[00:00:21] 03(mod) Incorrect MagicVariable hook implementation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12837 (10achuggard) [00:00:47] BrokenArrow: as long as l10n for hundreds of language is still not even 'minimal' (core-mostused complete) I wouldn't concentrate on the details, but on the big picture... [00:01:12] BrokenArrow: (being MediaWiki localisation instead of local wiki localisation) [00:02:28] yes, but having some data on user population for multilingual projects every x months could also tell us how much people benefit from translatos' work. [00:03:37] 03(mod) Incorrect MagicVariable hook implementation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12837 +comment (10achuggard) [00:03:37] has anybody an idea about the error [00:03:43] BrokenArrow: but especially for sites like commons and meta, extension Translate has some interesting features (like local message groups) that could localise a lot of content using {{int:}} and make the translation process very transparent. [00:03:43] BrokenArrow: that may be a chicken/egg and penetration issue... [00:03:52] BrokenArrow: anyway: zzz... for real now ;) ttyl. [00:04:04] 03(mod) Incorrect MagicVariable hook implementation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12837 (10achuggard) [00:04:23] rarr finally [00:04:46] *BrokenArrow will leave the thoughts about the chicken/egg and penetration issue before going to sleep [00:05:03] no one here [00:05:55] ? [00:06:19] BrokenArrow: a dirty mind is a joy forever, but I meant it in a less explicit context ;) [00:07:05] i think i fixed it [00:07:45] http://rafb.net/p/GQflnl44.html [00:08:14] siebrand: see if it works after applying that patch [00:08:16] the error was produced by $dbw->update [00:09:14] the first chunk is a whitespace fix, so that doesn't really do anything [00:12:17] Zach: it's fixed the wrong way ;) [00:12:53] yea, it's a hack :P [00:12:53] Zach: in my wiki all the extra tabs should read "oioi" and they all read "commentary" now [00:13:18] oh [00:14:06] 03dale * r30933 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (14 files in 8 dirs): media search filters now support date range queries [00:17:01] Zach: never mind. It works. [00:17:34] oh ok [00:18:30] Zach: I tricked myself. Had set user language to en. [00:18:35] i didn't really know what to do if it wasn't working :P [00:19:01] i would've just given up, thrown a hissy fit or something [00:19:37] 03siebrand * r30934 10/trunk/extensions/CommentPages/CommentPages.php: [00:19:37] * fix bug with message on comment tab (by Zach) [00:19:37] * some indentation and style fixes [00:37:33] 03(NEW) MedCom wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13014 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Ryanpostlethwaite) [00:40:18] Does anybody know why ther occurs this db error stated above? [00:40:42] Database::makeList called with incorrect parameters -> Database->makeList('SER_EDITED = 1', 2) [00:42:03] anyone? [00:45:15] 03(mod) MedCom wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13014 +shell (10minuteelectron) [00:46:07] Asga, what is the first parameter trying to do [00:46:55] if you're testing if the constant SER_EDITED is equal to 1, then use == [00:47:40] lol [00:48:33] i was researching [00:49:02] $dbw->update('SERevisions', 'SER_EDITED = 1' , 'SER_PAGEID = ' . $articleid, __METHOD__); [00:49:04] Duesentrieb: you here? [00:49:16] this is the function which produces the error [00:51:02] MinuteElectron: barely. [00:51:07] *Duesentrieb eyes bed [00:51:16] lol maybe because its a string *selfslap* [00:53:19] Duesentrieb: That's unfourtunate, I was wondering if you had a moment to discuss internationalised extension descriptions on mediawiki.org - it is obvious how they could be extraced from subversion, but i don't see how it would be posisble to put them onto extension description pages. Do you have any ideas on how this could be done? Using more extension parameters wouldbe difficult to implement (how would language s [00:53:21] seems to work [00:53:54] MinuteElectron: the obvious way would be to use one of the multilang extensions [00:54:28] hmm [00:54:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multilang [00:54:55] i suppose that could wor [00:54:57] k [00:55:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multilanguage [00:55:18] i guess both would need more work before they could be deployed. [00:55:20] Didn't the sysadmins have a problem with installating themdue to caching? [00:55:23] yeah [00:55:45] may be. though the parserf cache is langugae-dependant anyway [00:55:53] but there may be issues i don't wuite remember [00:56:05] ok [00:56:05] to bad rob isn't around any more :/ [00:56:09] i'll post to the mailing list [00:56:09] anyway, off to bed [00:56:12] goodnight [00:56:14] sleep well [00:56:21] cuyea [00:56:43] I need a SQL query to find out the time of the last edit to my wiki... if someone would be so kind and PM me the query I would be thankful :) [00:57:34] TheLetterE: one moment [00:57:39] MinuteElectron: thank you [00:58:32] TheLetterE: select max(rc_teimstamp) from recentchanges; [00:58:34] 03(mod) MedCom wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13014 +comment (10martinp23) [00:58:47] gone for real, now :) [00:58:56] SELECT rev_timestamp FROM revision ORDER BY rev_timestamp LIMIT 1; [00:58:59] *sigh* [00:59:01] you win Duesentrieb [00:59:04] :) [00:59:37] except teimstamp is spelt a bit wrong-ish ;) [00:59:56] indeed [01:02:09] MinuteElectron: that gives the revision number? [01:04:54] 03(mod) MedCom wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13014 (10Ryanpostlethwaite) [01:05:40] TheLetterE: it does? [01:05:56] time stamps are in the format YYYYMMDDHHMMSS [01:37:26] how do I change the password of a user using phpmyadmin? [01:37:58] user_password only says [BLOB - 32 bytes] [01:38:05] !passwordsql [01:38:05] --mwbot-- UPDATE user SET user_password=MD5(CONCAT("1-",MD5("password"))) WHERE user_id=1; This will reset the password for the user with user_id 1 (the default admin account, usually WikiSysop) to "password". If you do not know the name of the user account, execute: SELECT user_name FROM user WHERE user_id=1; [01:40:26] huh, why would you not know the name of an acount? [01:40:38] I think it meant to say the ID. [01:40:44] In which case the query is backwards. [01:40:46] yeah [01:40:48] *Simetrical rewrites it [01:40:49] *MinuteElectron fixes it [01:40:51] dammit [01:40:54] :P [01:41:53] 03(NEW) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (artificial) [01:43:18] That's a remarkably good feature, actually. Why don't we have that? [01:43:18] *MinuteElectron goes to bed. [01:43:29] hmm, that IS a good idea [01:43:29] Simetrical: No one made it? [01:43:40] Don't be silly. [01:43:45] I'm sure *someone* did. [01:43:56] Just not a developer. Or if they did, as an extension. [01:44:18] ok [01:44:21] goodnight [01:44:37] are all user accounts stored in the user table? [01:45:16] atom_man, yes. [01:45:31] At least unless you're using some alternative authentication system. [01:45:49] I have just installed mediawiki.. [01:46:09] Then the answer is probably yes, they're all in the user table. [01:46:13] but could log in with the account I specifyed during the instalation. [01:46:30] so I made another user. and the login want smooth. [01:46:45] but in the user table theres only one user ID=1 [01:47:07] atom_man: you have to change the id number [01:47:16] to get different users [01:47:39] id=1 is usually WikiSysop (or whatever you named it) [01:47:43] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 +schema-change; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:48:03] i'm using phpmyadmin, it should display more then one row in the table.. [01:48:10] It should, yes. [01:48:15] Are you sure you're looking at the right database? [01:48:40] atom_man: It will only display the users that actually exist, so if you're the only registered account... [01:48:56] He said he made another. [01:49:13] but I cant find it anywhere in the database. [01:49:28] the loging works, so does the password reminder. [01:49:40] how can i hide the "Donations" link? [01:49:48] tlhiv_laptop: edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [01:50:01] ok [01:50:49] thanx [01:53:12] Skizzerz: could you help me with a skin? [01:53:18] http://metapost.tlhiv.org/wiki/index.php [01:53:25] i'm trying to get the Navigation to the top [01:53:26] is there a way to reset the "cant send password reminder" timer? [01:54:25] Skizzerz: i want the order to be Navigation, Views, and Personal Tools [01:54:33] tlhiv_laptop: find where it's output is on the skin's php file, then move the navigation part to above the other ones [01:54:35] 03(FIXED) External links with & in them break in an imagemap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11504 (10Prodego) [02:02:42] is there a way to reset the "cant send password reminder" timer? [02:02:57] for one user?? [02:03:39] atom_man: yeah, remove the newpass time in the user's DB record [02:04:39] I would like to setup an auto-forwarding system that first checks if a topic exists... and if it doesn't, it forwards the user to the 'To Do' Namespace I've created. Is this already a feature of Mediawiki? [02:05:01] update user set user_newpass_time=NULL where user_name='CreepyGuy7'; [02:07:22] Anyone?? [02:07:28] thx.. managed to login now.. [02:08:27] esgarrouth19: doesn't ring a bell. [02:09:01] Could you provide any leads as to where I could find an extension for this? Or should I just create my own extension? [02:09:17] i'm not 100% on what you're trying to do [02:09:34] but extensions can be found on www.mediawiki.org [02:09:38] Ok... say a user goes to the article 'Cats' in the main namespace [02:09:55] The article 'Cats' does not exist, so I want it to forward them to 'To Do:Cats' [02:09:58] ok, and MW says "no text in page" [02:10:04] wierd. [02:10:36] And if it doesn't exist in the 'To Do' namespace, I want them to be able to create it there. [02:10:37] yeah, write your own extension - should be pretty straightforward. [02:10:43] Alright, thanks. [02:10:58] np. if you have any questions throughout the process, feel free to ask in here [02:11:06] many devs sit around in here [02:11:50] haha Ok, thanks again. Bye. [02:13:12] 03(NEW) Anchor encoding is not one-to-one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13016 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:13:13] 03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:17:36] *Simetrical assigns bug 13015 to TimLaqua [02:18:12] !bug 13015 [02:18:12] --mwbot-- http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 [02:19:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 (10t.laqua) [02:21:03] should I reassign it to me or leave it at wikibugs? [02:25:25] TimLaqua, either one you like. [02:25:28] No formality here, really. [02:26:44] Hi everyone, I have setup a wikifamily with multiple languages but I want the language toolbar (below the toolbox) to be there permanently and with all the languages. How do I do that? [02:26:48] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 (10artificial) [02:27:17] I'll be very grateful if anyone can give me any ideas [02:28:52] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 +comment (10achuggard) [02:30:43] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 (10t.laqua) [02:31:03] I have used interwiki links but that would force me to add links to all the languages in all the pages. Perhaps you guys know of another way to do it [02:33:49] i hate animated GIF's and i was wondering if I could use JavaScript in mediawiki to perform animations [02:33:58] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [02:36:32] you're saying we index every column we ever use? [02:36:41] in a where clause? [02:40:50] i mean, is that seriously our methodology? If we use it in a where clause, we index it? [02:42:35] TimLaqua: if necessary for performance reasons [02:42:39] which it frequently is :) [02:42:52] but for a "I forgot my username" feature? [02:43:22] Email would be the only key we could have to query with, so it's index or full table scan :) [02:43:24] we have millions of rows in the user table. a table scan can be rather expensive [02:43:40] I feel dirty. [02:46:16] is there a writeup for the schema change workflow? [02:46:35] probably no writeup, but here's a summary: [02:47:11] 1) run updates on slaves in turn (if very expensive, possibly take them out of rotation while doing this so users don't get lag reports) [02:47:34] 2) switch master [02:47:42] 3) run updates on the old master (now a slave) [02:47:51] 4) update software to use the new fields [02:48:15] *brion stabs netsplit [02:49:22] i got step (1) [02:49:24] ;-) [02:49:36] blah [02:49:42] 2) switch masters [02:49:46] 3) run updates on the old master (now a slave) [02:49:52] 4) update software to use the new fields/indexes [02:49:56] 5) profit! [02:50:37] so what's the dev methodology? Like certain files need to be updated w/ the new schema (what files) and update routines developed, etc [02:51:16] TimLaqua: what do you mean? [02:51:37] You mean like update.inc, tables.php, /archive ? [02:51:42] yeah [02:51:47] *tables.sql [02:52:02] is there a way to hide/show the editing toolbar? [02:52:13] 'cause all I ever cared about for schema was tables.sql - but I never make schema changes in the core and I always use mysql. ;-) [02:53:44] why don't we develop a "schema team" and then the devs can do dev stuff and the schema people can make it fast? ;-) [02:54:15] you mean an IT team to do the queries? [02:54:28] in the long run, we seem to be heading that way [02:54:49] not do the queries, but advise on query efficency and make schema changes when needed or appropriate [02:54:58] brion: eventually the new IT guy (or gal, but...you know) will being doing more than fixing printers ;) [02:54:59] TimLaqua: what i do: [02:55:02] 1) update tables.sql [02:55:02] see, none of my wikis have 1,000,000 rows in the user table [02:55:16] 2) create an archives/patch-whatever.sql file that performs the updates [02:55:22] 3) add that to updaters.inc [02:55:41] 4) wait for postgres boys to update the postgres version ;) [02:55:46] *AaronSchulz was about to add that [02:56:18] a few notes on making things easier: [02:56:40] so when is it appropriate to make schema changes? do we always wait for the beginning of the cycle? or just drop it when it's ready? [02:56:40] * adding new tables that can start empty is the easiest change [02:56:52] * adding new tables that could use some initialization isn't too hard, usually [02:57:19] * adding new fields/indexes to existing tables is annoying, but not too hard -- as long as it's ok to have them sitting there while the old software runs [02:57:33] * removing existing fields/indexes -- tends to suck. hard. [02:58:12] * adding new primary keys is the most fun [02:58:30] or unique ones in general [02:58:44] brion: so how is that log_id comin' along, eh? [02:59:04] nevarrrrrrrr :) [02:59:18] tell me that is not the hardest? ;) [03:00:04] that's a pain in the arse because you're adding something with a unique constraint that needs to be initialized all at once in a magic poof. :) [03:00:20] so adding it requires some awful thing like creating a new table, copying all the data, then swapping the tables aroud [03:00:30] that's hard to do cleanly without taking things offline while you work [03:00:55] Tim said they may be in order so it may be easier to run [03:01:53] O_O [03:02:16] *Warpath coughs SUL coughs [03:02:20] *Warpath retreats [03:03:50] :D [03:05:13] Hey, can someone help me figure out what needs to be installed for to actually be parsed as HTML? [03:05:31] it seems to just show up as code, and not.. as a table row [03:06:18] does

foo

render normally for you? [03:06:34] ...good question [03:07:37] page I'm concerned about: http://cmwp.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_generic_subgroup [03:07:49] it's possible I just... didn't make the code correctly [03:08:09] (or, rather, I screwed it up while pasting it from Wikipedia) [03:08:57] Azu: a needs to appear inside a [03:09:04] out of context it's not allowed [03:09:08] pretty sure there's a

before that [03:09:28] doesn't show up in the output, of course [03:09:34] well, also if you don't have tidy installed, you can't use conditionals [03:09:51] ...Really. [03:09:55]

foo

[03:10:02] what is the best way to hide ALL edit indicators if one is not logged in [03:10:05] because the html is sanitized before the conditionals [03:10:06] !tidy [03:10:06] --mwbot-- For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [03:10:18] but with tidy, it is sanitized after [03:10:19] i have set it up already to ensure that one has to be logged in to edit [03:10:33] but i want to hide the [edit] links if someone is not logged in [03:10:50] which seems silly, but because wikimedia uses tidy, the devs don't seem to care if it breaks for those without tidy ^_^ [03:11:33] Azu: so you have two choices.. a) is install tidy, then you can copy any template from wikipedia [03:11:41] b) is to use wikitables, which can be split [03:11:56] Splarka, same problem with wikia :( [03:12:25] yes [03:12:49] I begged, pleaded, and fought with the Wikia devs over getting Tidy installed, but they complained it broke too much stuff [03:13:11] (which really, is already broken, tidy just exposed the cracks) [03:14:09] Azu: so for example in wikitable: [03:14:09] {{#if:{{{list1|}}}| [03:14:09] {{!}}- [03:14:09] ! style="background:#ddf;{{{groupstyle|}}}" | {{{group1}}} [03:14:09] }} [03:14:33] frankly, it's not my wiki [03:14:34] and create Template:! with content of one pipe | and no linebreaks [03:14:43] the admin is leaving it up to me to figure out how to do things [03:15:25] "Hey, this template isn't working" "Oh? Tell me what you want installed." [03:15:41] has been a sort of trial and error process [03:18:04] ...oh but I have sysop now [03:18:16] I suppose I can't install Tidy with sysop though. [03:18:43] nope... [03:19:28] didn't think so [03:20:31] do you know how to use wikitables? [03:21:57] Nope. [03:22:36] ...well [03:22:41] http://cmwp.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit [03:22:44] Does that count? [03:22:57] because if so then apparently I've done it [03:23:16] whether or not I know how is irrelevant if I can just plagiarize myself [03:24:30] -- hahaha [03:24:36] he just installed tidy [03:24:41] okay thanks [03:24:41] well, there you go [03:24:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table [03:24:54] wikitables are... syntax in confusing pipes and squiggles [03:25:19]

is {|,

is |- and the is assumed by context. [03:25:38] th is !, td is |, and two pipes are the gap inside the td tag [03:25:59] | style="foo" | bar becomes bar [03:26:22] 03(mod) Enable CommentPages extension on English Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11586 (10zach+bugs) [03:26:42] but since uncovered pipes are also used as parserfunction (#if etc) delimiters, you have to escape them for wikitables with a tempate {{!}} containing | [03:32:43] Splarka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man/whatlinksHighlight.js [03:35:58] heh [03:36:19] its not perfect [03:36:23] but it works [03:37:14] *Splarka refrains from a snide comment about innerHTML [03:37:25] clever use of the rest though [03:37:36] *MrZ-man hates it too [03:37:37] now you just need to get it approved as a gadget [03:38:04] I'll add some more for redirects later (since whatlinkshere lists pages that are linked through redirects) [03:38:30] wait, wasn't this convo in #wikimedia-tech [03:38:35] yes [03:38:38] *Splarka thinks you're confusing people now [03:39:34] also, this didn't address either of the other two original issues, that of showing what the link(s) text is on the Special: page, nor showing what section(s) have the link [03:39:36] hmm [03:39:39] it also needs a change to CSS page too [03:39:50] well [03:39:54] you can use inline css for now [03:40:00] and actually [03:40:12] Splarka: that's too hard to do with JS [03:40:13] why not give it a name="" and make the link fragment point to it? [03:40:15] nah [03:40:21] is easy [03:40:32] the "showing what the link(s) text is on the Special: page, nor showing what section(s) have the link" [03:40:38] that part [03:40:41] well, yah [03:40:46] that is ^_^ [03:41:03] newtext = pagetext.replace(stuff, " of course, it would only work for the first match [03:41:14] the CSS is just a.highlighted { background-color: #FDE910; } [03:41:42] *MrZ-man uses such descriptive variable names like "stuff" [03:41:51] newtext = pagetext.replace(stuff, " I could do that [03:42:13] where thingy is the fragment-escaped title or something [03:42:25] I think the CSS was a leftover bit from another idea [03:42:36] also added to the URLs modified above of course [03:42:51] + '#' + thingy; [03:43:16] *MrZ-man will do that later [03:43:19] and unlike id, names can repeat (well, maybe only with radio buttons, but still) [03:43:36] *Splarka tests the w3 validator [03:44:19] is there a way to make it only modify the links in the actual article, not things on the sidebar, etc? [03:44:30] yah [03:44:57] pagetext = document.getElementById('bodyContent').innerHTML; [03:45:10] and then drop it back in there [03:45:12] although it would be cleaner with the dom [03:45:19] or at least slightly cleaner with... [03:45:27] page = document.getElementById('bodyContent') [03:45:31] and then refer to page.innerHTML [03:45:41] although better not to modify that live, since it is kinda slow [03:46:17] I tried something like document.links[i].class = 'highlighted' [03:46:25] but that didn't work [03:46:37] className [03:46:47] or .setAttribute('class',name); [03:46:56] JS is fickle [03:47:12] unpredictable camelcase and strange browser requirements [03:47:15] of course it wouldn't be the obvious things... [03:47:20] of course not! [03:47:28] as long as it works in FF :) [03:47:32] btw, three is #mediawiki-scripts for this sorta thing [03:47:42] if you're in it for the long haul [03:47:52] we'll see [03:59:55] oh [04:00:18] What do I have to edit to get the symbol next to external links to disappear? [04:00:37] for all external links on the wiki? [04:00:40] is that under common.css? [04:00:40] yes [04:00:58] well [04:00:59] I assume it's something to do with linkification [04:01:01] it only affects certain skins [04:01:23] so it would be under MediaWiki:Monobook.css to start with [04:02:08] that has no content at this point [04:02:41] #bodyContent a.external {padding-right:0px !important; background:none !important;} [04:02:44] try that... [04:03:14] *Azu throws it into Common.css [04:04:22] well, MediaWiki:Monobook.css having no content to start with doesn't mean it won't work there [04:04:30] right [04:04:48] although you /might/ do odd things in some other skins *shrug* [04:05:01] my example should be pretty neutral, but you might modify it in the future [04:05:51] be sure to clear your browser cache [04:06:26] oh, you don't need !important if you do something like: [04:06:26] body #bodyContent a.external {padding-right:0px; background:none;} [04:06:46] specificity ftw [04:08:24] *Azu tries to figure out where to throw in display:block in this table to fix (and not break) it [04:30:42] does anyone know of some sort of analytical app for mediawiki that figures out how many pages each user has created/modified? i'd like to compare each user's activity is my goal [04:36:59] nifty! found a solution myself, here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialUserScore [04:39:09] and this is even better: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Contribution_Scores [04:41:20] hi how do I link to an external image? [04:41:45] [[Image:http://www.mibbit.com/smilies/yel02.png]] doesn't do what I want [04:41:49] normally you can't [04:42:02] oh really? I have to upload them all? [04:42:44] yes, though i think there's an extension to link external images, but i'm not sure [04:42:52] hmm ok, [04:43:55] !externalimages | axod [04:43:55] --mwbot-- axod: To allow images from elsewhere to be included in your wiki, see . To limit this to some specific sources, see . [04:44:02] 03(mod) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 +comment (10dan_the_man) [04:44:45] thanks MrZ-man [04:45:45] axod: if it is just one or two, you can use CSS [04:46:07] ok, [04:46:25] for example, one site wanted to load, from an associated game site, one page of live game states, so they created a div with a site-wide (MediaWiki:Common.css) background-image defined for it [04:46:34] you can't use background-image inline but you can site-wide [05:06:11] can anyone help me out ? [05:06:51] ? [05:07:45] describe what kind of situation are you in to be helped out [05:08:02] !ask | barak4u [05:08:02] --mwbot-- barak4u: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [05:08:25] I am trying to initiate a Hebrew Translate page on the Hebrew Wikipedia similar to Wikipedia:Translation on the english one... the problem is that the Hebrew Wikipedia administrators are affriad to implement new features... [05:08:33] shouldn't there be a Wikipedia:Translation page on all the wikipedias in all the languages? [05:09:48] gangleri might have info... [05:09:58] hi! [05:10:09] hei [05:10:11] 03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015 +comment (10dan_the_man) [05:10:41] moment please did you try [[m:special:SiteMatrix]] ?? [05:11:21] ok [05:13:51] gangleri, are you still there ? [05:14:00] or are you still busy ? [05:18:47] gangleri? [05:19:03] ? [05:19:58] hi barak4u I am reading your posts [05:20:03] great [05:20:12] what do you reccon ? [05:20:22] barak4u, are you looking for an equivalent to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation ? [05:20:43] can you please provide the source link? and the target link ? [05:21:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Translation [05:21:44] yes thats it [05:22:07] I tried opening an equivalent page on the Hebrew Wikipedia [05:22:35] http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%92%D7%95%D7%9D ? [05:23:10] looking [05:23:32] but unfortunatly the Hebrew wikipedia adminstors thought this idea is not good so they rather not help me build it and most likely they would delete eventually any effort of mine to make it work [05:25:01] a translation page would be a perfect solution for the larger Hebrew Wikipedian community to collaborativly translate articles mainly from the English Wikipedia [05:25:08] barak4u maybe you need to wait one day or two [05:25:21] I have waited several months now [05:25:25] you will see who is supporting the idea and who not [05:25:31] oh; sorry [05:25:46] the main administrator for the Hebrew wikipedia didn't get it :( [05:25:52] this is the wrong channel [05:26:22] #wikimedia is about such issues : translations and things like that [05:26:29]