[00:41:00] 03(NEW) Apostrophes in page titles causing page content to disappear - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12749 major; high; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (rad) [00:46:34] anyone familiar with what constitutes a minimal "stub" page, as mentioned on Special:Statistics? [00:47:28] it looks like it comes from maintenance/updateArticleCount.inc.php, function ArticleCounter() [00:48:00] is there some way to export a template and all the templates it depends on, recursively, to help copy it to another wiki? [00:50:22] no [00:50:59] some of the most complex templates it's not even possible to calculate what templates it depends on until it's called with parameters [00:51:13] stuff like {{flag}}, {{convert}} [00:54:12] sure, ignoring that, just following templatelinks [00:54:44] imagine a template: {{InsideDiv|foo}} that calls a parameterless template:
{{{{{1|}}}}}
[00:54:59] so just following templatelinks [00:56:57] carl-m: you could copy/paste the list of templates (removing asterisks and "(protected)") to Special:Export, maybe [00:57:05] I'll have to write something [01:20:58] carl-m: ping [01:21:21] Splarka: have you seen the updated Special:Export? [01:21:35] yes, with include templates, but maybe not what he meant [01:21:54] *MZMcBride goes to test the templates option [01:23:39] Im running some page titles through the API http://wikibondev.org/wiki/v/Better_take_unstructured_content_in_%27byte-sized%27_chunks [01:23:56] what can I do to fix those %27's and not get that error? [01:24:55] I tried both urlencode and urldecode [01:52:05] "Due to the requirement to produce test cases and achieve interoperable implementations, current estimates have work [on HTML 5] finishing in around ten to fifteen years." :/ [01:53:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screens_of_death <-- ROFL. [01:56:25] has anybody installed firebug lite on wikipedia or toolserver? [02:44:46] I'm trying to figure out a way to see a complete list of my MediaWiki users. [02:44:53] Any suggestions? [02:47:16] Special:Listusers ? [02:47:42] Just found it, thanks! [02:56:11] Danny_B: it looks like there is no way to pass info into the protection form [02:57:12] carl-m: yep. and thanks for answering here. i accidentaly posted it on wrong chan [02:57:40] however the question is if it's possible to enable it somehow [02:58:30] It looks like ProtectionForm.php only looks at them in the process of committing the protection [02:58:35] when will domas be back to uncripple javascript development for us? [02:59:51] Danny_B: it could be fixed in the code [03:01:46] Here's an interesting API question - I'm trying to get user info using this function http://rafb.net/p/q3EIQI45.html . I'm logged in, and my user is a bureucrat.. however the API returns the IP address of the server making the request, not the info about my cookied user.. [03:03:40] you've double-checked the cookies are set? [03:04:24] carl-m: yeah, they definitely are. When I visit http://wikibondev.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=rights|hasmsg from my browser it works perfectly [03:04:37] and my IP address is not the same one that is returned when the server makes the API call [03:05:20] the php is running on your browser? [03:05:54] no, but the result is different when I visit that URL from my browser and when I do the http request with file_get_contents [03:06:07] right. your browser has cookies, it seems. [03:06:18] but does the php log in and get a cookie? [03:06:45] hmm, no I suppose it doesnt, but what if there are multiple users all accessing these pages at once? [03:07:04] then they would have to send authentication info to the php, so that it can log in on their behalf [03:07:26] or, you will have to redesign the system to run on their browser [03:07:27] but would it be able to track all the different logins [03:07:45] yeah i was thinking about making Javascript / JSON versions of everything.... [03:07:53] im just worried about the server getting confused [03:08:46] there is a separate process for each invocation of php [03:08:55] oh ok [03:09:11] then it should be simple enough to make the PHP login at the beginning of the page load, and then log out at the end [03:09:26] no need to log out [03:09:35] but you do need to log in at the beginning [03:10:44] and for that i need their passwords :-/ :-/ [03:10:50] unfortunately [03:11:00] that's the advantage of javascript [03:11:00] JSON it is [03:11:38] thank goodness for jQuery [03:15:54] I'm wondering if I can move a mediawiki installation [03:17:18] if I were to be moving the files from a testing subdomain to folder in a live site, what would I need to change? [03:17:40] nothing [03:17:53] unless you want to use a different database or something [03:18:06] it would be using the same database [03:18:16] so there aren't any paths or things like that? [03:18:24] nope [03:18:51] ok, I'll let you know how it goes [03:19:01] just moving the files now [03:20:54] hmm something's not right [03:20:58] just getting a blank page [03:23:56] mship: you may need to fix $wgScriptPath in LocalSettings.php [03:27:09] 03(NEW) Enable form filling from query string on protect form - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12750 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (danny_b) [03:29:32] it's set $wgScriptPath = "/w"; for testing, and the url that I'm loading indeed is domain.tld/ [03:29:46] /w that is [03:30:23] changing it doesn't really do anything [03:31:29] I see another clean install, complete with a litany of hacks to be applied, in my future [03:32:00] mship: check the FAQ? [03:33:26] mship: it should be clean. you don't get anything if you directly load index.php? [03:33:52] 03(NEW) First tab character in a preformatted paragraph converted to wrong number of spaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12751 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (x00000000) [03:35:21] carl-m: nothing at all, but the http header is 200 OK [03:36:03] and I was a little overwhelmed at the size of the faq ... I'm not sure if there's something in there that's useful to me or not [03:36:10] can you point me to a page? [03:39:04] mship: you should get _something_ from index.php. maube you should check the webserver error log to see if it has an explanation [03:45:13] Hi, does anyone here know who I can ask about getting commit access to the MW codebase (or at least a couple of files in it)? [03:48:19] Question: My wiki might end up with 100gig of data (in the upload dir) and if it does I may need to move it around onto it's own download server or move it's spot on the server. Is there an extension or something which allows me to change the uploads directory? [03:51:05] TimStarling - Hi there, I saw you have done some development on the database class, and was wondering if you know how I could get commit access to maintain another database subclass (SQLite) in the codebase...? would that be something the dev team would be in to do you think? [03:51:44] *AaronSchulz giggles [03:52:54] Aranad: Just message wikitech-l saying you want commit access for that, you don't have to wait for that to hack sqlite access in through, you could do it now [03:53:04] Aranad: and post a patch if there's a bug for it, or create a new one [03:53:34] what avar says [03:53:35] hi avar [03:53:47] haven't seen you around in a while [03:53:52] Aw right, thanks :) - I'm not very familiar with the MW svn procedures.... [03:54:09] TimStarling: I'm always around, I just lurk:) [03:55:08] TimStarling: I've been following things somewhat recently, good work on the parser [03:55:27] drivermadness: it's all configurable where the upload directory is [03:55:33] see DefaultSettings [03:55:45] thank you [03:56:25] you know, I've been meaning to ask you since September last year, have you seen the t-shirts that were distributed at wikimania? [03:56:31] someone must have told you [03:57:05] wikimania last year? no, I just saw some of the ones I bought at the boston WM [03:57:55] Ward Cunningham and Mark Dilley had tens of t-shirts that they were giving to everyone for free, they were very keen [03:58:12] they have "diff to penultimate revision" written across them in green and yellow [03:58:39] Ah, yes I remember someone telling me about that, I just forgot about it:) [03:58:45] that phrase of course has been removed from mediawiki for a while now [03:58:51] but it lives on in t-shirt form [04:00:22] The credit for that isn't mine though. I think I joined #wikipedia one day asking them for a succinct way to say "the second latest" [04:00:53] mmm [04:01:32] well, "penultimate" is a reasonable response to that question [04:01:58] What does it say now? [04:02:02] http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts/three/hecfired.html "welcome to the pit of penultimate darkness" [04:02:04] I think putting it together into the phrase deserves the bulk of the credit [04:02:07] "last change" [04:03:24] it's an odd place to use that word, that's why it's amusing [04:08:24] TimStarling: you ever hear of Daniel Dennet and John Searle? [04:09:47] no [04:10:38] TimStarling: maybe I should give up and use a "null interpretation" on the mind-body problem ;) [04:11:03] 03(NEW) space before/after »/« =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C2=BBguillemets=C2=AB=20conve?= =?UTF-8?Q?rted=20to=20=26nbsp?=; - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12752 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (x00000000) [04:13:33] TimStarling: there's a fairly significant bug in the spamblacklist extension [04:14:10] MZMcBride: You say it's configurable, would this mean I cna copy all fixes on the current mw and move it to another server :) I guess I would do this in localsettings.php is this correct [04:14:36] yes, there are probably docs somewhere explaining this better than i can :) [04:17:03] 03(mod) space before/after »/« =?UTF-8?Q?=20=C2=BBguillemets=C2=AB=20conve?= =?UTF-8?Q?rted=20to=20=26nbsp?=; - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12752 (10N/A) [04:20:53] drivermadness: i think if you move the files, you'll have to run a maintenance script on the DB [04:30:43] IS there any modules that will create a drop down navigation menu? [04:30:48] or extensions rather [04:32:57] you could make one in HTML and insert it [04:33:51] I was afraid of that... [04:34:07] To make it more fun, it has to be dynamically called. [04:34:33] there are secure ways to include arbitrary HTML [04:34:39] !e HTMLets | aBSDaemon [04:34:39] --mwbot-- aBSDaemon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets [04:34:59] I've just been working with that today to do iframes [04:35:23] have you looked at the extension matrix for a drop down extension? [04:35:31] yeah [04:35:38] ok [04:36:33] Sometimes, though, I've found there are extensions others know about that aren't in the matrix [04:36:53] well, in a perfect world, all the extensions would be listed there... [04:37:10] but for what you want to do, HTMLets sounds like the best option [04:38:17] As I go I'm building my own repository of every module I've need thus far, copy 'n pasted code, then created a Readme with the author's instructrions, and made .zips. [04:38:34] So far I've put 83 up on a website. [04:39:01] .zip or .tgz. [04:39:23] modules --> extenions? [04:39:29] extensions, even [04:39:40] yeah, extensions [04:40:03] sorry, I work around Drupal mostly. So habits to call additions modules [04:40:23] Especially at 11PM when I've been working for 16 hours...lol [04:40:50] :) [04:44:52] carl-m: if I do a CURL call with the user/pass should that solve my problem? [04:48:22] AphelionZ: you need to store the cookies [04:48:28] and pass them back with later requests [04:50:22] *AphelionZ hates everything [04:52:17] 03(mod) Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 +comment (10voyagerfan5761) [05:15:23] 03(mod) User should be able to see the list of his deleted contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12667 (10FastLizard4) [05:16:04] 03(mod) User should be able to see the list of his deleted contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12667 (10lunasantin) [05:24:36] 03(mod) User should be able to see the list of his deleted contributions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12667 (10FastLizard4) [06:03:20] 03(WONTFIX) Allow editor-control of order of cites expanded at "< references/>" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12498 (10bill.mitchell) [06:07:36] 03(mod) Allow editor-control of order of cites expanded at "< references/>" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12498 +comment (10bill.mitchell) [06:16:17] is there no is_msie in our browser detection? [06:36:21] I try to (fresh) install mediawiki. But I am getting 500 internal server error. Can somebody help me on that? [06:36:32] MediaWiki 1.11.0 [06:56:14] 03(mod) Expiring protection should not cancel previous protections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10079 (10lunasantin) [06:56:34] 03(mod) Indicate that the page being viewed is protected - subtitle message? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10347 (10lunasantin) [07:18:53] <_wooz> lo [07:21:49] my wiki is giving me an error when it tries to make a thumbnail saying /path/to/convert -thumbnail is not an option or something along those lines [07:21:53] how do I fix this [07:22:21] /usr/bin/convert unrecognized option (-thumnail) [07:23:39] thumbnail* [07:33:43] also how do i make [07:33:51] "pages" which are linked together with a front/back button [07:34:03] finger slipped on the enter key :p [07:58:05] grekkos: what does `convert -version` say? [07:58:25] let me ssh and find out [07:58:57] Version: ImageMagick 5.5.6 04/01/03 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org [07:58:57] Copyright: Copyright (C) 2003 ImageMagick Studio LLC [07:59:57] perhaps you could try upgrading, that version is very old (and probably has quite a few security issues) [08:00:03] or you could use gd for thumbnailing instead [08:00:09] gd? [08:00:17] i don't have root access to my server, btw [08:02:49] hmm.. I'm going to clean up Userrights a little [08:02:55] gd is build into php, you can enable it by setting $wgUseImageMagick=false [08:04:50] okay [08:05:16] Werdna: interfacey? [08:05:39] yeah [08:05:43] just playing with it a little [08:06:18] thanks flyingparchment that worked [08:06:37] *Splarka chants "checkboxes" repeatedly to werdy [08:06:47] that's what I'm going to do [08:07:22] sweet [08:08:48] btw, for the user groups with full access to userrights, you might consider adding a way to remove unused groups [08:09:35] say a group used to exist on a random wiki, say like 'rollbacker' that was removed from LocalSettings but not from the database [08:10:06] perhaps make a section of the interface that can remove those extranuouses [08:10:07] i would like a feature to allow anyone to edit user rights by changing the form html [08:10:23] flyingparchment: I did that, but people complained :( [08:10:32] even IPs? hmm [08:10:37] ignore them, live your own life! [08:10:43] sweet [08:10:57] how about disabling it if the userID is 0 as well? [08:12:11] *Werdna rolleyes. It's already done [08:12:52] well, then enable it for a while [08:12:59] and then fix the "bug" and claim credit [08:13:27] heh [08:13:31] bug never existed... [08:16:52] mmmm [08:17:03] 2006-10-25T20:32:05Z [08:17:03] - [08:17:03] [08:17:03] MediaWiki default [08:17:03] [08:17:13] on test.wp, MediaWiki_default is userID 0 [08:18:03] or at least, is listed as an IP [08:18:32] yes. that's normal for maintenance scripts [08:18:39] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Listusers/editor?username=MediaWiki http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/rights?page=User:MediaWiki_default [08:18:59] should that be possible then? [08:19:26] is there an easy way to make shortcuts to articles in your default ns, or are they automatic in some way? Like, /WP:Help goes to /Wikipedia:Help [08:20:00] Kyrin: edit WP:Help, write this in it: #redirect[[Wikipedia:Help]] [08:20:19] on wikipedia, WP is a namespace alias ($wgNamespaceAliases), so you can also write WP:Foo and it means Wikipedia:Foo automatically [08:20:29] (so there's no redirect in that particular case) [08:20:39] thx, that's exactly what I was looking for [08:31:12] I successfully installed wiki. Now, how can I diaable editing by 'guests'? At present anybody can edit the contents [08:31:31] !http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [08:31:31] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/help:user_rights". You might try: !access !rights !rollback !userrights [08:31:38] ack http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights even [08:31:41] *Splarka stabs the ! key [08:32:14] Thanks Splarka. Let me try. [08:35:22] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10tony1) [08:39:27] what will be the equivalent for my local installation of wiki - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar ? [08:39:37] MediaWiki:Sidebar is giving me 404 [08:41:26] then your url is probably wrong [08:41:31] the page called MediaWiki:Sidebar on your wiki [08:42:05] http://ninethsense.best4service.net/ is the link [08:42:39] .. so ... http://ninethsense.best4service.net/MediaWiki:Sideba ? [08:42:46] http://ninethsense.best4service.net/MediaWiki:Sidebar [08:42:58] http://ninethsense.best4service.net/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [08:42:59] Am I wrong? [08:43:02] go to your wiki, type MediaWiki:Sidebar into the search box, press 'go', when the search page comes up, click the 'create this article' link [08:43:11] ah ok [08:43:58] searching worked ;) [08:46:49] great ... I edited and now i have errors :P - PHP Notice: Undefined variable: heading in E:\Domains\ninethsense.best4service.net\wwwroot\includes\Skin.php on line 1643 [08:46:53] let me digg [08:51:06] Nineth: Did you configure your wiki to print php notices? That notice shouldn't be there. [08:51:35] I didnt do anything. I am new to mediawiki [08:53:13] what to do? - In localsettings.php I added two lines - $wgLogo = "common/images/ninethsense.jpg"; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [08:53:15] nothing extra [08:53:58] Isnogud: the problem is worse, mediawiki shouldn't print notices even if the config is enabled [08:54:09] I installed mediawiki in IIS [08:54:15] Nineth: You edited the article and saved it. after that you got the notice message that you have mentioned? [08:54:22] well. ok. thats it. [08:54:44] Nineth: what version are you using? [08:54:53] 1.11.0 [08:54:59] php 5, mysql 4 [08:56:17] Nineth: what exactly did you write in MediaWiki:Sidebar? [08:56:36] I removed * navigation and added ** test at the bottom [08:57:18] removing * navigation is not allwed? [08:57:48] you need a heading (*) before an item (**). i see why the notice is generated. but it shouldn't prevent the page to load [08:58:13] Nineth: edit includes\Skin.php. after line 1612 (which should be: $bar = array();) add this: $heading = ""; [08:58:14] Nineth: It should not print this Notice. [08:58:15] hmmm.. editing database directly will solve? [08:58:24] Ok [08:59:09] that does fix this one particular notice flyingparchment but it doesn't solve the problem, does it? error_reporting is set to 0 as default in MW. [08:59:35] so this notice should not be there. [09:00:08] My wiki site is back to life :) Thanks to all [09:00:14] Isnogud: where do you see error_reporting set to 0? [09:00:31] Nineth: please file a bug on bugzilla.wikimedia.org, since this shouldn't happen [09:00:47] although it seems to be fixed in HEAD, it should probably be fixed in the next 1.11 as well [09:00:59] Ok. I will do. [09:06:02] actually i take that back, it's not fixed in head, but it doesn't prevent the page loading, it just logs notices [09:07:07] flyingparchment: ok. i don't fine the passage. i assume it's in wfSuppressWarnings. I have never seen notices except if i explicitly turned error_reporting to report them. [09:07:31] Isnogud: if you don't set error_reporting, why would you expect to see them? [09:07:42] (anything mediawiki did would override error_reporting in php.ini anywa) [09:07:55] depends on the webserver config? [09:08:16] or better on the php setting for your webserver. right? [09:08:20] the php config, yes [09:09:31] ... well ... yeah. i lost my point :) [09:11:30] Well... I am not able to reproduce the issue - I removed $heading = ""; and still the site is workign [09:11:48] try editing the page again, it's probably cached [09:11:56] ok [09:12:33] define: 'working' [09:13:33] yes, right. In firefox I got errors [09:18:43] 03(NEW) PHP notice when Sidebar is edited. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12753 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (praveen) [10:00:27] hi all, got a question, I have a page which seems corrupt/broken in some way, when I try to view it, I get a blank white page... How do I delete this page from mediawiki? [10:00:59] tried appending the action=delete parameter to the URL? [10:01:06] nope [10:01:19] /index.php?title=PAGENAME&action=delete [10:01:48] Perfect, that worked :) thanks! :) [10:01:56] np [10:03:41] how far does recentchanges table go? [10:03:59] 1 month? [10:04:08] one week is the default [10:04:08] depends on setting [10:04:09] 5000 i think [10:04:13] per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRCMaxAge [10:04:33] but I think it's closer to one month on WM servers [10:05:55] is a bit random [10:06:13] if ( 0 == mt_rand( 0, 99 ) ) { [10:07:20] you can get entries well beyond the maximum, if the wiki is very dead [10:09:40] 03(mod) Patroller group inaccessible to stewards - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 (10dungodung) [10:10:04] heh [10:13:00] dung: wow, short list of special cases, and 'founder' could probably be skipped heh [10:13:15] well, heh [10:13:21] that's not my problem :) [10:13:26] rollbacker/patroller would make sense global, but most of the others, a steward can set themself sysop or -crat on the wiki temporarily [10:13:55] but that's not the point, spla [10:14:47] bah [10:15:01] then meta should simply have every right, even custom ones ^_^ [10:15:27] indeed [10:15:34] I am sure if every custom group that existed was added to every wiki, the enwpers would whine on both sides of the fence about it [10:15:41] but it would have to be maintained or stg [10:15:57] "Since it is here, please add access to set it for sysops!" "Arg, remove it from Special:Listusers, is useless!" [10:15:57] well, we don't need founder on meta:userrights [10:16:14] *Splarka grins [10:17:56] *dungodung pats Splarka [10:19:22] *Splarka burps [10:22:41] btw dung, how long does it take to search all pages on projects via the toolserver for a regex? [10:22:54] (if it is even possible) [10:23:34] hmm [10:23:43] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_to_the_new_preprocessor#Expected_differences [10:23:45] dunno? [10:23:51] Splarka: loong time [10:23:57] some of these might be nice to find before the switchover tomorrow [10:24:00] ahh, darn [10:24:57] most are minor, but some breaking ones might included: commented out , #if-fing a variable without a null pipe, etc [10:35:33] why does SELECT page_title, page_latest FROM page where page_title='Ubuntu'; give me 5 values? [10:35:52] there's only one article and only the first one of those 5 is the latest revision [10:39:01] whereas SELECT page_title, page_latest FROM page where page_title='Hablov_zakon'; gives one value [10:42:59] dungodung: always specify the namespace! [10:43:14] titles are only unique together with the namespace field [10:43:16] ah [10:43:21] right [10:43:36] and also, without the namespace, the query doesn't use an index. on a big wiki, that would be *very* slow [10:43:56] ok, works now :) [10:44:42] 0.13s without "and page_namespace=0", 0.01s with [10:44:46] Guys, i need help, how integrate treeview in side bar? [10:45:30] Rolph: did you try the hacks suggested on the documentation page? (you mean CategoryTree, right?) [10:45:56] they might mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tree_view [10:46:04] Rolph: afaik, it's not easily possible. the way the sidebar is built and integrated by the skin is not very flexible [10:46:06] i read this text [10:46:27] i use mono [10:46:28] Splarka: ah, didn't think of that one [10:46:50] oh, you wrote categorytree [10:46:57] *Splarka understands why now ^_^ [10:47:15] yeah, dues is good puppy :) [10:47:19] Splarka, yes, i use treeview4 [10:48:06] 03(NEW) Querying for N-Ary property with a type Text fails - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12754 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (nitsche) [10:48:34] hello [10:48:39] looks fairly straightforward, some LocalSettings settings and some css [10:49:23] i'm looking for help... i would like to install a moderated wiki [10:49:52] i insert all what is need... but treeview not showed in sidebar [10:53:33] does it show normally otherwise? [10:53:45] hahahahaa [10:53:46] "If you just want an open interchange format for fully preprocessed, [10:53:46] template-free wikitext, then MediaWiki already has one. It's called XHTML. [10:53:46] " [10:53:51] pwned! [11:14:40] 14(DUP) Orphaned pages and other special pages do not show pages in custom namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12689 +comment (10lejonel) [11:14:40] 03(mod) Consolidate special pages with namespace selector - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4204 +comment (10lejonel) [11:41:37] hello all [11:41:53] Can soemone give me some advice on something please [11:42:05] I've just set up a private wiki for internal company use [11:42:38] I'd like to import al the HELP: namespace pages from another wiki (MMeta or MEdia) to dodge lots of questions on how things work from users [11:42:51] is there a datadump of this namespace anywhere I can grab? [11:43:19] The export mechanism seemst o requore individual page names, which will take a long time to manually export [11:46:02] Export also takes categories [11:50:12] BeardyBloke: http://p.defau.lt/?T6UWT3rufWHfu5iM_qsk_A [11:50:23] here is a list of all the Help: namespace pages on mediawiki.org [11:50:42] you should be able to paste that type of list into http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Export (excluding translations you don't need) [11:51:01] generated from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Help: [11:55:30] Thank you. I'll give it a whirl [11:57:15] 03grondin * r30069 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: Update from Betawiki [11:58:54] how can i do this that i get the back-link at the top: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tiles%40home/Dev/Client [11:59:51] !man Subpages [11:59:51] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Subpages [12:00:19] marvxxx: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subpages [12:02:24] thank you [12:03:27] h.llo [12:08:57] do i always have to enable subpages for a single thing or cant i just enable it for everything? [12:10:08] marvxxx: you have to enable per namespace [12:10:41] now it starts: whats a namespace? [12:10:43] ;-) [12:11:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces [12:11:32] so i want subpages for the main namespace [12:11:34] for the articles [12:12:24] $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true; [12:13:55] i just found it...thank you [12:14:22] thank you alot [12:38:16] Can anyone tell me which plugin provides the {{#if ...}} etc templates? [12:38:50] parserfunctions I would guess [12:38:51] Woosta, parser functions [12:38:56] !parserfunctions [12:38:56] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [12:39:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parser_function_extensions [12:39:02] ah ;) [12:39:14] ta [12:42:40] this reminds me I have to fix somehow parserfunctions [12:42:48] in a way that tim doesn't kill me [12:44:27] :D [12:50:26] 03(NEW) 123456qijie - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12755 trivial; low; Kate's Tools: General/Unknown; () [12:53:46] ;-D [12:53:52] 14(WFM) 123456qijie - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12755 +comment (10domas.mituzas) [12:55:30] haha [13:05:08] 03(mod) 123456qijie - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12755 trivial->15enhancement; +comment (10a9942152) [13:07:37] lol [13:07:45] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10l8qjvx002) [13:08:23] "An error, incorrect information" "It really works for me!" "Is not a mistake" [13:10:54] =))) [13:37:02] What's the Special: page that you see when you go to edit a new page? [13:37:33] Hmm .. maybe it was a Wiki: page [13:41:17] 03(NEW) Arbcom-en wiki config please -- namespace additions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12756 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (FT2.wiki) [13:41:29] MediaWiki:Newarticletext [13:47:50] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10tony1) [13:48:10] 03(mod) Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:57:51] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10l8qjvx002) [14:02:27] 03(mod) Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 (10l8qjvx002) [14:06:35] 03(mod) Provide "edit warning" for pages when someone else has just started editing - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1510 (10roan.kattouw) [14:12:36] <_newbie_> hello guys [14:15:15] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10tony1) [14:55:31] is it possible to look at an exsting public mediawiki installation and tell if they have created custom namespaces? I am looking for examples of how some publically viewable sites use custom namespaces [14:57:00] they would probably be in a drop-down box in Recentchanges? [14:57:31] and as checkboxes on a search page [15:00:33] AlexSm: Thanks that will get me started. Do you have any sites you could recommend I might review? [15:01:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki ? [15:02:30] AlexSm: great! thanks again. [15:02:44] if you search site with custom namespace, Wikipedia use it. [15:03:51] hello. is it possible to avoit sitesub to be rendered when I print the page ? it is not rendered on the browser, but it goes into the postscript [15:05:19] ThomasV: something like this in your personal monobook.css : [15:05:22] @media print{ #siteSub {display:none} } [15:06:23] thanks AlexSm [15:10:02] hmm that does not work... [15:13:07] ThomasV: 1) just in case: it's not supposed to work on "Printable Version" 2) you might have other errors in your css file that afect this rule [15:14:10] AlexSm: I print from "printable version" [15:14:42] ThomasV: this rule cannot change "printable version" [15:14:52] use your browser print preview instead [15:15:25] without &printable=yes ? [15:15:35] yes [15:16:00] ok it works :-) [15:16:06] strange... [15:16:20] 03raymond * r30070 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 11897) Add alias [[Special:CreateAccount]] & [[Special:Userlogin/signup]] for Special:Userlogin?type=signup [15:17:45] 03(FIXED) Special:Userlogin?type= signup should have an internal link to it - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11897 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [15:21:45] 03(NEW) improperly closed references tag should result in an obvious error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12757 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (random832) [15:46:50] 03(NEW) Localisation of navbar show/hide links via wfMsgCentre - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12758 15enhancement; normal; Wiktionary tools: General; (hippytrail) [15:55:12] hi [15:55:19] i want to add custom links to the mediawiki [15:55:24] like opensim://mylink [15:55:30] what do i need to change to enable this? [15:55:31] 03(FIXED) Edit only using a subset of templates in the form - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11178 +comment (10yaron57) [15:57:36] *bump* [15:57:46] phrearch: $wgUrlProtocols[] = "opensim://"; in LocalSettings.php [15:57:58] great. thank you ialex :D [16:05:02] Guys, please help me, how create category? and can i upload pictures by category? [16:09:07] Rolph: yes [16:09:15] Every image has a page [16:09:28] well, you can categorize image pages. not quite the same [16:09:31] but close enough i guess [16:09:37] You just have to put [[Category:Categoryname]] to the page [16:10:58] VasilievVV, how create category? [16:11:13] !categories | Rolph [16:11:13] --mwbot-- Rolph: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories [16:11:19] Rolph: you create it by using it. [16:12:37] i.e. put [[Category:Categoryname]] in address string? [16:13:19] put that on the page you want to categorize [16:13:32] then save the page. a red "Categoryname" will show up at the bottom. [16:13:42] click the red link and edit the categorie's description [16:14:01] Rolph: your ip tells me you are from russia. perhaps you can find something here: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D08%D0A%D08%D0F%D05%D04%D08%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0F%D1%80%D00%D02%D0A%D00 [16:14:08] http://info/index.php/Category:NAME [16:14:12] bah, irc mangles the link :(# [16:14:33] try this: http://tinyurl.com/335lro [16:15:49] 03(mod) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858 (10mapellegrini) [16:21:39] i want to create a custom namespace to see what it looks like for a learning exercise, then remove it I have found info on creating them is there a way to remove one? [16:22:28] Poundo: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces for info on how to use custom namespaces :) [16:23:54] Jack_Phoenix: Thanks I have read that page and they don't offer a method to remove the namespace cleanly? [16:23:56] Duesentrieb, i.e. i put category: before name of article? Yes? [16:24:11] before the name of the category. [16:24:21] it's the namespace category-pages live in [16:24:24] !namespace | Rolph [16:24:24] --mwbot-- Rolph: For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [16:24:30] Poundo: no easy way to remove a namespace "cleanly", I'd guess [16:24:54] 14(DUP) Expiring protection should not cancel previous protections - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10079 +comment (10dan_the_man) [16:24:58] 03(mod) It should be possible to stack permissions for pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12656 +comment (10dan_the_man) [16:25:07] Poundo: there is no clean way without knowing all names of all namespaces. And the same again for all interwiki prefixes. [16:25:19] the latter requires database access... [16:25:29] Jack_Phoenix: Yea thats kinda what I have come to I just wanted to avoid re-installing my wiki as i plow around you know! [16:26:58] Duesentrieb: For arguments sake lets say I know all the names since I created them right. What would be the approach in that case [16:28:13] you'd look if the name started with any of the namespace names (in all variants of capitalization, using "_" or " ", etc) followed by ":" (and possibly also preceeded by ":") [16:29:02] Duesentrieb: are you saying I would create a query against the DB [16:29:08] actually, it's easiest to strip any leading :, split at the first :, trim, normalize, and then check against your list. if it matches, use only the remainder. if it doesn't, use the original string [16:29:22] no, for that you need no query. [16:29:37] Duesentrieb: Hmmm where are you doing this? [16:29:48] you have to "somehow" know all names/aliases fro all namespaces, and all interwiki prefixes. to find that out you would need a query (or several) [16:30:02] Poundo: it's don in the Title class [16:30:23] with help from the Namespace class, and the Language class [16:31:08] Duesentrieb:I see. Ok I get it now. More Later Thanks! [16:32:35] hi [16:33:29] hello Sundance [16:51:11] hi Duesentrieb [16:53:01] 03(mod) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858 +comment (10dwellmeister) [16:55:47] 03(NEW) Relations pointing to non-semantic pages get broken - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12759 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [16:59:13] hello [16:59:52] 03catrope * r30071 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiParamInfo.php: API: Adding parameter description to action=paraminfo output [17:03:44] i'm running mediawiki 1.7.1 on debian 4r2, with php 5.2 on apache 2.2.3 [17:03:44] I'm having problems getting nice urls working as outlined here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Apache_rewrite--root_access [17:03:44] I've tested mod_rewrite with the default site and that's working fine, so I think I'm missing something more crucial to mediawiki. Does anyone have a few minutes to help me? [17:05:25] if in categories write "category is empty", what doing? [17:06:06] does mediawiki provide a means to create new user groups. I have found lots about managing rights of the default user groups but nothing about creating new groups [17:09:11] Poundo, you need to edit LocalSettings.php [17:09:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [17:09:56] (if your using debian, you'll find the gorups in /includes/DefaultSettings.php) [17:11:09] CH-: so instead of "$wgGroupPermissions['group']['right'] = true" I can say "$wgGroupPermissions['PoundsGRP']['right'] = true" eh! [17:12:39] Poundo: you'll need to add the correct type of "right" [17:13:01] e.g.: $wgGroupPermissions['PoundsGRP']['edit'] = true [17:16:03] AzaTht: PING [17:17:52] CH-: got it great help. thanks :) [17:17:57] np [17:18:12] Hello :) I wanted to ask if the source for the infobox is open source and if I could build it into my own wiki [17:18:18] Its about a mmorpg [17:18:31] Rolph: Well it seems there are no articles in that categor [17:19:03] Rolph: To add an article to a category, put "[[Category:Example]]" (without the quotes) somewhere in the article text, and it'll be added to the "Example" category [17:20:04] If yes, where to get the code for the infobox? [17:23:53] what infobox? [17:27:34] 03rotem * r30072 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [17:28:20] <^demon> Question: If you have a 2.5GB mySQL database and you need to get it off one server and onto another, what's the easiest way to do that? [17:28:27] <^demon> Short of mysqldump, download, upload to new place. [17:28:57] 03catrope * r30073 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiParamInfo.php: API: Adding module prefix information to action=paraminfo [17:34:32] ZorroIII, the infobox wikipedia.de uses :O you just set some parameters, and it spits out a full and nicely styled table with the parameters you had [17:35:46] gahg [17:35:59] roan, get back! [17:36:04] Niki-: its GFDL, add proper credit and you can use it [17:36:16] where to find the code? [17:37:38] that's left as an exercise for the reader. [17:45:38] ZorroIII, you dont study math by chance? [17:45:46] that could be out of my linear algebra I book... [17:47:03] it's been a while since I was studying [17:55:59] 03(FIXED) Special:ExpandTemplates not correctly expanding templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12737 +comment (10nvervelle) [18:03:15] can someone tell me where to find the sourcecode? I was unable finding it so far [18:04:36] of MediaWiki ? [18:09:21] How do I make a set of pages that are linked together with a "forward/back" button? [18:10:38] !svn | Niki- [18:10:38] --mwbot-- Niki-: Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information. [18:11:39] I know what svn is... something like "its in svn" wouldve been enough xD [18:11:54] thx ill look l8er [18:12:00] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/ [18:14:35] thanks [18:14:47] some hint where its hidden? :) [18:16:04] How do I make a set of pages that are linked together with a "forward/back" button? [18:16:36] 03(mod) Extension stylesheets should be loaded before any others - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10184 +comment (10Platonides) [18:16:37] I don't know what this is called but I've seen it before, and I'm not sure if it's a plugin of it's built in to mediawiki [18:18:21] 03(NEW) Increase rate limit for rollbacker group to 10 per minute - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12760 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (matthew.britton) [18:19:12] I'm having problems getting nice urls working as outlined here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_Apache_rewrite--root_access [18:19:24] grekkos: I know it's often done with templates; I don't know of any automatic way to do it. For example, see < http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine/Chapter_VI >. [18:19:26] I've tested mod_rewrite with the default site and that's working fine, so I think I'm missing something more crucial to mediawiki. Does anyone have a few minutes to help me? [18:19:43] i'm running mediawiki 1.7.1 on debian 4r2, with php 5.2 on apache 2.2.3 [18:19:47] im having trouble getting uploads working, ive got $wgEnableUploads = true; but the upload page gives a "File uploads are disabled on this wiki." [18:19:56] can this be caused by some kind of cache? [18:22:37] any ideas? [18:23:38] Tuna^: I assume you edited LocalSettings.php in the root directory? [18:23:42] Pathoschild: it created a link to Template:Header2 when I tried using similar markup [18:24:14] grekkos: Templates are special wiki pages that you need to write yourself, like any other page. [18:24:16] !templates | grekkos [18:24:16] --mwbot-- grekkos: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [18:24:17] Tuna^: it's possible that somewhere else there's a $wgEnableUploads=false; after where you put that... [18:25:23] grekkos: The header2 template is *very* complicated; if you only want back/forward links, you'll probably want a simpler template. :) [18:26:47] grekkos: i've done a search for "uploads" and its the only variable there [18:27:17] ive changed the site name in the config too, but the main page still shows the old title [18:27:21] is that normal? [18:28:10] Tuna^: Are you editing LocalSettings.php in the root directory, and not DefaultSettings.php ? [18:28:22] Tuna^: are you sure it's the right settings file? that's the only thing I can think of-- like maybe it's a different copy [18:30:00] im editing localsettings in config folder [18:30:13] Ahh. [18:30:27] Go up one directory, and edit LocalSettings.php there. [18:30:57] appears to be working, thanks! [18:31:01] Welcome. [18:31:43] The one in the config folder is generated after installation, and you're told to move it into the root directory; you probably copied it, thus the confusion. [18:33:49] Pathoschild: does the template automatically create a box with a border for me? [18:35:52] You need to code the box and border in the template. If you're copying "template:header2" from Wikisource, you'll also need ParserFunctions, some CSS from < http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css >, and possibly tidy. [18:35:52] If you just want a border with a box, don't use header2. :) [18:36:18] If you give me a link, I can write a simple template for you. [18:37:14] ok i'm not sure how to make the border so... i'll give you a link [18:38:22] http://otaku-elite.com/pekk/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Page you might have to register for it [18:38:47] Well, one can never have too many registered accounts. [18:38:51] heh [18:39:18] I need to set up the mod_rewrite feature soon [18:40:13] http://otaku-elite.com/pekk/wiki/index.php?title=GtkRadiant:_Creating_a_Simple_Room < sample page that was using it [18:40:27] I guess all the parameters have to be specified or it doesn't work [18:40:53] 03catrope * r30074 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiMain.php ApiParamInfo.php ApiQuery.php): [18:40:53] API: [18:40:53] * Fixing buggy class instantiation in ApiParamInfo [18:40:53] * Adding getModules() method to ApiMain and ApiQuery [18:41:00] Not if you install ParserFunctions, which adds some basic (and not-so-basic) programming capabilities. [18:41:11] oh [18:41:20] Hmm. "Unable to determine IP address from host name for otaku-elite.com." [18:41:38] strange.. [18:41:44] I'll paste it somewhere else so you can copy it. [18:41:49] okay [18:42:27] With or without ParserFunctions? [18:42:33] !parserfunctions | grekkos [18:42:33] --mwbot-- grekkos: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [18:42:39] I'm reading about parser functions now [18:42:44] is it easy to install? [18:42:53] grekkos: Yes [18:43:08] Yep; you just download some files, stick them into your extensions directory, and add a line of code to LocalSettings.php. [18:43:15] oh okay [18:43:18] yeah do it with that then [18:43:23] I'll ssh my host and start the downloading [18:44:03] AzaTht: Back [18:44:12] allo [18:44:19] you poked me [18:45:59] grekkos: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pathoschild/Sandbox2 [18:46:21] oh i didn't know you could use in line styles liket hat [18:46:35] Yep, so you can customize it quite a bit. [18:46:55] Oh right err it appears the information you asked for (do I have new messages on my talk page?) can already be gotten through meta=userinfo&uiprop=hasmsg [18:47:05] You can also link the arrows with [[{{{back|}}}|←{{{back|}}}]], if you want. [18:48:33] ok [18:48:49] thanks a lot Pathoschild [18:50:32] Welcome. [18:52:02] ok [18:52:19] 03(NEW) Set local timezone for Kazakh projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12761 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (alefzet) [19:10:00] so ich gehe mal solangsam ins nest [19:20:57] I've uploaded a PDF to media wiki ... how do I link to it without the link showing up as "Image:Foo.pdf" ? [19:21:15] I tried [[Image:Foo.pdf|some label]] but it doesn't change anything [19:23:42] 03(mod) Set local timezone for Kazakh projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12761 +comment (10kalan.001) [19:24:05] jorvis: [[:Image:Foo.pdf|some label]] [19:25:37] jorvis: [[Media:Foo.pdf|some label]] will link directly to the PDF, rather than to the description page [19:26:06] nice [19:26:08] thanks [19:30:06] morning kids [19:30:15] Morning brion [19:31:02] 'morging father brion :) [19:35:20] 03(mod) Arbcom-en wiki config please -- namespace additions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12756 (10Eugene.Zelenko) [19:39:04] 03siebrand * r30075 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (16 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-01-23 20:34 CET) [19:42:47] 03raymond * r30076 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Fix PHP strict standard. Thanks to Siebrand. [19:43:52] 03siebrand * r30077 10/trunk/extensions/ (39 files in 34 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-01-23 20:34 CET) [19:46:30] raymond_: why don't you use SpecialRedirectToSpecial class for SpecialCreateAccount ? [19:48:23] ialex: hmmm I have to look into it... [19:50:38] 'CreateAccount' => array( 'SpecialRedirectToSpecial', 'CreateAccount', 'Userlogin', 'signup', array( 'uselang' ) ), [19:51:12] i think i'd prefer a refactoring of the account creation to a separate page, but that doesn't have to be done immediately [19:51:36] 03catrope * r30078 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): API: Adding txt and dbg formats, imported from query.php [19:54:01] !r 30078 | AzaTht [19:54:01] --mwbot-- AzaTht: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=30078 [19:54:25] RoanKattouw: then query.php is dead!!!! [19:54:53] lol [19:55:05] I'll look over it fully to check the API's got everything [19:56:23] ding-dong the query's dead [19:56:33] Long live the query! [19:56:39] Or API, rather [19:56:55] 03(NEW) Rollback for sv.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12762 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mickewiki) [19:58:19] ialex: thanks. it works. is smarter than a new class :) I tried that first but it did not work because i have forgotten the changes in specialUserlogin. [19:58:44] :) [19:59:58] 03raymond * r30079 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Tweak Special:CreateAccount again. Make it smarter without the needing of a new class. Thanks to ialex. [20:01:02] brion: it's time to remove all visible traces of yurik now ツ [20:02:24] Well Yurik did write the API framework which rocks so much [20:02:25] awww [20:02:45] RoanKattouw: though about the ego part of query.php ツ [20:03:52] it would be like brion decided that /Brion is the designated main page of all wikis [20:04:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/brionrocks/List_of_Pokemon_characters [20:05:11] 03(mod) Rollback for sv.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12762 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [20:14:12] 03catrope * r30080 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryUserInfo.php): API: Added uiprop=editcount to meta=userinfo [20:14:14] * [20:14:20] *Now* query.php is obsolete [20:16:07] 03(NEW) Interwiki map update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12763 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (changeling) [20:16:55] RoanKattouw_away: imageinfo outputs the sha1 now as base 36 :( [20:17:37] I have a fix here and I could commit.. but I first need to install php to see whether I don't break stuff ;) [20:17:52] 03(mod) Interwiki map update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12763 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [20:23:49] 03(NEW) Special:LonelyPages shows transcluded pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12764 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (alternative_to_what) [20:28:58] Bryan: Just commit [20:29:09] I'll test [20:30:48] Bryan: Just commit it [20:31:04] yes, I checked out on http... [20:31:12] not so very smart [20:31:25] Or just send me a patch over IRC [20:32:11] Oh wait I fixed this bug before [20:32:17] But I reintroduced it when rewriting imageinfo [20:33:00] 03btongminh * r30081 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php: ApiQueryImageInfo: Convert sha1 to base16 like before r29981 [20:33:11] wee first commit :) [20:33:34] lol [20:33:48] Yep, works [20:35:42] yeah, and now getting php to work [20:36:17] well, I could not have messed up much in one line ;) [20:36:54] Well, a ) too much breaks the API help [20:38:36] ghe [20:47:24] 03yaron * r30082 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: Improved code formatting [20:50:06] 03yaron * r30083 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: [20:50:06] Added initialization of variable, creation of new wiki-text parser replaced [20:50:06] with call to global parser [20:50:26] 03yaron * r30084 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.9.1 [20:57:39] 03siebrand * r30085 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHu.php: [20:57:39] Localisation updates from Betawiki [20:57:39] * update hu magic words, trim trailing whitespace [21:15:15] hmm, i'm having an issue with mediawiki. it's been working fine, but now when after logging in successfully, it sends you back to the login page asking you to login again [21:15:21] i have it setup to only allow logged in users [21:15:29] i've recently changed the local ip on the box hosting it from the real remote ip to a local ip with the real ip:port forwared to the local ip [21:15:40] could that cause this issue? [21:16:43] nux: Possibly; Check that $wgServer and friends are correctly set in LocalSettings.php [21:17:18] $wgDBserver is set correctly [21:17:35] the login is successful, but it seems to forget it immediatly [21:17:58] Hmm maybe the cookie settings are incorrect due to the IP change [21:18:10] Look for anything using the old IP in LocalSettings.php [21:18:12] that's a possibility [21:18:25] nothing [21:18:43] Do we make any kind of attempt to detect no cookies and display an error? [21:18:58] No [21:19:02] Not that I know of anyway [21:19:12] We probably should. [21:19:27] i see a new cookie created when logging in [21:19:44] Maybe the cookie is ignored due to bad domain settings? [21:19:51] oh! [21:19:53] yea.. [21:20:01] when i connected to 10.10.0.12/mediawiki it worked fine [21:20:08] but when going into hostname/ it doesn't work [21:20:25] great [21:20:32] any ideas as to a solution for this issue? [21:36:06] 03(NEW) Allow "hidden" references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12765 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (random832) [21:44:48] Embaressing little problem here.. We use a Wiki for among other things posting LUA code. Is there any nice way to add a box around code? Any standard template I could create? Would per example a simple table and adding
at the right places work? [21:44:50] 14(DUP) Allow "hidden" references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12765 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:44:52] 03(mod) Greater flexibility with references - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5997 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [21:45:00] Or is there any easier way to add a code-tag? [21:45:01] !syntaxhighlight | ObeCleaning [21:45:01] --mwbot-- ObeCleaning: there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [21:45:10] Not sure if that supports Lua, though, offhand. [21:45:42] Seems it does. [21:45:51] Well... As long as a IF statement doesn't make it break off from it.. :) I am sure it will be more Ahhh. *NICE* :) [21:48:23] That .... *headshakes* ... Whenever there is something that bugs me, it just seems someone has allready solved it allready. [21:49:50] Why does the url "wiki.mysite.com/index.php?title=TlaWiki:Sidebar&action=edit" yield "You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet..." I am trying to edit the sidebar as a member of Sysop [21:50:11] and there is a sidebar with content [21:51:13] Poundo, you want MediaWiki:Sidebar. [21:51:22] Not Project:Sidebar. [21:55:31] Simetrical: Roger! thanks. [22:03:57] anyone have any suggestions for the issue i posted earlier? [22:09:53] Simetrical : Many thanks. :) That worked like a charm. :) [22:10:20] VERY nice extension. [22:10:42] ... Somehow this feels like I will have to start going through the list of them more thoroughly [22:33:40] alright, a server of mine is running mediawiki. i recently changedthe local ip it's listening on to a local 10.10 ip from a real 209.98 ip. now my cookies seem to be invalid, or mediawiki isn't accepting them [22:33:44] when logging it it says login successful, yet it still boots you out saying you 'need to login before viewing the page', any suggestions? [22:34:16] i think it's related to a cookie issue [22:34:28] if i goto 10.10.0.12 (local ip) it works fine [22:34:47] I don't know the answer, but what are the values of the cookies it asks your browser to store? [22:34:51] That would be a reasonable first step. [22:34:59] wiki.domain.com is the hostname it uses [22:42:25] who wants to make Modern support rtl? [22:44:17] <^demon> flyingparchment: Do I get a prize? [22:44:23] Hey, guys ... how do I implement an infobox? Do I need to activate a template of some sort? [22:44:38] Also: can I possibly be any more n00b? ;-) [22:44:44] CardFire: an infobox is just a table with align="right" [22:44:58] or float right possibly, i forget [22:45:09] <^demon> float right, I think. [22:45:25] so injecting the template content into my wiki article will handle formatting tags, etc? it didn't seem to on first few tries ... [22:45:47] <^demon> A template just includes whatever you put in the template...you have to put the formatting there. [22:46:01] also, what is the delete tag again? [22:46:09] like, for unwanted articles, categories ... very small rocks [22:46:31] <^demon> CardFire: There is no /delete/ tag. It all depends on which wiki you're talking about. [22:46:59] to clarify, when we say "template" do we mean "formatting for an object/section in a specific page" or "formatting that is housed in its own document and implemented across multiple pages as required" ? [22:47:25] <^demon> A template has nothing to do with formatting. [22:47:29] i'm using MediaWiki most recent build (iirc) and I want to delete a "template:" article i accidentally manifested [22:47:40] ... hrmmm ... an infobox = formatting [22:47:48] and there are infobox templates [22:47:53] <^demon> Then you press "delete" on the top. [22:48:11] <^demon> And as far as that goes, it's because the template has formatting /in it/. You still have to define it. [22:49:27] Another question while I am here... Is there any extension that is good for creating familytrees? [22:49:48] CardFire: You create Template:Foo. you write "whatever" in it. now, whenever you write {{foo}} in a page, the wiki displays "whatever" instead. [22:49:56] ah [22:50:11] CardFire: that's all a template is: a way to substitute text [22:50:12] I see [22:50:55] <^demon> Oberoten: There's one on en.wikipedia but I'm not sure what it's called. [22:50:56] of course, the text can include formatting, and templates are often used for infoboxes, notice boxes and other things which would be annoying to type out every time [22:51:35] i always hate how much LARGER simple projects and technical objectives become before they grow smaller and more manageable [22:51:47] but then, that struggle is half the game anyhow, eh? [22:51:51] bah, perhaps more .. [22:58:53] is there a difference between {{SERVER}}{{localurl:Main_Page|action=purge}} and {{fullurl:Main_Page|action=purge}}? [22:59:33] anyone know where to enable SSL? [22:59:36] Hmmmm.... Wikipedia's version is a Template I take it and not an extension. [23:04:29] alright, in attempting to set an infobox, I have pasted the content under "usage" directly into a "template:infobox software" page, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Software [23:04:30] Zach, I shouldn't think so. [23:04:37] and It's not getting me off the ground here [23:04:38] :-/ [23:04:53] jorvis, enable SSL in your web server, then adjust $wgServer to use https: instead of http:. [23:05:23] CardFire, "Usage" means "Usage on a project that already has the template". [23:05:33] CardFire, you need to copy over the template and all templates it includes for it to work on your wiki. [23:05:54] CardFire, please note that it's probably illegal to use Wikipedia templates if your site's content is not licensed in a fashion compatible with the GFDL. [23:06:23] 03brion * r30086 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Revert r30078 -- formats "txt" and "dbg" dump raw unfiltered text contents into HTML output. XSS vector. [23:06:36] Simetrical: thank you, I will be sure to abide by the license restrictions [23:06:49] the one offered for their software won't suit our purposes anyhow [23:07:17] I basically want to tag servicing and support for the dozen or so software apps our company had made [23:08:00] Simetrical: you are saying that I must generate a document/page/article/BLAH with the name "Template:[desired template name]" [23:08:16] and the content therein will inject when called with {{}} [23:08:18] right? [23:09:32] CardFire : Yes, In the template you can put it as either {{{1}}} {{{Name}}} And then call the template with {{Template|Data for 1|Name=TheName}} [23:10:02] ... so sayeth the nerd that uses his Wiki to store character-sheets... [23:10:50] ... hah [23:10:52] awesome [23:12:12] CardFire, yes. [23:12:17] !templates | CardFire [23:12:17] --mwbot-- CardFire: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy. [23:12:56] ty for the linkage. i'll rock those roughly 10 minutes before I'm ready to start pulling hair [23:13:13] right now ... I just *might* have got it [23:14:07] I'm mostly unclear on how to call the template ... [23:14:33] if the template reads "A {{{1}}} ate your baby." then what do I type to inject "dingo" where appropriate? [23:15:51] Well, from the page that calls the template {{MyTemplate|dingo}} [23:16:45] Right. [23:17:50] For more easy readability to both you could make the "template:MyTemplate" page into| {{{Animal}}} ate your baby and then call it with {{MyTemplate|Animal=Dingo}} Which tends to make more sense when you look at it a month after writing it. :) [23:18:08] ... I can't get this dingo to eat the baby. it's rather maddening. [23:18:12] Oberoten: I'm going to try that ... [23:18:27] Simetrical : Sorry for hijacking, I hope I have not offended. [23:19:41] Hey, if you answer I don't have to. [23:20:18] Is the ArticleViewHeader hook called at each page view? Or only uncached ones? [23:20:50] btw, Oberoten, is that a pipe at the end of the word "into" or was it an erroneous "L" keystroke? [23:20:51] Hmmm... A question then perhaps... When I use Parserfunctions, I occasionally (quite often actually) get a lot of spill-over HTML or formatting tags. [23:20:59] frieze, if it's cached by Squid or similar non-PHP things, obviously it's not going to be called. [23:21:18] frieze, if it's just the parser cache, I would guess it's called from the name, but I don't know. [23:21:45] It was a pipe as an attempt to show : "Template begins after this" :) [23:22:01] I guess I'll slap a test together then [23:24:43] thanks [23:24:50] think I *might* get it now [23:24:52] *laughs* [23:25:17] If not I could probably slap up a few small examples for you to look at and dissect. [23:26:05] well, if you can give me examples including infoboxes specifically, I'd be indebted :-) [23:26:22] Lemme see what I can do... [23:26:36] ... hmm? What is the addy tot he sandbox? [23:32:27] hello [23:32:32] CardFire : http://oberoten.mine.nu/wiki/index.php/Template:NewFeature <-- Edit that one, the template call is on the top. [23:32:48] *CardFire rocks Oberoten's link [23:32:58] heh, the cube ... I remember that thing [23:33:01] CardFire : http://oberoten.mine.nu/wiki/index.php?title=Template:NewFeature&action=edit <--- And this is how the template looks when opened in the editor. [23:33:12] simple curiosity : why people replace "foo" by 'foo' ? [23:33:19] well, thank you very much :-) [23:33:38] Well, I am glad if I was able to help. :) [23:33:43] wow ... it actually requires html table formatting, I see [23:33:52] yes, helps tremendously [23:34:05] Ah... I use that one since I find it easier to wrap my head around than the wiki-table one. :) [23:34:09] ... but both are useable. [23:35:24] wiki-table, you say [23:35:28] *CardFire grins [23:35:34] starting to learn [23:36:25] Yeah... it has some REAL nifty options. If you want to... poke around my creations and see if there is anything you find useful. [23:36:51] Fair warning be given.. it is probably real geeky for an outside. :) Full of little "You HAD to be there..." moments. [23:36:55] Is there a simple way to track when users view pages? I saw some extensions that kinda do this, but all I need is something like a spreadsheet wehre each line has a username, pagename and date/time [23:39:31] Question : A lot of the more advanced templates seems to leave spill-over html when used, is there any way to avoid this? Especially when using #if parser functions. [23:40:13] Oberoten: I found that happened a lot when I was using tables but not using tidy. all those |'s make things weird [23:40:26] Oberoten, you want HTML Tidy. [23:40:41] It's a kind of nonsensical problem, as far as I can tell, but that's the solution regardless. [23:40:51] Okay. Nice to know. [23:41:03] Because ... the family tree thing looks HORRIBLE at the moment. ;) [23:45:58] 03brion * r30087 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES api.php): * Security fix for API on MSIE [23:46:03] ... Okay. How do I install that one? And where do I get it [23:46:04] ? [23:46:14] !tidy | Oberoten [23:46:14] --mwbot-- Oberoten: For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [23:56:20] Hello all, I have a problem with -valign="top" for a table.. it's causing the entire table to not work.. without using it, the situations is that I have a long narrow cell on the left, and on the right I have content that is in the middle of that cell.. I would like that content to go up... http://en.wiredtape.com/index.php?title=Main_Page/2 [23:57:24] Aaand ... Tidy enabeled. :) Thank you. [23:57:37] np :) [23:59:01] Wiredtape: tried style="vertical-align:top" ? [23:59:17] you need this for every cell, though (same for valign) [23:59:32] and what is the "-" up front supposed to do?