[00:00:25] <T-Vairus>	$wgEnableUploads		= false;
[00:00:34] <T-Vairus>	exchange false to true?
[00:00:51] <Wiredtape>	yup
[00:00:54] <Suisuisui>	T-Varius: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads
[00:01:04] <T-Vairus>	thanks a lot
[00:01:18] <Rastrojo>	i need one developer
[00:01:33] <Rastrojo>	for a change on es.wikipedia
[00:02:17] <Suisuisui>	Rastrojo: #wikimedia-tech
[00:02:51] <Rastrojo>	Suisuisui: ooook
[00:03:32] <Suisuisui>	enjoy :)
[00:08:33] <fiddan>	hello :) i need 
[00:10:39] <T-Vairus>	wiredtape, how can i automaticly resize the images in the articles - i have uploaded an 1000x500 pixel image and it explode the layout :/
[00:10:44] <fiddan>	Hello! i have problems whit my own wiki.. it's a familytree wiki and i want to add some templates to it, but i dont get how
[00:11:25] <fiddan>	i have downloaded ParserFunctions
[00:12:39] <fiddan>	i want to use this template but i cant..
[00:12:40] <fiddan>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Familytree
[00:14:06] <CIA-40>	03brion * r29630 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[00:14:06] <CIA-40>	* Use only default options when generating RSS and Atom syndication links.
[00:14:06] <CIA-40>	 This should help prevent infinite link loops that some software may follow,
[00:14:06] <CIA-40>	 and will generally keep feed behavior cleaner.
[00:14:06] <CIA-40>	Combined duplicate link expansion from OutputPage and SkinTemplate into OutputPage::getSyndicationLinks()
[00:14:10] <Monobi2>	fiddan, there are templates in the that template ;)
[00:15:01] <Monobi2>	AaronSchulz, can I PM you?
[00:17:06] <Monobi2>	Bdk[a], you around?
[00:17:48] <fiddan>	Monobi2:  okey.. sorry i am new to this.. :) the function i want to create my own family tree but when i copy that text in to my wiki it dont works.. what is it i dont get :) ?
[00:18:08] <Monobi2>	parserfunctions doesn't work or the template doesn't work?
[00:18:13] <Monobi2>	what's the URL to your wiki
[00:20:51] <T-Vairus>	anyone know a side, where is a table with all the sign for the editing section? (for example, to mark something with color)
[00:20:55] <brion>	is it just me or is tab order really shitting on forms in firefox 3?
[00:21:00] <brion>	*shitty
[00:21:28] <Splarka>	T-Vairus: you mean the buttons on top of the edit box or under the edit box?
[00:21:48] <fiddan>	Monobi2: i dont think it is parserfunctions..
[00:22:00] <Monobi2>	what's the URL to your wiki
[00:22:16] <T-Vairus>	splarka: yes, but there more codes to use, or not? 
[00:23:04] <Splarka>	well, you can add buttons at the top with mwCustomEditButtons, and add buttons to the bottom with the CharInsert extension and MediaWiki:Edittools message
[00:24:06] <fiddan>	http://213.114.86.135/wiki/index.php/Huvudsida
[00:24:29] <T-Vairus>	thanks splarka :) i will look it now - bye :)
[00:25:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inline queries with the <ask>...</ask> syntax suppress the display of references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12592 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (temlakos)
[00:28:04] <fiddan>	Monobi2 thank you for helping me 
[00:33:36] <fiddan>	Splarka: hello.. it's seems like my assistance logged off, do u think u can help me?
[00:36:15] *Splarka 	looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Familytree
[00:38:19] <fiddan>	Splarka: yes, i cant copy the code there and make an copy of that familytree, i miss somthing i dont know.. i think
[00:38:48] <fiddan>	that i dont know
[00:39:23] <Splarka>	fiddan: okay, you need all the linked subtemplates and you need htmlTidy
[00:39:37] <Splarka>	and possibly parserFunctions, I don't know
[00:39:46] <fiddan>	okey!!
[00:40:21] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Template:Familytree
[00:40:33] <fiddan>	Splarka: i have parserFunctions, do i also need htmlTidy now?
[00:41:02] <Splarka>	you'll probably need it because that template uses crazy mixed html and wikicode
[00:43:16] <fiddan>	Splarka: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy
[00:43:21] <fiddan>	?
[00:44:28] <brion>	heh... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Size_of_English_Wikipedia_broken_down.png
[00:47:17] <Splarka>	[citation needed]
[00:53:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  formatnum formats template parameters instead of the returning result - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12560  (10brion)
[01:13:55] <Wan-WP>	hello
[01:16:21] <Wan-WP>	I downloaded the latest mediwiki version (1.12alpha) with svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_2/phase3 but now the mediawiki folder is very big (46 MB)
[01:16:34] <Wan-WP>	I can't upload the folder. What have I to do?
[01:23:53] <CIA-40>	03dale * r29631 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 
[01:23:53] <CIA-40>	* improved CMML export
[01:23:53] <CIA-40>	* improved IE7 stream interface css
[01:23:53] <CIA-40>	* stubs for IE6 css support
[02:02:33] <lyn>	I am trying to configure PHP to compile for mediawiki, I am using the standard configure args from the installation instructions and I get the exception about libjpeg (1|o) not found.  I am using RH Enterprise 4 AMD64 and I have tried several things to no avail.
[02:13:38] <XDuxaX>	Hey so, i have a problem with uploading a 50mb file to my wiki page... i browse for the file, click upload... it hangs for about 5 seconds then just erases the fields... i can upload other .zip files no problem.
[02:22:31] <XDuxaX>	ok so it appears i cant upload any file bigger than 15mb
[02:22:38] <XDuxaX>	cuz it lets me upload a file that is 14mb
[02:22:41] <XDuxaX>	but not one that is 16mb
[02:22:48] <XDuxaX>	how do I fix this?
[02:28:50] <Splarka>	XDuxaX: there are up to 3 things limiting the upload sizes: MediaWiki's upload limit, memory_limit in php.ini, and LimitRequestBody in Apache
[02:29:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New mailing list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12256  (10cbrown1023)
[02:29:48] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) New mailing list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12256  (10cbrown1023)
[02:33:06] <Splarka>	XDuxaX: see also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Set_maximum_size_for_file_uploads
[02:33:35] <Chrisgrant_>	is anyone here an admin on mediawiki wiki?
[02:33:40] <CIA-40>	03brion * r29632 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php: wrap a <p> around empty result so it's not on the same line as the paging links
[02:37:23] <Splarka>	Chrisgrant_: Raymond_ seems least idle
[02:39:39] <Chrisgrant_>	well to any admin who may be listening can you please look at my request here: [[Project:Tasks#Task_requests]]
[02:41:55] <mrec>	oh man I have to say mediawiki really sucks ass
[02:42:11] <mrec>	I changed my settings to authenticate useraccount
[02:42:22] <mrec>	it worked for the WikiSysop and it seems to work for the other users
[02:42:33] <mrec>	but it doesn't seem to work for my own useraccount there
[02:43:10] <mrec>	all just because mediawiki is not capable of dealing with (idiots)  spamming those sites
[02:50:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) dumpBackup.php does not backup Main Page and other pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12593 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (ajstadlin)
[02:51:49] <Skizzerz>	mrec: sorry to hear that you feel that way, but MediaWiki simply wasn't really designed to be a restricted environment. Plus, don't hate the software itself for the dysfunctionality of a third-party extension
[02:59:35] <Chrisgrant_>	if your trying to add access control group wiki might be a better option, gime a sec
[03:06:27] <Chrisgrant_>	here we go: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GroupWikiBase
[03:06:52] <XDuxaX>	k so a question... Im running my WIki off of a server with 1GB of ram.. if I increase script memory from 16mb to 100mb it shouldnt make a difference on performace right?
[03:07:09] <XDuxaX>	2GB server rather
[03:40:56] <Chrisgrant_>	Excellent!, I managed to find an admin and I now have my account! 
[03:57:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) AddPage is not passing super_page along - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12594 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[04:05:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AddPage is not passing super_page along - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12594  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[05:07:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AddPage is not passing super_page along - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12594  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[05:57:05] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Apply filter to checkuser usage log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6053  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[05:57:58] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Not all checkuser checks are logged - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11437  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[05:58:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Internationalization of the CheckUser log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11513  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[05:59:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Split CheckUser log into individual, per-wiki logs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8710  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[05:59:40] <amidaniel>	Wow, someone's been a busy bee :)
[06:00:12] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[06:07:22] *amidaniel 	wonders why SpecialProtectedTitles.php is suddnely executable O.o
[06:30:02] *TimStarling 	back
[06:31:16] *amidaniel 	waves to TimStarling 
[06:32:22] <TimStarling>	it was a nice day today, we were just down at the beach
[06:32:31] <TimStarling>	for the first time since we moved to sydney
[06:33:17] <amidaniel>	Must be nice :)
[06:33:43] *Splarka 	would be seen glaring except for all the fog and darkness
[06:37:21] <amidaniel>	Is it really so much to ask that ppl document, at the very least, public abstract methods in base classes?
[06:37:30] <amidaniel>	It feels like Yurik was trying to keep this stuff a secret :)
[06:42:25] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29633 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (4 files): 
[06:42:25] <CIA-40>	* Add a notice
[06:42:25] <CIA-40>	* Remove cruft function
[06:43:36] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29634 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Append
[06:44:50] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: this log looks pretty nice now
[06:45:00] <AaronSchulz>	or maybe the old CU log was just really crappy :)
[06:46:05] <TimStarling>	it was bad
[06:47:01] <TimStarling>	I wrote the whole checkuser extension in less than a day, the logging part was probably only 10 minutes of that
[06:47:37] <TimStarling>	it obviously needed to be upgraded at some point
[06:48:48] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29635 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (SpecialConfirmAccount.php confirmaccount.css): Delay definition
[06:49:16] <amidaniel>	hmm .. what's this "hidename" param in ApiBlock?
[06:49:35] <amidaniel>	"Hide the username from the block log." < -- that's not something admins can do right now, is it?
[06:50:35] <amidaniel>	Oh, it's using rev_deleted stuff. Nevermind
[07:02:34] <nareshov>	Hi, can someone help me with http://wiki.eits.uga.edu/campuswebhelp/index.php/Restrict_Access_to_Your_Pages ? I added a <accesscontrol/> tag in a page for rw access but I also want to allow anonymous users ro access, how do I do that?
[07:02:57] <nareshov>	Oops. The right link = http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Group_Based_Access_Control
[07:03:35] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29636 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedArticle.php FlaggedRevs.php flaggedrevs.css): Bump this up by title
[07:06:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  (10tony1)
[07:08:30] <CIA-40>	03amidaniel * r29637 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (7 files): API: Various docu and clean-up.
[07:13:15] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29638 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Bah, put this here for now, wasn't loading on all pages
[07:14:57] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29639 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/confirmaccount.css: Tweak
[07:18:57] <tokyovigilante>	hey chaps
[07:19:08] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29640 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: Tweak
[07:19:23] <tokyovigilante>	is it just me, or can the wikimedia dump server not respond to http partial content requests?
[07:20:37] <tokyovigilante>	i've got about 700mb of the latest enwiki dump, and neither wget nor curl are able to resume the download
[07:24:31] <CIA-40>	03shinjiman * r29641 10/trunk/extensions/ (23 files in 20 dirs): 
[07:24:31] <CIA-40>	* (bug 7971) Update Kazakh translations for extensions
[07:24:31] <CIA-40>	 Patch by AlefZet
[07:24:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Kazakh i18n updates for extensions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7971  +comment (10shinjiman)
[07:27:03] <nareshov>	Hi, is there a way to go about this - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Group_Based_Access_Control#All_users ?
[07:39:54] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29642 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (3 files): Cache the notice message
[07:50:30] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29643 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount.i18n.php SpecialConfirmAccount.php): Cleanup; don't store the HTML
[07:53:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create Wikiversity Greek - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587  (10zadiak1993)
[07:59:16] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29644 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Message position cleanup
[08:43:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Fatal error in TemplateLink extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12545  +comment (10bertrand.grondin)
[09:10:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  formatnum formats template parameters instead of the returning result - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12560  (10N/A)
[09:22:18] <teme>	hello boys
[09:22:29] <Grondin>	hello
[09:22:52] <teme>	There is italian friends? I not speek english very well
[09:24:12] <teme>	Grondin: can you help me?
[09:24:19] <teme>	sorry for my bad english...
[09:24:28] <Grondin>	d'you speak french ?
[09:24:36] <teme>	I have installed mediawiki on my joomla
[09:24:39] <teme>	no sorry
[09:24:43] <Grondin>	yes !
[09:25:16] <Grondin>	what do you want to know
[09:26:24] <teme>	what can i do to search a keyword in my wiki?
[09:26:45] <Grondin>	have you an URL ?
[09:26:58] <teme>	www.slack4centrino.org
[09:27:02] <teme>	this in my site
[09:27:06] <Grondin>	ok
[09:27:08] <teme>	*is
[09:30:48] <Grondin>	by Cerca
[09:30:51] <Grondin>	buttom
[09:32:00] <Grondin>	teme, very beautiful your wiki
[09:32:27] <Grondin>	For a Search, I saw there is a Cerca link on left Sidebar
[09:33:58] <teme>	this search not entries in wiki....HIMO missing a bot search
[09:35:32] <_wooz>	lo
[09:47:11] <teme>	Grondin: this is my problem
[09:47:13] <teme>	http://www.lyquidity.com/mambo/components/com_mambowiki/index.php?title=Main_Page#Does_MamboWiki_support_searching.3F
[09:47:25] <Grondin>	I go
[09:47:25] <teme>	support_searching
[09:47:53] <teme>	Mambo does not search Wiki test by default
[09:52:59] <Grondin>	I see that
[09:55:19] <Grondin>	I don't know. Why using mambo ?
[09:55:27] <teme>	Grondin: do you know  wiki_searchbot_1.5.8.zip
[09:55:38] <Grondin>	non
[09:59:07] <teme>	Grondin: it works :D
[09:59:17] <Grondin>	:-)
[10:04:21] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create Wikiversity Greek - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:09:21] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create Wikipedia Saterland Frisian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12502  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:09:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create Wikipedia Crimean Tatar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12399  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:09:49] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create Wikipedia Lower Sorbian - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12181  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:12:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create Wikiversity Greek - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587  +comment (10crochet.david)
[10:15:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create Wikiversity Greek - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12587  (10jeluf)
[10:19:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Allow blocked users to edit user talk page at Vietnamese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12582  +comment (10jeluf)
[10:23:57] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29645 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extensions from Betawiki (2008-01-12 11:23 UTC)
[10:54:06] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29646 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesCe.php: Localisation updates for extensions from Betawiki (2008-01-12 11:53 UTC)
[12:16:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install TitleBlacklist extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12366  +comment (10vasilvv)
[12:25:33] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) A special group for testing bots needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12529  +comment (10vasilvv)
[12:31:33] <CIA-40>	03vasilievvv * r29647 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php): * (bug 12536) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page
[12:31:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  +comment (10vasilvv)
[12:41:26] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29648 10/trunk/extensions/Asksql/Asksql.php: Optimize code
[12:47:55] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29649 10/trunk/extensions/BadImage/BadImage.php: Optimize code
[12:51:54] <PunkRock>	bart2386
[12:56:08] <elyezer>	hi all
[12:56:24] <elyezer>	where can i edit the preferences of my wiki?
[12:57:33] <Duesentrieb>	!config | elyezer
[12:57:33] --mwbot--	elyezer: *All* configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can *look* in DefaultSettings.php. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_MediaWiki>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script>
[12:58:52] <elyezer>	Duesentrieb: thank you... 
[13:01:51] <elyezer>	and what about using clean url's
[13:01:52] <elyezer>	?
[13:02:01] <elyezer>	!url
[13:02:01] --mwbot--	To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[13:02:32] <elyezer>	very good bot =)
[13:04:04] <Duesentrieb>	elyezer: i strongly recommend this method: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access
[13:04:29] <elyezer>	Duesentrieb: thank you
[13:10:47] <elyezer>	Duesentrieb: i've the following url http://www.wiki.mandriva-br.org/index.php?title=
[13:11:18] <elyezer>	doing that will be http://www.wiki.mandriva-br.org/Authors for example?
[13:13:17] <elyezer>	Duesentrieb: i've found something let's try
[13:26:09] <josch>	 maintenance/importDump.php will remove all previous data in the target mediawiki install, right?
[13:26:50] <TimStarling>	no
[13:27:03] <josch>	so I have to so this manually via mysql promt?
[13:27:03] <TimStarling>	it does nothing of the kind
[13:27:22] <TimStarling>	probably easier to create a new database using the installer
[13:27:28] <TimStarling>	but suit yourself
[13:27:40] <josch>	okay thanks!
[13:40:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  +comment (10tstarling)
[13:44:20] <CIA-40>	03tstarling * r29650 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php): Revert r29647, as per my comment on bug 12536.
[13:49:52] <Duesentrieb>	!rewriteproblem | elyezer
[13:49:52] --mwbot--	elyezer: use 0) use this method: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> 1) Do not put the files into the document root; 2) Do not map the pages into the document root; 3) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 4) Do not set a RewriteBase; 5) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[13:50:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  +comment (10rotemliss_public)
[13:51:20] <elyezer>	Duesentrieb: i've got it thank you very much
[13:54:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  (10tstarling)
[14:07:19] <BjornW>	hi there, I would to retrieve all categories for use in my skin. Which function do I need for this and where can I find this sort of info?
[14:20:36] <Wan-WP>	hello
[14:21:54] <cosmodad>	hi -- I'm in the process of upgrading from 1.6.7 to the lastest stable. The upgrade page tells me to "Replace all existing files with the new versions from 1.11, preserving the directory structure."
[14:21:57] <cosmodad>	Would it suffice to copy the new, untared files over to the old directory to do so?
[14:24:24] <cosmodad>	or will that leave me with a bunch of old, unused 1.6.7 files?
[14:30:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  (10edwardspec)
[14:31:16] <Duesentrieb>	cosmodad: make a full backup. then (re)move the old files, put up a clean copy if the new stuff, and run the updater
[14:31:19] <Duesentrieb>	!backup
[14:31:19] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[14:31:20] <Duesentrieb>	!update
[14:31:20] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[14:31:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  (10edwardspec)
[14:32:23] <cosmodad>	Duesentrieb: can the updater do the upgrade if the old files aren't in the same directory?
[14:33:00] <Duesentrieb>	sure. the updater does not touch files.
[14:33:10] <Duesentrieb>	it only upgrades the database structure
[14:33:31] <cosmodad>	Duesentrieb: ok, so concerning extensions, the LocalSettings.php and such, I'll have to copy them over later myself?
[14:33:39] <Duesentrieb>	actually having old files around can lead to confusing, and it might even lead to errors, in some odd cases
[14:33:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Increase Commons file size upload limit to 40MB - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12595 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (brianna.laugher)
[14:34:03] <CIA-40>	03tbleher * r29651 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: 
[14:34:03] <CIA-40>	Security fix: escape all URLs, as they are written directly into the
[14:34:03] <CIA-40>	HTML of the page.
[14:34:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  (10rotemliss_public)
[14:34:18] <Duesentrieb>	you can restore your old localsettings by hand, yes. or create a fresh on using the web-installer - but then you have to reconfigure all settings per hand
[14:34:29] <Duesentrieb>	extensions... well, you should probably upgrade them too.
[14:35:25] <cosmodad>	Duesentrieb: ok thanks, I'll try.
[14:41:44] <nikiwaibel>	is it ok to just ask some questions here? i see 181 people, but no talk ...
[14:41:58] <TimLaqua>	ya
[14:42:47] *Duesentrieb 	sees 170 lurkers and a couple of bots
[14:43:07] <Sundance_Raphael>	Duesentrieb: who lurks?
[14:43:33] <Duesentrieb>	all the others :)
[14:46:30] <Sundance_Raphael>	:-)
[14:54:34] <CIA-40>	03tbleher * r29652 10/trunk/extensions/BotQuery/query.php: Fix indenting.
[14:57:11] <Monobi2>	ping AaronSchulz 
[14:59:33] <GerardM->	as to lurking .. not even that .. automated start
[15:00:05] <GerardM->	was just checking if someone was online
[15:02:59] <nikiwaibel>	i'd like to have a template like this: http://rafb.net/p/9gdjlR70.html, and render it like http://rafb.net/p/ZhNdmh56.html.
[15:04:46] <Morbus>	can i do an ifeq without defining the not equal  thing?
[15:05:04] <Morbus>	i'd like to do {{#ifeq: {{{images}}} | 1 | whee }} only
[15:05:09] <nikiwaibel>	propmem is the plural >>s<< thing with the position / positions. is there any way to do this
[15:05:09] <nikiwaibel>	without modifying the wiki install (just in a template)?
[15:05:09] <nikiwaibel>	current real world template: http://www.karate-dornbirn.at/wiki/index.php/Vorlage:Turnier
[15:05:16] <nikiwaibel>	site using the template: http://www.karate-dornbirn.at/wiki/index.php/Turniere_test
[15:13:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) User should be able to get MediaWiki version from any page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12536  +comment (10edwardspec)
[15:13:42] <nikiwaibel>	morbus? see private chat...
[15:26:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Random pages may be offensive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12596 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (alefzet)
[15:30:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Allpages and Special: Prefixindex should have more options - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12597 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (robin_1273)
[15:31:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Random pages may be offensive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12596  +comment (10axel9891)
[15:35:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New mailing list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12256  (10robin_1273)
[15:42:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Change "Site requests" component to " Site creation requests" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12598 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (robin_1273)
[15:43:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858  +comment (10lar)
[15:47:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Split CheckUser log into individual, per-wiki logs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8710  (10lar)
[15:50:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Apply filter to checkuser usage log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6053  (10lar)
[15:57:14] <Grondin>	What about Call extension in http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Special:Call
[15:57:29] <Grondin>	I've done an internationalization file
[15:57:48] <Grondin>	Would be a good idea to commit it in svn ?
[15:58:12] <Duesentrieb>	it wouold be good to put it wherever the extension is...
[15:58:37] <Grondin>	Duesentrieb, I've tested it on my own wiki
[15:59:23] <Grondin>	I think this extension could be interesting
[16:00:11] <Duesentrieb>	but if thextension is not maintained in (our) svn - so why should the i18n file go there?
[16:00:31] <Duesentrieb>	oh, you are suggesting the extension should be added to the main svn?...
[16:00:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New "Site closing requests" component - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12599 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (robin_1273)
[16:00:59] <Grondin>	yes
[16:01:09] <Grondin>	and I advise his author
[16:01:39] <Grondin>	as you want Duesentrieb.
[16:01:56] <Duesentrieb>	Grondin: there's nothing special really bout the wikimedia svn - extensiosn can be maintained anywhere. having it in the "main" svn only makes sense if the main author has access to that, so he can maintaine it
[16:01:58] <Grondin>	this i18n file will be for Betawiki translators
[16:02:09] <Grondin>	ok
[16:02:19] <Duesentrieb>	no idea how "external" extension are managed with betawiki
[16:02:41] <Duesentrieb>	Grondin: note that it's not up to me to decide this anyway - i'm just telling you what i think
[16:02:43] <Grondin>	author Algorithmix (Gero Scholz)
[16:03:01] <Grondin>	do you know him ?
[16:03:48] <Duesentrieb>	i have heard the nick before
[16:03:51] <Duesentrieb>	that
[16:03:54] <Duesentrieb>	err, that's all
[16:13:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New mailing list - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12256  (10robin_1273)
[16:40:52] <tbleher>	Hmm, just saw this: phase3/ $ grep -r getDbKey * | wc -l ==> 19, but getDbKey() is defined nowhere AFAICS, it's getDBKey().
[16:41:28] <tbleher>	Should I do a search-and-replace, or is this too dangerous, as it will change behaviour?
[16:41:34] <CIA-40>	03siebrand * r29653 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (22 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-01-12 17:18 CET)
[16:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configuration script produces invalid HTML code - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12568  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[16:46:38] <CIA-40>	03siebrand * r29654 10/trunk/extensions/ (47 files in 40 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-01-12 17:18 CET)
[16:47:23] <domas>	completely regular pageview: http://flake.defau.lt/mwpageview.png
[16:47:27] *domas 	pokes Simetrical 
[16:48:46] <tbleher>	Actually, it's getDBkey()
[16:49:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create new prefix COM: for Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Eugene.Zelenko)
[16:52:59] <tbleher>	There are fifteen instances of getDBKey(), so all in all 34 places that are buggy
[17:00:21] <AaronSchulz>	domas: hmm, secureandsplit and newfromtext seem to whoop in there ;)
[17:00:49] <domas>	well, first of all, we spend lots of time for tooltips
[17:00:54] <domas>	we used not to. :)
[17:02:55] <domas>	I just thought of new extension 
[17:02:58] <domas>	for developers \o/
[17:06:21] <domas>	bwahahahaha
[17:06:24] <domas>	my CPU profiling is teh failure
[17:06:34] <domas>	it doesn't provide anything even remotely accurate
[17:07:36] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29655 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/flaggedrevs.css: +1 top margin
[17:19:38] <BjornW>	Is there a reason why the active key is not being set in [sidebar][navigation] when I have chosen one of the sidebar navigation links.
[17:29:54] <CIA-40>	03siebrand * r29656 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesId.php: Localisation updates. Updating special pages.
[17:31:17] <CIA-40>	03siebrand * r29657 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki
[17:31:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create patroller group on Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12601 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[17:32:34] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29658 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (ProfilerSimple.php ProfilerSimpleUDP.php): 
[17:32:34] <CIA-40>	aaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:
[17:32:34] <CIA-40>	* ditch CPU profiling from ProfilerSimple, because:
[17:32:36] <CIA-40>	** getrusage() is updated just on end of quant, which is 10ms on our new servers and 1ms on old ones:
[17:32:38] <CIA-40>	*** All CPU profiling before looked reasonable just just just because lots of 0's and 10's sometimes add up to reasonable guestimate.
[17:34:01] <domas>	bwahahahahaha
[17:37:48] <AaronSchulz>	...
[17:39:15] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29659 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProfilerSimple.php: remove Cpu from here too
[17:41:03] <Warpath>	O_O
[17:41:14] <Grondin>	?
[17:41:28] <Warpath>	CIA-40, gone psycho ;p
[17:41:53] <jamasi>	more like midom went postal ;)
[17:51:36] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29661 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProfilerSimple.php: 
[17:51:36] <CIA-40>	* importing livehack for profiling errors output
[17:51:36] <CIA-40>	* fixing some of CPU profile elimination errors :)
[17:53:38] *AaronSchulz 	commits domas to a mental institution
[17:55:38] <domas>	why
[17:57:37] <ThomasV>	because
[17:58:01] <ThomasV>	:-)
[18:06:18] <wikibugs>	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=  (10gangleri)
[18:15:04] <Sebboh>	Hi.  I'm using mediawiki 1.11.0 and I'd like to add a captcha to the user registration page.  How can I do that?
[18:15:38] <Skizzerz>	!captcha | Sebboh 
[18:15:38] --mwbot--	Sebboh: For more information about CAPTCHAs and MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit>.
[18:16:50] <Sebboh>	Danke!
[18:32:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ability to watch "bundles" of sub-pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2308  (10ian)
[18:34:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow users to watch all subpages of a top-level page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12308  (10ian)
[18:34:27] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29663 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/Language/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.ru.php: Localisation updates for extensions from Betawiki (2008-01-12 18:28 UTC)
[18:51:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create patroller group on Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12601   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[18:52:26] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29664 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/Farmer.php: Optimize some code
[18:53:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Users with '@' in their username can not have their userrights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12602 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Prodego)
[18:54:17] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29665 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Clean up notice cache
[19:04:06] <AaronSchulz>	11:00 domas: removing titleblacklist. there's certain level of crap beyond which I won't fix stuff.
[19:04:14] *AaronSchulz 	giggles
[19:04:17] <Monobi2>	O.O
[19:16:32] *Monobi2 	pokes AaronSchulz 
[19:18:41] <AaronSchulz>	moo
[19:18:44] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29666 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: Show counts at main page
[19:19:48] *Monobi2 	pokes AaronSchulz for sysp
[19:19:49] <Monobi2>	*sysop
[19:20:34] *AaronSchulz 	refers Monobi2 to Simetrical
[19:20:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Need a webpage to produce Pie chart according to Graphic Lab' s recommendations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12603 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CharInsert; (hugo.lpz)
[19:21:18] *Monobi2 	pokes Simetrical 
[19:22:50] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29667 10/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.setup.php: Optimize path for extensions
[19:24:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to watch all articles in a category - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1710  +comment (10ian)
[19:24:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Need a webpage to produce Pie chart according to Graphic Lab' s recommendations - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12603  (10raimond.spekking)
[19:26:55] <Forrester>	Hey
[19:27:43] <Forrester>	i have a question: is it possible to make the search searching in all namespaces???? (for all users)
[19:31:07] <Forrester>	noone here?
[19:31:20] <Monobi2>	Forrester, I'm sure it is
[19:31:27] <Monobi2>	just check all the little boxes :)
[19:31:38] <Forrester>	Monobi2: i want to have it before
[19:31:48] <Monobi2>	default?
[19:32:05] <Forrester>	yeah
[19:32:15] <Forrester>	but for all users
[19:33:57] <Forrester>	Monobi2: possible?
[19:34:07] <Monobi2>	yes, it's possible
[19:34:13] <Monobi2>	read da Manual ;)
[19:34:57] <Forrester>	lol....too long to load
[19:37:00] <Forrester>	Monobi2: lol where?
[19:37:08] <Monobi2>	I'll check
[19:38:50] <Monobi2>	Forrester, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault
[19:40:05] <Forrester>	thank you
[19:40:12] <Monobi2>	yup
[19:40:30] *Monobi2 	pokes Simetrical 
[19:43:04] <Monobi2>	hiya GDonato ;)
[19:48:44] <GDonato>	hiya
[19:49:13] <Micromus>	Hi
[19:49:24] <Micromus>	How do I create columns?
[19:49:38] <Micromus>	Not tables, thats way to messy, i just want two-three simple columns
[19:50:47] <T-Vairus>	hi :) what are the differences between mediawiki 1.6 and 1.10? is it possible, that in the 1.6 version many bbcodes are missing? like the mathematic things?
[19:52:30] <T-Vairus>	i mean the menü to editing the article in the top http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1968/wwwwwjr4.png
[19:58:13] <Paintman>	Hi
[19:58:15] <Paintman>	is there any tutorial about customizing the edit toolbar?
[19:59:08] <T-Vairus>	is it possible for the wiki 1.6 version?
[20:06:00] <Micromus>	Anyone? Columns? Is it possible?
[20:06:50] <VeliV>	Quick q. When I try to access my wiki with www-prefix, my wiki removes it
[20:07:17] <VeliV>	ie. Goin to http://www.wiki.com changes it to http://wiki.com
[20:07:21] <VeliV>	going*
[20:15:15] <slavie>	Nikerabbit: Could you add Balkan Romani (ISO 639-3 code rmn) to translatewiki?
[20:16:03] <VeliV>	hmm? Didnt find it in LocalSettings, perhaps its in MySql
[20:17:18] <slavie>	VeliV: Try looking for a file named ".htaccess" in the MediaWiki directory.
[20:27:04] <VeliV>	Thanks for the tip, but there aint .htaccess file in the wiki folder
[20:28:55] <VeliV>	Also, the .htaccess file in upperfolder is empty
[20:29:30] <mkultras>	hey i upgraded my wiki from 1.7 to 1.11 and all seemed to go well, except images in my wiki arent present anymore 
[20:29:41] <mkultras>	are they held in the database?
[20:30:26] <mkultras>	or just in the upload folder
[20:30:33] <slavie>	They're saved in Mediawiki_directory/images.
[20:30:42] <mkultras>	maybe i just zip up my upload folder
[20:32:27] <mkultras>	ah
[20:32:30] <mkultras>	thanks its now called images
[20:32:31] <mkultras>	i get it
[20:32:36] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, ping
[20:32:47] <mkultras>	it used to be upload/ and then like every letter of the alphabet
[20:35:08] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Allow users to watch all subpages of a top-level page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12308  +comment (10pathoschild)
[20:35:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ability to watch "bundles" of sub-pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2308  +comment (10pathoschild)
[20:39:05] <mkultras>	does the new images folder have that same structure as the upload folder did before? or did that change?
[20:41:46] <mkultras>	ah, it does apparently
[20:49:06] <Sebboh>	Hi.  Suppose I want a page to redirect to an external URL.  How might I do that?  Specifically, a the MyWiki:About page.
[20:49:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Random pages may be offensive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12596  +comment (10dungodung)
[20:50:16] <dungodung>	that's old...
[20:50:22] *dungodung 	bitchslaps wikibugs 
[20:55:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow downloading multiple image files in a compressed archive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7866  (10hugo.lpz)
[21:08:39] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) image alt text should be compulsary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443  +comment (10martineznovo)
[21:15:33] <bulldogg597>	hi, is it possible to install the latest mediawiki when using php4?
[21:15:49] <Jack_Phoenix>	no.
[21:15:59] <Jack_Phoenix>	you need php 5 for the latest version of MediaWiki
[21:16:09] <bulldogg597>	k, which is the latest version that supports 4?
[21:16:36] <Jack_Phoenix>	1.6.10, as per topic :)
[21:16:44] <bulldogg597>	k thx
[21:17:49] <bulldogg597>	any major updates from 1.6.10 to 1.11 ?
[21:18:35] <Jack_Phoenix>	a lot, actually
[21:18:43] <Jack_Phoenix>	1.6.10 sucks, there's no other way to say that
[21:18:44] <bulldogg597>	:)
[21:18:46] <bulldogg597>	such as
[21:21:33] <Wiredtape>	Hey, it there any way to extract single lines from an article.. or scan an article for lines for instance?
[21:22:00] <Wiredtape>	specifically scan wikitext.. and not the parsed article...
[21:22:22] <ThomasV>	Wiredtape: in php ?
[21:22:59] <Wiredtape>	extension... ?
[21:24:54] <Wiredtape>	maybe I should try to explain better.. I'm trying to figure out what they did here to make it work like it does: http://www.wikinvest.com/user/Chikchak .. if you register you can add education/job and other information.. looking at the wikitext behind it.. it seems something has to be scanning it to build the html from it..
[21:33:36] <CIA-40>	03grondin * r29668 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/Language/ (FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.hr.php FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.ru.php): Localisation updates for extensions from Betawiki (2008-01-12 21:28 UTC)
[21:38:42] <Wan-WP>	hello
[21:39:21] <Wan-WP>	I set $wgEnableUploads = true; but I still get a error message that uploading would be disabled...
[21:39:39] <DevilOnLine>	did you already clear your cache?
[21:39:41] <Skizzerz_Away>	Wan-WP: is your /images directory permissions set to 777?
[21:40:09] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: Yes, I cleared my chache
[21:40:20] <Wan-WP>	Skizzerz_Away: How can I check that?
[21:40:29] <DevilOnLine>	are you on windows or linux Wan-WP?
[21:41:02] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: I don't know, but I think the server is on linux...
[21:41:06] <Wan-WP>	but I'm not sur
[21:41:08] <Wan-WP>	+e
[21:41:22] <DevilOnLine>	can you FTP to your server?
[21:41:40] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: yeah
[21:41:55] <DevilOnLine>	Then you should be able to right click on your images folder and check the permissions
[21:42:03] <DevilOnLine>	everyone should be able to read, write and execute
[21:43:22] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: Oh, I see. 
[21:44:10] <Wan-WP>	not everybody has permission to write
[21:44:14] <Wan-WP>	as I can see
[21:44:44] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: I set it to 777
[21:44:49] <DevilOnLine>	ok
[21:44:54] <DevilOnLine>	and then try again, see if that works
[21:47:10] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: No it doesen't  work :(
[21:48:35] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: I settet wiki/images folder to 77
[21:48:37] <Wan-WP>	7
[21:48:52] <Wan-WP>	but it doesn't work - What have I to do now? 
[21:49:06] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, ping again :P
[21:50:43] <DevilOnLine>	let me think
[21:51:56] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: okay :)
[21:52:50] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: I set the complete wiki folder to 777; but it doesen't work either
[21:53:02] <DevilOnLine>	which version of mw are you using?
[21:54:00] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: 1.11
[21:56:04] <warddr>	hello; what's wrong with this: http://kinderwiki.net/index.php/Speciaal:Oversight
[21:56:20] *DevilOnLine 	will brb
[21:56:25] <Wan-WP>	DevilOnLine: I installed a lot of MWs but something like that did never happen
[21:57:30] <warddr>	Er is een syntaxisfout in de databasequery opgetreden. Mogelijk zit er een fout in de software. De laatste query naar de database was:
[21:57:31] <warddr>	    (SQL query verborgen)
[21:57:31] <warddr>	vanuit de functie "sosGetRevisions". MySQL gaf the foutmelding "1146: Table 'kinderwiki_main.hidden' doesn't exist (localhost)".
[21:58:03] <NotAFail>	warddr: you haven't created the hidden table apparently
[21:58:21] <warddr>	how do i have to do that?
[21:58:46] <NotAFail>	easy way: open up phpmyadmin, find your database, go to the sql query tab
[21:58:56] <NotAFail>	and copypaste the stuff from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Oversight/hidden.sql?revision=19541&view=markup there
[21:59:01] <NotAFail>	and execute the query :)
[21:59:08] <warddr>	ok
[21:59:09] <warddr>	ty
[21:59:11] <NotAFail>	np
[22:03:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Activate Extension:LanguageSelector on wmf wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12604 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Aphaia)
[22:04:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Extension:LanguageSelector on wmf wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12604   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[22:49:09] <CIA-40>	03aaron * r29669 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (ConfirmAccount_body.php SpecialConfirmAccount.php): 
[22:49:09] <CIA-40>	* Add another notice refresh point
[22:49:09] <CIA-40>	* Use master db, as this is well cached, to keep notice up to date
[22:51:19] <domas>	\o/
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29670 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (LoadBalancer.php Wiki.php): 
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	Few sanity things for database activity:
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	* Provide function to COMMIT master connection in case there were any changes
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	* Use it at cleanup, instead of sending too many COMMITs to all slaves
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	* Don't acquire master connection, if no updates are to be done
[22:51:29] <CIA-40>	* Don't care about closing database connections, let PHP do that (would close HTTP socket few nanoseconds earlier)
[22:58:54] <archivist>	ooooo domas unbalanced code with no close!!!
[23:02:52] <domas>	archivist: evil?
[23:03:16] <archivist>	na /me has done naughty things as well
[23:04:15] <archivist>	but come to thiink of it have you seen sara golemans string article
[23:05:20] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, you around yet ?
[23:07:17] <Simetrical>	Yes, why?
[23:08:45] <Simetrical>	You want sysop on mediawiki.org?
[23:09:41] <AaronSchulz>	<b>Notice</b>:  Undefined property:  LoadBalancer::$getWriterIndex in <b>C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\LoadBalancer.php<
[23:09:45] <chuck>	how does mediawiki do redirects?
[23:10:13] <AaronSchulz>	domas: I love those pretty notices :)
[23:10:13] <Simetrical>	chuck, when you visit a page, it checks whether the title is marked as a redirect in the database.  If so, it redirects you appropriately.
[23:10:14] <domas>	AaronSchulz: damn :)
[23:10:23] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29671 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: 
[23:10:23] <CIA-40>	Well, logging out is an action, where people don't want to have any of their their credentials still sit in browser.
[23:10:23] <CIA-40>	Actually, keeping a session is still bad. And trying to ensure that they don't see cached content... Well, thats wrong idea.
[23:10:23] <CIA-40>	See, if someone is logged out, he is anonymous and deserves to see cached content as everyone else.
[23:10:25] <CIA-40>	So, let's destroy all cookies.
[23:10:29] <domas>	AaronSchulz: which line?
[23:10:35] <chuck>	Simetrical: i mean how does it do the redirect
[23:10:53] <Simetrical>	chuck, it's not an HTTP redirect.  It just displays different content.
[23:11:00] <chuck>	oh
[23:11:28] <domas>	ah, found stupid typo
[23:12:20] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, yuppers
[23:12:26] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, import is fine if you give that out
[23:12:33] <Simetrical>	Monobi2, so just for import?
[23:12:37] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, I just wanna move pages from meta over ;)
[23:12:45] <Simetrical>	What accounts do you have on Wikimedia sites?
[23:12:47] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, yeah. I mean, I can help with other tasks.
[23:12:55] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, [[m:User:Monobi/matrix]]
[23:13:05] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29672 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LoadBalancer.php: damn, how did this typo slip in :)
[23:13:06] <Monobi2>	I have lots of accounts :)
[23:13:11] <domas>	meh
[23:13:18] <domas>	I wonder if I get my SVN access suspended
[23:13:23] <domas>	after things like 29671 :)
[23:14:06] <Monobi2>	29671?
[23:14:14] <Monobi2>	did you turn rollback on :P ?
[23:14:26] <domas>	not funny
[23:15:12] <domas>	ok
[23:15:15] <Monobi2>	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29671 
[23:15:18] <domas>	my next big fight - page_restrictions :)
[23:15:38] <domas>	Monobi2: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=29671
[23:16:20] <Monobi2>	okay...
[23:17:00] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, ping.
[23:17:05] <Simetrical>	Monobi2, oh, seems we have an "import" group indeed.
[23:17:10] <Simetrical>	Let me see if I can add people to it.
[23:17:18] <Monobi2>	Okay.
[23:17:28] <Simetrical>	Monobi2, your matrix thing doesn't list your account on MW.org.
[23:17:34] <Simetrical>	User:Monobi?
[23:17:37] <Monobi2>	Yeah
[23:17:52] <Monobi2>	I have Monobi and Monobi2 on IRC because they won't set +u on my nick 
[23:17:54] <Simetrical>	Hmm, no, I can't add people to import group.
[23:17:55] <Simetrical>	Let me see.
[23:18:02] <AaronSchulz>	heh
[23:18:18] <Monobi2>	Well, I'm not too rouge for sysop ;)
[23:18:19] <Simetrical>	I'm apparently trustworthy enough to promote bureaucrats, but not importers.  :)
[23:18:27] <Monobi2>	:P
[23:18:44] <Simetrical>	Monobi2, kind of new, and no knowledge of or experience with the MediaWiki software that I've seen.
[23:18:51] <Monobi2>	I understand
[23:19:16] <Monobi2>	Up to you.
[23:20:15] <Monobi2>	Simetrical, hold on a second :)
[23:20:17] <Simetrical>	domas, could you set bureaucrats on mediawiki.org able to add and remove the 'import' group, pretty please?  :)
[23:21:04] <domas>	how? :)))
[23:21:17] <Simetrical>	domas, editing CommonSettings.php?  :)))))
[23:21:35] <domas>	meh
[23:21:41] <domas>	did you know, that this can be done with 1 query?:
[23:21:41] <domas>	                  411 Query     /* Article::pageData 127.0.0.1 */ SELECT  page_id,page_namespace,page_title,page_restrictions,page_counter,page_is_redirect,page_is_new,page_random,page_touched,page_latest,page_len  FROM `page`  WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'Main_Page'  LIMIT 1
[23:21:42] <domas>	                  411 Query     SELECT /* Title::loadRestrictions 127.0.0.1 */  *  FROM `page_restrictions`  WHERE pr_page = '1'
[23:21:42] <domas>	                  411 Query     /* Title::loadRestrictionsFromRow 127.0.0.1 */ SELECT  page_restrictions  FROM `page`  WHERE page_id = '1'  LIMIT 1
[23:21:44] <domas>	:)
[23:22:18] <Simetrical>	domas, you don't mean to suggest the existence of such a construct as a join, do you?
[23:22:26] <Simetrical>	(Not that a join is even necessary for the last one.)
[23:22:40] <domas>	last one is old-style PR
[23:22:48] <domas>	second one is new, but returns NULL in most of cases
[23:22:58] <domas>	so I can just JOIN and put in COUNT(*) there
[23:23:44] <Simetrical>	domas, why not do a left join and remove the LIMIT?
[23:24:38] <domas>	could work too
[23:25:21] <Simetrical>	Marginally more bandwidth, probably marginally less latency.  :)
[23:25:42] <domas>	well, if there're no restrictions, COUNT(*) would provide same latency
[23:26:00] <domas>	if there's single restriction, one could cheat too ;-)
[23:26:06] <domas>	thats how I cheat with usergroups 
[23:26:36] <domas>	as we don't have group_concat now, it is doing count(group),max(group)
[23:26:48] <domas>	so, in case of 0 and 1 you don't have to issue separate queries :)
[23:27:53] <Simetrical>	That's sneaky.
[23:30:21] <domas>	meh
[23:30:30] <domas>	if I'd persuade Tim to merge ParserFunctions into core
[23:30:38] <domas>	we could go for <40ms response times
[23:30:43] <domas>	or <35
[23:30:51] <domas>	saw some 47'ers recently
[23:31:25] <domas>	mmm, <30
[23:31:42] <domas>	that would be kind of tripled performance in a week :)
[23:32:29] <domas>	http://www.nedworks.org/~mark/reqstats/svctimestats-weekly.png \o/
[23:32:38] <domas>	thats without today's fixes
[23:34:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow bureaucrats to add and remove 'import' group on mediawiki.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12605 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:36:23] <SPQRobin>	#mediawiki-i18n
[23:36:28] <SPQRobin>	oops
[23:36:58] <SPQRobin>	typed wrong thing :-S
[23:39:13] <domas>	<!-- Served by srv188 in 0.042 secs. -->
[23:39:14] <domas>	bwahahahaha
[23:39:16] <domas>	getting closer
[23:39:17] <domas>	:)
[23:41:21] <domas>	lalalalalalala
[23:41:33] <domas>	page_restrictions issues left until orgasm
[23:42:00] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Users with '@' in their username can not have their userrights changed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12602  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:42:02] <domas>	mmmm, that still would make 3 real queries to load a page
[23:42:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) @ (at-sign) needs to be totally invalid for usernames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12581  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:46:22] <domas>	mmmm, OggHandler & ParserFunctions made more monolith would strip off >15ms :))))
[23:46:53] <datura>	moin
[23:51:14] <AaronSchulz>	domas: geez, don't cream your pants
[23:51:40] <AaronSchulz>	<b>Notice</b>:  Undefined property:  DatabaseMysql::$lastQuery in <b>C:\Server\xampp\htdocs\MW\includes\LoadBalancer.php</b> on line <b>561</b><br />
[23:51:42] <domas>	oh, I broke something
[23:51:48] <domas>	damn
[23:51:56] <domas>	was that same typo
[23:51:59] <domas>	right, yeah, it was
[23:52:50] <Simetrical>	domas, <b>Notice</b>:  Undefined property:  DatabaseMysql::$lastQuery in <b>/var/www/trunk/phase3/includes/LoadBalancer.php</b> on line <b>561</b><br />
[23:53:00] <CIA-40>	03midom * r29673 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LoadBalancer.php: should have some coffee - one more typo :)
[23:55:09] <AaronSchulz>	Simetrical: that userrights bug is actually kind of serious ;)
[23:55:18] <Simetrical>	AaronSchulz, which?
[23:55:25] <AaronSchulz>	the @ one
[23:55:58] <domas>	\o/
[23:56:22] <Simetrical>	AaronSchulz, not serious, the user should just be renamed to a legal username.
[23:57:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Allow bureaucrats to add and remove an import-from-meta group on mediawiki .org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12605  summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:57:29] <AaronSchulz>	how many accounts have '@'s?
[23:58:05] <Simetrical>	AaronSchulz, I don't know, the toolserver took like ten minutes when I tried to query enwiki before I gave up.
[23:58:12] <domas>	I like my errors per lines ratio
[23:58:18] <domas>	it must be highest in industry
[23:58:18] <domas>	:)
[23:58:31] <AaronSchulz>	domas: you don't get paid ;)
[23:58:43] <domas>	ok, it is 'least errors per dollar'
[23:58:48] <domas>	:)
[23:59:14] <AaronSchulz>	x/0 = meow???
[23:59:40] <domas>	:(
[23:59:56] <domas>	least dollars per error!
[23:59:59] <domas>	better