[00:01:02] *Duesentrieb eyes Skizzerz [00:01:14] *TimLaqua grins [00:01:32] Skizzerz: it doesn't matter what type of quotes are used in that case. [00:02:07] Skizzerz: also... wiki markup? huh? [00:02:22] wfmsg wont' process wikitext [00:02:30] single is generally the right thing. but it doesn't matter in this case anyway. [00:02:34] hmm... maube you could get clever about it... [00:02:58] Skizzerz: and you want to be able to enter it into the system message as wiki text? and need html to putput it? [00:03:01] I suppose if you ran the text through the parser after you got it from wfmsg on the php side. [00:03:20] Skizzerz: use wfMsgWikiHtml [00:03:47] of, i guess, you can also use wfMsgExt - it has a gazillion modes. [00:04:02] *Duesentrieb pokes Sasoriza [00:04:46] *Sasoriza sits up [00:05:31] read back [00:06:27] Sasoriza: that'S the most powerful variant, but tricky to use. use wfMsgWikiHtml [00:06:35] "take wikitext, give me html" [00:06:52] read up on the everal variants of wfMsgXXX in GlobalFunctions [00:07:03] o_O [00:07:13] err... [00:07:46] you are using the message in ImagePage.php, right? so, it has to be turned into html at some point, so it can be sent to the browser... [00:08:24] now, depending on how things are handeled in the code, this might be done later on, so you would want to keep wiki text. but i doub it - especially since you said that wikitext didn't work when you used wfMsg [00:11:38] read up on all the options of that thing, then. [00:15:22] Sasoriza: what's that? [00:15:23] Sasoriza: huh? implement what? [00:16:31] and... what's that? [00:21:43] where is he!!!! [00:23:16] no [00:23:18] roan [00:23:32] the api dude [00:27:50] Sasoriza: extension dev is crazy [00:28:35] ;-) I mean the process/control [00:28:52] I think MW does an excellent job of making it easy to develop extensions [00:31:27] *siebrand nods. [00:35:17] Sasoriza: lol - http://rafb.net/p/uGTSVA67.html [00:35:33] *Skizzerz tries to fix it when it breaks... unless it's MultipleUpload... I'm totally lost there [00:35:57] extensions don't break... [00:36:01] silly goose. [00:36:19] *siebrand agrees with Skizzerz on the MultipleUpload thingie. [00:36:27] what's it do? [00:36:33] er... is there a bug report? [00:36:59] indeed [00:38:43] no, they become incompatible [00:38:46] ;-) [00:39:12] Sasoriza: look at bizzwiki. ;-) [00:40:06] yo [00:40:52] i'm pretty sure bizzwiki has a class called ExtensionManager [00:41:07] some unassembled, some on order, some still on a truck from florida :) [00:42:25] I'm really not a fan of the bizzwiki framework - I don't like dependencies. [00:43:10] *Skizzerz doesn't either [00:43:30] but then I feel bad rewriting his extensions to yank out the dependencies [00:43:38] w/e. [00:44:14] Skizzerz: you could easily make a LoadExtensions hook [00:45:52] Skizzerz: well, there's nothing we can do about those [00:46:42] mm.... dinner... [00:46:55] alnokta: not working? it was until recently :) [00:47:05] but not from the web. intentionally. [00:47:46] Sasoriza: because that would be dangerous [00:48:02] Sasoriza: as has been noted before, changing php scripts in any way from the web is a nono [00:48:18] alnokta: o_O... very odd. [00:48:27] *Sasoriza wants functionality! [00:48:34] !sidebar | ponyofdeath [00:48:34] --mwbot-- ponyofdeath: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [00:49:27] Sasoriza: it's impossibel to do this safely from the web. per definition, installing an extension means getting the system to execute php code you provide. which is dangerous. so it's a nono. [00:50:26] alnokta: file a bug report, maybe i'll remember to look into it :) [00:50:56] anyway, i need to go to bed. [00:50:59] n8 ppl [01:04:27] NobodHere: can you try setting $wgDebugRedirects = true; in LocalSettings.php, then try editing a page? [01:04:43] this may show you error messages on edit that are being hidden by the redirect back to the title page [01:11:43] NobodHere: normally yes [01:12:02] alnokta: looks like something isn't quoted right [01:12:04] i'll take a peek [01:13:15] ay ay [01:13:17] yes no quoting [01:15:46] anyone familliar w/ CommentPress? [01:16:47] *alnokta svn ups [01:18:01] hm [01:18:16] NobodHere: is your site publicly accessible? [01:18:31] can you give a url to it so i can poke it? [01:19:00] ok NobodHere your problem is probably that mysql's fulltext search engine defaults to ignoring words shorter than 4 characters [01:19:06] so "ISV" won't turn up in searches [01:19:40] looks like a small wiki, safe to drop down to 2 character indexing. [01:19:45] if you control the host, you can tweak the setting and rebuild the index... there should be a link to the mysql docs from the faq [01:20:18] if it's a shared host and you can't change the mysql server configs, then my workaround recommendation would be to make redirect pages for key terms like that [01:20:30] those'd still come up as exact-title matches in most searches [01:26:56] AaronSchulz: if you think it's ready, then yes. :) [01:27:07] right now i'm still catching up on svn changes, i'll try and be through those tonight [01:27:50] ok; whenever you guys are ready [01:30:28] :) enjoy [01:38:26] maybe one thing at at ime for now ;) [01:46:56] alnokta: i've seen worse :) [01:47:10] io_error: i think we recently killed wfQuery() [01:47:20] a couple versions back [01:47:36] get a database object (with wfGetDB()) and call functions on it [01:47:48] if you build raw sql queries (not recommended), then the query method would be appropriate [01:48:01] but it's nicer to use the query-builder functions [01:48:06] yes since ages and ages [02:13:51] io_error: you find what you're looking for? [02:14:12] k [02:16:10] ;-) I find things are pretty consistent lately. [02:16:49] or maybe an irc room full of extension writers [02:17:08] that'd be this one. [02:17:21] *io_error plants tongue firmly in cheek [02:18:28] speaking of queries, has anyone used the query builder f/ subqueries? [02:18:39] i'm just not familliar w/ the syntax for it [02:20:24] you're getting newlines in *after* tidy? [02:20:55] so you're like appending to the $text var that is passed? [02:21:33] ya, brion changed it to dramatically fail instead of "dying quietly" iirc [02:21:35] ;-) [02:22:07] I like your style. [02:22:22] darkcode: offhand it looks like not all the section names are filled out [02:22:43] and yet... http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-section-admin-gadgets is sitting right there [02:22:44] curious :D [02:23:16] hmmmm [02:23:20] seems happier now after a reload [02:23:23] mysteeeeeerious [02:23:23] and then you asked it to tell you and it said your extension wasn't playing nice? [02:23:56] io_error: when an extension doesn't return anything, it halts further hook execution [02:28:19] io_error: you can override the per-db key part in current versions i think (default is table prefix and db name) [02:28:22] some config var [02:28:45] the rest of that isn't sensitive info, but is all available (user prefs, page id) [02:28:56] *io_error is one paranoid mofo. [02:29:27] io_error: you could just pop in to ParserCache.php and make it go away. ;-) [02:29:49] :D [02:31:28] thx. brion, should that be an option? [02:31:54] TimLaqua: $wgInformationDisclosure = false? :) [02:32:01] exactly! [02:32:07] hehe [02:32:07] darkcode: about once a day when i'm up to date on code review, which i'm not right now [02:32:16] *brion is at december 11 :P [02:33:34] mmmmaybe :) [02:42:19] AaronSchulz: hmm yes, it probabyl should :) [02:50:40] dinnertime [03:18:57] *AaronSchulz does like the idea of transcluding pages out of MW: namespace [03:55:29] darkcode: almost [03:55:57] the syntax was actually {{msg:name}}, the short form {{name}} came in with the template namespace [03:56:17] and the mediawiki namespace was editable at that time, we just had the installer protect all system messages [03:57:36] AaronSchulz: ok [03:57:45] what does it need? [03:58:44] I didn't make titleparts [04:00:32] ALTER TABLE /*$wgDBprefix*/page [04:00:39] hmm [04:01:12] I guess it'll only take seconds on testwiki [04:01:49] less than a second [04:02:48] there's a whole lot of changes in BASE:HEAD [04:06:08] I was pondering it in this channel just a few days ago [04:06:21] just at the pipedream stage though [04:08:49] AaronSchulz: anything is viable in a pipedream [04:09:08] *AaronSchulz things of the Many Pipedreams [04:09:34] TimStarling: oh, just use your consciousness to cause pipe-dream collapse ;) [04:11:44] AaronSchulz: is it ok in your opinion to run FlaggedRevs HEAD with r28384 of the core? [04:12:01] *AaronSchulz checks [04:12:54] 28258 was the last important thing methinks [04:12:57] so that should work [04:15:16] $this->notes = (FlaggedRevs::allowComments() && $wgUser->isAllowed('validate')) ? [04:15:16] $wgRequest->getText('wpNotes') : ''; [04:15:30] you don't need to use a wp prefix on form variables anymore [04:15:44] that was a hack from when MediaWiki required register_globals [04:16:06] i.e. before it was even called MediaWiki [04:16:40] *darkcode loves running php with register_globals disabled [04:16:46] yeah, but I like how 'wp' looks :) [04:17:18] 'This feature is DEPRECATED and REMOVED as of PHP 6.0.0. Relying on this feature is highly discouraged.' [04:17:30] $this->upprovedTags [04:17:34] is that meant to be a word? [04:18:05] lol, "unapproved" [04:19:16] are you telling me you misspelt unapproved 12 times, each time in exactly the same way? [04:20:33] I do cp a lot, so it wouldn't be a surprise [04:21:38] darkcode: actually, if I make a mistake, in that same time period, it will probably be made again [04:33:02] is it random spam? [04:33:22] ConfirmEdit or ConfirmAccount might help [04:33:33] if( !defined( 'FLAGGED_CSS' ) ) [04:33:33] define('FLAGGED_CSS', $wgScriptPath.'/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css' ); [04:33:37] that's a really bad idea [04:33:54] what if the user changes $wgScriptPath after they include the extension file? [04:34:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [04:34:24] there a fuzzy catpchas too [04:35:30] the indenting in FlaggedRevs.php is all over the place [04:37:08] do you have vim, Aaron? [04:37:19] I don't think so [04:37:27] I used to use a crappy editor though [04:37:46] go to special:version [04:38:35] TimStarling: I use Programmer's Notepad 2 now [04:38:46] stiv2k: thats fine for the extension [04:39:14] AaronSchulz: you might want to start with a global search and replace, four spaces for a tab [04:39:46] that will stop the arrows lining up properly though, so you'd have to go back and fix them [04:39:47] yuck...the old programs "auto-tab" did stuff like that [04:40:34] 351 occurances replaced [04:40:37] ;) [04:42:09] some lines were starting with 8 spaces for two indent levels [04:42:16] some with two tabs, some with 4 spaces and a tab [04:42:45] it was a bit random [04:43:08] and kind of obvious when you look at the file in an environment where a tab is 8 spaces [04:43:39] if( !$article || !$article->getId() ) [04:43:39] return NULL; [04:43:42] $key = 'sv-' . $parserCache->getKey( $article, $wgUser ); [04:43:42] # Get the cached HTML [04:44:40] maybe he was writing a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language) program instead of php [04:45:37] Splarka: no it was dev-PHP "smart" auto-tab thing [04:47:16] TimStarling: not sure what the !$article is doing [04:47:54] it's harmless, I was just complaining about the spaces [04:50:58] hi brion [04:51:48] wtf [04:51:54] if( $user->getID() ) { [04:51:54] $oldgroups = $user->getGroups(); [04:51:59] two tabs per indenting level? [04:52:00] 'special:userrights' shows as available to all users now [04:53:26] yo [04:53:42] AaronSchulz: in HEAD? [04:53:54] yeah [04:53:55] ? [04:54:03] doesn't seem to be available on wikipedia [04:54:10] "The action you have requested is limited to users in the group Stewards." [04:54:42] brion: I'm enabling FlaggedRevs on testwiki [04:55:03] werdna re-did userrights [04:55:06] just doing a quick review to work out what the deployment issue is [04:55:23] whee [04:55:34] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php?r1=27735&r2=28650 [04:56:13] brion: ok, but there are not options [04:56:25] but it feels weird using userrights as an IP :) [04:56:35] o_O [04:56:45] that shouldn't be possible :) [04:56:52] for one thing it would break the log :D [04:57:09] "member of" and "available" are empty [04:57:37] which wiki? [04:57:51] so Special:Makevalidate grants and revokes both editor and reviewer, right? [04:58:17] yes [04:58:32] MZMcBride: my testwiki [04:58:34] don't you think it's a little bit oddly named? [04:58:40] I mean, it's not exactly making validates is it? [04:58:46] ah, ok [04:58:49] perhaps it's making validators [04:59:04] better still, we could draw on the english language for our inspiration [04:59:14] and call it "Special:MakeReviewer" [05:01:53] I see you have used nouns for the group names [05:03:46] ugh, time to rename all those lang files and search and replace :( [05:05:48] $specialPageAliases['aaronese']['MakeReviewer'] = 'Makevalidate'; [05:06:08] $specialPageAliases['en']['MakeReviewer'] = 'Make_reviewer'; [05:07:18] the language files should be merged [05:07:22] they all have to be loaded anyway [05:08:34] *AaronSchulz goes crazy [05:08:54] so the CategoryTree language method is no better? [05:09:23] than loading one big file [05:09:26] thing is, any of those languages can be requested at any time [05:10:03] I don't know, I guess we could just break that feature [05:10:11] for certain extensions at least [05:10:42] obviously it's already broken for CategoryTree [05:13:07] the split language file is only going to be at best a stopgap measure [05:13:55] because ultimately I'd like to migrate everything over to something resembling $wgExtensionMessagesFiles, and make it fast [05:16:03] am I just talking to myself? [05:19:25] I guess so [05:21:07] hehe 169 people in the room; someone's always reading... [05:21:09] man I wasted a lot of time separating those lang files out [05:21:26] TimStarling: it just sucks to then put them back in one...argh [05:21:36] well I was just saying that you don't have to [05:22:08] but you can hardly claim it's more efficient when you're loading the special page messages unconditionally in an extension setup function [05:22:18] couldn't you defer that? [05:24:32] exception 'DBQueryError' with message 'A database error has occurred [05:24:32] Query: SELECT fr_rev_id,fr_user,fr_timestamp,fr_comment,fr_quality,fr_tags FROM `page`,`flaggedrevs` WHERE page_namespace = '3' AND page_title = 'Tim_Starling' AND (page_ext_stable = fr_rev_id) LIMIT 1 [05:24:32] Function: FlaggedRevs::getStablePageRev [05:24:32] Error: 1054 Unknown column 'fr_tags' in 'field list' (10.0.0.234) [05:25:21] that's a bit more serious than message files [05:25:46] whee [05:26:43] don't tell me, you just added the field in the last hour [05:26:53] shortly after I added the table on testwiki, right? [05:27:39] fr_tags is the newest field, but it is not *that* new [05:28:14] *AaronSchulz wonders wtf $wgmakevalidatePrivileged is for [05:29:22] alright, so I'm dropping flaggedrevtags, and adding fr_tags, right? [05:30:21] done [05:30:36] yep [05:35:44] wtf? [05:35:51] Saved in stable version parser cache with key sv-testwiki:pcache:idhash:12620-0!1!0!default!!test!2 [05:36:18] that's the parser cache for the wiki with ID "sv-testwiki" [05:36:33] you want testwiki:sv-pcache:... [05:41:01] *AaronSchulz wonders when a message was changed to reference {{MediaWiki:Makevalidate-page}} [05:42:21] that's ok, you ignore me, and I'll fix it [05:44:29] ok, I'll some search and replace on that key to get that right [05:46:15] why did it reference the promotion page? [05:46:29] whatever...I fixed it for en...all I give a shit about for now [05:46:34] that and this parser key [05:47:54] TimStarling: can wikis have IDs with colons? [05:48:50] I said I'd do it [05:50:02] oh, I though you were being sarcastic ;) [05:51:26] Hmm, earlier on test.wp rc I clicked "snow new changes starting from"... and so was on Special:Recentchanges&from=20071220053418 -> 'Below are the changes since 21:34, 19 December 2007' ... [05:51:51] oh, nm am blind [05:58:04] mmm, not quite right [05:59:05] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandbox&diff=29616&oldid=29516 [05:59:15] thats some sub-par vandalism ;) [06:00:12] is it meant to show the current draft on action=purge? [06:03:02] I honestly never cared, and forgot about it, but it probably should not just be showing the current one no matter what [06:03:11] *AaronSchulz looks [06:05:49] I've granted makereviewer and makevalidator to all users on testwiki [06:09:45] eww, global $action [06:10:07] does that officially exist now, or is it still an accident? [06:10:44] probably for b/c, but it is used everywhere [06:11:15] it was originally a holdover from register_globals [06:11:28] and it only continued to exist because it happened to be used on the file level [06:12:12] $action = $wgRequest->getVal( 'action', 'view' ); [06:12:15] $wgTitle = $mediaWiki->checkInitialQueries( $title,$action,$wgOut, $wgRequest, $wgContLang ); [06:12:46] it's not a convention I would have chosen to reproduce [06:12:56] $wgRequest->getVal('action') works just as well [06:13:47] less likely to break for odd entry points [06:19:52] are you going to announce it now? [06:21:59] announce? [06:22:11] hmm [06:24:02] TimStarling: I'm still amused at being able to access Special:Userrights as an IP, though I can't actually do anything from there [06:24:17] complain to Werdna [06:24:30] complain? why? It's funny :) [06:24:45] presumably that's why you want FlaggedRevs on test.wikipedia, to promote it [06:25:11] sooner or later it'll have to be enabled on the large wikipedias [06:25:17] well, I'd like to get people to be playing around [06:25:24] playing myself is not as much fun [06:25:26] and that'll need a lot of promotion [06:25:29] *with [06:25:38] it would help to have some old dumps though [06:26:43] *Werdna reads backscroll [06:32:40] having the 'current groups' be empty is not really expected behavior though [06:33:46] hmm, that would be better, but better still, if you can't do jack at the page, it feels odd for it to be available at all [07:01:28] see includes/zhtable [07:01:35] I'll find you a URL... [07:02:45] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/zhtable/ [07:03:32] particularly this: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/zhtable/README?view=markup [07:05:14] vader897: apply this patch: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12122 [07:05:25] then run maintenance/dumpHTML.php [07:06:52] well, you could write a script to do that [07:10:36] no, it stores it as typed [07:10:47] then converts to whatever variant the user requests [07:11:13] so the source text is, as I understand it, typically a hybrid [07:11:48] amerinese: I mean as the user entered it [07:11:58] so it depends on the policies of the wiki [07:12:15] and I'm told that the chinese wikipedia is very permissive about how people write things [07:12:40] that may have changed lately, but that's how it was a while ago anyway [07:12:53] that's why we have the converter [07:14:03] is that so? [07:14:25] maybe you should go to zh.wikipedia.org and try it out [07:15:14] set your preferences to simplified, then try editing an article [07:16:15] darkcode: ping [07:19:18] JohnMichael: what's your wiki's URL? [07:20:29] vader897: you won't be able to do it on a shared web host, if that's what you've got [07:23:08] JohnMichael: what's your wiki's URL? [07:24:46] please do [07:27:32] mmm, that manual is a path to query rewrite rule, plus signs will be broken [07:29:18] you're not following the manual correctly [07:29:32] it says that your index.php should be in a directory called "w" [07:29:41] yours is in a directory called "wiki" [07:29:51] you should move your whole wiki from "wiki" to "w" [07:29:57] and leave "wiki" just for articles [07:38:10] maybe IRC wasn't the best choice of forum for a guy whose internet connection drops out every 2 minutes [07:39:10] *AaronSchulz giggles [07:46:57] *AaronSchulz wonders what Raymond_afk is up to [07:47:14] it's more of a module than a script [07:47:21] the relevant code is in languages/LanguageConverter.php [07:47:26] mostly [07:47:47] it also does serbian latin/cyrillic conversion [07:48:02] with different tables obviously [07:51:07] AaronSchulz: announcing on de.wp: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projektneuheiten#20._Dezember [07:51:17] TimStarling: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meow&stable=1 [07:51:26] the ogg doesn't want to play :( [07:51:34] only for the stable one [07:52:26] how are you writing out the ParserOutput? [07:54:11] ewww [07:54:17] $wgOut->mCategoryLinks = array(); [07:54:17] $wgOut->addCategoryLinks( $parserOut->getCategories() ); [07:54:17] $wgOut->mLanguageLinks = array(); [07:54:17] $wgOut->addLanguageLinks( $parserOut->getLanguageLinks() ); [07:54:18] wrongly [07:54:32] use $wgOut->addParserOutput() [08:04:30] I have things to do [09:39:49] http://comics.go-girly.com/filler/girly_timeforlove.gif "never trust wikipedia" *snicker* [11:37:12] enwp uses JS at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js (and some CSS and templates) [11:37:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NavFrame for overview [11:37:47] hey Splarka :) [11:37:52] rar [15:43:06] ;-) [15:43:08] classy. [16:10:55] wfSpecialUserlogin() [16:26:15] Nikerabbit, my original plan was just to change wfMsgHTML and wfMsgExt(...'escape'...), but Brion pointed out there are corner cases where that breaks. Like outputting raw JavaScript: you don't want document.write( '' ); to . . . hmm . . . actually wait, we do. [16:26:18] *Simetrical scratches head [16:26:33] Uh, yeah, I dunno. [16:26:55] Maybe we should just make it, I only did it differently because I was vaguely afraid of incurring Brion's wrath. :) [16:27:09] *just make it the same [16:27:22] *brion rumbles [16:27:29] who dares invoke my wrath? [16:27:41] hehe [16:27:55] *Simetrical hides [16:28:12] *Simetrical goes off to study for his Chemistry test that he has to leave for in . . . about one hour. [16:28:17] 'escape' is only used for html output (is it? if not, maybe fix those cases) [16:29:51] something in UserMailer [16:37:45] how do I make svn ignore everything changed in a file? [16:37:56] in git, there's git ignore for that [16:37:56] ignore or revert? [16:37:59] ignore [16:38:12] it's a data file of unilinky (the seendb...) [16:38:21] tell me too when you know [16:38:29] as you can imagine, it gets B.I.G. (current >20MB) [16:39:18] HardDisk_WP: there's the svn:ignore property. see svn help propset [16:39:22] you mean deleting its content? [16:39:25] note that it's per directory (non-recursive) [16:39:46] :) [16:39:47] you can also set properties from a file - i find it handy to maintain my svnignore list in a file [17:19:02] ieuan: sure, just set $wgEnableUploads = true; in LocalSettings.php [17:35:00] ieuan: by default, the 'images' subdirectory in your wiki [17:57:21] just committing work done before I go to bed [17:57:51] and I think I'll have to do some christmas shopping tomorrow, so that commit might be it for a while [17:57:58] nighty night [17:59:07] what do you think about the idea of moving dumpHTML to an extension? [17:59:15] I guess the job control stuff could go there too [17:59:34] it's possible now because I did a 3 line patch to Skin.php to make it possible to define skins in extensions [17:59:58] we can backport that to 1.11.1 in order to fix 12122 [18:05:04] good night [18:05:27] ludc: particular pages or everything? [18:06:08] ooooo-kay? [18:06:29] good luck to you too ludc [18:26:40] brion: can you SVN up flaggedrevs on testwiki? [18:27:24] moment, in the midst of something [18:28:27] !r 28713 [18:28:27] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=28713 [18:29:25] AaronSchulz: just the extension? [18:29:31] yeah, but wait... [18:29:34] ok [18:29:52] review submission is acting odd [18:30:37] ( [18:30:39] :( [18:32:26] brion: well, please sync anyway [18:32:44] ok [18:33:13] working fine on my testwiki, but there it is taking me to the formal review page; adding an extra step [18:33:44] ok, up'd the dir [18:33:57] for test wiki i shouldn't have to run a sync... [18:38:31] Guest1: brion is our dump guru ) [18:38:44] Guest1: and just ask your question there :p [18:52:29]