or whatnot. [17:33:28] Simetrical, sounds like a plan.. :) [17:33:33] Can DPL do this? [17:33:57] not the ul's just generate the same list? [17:34:16] I don't know anything about DPL. [17:34:17] 03(mod) Rollback on en.wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12534 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:37:04] thanks though... [17:37:58] 03(mod) Don't update categorylinks.cl_timestamp when moving page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12584 (10zach) [17:40:53] 03siebrand * r29599 10/trunk/extensions/PdfHandler/ (PdfHandler.i18n.php PdfHandler.php PdfHandler_body.php): [17:40:53] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:40:53] * delay message loading [17:40:53] * add version in extension credits [17:42:45] 03siebrand * r29600 10/trunk/extensions/ProfileMonitor/ (3 files): [17:42:45] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:42:45] * delay message loading [17:42:45] * add version and url in extension credits [17:43:56] 03siebrand * r29601 10/trunk/extensions/Resign/ (3 files): [17:43:56] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:43:56] * delay message loading [17:43:56] * add version in extension credits [17:46:31] 03(WONTFIX) variable expansion in user supplied revert summary and more available variables in said summary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12580 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [17:47:33] 03siebrand * r29603 10/trunk/extensions/Vote/ (Vote.i18n.php Vote.page.php Vote.php): [17:47:33] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:47:33] * delay message loading [17:47:33] * add version and url in extension credits [17:47:47] 03siebrand * r29602 10/trunk/extensions/UserImages/ (UserImages.class.php UserImages.i18n.php UserImages.php): [17:47:47] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:47:47] * delay message loading [17:47:47] * add version and url in extension credits [17:47:48] * comment out "$gallery->setParsing( true );" because of error [17:48:29] 03siebrand * r29604 10/trunk/extensions/WebStore/ (4 files): [17:48:29] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:48:29] * delay message loading [17:48:29] * add version and url in extension credits [17:49:06] Guys, what's the best way to stop Mediawiki spamming? [17:49:29] I've made pages editable only by registered users, but I think someone is using an automated script to create users and spam [17:49:36] And they keep coming from different IPs [17:49:40] There are a variety of extensions available. [17:49:41] !spam [17:49:41] --mwbot-- For more information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see . [17:49:50] And configuration options, too. [17:50:04] mike_jh, I found that the best was the recaptcha tool.. if they are making external links.. [17:52:30] Simetrical: I type ot that the last one was not needed, so you didn't have to use that one as an example [17:52:32] 03siebrand * r29605 10/trunk/extensions/TemplateLink/ (3 files): [17:52:32] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [17:52:32] * delay message loading [17:52:32] * add version in extension credits [17:52:32] * remove some unneeded clutter [17:52:36] Is it possible to make registrations require approval? [17:53:48] Simetrical: and I don't think I understand the bloatness... [17:53:52] AzaTht, regardless, any of the others can be easily retrieved, and it breaks consistency to substitute parameters in reason messages. [17:54:06] mike_jh, there are extensions for that. I think ConfirmAccount is one. [17:54:13] Simetrical: I though the summary parameter was a replacement of the buildin message [17:54:42] AzaTht, you could say the same for edit autosummaries, and auto delete reasons, and whatever else. We substitute parameters in the automatically generated messages only. [17:55:45] gah, there went the possibillity to transform twinkle to use mw rollback :( [17:57:20] the summary parameter is practically unusable if no variable substitution can be made [17:57:37] 03siebrand * r29606 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Update i18n definitions for 7 extensions [17:58:21] as it for the first revents people to add rationale to the rollback [17:58:25] prevents* [17:58:28] Cluebot seems to be using it nicely. [17:58:32] (done for now ;)) [17:58:40] Simetrical: I'm talking about people [17:58:49] didn't know cluebot was an people [17:59:05] a* [17:59:27] An automated tool is an automated tool. [17:59:59] will 'svn upate' overwrite installed patchs? [18:00:08] Simetrical: why would it be so difficult to have the summary parameter to be handled exactly the same as the default summary? [18:00:20] wouldnt' that in reallity unbloat the code? [18:00:50] AzaTht, nope. For the summary message we do wfMsgExt( 'messagename', param list ... ) and the message functions handle it. [18:01:07] hmm [18:01:21] We'd have to refactor/copy the substitution logic. [18:01:37] ok [18:01:45] dorje, not if it detects a conflict. If it finds a conflict, it will mark those and provide diffs that you can look at. [18:02:20] Simetrical: I was hoping I where to be able to minimize the ammount of data sent and recievent from the api [18:02:33] ok [18:03:25] and to be able to count, I would have to download all revisions till that rev [18:03:31] from* [18:07:25] 03(mod) Don't update categorylinks.cl_timestamp when moving page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12584 (10zach) [18:07:44] Simetrical: so not it stands that I have to make three queries just to grab the summary... [18:07:53] makes no sense for me... [18:08:36] I was hoping to minimize that to one query [18:08:51] AzaTht, if you want to provide additional contextual information you will have to get it yourself, yes. This is always the case. If you want queries better suited to your needs, you can ask the API guys. [18:10:39] Hello [18:11:16] I've an SQL error from update.php when I try to upgrade from 1.10 to 1.11.0. Where can I see executed SQL requests to debug that ? [18:12:31] !errors [18:12:31] --mwbot-- To see PHP errors, add this to the very top of LocalSettings.php: error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; and $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [18:12:46] I'm surprised it doesn't give the details of the SQL query. [18:12:52] Surely command-line scripts should do so. [18:13:18] Simetrical: it give a part of SQL but I don't think it is complete [18:13:30] What did it say? [18:13:35] (pastebin if it's long) [18:13:48] Simetrical: though could at least the aditional variables be available to the default sumamry? [18:13:51] summary* [18:14:06] AzaTht, maybe. Open a separate request if you want. [18:15:07] Simetrical: http://pastebin.ca/851080 [18:15:35] Telemac, that's the full query all right. [18:15:46] What version of MySQL are you using? [18:15:57] 03(NEW) rollback parameters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12585 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (azatoth) [18:16:59] Simetrical: roans TODO list has grown pretty much ツ [18:17:23] Simetrical: 5.0 [18:17:44] I was hoping that the only api call would be to check if current revisions is the last one [18:17:50] Telemac, strange. [18:18:02] Simetrical: I think so :) [18:18:06] Telemac, try asking in MySQL, everything from 'Query "CREATE TABLE ...' on. [18:18:16] (they won't care about the stuff before that) [18:18:20] I'm not sure why it would give an error. [18:19:48] (See, we volunteer support people like to blame the other party and send people off to hassle them.) [18:19:50] varbinary? [18:19:59] varchar binary should still work. [18:20:05] Binary is a valid collation. [18:20:23] I'm sure domas would know what the error is, if he's around. [18:20:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Archive_12#Mediawiki_1.11.0_upgrade_error_on_CREATE_TABLE_.60objectcache.60 [18:20:36] that's a similar issue [18:20:50] "Close this -- My environment was not setup correctly." [18:20:55] ?? [18:20:56] Zach_: it's the same issue [18:21:09] Yes [18:21:35] but what need to be setup ? [18:22:01] Telemac: what platform are you using? [18:22:15] linux 2.6.xx [18:22:32] 2.6.22/apache2/php5 [18:22:32] xx ツ [18:22:55] Hi folks [18:23:37] Simetrical: varbinary(255) binary not null default '' [18:23:42] default ''? [18:23:45] on a binary [18:23:46] ? [18:23:48] I have a stupid svn question [18:24:05] AzaTht, well, no, that's not a problem, is it? But it tries to specify a collation on a varbinary. [18:24:11] varbinarys don't have collations, do they? [18:24:27] I've done a ton of work on the OpenID extension (changing to OOPy layout, auto-loading the special pages, update for OpenID 2.0) [18:24:37] Telemac, try manually running the CREATE TABLE query with the word "binary" deleted from "keyname varbinary(255) binary not null default '',". [18:24:38] And I'm realizing that I should probably check the code in on a branch rather than into head [18:24:50] e_s_p, do you have commit access? [18:24:57] Simetrical: yes [18:25:11] Well, I dunno. [18:25:16] Talk to the current author, he's around somewhere. [18:25:20] (What's your SVN name?) [18:25:20] I'm wondering if there's a way to change the branch my working dir is on before committing [18:25:27] Yes, you're talking to him [18:25:49] in cvs there's no way (I don't think) [18:25:58] Oh, geez. [18:26:00] You have to check out on a branch, and copy all of your files over [18:26:06] Didn't you used to use a different name here? [18:26:13] Yes, evanpro [18:26:19] Simetrical: Without binary it work [18:26:19] That clears up a lot. [18:26:22] Different computer, different ID [18:26:27] Not sure how to make a branch in SVN, offhand. [18:26:36] I've done it before. There should be a tutorial somewhere, or some mention in the manual. [18:27:43] Where are update SQL so I can patch it ? [18:27:56] 03(mod) Add Create permission to Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12583 +comment (10huji.huji) [18:28:59] Simetrical: have you noticed that bug 5678 has been fixed in tims new parser? ツ [18:29:20] No. [18:29:30] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions/5678?timtest=newpp [18:30:53] !b 5678 [18:30:53] --mwbot-- http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 [18:30:59] ツ [18:32:23] Simetrical: a question about the bugzilla, shouls old resolved bugs be closed? [18:32:37] If they're resolved, of course, give them the proper resolution. [18:32:56] Simetrical: I meant if they have Status: RESOLVED [18:33:07] No, don't bother with CLOSED or VERIFIED. [18:33:12] We don't use those. [18:33:15] They should be removed, really. [18:33:20] ok [18:33:27] though about http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35 [18:34:15] Is there any way to create a non existing page with preload text, without showing the edit box? so basically I create a page that already displayes the preload text as an article that exists? [18:35:39] Wiredtape, there might be an extension. [18:35:44] Don't know. [18:37:07] If there isn't... what are the functions called when "save page" is done? [18:37:21] You mean, ArticleSaveComplete hook? [18:37:49] See there for how to modify the way mw behaves when an article save is complete [18:38:09] Or, rather, just look at hooks.txt in the docs sub-dir [18:39:16] e_s_p, yeah.. but basically I don't need to modify the way it behaves after.. I need to pass something into the functions that create the page.. so I would have preload text that would be automatically saved when clicking a link.. thus creating a page with preloaded text.. [18:39:49] Right [18:40:00] Well, probably the best way to figure that out would be to look at the code, eh? [18:40:29] Simetrical: was looking at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549 [18:40:40] perhaps it could be time to change this? [18:40:48] or should it be wontfixed? [18:41:25] AzaTht, I don't know what you're asking? Nobody's wontfixed it. [18:41:46] Wiredtape: I've used Article::doEdit() to do that, it might be your best bet [18:41:54] Simetrical: as you where the last to comment on it [18:42:07] . . . and? [18:42:20] either keep the odd behavour (wontfix) or make a breaking change [18:42:25] e_s_p, thanks.. :) [18:43:51] Simetrical: I was thinking that with the new parser, the change could be made [18:44:20] AzaTht, ask Tim, not me. [18:44:26] ok [18:44:39] 03evan * r29607 10/branches/openid_2.0_update/: [18:44:39] A branch for the update of the OpenID extension to use the OpenID 2.0 [18:44:39] libraries. [18:44:39] As it turns out, I also am changing the layout of the entire dang [18:44:39] extension, so it's a lot of instability. [18:45:39] 03aaron * r29608 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Cache some autopromote stuff [18:50:31] 03evan * r29609 10/branches/openid_2.0_update/OpenID/ (14 files): [18:50:32] Updating the OpenID extension for a number of things: OpenID 2.0 [18:50:32] libraries; using auto-loading; change to use SpecialPage sub-classes; [18:50:32] new I18N format. Since there have been a lot of changes, checking in [18:50:32] on a branch rather than on the trunk. [18:50:54] Simetrical: as it turns out, it's actually pretty easy [18:59:08] That's what I recalled. [19:01:42] 03(mod) pre over multiple lines in lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581 (10azatoth) [19:01:57] Again [19:01:58] made a parser test for that bug [19:02:27] Simetrical: could you confirm that patch? [19:02:36] AzaTht, no. [19:02:43] Wait, let me look. [19:02:51] update.php looks for patch-usernewtalk2.sql file, not included in the tar.gz of 1.11.0 I've d/l this morning. Is it present on svn ? [19:02:52] I don't mess with the parser. [19:03:00] Parser tests, okay. [19:03:01] Simetrical: true, but as a parsertest [19:03:08] But I think it's silly to commit parser tests for things that don't work at all. [19:03:12] Parser tests should be for regressions. [19:03:15] So still no. [19:03:18] uh? [19:03:20] It can be committed along with a patch, if any. [19:03:25] flyingparchment: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080111/wl_uk_afp/britainchildrenadoptionmarriage [19:03:38] Simetrical: I though it should work like that [19:03:43] Telemac, it should be present in the tarball. You got it from mediawiki.org? [19:03:56] Simetrical: Yes [19:04:37] Telemac, it should have all needed files. [19:05:03] Simetrical: but should the output be like that? [19:05:24] AzaTht, the output will probably not be fully fixed until the bug is actually fixed. [19:05:33] It might not agree with your output in terms of whitespace, for instance. [19:05:34] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.11/mediawiki-1.11.0.tar.gz [19:05:57] tar -tzvf /tmp/mediawiki-1.11.0.tar.gz | grep patch-usernewtalk2.sql | wc -l ----> 0 [19:06:10] hi guys. I have a (small) problem with a mediawiki hosted on sf.net. the page special:listusers lists no users. is there something that can be configured to list users there? [19:06:15] AaronSchulz: lame, that was non-consensual [19:09:10] Simetrical: true [19:09:13] 03aaron * r29610 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Move down some checks [19:10:06] herroooo [19:11:22] 03(NEW) Change $wguname/$wgNodeName/wfHostname behaviour - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12586 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (alex.emsenhuber) [19:11:29] inquiry for opinions today- am deploying a MediaWiki for our manufacturing software division's support staff. Want to form a centralized repository for solutions, fixes, workarounds, etc ... I'm looking for YOUR opinion on the best way to structure the wiki, and any tips/tricks for integration? [19:11:51] patch-usernewtalk2.sql seems really not to be in tarball [19:19:24] *peers in* [19:19:26] *looks around* [19:19:29] *tap tap tap* [19:25:16] I don't event see patch-usernewtalk2.sql in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_11_0/phase3/maintenance/archives/ [19:25:54] 14(WFM) Template parameters with defaults break inside tables - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4060 (10azatoth) [19:27:20] CardFire: kind of a general question for this crowd [19:28:14] I've been wresting with my own custom application and while this is a great channel for finding explanations of weird wiki behavior or suggestions for specific fixes I think you may have to do your own web design [19:29:46] frieze_: yes, thank you, I see that this is perhaps a more technically oriented channel. I was merely looking for advice and "helpful hints" nonsense :-) [19:30:39] I'm currently dreaming up a psuedo-sitemap (as much as you can make for a wiki, aye?) and only wanted to hear if anyone had "Oh, be sure to avoid [x]" comments [19:34:10] There's a maintenance script to generate site maps for Google, but I don't know if that's what you're thinking of. [19:35:00] how can I replace the internal mediawiki search with new one powered by google ? [19:36:00] 03(NEW) Create Greek Wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chanel5) [19:36:19] :D [19:36:40] :D [19:38:13] any suggestion? [19:39:28] whiles, find or write an extension? [19:39:30] 03(mod) Turn on DidYouMean extension on en.wiktionary.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12329 (10pathoschild) [19:39:51] 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 (10pathoschild) [19:40:15] 03(mod) robots.txt -- exclude ro:VfD - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12546 (10pathoschild) [19:40:17] 03brion * r29611 10/trunk/tools/planet/pt/config.ini: fix EOL style (was DOS, no property set) [19:40:18] 03(mod) Create new prefix WP: for polish Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12515 (10pathoschild) [19:40:34] I don't know how to create an extension like this... mediaWiki explain only parser/tag/special pages extensions [19:41:04] 03(mod) More prominent Simple English Wikipedia Link on en.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12527 (10pathoschild) [19:41:18] 03(mod) Meta-Ticket: DynamicPageList requests (DPL) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12423 (10pathoschild) [19:41:40] 03(mod) Rollback on en.wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12534 (10pathoschild) [19:43:07] 03(mod) Create Greek Wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587 +comment (10robin_1273) [19:43:10] 03(mod) Please make a global Titleblacklist like Spamblacklist on Meta - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12484 (10pathoschild) [19:43:13] AzaTht, if you close a bug as worksforme, you should comment and give the test-case that leads you to declare it not a bug. [19:43:14] 03(mod) Enable more URL schemas/protocols for the english wikinews (mms : and rtsp:) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12204 (10pathoschild) [19:44:57] 14(DUP) Install TitleBlacklist extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12366 +comment (10pathoschild) [19:44:58] 03(mod) Please make a global Titleblacklist like Spamblacklist on Meta - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12484 (10pathoschild) [19:45:40] 03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215 (10pathoschild) [19:46:25] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Lower Sorbian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181 summary (10pathoschild) [19:47:17] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Crimean Tatar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12399 summary (10pathoschild) [19:47:26] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Saterland Frisian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12502 summary (10pathoschild) [19:47:50] 03(mod) Create Wikiversity Greek - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587 summary (10pathoschild) [19:50:10] Simetrical: though it wasn't really necissary for that bug [19:50:19] gah [19:50:19] AzaTht, why not [19:50:20] ? [19:50:27] I'm looking at 4060. [19:51:27] | inside paramters hasn't break templatres since years back if I'm correct [19:52:12] but I can repoen the bug if you want [19:52:36] fisr I need just to rearange the keys on my keyboard [19:55:46] SPQRobin: Do you know why the SpecialInterwiki extension has broken interface messages at < http://pathos.ca/wiki/Special:Log/interwiki >? [19:56:32] slavie: probably revision http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=29583 [19:56:36] 03(mod) Allow Special:Log/rights to be sorted by rights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12571 +comment (10agkwiki) [19:58:19] slavie: that was me, probably. I'll fix it... Give me a minute... [19:58:57] 03(mod) Allow Special:Log/rights to be sorted by rights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12571 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [19:59:15] *slavie nods. [19:59:41] slavie: that's a 'works for me' with the current version... [19:59:54] 03(mod) Arbitrary user's e-mail address sent when blocking another user - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12579 +comment (10agkwiki) [20:00:37] 03(mod) "No such special page" message on special: makesysop with aliases - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12561 (10brion) [20:00:57] Hm. So it's caused by something else, then. [20:01:19] slavie: I guess you are running trunk extensions... [20:01:25] 03(mod) Allow Special:Log/rights to be sorted by rights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12571 (10agkwiki) [20:01:27] slavie: on a 1.11 installation [20:01:55] Yep. [20:02:17] slavie: then your mw version is not supported, I am afraid... (I do not know why) [20:02:57] Hm. [20:03:36] slavie: update or live with it are the only possible solutions I can give you... [20:03:50] 1.11 is the very latest stable release. :o [20:04:03] slavie: extension was updated today. Maybe the version before that still works. [20:04:09] *slavie tries. [20:04:10] slavie: message loading was changed. [20:04:51] slavie: r29241 is the one you'd want to try. [20:07:02] Yep, the previous revision works fine. [20:07:13] Thanks. :) [20:07:55] slavie: hmm, but you *were* running an older version already: SpecialInterwiki (version 14-12-07) [20:08:22] siebrand: no, you didn't change the version date [20:08:41] SPQRobin: ow. I should have ;) (and will) [20:08:55] *SPQRobin has changed the download link on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki [20:09:24] 03siebrand * r29612 10/trunk/extensions/Interwiki/SpecialInterwiki.php: Bump version [20:09:31] Hello [20:10:41] 14(INVALID) formatnum formats template parameters instead of the returning result - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12560 +comment (10brion) [20:11:28] who invented the wiki syntax? [20:11:42] 03(mod) rebuildLanguage breaks linkprefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12563 (10brion) [20:12:14] "the" wiki syntax? [20:12:18] ward cunningham, i suppose :) [20:12:22] brion: hehe [20:12:29] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Lower Sorbian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181 (10N/A) [20:12:51] trying to do a correct syntax parsing outside wiki is pretty difficult [20:13:06] especially the {{, {{{, '' and ''' ambigiation [20:13:17] life sucks [20:13:34] 03(FIXED) New component to be added to Bugzilla - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12564 +comment (10brion) [20:14:11] brion: I know [20:15:05] Friends i need help with my own mediawiki, i don't understand how i add Template's to it [20:16:20] 03(mod) Allow Special:Log/rights to be sorted by rights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12571 +schema-change; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [20:16:45] !templates | fiddan [20:16:45] --mwbot-- fiddan: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [20:17:43] Okey thx!! slavie and mwbot! [20:19:33] Welcome. :) [20:19:48] 03(mod) Configuration script produces invalid HTML code - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12568 (10brion) [20:21:25] 03(FIXED) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5323 +comment (10brion) [20:25:44] Where can I find file patch-usernewtalk2.sql for mediawiki-1.11.0 ? I've just d/l tarball from mediawiki.org again but this update file is missing [20:25:46] slavie: i am going to make an familytree wiki, and i am looking for god templates for it [20:30:24] fiddan: You might try looking at < http://www.werelate.org/ >, the biggest genealogy wiki. [20:31:37] 04(REOPENED) Template parameters with defaults break inside tables - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4060 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [20:35:11] 03(NEW) namespace selector dropdown list should reflect current selection in Special :Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12588 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (uv.wiki) [20:36:27] hello all. anyone wants to help me with use of please? [20:37:05] Hmm, database-locked error message doesn't return the edit form's contents. [20:37:13] That's bad, IE users will lose it entirely. [20:37:17] !ask | Alex_Rave [20:37:17] --mwbot-- Alex_Rave : Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [20:39:31] thanks. my problem is in that: i made template using . and now when i use template 3 times, it's situated in a column [20:39:35] 03siebrand * r29613 10/trunk/extensions/Duplicator/ (4 files): [20:39:35] * use wfLoadExtensionMessages [20:39:35] * put SpecialPageAliases in separate file (aliases.i18n) [20:39:35] * delay message loading [20:39:35] * add version in extension credits [20:39:37] * add 6th para for RecentChange::notifyNew [20:39:49] i have now [20:39:50] default [20:40:03] i have now [20:40:05] {{template}} [20:40:06] {{template}} [20:40:06] {{template}} [20:40:11] when i need [20:40:13] {{template}} {{template}} {{template}} [20:40:49] 03(mod) Arbitrary user's e-mail address sent when blocking another user - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12579 (10brion) [20:42:12] 03(mod) Allow blocked users to edit user talk page at Vietnamese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12582 +shell (10brion) [20:44:34] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Saterland Frisian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12502 (10pathoschild) [20:48:00] if( !$this->hookError == '' ) { [20:48:02] Does that actually work? [20:48:17] It seems inverted. ! surely binds tighter than ==. [20:48:42] Hmm, I guess it works by happenstance. [20:49:13] It should be the same as $this->hookError != '', or just (bool)$this-hookError. [20:49:58] it does work, it doesn't do what the author intended [20:50:18] I assume the author intended $this->hookError != ''. [20:50:29] It seems to do the same thing, just bizarrely and relying on PHP's weak typing. [20:52:06] 03simetrical * r29614 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (EditPage.php Title.php): Some random code cleanup/prettification. [20:53:07] 03brion * r29615 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): [20:53:07] * (bug 12584) Don't reset cl_timestamp when auto-updating sort key on move [20:53:07] Also cleaned up comment and ugly manual query [20:56:54] 03(FIXED) Don't update categorylinks.cl_timestamp when moving page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12584 +comment (10brion) [20:59:26] Simetrical: it's not the same [20:59:41] flyingparchment, how not? [20:59:42] Simetrical: in most cases !x==y is the same as !(x==y), but not when x=="0" [20:59:56] river@hemlock:~>php -r 'echo (!"0" == "") . "\n";' [20:59:56] river@hemlock:~>php -r 'echo (!("0" == "")) . "\n";' [20:59:56] 1 [21:00:42] 14(WFM) Template parameters with defaults break inside tables - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4060 +comment (10brion) [21:00:55] Yeah, I forgot PHP doesn't like transitivity. [21:01:16] '0' == false == '' != '0' [21:01:20] Ugh. [21:02:52] 03simetrical * r29616 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: I doubt we'll get $this->hookError set to '0', but let's head that off at the pass. [21:03:14] Seriously, if they're going to be intransitive, they should at least have '0' == 0 == false != '0'. [21:03:21] At least that makes some marginal degree of sense. [21:04:51] so if I put a function on the WatchArticleComplete hook and the funcion has this->purge() in it then the page will be purged from the cache whenever someone watches it right? [21:05:04] I would imagine so. [21:05:21] just making sure I understand what "this" would represent in that context [21:05:42] Uh, wait a second. [21:05:42] question about $messageMemc - when you use messageMemc in a memcached enabled environment, is there any /process-side/ caching that goes on? that is, are all requests forwarded through to memcached, or will they be responed to by a local PHP hash if they were previously set/read during the same PHP request? [21:05:45] No, of course it wouldn't work. [21:05:48] You need the Article object. [21:05:51] right [21:06:02] Or whatever purge() is the method of. [21:06:05] I thought this might be a different one [21:06:11] purge is an article method [21:06:47] ahh, I see [21:06:53] I was reading the wrong documentation [21:06:57] article is an argument [21:09:32] 03evan * r29617 10/branches/openid_2.0_update/OpenID/ (OpenID.php OpenID.setup.php SpecialOpenID.body.php): Update login to be OpenID-2.0-ish. [21:11:06] 03brion * r29618 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Xml.php): [21:11:06] * (bug 12588) Fix selection in namespace selector on Special:Newpages [21:11:06] Godawful hack... we'll be frequently passed selected namespaces as strings since PHP is such a shithole. [21:11:06] But we also don't want blanks and nulls and "all"s matching 0, so let's convert *just* string ints to clean ints. [21:11:33] 03(FIXED) namespace selector dropdown list should reflect current selection in Special :Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12588 +comment (10brion) [21:13:50] Where can I find file patch-usernewtalk2.sql for mediawiki-1.11.0 ? I've just d/l tarball from mediawiki.org again but this update file is missing [21:16:47]