[00:08:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wrong global variable in SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12931 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (lejonel)
[00:27:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) [PATCH] Add <form> to list of non-paragraph-mode tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12932 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (ahel)
[00:32:34] <jlerner_>	Duesentrieb: from the debug log on the source - "POST /Special:Export/Lymphedema"
[00:32:50] <jlerner_>	shouldn't that be a GET?
[00:33:09] <jlerner_>	when do a POST by telnet'ing to port 80, i get html back..
[00:33:57] <Duesentrieb>	that's odd. perhaps *look* at that html? maybe it's an error message.
[00:35:04] <jlerner_>	it looks very normal: http://pastebin.com/d2af0e22a
[00:35:44] <jlerner_>	this all worked fine this morning, when both target and source were 1.10
[00:35:49] <jlerner_>	very strange
[00:35:49] <jlerner_>	oh well
[00:36:06] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner_: oh, wait... you have your wiki pages in the document root, right?
[00:36:13] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. using very short urls?
[00:36:16] <jlerner_>	rewrite rlues
[00:36:35] <Duesentrieb>	yes. but without a bas dir. i.e. the solution all the fat red boxes in the docs tell you NOT to do.
[00:36:50] <jlerner_>	you mean like /wiki ?
[00:36:51] <Duesentrieb>	1.11 has even more problems with that
[00:37:23] <Duesentrieb>	yes. /wiki or /page etc is btter. without it, you'll get problems, for practical as well as technical reasons.
[00:37:37] <jlerner_>	i know it - i had no choice in the matter .. ;-)
[00:38:58] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner_: well, the pathinfo thingy is broken in 1.11 when pages are mapped directly into the doc root. you need to set $wgUsePathInfo = false; and rewrite to /index.php/?title=$1
[00:39:12] <Duesentrieb>	this *may* fix your problems.
[00:39:22] <Duesentrieb>	you should do it in any case.
[00:39:39] <jlerner_>	already have the former: $wgUsePathInfo = false; # 1.11
[00:40:01] <jlerner_>	fwiw, i have this rewrite rule: RewriteRule (.*) /index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]
[00:40:19] <Duesentrieb>	hm. should work, i guess.
[00:40:28] <jlerner_>	no worries, thanks for the help
[00:40:43] <Duesentrieb>	i'm not sure if the second / in the instructions is actually a mistake, or some magic...
[00:41:16] <Duesentrieb>	the thing about pathinfo is the only change about 1.11 that i can imagine could cause your problem
[00:41:25] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, good luck. i need to go to bed.
[00:47:52] <Rene>	hi all
[00:48:04] <Rene>	anyone available for help ?
[00:48:55] <Rene>	:(
[00:49:02] <Kyrin>	Well
[00:49:13] <Kyrin>	it never hurts to ask and perhaps get an answer
[00:49:31] <Rene>	need help on using special characters in the sidebar
[00:49:52] <SimonMoon>	Anyone ever moved a wiki from postgres to mysql? Mainly i would like to know how i could move the whole wiki over (including users)
[00:50:21] <Rene>	it seems that &euml; shows up as &euml;
[00:50:30] <Rene>	how do i fix that ?
[00:53:28] <OverlordQ>	SimonMoon: Bah, that sounds like a downgrade :P
[00:54:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wrong global variable in SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12931  (10N/A)
[00:54:45] <SimonMoon>	It actually is
[00:54:55] <Duesentrieb>	SimonMoon: migrating content can be done via XML dump. migrating the actual database will be a major adventure
[00:55:13] <SimonMoon>	I have to move from a slightly newer version, to  aslightly older version of MW and from postgres to Mysql, and of course to a completely different server
[00:55:15] <Duesentrieb>	Rene: use a character reference that is actually valid in html.
[00:55:25] <Duesentrieb>	Rene: there is no umlaut for e.
[00:55:36] <SimonMoon>	Duesentrieb: i have the content with dumpBackup, but the actual user data is not in there...
[00:56:05] <CIA-42>	03vyznev * r30602 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[00:56:05] <CIA-42>	Make the default robot policy a configurable option.
[00:56:05] <CIA-42>	Also replace some odd hardcoded robot policies (for Special:Specialpages and for nonexistent images) with 'noindex,nofollow', which seems more
[00:56:05] <CIA-42>	appropriate at least for the latter. I'm not quite sure _why_ Special:Specialpages was marked as 'index,nofollow' before; it's been that way since
[00:56:08] <CIA-42>	r1284. It might be safe to just leave it at the default setting, but I don't really think it makes much difference either way.
[00:56:14] <Duesentrieb>	SimonMoon: yes. which was my point, kind of.
[00:56:50] <SimonMoon>	Duesentrieb: any ideas on how to get the userdata from one to the other ?
[00:57:06] <Duesentrieb>	no.
[00:57:07] <SimonMoon>	If i am getting it right, thats the only thing i would be missing after importing the data
[00:57:18] <Duesentrieb>	look into some generic migration manual for those dbs
[00:57:34] <Duesentrieb>	you'll also be missing the image data, and all logs.
[00:58:22] <SimonMoon>	even on a full dump with the dumpBackup?
[00:58:31] <SimonMoon>	I would import all images anyways
[00:59:05] <Duesentrieb>	Rene: actually, forget what i said - html knows euml (though there *real* is no umlaut for e - it should be called ediaresis or some such). mediawiki supports it too, it seems. no idea why it wouldn't work in the sidebar.
[00:59:42] <Duesentrieb>	SimonMoon: dumpBackup is for page content only. it will include image *pages*, but not file metadata - without which, images are not usable.
[01:00:14] <Duesentrieb>	you'd have to run rebuildImages.php --missing after copying the images. that should fix it nicely.
[01:00:57] <SimonMoon>	Thats all i really need, except the user data.. so thats the thing I will miss after all this?
[01:01:56] <Duesentrieb>	yes. you'll have to try the sql route for this. relevant tables are user and user_groups
[01:02:17] <Duesentrieb>	try to export to ansi-sql, and import that. look at some migration guide
[01:02:17] <SimonMoon>	thanks, I will try a dump and rewrite it for mysql
[01:04:15] <Rene>	Duesentrieb: Ok, I was sure about the e-uml beacause the word I want to use has one, but wile using it it shows like a questionmark in a square...
[01:04:17] <Duesentrieb>	n8
[01:04:22] <Rene>	gute nacht
[01:05:19] <SimonMoon>	Duesentrieb: if i get this working somehow, any advice on where i could publish my little expedition on the mediawiki page approriatly?
[01:06:23] <Duesentrieb>	no idea. make a new page on mediawiki.org. link it...somewhere.
[01:06:47] <SimonMoon>	hehe, thats what i was thinking, where would be a good place to link it :)
[01:08:25] <Duesentrieb>	no clue, sorry. search for places that already mention postgres, or that deal with general database stuff.
[01:08:33] <Wiredtape>	g`night everyone, Duesentrieb, screen is awesome btw.. :)
[01:08:48] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: indeed :)
[01:09:20] <Duesentrieb>	SimonMoon: it would be good to collect all postgres stuff on one page, and link that from the faq (and other places, like the configuration hub)
[01:09:27] <Duesentrieb>	perhaps you could start that
[01:09:34] <Duesentrieb>	ok, off for real, now
[01:09:40] <SimonMoon>	maybe.. gotta get it working first though :)
[01:09:45] <SimonMoon>	cu
[01:13:40] <aleichem>	on nl:wikipedia we made a new help and some users see a strange thing on their screen - is this the channel to ask questions about that?
[01:16:07] <aleichem>	using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetCaptor
[01:23:23] <Rene>	nite all
[01:23:24] <CIA-42>	03brion * r30603 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (AutoLoader.php MimeMagic.php XmlTypeCheck.php): (log message trimmed)
[01:23:24] <CIA-42>	More file type checks...
[01:23:24] <CIA-42>	* Switch XML type detection/validity check from dipping for XML processing
[01:23:24] <CIA-42>	instructions, doctypes, or subtags to just trying to parse it and checking the
[01:23:24] <CIA-42>	root element's name and namespace. This lets us properly handle SVG files which
[01:23:26] <CIA-42>	specify a namespace but no doctype, as well as rejecting files that aren't
[01:23:28] <CIA-42>	well-formed. (See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SVG_validity_checks for some
[01:23:33] <brion>	man i get all my best work done when avoiding other work
[01:25:02] <AaronSchulz>	brion: :)
[01:25:37] <brion>	ok, time to go home i think
[01:28:21] <Skizzerz>	have a safe journey :)
[01:29:06] <Pathoschild>	Is the {{ROOTPAGENAME}} going to be implemented? The Wikipedia Signpost article mentioning it isn't clear whether it was reimplemented after being reverted.
[01:35:38] <hippietrailwork>	links to nonexistent special pages come up as red links even though there is no real article and it can't be edited: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&action=submitlogin&type=login&returnto=Special:Api
[01:44:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) parse error, syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12903  (10N/A)
[02:04:16] <illmasterc>	anyone use extensions or know of functionality to include a subpage on a page with a toggle - able content fill?
[02:05:00] <illmasterc>	meaning page a has subpage b with lots of info and i want to include it in a and allow users to expand and contract the content of b on a
[02:07:41] <illmasterc>	is this unclear?
[02:12:56] <illmasterc>	hmmm sounds like transclusion
[02:22:07] <illmasterc>	hmmmm, is there  a way to do transclusion with another page instead of a template?
[02:24:30] <zomgfreenick>	weird mediawiki problem:  I installed mediawiki into a postgresql db under the schema name wiki1, made some articles, then installed another instance under schema wiki2.  Now using either path I see (and can edit) the fresh install of wiki2.  ideas?
[02:38:01] <illmasterc>	is the overburden of resources the reason the ajax search is not used in wikipedia?
[02:42:47] <ronnyr>	hey is there someone experienced with pcs?
[02:43:02] <ronnyr>	I just bilt a system from scratch and experience some troubles...
[02:49:21] <Omtay38>	Question: Is a way to display the date a page was created with magic words, ParserFuctions, a template or something else?
[02:52:49] <Splarka>	displaying the information on the last edit is doable via magic word, eg: {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}  -> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Page_names_and_related_info
[02:54:10] <Omtay38>	alright, now harder question: can you display the information about the last edit of *another page*
[02:58:27] <Splarka>	possibly via DPL
[02:59:16] <Omtay38>	DPL?
[02:59:36] <Splarka>	!dpl
[02:59:36] --mwbot--	The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList> and <http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List>.
[02:59:57] <Omtay38>	will read, thanks!
[03:09:21] <SimonMoon>	Anyone got an idea under what DB scheme mediawiki would call the user table "mwuser"? There is no users table..
[03:09:50] <SimonMoon>	and no it's not the prefix, the group tabel is "user_group"
[03:10:50] <flyingparchment>	SimonMoon: postgres calls it that, because user is a reserved word
[03:11:00] <flyingparchment>	apparently changing the name is easier than quoting the name
[03:13:27] <SimonMoon>	flyingparchment: Hmm, that makes sense, thanks. Now i gotta write a convert script for the dump..
[03:13:44] <flyingparchment>	create view "user" as select * from mwuser;
[03:13:51] <flyingparchment>	(postgres supports insertable views, iirc)
[03:14:11] <SimonMoon>	I got a pg_dump file
[03:14:39] <SimonMoon>	All i ned to convert is the users really, the rest i got over by dumpBackup.php (allthat i really need)
[03:17:40] <Zelut>	how difficult is it to migrate a manual install to an svn managed install?
[03:21:02] <shortcircuit>	Zelut: Depends
[03:21:23] <shortcircuit>	Does the system you've got it on have svn installed?
[03:21:48] <Zelut>	shortcircuit: yeah, its my own server so i've got whatever i need.
[03:22:11] <shortcircuit>	Seems to me it should just be a matter of checking it in.
[03:22:36] <Zelut>	using:
[03:22:39] <Zelut>	svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_11/phase3 . ??
[03:23:14] <shortcircuit>	I'm not that great with svn command-line syntax, sadly.
[03:23:27] <Zelut>	well i'll give it a try. worst case i have daily backups
[03:23:31] <shortcircuit>	Copy your MW install to a temp directory, and play around with it.
[03:24:12] <shortcircuit>	Once you've got it checked in, you can replace your public site with a repo'd one.
[03:24:35] <shortcircuit>	But play around with it in temp dirs until you've got a handle on it.
[03:25:27] <shortcircuit>	Question for anyone: Any programs out there that can convert a MW site to LaTex or similar?
[03:26:20] <shortcircuit>	I'm thinking about selling copies of my wiki as a way to pay for its hosting. (With all due attention paid to the CC license, of course.)
[03:28:27] <jtsage>	shortcircuit - not sure about direct conversion, but i do know there are a number of html -> tex converters out there -  certinally be more work that way though
[03:28:38] <shortcircuit>	Hm.
[03:29:12] <CIA-42>	03yaron * r30604 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Fix for value-setting bug introduced
[03:30:07] <shortcircuit>	I suppose I should figure out exactly how I'd want the book laid out, and then dig into the database schema to figure out how to extract what I need.
[03:30:27] <shortcircuit>	Well, it's a programmer's wiki.  I've got a great community of geeks to get help from. :-)
[03:30:38] <jtsage>	hehe
[03:33:00] <jtsage>	is there any way to either 1.) create a "default" user page for each user, or, 2.) alter the title for only pages in the user namespace - i'm using an integrated login and my usernames are not overly helpful - real name however would be, i'd like to either put it on the users page by default or set the title to contain it
[03:38:46] <shortcircuit>	jtsage: There's a Special: page where you can modify the defaults for just about everything.  Let me see if I can find it again.
[03:40:29] <shortcircuit>	Take a look around Special:Allmessages ... It's the one I was thinking about, but I'm not certain it'll have what you're looking for.
[03:41:52] <jtsage>	it has a few things that got me closer - i was able to mess with titles over the whole wiki (which was another project), but not on a namespace only basis - no matter really, of all the things i have gotten working, this is pretty low on the list :)  ty
[03:42:05] <shortcircuit>	np
[03:42:54] <Splarka>	hmm
[03:44:56] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinSubPageSubtitle  is in the contentSub, just below the <h1>, you might be able to hook that, check namespace, grab 'real name' and output maybe
[03:46:03] <jtsage>	Splarka - ah.  ty.  that gives me a starting place anyway.  very cool
[03:49:05] <jtsage>	btw, props to all on mediawiki in general.  I had done a few basic installs before this one and was pleased, but this is the first time I've really gotten into the guts of the thing.  It's a hell of a package
[03:50:51] <Splarka>	I don't see any other useful (specific) hooks for that, but maybe a general pre-rendering hook will let you grab the <title> and <h1> and hack it: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks
[04:04:18] <jtsage>	ahh.  yeah, that may work too.  ty for your time :)
[04:11:37] <jlhenry>	hello
[04:11:44] <jlhenry>	I do not get it;
[04:12:46] <jlhenry>	i set up the last version of MW with mod rewrite and everything is ok except that when there is /index.php in URL. It thinks that index.php is a page
[04:13:08] <jlhenry>	so I cannot edit pages or even create an account
[04:13:19] <MZMcBride>	is your folder name the same as your rewrite rule?
[04:13:23] <MZMcBride>	!rewriteproblems
[04:13:23] --mwbot--	1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[04:13:41] <MZMcBride>	point 4
[04:14:15] <jlhenry>	strange beaviour
[04:14:23] <jlhenry>	yes it should be that!
[04:14:51] <jlhenry>	thanks!!!
[04:15:23] <MZMcBride>	no problem
[04:26:21] <illmasterc>	is common.js included in the install or is this a file we make that will be always included?
[04:30:17] <Splarka>	both...ish
[04:31:12] <Splarka>	'common.js'   => '/* Any JavaScript here will be loaded for all users on every page load. */'
[04:31:13] <Splarka>	is the default
[04:31:58] <Splarka>	it is loaded via the <script> tag that calls: index.php?title=-&amp;action=raw&amp;smaxage=0&amp;gen=js&amp;useskin=______  where _____ is the default skin (it also loads MediaWiki:______.js
[04:33:12] <Splarka>	both modifable via the pages titled [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Monobook.js]] (default)
[04:33:52] <illmasterc>	oooooooooooooooooooooooooh
[04:34:23] <illmasterc>	okay, why is it done this way?
[04:34:33] <illmasterc>	thanks first off
[04:34:54] <Splarka>	legacy issues I suppose...(?)
[04:36:27] <Splarka>	gen=js will generate the common.js + skinname.js automagically, depending on what skin is being used
[04:37:09] <Splarka>	although it gets cached being action=raw, so the &useskin parameter was added, so at this point it would probably make sense to load both files the same as the CSS files are loaded, (eg both by name)
[04:38:34] <Splarka>	or did you mean something else?
[04:38:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide combo box containing protection expiration suggestions (as on Special:Blockip) to protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10188  (10dan_the_man)
[04:50:46] <illmasterc>	splarka
[04:50:50] <illmasterc>	sorry I was diving in
[04:51:01] <illmasterc>	thanks for being helpful, I haven't had much luck on the channel
[04:51:50] <illmasterc>	I was asking why it's done that way because it seems it's giving developer like privileges to someone who can edit a page
[04:54:09] <Splarka>	ahh
[04:54:13] <Splarka>	that namespace is restricted
[04:54:35] <Splarka>	by default, pages in the MediaWiki: namespace can only be edited by the 'sysop' user group
[04:56:24] <illmasterc>	okay
[04:56:38] <illmasterc>	it still seems weird that you would put js into there though
[04:56:49] <illmasterc>	does it get stored in the page, revision, text tables like everything else?
[04:57:36] <Splarka>	same as any page, yah, but loads as ctype=text/javascript in the browser
[04:57:57] <illmasterc>	right
[04:58:07] <illmasterc>	okay thanks again for the help... of to bed
[04:58:11] <illmasterc>	*off
[04:58:25] <Splarka>	much of the interface is editable in data stored that way, see Special:Allmessages
[05:34:27] <pembo13_com>	hi... doing a quick eval. of wiki's implemented in PHP... my only real question for now is how customizable is the look of MediaWiki?
[05:34:59] <pembo13_com>	I want to be able to implement somthing similar to my current theme, http://pembo13.com/ in MediaWiki
[05:36:14] <Pathoschild>	!skins | pembo13_com 
[05:36:14] --mwbot--	pembo13_com: Overview: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Skins>. Gallery of CSS styles: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles>. Writing your own: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning>
[05:36:22] <Pathoschild>	Very customizable. :)
[05:36:36] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, thanks... exactly what i needed... will read up
[05:38:45] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, seems like it's doable
[05:39:05] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, i just hope it doesn't require much from the host, since i'll be using it on a hosted system
[05:39:26] <Pathoschild>	Nope, as long as you have access to the files.
[05:39:33] <Pathoschild>	Make sure your host has PHP5 first, though.
[05:40:40] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, darn
[05:40:47] <pembo13_com>	well that's a no go i'm pretty sure
[05:41:06] <Pathoschild>	There's an old version available for PHP4.
[05:41:22] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, so i see, i'm on the requirements page
[05:41:43] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, what's the support policy like? ie. will i be able to get help here if i go with 4.3.0?
[05:41:54] <pembo13_com>	1.6.10 i mean
[05:42:26] <Pathoschild>	There are plenty of users (like myself) and developers willing to help, but there's no support personnel.
[05:43:02] <MrZ-man>	and some newer extensions won't work with 1.6
[05:43:29] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, yah i understand the no support personnel... didn't mean that
[05:43:37] <pembo13_com>	MrZ-man, i see
[05:43:54] <pembo13_com>	one more reason to dread using hosts
[05:44:15] <MrZ-man>	or you can bug your host to upgrade PHP
[05:44:16] <pembo13_com>	Pathoschild, i know some times using older versions of software is frowned upon
[05:44:26] <pembo13_com>	MrZ-man, about to attempt that
[05:46:07] <Viper007Bond>	i just ran /maintenance/generateSitemap.php. it worked, but google is complaining that the URLs to the sitemaps are relative and when i open up the sitemaps, it's using http://localhost/wiki/blah/
[05:46:28] <Viper007Bond>	so a) how can i make them full paths? and b) why is it localhost?  my wiki runs at http://wiki.finalgear.com/
[05:46:42] <Viper007Bond>	main sitemap: http://wiki.finalgear.com/sitemap-index-finalgear_wiki.xml
[05:50:37] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30605 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialVersion.php): 
[05:50:37] <CIA-42>	* (bug 12931) Fix wrong global variable in SpecialVersion
[05:50:37] <CIA-42>	* Housekeeping RELEASE-NOTES: max line lenghts 80 chars.
[05:51:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wrong global variable in SpecialVersion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12931  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[06:02:10] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30606 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/FileDeleteForm.php): 
[06:02:10] <CIA-42>	* (bug 12919) Use 'deletedrevision' message as content when deleting an old file version
[06:02:10] <CIA-42>	Patch by Alexandre Emsenhuber
[06:02:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Use deletedrevision message as content when deleting an old file version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12919  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[06:18:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GlobalAuth.php code review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12270  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[07:09:58] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30607 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.php: Remove mistake
[07:19:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide combo box containing protection expiration suggestions (as on Special:Blockip) to protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10188  (10N/A)
[07:20:40] <_wooz>	lo
[07:20:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide combo box containing protection expiration suggestions (as on Special:Blockip) to protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10188  (10N/A)
[07:44:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide combo box containing protection expiration suggestions (as on Special:Blockip) to protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10188  (10N/A)
[07:48:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide combo box containing protection expiration suggestions (as on Special:Blockip) to protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10188  (10N/A)
[07:57:58] <yang>	How can i setup <references/>
[07:58:35] <soroush>	yang, it's an extension. see Special:Version in wikipedia to find it
[07:59:00] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[08:02:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) What links here not restrictive enough for templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12933 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (dh85868993)
[08:11:22] <yang>	do you know of a good manual of importing images from the older mediawiki installation ? Should I refer to Backup_a_wiki
[08:18:16] <zomgfreenick>	weird mediawiki problem:  I installed mediawiki into a postgresql db under the schema name wiki1, made some articles, then installed another instance under schema wiki2.  Now using either path I see (and can edit) the fresh install of wiki2.  ideas?
[08:19:38] <axewell>	hai! how do I get rid of the /index.php/ in the path?
[08:21:15] <yang>	it isnt explained how to import images in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[08:24:54] <yang>	And I think that i am importing from 1.7 mediawiki to newest ersion (images)
[08:26:50] <zocky>	random word of advice: when using parser functions to construct metadata, be sure to reset your data structures once the page is saved, or you'll end up inserting thousands of times more data, like I did
[08:27:16] <zocky>	when importing thousands of pages, that is
[08:27:31] <zocky>	it works alright without that step for normal editing
[08:28:24] <axewell>	yang: you need to enable upload first
[08:28:32] <axewell>	then upload, then use Image tag
[08:30:52] <yang>	actually in 1.7. the images directory is /var/lib/mediawiki/upload ...
[08:31:15] <yang>	no, i need to import 100 picutres from previous installation
[08:34:05] <zocky>	page names can't end in "_", right?
[08:34:24] <zocky>	{{int:}} seems to be unaware of that
[08:36:01] <zocky>	{{int:edit_}} returns <edit_> even though mediawiki:edit exists, and mediawiki:edit_ can't be created
[08:36:09] <soroush>	yang, it's just enough to copy images to new directory. I have considered you have imported all databases before
[08:38:20] <yang>	yes i had
[08:39:08] <soroush>	yang, so you shouldn't have any problem. are the settings like the last wiki?
[08:39:53] <yang>	so simply from previous /var/lib/mediawiki/upload I move them in the new /var/lib/mediawiki/images ?
[08:40:31] <yang>	do i need to run some importimages script after that?
[08:41:42] <soroush>	yang, if you have imported all database no script is required to be run
[08:42:00] <soroush>	you just should set image variables well like the last one
[08:42:10] <yang>	ok
[08:42:17] <soroush>	I can't remember all of them yang. Check manual
[08:42:23] <soroush>	!manual
[08:42:23] --mwbot--	An introduction to using MediaWiki is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents>, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Copying> for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents>. For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub>.
[08:42:35] <yang>	variable like permitable iamge formats?
[08:43:09] <soroush>	yang, there was one which told how to save images. in directories or not and...
[08:43:24] <soroush>	!configuration
[08:43:24] --mwbot--	All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_MediaWiki>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script>
[08:44:00] <soroush>	yang, the manual:configuration says everything
[08:46:46] <yang>	thank you it works now :)
[08:49:16] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30608 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): * Prettify software section of [[Special:Version]] a bit
[08:50:17] <Splarka>	zocky: does it do the same thing if wfMsgReal() (or any variant) is called with such a title too>
[08:50:57] <zocky>	Splarka, wfMsg does
[08:51:21] <Splarka>	$key = str_replace( ' ' , '_' , $wgContLang->lcfirst( $key ) );
[08:51:49] <Splarka>	could probably be fixed there in wfMsgGetKey() to crop leading/trailing, but that begs the question (to turn a phrase), is it needed?
[08:52:27] <Splarka>	or better to strip it in intFunction(), heh
[08:54:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) assigning an id to the "rollback" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11472  -patch  (10raimond.spekking)
[08:54:43] <Bretton>	I wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to start my project and I have read alot, is there anyone that can tell me what to download so I can start working my project
[09:02:01] <axewell>	hai! how do I get rid of the /index.php/ in the path to mediawiki
[09:02:06] <axewell>	some faulty apacheconfig?
[09:03:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set $wgLoginLanguageSelector = true; for all WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12934 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (raimond.spekking)
[09:06:40] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Special:Userlogin should remember uselang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11139  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[09:15:01] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30609 10/trunk/extensions/gis/transversemercator.php: 
[09:15:01] <CIA-42>	* (bug 12271) GIS/transversemercator.php code review
[09:15:01] <CIA-42>	Patch by AlNo
[09:15:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) GIS/transversemercator.php code review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12271  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[09:20:37] <Danny_B>	Simetrical: here?
[09:30:27] <zocky>	Splarka, re {{int:edit_}}: i would expect the underline to be stripped when the title of the mediawiki message is calculated. Title::getDBKey or something. I'm too lazy to check if wfMsg uses that at all, but it probably should if it doesn't.
[09:33:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GlobalAuth.php code review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12270  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[09:34:15] <Werdna>	!shorturl | axewell 
[09:34:15] --mwbot--	axewell: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[09:49:32] <zocky>	!rewriteproblem
[09:49:32] --mwbot--	1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[09:50:55] <jons>	I'm trying to create a Special page. The page gets listed in the Special-page-listing but when I click the link mediawiki tells me that the page doesnt exists. I've pasted the code: http://rafb.net/p/aoiRi078.html could someone tell me what im doing wrong?
[09:53:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wrong archive URL in FileDeleteForm::prepareMessage() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12935 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (raimond.spekking)
[09:53:33] <axewell>	Werdna: ty :)
[09:53:42] <Duesentrieb>	jons: your class should have a constructor that calls the super-constructor providing an internal name for the special page
[09:55:02] <Duesentrieb>	jons: function __construct() { SpecialPage::SpecialPage( 'Whatever', '', true ); }
[09:55:06] <jons>	Desentrieb: How would that look? I've been reading the mediawiki page for creating specialpages but never seen that mentioned.
[09:56:43] <Duesentrieb>	jons: it's right here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#The_Body_File
[09:57:02] <Duesentrieb>	though the example uses an old-style constructor (i.e. a function with the classes name, instead of __construct)
[09:57:22] <Duesentrieb>	SpecialPage::SpecialPage("MyExtension"); <-- that's where the super-constructor is called.
[09:57:59] <Duesentrieb>	jons: uh, looking at your code, you do do that... i was confused by the old-style syntax. maybe that's a problem? not sure.
[09:58:34] <Duesentrieb>	sorry for being confusing.
[10:09:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Configuration directive ($wgDBmwschema) under the PostgreSQL backend is only used while installing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12936 major; high; MediaWiki: Database; (yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[10:09:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PostgreSQL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[10:13:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configuration directive ($wgDBmwschema) under the PostgreSQL backend is only used while installing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12936  (10yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[10:13:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PostgreSQL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[10:23:58] <drivermadness>	Hello, anyone know how I can stop guests from editing articles. Something with this $wgGroupPermissions I think
[10:24:32] <ialex>	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
[10:29:10] <ialex>	Raymond_: ping ?
[10:29:22] <Raymond_>	ialex: pong
[10:29:56] <ialex>	Raymond_: i think "Licence" in english is "License"
[10:31:22] <Raymond_>	ialex: hmm yes.. licence is british english
[10:32:08] <Raymond_>	will fix it
[10:32:16] <ialex>	thanks
[10:35:42] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30610 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix my british english slang from r30608: Licence -> License :) Thanks to Ialex.
[10:35:56] <ialex>	:)
[10:46:56] <BjornW>	can somebody tell me how to enable the table button in the mediawiki tolbar?
[10:47:00] <BjornW>	toolbar
[10:47:56] <Duesentrieb>	BjornW: the what?
[10:48:55] <Duesentrieb>	ah, i see it in the english wikipedia
[10:49:04] <Duesentrieb>	generally, additional buttons are added with a bit of javascript
[10:49:07] <BjornW>	The toolbar above the text area when editting a text shows a toolbar. In the example of table creation there is a table button added to this toolbar. I'd like to add this to my local mediawiki :) 
[10:49:09] <Duesentrieb>	it's described in the FAQ
[10:49:33] <Duesentrieb>	note that that button only exists in teh english wikipedia. it's a local hack.
[10:50:14] <BjornW>	Duesentrieb: ok, any pointers to more info about this hack?
[10:50:33] <Duesentrieb>	BjornW: general info for adding edit buttons is in the faq, as i said.
[10:50:45] <Duesentrieb>	the code for this specific button is in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js
[10:50:55] <BjornW>	Duesentrieb: looking at it now, but haven't found it (yet)
[10:50:58] <Duesentrieb>	look for Button_insert_table
[10:51:27] <Duesentrieb>	BjornW: err, when i search for "buttons" on the faq page, it's the first thing i see...
[10:51:44] <BjornW>	Duesentrieb: on the mediawiki site?
[10:51:49] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[10:51:57] <Duesentrieb>	where else?
[10:52:10] <BjornW>	Duesentrieb: just checking
[10:52:25] <BjornW>	Duesentrieb: found it. Thanks!
[11:26:59] <phrearch>	hi
[11:28:02] <phrearch>	can someone please help me with this styling issue in a table?
[11:28:03] <phrearch>	http://pastebin.com/m35d462ef
[11:28:25] <phrearch>	i seem to be unable to style anything other than the table header with a class
[11:28:57] <phrearch>	 |- class="foo" should work for a row shouldnt it?
[11:32:02] <Duesentrieb>	row tyles are somewhat odd. but i think you have to terminate it with a |
[11:32:06] <Duesentrieb>	have you tried per cell?
[11:32:29] <phrearch>	no, not per cell yet
[11:32:50] <phrearch>	ill try those two options. thanks :D
[11:33:10] <phrearch>	 |- class="osfNotYetDone"|
[11:33:12] <phrearch>	like this?
[11:33:23] <Duesentrieb>	that's what i meant
[11:33:31] <Duesentrieb>	but it works without that too, when i try it:
[11:33:42] <Duesentrieb>	http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Duesentrieb/Sandbox
[11:33:50] <Duesentrieb>	i have replaced your class with a style
[11:34:14] <Duesentrieb>	make sure your class is defined right, and do a forced reload - otherwise your browser will use the cached version of the css which might not have your class
[11:34:37] <phrearch>	ah yes
[11:36:05] <phrearch>	it works with a style parameter, but wont with a class
[11:36:13] <phrearch>	although the class works in the header
[11:36:19] <phrearch>	and i did a forced refresh
[11:36:37] <Duesentrieb>	then the second class is simply broken
[11:36:42] <Duesentrieb>	try it on a div outside the table
[11:37:20] <Duesentrieb>	and/or swap which class is applied to what
[11:37:42] <phrearch>	yea, it should be some simple error somewhere. ill look for it tnx
[11:45:53] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30611 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): 
[11:45:53] <CIA-42>	* (bug 12239) Use different separators for autocomments
[11:45:53] <CIA-42>	This avoids confusion if there was some text deleted (which is often marked as "- foobar" by contributors) or a normal comment.
[11:45:53] <CIA-42>	Based on a patch of Danny B
[11:46:08] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PATCH - Linker.php - different separators for autocomments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12239  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[12:12:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  +comment (10huji.huji)
[12:12:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dark CSS format to save energy (button to change) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12918  +comment (10huji.huji)
[12:19:22] <phrearch>	i think i define classes wrong, or maybe classes cannot be defined in a wikipage?
[12:19:57] <phrearch>	what is the syntax for defining a new css class in a wikipage?
[12:20:07] <ialex>	they have to be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css
[12:22:24] <phrearch>	aah ok
[12:22:35] <phrearch>	ill just delete them then :-)
[12:23:37] <phrearch>	are there some monobook styleclasses for row colors?
[12:41:54] <kanzure>	"Could not find a suitable database driver!" <-- I have php-db and php5-mysql installed. What else should I try?
[12:44:30] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) What links here not restrictive enough for templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12933  +comment (10huji.huji)
[13:08:34] <[GW]Spiderpig>	hi?
[13:08:39] <[GW]Spiderpig>	i've a problem with the short url's..
[13:08:46] <Duesentrieb>	!rewriteproblem
[13:08:46] --mwbot--	1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[13:08:48] <[GW]Spiderpig>	can some1 help me?
[13:08:58] <[GW]Spiderpig>	i already tried
[13:09:34] <Duesentrieb>	have you checked all 6 points from above?
[13:09:56] <[GW]Spiderpig>	everthing works. but when wanna edit a page, like:
[13:09:58] <[GW]Spiderpig>	http://www.gamerswiki.nl/index.php?title=Nieuws&action=edit
[13:09:59] <[GW]Spiderpig>	than you're editing Index.php in stead of 'Nieuws'
[13:10:23] <[GW]Spiderpig>	yes i have
[13:10:34] <Duesentrieb>	so you fail at point 3) already (and probably 2). 
[13:11:23] <Duesentrieb>	don't put stuff into the document root. ever. unless you know exactly what you are doing, and are ready to go through some pains to get it to work. and are ok with some things just not working.
[13:11:35] <[GW]Spiderpig>	not in te root?
[13:11:45] <Duesentrieb>	not. in. the. root.
[13:11:53] <[GW]Spiderpig>	k
[13:12:02] <[GW]Spiderpig>	i'm putting it in /wiki/
[13:12:45] <Duesentrieb>	yes, for example. but mind point 4: use one path for the actuial files, and *another* path to map pages to.
[13:15:22] <[GW]Spiderpig>	http://www.gamerswiki.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Nieuws&action=edit
[13:15:24] <[GW]Spiderpig>	hmm, now the style sheet and images aren't loaded. but you're still editing 'Index.php'
[13:16:40] <Duesentrieb>	did you change your rewrite rules? what are you mapping pages to? have you adopted both $wgScriptPath and $wgArticlePath ?
[13:17:14] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30612 10/trunk/extensions/CountEdits/ (CountEdits.i18n.php CountEdits.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[13:17:22] <[GW]Spiderpig>	$wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; #this should already be there
[13:17:24] <[GW]Spiderpig>	$wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1";
[13:17:26] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteEngine On
[13:17:27] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
[13:17:29] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
[13:17:31] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ wiki/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA]
[13:17:33] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA]
[13:17:34] <[GW]Spiderpig>	RewriteRule ^/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA]
[13:17:36] <Duesentrieb>	[GW]Spiderpig: how about this: scrap everything, and follow the instructions on  <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> *exactly*
[13:18:00] <Duesentrieb>	[GW]Spiderpig: and use a pastebin. pasting more than 3 lines into irc is impolite.
[13:18:14] <[GW]Spiderpig>	k
[13:18:26] <Duesentrieb>	you are rewriting /wiki to /wiki... what did i say about using *different* pathes?
[13:18:57] <[GW]Spiderpig>	?
[13:19:08] <[GW]Spiderpig>	don't understand, i'm dutch xD
[13:19:52] <Duesentrieb>	[GW]Spiderpig: you have to have your files in one directory, and then use a *different* "virtual" directory for your "pages".
[13:20:07] <Duesentrieb>	[GW]Spiderpig: again: start fresh, follow the instructions exactly. use the exact pathes in the example.
[13:20:20] *Duesentrieb 	is not in the mood for this.
[13:24:04] <ialex>	[GW]Spiderpig: what did you put for $wgScriptPath ?
[13:24:19] <[GW]Spiderpig>	$wgScriptPath = "/w"; #this should already be there
[13:25:15] <ialex>	and $wgStylePath ?
[13:25:22] <[GW]Spiderpig>	not defined
[13:25:31] <[GW]Spiderpig>	shout i define that?
[13:26:44] <ialex>	no, but doesn't seems to work
[13:27:02] <ialex>	do you use a custom style ?
[13:28:21] <[GW]Spiderpig>	yes
[13:28:48] <[GW]Spiderpig>	wtf, now i'm getting errors :S
[13:31:46] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30613 10/trunk/extensions/DismissableSiteNotice/ (DismissableSiteNotice.i18n.php DismissableSiteNotice.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[13:35:16] <ialex>	seems to work now
[13:36:08] <[GW]Spiderpig>	no
[13:36:12] <[GW]Spiderpig>	i deleted all xD\
[13:36:18] <[GW]Spiderpig>	that sucks xD
[13:36:25] <[GW]Spiderpig>	i'll find out later how that works
[13:36:38] <[GW]Spiderpig>	first gotta find out how dpl works :P
[13:36:39] <ialex>	http://www.gamerswiki.nl/index.php/Nieuws
[13:36:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dark CSS format to save energy (button to change) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12918  (10danny_b)
[13:36:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788  (10danny_b)
[13:37:30] <Dashiva>	Anyone know why the <gallery> tag stretches the image box height +25% when it can't find an image?
[13:37:33] <Danny_B>	Raymond_afk: thx4patch
[13:38:50] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30614 10/trunk/extensions/Duplicator/ (Duplicator.i18n.php Duplicator.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[13:51:38] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30615 10/trunk/extensions/Editcount/ (SpecialEditcount.i18n.php SpecialEditcount.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[13:55:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) What links here not restrictive enough for templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12933  (10N/A)
[14:08:12] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30616 10/trunk/extensions/Eval/ (SpecialEval.i18n.php SpecialEval.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[14:11:56] <phrearch>	is there any way i can control the width of a table cell? (|)
[14:12:24] <phrearch>	 im trying with ! style="width:150px;" | osFunction 
[14:12:33] <phrearch>	that doesnt seem to work though
[14:14:09] <AzaTht>	phrearch: it should work
[14:14:36] <phrearch>	http://opensimulator.org/wiki/LSL_osFunctions
[14:14:55] <phrearch>	i cant control the first column'
[14:14:59] <phrearch>	width with it
[14:15:32] <phrearch>	the table has width 100% assigned to it
[14:25:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10N/A)
[14:27:00] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30617 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/ (Farmer.i18n.php Farmer.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[14:30:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20Afar=20to=20Qaf=C3=A1r=20af?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12937  (10N/A)
[14:36:22] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30618 10/trunk/extensions/CountEdits/CountEdits.i18n.php: Link fix
[14:38:08] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30619 10/trunk/extensions/DismissableSiteNotice/DismissableSiteNotice.i18n.php: Remove dot
[14:39:06] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30620 10/trunk/extensions/ExpandTemplates/ (ExpandTemplates.i18n.php ExpandTemplates.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[14:40:37] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30621 10/trunk/extensions/Duplicator/Duplicator.i18n.php: article -> page
[14:47:41] <PatPeter>	Alo everyone
[14:58:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) actions=raw: templates=expand is ignored if section set. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12938 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (tat.wright)
[15:02:19] <CIA-42>	03yaron * r30622 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_Filter.php: getValuesForProperty() for attributes now has null namespace
[15:05:55] <CIA-42>	03yaron * r30623 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/includes/SD_GlobalFunctions.php: 
[15:05:55] <CIA-42>	Fix for handling 'attributes' for SMW 1.0; added escaping of apostrophes
[15:05:55] <CIA-42>	in category and page names in DB queries
[15:06:16] <CIA-42>	03yaron * r30624 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/INSTALL: New version: 0.3.5
[15:09:30] <CIA-42>	03grondin * r30625 10/trunk/extensions/FindSpam/ (FindSpam.i18n.php FindSpam.php): Add internationalization extension description message in [[Special:Version]]
[15:14:45] <[GW]Spiderpig>	hello
[15:15:54] <[GW]Spiderpig>	can any1 help me with an extension? can't find it on mediawiki site.. an extension like: <quote>text</quote> and <quote name="author">text</quote>
[15:20:09] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30626 10/trunk/extensions/ (9 files in 5 dirs): 
[15:20:09] <CIA-42>	Localisation updates. "descriptionmsg" related changes for:
[15:20:09] <CIA-42>	* AjaxQueryPages
[15:20:09] <CIA-42>	* AjaxShowEditors
[15:20:09] <CIA-42>	* BreadCrumbs
[15:20:10] <CIA-42>	* ContributorsAddon
[15:21:14] <TimLaqua>	[GW]Spiderpig: you mean you want to add citations?
[15:21:28] <[GW]Spiderpig>	yes
[15:21:40] <TimLaqua>	!cite
[15:21:40] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[15:21:52] <Duesentrieb>	but that works a bit differently
[15:22:17] <[GW]Spiderpig>	omg didn't searched on 'cite', only on quote
[15:23:05] <TimLaqua>	[GW]Spiderpig: you want forum type thread quoting?  or you want to cite other sites/articles/authors for attribution?
[15:23:34] <[GW]Spiderpig>	other sites/articles/authors
[15:23:40] <TimLaqua>	k, then it's cite.
[15:23:54] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30627 10/trunk/extensions/FindSpam/FindSpam.i18n.php: remove period
[15:24:38] <Poundo>	I want to build or if it exists, list an array of all groups so I can look for any new groups that have been created I can get it on a user basis $wgUser->getGroups() but what  about program wide?
[15:25:39] <[GW]Spiderpig>	is it possible with that extension to have a cite in a cite?
[15:25:59] <TimLaqua>	dunno
[15:26:15] <TimLaqua>	try on wikipedia
[15:27:33] <queuetue>	Hi.  How do I get a list of the edits for a particular user or IP?
[15:29:09] <[GW]Spiderpig>	oh srry, i didn't mean that kinda cite. i want a quote like on a forum.. i think
[15:31:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Activating "Makepatrol" on Italian Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (wim_c_b)
[15:31:47] <Poundo>	 queuetue: try static  edits  ($uid)    Count the number of edits of a user. 
[15:32:37] <nofxx>	morning....how to change the index (contents) positioning.. put it to the right ? =D
[15:32:53] <queuetue>	Poundo, That's a database table?  (I'm very new to mediawiki.)
[15:34:31] <TimLaqua>	queuetue: Special:Contributions
[15:34:40] <Poundo>	queuetue: yea me to, no it's a member function in the user class. You would have to get the mId for the current user like $wgUser->getId() then pass that into the edit function to get it.
[15:35:47] <queuetue>	TimLaqua, "You have requested an invalid special page" - is that from an extension?
[15:35:55] <TimLaqua>	nope
[15:36:11] <TimLaqua>	Special:Contributions
[15:36:22] <TimLaqua>	what version of MediaWiki?
[15:37:13] <Poundo>	queuetue: are you in the correct groups
[15:37:19] <queuetue>	TimLaqua, 1.5.6 - Contributions does exist, I ust need to figure out how to pass in the User name, I think.
[15:37:30] <flyingparchment>	Special:Contributions/Username
[15:37:35] <queuetue>	Thanks.
[15:38:03] <queuetue>	flyingparchment, TimLaqua Perfect.  Thanks.
[15:38:08] <TimLaqua>	queuetue: are you doing this programatically?
[15:38:52] <queuetue>	TimLaqua, No, I just wanted to monitor edits on my very small private wiki.
[15:39:07] <TimLaqua>	queuetue: RecentChanges sounds like a better solution for that
[15:39:43] <Poundo>	anyone know how I programatically get all groups, builtin and new added ones?
[15:40:42] <TimLaqua>	Poundo: ummm... enumerate $wgGroupPermissions?  Like foreach ($wgGroupPermissions as $group => $permissions) { ...  }
[15:41:43] <[GW]Spiderpig>	TimLaqua: oh srry, i didn't mean that kinda cite. i want a quote like on a forum.. i think
[15:42:18] <TimLaqua>	yeah, i'm not familliar with an extension like that.  though if you're looking to make your Discussion/Talk namespace cleaner, look in to LiquidThreads
[15:44:01] <[GW]Spiderpig>	no, i'm not looking for something like that
[15:46:31] <TimLaqua>	Poundo:  User::getAllGroups()
[15:47:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SIMILE timeline sends too many requests for components - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12590  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:48:00] <Burps>	Hi everyone
[15:48:11] <TimLaqua>	[GW]Spiderpig: you could just use templates
[15:48:36] <Burps>	I'm trying to setup mutliple wiki on the same machine, using SSL : could you point me to an HowTo please ?
[15:49:17] <[GW]Spiderpig>	yeah, that's a good idea ;)
[15:49:19] <[GW]Spiderpig>	thx
[15:49:53] <Duesentrieb>	!farm | Burps
[15:49:53] --mwbot--	Burps: To run multiple wikis, you do not need anything more than to run one wiki. You simply install them in different folders, and if possible using seperate databases. If you only have one database, simply use a different table prefix. For more advanced setups, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family>
[15:50:17] <Duesentrieb>	Burps: not sure how SSL is relevant to this, except that, if you one one subdomain per wiki, you need a cert for each subdomain
[15:50:55] <TimLaqua>	and note, you can't have multiple VirtualHosts on a single IP w/ SSL
[15:52:01] <Duesentrieb>	ah, right
[15:52:13] <TimLaqua>	evil wrapper.  ;-)
[15:53:34] <Burps>	thx
[15:56:37] <Poundo>	TimLaqua: oh ok I didn't relize what was going on. I got the list I expected but was surprised that the only groups listed as available were "Bots,Sysops, Bureaucrats, myNew_GRP" what about developer and emailconfirmed
[15:56:47] <CIA-42>	03tstarling * r30628 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SiteConfiguration.php: Allow a list of tags for settings fallback, in addition to wiki name, suffix and default. Committing for test on server.
[15:57:00] <Poundo>	or any of the other ones listed on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights
[15:57:44] <Poundo>	I assume there is a default seeding of $wgGroupPermissions or something?
[15:57:53] <TimLaqua>	yeah, in DefaultSettings.php
[15:58:15] <TimLaqua>	one sec, lemme look at the getAllGroups func
[15:58:29] <Duesentrieb>	i think there's also a function for collection all groups out of $wgGroupPermissions - SpecialUSerrights would use it, i guess
[15:58:31] <TimLaqua>	where did you get your list from?  User::getAllGroups?
[15:59:00] <TimLaqua>	yeah, that's the getallgroups func (used by userrights) and like getEffectiveGroups
[15:59:29] <Poundo>	TimLaqua: yea I think I did I get from $wgUser->getAllGroups()
[15:59:47] <TimLaqua>	it's static, getAllGroups can be called directly
[16:00:05] <Poundo>	TimLaqua: oh right!
[16:00:39] <TimLaqua>	ah
[16:01:52] <TimLaqua>	poundo, try just: array_keys( $wgGroupPermissions ), and also check User::getImplicitGroups()
[16:02:36] <AtharHameed>	Hello everyone 
[16:02:38] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Configuration directive ($wgDBmwschema) under the PostgreSQL backend is only used while installing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12936  +comment (10yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[16:03:13] <TimLaqua>	Poundo: and the getAllGroups documentation says specifically that it doesn't get the *, user, autoconfirmed, or emailconfirmed groups as they are defined automatically and not in the database
[16:03:27] <AtharHameed>	I am writing an extension which uses some javascript which I have put in a js file in the extension dir. So the path to the js file is $wgScriptPath/extensions/myext/test.js
[16:04:01] <AtharHameed>	When the browser requests for test.js 
[16:04:05] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Configuration directive ($wgDBmwschema) under the PostgreSQL backend is only used while installing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12936  (10yet_another_one_time_use_bugzilla_account)
[16:04:14] <AtharHameed>	Mediawiki redirects to Main_Page and so the js file gives an error 
[16:04:26] <AtharHameed>	Is there a way to fix this ?
[16:04:30] <Burps>	TimLaqua: if I try to setup multiple VH w/ SSL on single IP : will it just tell me "your certif is not OK" because it doesn't fit the hostname, or will it just NOT work
[16:04:40] <Poundo>	TimLaqua: ok man thanks for your time.  This was some really helpful stuff:)
[16:05:25] <TimLaqua>	burps: only one VH.  I believe the last one applied using the SSL engine.
[16:05:36] <TimLaqua>	which means you can only use one certificate
[16:06:00] <TimLaqua>	so *unless* you have a wildcard cert ($$$), subdomains will throw certificate name errors
[16:06:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Recursive checkuser featured needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9858  (10mapellegrini)
[16:06:32] <TimLaqua>	the site name errors seem to be more persistent than the 'untrusted publisher' type warnings
[16:06:59] <TimLaqua>	so, you want to do multiple subdomains over SSL on a single IP - but a wildcard cert
[16:07:09] <TimLaqua>	or, you can get a pile of IPs.  ;-)
[16:07:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Number of wikis in Special:SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12940 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: SiteMatrix; (meno25wiki)
[16:09:08] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Number of wikis in Special:SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12940  +comment (10vasilvv)
[16:09:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Number of wikis in Special:SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12940  (10vasilvv)
[16:11:57] <Burps>	I want SSL so that my password don't go unencrypted on the network, I don't care of official certification (if that's your question...)
[16:12:14] <Burps>	TimLaqua: ^^
[16:12:39] <TimLaqua>	sounds like you'll be fine
[16:17:05] <CIA-42>	03leogregianin * r30630 10/trunk/extensions/RandomInCategory/SpecialRandomincategory.i18n.php: pt translation
[16:23:01] <AtharHameed>	My browser can't reach javascript files in the extensions folder. It get's an http redirect if it tries to. Any ideas?
[16:26:15] <CIA-42>	03leogregianin * r30631 10/trunk/extensions/AutomaticGroups/AutomaticGroups.i18n.php: ptpt translation
[16:29:55] <TimLaqua>	AtharHameed: fix your .htaccess rules
[16:35:22] <Nikerabbit>	does leogregianin irc?
[16:38:07] <AtharHameed>	TimLaqua: http://rafb.net/p/JswcNB94.html
[16:39:00] <TimLaqua>	that's your vh config, look in /home/atharh/wikitest for a file called .htaccess
[16:39:10] <AtharHameed>	oh ok 
[16:39:33] <AtharHameed>	I don't have a .htaccess in there
[16:39:47] <TimLaqua>	is this on linux?
[16:39:50] <AtharHameed>	yep 
[16:40:03] <TimLaqua>	and you're doing ls -a
[16:40:04] <TimLaqua>	?
[16:40:14] <AtharHameed>	yes
[16:40:36] <TimLaqua>	is there a .htaccess file in /extensions
[16:40:37] <TimLaqua>	?
[16:41:15] <AtharHameed>	nopes
[16:41:27] <AtharHameed>	it's pretty weird 
[16:41:35] <AtharHameed>	if i put the file in the skins/common folder
[16:41:41] <AtharHameed>	it's reachable
[16:41:47] <AtharHameed>	but not from the extensions folder 
[16:42:00] <TimLaqua>	but in /extensions, it shows you the main page?
[16:42:30] <AtharHameed>	actually, I can browse /extension 
[16:42:38] <AtharHameed>	but if i do localhost/extensions/test.js
[16:42:44] <AtharHameed>	i get the main page
[16:42:59] <TimLaqua>	but localhost/common/test.js works fine?
[16:43:05] <AtharHameed>	yes
[16:43:17] <AtharHameed>	that works fine localhost/skins/common/test.js
[16:43:43] <TimLaqua>	are you using short urls?
[16:44:03] <AtharHameed>	nothing 
[16:44:13] <AtharHameed>	I have disabled all aliasing and url rewriting 
[16:44:43] <TimLaqua>	then shouldn't you just be getting a 404 or 403?
[16:44:52] <TimLaqua>	like - where's the redirect coming from?
[16:45:01] <AtharHameed>	no clue 
[16:45:16] <AtharHameed>	i am now thinking that it might be coming from the js file itself
[16:45:19] <TimLaqua>	is it public?
[16:45:27] <AtharHameed>	cause I just opened another js file and that worked 
[16:45:46] <TimLaqua>	oh....
[16:46:03] <AtharHameed>	Thanks a lot for your help 
[16:46:50] <TimLaqua>	np
[16:53:33] <CIA-42>	03tstarling * r30632 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SiteConfiguration.php: typo, thanks ialex
[16:58:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Install new upload form for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12941 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (meno25wiki)
[17:00:05] <Nikerabbit>	WTF is bug 12941?
[17:03:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10huji.huji)
[17:05:28] <TimStarling>	Nikerabbit: they want their $wgUploadNavigationUrl set to a wiki page, like how it is on enwiki
[17:05:54] <TimStarling>	the business with the languages is a hack that a lot of wikis are using to make such pages useful
[17:06:15] <TimStarling>	they invent new languages in order to customise the interface text on Special:Upload
[17:06:27] <TimStarling>	then they send the user there with a uselang= parameter
[17:06:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10N/A)
[17:07:27] <Nikerabbit>	TimStarling: I know that
[17:07:42] <Nikerabbit>	TimStarling: but the wtf is the part they start requesting arbitary languages codes to be added
[17:08:30] <TimStarling>	well, the guy obviously doesn't understand the hack
[17:09:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10huji.huji)
[17:09:49] <Nikerabbit>	TimStarling: yeah, and I thougt meno would
[17:10:25] <Nikerabbit>	thought*
[17:14:54] <Pac21>	is there anybody from Italy here?
[17:17:12] <Simetrical>	Danny_B, I'm usually not here at 4 AM, but I'm here now (for a little while).
[17:19:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install new upload form for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12941  +comment (10OsamaK.WFM)
[17:20:18] <Nikerabbit>	Pac21: what do you need?
[17:22:03] <CIA-42>	03rotem * r30633 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update.
[17:24:19] <brion>	morning kids
[17:25:13] <ialex>	hi brion
[17:25:18] <Jack_Phoenix>	hey hey brion :)
[17:25:58] <VasilievVV>	hi brion
[17:26:23] <Skizzerz>	hi brion :)
[17:30:50] <CIA-42>	03dale * r30634 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (11 files in 6 dirs): 
[17:30:50] <CIA-42>	updates for displaying multiple mvd tracks
[17:30:50] <CIA-42>	cmml export buttons
[17:34:27] <VasilievVV|NA>	Damn...
[17:34:41] <VasilievVV|NA>	MS sucks as usually
[17:35:31] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30635 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Localisation updates German
[17:47:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extend context link ("pipe trick") syntax to pages with commas in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6826  +comment (10brion)
[17:51:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Uncategorized categories/pages/templates refactoring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12942 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Eugene.Zelenko)
[17:57:25] <waldir>	hello there. does anyone know if it is possible to hide redirects on special:prefixindex?
[17:59:19] <SPQRobin>	waldir: set  .allpagesredirect { display: none; }  in Monobook.css or Commons.css
[17:59:42] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: it's probably safe to assume that platonides was talking about the toolserver
[17:59:59] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: it's quite separate from the foundation servers
[18:00:10] <Simetrical>	Are the toolservers running Solaris?
[18:00:15] <Simetrical>	hemlock isn't, that I've noticed.
[18:00:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activating "Makepatrol" on Italian Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939  (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[18:00:26] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: all the servers except hemlock are
[18:00:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activating "Makepatrol" on Italian Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12939  (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[18:00:30] <Simetrical>	Interesting.
[18:00:35] <flyingparchment>	(yarrow, zedler, vandale and stable)
[18:01:04] <Simetrical>	Of course, Solaris is mostly free software anyway, and will probably become completely free given some more time.
[18:01:17] <Simetrical>	But if you don't care about that, *shrug*
[18:01:34] <flyingparchment>	well, opensolaris is... the source for what's in solaris 10 wasn't released
[18:01:36] <waldir>	SPQRobin, couldn't there be a url parameter?
[18:01:58] <SPQRobin>	waldir: I don't think so
[18:02:00] <waldir>	and a link "hide redirects" like in the watchlist
[18:02:03] <waldir>	why not?
[18:03:11] <SPQRobin>	I don't know
[18:03:19] <waldir>	???
[18:03:20] <SPQRobin>	it just doesn't exist
[18:03:21] <waldir>	lol
[18:03:27] <waldir>	oh yea i know that :P
[18:03:40] <pjotr5>	hello there, my first time in this chat. i would like to write an extension that shows a list of all articles on the main page. in fact i need the same function that Special:Allpages does. Is there already something like that to start from?
[18:03:46] <waldir>	but it can come to life :P
[18:03:50] <flyingparchment>	pjotr5: {{Special:Allpages}}
[18:04:32] <waldir>	SPQRobin actually there is already a but that probably deals with this, I'm going to read it to check
[18:04:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dark CSS format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12918  summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:04:43] <waldir>	*a bug
[18:05:01] <waldir>	bug 7204
[18:05:25] <waldir>	(hum I thought the bot would convert this into a link...)
[18:05:41] <waldir>	bug:7204
[18:05:47] <waldir>	:\
[18:05:50] <pjotr5>	thanks, flyingparchment, that's even easier :)
[18:05:58] <waldir>	[[bug:7204]]
[18:06:01] <waldir>	damn :P
[18:07:03] <Jack_Phoenix>	!b 7204
[18:07:03] --mwbot--	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7204
[18:07:04] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: i've argued against the free software policy for a long time.  (but i guess this is the wrong place to discuss it ;)
[18:07:49] <waldir>	Jack_Phoenix thanks ^^
[18:08:11] <Jack_Phoenix>	np
[18:09:57] <waldir>	SPQRobin: well I guess all I can do for now is do the css trick while I wait for the feature requested in that bug to be implemented... thanks for the css :)
[18:10:14] <Simetrical>	flyingparchment, well, I've noticed you don't think much of it, yeah.  :)
[18:10:31] <waldir>	oh, and vote for the bug :) I already did ;)
[18:10:56] <SPQRobin>	waldir: I'll vote :D
[18:10:58] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30636 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: +jut
[18:11:02] <waldir>	:D
[18:15:43] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30637 10/trunk/extensions/AutomaticGroups/AutomaticGroups.i18n.php: Revert r30631 because of encoding issues.
[18:35:24] <brion>	good morning again
[18:35:29] <brion>	puter crashed :(
[18:37:02] <VasilievVV>	brion: how is that job opening about Software Developer / IT Support?
[18:39:06] <brion>	VasilievVV: you applying? :)
[18:39:29] <VasilievVV>	alas, no... :)
[18:39:32] <VasilievVV>	* :(
[18:41:34] <VasilievVV>	just waiting for a new developer who will take care of many issues
[18:41:37] *Danny_B 	is trying to teleport some yummy stuff to brion along with mug of coffee
[18:42:06] <brion>	sweet
[18:42:18] <brion>	VasilievVV: :)
[18:42:37] <brion>	well the position remains open for responses for another week or so, then we'll have to do some interviews
[18:42:57] <VasilievVV>	when i become free, i'll try to implement some deletion queue stuff
[18:43:13] <brion>	awwwwesome
[18:43:19] <brion>	you'd be my best friend
[18:43:42] <VasilievVV>	brion: the only problem is that I can't imagine what should be happend to article while it's being deleted
[18:44:18] <brion>	for waiting-to-be-deleted-in-future or for doing-a-lot-of-revisions-right-now ?
[18:45:18] <VasilievVV>	sysop already deleted page, but not all revisions are moved
[18:47:53] <VasilievVV>	And some other sysop wanted to undelete this page while it was in queue...
[18:48:37] <brion>	*nod*
[18:48:45] <brion>	the simplest thing would be to basically just lock the page while it's in progress
[18:49:11] <brion>	one step up might be to allow it to be canceled during, in which case it would stay locked until the already-deleted revs got undeleted
[18:49:22] <VasilievVV>	yay
[18:49:56] <VasilievVV>	Some rogue sysop deleted sandbox and main page, then they're locked till page is deleted :(
[18:50:55] <brion>	>:D
[18:51:14] <brion>	well locked is better than PENIS PENIS PENIS
[18:51:19] <brion>	unless, you know
[18:51:22] <brion>	you like the penis
[18:51:24] <TimLaqua>	you know...
[18:52:20] <brion>	not that there's anything wrong with that
[18:52:23] <brion>	i ain't gonna judge
[18:52:49] <brion>	sometimes an admin and an admin love each other very much
[18:53:12] <TimLaqua>	and they adopt a little baby admin?
[18:53:40] <brion>	:D
[18:54:36] <Danny_B>	is there any blacklist (either in core or extension) to blacklist strings that shouldn't appear on any page?
[18:54:52] <VasilievVV>	btw, ohloh says we have low comment ratio...
[18:54:58] <TimLaqua>	uh oh.
[18:54:59] <brion>	Danny_B: spam regex
[18:55:11] <VasilievVV>	though it's Ohloh's problem, not our :)
[18:55:17] <Danny_B>	brion:  isn't that one only for links?
[18:55:27] <brion>	i think the $wgSpamRegex is for all text
[18:55:33] <Danny_B>	aha
[18:55:45] <Danny_B>	but not configurable via messages, right?
[18:56:25] <Danny_B>	looking for something like usernameblacklist or so
[18:56:43] <Danny_B>	so admins can modify it on the run
[18:56:47] <VasilievVV>	You can write trivial extension
[18:56:58] <VasilievVV>	Using EditFilter hook
[18:57:35] *Danny_B 	is more front-end coder than back-end
[18:58:01] *VasilievVV 	is everything-coder (expect parser, of course :)
[18:58:28] <Danny_B>	anyway, it would be nice if we had such blacklist/filter on wmf wikis
[18:58:37] <TimLaqua>	why doesn't the MW parser have a nickname?  like "todd"
[18:58:44] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30638 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (42 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-02-06 19:31 CET)
[18:58:50] <brion>	Danny_B: agreed
[18:59:16] <brion>	TimLaqua: it has many nicknames, but you can't say them in polite company
[18:59:36] <Danny_B>	omg, i think i'm going to buy some champagne. the head dev agreed with me ;-)
[18:59:51] <TimLaqua>	;-)
[19:00:07] <VasilievVV>	btw, i still didn't find your project on image backend rewriting... :(
[19:02:49] <VasilievVV>	ok, gotta go
[19:04:42] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30639 10/trunk/extensions/ (71 files in 71 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-02-06 19:31 CET)
[19:05:03] <MinuteElectron>	I swear, I just did an svn up.
[19:05:43] <MinuteElectron>	=P
[19:15:28] <CIA-42>	03brion * r30641 10/trunk/wap/ (84 files in 17 dirs): Fix encodings, line endings, stray BOMs, stray executable bits, mime types.
[19:21:31] <calmond>	SOS - changed operating system (linux) datetime using ntpd udpate to correct it - system time was off by +18 hrs - now MW system edits are not visible after saving pages
[19:22:04] <calmond>	edits persist - reopening edited pages show changes made, but changes are not visible in page after save, and history is not updated
[19:22:19] <calmond>	new pages have no problems
[19:23:05] <brion>	calmond: hmm.... try clearing a) objectcache table in the wiki and b) client's web cache
[19:23:21] <calmond>	newbie - howto clear object cache?
[19:24:06] <brion>	truncate table objectcache; <- usually does it
[19:24:35] <calmond>	is there a tools php file that will do this?
[19:25:59] <calmond>	I did a apache restart if that helps
[19:28:11] <brion>	go in mysql command-line or phpmysql or sth
[19:28:41] <calmond>	I'm at the mysql prompt  "mysql> truncate table objectcache" is correct?
[19:29:01] <ialex>	with a ";" at the end
[19:29:30] <calmond>	ok "mysql> truncate table objectcache;"
[19:30:35] <brion>	yep
[19:30:54] <calmond>	does it matter if apache is running?
[19:33:32] <CIA-42>	03brion * r30642 10/trunk/wap/lang/ (12 files in 12 dirs): Update foundation phone and address
[19:34:02] <ialex>	calmond: no
[19:34:31] <calmond>	brion:ialex - ok thanks - doing it now
[19:35:32] *AaronSchulz 	scrolls down from all the penis talk
[19:35:48] <calmond>	brion:ialex - like i said I'm a newbie...  mysql> truncate table objectcache;
[19:35:48] <calmond>	ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected
[19:35:54] <whiles>	how can I increase the max "limit" parameter to index.php? (standard maximum value is 5'000) 
[19:36:29] <ialex>	calmond: do "\u (database name)" 
[19:36:44] <ialex>	replace (database name) by the database name ;)
[19:37:14] <whiles>	I want to increase it to 12'000...
[19:39:21] <ialex>	whiles: it is in includes/WebRequest.php about line 490
[19:40:01] <calmond>	ialex: i don't know what the name of the database is
[19:40:48] <ialex>	calmond: it is in LocalSettings.php
[19:41:21] <calmond>	ialex - ok - getting it
[19:42:05] <whiles>	thank you very much ialex :)
[19:42:58] <whiles>	in WebRequest.php there is a variable that contains the current username ?
[19:43:36] <calmond>	ialex: $wgDBname = "wikidb"
[19:43:40] <whiles>	$_SESSION['Username'] maybe... i don't know
[19:43:56] <ialex>	calmond: so try \u wikidb
[19:44:31] <ialex>	whiles: $wgUser->getName();
[19:45:16] <whiles>	thank you again :)
[19:48:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) show warning when filesize to big of uploaded file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12943 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (thomas.coopman)
[19:49:57] <calmond>	mysql> \u wikidb
[19:49:57] <calmond>	Reading table information for completion of table and column names
[19:49:57] <calmond>	You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A
[19:49:57] <calmond>	Database changed
[19:50:14] <calmond>	ialex - what you expected?
[19:50:27] <ialex>	calmond: exactely this
[19:50:42] <calmond>	ialex: do I still need to do the truncate?
[19:50:48] <ialex>	calmond: yes
[19:51:25] <calmond>	ialex: do I need to connect to wikidb first?
[19:51:56] <ialex>	calmond: it is what you just did with with \u wikidb
[19:52:19] <calmond>	ialex: :-)
[19:53:33] <calmond>	ialex:  mysql> truncate table objectcache;
[19:53:33] <calmond>	ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'wikidb.objectcache' doesn't exist
[19:54:28] <ialex>	calmond: what did you set for $wgDBprefix ?
[19:54:56] <calmond>	ialex: I've got it
[19:55:07] <calmond>	from show tables;
[19:55:20] <MinuteElectron>	What does "Only variables should be passed by reference in <file> on line 110" mean where line 110 is "$plate = new Article( Title::newFromURL( $wgRequest->getVal( 'boilerplate' ) ) );"?
[19:55:57] <calmond>	ialex: mysql> truncate table bw_objectcache;
[19:55:57] <calmond>	Query OK, 5090 rows affected (0.45 sec)
[19:56:17] <Nikerabbit>	MinuteElectron: that you are passing something other than a variable as a reference
[19:56:31] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: as a reference to what?
[19:56:36] <Nikerabbit>	Articly constructor takes a Title reference
[19:56:43] <MinuteElectron>	oh, right
[19:56:52] <MinuteElectron>	so i should create the title in a sperate variable first
[19:56:59] <Nikerabbit>	I guess so
[19:57:14] <Nikerabbit>	php can be braindead at times
[19:57:20] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[19:57:40] <MinuteElectron>	Yeah, seams to fix the strict error.
[19:58:29] <Duesentrieb>	or just fix the constructor
[19:58:48] <Duesentrieb>	explicitly declaring pass-by-reference for objects is deprecated/redundant
[19:58:57] <Nikerabbit>	-        function __construct( &$title, $oldId = null ) {
[19:59:04] <Nikerabbit>	+        function __construct( Title $title, $oldId = null ) {
[19:59:06] <Duesentrieb>	just remove the &
[19:59:10] <Duesentrieb>	indeed
[19:59:19] <Duesentrieb>	wow, type hinting.
[19:59:24] <MinuteElectron>	Nikerabbit: would you like to commit, or shall I?
[19:59:35] <Duesentrieb>	you gonna tell me php is going to become a decent programming language?
[19:59:44] <MinuteElectron>	lol
[19:59:50] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: not really, it only works for objects, since 5.0 or something
[19:59:57] <Nikerabbit>	in 5.1 they added Array too
[20:00:27] <Duesentrieb>	woot. or something. only about 15 years after everyone else found out that typed üparameters are a good idea.
[20:01:05] <Nikerabbit>	why is type hinting under classes and objects and not under functions
[20:01:33] <Nikerabbit>	”Type Hints can only be of the object and array  (since PHP 5.1) type. Traditional type hinting with int and string isn't supported.”
[20:01:53] <Nikerabbit>	MinuteElectron: feel free
[20:02:04] <MinuteElectron>	Thanks
[20:04:34] <calmond>	ialex/brion: thank you for the support - looks like clearing the objectcache in the table did the  job
[20:04:55] <brion>	great :D
[20:07:00] <CIA-42>	03minuteelectron * r30643 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: 
[20:07:00] <CIA-42>	Alter constructor of Article object to no longer pass-by-reference, and instead
[20:07:00] <CIA-42>	use type hinting. This allows Title objects to be passed to the Article object
[20:07:00] <CIA-42>	as a construction parameter without first placing them in a variable, thus
[20:07:00] <CIA-42>	avoiding E_STRICT level errors.
[20:08:48] <CIA-42>	03brion * r30644 10/trunk/wap/lang/pt/about_text.php: Restore the translation update that was reverted in r30640 while I was in the middle of correcting the encoding, BOM, and line endings.
[20:23:44] <CIA-42>	03minuteelectron * r30645 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[20:23:44] <CIA-42>	Updates to MultiBoilerplate extension:
[20:23:44] <CIA-42>	 * It is now (optionally) possible to specify boilerplates in a MediaWiki namespace message instead of a LocalSettings.php configuration variable.
[20:23:44] <CIA-42>	 * The extension now uses descriptionmsg (allowing description internationalisation).
[20:23:44] <CIA-42>	 * Part of the code that used direct database interfacing to check for article existence has been replaced with a call to the $wgTitle global.
[20:23:49] <CIA-42>	 * The $wgMultiBoilerplateThings global has been renamed to $wgMultiBoilerplateOptions for a greater level of self-explanation.
[20:23:52] <CIA-42>	 * The boilerplate selection box is no longer displayed if there are no options.
[20:30:08] <jlhenry>	An idea of the source of the problem?
[20:30:09] <jlhenry>	depuis la fonction « MathRenderer::_recall ». MySQL a renvoyé l’erreur « 1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_swedish_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (127.0.0.1) ».
[20:30:25] <jlhenry>	I'm trying to enable TeX support
[20:33:07] <brion>	jlhenry: you've got a slightly borked database, looks like
[20:33:41] <jlhenry>	brion: yep... should work on that before... ;)
[20:34:03] <jlhenry>	brion, thanks for the reminder ;)
[20:36:10] <jlhenry>	Is there anything else in order to activate Interwiki (for languages) than inserting data in interwiki table?
[20:37:15] <jlhenry>	I've inserted few lines like this:
[20:37:19] <jlhenry>	| fr           | http://fr.ekopedia.org/$1            |        1 |        0 | 
[20:38:05] <jlhenry>	but it's not working when I do insert [[fr:]]
[20:39:01] <jlhenry>	source: http://it.ekopedia.org/Pagina_principale&action=purge
[20:39:49] <jlhenry>	I've used Special:Interwiki and last MW version
[20:40:13] <CIA-42>	03nikerabbit * r30646 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (README SpecialMagic.php Translate.i18n.php Translate.php): 
[20:40:13] <CIA-42>	* Possibility to add comments when editing with Special:magic
[20:40:13] <CIA-42>	* Released version 8.0
[20:40:56] <jlhenry>	I know now!! 
[20:41:16] <Zach>	can users have a Special:Mypage/common.js/css ?
[20:42:06] <Jack_Phoenix>	Zach: if $wgAllowUserCss and $wgAllowUserJs have been set to true in LocalSettings.php, yes
[20:42:26] <Jack_Phoenix>	sorry, I misread your question
[20:42:32] <Zach>	so i should ignore the message that says "There is no skin "common".
[20:42:45] <Jack_Phoenix>	user-specific common.js / css has not yet been implemented
[20:42:52] <Jack_Phoenix>	there's a bug about this in bugzilla iirc
[20:43:08] <ialex>	jlhenry: do you use a cache ?
[20:43:40] <SPQRobin>	jlhenry: edit that page and it should work
[20:44:36] <jlhenry>	yep but I've tried with other languages where this is already activated and it's working. I mean, I have fr, en, eo project working properly since long time and I'm adding it
[20:45:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install new upload form for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12941  +comment (10jeluf)
[20:46:24] <jlhenry>	I add interwiki links to "it" on fr, eo, en and base (like commons) and it works great. But I've added interwiki links on "it" to fr, en, eo and base and it's not
[20:47:14] <jlhenry>	SPQRobin, sorry it's not
[20:47:34] <jlhenry>	Log: http://it.ekopedia.org/Speciale:Registri/interwiki
[20:48:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hook to alter upload form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8867  +comment (10seventowers)
[20:48:18] <SPQRobin>	hmm
[20:48:39] <jlhenry>	IT WAS CACHE!!!
[20:49:24] <jlhenry>	thanks!
[20:49:27] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30647 10/trunk/extensions/MultiBoilerplate/MultiBoilerplate.i18n.php: remove period
[20:49:33] <SPQRobin>	jlhenry: I edited it, it works now
[20:50:14] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Install new upload form for Arabic (ar) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12941  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:50:17] <SPQRobin>	jlhenry: very strange, now it doesn't work anymore. probably caching
[20:50:37] <jlhenry>	yep; I'm trying a purge 
[20:51:40] <jlhenry>	Thanks!!!
[20:57:43] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30648 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesSv.php: 
[20:57:43] <CIA-42>	Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki
[20:57:43] <CIA-42>	* sv specialPageAliases updated
[20:57:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Return to" item doesn't retain contextual parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13  (10minuteelectron)
[20:57:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Return to" item doesn't retain contextual parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13  (10minuteelectron)
[21:01:49] <CIA-42>	03siebrand * r30649 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesFi.php MessagesNl.php): 
[21:01:49] <CIA-42>	Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki
[21:01:49] <CIA-42>	* fi, nl specialPageAliases updated
[21:04:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Filter categorymembers by timestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12944 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Bryan.TongMinh)
[21:04:53] <MinuteElectron>	In Parser.php on line 3666 what is "  ' (' . date( 'T' ) . ')';" meant to do - 'T' is not a valid timezone and generates a PHP strict error.
[21:06:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) simultaneous page move revert bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3231  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[21:06:35] <MinuteElectron>	wait
[21:06:40] <MinuteElectron>	that has nothing to do with timezone
[21:06:41] <MinuteElectron>	huh
[21:06:43] <MinuteElectron>	:S
[21:15:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Stored cookie displays search page not index.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7681  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[21:20:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Separate group for ipblock-exempt on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9862  +comment (10agkwiki)
[21:21:06] <bcrosby>	is there a way to get importDump.php to overwrite existing articles?
[21:23:16] <Duesentrieb>	bcrosby: you could try to force a revision date in the xml. not sure if it would work, but i think it should.
[21:23:28] <Duesentrieb>	because it doesn't really improt pages. it imports revisions.
[21:23:42] <bcrosby>	right. so that means the "old" version will be available as well
[21:23:57] <foxlit>	Job queue size can sometimes exceed the number of articles on a wiki -- the situation can for example be caused by repeatedly editing a commonly used template. As far as I can tell, once the job queue regenerates a page, it only clears one job queue request
[21:24:32] <foxlit>	Is that intended?
[21:24:59] <Duesentrieb>	foxlit: but subsequent requests for the same page should cause no load, because the are recongized as "stale" upon execution. at least that's how i understood this.
[21:25:42] <Duesentrieb>	bcrosby: a switch to force the imported revision to the date of "now" would be nice i guess - but only makes sense when importing only one revision per page.
[21:25:59] <foxlit>	Just throttle mechanism annoyance, then
[21:26:00] <bcrosby>	yeah
[21:26:09] <bcrosby>	I think I will just delete all the articles and start fresh
[21:26:12] <foxlit>	Since I'm guessing a stale page still uses up the allocated "execute job queue" time
[21:26:14] <bcrosby>	since there is only about 2000 or so
[21:28:17] <bcrosby>	so my next question is.. is there a quick way to delete all articles? ;)
[21:29:03] <bcrosby>	hmm.. there is a deleteBatch.php
[21:32:02] <bcrosby>	Duesentrieb: thanks for your help
[21:37:32] <SudoKing>	My mediawiki installation makes URLs appear like http://localhost/index.php/Main_Page .. how can I change it to be http://localhost/Main_Page ?
[21:38:36] <bcrosby>	oh awesome.. deleteBatch.php doesn't even do anything
[21:38:43] <SudoKing>	?
[21:40:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Please install Extension:SubPageList2 on Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12923  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:42:21] <bcrosby>	oh whoops.. the queue length is 6,878.. guess I have to wait for that to be 0 to see the deleted page?
[21:42:37] <Sudo|Hidden>	>
[21:45:17] *Sudo|Hidden 	is now away - Reason: Gone away for now.
[21:47:20] <brion>	bcrosby: deleteBatch should work fine. can you describe in what way it fails to do things?
[21:48:56] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (edwardzyang)
[21:49:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Set transwiki source for srwikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12916  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:50:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  04CRIT->normal; +comment (10brion)
[21:51:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Letting blocked users edit their talk page on Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12914  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:51:52] <bcrosby>	brion: the article isn't deleted
[21:51:59] <bcrosby>	there is no error from deleteBatch
[21:52:04] <brion>	bcrosby: show me your sample input
[21:53:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  (10edwardzyang)
[21:55:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Import sources on el.wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12893  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:55:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dark CSS format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12918  (10huji.huji)
[21:56:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Transwiki import from sv.wikipedia to sv.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12868  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:57:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  (10brion)
[22:00:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Please allow imports from ptwp to dewp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12864  +comment (10jeluf)
[22:01:28] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  +comment (10edwardzyang)
[22:01:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) getUnusedPropertiesSpecial has serious performance problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12946 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (hsolbrig)
[22:05:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Filter categorymembers by timestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12944  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[22:07:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Import sources on el.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12812  (10jeluf)
[22:08:31] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Please install Extension:SubPageList2 on Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12923  (10jeluf)
[22:08:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[22:10:17] <[GW]Spiderpig>	!hi all
[22:10:17] --mwbot--	Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >
[22:12:21] <[GW]Spiderpig>	can some1 help me on msn with rewriting my wiki? domain.com/Title won't work. but i want a lot more.. like: domain.com/Title/action/edit, ect..: domain.com/Special/Page
[22:13:33] <[GW]Spiderpig>	?
[22:13:39] <[GW]Spiderpig>	!beep
[22:13:39] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "beep".
[22:14:16] <MrZ-man>	!shorturl
[22:14:16] --mwbot--	To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[22:14:57] <[GW]Spiderpig>	yeah, i've done that things thousend times..
[22:25:35] <TimLaqua>	[GW]Spiderpig: t_laqua@hotmail.com - i've only got 10 minutes or so
[22:31:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Request for Page namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12877  +comment (10jeluf)
[22:33:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSRF for anonymous page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12945  (10brion)
[22:33:49] <t0lk>	i'd like to incert a google custom search but I need mediawiki to accept <script> tags, how do I do that?
[22:35:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Set wgUploadNavigationUrl for Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12831  +comment (10jeluf)
[22:38:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10N/A)
[22:39:42] <CIA-42>	03thomasv * r30650 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.i18n.php: namespace recently created at sl.ws
[22:40:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Blockip form doesn't update block log below - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12917  (10N/A)
[22:41:21] <LordAnubis>	Hi there, i need some mediawiki expert to tell me how i can get the "stripped" versions of the wikipedia articles (wut command should I add to the URL?)
[22:42:36] <MrZ-man>	try action=raw or action=render, depending on what you need
[22:42:48] <LordAnubis>	aha. let me see
[22:43:13] <LordAnubis>	raw doesnt work
[22:43:46] <LordAnubis>	I prefer something slightly better than "printable=Yes" 
[22:43:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Internal wiki setup problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12947 major; high; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (FT2.wiki)
[22:43:55] <MrZ-man>	render might work
[22:44:02] <MrZ-man>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=render
[22:44:20] <LordAnubis>	MrZ-man, wut about the links in it. is there a way to make them all take the same "suffix command" ?
[22:44:44] <MrZ-man>	not though the URL
[22:45:34] <LordAnubis>	ok. i see. 
[22:48:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Internal wiki setup problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12947   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[23:04:27] <TimLaqua>	exit
[23:04:35] <TimLaqua>	oop.  ;-)
[23:13:08] <kibble>	why isn't the first part of something like MediaWiki:Sidebar not translated?
[23:13:34] <kibble>	for example, why does http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar use planet-url instead of planet-url/ru ?
[23:14:20] <Skizzerz>	because planet-url is translated on each individual project?
[23:14:51] <kibble>	hmm?
[23:15:43] <SPQRobin>	kibble: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg has to be set for that
[23:16:06] <SPQRobin>	like they did for Commons
[23:16:12] <kibble>	ahh, I see
[23:21:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) someone changed the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12948 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (cajunone)
[23:23:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) someone changed the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12948  +comment (10skizzerz)
[23:24:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make technical updates to srwiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12949 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (dungodung)
[23:25:46] <CIA-42>	03simetrical * r30651 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/monobook/main.css): (bug 12857) Patrol link on new pages should clear floats
[23:26:47] <CIA-42>	03simetrical * r30652 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: And $wgStyleVersion.
[23:27:01] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PATCH - skins/monobook/main.css - patrollink clear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12857  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:30:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Return to" item doesn't retain contextual parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:33:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) A test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12950 minor; normal; MediaWiki: API; (bchiappe)
[23:33:43] <Skizzerz>	*sigh*
[23:33:55] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) A test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12950  (10overlordq)
[23:34:56] <OverlordQ>	that's up there with the previous bug on somebody reporting vandalismto bugzilla lol
[23:35:08] <Skizzerz>	yeah :P
[23:36:33] <Skizzerz>	Next up: Someone reporting that gas prices are high to bugzilla
[23:37:39] *OverlordQ 	goes to open bug
[23:37:42] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30653 10/trunk/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/ (SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.i18n.php SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.php): Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version
[23:41:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Separate group for ipblock-exempt on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9862  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:49:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dark CSS format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12918  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:52:04] <illmasterc>	anyone know where there are query string parameters on the inclusion of js files?
[23:52:22] <CIA-42>	03raymond * r30654 10/trunk/extensions/Quiz/ (Quiz.i18n.php Quiz.php): Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version
[23:52:41] <illmasterc>	hence <script type="text/javascript" src ="path to skins/common/wikibits.js?97">
[23:56:28] <Xerol>	is it better to upgrade incrementally or all at once?
[23:58:06] <Xerol>	we've been stuck at 1.6.5 because our host didn't upgrade to php5 until last month (and didn't tell anyone when they did)