow a single format - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12131 (10brion) [19:20:23] 03(mod) Link formatting should be available to users/editors - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12337 (10mark_e_martin) [19:30:38] 03(mod) Add a tag for inline math - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12223 (10brion) [19:31:48] 03(NEW) New custom namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12344 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (stem) [19:31:48] Is there any class to get an array of pages that are in a particular category without doing a manual database query? [19:32:00] 03(NEW) Server should return a 410 HTTP status code for deleted pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12345 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (psychonaut) [19:32:34] 03(mod) Server should return a 404 HTTP status code if the page does not exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 (10psychonaut) [19:38:37] minute: don't know, did you try the API? [19:39:27] api would be heavier than just running the DB query [19:40:39] afaik, all the core category stuff is paged [19:40:51] er... pagenated [19:41:21] AaronSchulz: Internally I was hoping, since I am developing an extension. [19:41:26] TimLaqua: Yeah, it is rather annyoing, [19:41:36] *minute will do the database query. [19:42:14] oh, yeah, there is no pre-made function for that [19:42:18] :) [19:42:26] I thought you just wanted a list [19:42:34] oh, right [19:42:37] not code for how to make it [19:42:53] Oh, I was looking for a specific function. [19:43:03] I can do the coding, but I can't find a function to do it. [19:43:13] minute: look at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 - apparently bringing page_namespace in to the where clause is a horrible idea. ;-) [19:43:24] oh, right:S:S [19:43:42] It is really nice being able to create extensions for MediaWiki - I maintain two wikis and it is cool being able to adapt them so extensively now I have experience. [19:43:58] I agree. I did some phpbb stuff the other day and it was such a headache. [19:44:06] MW has a solid hook system. [19:44:16] yeah, that is brilliant. [19:44:19] We need MediaForum! [19:44:21] 03(mod) Add a tag for inline math - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12223 (10psychomessiah) [19:44:50] ... and the room goes silent. [19:44:53] ;-) [19:45:50] bugzilla is crazy busy today [19:49:15] speaking of bugzilla, I presume it sill publishes people's email addresses? [19:49:27] if so, it should say so in large red letters on the page where you register [19:50:31] agree, especially since we send people to bugzilla from wikimedia sites [19:57:33] 03(mod) it.wikiversity - Impossible import pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 (10brion) [20:01:14] 03(FIXED) European squids down? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12235 +comment (10brion) [20:03:00] brion: gettin caught on some bugs? [20:05:58] 03(WONTFIX) Make rollback a user preference for non-admins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 +comment (10brion) [20:15:10] brion: ;) [20:15:19] wooo [20:15:46] 03(NEW) Error in MonoBook.php creates invalid XML - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12346 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (justin.force) [20:21:23] *AaronSchulz reads the mailing list [20:21:29] "Our chief technical officer, Brion Vibber, will report to Erik." [20:21:34] *AaronSchulz giggles [20:21:45] :) [20:22:00] something feels off [20:25:42] 03(FIXED) PicturePopup extension deleted from SVN (Wikimedia installed) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12288 +comment (10brion) [20:39:28] 03(mod) it.wikiversity - Impossible import pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 (10fede.reghe) [20:42:41] 03(mod) New custom namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12344 +comment (10jeluf) [20:43:14] 03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20Create=20=D9=88=D8=A8=20and=20=D9=86=D9=88?= =?UTF-8?Q?=20namespace=20aliases=20on?==?UTF-8?Q?=20Arabic=20Wikipedia?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12347 (10N/A) [20:45:28] !mwbot wikibugs [20:45:28] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [20:45:38] !wikibugs [20:45:38] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "wikibugs". [20:46:01] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages on Esperanto Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12338 +comment (10jeluf) [20:47:25] mwbot: wikibugs is awesome! [20:47:30] *brion wonders if it remembers things that way [20:47:32] !wikibugs [20:47:32] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "wikibugs". [20:47:35] awww :( [20:47:49] !wikibugs is is awesome! [20:47:49] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: wikibugs [20:47:54] whee [20:47:55] !wikibugs [20:47:55] --mwbot-- is awesome! [20:48:09] 03(FIXED) Letting blocked users edit their talk pages on Swedish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 +comment (10jeluf) [20:48:51] *TimLaqua glances over at CIA-38 wondering if he's ready to join the other bots in participating [20:50:14] Poor abused mwbot :( [20:50:17] *amidaniel pets mwbot [20:50:49] *AaronSchulz kicks CIA-38 [20:50:50] ow [20:50:59] hehe [20:51:15] *AaronSchulz renames this channel to #bot-abuse [20:51:37] hi [20:51:43] can we make mwbot emote things? [20:51:58] help me find information about wfSmartyExtension ? [20:52:26] TimLaqua: No :) [20:52:39] awww [20:53:21] nofx-punk: Never heard of it .. where did you get it from? [20:53:35] !wikibugs [20:53:35] --mwbot-- is awesome! [20:53:37] lol [20:53:59] where can I download a bot to post wiki edits to a channel [20:54:12] amidaniel: wait i'll give you link [20:54:15] 03(mod) Blank Pages on Print Preview for Cologne Blue Skin (MSIE) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12291 summary; +comment (10brion) [20:54:17] 03(mod) Internet Explorer (IE) issues on Windows (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640 (10brion) [20:54:19] !rcbot | Dvyjones [20:54:19] --mwbot-- Dvyjones : To create an IRC bot to display recent changes to your Wiki, follow the directions at . [20:54:24] 03(FIXED) Enable patrolled edits on de.wikiversity.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12315 +comment (10jeluf) [20:54:30] aah [20:54:31] ty [20:55:30] amidaniel: http://www.mediafire.com/?0iuktwyntjx [20:56:00] old.png ? [20:56:28] What programming language is bugzilla? [20:56:44] python [20:56:51] or perl [20:56:59] amidaniel: yes [20:57:00] not sure, i think it is python though [20:57:01] Pretty sure it's python [20:57:20] *minute remembers setting it up, a complete whore compared to MediaWiki ;) [20:57:23] May be a combination of a few .. I remember some mention of python libraries though [20:57:25] anyaways, it is possible to host it on sourceforge? [20:57:28] TimLaqua: MediaBugz ;) [20:57:42] that supports both python and perl [20:57:51] amidaniel: its a screenshot from Special:Version [20:57:53] ;-) [20:58:07] just waiting for sourceforge to finish the shell update. . . . . .. . . . . [20:58:28] nofx-punk: Okay .. that doesn't answer my question much :) [20:59:05] 03(FIXED) new logo for Guarani wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12323 +comment (10jeluf) [20:59:12] amidaniel: i dont get it... what question? [20:59:27] 04(REOPENED) Image simultaneously does and doesn't exist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12297 +comment (10brion) [20:59:53] nofx-punk: What is the extension? Where does it come from? etc., etc. ... it's not one I've ever heard of it, so I'm not going to be able to help you with it without knowing what it is [21:00:14] 03(FIXED) remove $configdate extra step in config/index.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12296 +comment (10brion) [21:01:16] 03(mod) Editing tools not showing when trying to edit articles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12326 -shell ; +comment (10jeluf) [21:01:44] amidaniel: "What is the extension?" - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions [21:01:48] :( [21:02:23] nofx-punk: No, what does this particular extension do? [21:03:25] 14(WFM) Timer for edits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12305 +comment (10brion) [21:04:34] bugzilla's perl. ugly, ugly perl [21:05:32] 03(mod) Provide namespace options from Special: Search when blank search performed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8444 (10jayvdb) [21:05:59] amidaniel: i dont know. i have only screenshot from Special:Version. and i need to setup it, on new mediawiki version [21:08:13] 03(mod) Multilingual Wikisource and its language subdomains - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4758 (10jayvdb) [21:10:07] 03(mod) Turn on DidYouMean extension on en.wiktionary.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12329 normal->lowest; +comment (10jeluf) [21:10:10] 03(mod) DidYouMean extension submitted for comment and testing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8648 (10jeluf) [21:11:38] 03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 (10jayvdb) [21:15:52] 03(mod) Enable patrolled edits on de.wikiversity.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12315 (10erkan77) [21:20:21] im looking for a bot that will display all changes made to the wiki on an IRC chan. this is for my own wiki. any suggestions? [21:21:07] !rcbot | ke5aux [21:21:07] --mwbot-- ke5aux : To create an IRC bot to display recent changes to your Wiki, follow the directions at . [21:22:39] ok sweet thanks. [21:23:17] 03(mod) Addition of "LIKE" parameter to doQuery() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12127 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:26:51] 03(FIXED) Closure of several wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12333 +comment (10jeluf) [21:30:18] 03(mod) Allow users to watch all subpages of a top-level page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12308 (10brion) [21:31:13] 03(mod) UTF-8 encoding problem related to the "user=" =?UTF-8?Q?=20parameter=20at=20=C2=AB=20coun?==?UTF-8?Q?t=5Fedits=20=C2=BB?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12053 (10gangleri) [21:31:56] 03(FIXED) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12347 +comment (10jeluf) [21:32:08] ooh... "Allow users to watch all subpages of a top-level page"... yet ANOTHER extension I know of that hasn't been publicly released yet :P [21:34:55] 03(FIXED) Allow autoconfirmed users to patrol new pages on sv Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12300 +comment (10jeluf) [21:37:13] What can I use to call out a string, similiar to what '''foo''' does, but that's stronger than bold [21:37:15] ? [21:37:27] by strong I mean, it jumps out more. [21:39:48] masterflexor, Foo [21:40:45] :P [21:40:59] 03(NEW) Category Sorts Names Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12348 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (kris) [21:41:05] text-decoration:blink could work too [21:41:39] 60in, lol [21:42:13] TimStarling: will you have any time to look over flaggedrevs soon? [21:42:22] I'd like to really mark it as beta in the near future [21:42:28] is there a wikitext that does this more elegantly, Simetrical [21:42:48] masterflexor, no. [21:43:57] Simetrical, alright [21:45:16] 14(INVALID) Category Sorts Names Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12348 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:46:29] 03(mod) UTF-8 encoding problem related to the "user=" =?UTF-8?Q?=20parameter=20at=20=C2=AB=20coun?==?UTF-8?Q?t=5Fedits=20=C2=BB?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12053 (10gangleri) [21:47:28] 03(mod) Category Sorts Names Wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12348 (10kris) [21:50:01] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 +comment (10shaww) [21:57:41] Simetrical: you around? [21:58:11] MZMcBride, what's up? [21:58:34] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12246 [21:59:26] MZMcBride, and? [21:59:29] MZMcBride, complain to Brion, not me. [21:59:32] He is the Lord our God. [21:59:40] :) i wasn't complaining [21:59:40] If he WONTFIXes a bug, it is WONTFIXed. [21:59:54] Well, so what about that bug did you want to say to me? [22:00:04] just thinking about it... would addgroups / removegroups be a better way to deal with this bug [22:00:13] assuming userrights eventually becomes active [22:00:50] not the preference part, but the rollback part [22:02:01] that, and you suggested setting the preference as a one-time thing, but the preferences are in a blob, i believe, which would make setting a particular preference difficult, right? [22:02:19] *AaronSchulz reads http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php?p=147 [22:04:31] MZMcBride, not especially difficult . . . you just set them with a REPLACE. [22:04:40] Well, plus some other fiddling. [22:04:46] A little more difficult to do mass operations. [22:05:30] i'm not sure i understand the wontfix... i thought the bug was pretty well explained :/ [22:05:44] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:06:00] Well, I don't see the point. Why would you want to enable\disable your rollback button? [22:06:29] It could quite easily be solved via CSS, and what is the point in having it as a user privilage if anyone can grant themselves it? [22:06:38] it's for non-admins [22:06:51] 03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article paging - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:06:58] minute: read the bug and URL [22:07:00] yees, if you're /that/ concerned about users misusing it for editwarring, then you shouldn't be letting any old user have it. [22:07:25] MZMcBride: I have done. [22:08:10] And, IMO, it makes no sense. [22:08:42] putting it preferences lets those who have an account and want the option to have it [22:09:00] because reverting changes is pretty easy through Twinkle and undo anyway.... [22:09:32] and it puts the responsibility on the user, rather than having a link pop up for everyone that people accidentally click [22:10:06] if someone abuses the tool, you block, just like if they abused any other type of reversion method [22:12:13] why shouldn't you block if somebody misuses it anyway? [22:12:36] users aren't stupid. they know what a link that says "rollback" does. [22:13:22] i would guess 90% of users have no idea what the rollback link does; it would take experimenting for them to find out [22:13:35] ... are you serious? [22:13:35] How can one 'watch' a page? [22:13:44] masterflex: watch link at the top of the page [22:14:02] absolutely; how would they know? [22:14:14] Werdna, I see 'my watchlist', not 'watch', though [22:14:23] masterflex: on the page you want to watch [22:14:28] MZMcBride: the same way they know what a button labelled "edit" does [22:15:22] rollback would not equal "automatically revert any changes made by this user to the last edits made by a previous user" in a normal editor's mind [22:15:26] 03(mod) Editsection Links should come after Section Headlines - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11555 +comment (10arnomane) [22:15:32] esp. the automatic part [22:15:33] no, 'watch' button. darn [22:15:49] MZMcBride: Rename it to "revert previous editors edits" or similar [22:16:02] with correct grammar, of course [22:16:06] MZMcBride: so put a tooltip on it. or have a (what is this?) link next to it. [22:16:09] masterflex: there's one in the default skin; if not, use &action=watch [22:16:11] or, as minute said, rename it [22:16:34] a user preference could have a link right next to it explaining it :) [22:16:46] even a mediawiki message for localization [22:16:59] well, of course you'd use a message [22:18:38] the user preference idea would involve less bureaucracy. that's why i'm in favor of it. no userrights or extra extension needed, and those who want the ability to rollback can easily obtain it, while being able to understand its capabilities when doing so [22:19:16] doesn't solve any problems, though, except, perhaps, making sure that users are aware of the policy before they get it. [22:19:54] which is all that's really needed. rollback isn't a big deal [22:20:22] well, those problems are solveable without adding an extra user preference [22:20:25] except that it doesn't let you put in a summary to explain the rollback if it isn't obvious :) [22:20:29] there just needs to be a way to confirm that the user can't come back and say "i didn't realize it was reverting _all_ the user's changes" or "i had no idea it was even reverting" [22:21:17] Skizzerz: at least on en.wiki, rollback should always only be used for vandalism [22:21:35] because it has an automatic summary, it shouldn't be used in ambiguous cases [22:21:39] yeah, but that doesn't mean that it ONLY gets used for that :P [22:21:41] so change the link to '[Remove: this is vandalism]' [22:22:40] Werdna: so you think userrights / having sysops give/take rollback is a better idea [22:22:50] sure [22:23:13] actually, I think doing a bit of UI work on it would do the trick [22:23:20] in my opinion, it's another process / possible backlog for en.wiki :( [22:23:35] and then there's the drama [22:25:34] MediaWiki is used by a lot more sites than Wikipedia, it would be wasteful to implement a poor feature just because people can't be bothered to go through the correct processes. [22:25:48] And with that, I bid you all goodnight. [22:34:37] MediaWiki is used by more than just Wikipedia? Who knew? [22:34:57] what's Wikipedia? [22:35:23] lol [22:35:26] :P [22:36:25] apparantly mwbot doesn't know what Wikipedia is either... [22:42:10] which hook should I use to append content at the bottom of a page ? [22:43:57] 03(mod) Link formatting should be available to users/editors - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12337 (10mark_e_martin) [22:52:28] I can get more localisations for MediaWiki if I get a po file of MessagesEn.php. Is there someone that could get me something to make an 'instant po' of the current MessagesEn.php (preferably putting optional messages at the bottom and leaving ignored out)? [22:56:19] siebrand, i thought there was a utility that generates the po? [22:57:02] alnokta: that would be great. Any idea where it would be? [22:57:02] 03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313 +comment (10snottygobble) [22:57:19] siebrand, let me check [22:57:49] alnokta: right in front of me... :) lang2po.php [22:58:04] siebrand, :) [23:02:55] alnokta: hmm, ran the script. It is giving some stdoutput but nothing else. Care to help? [23:04:57] alnokta: found them. $IP/locale/ [23:05:11] siebrand, yes, was just going to say :) [23:05:48] huge folder [23:06:31] hmm, would have expected files to have some actual content. They do not, really. [23:08:03] alnokta: they all have the following content: http://rafb.net/p/JcfYyt38.html [23:08:03] siebrand, you mean empty or untranslated ? [23:08:22] alnokta: well, looks empty to me. [23:08:40] siebrand, i ran php lang2po.php en [23:12:23] alnokta: yes. Getting empty files. Could it be I am missing a library or something? [23:12:46] alnokta: getting all language codes on screen like "Applying template:Loading messages for af:" [23:12:49] 03(mod) CharInsert cannot insert combining diacritics on their own - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3821 (10hippytrail) [23:13:39] alnokta: inside 'locale/' a folder is created with one .po file in it. All .po files are the same. I also ran 'php lang2po.php en (and --lang=en) [23:14:38] siebrand, empty or contain the english messages? [23:14:55] alnokta: like the file i just pasted. http://rafb.net/p/JcfYyt38.html [23:15:30] 03(mod) Create "WP" namespace on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6313 +comment (10zivontsis) [23:15:52] siebrand, thats the po files i get http://turtle.ignorelist.com/messages.po [23:16:25] 03(mod) Customisable per-user edit tools - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9754 +comment (10hippytrail) [23:16:30] 03(mod) Preference to toggle edit tools - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11130 (10hippytrail) [23:17:31] alnokta: not what I am getting. [23:18:31] alnokta: hmm, I thought this would just convert MessagesXx.php to a .po, but it looks like it is doing something else. [23:19:05] siebrand, yes, seems it makes a pot, and copies it to each lang [23:20:28] alnokta: hmm, interesting. Just did the same on Betawiki (linux): same result as on my windows box. What is the exact command you gave? [23:22:26] siebrand, i have 1.11.0, may be it [23:22:36] alnokta: installing gettext was probably a good idea. [23:23:15] siebrand, ah you didn't have it already ;) [23:23:47] alnokta: msgstr "" [23:23:54] alnokta: empty everywhere. [23:24:11] siebrand, http://turtle.ignorelist.com/inf.php [23:26:40] there is a screen cast of metavid mediaWiki extension on the metavid blog http://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog ... if anyone is interested in open source video integrations with medaiWiki [23:30:05] How can Special:Listusers be disabled for all users except sysops? [23:30:47] uh, lemme find what you need to hack [23:30:57] CaneToad: which version? [23:31:32] Skizzerz, thanks... it is 1.10.2-36 [23:31:40] ok [23:33:43] CaneToad: ok, in /includes/SpecialPage.php, change "'Listusers' => array( 'SpecialPage', 'Listusers' )," to "'Listusers' => array( 'SpecialPage', 'Listusers', 'sysop' )," [23:34:08] (should be right underneath where all the variables are defined) [23:34:24] ok great, thanks... [23:35:27] wb brion :) [23:35:44] yo [23:36:49] siebrand, how to convert from the po -> langfile? [23:37:04] Skizzerz, change works, bewdy mate, thanks :) [23:37:17] alnokta: that would be the next challenge. [23:37:40] :) [23:37:45] alnokta: as long as something would make it 'id' => 'content' rebuildLanguage.php would take care of that. [23:38:00] "'id' => 'content'," even. [23:38:21] brion: I was told to contact you before requesting any schema changes, so here I go... Anyway, I've "fixed" http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8440 (still have to upload the patch file), but it requires adding a field (ipb_block_talk) to the ipblock table. Would you be supportive of such a change? [23:39:05] CaneToad: glad to help :) [23:39:07] alnokta: maybe it is me, but it looks like I never see the source messages. [23:39:27] shouldn't be a problem, Skizzerz [23:40:07] siebrand, which source messages? [23:40:12] cool, I just need to make sure it doesn't have any weird bugs in it before uploading the patch [23:40:20] alnokta: any? [23:40:50] alnokta: f.e. 'tog-externaleditor' => 'Use external editor by default', [23:41:48] I'd expect to be abl to find the text "Use external editor by default" in relation to 'tog-externaleditor' somewhere, because that is what a translator has to translate to his target language. [23:42:10] siebrand, yes i see what you mean [23:42:19] the ids only are available [23:43:29] alnokta: yes, and that is quite useless. [23:58:40] 03(mod) Special:Import may not invalidate page caches properly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12336 summary (10brion)