[00:00:56] moment [00:01:11] *Simetrical looks for how to use that spiffy subpage notation . . . although it's not clear how to have that be the target of a form, alas [00:01:26] scapping [00:01:44] Simetrical: can't really do that without js hackery no :) [00:01:52] you can accept as input though easily [00:01:54] Oh well, I can still support it. [00:01:57] should be the parameter give to execute() [00:06:54] 03brion * r29247 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageZh_cn.php: This looks completely wrong, but it now matches SF_LanguageZh_tw.php and compiles, so no longer blocks general software updates. [00:09:18] *Morbus waves. [00:11:11] How fascinating. I somehow made it so that I can change user rights, but *only if I submit the form twice*. [00:11:42] Or more specifically, there is a delay of one form submit after I actually specify what I want to change, and it actually acts on it. [00:11:46] *Simetrical scratches his head [00:13:10] o_O [00:15:31] 03siebrand * r29248 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesVo.php: Add date formatting [00:15:54] No, it only takes two form submits for the changes to display. I see. [00:17:03] $user->getGroups() isn't returning correct info, somehow. [00:17:35] Very strange. [00:17:42] incorrect how? [00:18:38] It's outdated. [00:18:42] But wait, I see. [00:18:56] In trunk it doesn't reprint the whole form when you submit changes? [00:19:02] It just prints the selector thing? [00:20:21] *Skizzerz_Away considers opening up a Userrights feature request [00:20:34] There we go. [00:20:39] Skizzerz_Away, what would it be, while I'm working on it [00:20:39] ? [00:21:00] ability to search by group as well as search by username [00:21:21] brion, what's the point of RELEASE-NOTES notes that deal with fixing intra-release regressions? [00:21:29] Simetrical: yes, it just goes back to the username input form which is a bit annoying [00:21:31] Just to, like, show readers that we really fix lots of bugs, honest? [00:21:34] Simetrical: sure :D [00:21:48] brion, okay, well, now it will redisplay the whole form so you can see your changes worked. [00:21:53] Skizzerz_Away, what do you mean? [00:21:58] not everyone only tracks releases, you know [00:22:19] ok, putting a username into the search form returns all of that user's groups (as it should) [00:22:40] *Skizzerz_Away is proposing adding in an option to search by GROUP name to return all the users in that group [00:23:09] Skizzerz_Away, return all the users in that group how? The form only supports changing one user at a time. [00:23:24] *Skizzerz_Away knows [00:23:40] I'm thinking perhaps linking said names to the userrights form for that name [00:23:44] *for that user [00:24:21] Maybe we should just have userrights links on Special:Listusers? [00:24:33] perhaps... idk [00:28:43] 03simetrical * r29249 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUserrights.php: [00:28:43] More userrights stuff. [00:28:43] * Use GET, not POST, when searching for user. [00:28:43] * Allow subpage syntax. [00:28:43] * Display the form to change rights when you submit a change, so that you can see its effect and adjust if necessary without hitting "search user" again. [00:28:45] * Clean up form names a bit so that they look pretty in the URL bar. [00:29:12] I actually don't think it's a good idea to have userrights on the user list. Too narrow-purpose. [00:29:18] On user pages, sure. [00:29:26] In the toolbox or wherever we put this stuff. [00:29:56] Oh, right, forgot release notes for that last commit. [00:30:30] Ugh, I don't want to mess with the toolbar, MonoBook.php is a mess. [00:30:34] *Simetrical stabs [00:33:51] 03simetrical * r29250 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: RELEASE-NOTES [00:36:40] I need to install CheckUser but I don't have access to the command line [00:37:46] brion: http://bugs.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12374 if you missed it [00:53:01] How do I install CheckUser without command line access? [00:53:26] you could attempt to create all the tables, etc. manually, but it'd be a pain [00:54:15] but how will it work? [00:54:28] should I just upload the files and do the queries myself? [00:55:34] *Skizzerz has never tried it, so... [00:55:43] oh, you might want to look into PHP Shell [00:55:51] ? [00:56:15] I don't think I have access. [00:56:24] KemCab: All that you should need to do is execute the queries in the install.inc (or whatever it's called) and then update your local settings [01:00:12] There aren't any queries in it. [01:00:42] However there are two SQL files, should I just run them? [01:03:34] Simetrical: form changes look good! [01:03:42] *brion syncs it out [01:03:53] Amazing, I didn't cause eight different bugs this time! [01:03:56] Yet! [01:04:02] :D [01:05:25] maybe there time activated bugs, you know the ones that only activate once its released into the wild... [01:08:12] Is there any way to just grab a diff via the api? [01:10:58] 03(mod) Add {{GRAMMAR}} to Polish - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11837 +comment (10xarak) [01:12:02] 03(NEW) Allow templates on image description page to prevent display of image - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12497 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (l8qjvx002) [01:13:26] Cobi: you can do ?action=render&diff=..... i believe to get just the diff [01:13:49] To index.php, api.php, or query.php? [01:13:58] api.php [01:13:58] index [01:14:02] or index :P [01:14:03] Skizzerz: no [01:14:12] oh, action=render, didn't see that part [01:14:46] Ahh, cool. [01:19:11] hmm someone creating new E_STRICT warnings again? [01:21:54] Not me, I think, I have E_STRICT warnings on. [01:21:56] I think [01:21:56] . [01:23:03] Strict Standards: Declaration of UserrightsPage::userCanExecute() should be compatible with that of SpecialPage::userCanExecute() in /var/www/sandwiki/includes/SpecialUserrights.php on line 515 [01:23:10] Okay, so it was me. [01:23:15] I have to check my error settings. [01:23:34] +$wgExtensionMessagesFiles['ContributionScores'] = CONTRIBUTIONSCORES_PATH . 'ContributionScores.i18n.php'; [01:23:43] + wfLoadExtensionMessages('Contribution Scores'); [01:23:46] Oh, one has a bogus &. [01:23:53] I'm wondering how on earth can this work [01:23:54] We don't need &$user as a param anymore, right? [01:23:57] It should just be $user? [01:24:19] objects are passed by reference in php5 [01:24:28] Seems like I didn't set error_reporting on this install. [01:24:31] Won't happen again. [01:25:05] Was thinking of trying to make twinkle into a gadget, but atm it's too restrictive :( [01:25:15] would need something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AzaToth/X3 [01:25:27] 03simetrical * r29251 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Remove useless & that was breaking strict standards. [01:25:42] 'Ello [01:25:59] Skizzers, are you around? [01:26:07] yee think it could be somehow implemented fairly easy?? [01:26:58] I was hoping to figure out how to set my mediawiki to automagically return users to the previous page after login [01:27:42] Skizzerz replied to my forum post about it at mwusers.com, but I don't understand where to enable it still [01:31:08] ohai [01:31:19] *Skizzerz checks [01:31:40] 'Ello, mna [01:31:41] man* [01:31:45] Do you need a link? [01:31:51] no, i got it [01:31:53] Ok. [01:32:00] argh [01:32:10] I don't feel like fix bugs in 03:30... [01:33:04] er, actually a link might be nice [01:33:15] http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21118#post21118 [01:33:34] when was wfLoadExtensionMessages added? [01:33:35] ok [01:33:36] I see the "returnto" parameter in the link, but I guess it's just not working on my installation [01:33:52] it should be enabled by default, is the parameter not working for you? [01:34:22] Nope [01:34:34] eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Cheese [01:34:49] Yes, I heard from other users it should be enabled by default, which is why I am so bummed about it, hehe [01:34:57] then when you log in, you should be auto-redirected to Cheese [01:35:04] what version of mw? [01:35:07] THe latest [01:35:22] 1.11? [01:36:21] Correct [01:36:35] http://alventyr.com/bor/index.php?title=Special:Version [01:36:54] hmm... and how long are you waiting on the "You have now logged in" page before you give up and go elsewhere [01:37:22] because IIRC it doesn't redirect right away, it takes a few seconds [01:38:05] I will sit there and watch it, then have a brain anurism [01:38:14] It won't budge [01:38:42] hmm, there might be a config variable that controls that then. [01:38:45] Not sure what sort of thing could affect it this way [01:39:41] Elrahc> I see the "returnto" parameter in the link, but I guess it's just not working on my installation <-- returnto specifies generation of the "Return to [[Pagename]]." message. [01:39:53] There are no timed redirects in MediaWiki anymore, they're bad for usability and generally annoying. [01:40:07] We never had a timed redirect on login that I remember, anyway. [01:40:45] 03nikerabbit * r29252 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ContributionScores.php: * Nothing to optimise here [01:40:46] "Return to" could still be improved, it's kind of inaccurate a lot of the time. [01:40:59] can't find a config variable for that... [01:41:01] And it could do a 302, theoretically, if it were reliable enough. Just not timed. [01:41:03] Skizzerz, there is none. [01:41:08] Yea, that is true. The other mediawiki owner I spoke with said it was kinda random [01:41:12] It was a miracle that the extension kept working even after those changes... [01:41:17] Return-to messages are just printed, not auto-followed. [01:41:24] I see [01:41:31] So it puts in the url [01:41:43] Really what we'd want is "return to the previous page and print a confirmation message at the top" for things like this. [01:42:11] See http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7129. [01:42:12] Simetrical: really? When I patrol pages on a 1.11 install, it auto-redirects to recentchanges after a bit... [01:42:15] What, saying you were moved back from signing in? [01:42:37] Skizzerz, it shouldn't. Let me look at that. [01:43:08] Elrahc, saying "You have successfully logged in" or similar. Could be omitted for login, maybe, it's fairly obvious. [01:43:26] Kind of like the AJAX-y watch notice box we have nowadays. [01:43:28] Aye [01:43:35] That would be shiny [01:44:26] Skizzerz, are you sure it auto-redirects? It's not happening for me. [01:44:35] *Skizzerz is testing again now [01:44:43] Is it browser dependent or something? [01:44:45] unfortunately the site is slower than molasses =/ [01:45:14] Elrahc, no, this is like HTML 3.0 tech here. [01:45:26] *Skizzerz tests on his 1.12a install in the meantime [01:45:29] hehe [01:46:45] Hope an update makes this an enjoyable experience. Meanwhile, I have to get back to adding stuffs to the wiki. Thanks for the assistance, though. Appreciate it, Skizzerz and Simetrical [01:47:37] No, definitely no code anywhere that redirects for patrolling that I can see. [01:47:48] hmm, yeah, it isn't redirecting [01:48:01] perhaps I was thinking back a few weeks to when it was still 1.9 :P [01:48:15] I removed some timed redirects for like 1.10ish, maybe 1.11. [01:48:18] Could be that was one. [01:49:08] *Skizzerz scurries off to create a few more test wikis for better extension testing [01:51:47] hello world [01:52:22] hello lo [01:52:30] hello lo [01:52:49] I can not get my extensions to be recognized, I did the require_once thing but it does not show up [01:52:59] http://www.shsfirst.org/firstwiki/index.php/Extension:Google_Maps/Usage [01:53:19] hi there [01:53:24] comphappy: that site requires log-in [01:53:26] i'm a new mate [01:53:27] it'd be easier to get help if you enabled anon reads :) [01:53:38] i'm search for a mate [01:53:41] *sigh* forgot about that [01:54:37] ok should work now [01:54:45] the viewing that is [01:54:55] the extension still fails [01:55:01] and the require_once is pointing to the correct location of the extension? [01:55:12] because Special:Version is not showing it installed [01:56:14] quick question, where's the text for the Password reminder come from? [01:57:09] what r u doing [01:57:14] ?? [01:57:14] require_once( "$IP/extensions/GoogleMaps/GoogleMaps.php" ) [01:57:49] me?, admin left and the text is now wrong. [01:58:06] wondering what needs to be done to change it. [01:58:33] comphappy: and you followed the installation instructions exactly? [01:58:41] ok Special:Version shows it now, but the linky still does not wrk [01:59:00] yep only two lines to add [01:59:10] the require and a variable [01:59:18] that's a bit misleading, actually [01:59:28] it's pointing to the usage page on mediawiki.org [01:59:37] not that the page gets copied over in installation [01:59:59] yeah [02:00:25] try using on a page [02:00:41] what r u doin'? [02:01:53] hmm it does work, wonder why the extension page does not [02:02:17] because that's just documentation on the mediawiki.org sit [02:02:19] *site [02:02:24] not part of the extension itself [02:02:29] MrHappy: what's your issue? [02:03:44] the email you are sent when you forget your password. [02:03:57] we have our own wiki and it's out of date. [02:04:07] look at Special:Allmessages [02:04:09] I was wondering how to update it. [02:04:17] ohh, ok, [02:07:08] MrHappy: MediaWiki:Passwordremindertext [02:07:23] you just beat me to it. [02:07:27] just found it. [02:07:39] thanks for that, would never have found it myself. [02:08:15] no problem [02:08:34] I can correct the typo at the same time. [02:24:39] Why do i get this Could not send confirmation mail. Check address for invalid characters. [02:24:46] and the email goes through [02:26:56] 03shinjiman * r29253 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [02:26:56] * Update Chinese translations [02:26:56] * Update Cantonese translations [02:26:56] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [02:58:44] 03(mod) Add {{GRAMMAR}} to Polish - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11837 +comment (10xarak) [03:04:37] Hi, I'm having a problem making a fix to the lucene search daemon on mac os x. Does anyone hereknow anything about it? [03:04:44] here* know [03:05:29] Hiya. I'm writing a simple bot to make some routine posts easier for me, on wikipedia. For various reasons I'd rather write it as an extension to some existing text editor stuff here than use a prepacked package. Do I need to load and post the HTML via http, including all browser related stuff, or is there a way to get and post the markup for a given page that doesn't ask the server to unnecessarily render it when it's not needed? [03:06:33] (Its a non-standard scripting system for the text editor, but has full HTTP get and put abilities, and TCPIP) [03:11:42] 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 (10rene.kijewski) [03:22:30] FT2: you need to use the HTML interface [03:23:18] that's potentially complicated, really the simplest way to do it would be to shell out to pywikipediabot [03:25:28] nodz [03:29:32] question with double redirect: [03:30:09] how does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_price_increases_of_2004-2007 shows the article while http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_price_increases_of_2004_and_later does not? [03:30:24] when both are double redirect [03:34:00] the first one doesn't work for me [03:34:10] are you logged in? [03:34:24] no [03:34:53] *puzzlet notices the first one shows up different from the real article [03:35:07] i guess it's the cache problem then [03:35:50] I guess so [03:36:19] what version have you got? [03:36:33] there's a last modified date in the page footer [03:36:47] "This page was last modified 23:04, 2 January 2008." [03:37:27] and it should've got from yaseo [04:13:18] FT2: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22484066/?GT1=10755 [04:13:30] hmm, that is somewhat of a surprise [04:15:13] interesting [04:15:33] wider significance? [04:19:42] http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/1d/IowaSign.jpg [05:50:40] 03(NEW) Allow editor-control of order of cites expanded at "< references/>" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12498 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (bill.mitchell) [05:51:42] 03(mod) Add {{GRAMMAR}} to Polish - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11837 (10xarak) [06:15:38] I introduced a regression with my latest parser commit [06:16:41] bug 4899 [06:17:17] although includeonly would have already broken it [06:26:31] :( [06:26:44] *AaronSchulz reads http://hecubus.wordpress.com/2006/06/16/911-conspiracy-theory-bullshit/ [06:27:19] TimStarling: 9/11 conspiracies are not even funny anymore [06:27:38] I'm still trying to understand the psychology of it [06:37:34] 03(mod) Missing config option to provide anonymous logging required by german law - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12494 (10romal) [07:26:07] I've found a useful application for strrev! [07:26:12] imagine that [07:26:26] maybe some day I'll find one for str_shuffle [07:31:38] still gay1 [07:32:00] STAY GAY BROTHERS! [07:34:13] 03(mod) Disallow lowercase-initial titles in User and User_talk namespaces regardles of the $wgCapitalLinks setting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5134 (10gangleri) [07:34:56] can you believe PHP has strrev() but no lcfirst()? [07:35:07] oh dear, we appear to have been "pwned" by mrcheerful [07:35:10] there goes all my self esteem [07:41:47] 03siebrand * r29254 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (24 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-01-04 8:36 CET) [07:42:07] siebrand, hi :) [07:42:37] hola, Sasa^Stefanovic. [07:43:24] i'm translating MW:Blockedtext to sr-ec now [07:43:35] and don't know what is "Intended blockee" [07:43:45] twincest: can you believe it has a function to escape strings for C, but no function to escape strings for javascript? [07:43:54] the person being blocked [07:44:29] ok [07:46:13] odd phrasing that [07:46:40] it means the IP, IP range, or username that was blocked [07:47:10] is that in a default message? [07:47:25] yah [07:47:29] default messages are meant to be english [07:47:29] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [07:47:49] preferably english understandable to people other than whoever wrote it [07:47:49] are you saying "Intended blockee" is borderline english? ^_^ [07:48:24] is "blockee" a word? [07:48:30] touche [07:49:19] I don't know if you can add -ee to any verb and call the result english [07:49:47] (this is where Special:Suffixindex would be handy on en.wikt) [07:50:30] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=diff&r1=22640&r2=22641 [07:50:38] oh amidanie1... [07:54:53] 03siebrand * r29255 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: "this site" -> "{{SITENAME}}" in 5 messages [07:58:05] 03siebrand * r29256 10/trunk/extensions/TalkHere/TalkHere.i18n.fr.php: Fix translation error [07:59:01] 03siebrand * r29257 10/trunk/extensions/TalkHere/TalkHere.i18n.oc.php: Fix translation error [08:01:18] 03siebrand * r29258 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): "this site" -> "{{SITENAME}}" in 6 messages in 3 extensions [08:02:25] 04(REOPENED) Usernames with initial-lowercase letters need to be cleaned up across Wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5230 +shell; +comment (10gangleri) [08:03:20] 03(NEW) consistency between site setup and pages of the site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (gangleri) [08:03:22] 03(mod) Disallow lowercase-initial titles in User and User_talk namespaces regardles of the $wgCapitalLinks setting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5134 (10gangleri) [08:05:24] brb [08:13:02] Is there a way to get Special:Allpages to skip certain pages??? [08:13:24] 03(NEW) [[MediaWiki:Antispoof-name-illegal]] should provide information about the illegal and / or blocked characters in / at the wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12500 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (gangleri) [08:19:01] qsheets: just redirects (via css), or put them in another namespace I'd imagine [08:22:01] 03(mod) [[MediaWiki:Antispoof-name-illegal]] should provide information about the illegal and / or blocked characters in / at the wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12500 (10raimond.spekking) [08:24:20] 03(mod) consistency between site setup and pages of the site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499 +comment (10gangleri) [08:31:15] 03(mod) consistency between site setup and pages of the site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:35:35] Splarka: the problem was the calendar was making a page for each event... [08:36:17] *qsheets finally figured out the extension, and is moving all the articles to the new namespace [08:36:30] mmm, spammy [08:36:58] yup [08:41:09] 03(mod) consistency between site setup and pages of the site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12499 (10gangleri) [08:52:18] I'm using the database to move all of them [08:52:37] I dan't need Recent Changes to be spammed [08:52:43] * don't [09:17:50] hey - anyone around? [09:18:04] ask your question [09:18:08] Hey - I am <(^^,)> [09:18:10] *Moniker42 hides from DanDanDan [09:18:19] hi :) [09:18:21] :) [09:18:22] yells "no" and giggles [09:18:25] Moniker42: that's my thing [09:18:57] should i be able to copy all the content across from one wiki to another with copy and paste? [09:19:12] was wondering about how it's recommended to organise articles and things like that. I'm using mediawiki for an internal staff resource, and have a front page linking to "customers" and on there a list of customers linking off. [09:19:28] on the customer page, should they be linked as "Customers:ABC Ltd" or just "ABC Ltd"? [09:20:16] depends on how many customers you have [09:20:17] DanDanDan: depends [09:20:41] Hundreds of customers, potentially hundreds of customer pages [09:20:48] if you have thousands, then maybe some day one of them will have a name that conflicts with something else [09:21:06] with only a few hundred, I would think that situation would be fairly rare [09:21:33] Ok. So, the categories - how do they work? Do I put my customer pages in a category called "Customers" or am I missing the point of categories? [09:21:34] it's best to keep titles on wikis short and simple if possible, to encourage linking [09:21:50] yes you can put your customers into a category [09:22:11] So then I can say "show all pages in the customer category"? [09:22:17] yes [09:22:34] just by clicking the link to "customers" which appears at the bottom of each customer article [09:22:53] hmm. [09:22:55] ok. [09:22:57] what happens if i apt-get install mediawiki on ubuntu? [09:23:15] hmmmm [09:23:26] i ran that, and it doesn't seem to have done anything ;) [09:23:31] Moniker42: you get a rubbish old version installed in a way that no regular mediawiki user can understand [09:23:56] lol [09:24:22] you can get up to 1.10 [09:24:43] i think the problem is with my server and PHP... [09:25:36] yes, Synaptic is telling me the most recent version is 1.10 [09:26:08] you're better off downloading the most recent source [09:26:27] *qsheets continues moving pages via DB [09:26:30] on the other hand, i've just found a package called "wikipediafs" which might eliminate the need for me to start this server in the first place [09:26:56] it doesn't need compilation, and all the files are in the webserver document root, so the usual advantages of packages are not so relevant [09:27:10] i have a personal wiki on some cheap hosting, but the lag is silly and i want to be able to edit it locally and then upload [09:27:50] *qsheets has a personal wiki on DynDNS [09:28:22] Ok, tried that, I think I've got the hang of it now. I've redirected from "Category:Customers" to just "Customers" which was my customer index page, and that works well. Is there anything specific I should be aware of when naming and organising articles, so that I don't have a ball-ache like this to go through again? :) [09:28:53] if you redirect away from a category page, you won't be able to see the category members [09:29:04] the members appear on Category:Customers [09:29:39] I see. [09:30:08] My Customer page has got pretty company images on so I'd prefer to use that, but I'd like the Customers index also underneath - any way to add it to the page, like as a template? [09:30:42] Or should I move the content from [[Customers]] and edit the page made by [[Category:Customers]]? [09:31:05] move content [09:31:11] k [09:31:13] yes, moving would work [09:31:21] aha! [09:31:27] done it, that's pretty smart [09:31:43] put the pretty little images on each company's page [09:32:04] yeah, done that too, but I've got pretty images on the index page, which I don't think you can do on the index can you? [09:32:11] 03(NEW) Localisation of Asturian Wiktionary name - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12501 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (esguil) [09:32:23] no [09:34:05] k [09:45:05] thanks ppl, that's worked really well now :) [09:46:51] so, it turns out that the interaction of and section numbering really sucks [09:47:57] I don't suppose there's anyone here who wants to talk about the parser? [09:48:41] haha [09:48:48] I'll listen. ;) [09:48:48] I want to watch you talk about the parser [09:48:49] no thx [09:49:27] well, we've been talking a lot about parse order, but it probably makes more sense to talk about precedence, like operator precedence [09:50:03] 03(mod) Database collation settings of SMW sometimes do not match MW's - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12059 (10mak) [09:50:28] for instance, comments properly have a very high precedence [09:50:58] and templates have a higher precedence than main-pass stuff like italics [09:51:16] 03(mod) Create Crimean Tatar Wikipedia (approved by subcommittee) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12399 (10alessandro_gor) [09:51:30] but it turns out, the things with the highest precedence of all are , and [09:52:18] so you can do things like {{foo }} and expect to break the template when it's not included [09:52:32] huh [09:52:47] who added the ? :) [09:52:50] me [09:52:59] seemed like a good idea at the time [09:53:42] so users have an expectation that these constructs have the absolute highest precedence, and it's hard to change that now [09:54:44] hello, I still have a problem with mediawiki silently failing when I import (not so) big file (10M). apache2 and php seem to be well configured. There is _no_ error message in the log files or in the browser. [09:55:02] there's a tracking bug, bug 4899, which describes a failure mode whereby clicking a section edit link would take you to the wrong section [09:55:21] I thought I had it completely fixed in the new parser [09:56:11] because I use preprocessToDom() both for section editing, and for generating section edit links, and the document tree generated is presumably the same [09:56:29] the document tree contains information about section numbering [09:57:10] the problem is, it's not the same, because before preprocessToDom() is called, includeonly/noinclude are processed [09:58:12] heh [09:58:28] the obvious solution is to bring includeonly/noinclude into the document tree, with sections and section numbering identical whether the page is being included or not [09:58:50] then you can strip out the suppressed branches when you expand the tree to text [09:59:24] but that doesn't work, because of {{foo }} [09:59:37] includeonly/noinclude can completely change the document tree [10:00:01] so then there's the alternate universe solution [10:00:42] produce two separate document trees, one for inclusion, and one for plain article display [10:01:04] but then you have section numbers in each, and no way to match up the sections [10:01:11] and it's slow [10:02:09] matching up the sections: i.e. section 5 in the include version is which section in the non-include version? [10:02:43] Quick question again, about categories ... any way to get an in-line display of articles in a category on a page? [10:02:45] is test.wp using the old or new parser? [10:02:51] old, presently [10:02:58] !dpl [10:02:58] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see