... [15:32:07] let me firebug it [15:32:29] add to each of the table cells [15:32:30] firebug? [15:32:32] lol [15:32:33] style="padding:0;" [15:32:57] it's not padding though, it's spacing or borders, surely... not the internal cell padding? [15:33:20] its padding [15:33:27] doesn't work though, lo.... [15:33:43] ok [15:34:38] cellspacing="0" works for me [15:34:57] try adding a newline before the |- [15:36:21] ah, perfect :-) [15:36:22] how strange! [15:36:28] god i hate syntax, lol [15:36:57] that's the one thing that puts me right off programming, ya know, the soooo incredibly picky syntax rules - i appreciate why they're needed, but they just annoy me anyway! lol [15:37:17] not just with mediawiki either, of course, C, C++, PHP, Java, anythign! [15:38:20] anyway, thanks dude! [15:39:50] yw [15:55:38] Simetrical: I agree, deleting query.php goes against everything about backwards compatibility. [15:56:04] Your idea is good. [16:03:02] MinuteElectron: hmm [16:04:06] MinuteElectron: what idea? [16:04:16] and where did Simetrical wrote that? [16:04:23] *AzaTht is confused [16:05:35] *Jack_Phoenix votes '''for''' killing query.php [16:07:14] AzaTht:toolserver-l [16:07:20] Jack_Phoenix: bad idea [16:07:50] since it's obsolete, no need to keep it...and who use(s|d) it anyway? [16:08:06] people are already using it so deleting it would ruin loads of useful tools [16:08:16] MinuteElectron: it's mostly old and unmaintained scripts that still uses query.php [16:08:44] AzaTht: so, that doesn't mean it isn't useful. [16:08:54] useful? [16:09:13] aha, you mean the script [16:09:22] it is still useful as it is being used, even if the tool it is being used by is old that doesn't mean it isn't being used [16:09:53] at the moment query.php isn't really useful, as it's allready broken in some places [16:10:16] it would require much work to fix those bugs, and even more work to convert it to use the api [16:10:32] no one will freely do the former [16:10:47] and few have the time and spirit to do the latter [16:11:24] and the current code of query.php should be deactivated, as it can be a server hog [16:13:08] like http://en.wikipedia.org/w/query.php?what=revisions&titles=Main%20Page&rvuniqusr&rvlimit=3&rvcomments&rvcontent [16:13:13] *------ Error: Exception Caught: A database error has occurred [16:14:05] So I think the best action would be to force everyone to use the api instead [16:14:29] instead of giving the false impression that the query.php will be supported indef [16:15:44] also, people has known for over a year that the query.php is beeing replaced by api.php [16:19:08] /end monolog [16:21:08] maybe give people some time to migrate after announcing it and before dropping it [16:22:23] they have had plenty of hours allready! [16:23:20] *Jack_Phoenix agrees [16:24:02] twoo weeks? [16:24:04] -o [16:24:45] AzaTht: yeah, we just need to be sure to post to the bot boards/tech boards [16:24:52] true [16:25:08] because god knows some bot... somewhere [16:25:12] is probably using it [16:25:12] lol [16:25:16] hehe [16:26:06] pywikipedia is using query.php [16:26:38] ugh... so then I take it back; seemingly every bot, everywhere :P [16:27:08] doesn't pywikipedia still do screen scrapes, too? [16:27:14] yea [16:28:49] 03nikerabbit * r30473 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialTranslationChanges.php: * Sublabels not needed anymore [16:29:13] slakr: it's only one module in pywikipedia that used the query [16:31:14] slakr: unless someone stands up and want to maintain the query, it's bye bye [16:32:39] pff, api.php is far superior [16:32:52] :P [16:32:53] yea [16:33:03] and it's less of an serverhog [16:34:06] there is only some small things left in the api, edits and usergenerators for example [16:34:38] 03(mod) Login and account creation should be by secure http. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12884 +comment (10hissongcle) [16:35:31] AzaTht, slakr, an interesting opinion has been stated by Simetrical: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2008-February/001241.html [16:36:09] {{sofixit}} ? [16:36:18] enhydra: as slakr just said ツ [16:36:40] I can said neither Yurik nor Roan will do that [16:36:46] I've lost my connection during last minutes, so I could miss it [16:36:59] I mean I think it's safe to say "zOMG we're removing it!!" the nwait a couple months to let the general panic die down :P [16:37:07] slakr, yes, I just wanted to suggest this... [16:37:21] (I mean your {{sofixit}} above) [16:37:49] enhydra: I meant, neither Roan or Yurik will change the query to a wrapper to the api [16:38:02] so you would need to find someone else to do that tedious work [16:38:05] I just don't know if turning query.php/api.php into patchware is the best approach [16:38:12] slakr: agree [16:38:35] I would say, give a one month warning, then delete it [16:38:36] besides [16:38:45] we've had a warning on query.php that it was depreciated [16:39:34] oh wait n/m [16:39:40] *slakr could have sworn it was [16:39:49] AzaTht: Alternatively we could say that 1.12 is the last version that has it and it is deleted on the 1.13 release? [16:40:19] MinuteElectron: remember that live wp doesn't use release [16:40:27] so? [16:40:42] 3 months is ample time and it is doing very little harm (it hasn't caused any problems and has been enabled without maintenance for many many years) [16:40:44] MinuteElectron: good point, but since wikimedia basically uses svn, we need to inform wm people on a timeframe [16:40:53] yeah [16:41:03] 3 months is a fair ammount of time, no? [16:41:08] *slakr agrees [16:41:16] I don't think we should give a too long grase period [16:41:21] why? [16:41:29] what harm does it do sitting there. [16:41:32] risk is that people forgot about it and gets angry when it's beeing removed [16:41:51] weekly reminders to the mailing list? [16:41:55] yea [16:42:00] but the greater risk is that there's not enough time for people who have written old bots based on it to scurry to update to api.php [16:42:02] and a big notice at the top of it when you don't specify anything [16:43:19] slakr: indeed [16:43:35] slakr: just like that you have to code in COBOL just because the 30 year old software is written in that language? [16:43:54] *slakr troutslaps AzaTht [16:43:57] :P [16:43:57] hehe [16:44:08] 30 years != to 3 months [16:44:19] s/to// :P [16:44:27] I think most bot software that still used the query AND is unmaintained, doesn't work [16:44:31] plus, cobol? *hurl* [16:44:45] s/bot// [16:45:04] as there has been major changes in the interface of MW the last year [16:45:06] AzaTht: So, you can hardly expect someone to recode a bot in two weeks - 3 months is more like it. [16:45:27] *slakr is just saying... juuuuust in case [16:45:38] MinuteElectron: might be... [16:45:47] :P [16:46:05] slakr: don't you want to end the discussions "Didn't you get the memo"? [16:46:14] ooooo [16:46:18] tempting.... tempting..... :P [16:46:21] AzaTht: Well you have to factor in the fact that people go on holidays (in some parts of the world it is summer) and that people often have other commiitments. [16:46:36] MinuteElectron: well, ok [16:46:50] *slakr tries it out... AzaTht: didn't you get the memo!? [16:46:52] recoding a bot is sometimes a big task [16:46:52] :D [16:46:58] slakr: I wrote it! [16:47:14] okay, but did you BCC it to yourself? :P [16:47:22] hehe [16:47:31] no, I CC:ed it [16:47:54] heh, I tend to avoid doing that so that people don't think I'm schizo [16:48:01] :P [17:06:55] meh [17:17:08] mediawiki installation says diff3's not found, even though I have it installed... anything I need to set? [17:18:04] Is it in path, though? [17:18:54] 03siebrand * r30474 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesMl.php: Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [17:19:23] Actually, looks like it's a variable. $wgDiff3 [17:23:53] 03nikerabbit * r30475 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/ (5 files): * Alternative for enhanced (or enchanted) changes list that we have been using on betawiki for ages [17:29:29] hello :) [17:30:08] i have a probem - i use the media wiki 1.6 and why can i not set, that guest can not create or edit article? [17:35:48] a budy has say, that normaly it have to function? OO [17:37:33] 03siebrand * r30476 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [17:37:33] * add descriptionmsg to CleanChanges [17:37:33] * change message name [17:37:33] * remove EOL whitespace and empty lines [17:37:33] * add support for cleanchanges to Translate [17:39:57] T-Vairus: 1.6 is a pretty old version [17:41:40] i know :( but i have not php 5 on the server...not yet. [17:41:46] ah [17:41:55] but my buddy has 1.6 and it function with the guest safe [17:42:03] that guest can not create new articles [17:42:06] :S [17:42:55] I don't remember exactly how 1.6 had their permission setting [17:46:22] T-Vairus: Check in your Localsettings.php if you have some sort of setting there [17:46:51] ok - one second please :) i will check it [17:50:05] if an extension (QuizExtension) causes "Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfLoadExtensionMessages() " , how can i get wfLoadExtensionMessages()? [17:50:09] mh - i dont know where i have too look in that file [17:50:31] hello [17:51:00] i've just downloaded the latest stable and read skin.txt. however, I did not find the mentioned files: [17:51:09] MZMcBride: please block http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.113.75.48 [17:51:13] "To change the layout, just edit the PHPTal template (templates/xhtml_slim.pt) [17:51:13] as well as the stylesheets (stylesheets/monobook/*)." [17:51:46] i want to adapt the default skin to my needs and style [17:54:52] Betacommand: are you around ? [17:55:46] 03siebrand * r30477 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): AutomaticGroups is obsolete [17:55:56] siebrand: blocked that spambot, thanks (sorry, MZMcBride ;-) [17:56:50] mutante: either get older version of that extensions from svn or update your mediawiki [17:57:26] 03grondin * r30478 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]] [18:05:03] AaronSchulz: ping? [18:05:10] what? [18:06:03] AaronSchulz: proper fallback has been implemented for extensions using wfLoadExtensionMessages. Would you mind if I converted FlaggedRevs to use it in 2 message groups? [18:06:20] do I have to edit the Monobook.php file? [18:06:33] (afk 10 mins, putting kids to bed) [18:06:53] because I don't find that PHPTal stuff.... [18:07:03] 03grondin * r30479 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php): add catfeed extension for translation tool [18:07:24] PHPTal stuff is very old and not used nowadays, I think [18:07:30] whatever, as long as it works [18:12:03] Jack_Phoenix, so i have to edit the Monobook.php? there is no central file; I simply choose a skin that I want to edit? [18:12:10] yes [18:13:01] 03aaron * r30480 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Make this one query [18:13:36] AaronSchulz: it should. :) [18:13:36] 03(NEW) suggestions for modern skin - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12894 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Modern skin; (wiki.bugzilla) [18:14:08] AaronSchulz: any pending commits? Shouldn't be too much of a problem, as core code remains about the same... [18:14:18] no [18:15:48] *VasilievVV tries to find out how many active developers we have [18:16:12] VasilievVV: 1½? [18:17:59] hmm... [18:18:11] VasilievVV: TortoiseSVN should be able to give you an idea... [18:18:12] 03nikerabbit * r30481 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges_body.php: * Something broke this syntax, but fortunately the subpage syntax has started to work, so use it [18:18:35] VasilievVV: about query.php, neither roan nor yurik will patch it up any more, and it's allready borked [18:19:02] VasilievVV: last 5000 revisions had 68 authors [18:19:22] VasilievVV: that's since 2007-09-04 [18:20:57] VasilievVV: aaron, brion, mkroetsch, nikerabbit, siebrand, yaron has made the most commits. [18:22:29] core software: brion, tstarling, aaron, amidaniel, catrope, huji, simetrical, me [18:22:29] i18n+cleanups: nikerabbit, rotem, siebrand, raymond, grondin [18:22:29] some SMW developers... [18:22:29] some extensions developers... [18:22:44] ok [18:23:32] Only 8 developers sometimes seriously modifies software, implementing some features and fixing bugs [18:23:33] :( [18:25:13] http://www.ohloh.net/projects/22/contributors?sort=code_reverse - nice contributions measurement tool [18:25:49] 14(DUP) Special:Recentchangeslinked should allow namespace selection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12871 +comment (10wiki.bugzilla) [18:25:49] 03(mod) "Related changes" should allow namespace selection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9481 +comment (10wiki.bugzilla) [18:26:08] O_o... [18:26:20] I've modified 13,701 lines of code... [18:27:07] hmhm, 170k for me [18:27:31] but those i18n committes change huge amounts of lines [18:28:02] and I have poor comment ratio because back then i18n didn't have comments :) [18:28:19] 03(NEW) make recent changes lines customizable - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12895 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (mati) [18:29:22] just when I committed cleanchanges :D [18:32:06] 03(mod) Special:Recentchangeslinked should allow namespace selection - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9481 summary (10danny_b) [18:32:20] http://www.ohloh.net/projects/22?p=MediaWiki [18:32:30] http://www.ohloh.net/projects/22/factoids/325468 [18:36:38] 03(NEW) A way to bypass Spam Blacklist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12896 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Spam Blacklist; () [18:58:39] 03vasilievvv * r30482 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist_body.php: * (bug 12896) A way to bypass Spam Blacklist [19:00:05] ok, i thought my life was perfect, but I have run into a problem [19:00:21] I am trying to load the bodytext into a variable and I am using monobook [19:00:25] i do this; $TheText = $this->data[ 'bodytext']; [19:00:39] inside php tags obvisouly [19:00:53] but the problem is that not only does it assign it to the $TheText variable [19:00:58] 03(FIXED) A way to bypass Spam Blacklist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12896 +comment (10vasilvv) [19:00:58] but I also get DISPLAY [19:01:17] is it in what kinds of tags? [19:01:20] Ricco: Did you happen to put it inside rather than ? [19:01:27] i need to use that data in a form later [19:01:34] no, i used Can you paste your PHP file at http://rafb.net/paste/ ? [19:02:02] hold on [19:03:13] 03catrope * r30483 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php filerepo/LocalFile.php): (bug 12875) Adding query-continue to prop=imageinfo. Patch by Bryan Tongh Minh. [19:03:30] 03(FIXED) prop=imageinfo has no query-continue - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12875 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:03:54] is it possible to rename the Image: namespace, and if so, will images work when using the new name? [19:04:50] roankattouw you get it here? http://rafb.net/p/xyDslL67.html [19:05:20] search down for "Ricco" [19:05:26] you will see where I have started the form [19:06:12] Ricco: Are you sure $TheTitle doesn't contain any " characters? [19:06:28] not sure what you mean [19:06:44] ah, you mean ... got it... no the title does not [19:06:45] Well you have [19:07:08] yeah, i am passing the title and the body text to another program [19:07:17] to process the text into an mp3 file [19:07:31] Can you show me an example of your problem? [19:07:45] ah [19:07:49] i think you are on to something [19:07:55] hold one sec [19:08:58] it only is happening if there is a space in the title [19:09:11] single word titles don't make it happen. [19:09:35] Maybe replace spaces with underscores like you do for another variable? [19:09:41] let me just change the order of the two assigns and see if that tables care of it [19:09:45] yeah, i do that [19:09:54] one sec [19:09:59] your comment was spot on [19:12:13] Hi can anybody write a small gadget which adds a tab with a short url using the "oldid" link syntax see http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268 268 Short-hand link / URL for referring to specific version [19:13:22] how do i rename the Image namespace to File on my wiki? [19:13:28] gangleri: Can't you write a template that contains [{{fullurl:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|oldid={{{2}}}}} {{{3}}}] ? [19:13:34] not an alias, truely rename. [19:13:58] Zach: On it [19:14:09] RoanKattouw I think this is a real gadget application [19:14:58] Zach: Edit Namespace.php, [19:15:06] Around line 10 [19:15:23] gangleri: you better ask in the wikiproject user scripts or whatever is called [19:15:38] I'm not sure a bugzilla will help [19:15:38] ok Snowolf I need links like http://yi.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?oldid=11706 [19:15:40] aw crap, i don't want to edit files.. [19:15:53] There's no other way [19:15:58] then when i update from svn, my changes will be wiped out? [19:16:04] Yes [19:16:17] Unfortunately [19:16:28] Only if someone changed Namespace.php though [19:16:38] Which hasn't happened in the last 7 weeks [19:16:43] 03(mod) Allow downloading multiple image files in a compressed archive - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7866 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [19:16:48] ro... ok, it seems to have been the construction of my echos that built the form [19:17:02] All you need to do is replace "Image" with "File" and "Image talk" with "File talk" *once*, on top of the file [19:17:03] i was escaping " but it looks like ' will work... I think I am good [19:17:15] can't I make a $wgCanonicalNamespaceNames in my LocalSettings.php? [19:17:35] Hmm I don't know whether Namespace.php is included before or after that [19:17:45] it should be moved out of that file and into DefaultSettings.php [19:17:51] Why don't you try? No guarantee it'll work [19:17:55] But you could try [19:18:37] ro, I am on my way [19:18:39] thanks [19:20:21] wait, how do other languages change the name of the namespaces? [19:20:32] Zach: Those are aliases [19:20:42] On German wikis, both Benutzer and User work [19:20:59] Those names are in LanguageNN.php [19:21:08] NN being the language code (En, De, Fr, etc.) [19:21:11] but Benutzer doesn't redirect to user? [19:21:19] No, the other way around [19:21:28] I think [19:21:30] Lemme try [19:21:39] aliases redirect, but alt. languages don't? [19:21:47] Yep, User --> Benutzer [19:28:12] is there any reason that $wgCanonicalNamespaceNames shouldn't be in DefaultSettings.php? otherwise i'm gonna put a bugzilla up for it [19:30:12] 03btongminh * r30484 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): Added siprop=namespacealiases to meta=siteinfo [19:30:26] Zach: Do so [19:33:57] done [19:33:59] 03(NEW) Move $wgCanonicalNamespaceNames to DefaultSettings.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12897 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (zach) [19:44:57] !r xeb [19:44:57] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=xeb [19:46:22] AaronSchulz: "function setImageVersion( $title, $article )" shouldn't that be "public static function setImageVersion( $title, $article )"? Getting a strict warning about it. [19:46:59] AaronSchulz: FlaggedRevs.php, around line 1250 [19:55:34] RoanKattouw: ping [19:56:56] RoanKattouw: cm and iu [19:59:44] 03(mod) DOM-Like Preprocessor Automatically Expands First Argument - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12842 minor->15enhancement; +comment (10david.sledge) [20:02:39] 03siebrand * r30485 10/trunk/extensions/ (10 files in 3 dirs): [20:02:39] * FlaggedRevs uses wfLoadExtensionMessages now (moved i18n files one level up) [20:02:39] * add descriptionmsg in extension credits [20:02:39] * fix Strict Standards: Non-static method FlaggedRevs::setImageVersion() cannot be called statically in phase3\includes\Hooks.php [20:02:39] * remove trailing whitespace [20:02:41] * update Translate [20:02:59] 03grondin * r30486 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php CentralAuth.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]] [20:03:05] AaronSchulz: done [20:03:17] RoanKattouw: alive? [20:03:35] in which function is the imagelinks table updated? [20:03:38] can't find it [20:04:35] Bryan: Probably somewhere in the parser [20:04:40] Or the Linker [20:04:41] LinkBatch maybe [20:04:47] AzaTht: What about cm and iu? [20:05:21] cm takes without namespace and iu takes with namespace in it's parameter [20:05:37] Rigt [20:05:46] File @ BugZilla and assign to me [20:05:55] done that I think [20:06:05] a month or so ago [20:06:06] !b [20:06:06] --mwbot-- http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=`e1 [20:07:05] There's no bug assigned to me or with component=API whose summary contains "imageusage" or "categorymembers" [20:07:59] hmm [20:08:05] I know we talked about it [20:08:14] perhaps you added it to your TODO list instead [20:09:16] LinksImage [20:10:18] RoanKattouw: perhaps you had it on your todo list, but changed something similar and removed it [20:10:46] It's not on there either, weird [20:11:00] hmm [20:11:09] I'll fill a bug then [20:12:05] 03grondin * r30487 10/trunk/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ (ChangeAuthor.i18n.php ChangeAuthor.setup.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]] [20:13:17] 03(NEW) imageusage and categorymembers lacks consistency - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12898 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (azatoth) [20:13:19] RoanKattouw_away: there [20:13:35] 03warx * r30488 10/trunk/tools/planet/pl/config.ini: added Radomil to pl.planet [20:15:03] 03siebrand * r30489 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: * extension credits tweak (use array of authors, name above authors) [20:15:31] 03river * r30490 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): bug #12894: missing css classes; new messages bar conflicts with tagline and subtitle; new messages bar should be less subtle [20:16:15] 03(FIXED) suggestions for modern skin - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12894 +comment (10river) [20:34:20] 03grondin * r30491 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [20:34:20] * Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]] [20:34:20] * Add new extension messages to Translate extension tools [20:36:25] Can somebody help regarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts/Requests#bugzilla_268 ? [20:43:49] Good afternoon everyone. [20:45:02] flyingparchment, thanks :-) [20:47:32] I'm trying to find instruction on how to backup mediawiki using rsync. [20:47:59] 03(ASSIGNED) imageusage and categorymembers lack consistency - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12898 summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:49:45] AzaTht: wikibugs seems to've dropped it, but I've accepted the bug and clarified it a little [20:50:02] ok [20:50:35] RoanKattouw: [21:13:17] (NEW) imageusage and categorymembers lacks consistency - http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12898 enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (azatoth) [20:51:57] 03grondin * r30492 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/ (CheckUser.i18n.php CheckUser.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]] [20:56:20] Fenyx: first of all, you need something to rsync. wiki data is kept in the database, not files, so rsync by itself is useles. [21:01:01] 03nikerabbit * r30493 10/trunk/extensions/CharInsert/CharInsert.php: * No need to load description message for every request [21:02:35] Duesentrieb: Ah, so I should be looking into how to rsync my mysql db? :) [21:04:18] Fenyx: first dump, then rsync. alternatively, you can also copy mysql's data directory directly, but you would have to shut down the database server for that to work safely (or at the very least, set it to read-only first). and sinde the innodb storage engine stuffs everything into a single file, this only makes sense if there's not much else on the server. and of yourse, you'd need access to the raw data. [21:04:55] 03(mod) Login and account creation should be by secure http. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12884 +comment (10minuteelectron) [21:05:03] Fenyx: just look for instructions to make a backup of a mysql database. once you got that, you can rsync the files all you want. but rsync won't help you much, you'll be dealing ith one-large-file anyway. [21:05:20] Fenyx: for an incremental backup, look into mysql's live replication feature. [21:05:25] How can I change the maximally allowed number of 'recursed' templates? [21:05:38] Thanks Duesentrieb. [21:05:48] Taldor: afaik to allowed number is "none". [21:06:31] Duesentrieb: atm it works once [21:06:45] only in noinclude, afaik [21:07:55] that's possible, but can this setting be changed? [21:09:53] if it can't be changed (easily), does that mean it's generally a bad idea to use multiple levels of transclusion? [21:12:19] Taldor: multiple levels are ok - *recursion* is not. [21:13:19] ther eare limits on inclusion overall, per page - but it's not a specific number of depth. the limits are by "pre-expand size" and "post-expand size", and i have no cluie where they can be configured :) [21:14:10] this is what I'm trying to get working: http://radakan.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:%3D&action=edit [21:14:37] it should return as may =-es as the argument you pass to it [21:16:09] that'S not going to work. [21:16:33] recursion is forbidden. [21:17:04] Taldor: conditional recursion makes a language turing complete. which makes it a bit hard to make sure your page ever gets rendered. [21:17:13] AzaTht: Ah, saw it, I obviously don't know how to scroll ;) [21:17:31] a "loop" type construct has been proposed many times, but i think it doesn't exist, and is not going to [21:17:49] a "repeat" type thingy for repeating a string n times would be feasable - perhaps the StringFunctions extension has it [21:18:02] !e StringFUnctions [21:18:02] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFUnctions [21:18:26] !e StringFunctions [21:18:26] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions [21:18:32] yea, damn type :) [21:18:41] Abuse #pad? [21:18:42] anyway, don't see it at first glance. would make sense to add it there. [21:18:42] thanks [21:19:10] ah, {{#pad}} can probably be used to do that [21:19:28] {{#pad:|20|=}} [21:20:07] 03(mod) Short-hand link / URL for referring to specific version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:21:33] Hi everyone ! [21:26:39] RoanKattouw_away: that would be 203 ;) [21:30:30] Hello, everyone! [21:30:58] Got a wiki-coding question for anyone who might be able to help me with it. [21:31:59] I have a problem with templates [21:32:00] In arabic WP, in بوابة:سوريا (Portal:Syria) there are tpl like this one: {{{{اسم_كامل}}/مقدمة}} [21:32:00] The first part (اسم_كامل) means "_fullname". The second one (مقدمة) means "Introduction". The result is similar to including {{بوابة:سوريا/مقدمة}} (Portal:Syria/Introduction). [21:32:00] I can't reproduce this behavior on a local MW: what's the way to enable this kind of substitution with the `_fullname` template ? [21:35:12] RoanKattouw_away: ok [21:35:44] How do you code text boxes to have a little space around them on a page so that the text around them doesn't come right up next to the box? [21:36:11] 03(mod) Implement a validation check for ISBN links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2391 +comment (10gangleri) [21:38:17] 03(mod) ISSN Magic Numbers - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3663 (10gangleri) [21:39:57] 03(mod) ASIN sources support (fighting ads in articles for audio/video) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8758 (10gangleri) [21:41:50] How do you code text boxes to have a little space around them on a page so that the text around them doesn't come right up next to the box? [21:44:04] style="padding: 0.5em;" [21:46:15] Thank you Bryan, but I meant on the outside of the box. [21:47:34] ZenBodhi: use "margin" instead of "padding" then [21:54:03] 03(NEW) Italian Wiktionary - Case sensitive only in NS=0 and NS=1 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12899 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (grandepuffoo) [21:58:58] 03siebrand * r30494 10/trunk/phase3/ (18 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-02-03 22:50 CET) [22:04:09] 03(mod) A way to bypass Spam Blacklist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12896 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:07:15] MinuteElectron: Right. I obviously know nothing about HTTP response codes [22:07:21] Oh now I remember, 403 = Forbidden [22:07:51] hmm, #switch expands the nameNode twice often [22:08:03] not good [22:08:16] 03(mod) Short-hand link / URL for referring to specific version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268 (10roan.kattouw) [22:08:17] RoanKattouw: :P [22:08:46]