[00:09:30] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10l8qjvx002) [00:14:41] brion-imac: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCrovnNGdSg weee [00:16:41] 03brion * r29139 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: quick hack in another one... next time generalize this maybe [00:21:44] hmmm... that's not working... [00:22:05] anyone know how to get form values after they're submitted [00:30:12] skiz: POST or GET? [00:30:19] POST [00:30:52] don't think you can, unless the page echoes them usefully, or unless you do something before submit like add them to the action of the URL as faux-GET echoes [00:31:44] I'm defining the value field of the input box, yet it isn't storing to that value [00:33:47] if you want to test a POST form, you can try setting the action="http://www.cs.tut.fi/cgi-bin/run/~jkorpela/echo.cgi" [00:33:51] a nice echo script [00:35:33] ok... how do I set that? [00:35:49] well, I mean, if you're trying to debug what data exactly is getting posted [00:36:15] yeah, but how do I set that in the action [00:36:28] in javascript? [00:36:49] in PHP, preferably [00:36:52] oh, nm then [00:37:00] *Splarka is script-centric [00:37:04] ignore everything I've said ^_^ [00:37:04] :P [00:37:13] 03(NEW) Disable upload on it.wiktionary for non sysop users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12466 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (federicoleva) [00:37:26] *Skizzerz is writing an extension, but the data that's supposed to be getting set isn't being set [00:38:02] if( $wgRequest->wasPosted() ) { [00:38:33] check for that type of thing in quite a few .php files in various extensions and core components for methods of getting posted form data [00:38:43] eg in protection form, $this->mReason = $wgRequest->getText( 'mwProtect-reason' ); [00:39:26] just figured out one problem... I had the input and the submit button sharing names [00:41:51] ooh, progress [00:42:01] I went from nothing happening to a PHP fatal error [00:42:23] parsing error? [00:42:34] happens a lot to me. [00:43:29] oh, and just wondering: how do I create a show/hide template? (like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden) [00:44:05] KemCab: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NavFrame [00:44:46] oh... [00:45:10] it requires a bit of sitewide JS, and a bit of sitewide CSS, and optionally some templates to make it easier to use the various tags [00:45:21] no, it was because I changed how I was passing values into the function, but I forgot to change the function calls xD [00:45:36] i add it to common.css and .js, not replace it, right? [00:45:58] right, just the bits you need [00:46:32] "Collapsible tables" and "Dynamic Navigation Bars" from Common.js [00:49:13] doesn't work. [00:50:35] did you add the bits to both MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Common.js as per that page? [00:50:35] and then purge browser cache? [00:50:44] yes. [00:51:13] it doesn't show the show/hide button. [00:51:28] if one should exist, that is. [00:51:46] URL? [00:52:06] URL of what? [00:52:18] oh, wait, I tested it here: http://wikigrounds.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:KemCab/sandbox [00:54:01] http://wikigrounds.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js [00:54:04] http://wikigrounds.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css [00:54:08] *ahem* [00:54:50] sorry, i thought you meant editing it from somewhere else [00:54:55] oops. [00:54:57] ??? [00:55:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NavFrame#Setup [00:55:17] do what it says [00:56:05] i went into skins/common/common.js [00:56:10] :P [00:57:20] that isn't used in monobook [00:57:27] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10tony1) [00:57:54] all right, something's happening. [00:58:23] check if I did it right, it looks strange to me. [01:02:29] the CSS is applied but not the JS, odd [01:05:23] try one instead of two "navFrame"s [01:14:10] does tim laqua hang around in here? [01:14:12] tried, but nope. [01:15:11] Splarka: does version matter much? [01:17:21] might, but not seeing any JS errors, and getElementsByClassName (added to wikibits.js in later versions) isn't used in that version of navframe [01:19:06] i'm looking at wikipedia, there's something about collapsible tables, what's the difference? [01:27:41] I have a wiki running on postgres 8.2 which I either need to move to mysql or postgres 8.1 anyone have any suggestions on how I would go about doing this? dumping and importing doesn't seem to work at all. [01:31:14] There isn't some general export to wiki format which can be imported on some other wiki install is there? [01:43:58] hmm, does wikipedia run on svn mediawiki from trunk/phase3 ? [01:48:34] 03(NEW) Show only other people's edits on Special:Contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12467 15enhancement; normal; Wiktionary tools: General; (hippytrail) [02:02:01] is there anyway to tweak Special:Random so that it loads from Image/Media ns? [02:02:04] *also loads. [02:03:09] Special:Random/Image *only* loads from ns6 [02:04:14] that works for me. [02:04:30] now, how about Special:Newimages. Anyway to change the row of 4 to, say, 5? [02:04:42] I'm currently doing {{Special:Newimages/4}} which is nice, but I'd love 5 instead. [02:05:01] Commons does that, I believe with CSS. go have a look [02:05:09] ah, interesting. thanks. [02:06:55] hrm. it must be an elegant hack, if so. [02:07:03] the image gallery output is a table, with four TDs per TR. [02:10:08] any reason why the title blacklist uses new lines instead of lines beginning with *, like the other blacklists? [02:16:22] the effect of using a newline makes it look liked when viewed its all on one line [02:17:41] like as if only a single title is being blacklisted [02:18:29] does anyone know what gives the Category > Sub > Sub footer thing at the bottom of http://en.marveldatabase.com/Image:Wolverine_006.jpg? [02:22:26] could be css or javascript to a change to there skin [02:22:37] err or a change to there skin [02:24:05] Morbus: see http://en.marveldatabase.com/Special:Version for likely culprits [02:24:13] yeah, been going through there already :) [02:25:02] I use javascript in myskin.js to change the title to use page > sub > sub [02:25:15] hence the suggestion of javascript [02:45:19] 03aaron * r29140 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): UI tweaks and XHTML stuff [02:56:31] anyone have a flash player extension they like to use? [03:43:31] Happy new year/ny's eve, folks! If I have open registration disabled, what's the easiest way to add a new user, in 1.11? [03:43:58] Create it with a sysop user? [03:45:01] Dashiva: Not sure what you mean exactly [03:45:25] Create a sysop? No. Am I a sysop? Yes.' [03:46:08] You create it the same way you would create a user normally, except you create it for someone else [03:46:20] Sasoriza, just go to Special:Userlogin while logged in already. [03:46:24] And click "create an account". [03:46:53] oh, ok, I knew it had to be simple... been a while [03:57:43] I'm trying to assign bot status, and used the alternative method for 1.11 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights_management#MakeBot). Do I still need to dl Extension:Makebot? I don't see any "select user"/"grant bot status" options. [04:01:09] oh, nm, I figured it out [04:10:56] what's the best botware for Vista? [05:00:33] _\|/_ HAPPY _\|/_ [05:00:33] /|\ NEW YEAR!!! /|\ [05:00:42] not yet here [05:01:15] mwahaha, premature celebration. :P [05:01:45] EST [05:02:08] XD [05:19:12] *darkcode wonders why Title Blacklist doesn't use * (lists) to indicate titles to blacklist and why .*?_on_wheels doesn't seem to be blocking pages with on_wheels in it [05:29:35] darkcode: remove the ?_ [05:30:00] and the * is easily worked around... i just added a space before the line start [05:31:24] well *? is suppose to prevent it from acting greedy, and it works fine for .*?/index.php [05:32:25] I don't want it matching non_wheels or pron_wheels [05:32:52] is this on a WMF wiki? [05:32:53] or anything else that might end with on [05:32:56] yes [05:33:03] which? [05:33:08] Wikibooks [05:33:17] English Wikibooks [05:33:18] careful with the index.php one [05:33:45] i just had a discussion about that one; it can be helpful to catch bad bots... [05:34:30] and i think you want .*_?on_wheels [05:37:53] well on WB we just have been page protecting any pages ending in index.php, so that's why I did that [05:38:16] when they pop up [05:38:30] makes sense, i just know that someone told me tonight not to do that on en.wiki because it helps the stewards track bad bots and bad users, esp. cross-wiki [05:40:21] Greetings [05:40:32] hello [05:40:34] and I think .*_?on_wheels is just as bad because it can match pron_wheels, because the .* will match pron and the _? will be ignored since its optional [05:41:14] meh. [05:42:53] Just a quick question: I'm writing a small stand-alone tool based on some code from Mediawiki parser. Of course I'm releasing it on GPL but I'm wondering who I must acknowledge for the original work. Is the list of people in "README" file (from SVN) updated or can you give me a link/pointer/something where I can get the correct list? [05:43:40] (sorry for the poor english, I'm almost drunk due to new year eve celebrations ;-) ) [05:44:58] I would think you could limit it to the list of people who the commit history shows for the file the MediaWiki parser is located in [05:47:13] darkcode: thank you [05:47:56] bit I'm not a copyright lawyer so I could be wrong [05:48:00] err but I'm not [05:50:42] I'm going to use the names from the revision history of branches/REL1_9 parser file for now, I can expand it if some lawyer or contributor asks ;-) [06:03:55] "As I already explained: i18n is for developers, L10n is for translators. If you choose to be a developer, why do you choose to translate!?" <- okay, developers aren't allowed to translate things now? [06:35:30] 03(mod) Mod of Uploading Interface to encourage copyright compliance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12452 (10mattbisanz) [06:40:55] GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "And further, if I were fortunate enough to be elected your President, I'd call for a National Summit of Nations to create a new partnership � a Partnership for [Progress] and Prosperity." [06:40:58] "This Partnership would assemble the resources of all the nations of the world to work to assure that Islamic states that are threatened with violent Jihad have public schools that are not Wahhabi madrasas; that they have micro-credit and banking, the rule of law, human rights, basic health care, and competitive economic practices." (Governor Mitt Romney, Remarks At Yeshiva University, 4/26/07) [06:42:18] hmmmm "micro" ehhhh [06:42:26] why not standard? [06:43:35] I'm sorry, Mitt08, but this channel is not one of political discussion [06:46:23] This channel is for people to obtain help with configuring MediaWiki to suit their needs, and to help developers of the web solution and its extensions collaborate [06:47:09] *qsheets hates politics in non-political places [07:00:34] dang... [07:02:24] lol [07:11:22] bye all, have a nice day (or night, or wathever :-) ) [07:47:43] what's the point of the minor edit box? what does it change? [07:51:10] People can hide minor edits in the rc if they want to see only important ones [07:52:45] chuck, if you're only fixing some typos you should check this box. [08:04:41] it also marks the edit as 'minor' in various other places, like watchlists and history [08:53:30] I've got some questions about setting up a wikifarm. [08:53:44] Anybody eager to spend five minutes with me now? [08:57:58] *qsheets hides in corner [08:58:54] *qsheets hopes Hojjat doesn't find him [09:00:47] okay, qsheets, I know you're there. Put your hands on your head and come out! [09:01:17] crap, i left the light on didn't i..... F*** [09:01:19] now, seriously, I really want to know, what happens when we run update.php on a wiki farm with shared source code [09:01:32] which db is updated? [09:01:53] *qsheets is drunk [09:02:37] dude, you really wanna get arrested today! [09:03:09] jk... what type do you got? [09:03:41] type? [09:03:52] Vodka? Scotch? Martini? [09:06:30] no...champagne [09:06:44] you gotta know the occasion [09:09:48] *qsheets believes all connected are updated [09:10:33] as that would be the concept [09:22:52] hey, how do i add references with the tags as on wikipedia? [09:23:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#References [09:23:38] Moniker42: the link you posted answers that [09:23:43] what is your question exactly? [09:24:05] how do i add references on my own wiki, the tag does nothing [09:24:12] i'm guessing i need an extra package of some sort? [09:24:42] oh [09:24:51] yes, you need to install an extension named "Cite" [09:24:52] !Cite [09:24:52] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [09:24:57] thanks [09:25:02] no problem [09:27:02] 03huji * r29141 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler.i18n.php: Added Persian translations [09:27:13] salam Hojjat [09:27:19] salam [09:27:20] How are you doing? [09:27:24] so os [09:27:27] so so [09:27:33] u? [09:27:38] long time no see [09:30:39] BLAHHHHHHHHHHHH [09:31:32] :-? [09:31:58] *qsheets had bad tasting snack [09:35:12] so i have two pages that are nearly identical, except in one, the body {} background-color covers the entire page, and in the other, it only extends to the bottom of the content - the empty space below is white [09:35:15] what's up with that? [09:36:10] check validator [09:36:31] hmm... how do i set the homepage of my website to the homepage of the wiki? [09:36:48] Moniker42: redirect [09:36:52] not a mediawiki question, really... but hey i'm already here ;) [09:36:59] qsheets: validates fine as XHTML 1.0 Transitional [09:37:08] twincest: both? [09:37:10] (also, the problem only happens in firefox, not IE, which is odd) [09:37:11] qsheets: yes [09:37:43] twincest: try firefox 3b2 ... FF 2 isnt as forgiving [09:38:03] i'd rather work out why the pages are different :) [09:38:27] link? [09:39:35] hang on, let me upload a static copy [09:39:39] gaagh.. wtf? [09:39:39] Warning: require_once(/extensions/Cite/Cite.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mounted-storage/home74a/sub002/sc41977-VFUP/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 143 [09:39:55] Moniker42: /extensions? i doubt such a directory exists [09:40:18] well it does [09:40:44] i followed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [09:40:51] you put your extensions directory into the root of your computer's filesystem? [09:41:06] twincest: that isnt it [09:41:08] ¬.¬ [09:41:19] that's not even possible, as it's shared hosting :) [09:41:27] and Moniker42 it says $IP/extensions [09:41:53] Moniker42: right. so you probably don't want that in require_once [09:42:26] Moniker42: the actual page you wanted was http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php [09:42:47] ah.... [09:43:02] *Moniker42 undoes his earlier actions and follows those instructions [09:43:15] twincest: if Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason said it is require_once then it is [09:43:18] actually, i only need to change localsettings [09:43:28] qsheets: huh? [09:43:39] i'm not saying not to use require_once. i'm saying the path being required is wrong [09:43:46] qsheets, i'm surprised my IRC client is willing to render those names :) [09:43:56] developer of MW and creator of extension [09:44:14] Moniker42: you shouldn't be [09:44:34] i know who avar is [09:45:10] twincest: it's Ævar [09:45:21] <(^^,)> [09:45:24] we call him avar, since that letter is harder to type (and avar is his IRC nick) [09:46:08] ... and you just pinged him 3 times [09:47:53] argh! [09:48:46] avar avar avar [09:49:12] avar: i'm mad at you [09:49:44] your cite extension made my Version page go blank [09:49:54] http://moniker42.com/wiki/index.php/Philosophy [09:50:03] it broke again /o\ [09:50:19] LMAO [09:50:36] Moniker42: do you know how to copy [09:51:00] of course... [09:51:17] ROFLMAO at Moniker42 [09:51:32] i take it i need all of the extra language TXT files, then? [09:52:01] NO [09:52:17] you made the Cite files wrong [09:52:22] Moniker42: copying the viewvc history isn't going to work. you need to download Cite.php and upload it to your web server [09:52:32] i did that... [09:52:36] yeah [09:52:44] Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [09:52:46] no, you didn't. you copied the viewvc history page [09:52:47] oops [09:52:57] how the hell did i manage to do that? [09:53:00] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.php?view=co [09:53:11] b/c you didn't pay attn [09:53:28] ... and http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.i18n.php?view=co [09:54:13] If there's one thing I learned from hacking mediawiki it's not to release software [09:54:20] It escapes and leaves a bloddy trail of QA! [09:54:36] avar: can you help my cause? [09:55:19] I haven't poked that stuff for two years, I have no idea how it works:) [09:55:24] avar, you will be hounded to your deathbed with repeat questions and vague pleas for help [09:55:30] lol [09:56:35] hm, firefox is rendering one page as application/xhtml+xml, but the other as text/html, even though content-type for both is text/html [09:57:10] qsheets, i used the files you linked me to and i am still getting http://moniker42.com/wiki/index.php/Philosophy [09:57:44] Moniker42: the page you just linked looks fine to me. try a force reload [09:58:04] ah good [09:58:10] looks fine here too [09:58:27] yea, ctrl-f5... looks fine [09:58:58] and the references work too \o/ [09:59:20] Moniker42: better get to work... looks like you've got a lot of broken links [09:59:27] heh [09:59:33] those are all the lectures i haven't written up yet [09:59:44] and the exam is two weeks today! [10:08:34] more of mattis^ , just what the doc ordered [10:08:37] lol [10:09:10] are we to be treated with a third, do you think? :) [10:09:33] maybe if 1 times out ... [10:10:57] Moniker42: there are three [10:11:19] mattis^, mattis1, and mattis2 [10:11:35] ah, there's a mattis^ - because there are an exponential number of them :) [10:11:44] lol [10:50:56] 03grondin * r29142 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Names.php: Adding Kotava language (avk) [10:55:31] 03(mod) Show only other people's edits on Special:Contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12467 +comment (10hippytrail) [12:33:39] *Hojjat waves to Simetrical [12:34:10] 14(INVALID) High-precision block times are misinterpreted as time of day and duration - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8554 +comment (10huji.huji) [12:39:45] 03grondin * r29143 10/trunk/extensions/ (23 files in 23 dirs): Localisation updates for extensions from Betawiki (2008-01-01 10:00 UTC) [12:49:26] 03siebrand * r29144 10/trunk/phase3/languages/ (Names.php messages/MessagesAvk.php messages/MessagesKsh.php): [12:49:26] Revert changes for avk and ksh to previous version. [12:49:26] * avk has no language code yet (expected in early 2008) [12:49:26] * ksh update broke a lot of things (unmaintained) [12:55:59] 03(mod) Allow preventing blocked users from editing their talk pages ( case-by-case basis when $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit = true) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8440 +comment (10huji.huji) [13:05:54] 03siebrand * r29145 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesKy.php): [13:05:54] * remove messages from ky [13:05:54] * update RELEASE-NOTES [13:18:59] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 +comment (10alefzet) [13:19:23] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12145 (10alefzet) [13:35:22] 03(NEW) New Patch to includes/EditPage.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12468 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (ermwiki) [13:41:14] 03(NEW) update to messagesid (1) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12469 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (stanley) [13:43:15] 03(NEW) id localization of oversight extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12470 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Oversight; (stanley) [13:46:49] 03siebrand * r29146 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (14 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-01-01 14:30 CET) [14:01:11] 03siebrand * r29147 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision.i18n.php: (bugzilla 12470) Add Indonesian by borgx [14:02:45] 03(FIXED) id localization of oversight extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12470 +comment (10siebrand) [14:08:10] 03siebrand * r29148 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Names.php: Update local name for Sassarese to Sassaresu [15:18:53] simple question : how do I 'hide' the history tabs completely from anyone other than 'sysops' and above ? [15:19:16] a link in mediawiki will be helpful (I searched but didn't find :( ) [15:19:30] Hide only, or restrict? [15:19:45] hide so that no one can see the past history [15:20:00] of course sysops and above should be able to see it :) [15:20:19] ermm what did you mean by 'restrict' ? (english isn't my first language heh) [15:20:23] Well, hiding the history tab won't prevent anyone from going there directly [15:20:43] hrmm so I will have to restrict it right ? [15:20:48] And using diffs will let people see the history anyway [15:20:54] I doubt it's practically possible [15:21:19] ok this is the problem I have in hand now, and I am thinking of a way to circumvent it. [15:23:29] I manage a wiki where people post mIRC scriptlets/codes, since some of them may be harmful for users, I want to edit those harmful pages and hide the past history so that no one can copy them and use them (which may be used to harm other users) [15:24:28] A better solution is to delete those revisions [15:24:46] can I delete a particular revision onlly and not the entire page ? [15:24:51] only* [15:25:14] Not by default, but there are extensions [15:25:44] can you tell me an extension name so that I can use it ? [15:26:13] also the way to 'hide' the history tab (because none of them are wiki genius so that *might* work too heh) [15:27:34] I don't know the name, but I recall seeing it discussed, so I know it exists [15:28:02] hrmm so googling would help. can you tell me the way to hide the history tab ? [15:28:21] Modify the skin template [15:28:34] openbook.css ? [15:28:37] Axis, you should also check to see that your license agreement doesn't restrict your actions in this case.. (for instance, blocking history revisions might not be in accordance with your license) [15:29:06] Axis, you should read the faq regarding removing/adding tabs... [15:29:14] I will do that thanks :) [15:29:32] np [15:36:26] heh there should have been an extension for a pastebin type, there is one SMF integration (I use SMF for the forums) a pastebin would enable by whole site to be interlinked with MW [15:38:54] Anyone know what pywikipedia - "The bot framework only supports the "monobook" skin." actually means? For instance, does this mean I cannot use the mw help mirror script when using a different skin? [15:39:36] hrm. is it possible to force, for all users, the Search to look through the Image: namespace as well? [15:40:48] Morbus, I think they mention something about this in the faq somewhere... [15:40:59] Wiredtape: i just grepped the faq for "search" and didn't see it. [15:41:41] 03(mod) Disable upload on it.wiktionary for non sysop users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12466 +shell (10brovvnout+wikibugzilla) [15:43:17] Morbus, I remember I saw it somewhere, ill let you know if I rememebr [15:43:24] thankee. [15:43:59] I tryed making short pretty paths on my new wiki instal, and now i can't get anything working. I deleted all of the .htaccess settings i entered and i deleted the variabes i entered in LocalSettings.php [15:44:10] any idea how i can make my site work again [15:44:27] right now i get no response but a white page [15:44:42] that'd tend to mean you have a syntax error in your LocalSettings.php. [15:44:50] view your apache error log, and hope that php error reporting is enabled. [15:45:13] ok [15:46:51] 03(FIXED) Disable upload on it.wiktionary for non sysop users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12466 +comment (10jeluf) [15:46:59] can i view the aqpache error log when im not root? [15:47:07] usually, yes. [15:47:13] depends on the host. [15:47:56] is there a ssh command to find out where it is or to simply open it? [15:48:14] ouch. [15:48:28] well, at first, you coulud carefully check yoru LocalSEttings.php [15:48:36] make sure you have quotes, semi-colors, etc., as needed. [15:48:49] the apache error log /may/ tell you more. it really depends if php is configured /to/ tell you more. [15:48:56] yes [15:49:03] generally speaking, the error log is stored in /var/log/apache or /var/log/httpd or /var/log/httpd2 [15:49:04] MrBichel, when entering your url, what do you get? [15:49:07] but it could be any number of other places. [15:49:43] im quite sure its returned to the previus working state since i simply used ctrl + z in my code editor and saved to my server again [15:50:15] www.wiki.accidentdesigns.com - see for yourself [15:50:31] ah, yeah, i see a parse error. [15:50:37] it returns an error in an extension now [15:50:37] not just a "white screen". [15:51:10] if i remove the extensions and the links to them from localsettings.php it returns a white screen [15:51:28] MrBichel, I first recommend you fix the error that you have. [15:51:38] but is there an error [15:51:46] that extension where working fine previusly [15:51:57] and i havent changed anything relating to that [15:52:32] ok, than disable extension and show me what you get. [15:52:49] then tehre is a white screen [15:53:10] see http://wiki.accidentdesigns.com/ [15:54:34] what i modified is $wgArticlePath, $wgUsePathInfo and my .htacces [15:56:15] MrBichel, obviouslly something in your settings is wrong. Can you pastebin your articlepath/usepath and htaccess? [15:56:29] my previus or my current? [15:57:52] current [15:58:17] htaccess: AddHandler php5-script .php¨ [15:58:41] $wgArticlePath, $wgUsePathInfo - i simply removed both of them from my script [15:58:48] is there literally a quote on the end of that? [15:58:50] as they were removed before [15:58:56] cos that'd be one syntax erorr. [15:59:15] MrBichel, what is your script path as well? [15:59:19] yay [15:59:21] $wgScriptPath [15:59:23] there was a quote! [15:59:29] thanks for noticing me now it works [15:59:46] hehe sometimes probles are much simpler than you think :) [16:00:52] hi [16:00:59] hi [16:01:28] I'm trying to get Short URLs works but AFAIK there is no way to have them without have a .htaccess file (or change the web server configuration) [16:01:49] correct. [16:01:53] i'm working on a shared hosting which don't allow to use .htaccess T [16:01:58] s/T/ATM/ [16:02:14] so i assume i can't make short URLs works in any way, right? [16:02:48] does index.php/Monkey work? [16:03:21] indeed i get the main page [16:03:23] what happens if you don't request anything - you just go to / or wiki/? [16:03:29] you get the main page? not a page for Monkey? [16:03:34] yes [16:03:49] yeah, then there's no way ;) [16:04:01] you don't even have path info magick. [16:04:32] clamiax, it sounds weird that your shared hosting doesn't allow .htaccess? [16:04:36] mmh.. is it "clean" to change the index.php file by redirecting the page? [16:04:40] are you sure..? [16:05:04] Wiredtape: yes, it wants i "spam" their sites in order to get virtual money and allow me to buy the htaccess service [16:05:07] Wiredtape: i've seen a few companies that don't do that. primarily due to FUD of security problems. [16:05:10] Wiredtape: i'm on Altervista.org. [16:05:16] oh. that's even worse. [16:06:16] lol... well than I guess that's just the way it is.. and I wouldn't suggest changing index.php, 1) it might change with an update 2) it might cause problems which you can't forsee, in terms of scripts/extensions/includes and anything else [16:06:43] i think i can easily redirect the page by using $_GET['title'] [16:07:50] i have just to replace "/Page_name&bla..bla" with "/index.php?title=Page_name&bla..bla" [16:07:58]