[00:00:36] 03(NEW) AdvancedRandom does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12964 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: AdvancedRandom; (lejonel) [00:14:16] 03(NEW) Remove Special:Gadgets from wikis without Extension: Gadgets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12965 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (meno25wiki) [00:16:59] 03(mod) allow per-page exceptions to spam blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12963 (10meno25wiki) [00:18:56] 03(mod) Special: Protectedtitles should be sortable by protection level like Special: Protectedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12961 (10meno25wiki) [00:19:49] If {{#if: | }} is showing on the page text, on something that was on on another wiki.. Is there an addon missing from MW? ie something to deal with the parser functions? [00:20:08] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions [00:20:09] Reedy_Boy: yes, they are more than likely missing the ParserFunctions extension [00:20:10] presumably? [00:20:24] uh, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions [00:22:04] thanks [00:24:51] 03(mod) New-messages bar not coming up and/ or getting stuck up for IP addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 (10meno25wiki) [00:26:09] 03(mod) Internationalization of the CheckUser log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11513 (10meno25wiki) [00:33:29] Anyone miss me? [00:33:58] *Sasoriza didn't think so [00:34:32] 03(mod) Installing DeletedContributions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10464 (10meno25wiki) [00:34:42] Are there any known problems with using Wikipedia's collapsible tables, div and navframes in 1.11? [00:35:19] 03(mod) Special page to list deleted contributions of a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699 (10meno25wiki) [00:35:21] not if you set up the css and js code that they use [00:36:43] Yeah, I did that. Oh well, guess I'll have to track it down. [00:37:46] 03(mod) Setup new groups in no.wikipedia and access to Special: Userrights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11509 (10meno25wiki) [00:39:42] Hey Duesentrieb. I still want to see that web interface. :) [00:40:16] Sasoriza: uh? web interface for what? [00:40:28] Duesentrieb: everything [00:40:38] oh, yea! [00:41:01] Hi. I'm running mediawiki version 1.10.0. Will the compressOld.php in the maintenance folder work on my version? [00:42:13] station: it has been around for a long time, so i would say yes. but it might erequire additional setup, i donÄt actually know how it works. [00:42:27] that stuff is a bit arcane... i don't even know who knows it :) [00:43:10] Thanks. I'm also wondering how to remove deleted pages from the database permanently... anyone know how? [00:44:54] station: If you have db access.... [00:45:02] I do. [00:45:21] you can track 'em down and remove 'em there [00:46:09] Any tips? Where is the flag that marks pages as deleted? I assume that it's safe to just delete the pages the. [00:46:44] 14(INVALID) Remove Special:Gadgets from wikis without Extension:Gadgets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12965 +comment (10cbrown1023) [00:50:19] station: If you use phpMyAdmin, mw_logging, log_deleted [00:53:16] Oh wait, no, that just removes them from the deletion log [01:02:31] Ive done three installations of wiki today they all have blue links for an image when they should be red. Has anyone experienced this? [01:02:53] on 1.11.1 [01:04:31] Note for the developers, the localsettings.php generated by a fresh install does not have the closing php tag. [01:05:02] i think that's intended [01:05:11] ok [01:05:28] i saw it on all the others so thought it was an error [01:05:46] someone got fed up of answering here to ppl that inserted customizations at the end, right after that :) [01:06:07] So are blue links on images intended in the new 1.11.1 [01:06:39] thats funny [01:07:07] dont' think so [01:07:22] its one thing after another [01:07:34] but I love mediawiki dont get me wrong [01:07:47] nothing compairs [01:08:57] no offense taken :) [01:09:14] gn [01:10:24] blue img lks... that's a new one on me [01:10:43] yes where no image is in the wiki. [01:10:58] Later [01:12:29] station: Figure it out yet? [01:15:31] I found this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialDeleteOldRevisions [01:16:00] I don't get it though. I used it and it said I was removing almost 1000 archived articles. But my database is the same size! [01:20:33] i have a mediawiki question [01:20:50] i am a novice [01:21:09] i want to make it so that no content is visible without logging in, any ideas on how to do that? [01:22:56] sug: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [01:23:47] 03(NEW) Setup.php uses echo() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12966 trivial; lowest; MediaWiki: Installation; (oysterguitarist) [01:24:18] thanks splarka - i'll check that out [01:28:51] hello [01:29:13] damn, this SpecialDeleteOldRevisions plugin doesn't let me delete archived articles without deleting old revisions too [01:29:36] is there some tool or program to make it easier to take a screenshot, crop the screenshot to the relevant size/section and then upload it to a page in mediawiki? [01:31:44] station: the text is stored in the revisions, what good is deleting just the article (which is basically a list of revisions) [01:44:27] what i mean is, I only want to delete archived (deleted) articles, and their old revisions. I don't want to delete the old revisions of live articles. The script makes me choose a date, and it will delete old revisions from that date backwards for live articles and deleted ones. [01:50:59] splarka - i changed $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read'] = false; to control it so that only users can see content... i also changed $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createaccount'] = false; so that people can't make an account, but this also took away the login screen, how can i get the login ability back? [01:51:04] does that make sense Splarka ? [01:54:56] hmm [01:55:02] make sure your login screen is whitelisted [01:55:11] (should be by default though) [01:58:19] 03(mod) Provide a list of predefined reasons in the protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10799 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [01:59:17] this php is not easy to parse, damn [01:59:48] 03(FIXED) Internal wiki setup problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12947 +comment (10tstarling) [01:59:51] 03(mod) CheckUser installation for MediaWiki 1.12 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12959 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:01:02] AaronSchulz: personally, i could never get CheckUser to work because of the command line requirement [02:01:24] heh [02:04:41] I just imported the tables with phpmyadmin [02:06:22] how do i make sure that my login screen is whitelisted? [02:08:00] !wg WhitelistRead | sug [02:08:00] --mwbot-- sug: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgWhitelistRead [02:26:17] this damn script [02:26:28] *station screams [02:37:06] hello? [02:38:20] *jay2d2 slaps zocky around a bit with a large trout [02:56:01] zocky: one of your fans? or one of your fins? [03:27:25] In my wiki, I am trying to create a group of users that have access to only one section (and it's children pages) - can anyone guide me to the proper section of the documentation? [03:30:57] sug27, you should start with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions [03:32:22] unless you mean, the group of users have *less* access than the default, in which case you can set $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read'] = false; and then whitelist a small set of pages via http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgWhitelistRead [03:32:47] Was there any way to detect article undeletion from within an extension before the ArticleUndelete hook was introduced? [03:34:05] Are any other hooks fired off? (e.g. ArticleSave?) [03:36:29] sug27: your next stop (if you mean, a set of pages that only, say, sysops have access to), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions but you're better off making a separate wiki in most cases [03:37:12] as well as http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [03:41:50] !man $wgLogo [03:41:50] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo [03:42:04] how do you change the logo in the top left of a wikimedia install? [03:42:28] !man $wgLogo [03:42:28] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo [03:42:29] :) [03:42:36] lol [03:43:02] pathos: they have a pill to help you with that now [03:43:14] is that in some config file somewhere? [03:43:22] so its not something i can change from the wiki it's self [03:43:29] nslater: !localsettings [03:43:33] ... [03:43:35] !localsettings [03:43:35] --mwbot-- All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , [03:43:44] if you only have access to the wiki, you could set it with css [03:43:46] Splarka: :P [03:43:58] Splarka: how would i change the css? [03:44:00] You need it. [03:44:08] btw, wouldn't "!wg Logo" be less keystrokes than !man $wgLogo ? [03:44:08] Lies. [03:44:12] well you can change it from the wiki itself, if you have the Logo extension [03:44:34] nslater: your default skin monobook? [03:44:34] but being an old extension it is kinda quirky [03:44:40] Splarka: Yep. [03:44:49] this is the uri: http://www.couchdbwiki.com/i [03:44:52] ignore the i [03:44:54] how do i log in as sysop? [03:44:58] i only have admin user access [03:45:06] 03tlaqua * r30687 10/trunk/extensions/UserMerge/ (UserMerge.i18n.php UserMerge.php UserMerge_body.php): [03:45:06] * Making unmergable user ID(s) configurable rather than assuming ID 1 (on recommendation from Simetrical) [03:45:06] * Now allows defining unmergable users by ID or user_name [03:45:06] * To disable merge blocking, set $wgUserMergeUnmergeable = array(); [03:45:28] nslater: okay, one sec [03:46:01] upload an image smaller than about 160x160, png with alpha transparency is good... [03:46:34] okay... [03:46:36] and then in MediaWiki:Monobook.css [03:46:37] #p-logo a { background-image: url("LOCATION") !important; } [03:46:45] is that a uri? [03:46:49] where LOCATION is the file location of the image [03:46:58] which can be full, absolute, or local [03:47:00] aha [03:47:03] yes.. [03:47:05] i see now [03:47:06] nice one [03:47:11] thanks! [03:47:13] let me try this... [03:47:23] eg "/images/b/bc/Wiki.png" [03:47:32] or "http://www.google.com/someimage.gif" [03:47:57] lame way to do it though, better to request the logo extension (so you can upload to Wiki.png) or set it in LocalSettings [03:49:06] woah.. http://www.couchdbwiki.com/ [03:49:10] i brokened it ;) [03:49:13] HappyDog: looks like before http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=19441 there were no hooks at all in Special:Undelete [03:49:58] HappyDog: oop, there was one, 'UndeleteShowRevision' [03:50:46] nslater: 171x151 is a bit big [03:50:50] heh [03:50:52] working on it [03:51:54] btw: you can use per-page body classes to put a different logo on different namespaces, different page names, etc [03:52:05] that work for you, Simetrical? ;-) [03:52:19] body.page-Main_Page #p-logo a {} [03:52:26] (Uncyclopedia has fun with that) [03:55:08] okay, sorted, thanks [03:57:00] /part/part [03:57:02] doh [04:05:31] Splarka: Yeah that was in 1.9.0 (ArticleUndelete was in 1.9.1) [04:05:48] I've had a poke through the code and it looks like there's nothing there that I can use. [04:05:52] Unless... [04:06:54] ...would it be possible to somehow get the output of the Special:Undelete page (and it's post args) and use that to perform the undelete...? [04:07:00] 03shinjiman * r30688 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [04:07:00] * Update Chinese translations [04:07:00] * Update Cantonese translations [04:07:00] * Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [04:07:00] * Re-adding Chinese fallbacks for the extension messages [04:11:45] 03shinjiman * r30689 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesYue.php MessagesZh_classical.php): better wording for the Cantonese and Old Time Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations [04:34:38] 03tstarling * r30690 10/trunk/debs/squid/debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs): X-Vary-Options feature. Will submit it to squid-dev for review shortly. [04:36:34] how do i change the content of the navigation box on the left? [04:37:13] !sidebar [04:37:13] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [04:42:16] 03(NEW) Upload directory not writable on internal wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12967 normal; high; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (FT2.wiki) [04:46:24] 03(mod) Sidebar displaced when creating user talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12954 (10N/A) [04:51:02] 03(mod) Setup.php uses echo() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12966 (10N/A) [04:53:16] when trying to import into mediawiki I get 'Unknown import source type' [04:53:25] where can I find omre information about that error and how to correct it? [04:59:35] or perhaps provide a way t odebug it? [05:01:08] 03(mod) Setup.php uses echo() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12966 (10N/A) [05:02:46] !debug | mmcgrath [05:02:46] --mwbot-- mmcgrath: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [05:50:09] Splarka: I have managed to hook the SpecialPageExecuteAfterPage hook in order to spoof the ArticleUndelete hook (or at least, the bits of it I need)! [06:32:09] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10octahedron80) [06:32:53] 03raymond * r30691 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/ (README UsernameBlacklist.i18n.php UsernameBlacklist.php): [06:32:53] * Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version [06:32:53] * Kill whitespaces [06:33:46] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10octahedron80) [06:59:35] 03(NEW) Render redirect wikilinks in a redirect class for customization via user/ site CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12968 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Winbots) [07:12:51] 03tstarling * r30692 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (OutputHandler.php OutputPage.php): Add an X-Vary-Options header, as per my proposed squid patch [07:16:09] <_wooz> lo [07:35:52] Anyone know of a simple forum? I've looked at phpBB but is overkill for my site... [08:00:44] 03raymond * r30693 10/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ (ImageMap.i18n.php ImageMap.php): Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version [08:38:58] 03raymond * r30694 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.i18n.php OggHandler.php): Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version [08:52:16] 03raymond * r30695 10/trunk/extensions/Newuserlog/ (Newuserlog.i18n.php Newuserlog.php): Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version [08:57:32] *Splarka calls for the head of AaronSchulz [09:05:19] 03tstarling * r30696 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/SpecialCite_body.php: Fix fatal on null title error due to type hinting in Article::__construct() [09:13:10] AaronSchulz: try saving a non-existant image on test.wp [09:13:27] [[Image:Foo.bar|100px]] [09:13:37] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function getTimestamp() on a non-object in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.5/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php on line 1284 [09:58:25] re [10:05:10] Good morning all. I have just upgraded from 1.10 to 1.11 and am using GD for image thumbnailing. Thumbnails are not showing on my wiki where they were before, and in the thumbs folder I'm getting folders by the name of the image, but no thumbnail creation. Does anyone have any clue what's going on here? Trawling forums and the mediawiki help have not yielded any ideas so far. [10:18:38] sushiguru: hard to tell without any error messages. try getting some [10:18:43] !debug | sushiguru [10:18:43] --mwbot-- sushiguru: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [10:18:58] sushiguru: also try with freshly uploaded images [10:21:56] Tried with fresh images - no joy. Don't have access to PHP logs; just tried the sysadmin and he reports there are no errors listed for me. [10:24:12] increase verbosity, try debug log. [10:24:50] however: having no access to error logs is A Very Bad Thing (tm). Error logs are critical to keeping a site safe. If your host doesn't provide it, change hosts., [10:25:11] Hrm - not sure my university would be happy with that.... [10:27:06] Debug log is empty... [10:31:39] good morning [10:32:23] anyone got experience in image problems? [10:32:38] After I upgraded from 1.10.1 to 1.11.1 my images sort of.. screwed up [10:33:14] yup [10:33:23] Images are OK, but all thumbs are lost. [10:33:34] how do you know that?! [10:33:43] http://www.thetownstons.com/thetownstons/index.php/Sissirat [10:33:44] for example [10:34:41] how do I fix it? [10:35:56] to do something with images/thumbs? [10:37:01] sushiguru ? [10:37:56] dunno, yet. [10:38:08] common problem from 1.10.1 -> 1.11.1? [10:38:28] not really. [10:38:38] image handling changed (you get nice error messages now, for one thing) [10:38:49] but what happens on the file system should be the same [10:39:07] make sure you have the file permissions set right in the image dir (and all subdirectories) [10:39:25] hi [10:39:36] let.. me check [10:39:49] anybody to help me with rewrite pb on mediawiki 1.11 ? (sorry for my bad english i'm french [10:40:05] !rewriteproblems | WaNa [10:40:05] --mwbot-- WaNa: 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [10:40:14] It's def. not the same - image deletion has changed, and now I can't delete files as the folders don't have write permission - there'a new folder 'deleted' [10:40:35] WaNa: please check each point. getting them all right solves 99% of rewrite issues i have seen on this channel. [10:40:59] thks duesentrieb but i have ever check all point [10:41:05] myes.. deleted has to have more permissions I think? [10:41:09] my rewrite workin fine on http://www.clicsexe.fr/dico/ [10:41:19] but only "login" is not working :( [10:41:35] sushiguru: ah, you may have to create that. deleted images are now kept in a special place (before, they were simply gone). anyway, the image dir must be writable anyway (otherwise, you will get no thumbnails, for one thing. and can't upload) [10:42:10] WaNa: you fail at point 4) [10:42:15] when you try to login, you are redirect to an article !!! :/ http://www.clicsexe.fr/dico/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Accueil [10:42:21] WaNa: move your files to a different dir. [10:42:27] image is rwx, as is thumbs, archive, temp and deleted, but the folders created in deleted are not, and mediawiki fails at that point. [10:42:31] WaNa: login problems may be unlrelated, though [10:42:54] i can't change my directory it's good directory [10:43:04] sushiguru: that is odd... it should be able to chnage the permissions as needed. this may be related to some safemode setting. check for that. [10:43:07] the rewrite is working fine but not for the login :( [10:43:09] !safemode [10:43:09] --mwbot-- safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [10:43:45] (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example) [10:43:47] typical [10:43:51] I've had 1.10 running in safemode with no problems at alll; this is new behaviour with the upgrade. [10:44:08] Im on one line with sushi [10:44:18] WaNa: again: you fail at point 4 - you use the same path for virtual pages and actual files. this may lead to conflicts. it *may* cause your login problem [10:44:24] PHP is a prime example of how *not* to write a programming language :P [10:44:29] Does anyone know if it's possible to roll the databases back from 1.11 to 1.10? [10:44:47] or am I going to have to revert to the backup? [10:44:54] thank you due, i will see right now the point 4 [10:45:01] sushiguru: downgrade is usually not possible. or rather, it is, but upgrading again later can get you into a complete mess. [10:45:40] sushiguru: mediawiki has always had problems with safemode, and safemode will go away soon. you can get around the problem with image deletion easily though: tell mediawiki to somply delete the images, as it did before. [10:45:43] As things stand, I'd rather roll back to 1.10 and leave it until the university gets its act together and lifts safe mode, then upgrade to 2.97 at that time. [10:46:00] How? [10:46:20] isnt it possible to put that off in localsettings? [10:46:25] don't remember the setting, hold on [10:46:53] but i don't know how to use different paht :( [10:47:38] sushiguru: $wgSaveDeletedFiles = false; [10:47:59] got it - I'll give it a whirl, though it's depracated in 1.11 ... [10:48:04] Duesentrieb do u want to see my htaccess ? [10:48:05] WaNa: rename the directory. change $wgScriptPath accordingly in you config. Change your rewrite rules accordingly. [10:48:48] all this is ok due [10:48:49] ## Add by julien le 30/01/08 [10:48:49] $wgArticlePath = '/dico/$1'; [10:48:49] $wgUsePathInfo = true; [10:49:06] RewriteEngine On [10:49:06] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [10:49:06] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [10:49:06] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php/$1 [QSA,L] [10:50:24] as you can see http://www.clicsexe.fr/dico/ work fine [10:50:30] WaNa: use a pastebin [10:50:30] but you can't login :( [10:50:49] pastebin ? (sorry i don't understand this word i'm french) [10:50:57] !pastebin [10:50:57] --mwbot-- Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [10:52:26] WaNa: anyway: i have told you that this is *not* ok, and why. but i don't know if that is the reason you can not log in, because you never said what "can't" means, exactly. [10:52:38] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/81919 [10:53:14] as you can see http://www.clicsexe.fr/dico/ work [10:53:26] WaNa: "work" is relative. [10:53:45] it is a VERY BAD IDEA to use conflicting pathes for files and articles. [10:54:02] but again: tell me *how* you canÄt log in? [10:54:10] error message? or are you just logged out again? [10:54:15] it is a "mediawiki" suggestion [10:54:22] no error message [10:54:31] just you are in an article when you want to login lol [10:54:36] WaNa: show me that suggestion [10:54:43] http://www.clicsexe.fr/dico/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Accueil [10:54:47] ok the suggestion : [10:55:07] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [10:55:33] yes. you are in an article. because you use /dico/ for both, pages/articles and files. which causes conflicts. which is why you SHOULD NOT DO IT [10:55:53] Duesen: I got the same problem as sushi? At thumbnail images I instead see: Error creating thumbnail: Unable to create destination directory [10:55:56] that suggestion CLEARLY uses different pathes for files (/w in the example) and page (/wiki in the example)( [10:56:04] and my permissions on images/thumbs are perfectly ok [10:56:20] OK - file deletion still doesn't work; error is: Error deleting file: Could not create directory "deleted/q/e/1". [10:56:53] thank you so much due, should i create the directory or just use the exact suggestion in .htaccess ? [10:58:08] LegendRunner: all i can tell you is: find out why you can't create that directory. try verbosity. [10:58:11] !debug | LegendRunner [10:58:11] --mwbot-- LegendRunner: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [10:58:35] sushiguru: and you are sure you have turned the setting of? near the *end* of your localsettings file? [10:59:08] WaNa: rename your directory to /w and change the rewrite rules and $wgScriptPath (NOT $wgArticlePath) accordingly. [10:59:11] i want to do a mass find/replace update on all articles. i gotta use a bot right? can somebody point me to the according MW page? i'm blind i think [10:59:17] hmmyes, it just made me wondering as the destination file for thumbnails is /images/thumbs/ and that clearly exists with all the images init [10:59:29] oh i have understood i will try to do that, thank you very much due, see you soon [10:59:30] nope - will do. Also, I've noticed that my Localsettings file *must* have ?> at the end or the wiki bombs. If other files are missing the closing php tag, could this be the cause of the thumbnail problems? [11:00:01] MONK3000: look for pywikipediabot [11:00:25] LegendRunner: but it needs to create an extra dir for the thumbs of each imag [11:00:36] cheerio [11:00:50] gotcha, let me read that page then [11:01:05] OK - switch at bottomw of LocalSettings and still getting the same error message. I'm guessing the switch has no effect on 1.11 since it's deprecated :( [11:01:22] sushiguru: no it can't. but it is very strange. the ?> at the end should never be needed anywhere, and actually tends to cause problems (becuase people put blank lines after it, which are rreated literally by php) [11:01:58] sushiguru: the switch should definitly have an effect. though just reloading the page will not tell you, because the error message gets cached along eith the rest of the page. [11:02:14] OK - I'll clear the cache too. [11:02:17] err wait - that doesn't apply to deleting images.# [11:02:27] for thumbnailing, it's important to keep in mind [11:02:57] sushiguru: if you told it not to keep deleted images, but it complains about not being able to create a dir in deleted, something is VERY wrong. [11:03:10] Indeed. [11:03:34] Which is, quite frankly, a little annoying since the wiki was working wonderfully at 1.10 [11:03:59] Ok, I tried to find information with that.. debug stuff, and I found another error, but far from related to the thumbnail one, the error stays in the image block [11:04:21] sushiguru: oh... wait... sorry. since 1.11, you have to configure this differently. [11:05:21] sushiguru: keep the $saveDeletedFiels = false; and add this: $wgFileStore['deleted']['directory'] = null; [11:05:31] *Duesentrieb think this is a bit silly [11:05:33] can I make $wgFileStore['deleted']['hash'] = 0 to store all deleted images in the root 'deleted' [11:07:13] aye - that worked :D [11:07:30] Now to fix the thumbnail issue.... [11:10:13] Still have no clue why they're being created as folders in 'thumb' :| [11:13:13] hi. what tables are dumped in the mysql dump of wikipedia? [11:19:56] 03(mod) Render redirect wikilinks in a redirect class for customization via user/ site CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12968 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:20:25] 03(mod) Render redirect wikilinks in a redirect class for customization via user/ site CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12968 (10raimond.spekking) [11:42:55] Does anyone happen to know which .php file actually creates the thumbnails, so save me going on a hunt? [11:43:45] it is in includes/media/ files [11:44:31] and that folders are creates is perfectly normal. each image gets its own folder for its thumbnails. [11:44:55] why that folder gets the wrong permissions, that would be the real question. [11:44:59] hrm - I'm just not getting the thumbnail inside the folder. [11:45:18] enablling php's on page error reporting might even tell you. have you even tried that? [11:45:18] I'll force a chmod and see what happens [11:45:29] Not yet. [11:45:48] err. that's the first thing to try. which is why i gave you the debug link at the very beginning [11:46:14] got an error, don't know why? turn on error reporting, duh. [11:46:22] anyway, i need some lunch [11:47:30] Aye - that's the problem after all - will contact the admin and see what they can do about it :| [11:47:55] Cheers Duesentrieb [12:12:21] AzaTht: I got started on the blredirect thing [12:12:38] It took me about 15 minutes just to compose a working SQL query [12:14:55] AzaTht: http://rafb.net/p/f2TpGc29.html --> that's the horror I wrote just for you ;) [12:19:43] sushiguru: uh, you can enable on-page error reporting yourself. it's all in the link i gave you. [12:19:48] !debug | sushiguru [12:19:48] --mwbot-- sushiguru: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [12:21:50] Got to the root of it now, but no closer to a solution. When the function wfMkdirParents is called from GlobalFunctions it tries to create the folder with mode 0777, but it's being created with 0755 (no global write) and so the actual thumbnail can't be written to the folder; it's a safe mode (groan) setting that I'll have to see if I can work around - it might be that if I have ownership... [12:21:52] ...of the parent folder (thumb) changed to the web server then it *may* work... [12:22:16] !safemode | sushiguru [12:22:16] --mwbot-- sushiguru: safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [12:22:34] However - because the subfolders of thumb are created by the web server, then I can't even delete them :| [12:23:45] Yeah - that doesn't help Roan as I have no control over php.ini [12:25:42] sushiguru: vote with your wallet, vote with your feet: if your host sucks, go somewhere else. [12:25:58] That, however, would mean changing my job... [12:26:09] So not really an option [12:26:12] :P [12:26:47] How do I add 'safemode' as a parameter to index.php? [12:26:53] safe mode makes even less sense in a corporate environment [12:27:05] Tell that to the admin. [12:27:10] huh? as a parameter? what do you mean? [12:27:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Optional_additional_data [12:27:52] sushiguru: you can't change php settings from the url. you can't change safemode from inside php at all. that would make it pointless. [12:28:47] Sorry - I thought it was a mediawiki setting. [12:29:35] hell no [12:30:00] it's a php specific idiocy mediawiki is trying to work around [12:30:05] I know that SAFE_MODE is a php setting, but from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#Optional_additional_data I though there was a mediawiki setting as a workaround for some limited features [12:36:49] sushiguru: oh, i didn't even know about that one :) from what i see there, this has nothing to do at all with php's safemode. it'S a fixup for broken browsers; does something to character encodings. [12:37:13] Ah well. Back to v 1.10 for me then :| [12:39:45] sushiguru: it's odd that it should work with 1.10, but not 1.11... [12:40:06] or didn't 1.10 use extra directories for thumbnails? i thought it did [12:40:22] Tell me about it. No - 1.10 put the thumbs in the root or 'thumb' [12:40:25] anyway, safemode is so broken, it hurts. what sense toes it make to let you create directories you can't write to? [12:40:40] Not a lot really. [12:41:00] err, yes, 1.11 also puts them into thumb, no? but it creates extra subdirs? [12:41:10] uh... have you turned off hashing? [12:41:27] yup [12:41:34] because with directory hashing, you probably have this pribalem also for regular uploads, even with 1.10 [12:41:37] yea, thought so. [12:41:41] hm... [12:42:21] sushiguru: it may be worth telling TimStarling about this. basically, using extra directories makes thumbnailing impossible with safemode. [12:42:36] you might even want to file a bug report for this [12:42:47] OK - will do. [12:43:09] also mention if you are using mod_php or suphp or whatever [12:43:43] afaik it's a pretty standard php5 build in safe mode [12:43:48] 03raymond * r30697 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php ProofreadPage.php): [12:43:48] Add 'descriptionmsg' for Special:Version [12:43:48] Kill whitespaces [12:47:09] 03(mod) New parser breaks some template expansion in Semantic MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12906 (10ThomasBleher) [12:51:27] hello. i have a problem with a mediawiki installation : I can "send mail to his user", and i can get the confirmation mail if i try to change my password on the preference page. But i dont receive any mail for the page i'm watching [12:51:49] orzel: Look at your Special:Preferences to see whether you enabled that feature [12:53:35] i can't find it in preferences. i'm usint 1.6.3 [12:53:37] using [12:54:10] orzel: Maybe that feature didn't *exist* in 1.6.3? [12:54:26] You should at the very least upgrade to 1.6.10 (security fixes) [12:54:29] there's a tab "watch" ... [12:54:36] Or to 1.11.1 if you've got PHP 5 [12:54:42] orzel: Which puts it on Special:Watchlist [12:54:50] Email on change may have been introduced later [12:54:55] that's php4, and i'm not responsible for this one. [12:55:11] RoanKattouw: oh? what is it useful for then ? [12:55:35] So the page is bolded in Special:Recentchanges, and its most recent change is visible in Special:Watchlist [12:55:56]