for each box... ie [11:44:30] and set to whatever I want it to look like [11:44:38] josiah: yes, write a parser extension. [11:44:52] lol i dont know how to write extensions :) [11:44:59] so in other words no [11:45:03] haha [11:45:11] ok well thank you guys... ill use

[11:45:30] I'm glad you didn't ask about descendant selectors, they suck [11:45:51] just put a class on everything, that's the way to go [11:46:39] ok [11:46:48] now i want to know about descendant selections lol [11:46:54] no you don't :P [11:48:44] how do I see what the current css is for the site? [11:49:48] use firebug [11:49:54] http://www.getfirebug.com [11:49:56] if you have firefox, that is [11:50:16] thats all i can use on this computer really... well the only thing worth using :) [11:50:25] hehe [11:50:33] there isnt another css file that is already in place [11:50:43] there should be some [11:50:45] not common.css [11:50:50] ok [11:50:51] thank you [11:50:53] yes, that'll be empty [11:51:01] but there are some other ones that come with mediawiki [11:51:02] yeah. [11:51:11] i was hoping for something to go off of when making my own [11:51:25] are there any sites that offer wiki skins? [11:51:29] I dunno [11:51:31] google it [11:51:48] doesnt pull up much for sites... at least nothing I can see that offers downloading [11:52:05] is there another wiki cms besides mediawiki? [11:52:07] *Werdna shrugs. [11:52:10] sure [11:52:13] check it on wikipedia :P [11:52:24] search wikipedia for comparison of wiki engines, or something [11:52:27] I know it's there [11:52:35] ok thank you [11:52:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software [11:52:59] ah [11:53:10] wow lots of them [11:54:47] You'd think that the section on MediaWiki would be relatively comprehensive. [11:54:49] You'd be wrong. [11:55:43] is mediawiki the largest one? [11:55:52] largest project [11:57:19] hello [11:57:46] could someone say me if it is possible to split the db of mediawiki in two db's? [11:57:57] *Werdna goes to bed, to read [11:58:02] my webhosting limits me to 45mo db [11:58:09] gluck_: yes, text can go into a separate database [11:58:13] and i approach the limit [11:58:19] cool! an url? [11:59:36] gluck: which wiki is that? [12:00:49] mine? a french one http://www.wikignole.be [12:02:33] we call the feature to put text in a different DB "external storage" [12:02:41] you can read about it in DefaultSettings.php [12:02:59] thanks a lot, i'll check it [12:03:04] $wgExternalStores, $wgExternalServers and $wgDefaultExternalStore [12:11:34] 03(FIXED) CreateMessageIndex.php throws an error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12565 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:18:50] how can I set global permissions/themes/etc? [12:32:47] 03(NEW) IE rtl.css issue in RTL wikis special: Preferences when selecting an LTR user language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12846 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (gangleri) [12:32:49] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745 (10gangleri) [12:35:56] 03(mod) Internet Explorer (IE) issues on Windows (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640 (10gangleri) [12:35:56] 03(mod) IE rtl.css issue in RTL wikis special: Preferences when selecting an LTR user language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12846 (10gangleri) [12:36:01] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10gangleri) [12:38:06] 04(REOPENED) CreateMessageIndex.php throws an error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12565 +comment (10huji.huji) [12:42:20] 03(NEW) Custom namespaces for Laos Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12847 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (passawuth) [12:48:52] 03(NEW) Custom namespaces for Laos Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12848 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (raimond.spekking) [12:48:53] 03(mod) Custom namespaces for Laos Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12847 (10raimond.spekking) [12:50:29] 03(mod) Custom namespaces for Laos Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12847 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:51:08] 03(mod) Namespace translations for Laos - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12848 summary (10raimond.spekking) [12:53:31] 03grondin * r30342 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesPt.php MessagesPt_br.php): Localisation updates for aliases and skinsnames messages from Betawiki [12:54:33] 03grondin * r30343 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesPt_br.php: Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [13:00:52] Can anybody tell me what wiki kb.cs-cart.com is using? [13:02:30] 03siebrand * r30344 10/trunk/extensions/Asksql/ (Asksql.php Asksql_body.php): [13:02:30] * update code [13:02:30] * delay message loading [13:02:30] * add $wgExtensionCredits [13:02:30] * remove trailing whitespace [13:11:54] hey guys [13:14:08] hi [13:14:18] hi hi [13:14:33] 03siebrand * r30345 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README Translate.php): Add link to special page in extension credits description [13:16:11] how can I set global permissions? I'm getting a lot of spam and I'd like to restrict access to users who have a valid login and email. [13:16:55] can someone help me ? i�d like to create a homepage with mediawiki, but i have no experience with it [13:17:21] i already installed mediawiki on a server and its running [13:17:46] but i have no idea of how to edit the menu on the left [13:17:55] Ameise: how much do you pay? [13:18:07] for what ? [13:18:15] !sidebar | Ameise [13:18:15] --mwbot-- Ameise: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [13:19:10] that was helpful^^ [13:19:24] seems to be quite easy afterall^^ [13:19:47] !rights | zeroflag [13:19:47] --mwbot-- zeroflag: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [13:20:15] !spam | zeroflag [13:20:15] --mwbot-- zeroflag: For more information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see . [13:20:26] the second may also be of interest. [13:31:35] 03siebrand * r30346 10/trunk/extensions/AssertEdit/ (AssertEdit.php AssertEdit_body.php): [13:31:35] * use $wgAutoloadClasses [13:31:35] * rename wfX() -> efX() [13:31:35] * add version in extension credits [13:32:43] 03huji * r30347 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.magic.php: Adding/updating Persian translations [13:41:05] 03(mod) IE rtl.css issue in RTL wikis special: Preferences when selecting an LTR user language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12846 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:41:17] I want to make mediawiki display the interface's language (for unregistered users) according to the user's browser, not according to $wgLanguageCode. is that possible? [13:44:01] 14(INVALID) Wrong errormessage from includes/Math.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12844 +comment (10huji.huji) [13:55:12] 03(mod) IE rtl.css issue in RTL wikis special: Preferences when selecting an LTR user language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12846 (10huji.huji) [13:55:22] 03(mod) Wrong errormessage from includes/Math.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12844 (10fredrik.agert) [14:01:41] anyone remmeber that bug/issue report for moving Images? [14:04:20] 03(mod) Wrong errormessage from includes/Math.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12844 (10raimond.spekking) [14:07:41] 03(NEW) Add MediaWiki to http://download.wikimedia.org/ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12849 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (raimond.spekking) [14:33:05] does anyone know how to get UNC paths working on media wiki 1.6? I followed the instructions for the newer version because I didn't see anything specific about 1.6... there was some changes I had to make to the two extensions that were in use for 1.6 but not specific to the UNC path [14:40:51] 03(FIXED) Localization of Special:Version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10365 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [15:04:39] if i want only select pages to use a javascript menu, how would i go about doing that? [15:04:51] i know common.js is for all pages, but i dont really want that [15:06:57] anyone? [15:10:58] 03nikerabbit * r30350 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (CreateMessageIndex.php export.php): * Fix checks [15:23:04] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 (10seventowers) [15:26:51] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [15:35:06] 03(mod) Oracle support - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652 +comment (10jasonrsears) [15:38:20] O_o [15:43:03] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 +comment (10seventowers) [15:55:39] is there any difference in how these lines are parsed $wgExtraNamespaces = array(104 => 'new',105 => 'new_Talk'); $wgExtraNamespaces = array(104 => "new",105 => "new_Talk"); one uses " the other ' ' [15:56:04] I pretty new to this is you can't tell :) [16:05:03] I'd like to use a mysql query to grab some text data from a mediawiki install. The data is just plaintext contents of a specific page. Where should I be looking? [16:13:44] Hi [16:14:03] *e_s_p is evanpro AKA Evan Prodromou from Wikitravel et. al. [16:14:55] So here's a question: I'm doing some parser functions for Microformats (http://microformats.org/) [16:15:12] I'm doing them as parser functions rather than tag extensions so that they work well in templates [16:16:29] The big bummer, though, is that the kinds of functions I'm writing have many, many possible arguments (like >20) and usually only a few will be used at any one time [16:16:52] So I've got two ideas as to what to do. [16:17:46] One is to fake up named parameters for the function. Like, {{#hcard:name=Evan Prodromou|email=evan@prodromou.name}} [16:18:13] anyone happen to know the bug for renaming images? [16:18:42] Where my code does the work of converting the argument "email=evan@prodromou.name", etc., into an associative array [16:18:43] nevermind. 709, looks like. [16:19:05] The other option is to just use positional parameters, and have a wrapper template for the function [16:19:31] Which makes installation a little harder, and makes the function a little less flexible [16:20:41] Now that I think about it, the second option is probably going to cause everyone the least headaches [16:20:50] Problem solved! [16:20:56] Thanks for the therapy session, folks. [16:21:03] hey evan, is this http://microformats.org/wiki/ the wiki you'll be developing for? [16:21:09] No [16:21:27] I'm writing extensions to generate microformats on other wikis [16:21:53] Ah ok. I was gonna say 1.4 might need an upgrade to do parser functions :) [16:22:28] Yeah [16:23:15] but I like that associative array idea... while it's less "user friendly" for people using the wiki, there might be some cool stuff you can do with it... [16:23:15] siebrand: ping. [16:23:46] My worry is that I write it, and then in a later version of MW some other named-parameter system is developed [16:23:56] But I guess I just roll with it, then. No biggie. [16:24:16] Actually, I thought it was more user-friendly. [16:25:35] provided that your users remember to name their parameters when calling the function, also it would make adding functionality to a function easier down the road [16:25:35] Take, for example, an hcard [16:26:03] TimStarling: pin [16:26:04] If I use positional parameters, then a nearly-empty call might look like: [16:26:29] {{#hcard:Evan Prodromou|||||||||||||||||||||evan@prodromou.name||||||||}} [16:26:40] Not exactly the easiest thing to get right [16:26:52] e_s_p: not true. [16:27:01] orly? [16:27:14] if that's param {{{9}}}, you can do: {{#hcard:Evan Prodromou|9=evan@prodromou.name}} [16:27:33] That's a nice shortcut [16:27:43] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 +comment (10seventowers) [16:28:03] that's true for templates, but is it true for parser functions? [16:28:15] true. i don't know. [16:28:29] Oh [16:28:41] If I've got a wiki with pages named A through Z .. each containing one sentence, and I want to create a file that contains all the sentences concatenated together. Which method would you recommend? [16:29:26] Make a file called "Everything" that contains "{{:A}} {{:B}} {{:C}} ... {{:Z}}" [16:29:42] By "file" I mean "page" [16:30:05] 03raymond * r30351 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [16:30:05] Tweak for r30349: Use existing message 'and' instead of introducing a new one. Thanks to SPQRobin :) [16:30:05] Message 'and' moved to a more general section in maintenance/language/messages.inc [16:30:57] e_s_p: I'll give that a shot, thanks. [16:31:15] 03(mod) Cannot rename/move images and other media files. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709 (10morbus) [16:31:23] CharlieHuggard: the other option is to have a wrapper template [16:31:40] Like Template:hc or something [16:32:09] Simetrical: ping. [16:32:14] howdy, since when does mediawiki support the subpages feature? [16:32:38] Which looks like "{{#hcard:{{{name|}}}|{{{email|}}}|{{{phone|}}}|...}}}" [16:32:54] PlasmaHH: as long as I can remember... before there were numbered versions [16:33:01] e_s_p: thanks a lot [16:33:11] I think it dates back to pre-phase3 [16:33:19] e_s_p: if you're writing this parser func yourself, can't you accept param '9' and param 'email' to be the same thing? [16:33:23] then you get the shortcut. [16:33:31] yes [16:33:45] I can write some code that lets the parser function take named parameters [16:35:22] AaronSchulz_: ping? [16:36:00] Morbus: pong! [16:36:15] Morbus: my choice is between faked-up named parameters, and using a template wrapper [16:36:30] e_s_p: If I wanted to create a list of all of those sentences, but generate the list based on similar named pages .. like {{:mypage-A}} {{mypage-B}} .. should i look into using a template? .. Or is there a better tool I should research? [16:37:07] Do you want links to the pages, or the content of the pages? [16:37:28] Yeah, a template is probably fine there [16:38:24] What I've got now is adequate, with just the contents .. but I'd really like it if I could have the name of the page on the left, followed by its contents .. or even better .. a parsed and truncated name (each name has a timestamp in it and the timestamp is what I'd like) .. then maybe parse and truncate some of the data in the page too :) [16:39:32] too complicated for a noob like me? [16:39:43] or will template research get me there? [16:46:23] siebrand: oh, hey. i was wondering if you've been following the image renaming/moving stuff on bug 709? and if it's similar, or Coming Real Soon Now, to the MediaMoveBot over at Commons? I'm working up to a large (10,000+) image database, and am in dire need of renames. [16:46:27] 03siebrand * r30352 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [16:46:27] * add OBSOLETE for GiveRollback, Makebot, Makesysop, and Oversight [16:46:27] * remove GiveRollback, Makebot, Makesysop, and Oversight from Translate [16:46:50] Morbus: same here, but it's just not there. [16:47:01] siebrand: even with all the recent stuff this month? [16:47:09] it's purportedly in core now, just disabled. [16:47:24] i'm not running HEAD so can't profess knowledge of it myself. [16:47:38] but i was /just/ about to investigate writing an extension to do a sloppy patchwork job of it. [16:47:45] and came across your bot and this core discussion. [16:47:45] Morbus: the programmer that promised to write the MediaMoveBot has not delivered, and it looks like the image backend rewrite will be there around the time SUL is delivered... () [16:47:58] SUL? [16:48:20] ok. so MMB isn't even a possibility if this core thing takes another year or so. [16:48:21] 03(NEW) history not clickable if in an rtl environment the chosen language is ltr - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12850 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (spacebirdy) [16:48:22] Morbus: extension CentralAuth. [16:48:46] Morbus: best bug a user called Betacommand [16:49:12] Morbus: allegedly he had the bot done. [16:49:18] siebrand: what? [16:49:22] i should know that name, as i've seen it elsewhere, but I profess ignorance into anything past "woot, i can make templates" in MW development. [16:49:43] Betacommand: uploaded image file renaming and moving. [16:49:57] Betacommand: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:MediaMoveBot [16:49:58] *Betacommand digs around [16:52:33] is it possible to add a wiki-link that changes the user's interface language? [16:53:54] 03(mod) history not clickable if in an rtl environment the chosen language is ltr - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12850 (10kalan.001) [16:54:06] PauloZanoni: no [16:55:24] Err wha? Wouldn't that be a bug in FF not MW? [16:56:12] 03(NEW) undefined function: validatetagattributes() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12851 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (alphazedd) [16:58:24] e_s_p: I'm trying to add a button that does this on my wiki... And it should be inside my template (which is a modified version from MediaWiki:Template/Languages). Is there a way to do this with some php code? [17:02:28] hey guys .. already checked the Extension Matrix .. any Extension for Managing Tags? And no .. not the TagAsCategory .. categories are already in (other) use :) [17:05:23] Betacommand: any luck? [17:05:41] Morbus: testing now [17:06:06] why not localize "Powered by MediaWiki"? [17:15:26] siebrand: what is the template for a rename error? [17:15:58] siebrand: see http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:DSCF0391.JPG there was no name given [17:16:09] Betacommand: {{rename media failed}}: signals that the rename request could not be processed because the target already existed. Manual review needed by a trusted user, so placed in Category:Media renaming requests. [17:16:29] siebrand: thanks [17:16:34] Betacommand: {{rename media request}}: signals that the rename request could not be processed by the bot because it was made by a non-trusted user. Manual review needed by a trusted user, so placed in Category:Media renaming requests. [17:16:54] Betacommand: pick any ;) [17:17:05] Betacommand: I think the first is better. [17:17:15] Betacommand: i'll update the description [17:18:21] Betacommand: updated now: *{{tl|rename media request}}: signals that the rename request could not be processed by the bot because it was made by a non-trusted user, or because an incorrect target name was provived, or because no target name was provided. Manual review needed by a trusted user, so placed in [[:Category:Media renaming requests]]. [17:23:24] siebrand: {{rename media failed}} does not exist [17:23:34] Betacommand: creating it now [17:25:05] Betacommand: done [17:25:46] 03(mod) Patroller group inaccessible to stewards - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 +comment (10vasilvv) [17:27:32] how can i make thumbnails in my wiki ? [17:28:08] siebrand: can you get me a list of approved users? [17:28:08] 03(mod) Protecting image description pages against creation does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12727 (10vasilvv) [17:30:19] Betacommand: there isn't one yet [17:30:47] siebrand: can you start making one? [17:31:34] Betacommand: what would you like the format to be? [17:31:45] siebrand: it doesnt matter [17:31:49] "* username"? [17:31:54] sure [17:32:00] Betacommand: ignore all other text? [17:32:10] siebrand: ?? [17:32:26] Betacommand: I am assuming the list will be on a wiki page. [17:32:48] siebrand: it will be an internal list [17:33:00] Ill update the wikipage whenever [17:33:24] siebrand: just like the move to commons bot on en wiki [17:33:27] Betacommand: if possible it should take it the smae way http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:CategoryRedirectBot/CheckPage does [17:33:38] Betacommand: Filnik has the code for it... [17:33:51] Betacommand: all admin users are also trusted users. [17:34:07] siebrand: just create the list [17:34:20] Im only going to work off the list [17:34:31] Betacommand: ? [17:34:34] Im not going to chech admin status [17:34:46] Betacommand: there's readily available code for that.. [17:34:51] Filnik: ping? [17:35:00] yes, what? [17:36:01] Filnik: can you point Betacommand to the code that checks if a user is admin or trusted for a process? As used with http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:CategoryRedirectBot/CheckPage? [17:36:39] Betacommand: http://www.botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Python:CategoryRedirector.py <-- the code is here, let me find the function [17:37:16] oh, there's not a function [17:37:45] Betacommand: well, I think that's quite simple to understand :) the interesting part is from "trustList" [17:38:00] search it in the page and you'll find the force, luke :) [17:40:10] Betacommand: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:MediaMoveBot/CheckPage [17:41:11] *Betacommand wonders why the bot is not uploading [17:41:35] hello [17:47:34] siebrand: can you give me rollback on commons? [17:48:03] Betacommand: has not been configured as such (no separate role has been defined) [17:48:13] ahh [17:53:05] is there any way to prohibit a particular user from changing their password? [17:53:26] blocking ? [17:53:55] sorry, nevermind [17:54:58] TimLaqua: no way [17:55:52] TimLaqua: how would it help? [17:57:41] Hojjat: eh, tied to the PasswordReset extension. People are asking for "disabling" features. So what it *was* doing was setting the password hash to "DISABLED" and then hooking GetBlockStatus and blocking users who were disabled [17:58:31] *was*? What is it doing now? [18:00:06] ok, that's what it's still doing. in LoginForm::mailPassword, there's an isBlocked() check. That's where I'm blocking users with "DISABLED" password hashes [18:00:30] but people are saying that certain users are still able to email themselves new passwords despite being disabled. [18:00:46] siebrand: its kinda working [18:02:42] And there's also a check for !wgAuth->allowPasswordChange() in LoginForm::mailPassword() - which was the source of my question [18:03:24] basically, i'm just trying to block LoginFrom::mailPassword() for particular users [18:03:50] Betacommand: that's kinda nice ;)) [18:04:11] siebrand: just need to work out a few bugs [18:04:54] hey guys i have a little problem i was hopeing i could get some help clearing up. [18:05:05] im trying to add .zip support for uploading [18:05:09] so i added $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'zip' ); [18:05:20] to the local settings php file [18:05:44] altho i keep getting The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again. [18:05:58] could anyone help me out? [18:09:18] Wiredtape joins #mw today with his new ubuntu install.. ;) [18:10:33] nombyte: this could mean that the extension didn't return a valid mime-type. [18:11:02] from whatever mime-checking thingies that your server users. [18:11:03] *uses [18:11:09] um, what would you recomend? [18:11:15] it'd be pretty odd though for that to be the culprit. [18:11:20] have you tried other zip files? [18:11:31] yes [18:11:35] about to try a gif [18:11:54] ok even a giff does the same ting [18:12:00] so there is a problem somewhere [18:12:30] but i don't know where to start [18:26:52] hey, can i hide edit history from users that are not logged in? [18:35:21] i just tested uploading a jpeg and that worked fine [18:35:24] could someone please help me? [18:36:02] !ask | nombyte [18:36:02] --mwbot-- nombyte: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [18:37:12] well if u look up above you will see that I already asked my questions... So instead of sending me on a 'learn how to ask questions in irc' chase why don't you just help me? [18:37:39] nombyte, and getting snappy certainly isn't the way to get help :P [18:37:55] :) [18:38:16] not snappy just asking [18:38:58] since i've already done what VasilieVV asked of me, why would she want to waste my time? [18:39:56] and i didn't mean to write she because i don't know ur gender, sry :D [18:40:49] 03(NEW) ISO 8601 date format support in Simple English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12852 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (huji.huji) [18:40:54] plus looking at that page it says to be precise so if you look above you will find out that I was precise [18:41:33] nombyte: i think VasilievVV was implying that if someone /could/ help you, they /would/. and you asking for help again made the assumption that someone /could/ help you but they /wouldn't/, without you asking again. [18:42:00] i don't have any further suggestions and/or am out of time. [18:42:00] thus, why i have stopped answering. [18:42:18] or I could have asked again because I noticed new people have logged on... [18:42:38] which negates your "i asked the question above already" response ;) [18:42:40] in which that doesn't help me for asking for help in a general mannor... but ya :D [18:42:45] lol u type quicker then me [18:43:08] heh. anyways, the first thing i'd try is more research. [18:43:24] upload a jpg or zip through ftp, get to a shell and type "file " or "type " [18:43:44] i only have an ssh connection [18:43:55] and see if it reports the right mime-type. if it doesn't, there's your problem. if it does, your next step ∑ould be to test otu the PHP-specific means of mime-detection. [18:44:03] the fact that you can upload a JPG, however, rules out any permission or upload issues. [18:44:12] ya thats why i gave that a shot [18:44:15] and GIFs are usually smaller than JPGs, so that'd rule out an upload maximum. [18:44:55] nombyte: you can tunnel file uploads over ssh with an sftp client. [18:45:21] right but i didn't know if 'file' would work from a regular bash shell [18:45:41] it will, yes. [18:45:45] "file -I file.gif" [18:46:08] you're looking for the right mime-type of gif and zips. anything like application/unknown, or application/octet-stream, or ???/??? is bad. [18:46:27] 03tlaqua * r30353 10/trunk/extensions/PasswordReset/ (PasswordReset.php PasswordReset_body.php): * Changed from direct DB query to get password hash to creating a new User object via User::newFromName and checking mPassword [18:46:29] anyways, afk. [18:46:45] grim20reaper_1.zip: application/x-zip [18:47:15] ok thanks for yor help thus far [18:47:39] hello :) [18:47:49] hello [18:48:28] 03siebrand * r30354 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (23 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-01-31 19:40 CET) [18:49:00] I sadly have to ask a question the third time. [18:49:14] nombyte: do you know php or anything supa-fun like that? [18:49:24] i know a bit [18:49:33] I just started up a fanpage wikipedia for an online game, and I would like to know where I can exactly find the sourcecode for wikipedias infobox [18:49:40] i was gonna go in and just take the checks out all together to be hones [18:49:40] t [18:49:42] nombyte: the only reason i'm sending you down this path is because i had very similar circumstances as you. [18:49:47] people hint me to svn all the time but Iam unable to find it there... [18:50:03] nombyte: and i found, after trying out the various mime-type detections that PHP has, that one of them was the culprit. [18:50:17] nombyte: so that'd be the next thing i suggest - try out each method on an upload GIF file. [18:50:28] Niki-: Are you meaning for the infobox template on the wiki? You can pull it straight from wikipedia itself [18:50:29] nombyte: ideally, you won't want to remove them entirely, because lack of mime-type support will cause some extensions to fail. [18:50:34] such as OggHandler, off the top of my head. [18:50:40] CharlieHuggar1, you can? how [18:50:42] ya true [18:50:44] and i dunno what will happen to images. [18:51:04] Niki-: yeah, sure. [18:51:04] CharlieHuggar1, I think its a generated script, not just a template [18:51:07] ok so ill see which works best, is there a list somewhere of the mimetypes it looks for? [18:51:12] Niki-: it depends how crazily you want to get. [18:51:17] you can pull off /specific/ boxes. [18:51:19] like application / zip instead of application / x-zip [18:51:35] Niki-: Can you give an example of what you want? [18:51:45] nombyte: different methods in php look at different things. if all those methods fail, MW has a dirty guesser built in, but that's a last resort. [18:51:49] Well in this game I want to make an article for every existing weapon [18:51:54] gotcha [18:52:02] Niki-: http://www.videounderbelly.com/wiki/Death_by_guidelines [18:52:03] whoops. [18:52:04] ok thanks gives me some direction atleast [18:52:04] and just generate the article abut an infobox then, like damage.. image [18:52:06] and so on [18:52:07] Niki-: http://www.videounderbelly.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Film [18:52:15] that's an infobox_film, pulled from wikipedia. [18:52:21] it requires Template:! as well. [18:52:40] you can see it in use on http://www.videounderbelly.com/wiki/A_Night_to_Dismember. [18:52:46] no dot. [18:53:05] Niki-: incidentally, what game? :D [18:53:30] Graal Kigndoms. a small cheap 2d mmorpg [18:53:30] lol [18:53:52] awesome you made my day [18:53:53] awesome, thanks :D [18:54:26] looks like a good game. [18:54:31] what's your URL? [18:54:59] niki.gentoo-clan.org [18:55:06] I will put some reference to your wiki [18:56:07] you know anything about quest creation in the player worlds? [18:56:17] yes [18:56:18] I do [18:56:24] got a link? i'd love to see a quick overview of it. [18:56:32] I do it myself [18:56:35] graalonline.com [18:56:53] its costs moneys, but only like 2 dollars a month... [18:57:07] yeah, i'm looking at that site, saw the playerworlds, and am seeing the docs, but nothing is jumping out as quest creation. [18:58:25] hey morbus [18:58:31] yeah when you install it [18:58:37] there is a leveleditor [18:58:39] putting a simple echo $mime; [18:58:47] it shows 'text/plain' [18:58:53]