[00:13:28] <tmllp>	Hello. I want to be able to approve all edits by non sysop users before they go live. Is this possible?
[00:14:53] <Dashiva>	tmllp: Probably http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[00:16:28] <AaronSchulz>	that doesn't do that
[00:22:04] <tmllp>	AaronSchulz: does anything do it?
[00:24:00] <AaronSchulz>	no
[00:24:59] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: per-page read restrictions are not well supported
[00:25:05] <tmllp>	is it possible for me to make something will do it, I'm creating a wiki site but a requirment is that all content be pre-approved before going online
[00:26:16] <AaronSchulz>	I could probably hack it into flaggedrevs, not sure how safe that would be
[00:27:07] <Duesentrieb>	tmllp: it's not a wiki, then
[00:27:21] <AaronSchulz>	heh, right, Duesentrieb has a point ;)
[00:27:28] <Duesentrieb>	AaronSchulz: btw, why can't read-restrictiuons be managed just like edit-protection?
[00:27:41] <Duesentrieb>	should be possible, no?
[00:27:44] <AaronSchulz>	transclusions/images and such
[00:27:51] <AaronSchulz>	it is possible, but best done in the core
[00:27:58] <AaronSchulz>	but it would require a boatload of perm checks
[00:28:07] <Duesentrieb>	AaronSchulz: i'm aware of the loopholes (that'S why i introduced wgNonincludableNamespaces)
[00:28:19] <tmllp>	well it want's to be a wiki, but it's owner (my boss) is a law firm and they dont have their own criteria
[00:28:32] <Duesentrieb>	i'm just talking about the basic check of "no you can't see this page".
[00:28:43] <tmllp>	*do have, rather
[00:28:47] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. $title->userCan("read")
[00:29:22] <Duesentrieb>	tmllp: you can call it whatever you want, but it ain't a wiki if it's moderated :)
[00:29:27] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: do you want the old pre-approved history to be available?
[00:29:41] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, need to sleep
[00:29:44] <tmllp>	I want everyone to be able to see it, just not change it without submitting the changes and getting them approved
[00:30:03] <AaronSchulz>	well, if they can edit it, they know the page text
[00:30:07] <Duesentrieb>	!cms | tmllp
[00:30:07] --mwbot--	tmllp: You are advised to install an appropriate content management package if you want per-page access control and similar restrictions. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions> if you really want too. 
[00:30:11] <Duesentrieb>	!secrets | tmllp
[00:30:11] --mwbot--	tmllp: MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job.
[00:30:17] <AaronSchulz>	if they know that already, why bother restricting view rights?
[00:30:20] <Duesentrieb>	!access | tmllp
[00:30:20] --mwbot--	tmllp: For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[00:31:20] <Duesentrieb>	time for bed
[00:31:26] <Duesentrieb>	ttfn
[00:31:38] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: I could hack pages to always be visible if flagged and $wgFlaggedArticle->pageOverride() holds, and let all includes be shown too
[00:31:44] <tmllp>	it's ok if they see everything, but I don't want them posting incorrect information, since it's a site designed to help people follow and understand the law
[00:31:59] <AaronSchulz>	that would be reasonable if you have an internal editor group that doesn't want stuff shown until published
[00:32:04] <AaronSchulz>	that could make sense
[00:32:25] <AaronSchulz>	but having "anyone able to edit" but "can only view reviewed pages" doesn't make too much sense
[00:32:52] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: what flaggedrevs does now is just give a disclaimer at the top of unreviewed pages
[00:32:58] <tmllp>	ah
[00:33:36] <tmllp>	well I would want what you said, that is stuff not being shown untill approved/published
[00:35:46] <tmllp>	basically only one user would have the ability to release edits
[00:35:54] <tmllp>	or new pages
[00:36:06] <shep-werk>	hey all - im trying to import the enwiki dump
[00:36:18] <shep-werk>	it seems i am running into duplicate key issues
[00:36:26] <shep-werk>	does that mean the dump is wonky?
[00:37:15] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: what is this wiki for anyways?
[00:40:52] <AaronSchulz>	tmllp: but mainly, who do you want to be able to edit? Can anyone make an account? Is login required?
[00:41:32] <tmllp>	AaronSchulz: From the demo I made: http://calgunlaws.wikia.com/wiki/Calgunlaws_Wiki:About
[00:41:58] <tmllp>	I have an actual mediawiki running on my server btw
[00:42:32] <tmllp>	yes, login will be required, and the edit group will be those active in the community
[00:45:02] <AaronSchulz>	active how?
[00:46:13] <AaronSchulz>	If anyone who makes and account can edit, they can see the source text of pages
[00:46:27] <AaronSchulz>	so it seems odd that they can't view the same pages
[00:47:41] <shep-werk>	is this the right place to ask about the enwiki dumps? :-)
[00:47:52] <AaronSchulz>	see #wikimedia-tech
[00:48:08] <shep-werk>	tks
[00:49:35] <XDuxaX>	what is the propper syntax to access Mysql database from a remote PC?
[00:49:48] <XDuxaX>	PCs are on the same network
[00:50:09] <Skizzerz>	bah, is there any way to prevent <gallery> from auto-enlarging smaller images?
[00:50:13] <alnokta>	that question > #/dev/null
[00:51:21] <XDuxaX>	i thought it was 192.168.0.1\mysql
[00:51:22] <XDuxaX>	but it isnt
[00:51:25] <XDuxaX>	what is it?
[00:55:07] <XDuxaX>	there we go
[00:55:08] <XDuxaX>	got it
[00:55:12] <XDuxaX>	its /phpmyadmin
[00:55:14] <XDuxaX>	not /mysql
[00:57:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to retrieve forgotten usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13015  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[00:58:05] <CIA-6>	03greg * r31080 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/compare_schemas.pl: Reflect new change from CHAR to SMALLINT to match MySQL's pseudo-booleans.
[00:59:04] <CIA-6>	03greg * r31081 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (postgres/tables.sql updaters.inc): Add ipb_by_text to Postgres schema.
[01:02:13] <CIA-6>	03brion * r31082 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: 
[01:02:13] <CIA-6>	Fix for r30957: instead of just removing the misspelled parameter, fix the spelling! :)
[01:02:13] <CIA-6>	parseline -> array() -> parseinline
[01:03:43] <alnokta>	brion) would you join #wikimedia-checkuser please?
[01:03:56] <brion>	alnokta: apparently i can't
[01:04:23] <alnokta>	brion) why not?
[01:04:28] <AaronSchulz>	access...
[01:04:36] <AaronSchulz>	brion: you are in company then ;)
[01:06:18] <CIA-6>	03greg * r31083 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Have update.php change the functions to their new builtin tsearch2 versions if Postgres >= 8.3
[01:09:08] <shep-werk>	AaronSchulz: any other suggestions for places to ask? seems like everyone is lurking in -tech
[01:13:45] <CIA-6>	03greg * r31084 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/archives/ (4 files): Remove no longer used patch files.
[01:16:27] <alnokta>	" Dear MediaWiki Foundation,"
[01:17:43] <Asga>	i made my own page and than i added two submit buttons... calling an action defined in a form element.... (as usual) but how do i get the name property of the buttons when processing the submit with a hook to 'Unknown Action'
[01:17:44] <Asga>	?
[01:18:24] <Asga>	(i need to know which button was pressed...)
[01:52:34] <drivermadness>	Recently a spammer edited advertising and porn links onto my wiki and those links and edited data remain in the wiki's database and history (recent changes) part. Is there anyway to competly remove this content. 
[01:53:09] <drivermadness>	Maybe by removing everything their IP Address has edited.
[01:53:36] <alnokta>	it is your database and your wiki, you can do what you want with them.
[01:54:19] <drivermadness>	is there a safe way of removing them other than using phpmyadmin.
[01:54:22] <drivermadness>	like within the wiki!
[01:54:48] <alnokta>	that was not helpful..is it ;)
[01:54:56] <alnokta>	yes, you can delete the page 
[01:55:11] <alnokta>	then undelete the revisions you need
[01:55:17] <alnokta>	without the bad ones
[01:55:37] <alnokta>	or http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Oversight
[01:57:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) {{REVISIONID}} is broken just after page save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12694  +comment (10nathanlarson3141)
[02:01:03] <Evanion>	anyone awake?
[02:03:47] <drivermadness>	12:33PM
[02:04:31] <alnokta>	4.04AM
[02:06:19] <Evanion>	im looking for a way to add a from to the right side of a article on a wiki of mine ... any good extension that fixes that functionality?
[02:06:39] <Evanion>	(like country info on Wikipedia)
[02:08:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Split Special: Unwatchedpages into pages for each letter and number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13062 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ruhrfisch)
[02:18:12] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r31085 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
[02:18:12] <CIA-6>	* Show form even for reviewed versions
[02:18:12] <CIA-6>	* Various OOP cleanup, rename some functions
[02:18:12] <CIA-6>	* Move review notice up, bolden 'modify' link
[02:18:12] <CIA-6>	* Don't show 'draft' tab when stable=current
[02:18:13] <CIA-6>	* New page patrol links given target
[02:18:15] <CIA-6>	* Give usertext to allow user,timestamp index use for patrol links
[02:41:43] <tlhiv_laptop>	Skizzerz: hi
[02:42:10] <Skizzerz>	hi
[02:42:18] <Skizzerz>	o.0
[02:42:29] <tlhiv_laptop>	wanted to show you the results of your rawmsg suggestion
[02:42:41] <tlhiv_laptop>	http://metapost.tlhiv.org/wiki/index.php/Home
[02:42:58] <tlhiv_laptop>	the first thing is that users can convert their PDF graphics to SVG (as on that page)
[02:43:01] <Skizzerz>	oyeah, i remember you now :P
[02:43:11] <tlhiv_laptop>	;)
[02:43:21] <tlhiv_laptop>	also ... RGB previewer --> http://metapost.tlhiv.org/wiki/index.php/Color
[02:43:33] <tlhiv_laptop>	you can enter your colors and have it displayed
[02:43:54] <tlhiv_laptop>	similarly for CMYK colors --> http://metapost.tlhiv.org/wiki/index.php/Cmykcolor
[02:44:32] <Skizzerz>	mmk
[02:44:41] <tlhiv_laptop>	?
[02:44:53] <Skizzerz>	(that's hmm and ok jumbled together)
[02:45:01] <tlhiv_laptop>	hehe
[02:45:22] <tlhiv_laptop>	i'm just glad to be able to add raw html code into the wiki itself
[02:45:42] <tlhiv_laptop>	i haven't convinced myself yet (although you told me) that only Sysops can do this
[02:49:13] <Skizzerz>	well, the way RawMsg works is that it requires you to insert the code in the MediaWiki namespace, which only sysops can edit
[02:49:42] <Skizzerz>	of course, any user that has editing permissions can USE the pre-made code, but only sysops can change the code/create new code
[02:50:47] <Skizzerz>	tlhiv_laptop: ^ does that settle your concerns?
[03:09:27] <CIA-6>	03brion * r31086 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: 
[03:09:27] <CIA-6>	Fix rendering of filepageexists message. Previously was incorrectly raw HTML,
[03:09:27] <CIA-6>	with a misspelled "parseinline" setting. Then that was removed. Then the
[03:09:27] <CIA-6>	"parseinline" was returned, spelled correctly. However since the parameter *is*
[03:09:27] <CIA-6>	a raw HTML link currently, had to add 'replaceafter'
[03:15:27] <AaronSchulz>	brion: mmmm :)
[03:49:11] <tlhiv_laptop>	what's the easiest way to list a particular user's contributions to the wiki?
[03:49:28] <tlhiv_laptop>	i.e., edits, new pages, etc.
[03:50:57] <amidaniel>	tlhiv_laptop: Special:Contributions
[03:51:07] <tlhiv_laptop>	nice
[03:52:17] <tlhiv_laptop>	i get a "No target"
[03:55:19] <tlhiv_laptop>	had to apped /user
[04:08:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Namespace translations for Laos - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12848  (10passawuth)
[04:13:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Namespace translations for Laos - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12848  (10passawuth)
[04:39:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make a page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13063 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ruhrfisch)
[04:42:41] <AaronSchulz>	tlhiv_laptop: only for old MW versions
[04:54:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make a page or pages for unwatched Biographies of Living Persons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13064 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (ruhrfisch)
[05:13:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Request_layout_change_on_editing_buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13065 major; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (3tx38k)
[05:18:16] <newrkv>	i keep getting this error while trying to upload images to wiki....  The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver.
[05:18:29] <newrkv>	i dont know which folder this is, it does not give a path
[05:21:30] <newrkv>	anyone
[05:22:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request_layout_change_on_editing_buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13065  (103tx38k)
[05:27:09] <Nakon>	does anyone know the easiest way to add ~150 accounts to mediawiki aside from registering them by hand?
[05:32:35] <avar>	tell your computer to do it for you (by programming it)
[05:42:40] <newrkv>	does anyone know where i can get CharInsert.i18n.php
[05:42:42] <newrkv>	CharInsert.i18n.php
[05:43:44] <OverlordQ>	by downloading the charinsert extension
[05:49:00] <newrkv>	i did, but it only downloads one file. i install it like i should, then when i go to special:specialpages, i get an error
[05:49:07] <newrkv>	Warning: MessageCache::require(/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/extensions/CharInsert.i18n.php) [function.MessageCache-require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/includes/MessageCache.php on line 699
[05:49:08] <newrkv>	Fatal error: MessageCache::require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/extensions/CharInsert.i18n.php' (include_path='/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki:/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/includes:/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/nautf.com/httpdocs/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/
[05:49:12] <newrkv>	thats the error
[05:49:18] <newrkv>	sorry for flooding the page
[05:50:10] <newrkv>	when i remove the line from localsettings.php, i can get through just fine
[05:53:44] <MZMcBride>	timichal: ping?
[05:54:42] <timichal>	not me, I suppose
[05:54:56] <MZMcBride>	i was looking for an admin on incubator
[05:55:03] <MZMcBride>	seems an IP is vandalizing nastily
[05:55:07] <timichal>	oh
[05:55:10] <newrkv>	its not me
[05:55:13] <timichal>	will check
[05:55:14] <newrkv>	i posted that
[05:55:17] <MZMcBride>	Pathoschild's got it, i think
[05:55:28] <timichal>	darn :)
[05:55:31] <newrkv>	those arent errors here, it was a message so someone could help me on that error that i get in my site
[05:55:32] <newrkv>	lol
[05:55:37] <newrkv>	call off the dogs
[05:55:38] <newrkv>	;)
[05:56:15] <CharlieHuggard>	newrkv: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CharInsert/  It seems the extension page doesn't link to both files, but you should always check the folder for an extension that you get out of SVN
[05:58:13] <newrkv>	OMG! your a life saver... sorry for such noob things, but i am
[05:58:14] <newrkv>	;)
[06:07:57] <CIA-6>	03shinjiman * r31087 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): 
[06:07:57] <CIA-6>	* Update Chinese translations
[06:07:57] <CIA-6>	* Update Cantonese translations
[06:07:57] <CIA-6>	* Update Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese translations
[06:08:18] <Nikerabbit>	morning
[06:10:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) dumpHTML output have wrong relative paths to math, images, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13061  -shell  (10jeluf)
[06:25:51] <MZMcBride>	!defaultsettings
[06:25:51] --mwbot--	For the current version of DefaultSettings.php, see: <http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php?view=markup>.
[06:35:11] <MrZ-man>	what was that for?
[06:35:56] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: heh, that Muhammad pic is sure causing a ruckus
[06:36:23] <TimStarling>	on wikien-l? or just everywhere
[06:36:25] <AaronSchulz>	well, I made my comment to the list
[06:36:31] <AaronSchulz>	wikien-l
[06:36:35] <Splarka>	MrZ: some people use mwbot to link themselves, they are called lazy
[06:36:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't edit pages under IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12589  -ipv6 ; +comment (10overlordq)
[06:36:46] <AaronSchulz>	as well as random internet blogs and the petition
[06:37:04] <MrZ-man>	nah, I've typed wikilinks into channels to create a link for myself
[06:38:25] <MrZ-man>	AaronSchulz: and the 1300 messages sent to OTRS
[06:40:23] <AaronSchulz>	;)
[06:40:47] <MrZ-man>	though quite a few were in support of keeping them
[06:41:06] <MrZ-man>	especially after Fox News ran the story
[06:48:55] <brion>	ok this frickin' rocks
[06:49:02] <brion>	http://www-jpc.physics.ox.ac.uk/Demo2.html <- java applet x86 emulator
[06:52:26] *Splarka 	wonders if there is a DOS java interpreter...
[06:53:23] <Splarka>	(that would run this, that is, mmmm loopy)
[06:53:23] *jeremyb 	wonders if Splarka cares enough to port it
[06:53:53] <brion>	well there was java runtime for windows 3.1 iirc ... :D
[06:54:10] <jeremyb>	the bottom of brion's link did mention java 1.6...
[06:54:19] *jeremyb 	didn't catch what for though
[06:54:23] *jeremyb 	sleeps
[06:55:33] <brion>	they claim it runs in 1.4
[06:58:49] <McCormack>	Brion: I emailed you about commit access. Perhaps you haven't seen it yet. Should I just post the SubPageList3 extension as an attachment in a Bugzilla request, or should I wait and get it uploaded to SVN?
[06:59:03] <brion>	go ahead and put it on bugzilla if you like
[06:59:25] <McCormack>	OK.
[07:06:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Requesting rewritten subpagelist extension for Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13066 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; (mccormack)
[07:07:34] *MZMcBride 	stabs Splarka for insulting laziness and the bot :p
[07:18:20] <Splarka>	wow, so mentioning your laziness or the bot is insulting?
[07:18:39] <Splarka>	better start a petition to have it striken from ami's logs ^_^
[07:29:09] *Werdna 	waves
[07:41:37] <flo__>	what hook can i use for an action i want to do for every page, using the page title?
[07:42:21] <flo__>	ArticleFromTitle is called also on Monobook.css etc for each page
[07:47:47] <vi390>	hello, I try to get more informations about "how mediawiki is saving content of the pages" and "how the revision system works"  are there documents describing that somewhere ?
[08:00:30] <faceface>	by default pages in a category are broken down by the first letter of the page. To change that behaviour, shoudl I, A) Add a magic word to the cateogry page, B) tweek a global parameter setting somewhere, C) install an extension, D) hack the source code, E) all of the above?
[08:00:49] <faceface>	vi390: look on mediawiki.org
[08:01:11] <hashar>	[[Category:Foobar|A]] will show the article "Foobar" under "A"
[08:01:13] <faceface>	flo__: hooks are triggered by events
[08:01:35] <faceface>	hashar: yes, but I want [[Category:Foobar|09]] to show the article under 09
[08:02:01] <faceface>	sorry, I just realized my question isn't specific about what I want to change
[08:03:30] <Splarka>	you want category sorting to encompass the first two letters?
[08:05:11] <faceface>	Splarka: no, I want the category breakdown page to list pages by their first two letters
[08:05:34] <faceface>	so pages in category 2008 are broken down into 01 (january), 02 (febuary), etc
[08:05:59] *Splarka 	thinks he asked the same thing
[08:06:19] <faceface>	I know how to 'index' pages so that they appear in the correct order in the cateogry, but every month from january to september is stuck under the heading '0' - which is less than usefull
[08:06:27] <faceface>	Splarka: how do you mean?
[08:07:26] <faceface>	Splarka: I am sure it is possible given option A to E, but I have no idea which or where to start
[08:07:43] <faceface>	that is kinda the reason newbies ask questions.
[08:07:50] <faceface>	which is kinda why irc exists
[08:09:12] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Rearrange_categories
[08:09:16] <Splarka>	possibly
[08:09:49] <Splarka>	a breadcrumb anyway
[08:10:36] <faceface>	thanks Splarka 
[08:11:25] <Splarka>	but do you just want the breakdown to list the first two characters, or do you want the category's member list to actually be /sorted/ by them?
[08:11:38] <faceface>	breakdown 
[08:11:52] <Splarka>	you could probably do that with some javascript then (icky)
[08:11:57] <faceface>	yikes
[08:12:16] <faceface>	I mean... the single letter breakdown code must be in there somewhere... 
[08:12:36] <faceface>	I looked at every category extension categorized...
[08:12:49] <faceface>	nothing talks about adding special behaviour to the breakdown
[08:13:33] <faceface>	but I never saw the help desk before... I'll post my signature question;
[08:13:36] <faceface>	By default, pages in a category are broken down by the first letter of the page title (or the first letter of the category index). To change that behaviour, for example to break down pages by the first two letters of the page title, shoudl I, A) Add a magic word to the cateogry page, B) tweek a global parameter setting somewhere, C) install an extension, D) hack the source code, E) all of...
[08:13:38] <faceface>	...the above?
[08:14:45] <faceface>	where is the manual page dealing with categories?
[08:16:05] <faceface>	Help:Categories, (Redirected from Categories) - but aparently not linked from anywhere!
[08:17:26] <hashar>	faceface: if you are willing to hack mediawiki, I can find you the place where the cat break down is done
[08:18:08] <faceface>	I'll give it a go - I would like to do it in a 'nice' way if possible, for example in response to some magic word in the category page...
[08:19:28] <hashar>	any way, the whole category displaying stuff is in includes/CategoryPage.php
[08:21:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Requesting rewritten subpagelist extension for Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13066   +need-review +patch (10pathoschild)
[08:21:44] <faceface>	includes/CategoryPage.php Gotcha
[08:22:03] <vi390>	is there any information about in which format the data in Table text.old_text (Which is Mediumblob) is stored
[08:22:33] <faceface>	vi390: look at some data?
[08:23:43] <hashar>	vi390: should be utf-8
[08:25:32] <vi390>	hasbar: I meant the Dataformat, not the encodingformat ;-)
[08:25:54] <vi390>	eg. XML
[08:26:48] <faceface>	it is CVS diff format?
[08:27:00] <deepali>	in mediawiki how to link a image to url?
[08:27:29] <jesubatta>	how to link an image say for ex i have abc.gif if i click on image it should to link to abc.com
[08:27:44] <Splarka>	deepali: three ways
[08:27:45] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages
[08:27:46] <faceface>	deepali: you can't by default
[08:28:00] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[08:28:02] <Splarka>	or css
[08:39:07] <Ron56>	hie
[08:53:43] <Pathoschild>	What is the {{#imagemap:}} syntax that the en-Wikipedia Signpost mentions? I can't find any mention of it on the ImageMap or TagParser or ParserFunction extension pages, or in the magic word help page.
[08:58:40] <jelle>	Pathoschild: there are 3 versions mentioned from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix. I tried some of those, couldn't get them to work, but finally choose the Icon extension which works fine.
[08:58:47] <Raymond_afk>	Pathoschild: it's an alternative syntax for all <tags>.
[08:59:08] <_wooz>	lo
[08:59:49] <Raymond_afk>	Pathoschild: with <tags> you cannot use {{PAGENAME}} & co. but it works with {{#tag:}}. only on projects where the new parser is live
[09:00:49] <Raymond_afk>	Pathoschild: correction: it should read {{#tag:imagemap|...}}
[09:00:57] <Pathoschild>	The basic syntax is the same? For example, {{#imagemap:}} parameters are still delimited with line breaks?
[09:01:20] <Pathoschild>	{{#tag:imagemap|...}}*. :)
[09:01:52] <Raymond_afk>	Pathoschild: it's based on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser but in core now
[09:02:06] <Pathoschild>	:D
[09:05:20] <Pathoschild>	Thanks. :)
[09:06:10] <Raymond_afk>	you are welcome :)
[09:11:10] <talcite>	hi guys, I'm trying to get templates on mediawiki, is that possible? i.e. a form to fill out for one type of article, a different one for a different type
[09:20:30] <noclue>	Hi.  I have a nicely working MediaWiki 1.11 install, and ShortURL enabled (see http://rafb.net/p/Gu1GJg33.html for the config).  Everything is working nicely except I cannot use the MediaWiki api.  What do i need to do to exclude api.php from the rewrite?
[09:32:20] <flyingparchment>	noclue: since $wgScriptPath and $wgArticlePath are different, /w/api.php shouldn't be getting rewritten.  what problem are you having?
[09:36:11] <noclue>	Basically, I cannot do any API calls at all.  If I try something simple like $BASE_URL/wiki/api.php, instead of getting the api documentation page (like I do an a test wiki running 1.10 without ShortURL enabled) the Wiki thinks I want to edit Api.php
[09:36:28] <flyingparchment>	use /w/api.php, not /wiki/api.php
[09:36:35] <flyingparchment>	like index.php, it's a PHP script, not an article
[09:36:57] <noclue>	ah ok....
[09:37:07] <noclue>	I knew it had to be something simple
[09:37:09] <noclue>	that works.
[09:37:32] <noclue>	thank you for pointing the obvious to me... sometimes I think i have been staring at this Wiki for far too long :-)
[09:45:44] <newrkv>	is anyone in tonight?
[09:48:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New log Special:Log/create - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13067 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (saibot834)
[09:49:38] *newrkv 	sings
[09:49:48] *newrkv 	all by myself
[09:49:54] *newrkv 	dont wanna be, all by myself
[09:49:55] <newrkv>	lol
[09:57:54] <Kuba_>	Hello. Does anyone know how to modify mediawiki so that the "create account" page forces users to type in an email address?
[09:57:58] <alpaco>	open_basedir restriction in effect on my server and when installing mediawiki i get the following error:
[09:58:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Problem with Special:Import - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 04BLOCKER; high; MediaWiki: Special pages; (moissinac)
[09:59:28] <alpaco>	http://p3m.org/pef/337?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
[09:59:39] <alpaco>	what's wrong?
[10:00:25] <newrkv>	can anyone give me any tips on my main page of my wiki?
[10:00:27] <newrkv>	http://www.nautf.com/mkportal/modules/mediawiki/index.php5/NAUTF_Wiki
[10:05:54] <newrkv>	anyone
[10:07:46] <jelle>	I can't get my wiki to accept png's. I have $wgFileExtensions set correctly, but it still complains about invalid file or invalid extension. any hints?
[10:08:12] <Dashiva>	png should work out of the box, shouldn't it?
[10:08:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem with Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068  +comment (10kalan.001)
[10:18:53] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) New log Special:Log/create - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13067  +comment (10lejonel)
[10:18:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Introduce article creation log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10331  +comment (10lejonel)
[10:19:28] <jelle>	well, it doesn't even want to upload the standard Wikipedia logo
[10:22:13] <Tolsome>	hallo everyone :)
[10:22:47] <Tolsome>	I have a little question. How can I change the background color? (default: white)
[10:29:45] <jimpy>	Tolsome: its done in the CSS for the theme
[10:29:58] <jimpy>	look in styles/moonbook
[10:30:11] <Tolsome>	I have my own skin
[10:30:27] <Tolsome>	  #gumax-page {
[10:30:29] <Tolsome>	        background: #fff;
[10:30:31] <Tolsome>	        background: transparent url('images/gumaxcomheader.jpg') center top repeat-y; /* page side background */
[10:30:32] <Tolsome>	        }
[10:30:42] <Tolsome>	that is the line, but nothing change
[10:31:02] <flyingparchment>	that seems like an html question more than a mediawiki question
[10:31:05] <jimpy>	#fff is not a valid color
[10:31:25] <flyingparchment>	i suspect you can't have a background that is transparent and has a colour
[10:31:33] <flyingparchment>	(perhaps 'background: #fff url(....' will work)
[10:32:03] <jimpy>	idd, try disabling transparent too.
[10:33:00] <Tolsome>	http://sim.preblue.com/index.php/Hauptseite
[10:33:02] <Tolsome>	no...nothing different >.<
[10:33:55] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Can't edit pages under IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12589  +comment (10sicaral)
[10:35:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem with Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13068  (10moissinac)
[10:35:36] <Tolsome>	boar...mediawiki is the stranges code I ever see.
[10:35:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't edit pages under IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12589  +comment (10river)
[10:43:04] <jimpy>	Its not strange, its just very dynamic
[10:43:53] <jimpy>	Tolsome, Have you tried viewing the source for the page in question and reading where the background properties are defined?
[10:44:10] <jimpy>	is it defined twice?
[10:44:38] <Tolsome>	I see there are nothing for the background color defined
[10:44:53] <Tolsome>	in the skin
[10:45:16] <jimpy>	progress, if its a skin youve specified does your web server have rights to read it?
[10:45:24] <Tolsome>	yes
[10:46:15] <jimpy>	are you sure you modifying the correct file? Cross reference it with the CSS reference in the Rendered view
[10:46:51] <Tolsome>	I see this code, that I copy to you, make shadows arround the header
[10:47:22] <Tolsome>	there are no code for the background color. I think this is default
[10:48:18] <jimpy>	is it a page thats world accessable? can i see it?
[10:48:40] <Tolsome>	sure, http://sim.preblue.com
[10:50:27] <jimpy>	bug alert.
[10:50:37] <jimpy>	search for http://sim.preblue.com
[10:50:40] <jimpy>	sry
[10:50:44] <jimpy>	<style type="text/css">/*<![CDATA[*/
[10:50:54] <Tolsome>	hm?
[10:51:05] <jimpy>	its not properly importing your Common.css file
[10:51:18] <Tolsome>	what you mean?
[10:52:12] <jimpy>	look through your code and youll see what i mean
[10:52:23] <Werdna>	TimStarling: This page is out of date now, right? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MediaWiki_parameter_bug -- I think what it's referring to is bug 5678
[10:52:38] <Tolsome>	sorry, but I don't understand what you mean now
[10:53:22] <jimpy>	On the last few lines of your header near </head> there is invalid html.
[10:53:39] <jimpy>	ill pastebin it
[10:53:51] <flyingparchment>	that import looks fine to me..
[10:54:12] <Tolsome>	pastebin?
[10:54:29] <Tolsome>	(uff, My English is not the best...)
[10:54:59] <jimpy>	flyingparchment but does it work with css files?
[10:55:08] <flyingparchment>	does what work?
[10:55:10] <jimpy>	i didnt think it did
[10:55:16] <jimpy>	the imports
[10:55:27] <flyingparchment>	@import is a CSS directive, so yes, it will work with css
[10:55:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SVG rendering and image uploads - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13069 major; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (verbinurnoun)
[10:55:37] <jimpy>	aha i stand corrected,
[10:57:08] <Tolsome>	nothing change...
[10:59:00] <Tolsome>	>.< ( I work now three days on this wiki....)
[10:59:08] <Tolsome>	*worked
[11:00:01] <Tolsome>	that can not be possible, that a little colourchange is so extrem difficult!
[11:02:39] <jimpy>	have you tried splitting the background: in to background-color: and background-image: ?
[11:02:58] <Tolsome>	no
[11:03:21] <Tolsome>	I find not the line, where is the background colour
[11:03:42] <Tolsome>	I take now there points and all make nothing
[11:05:39] <piksi>	how come in the backup sql of my wiki db the page strings lack all the wikisyntax formatting?
[11:08:50] <flyingparchment>	piksi: the "page strings"?
[11:12:20] <piksi>	flyingparchment: the only cleartext versions of the page entries in the database reside in searchindex but they lack wikisyntax, is there a way to extract the cleartext versions of the pages *with* wikisyntax?
[11:13:13] <flyingparchment>	piksi: searchindex is only for searching.  you probably want the text table
[11:13:40] <jimpy>	Tolsome: they dont exist yet from what i can see youll have to create them
[11:13:44] <piksi>	i dumped a backup of the whole database with phpmyadmin
[11:14:05] <Tolsome>	yes, I think so too
[11:14:11] <Tolsome>	and I created one
[11:14:17] <Tolsome>	but....
[11:14:22] <Tolsome>	don't work
[11:14:27] <Tolsome>	*crying*
[11:14:47] <Tolsome>	 body {
[11:14:48] <Tolsome>	        font-size: 11px;
[11:14:50] <Tolsome>	        margin: 0; padding: 0;
[11:14:52] <Tolsome>	        min-width:  740px;
[11:14:53] <Tolsome>		 background: #DDDDDD url('images/gumax_grey.gif') left 0 repeat-x;   /* site background */
[11:15:38] <jimpy>	Tolsome what is the name of the css file your editing?
[11:15:38] <piksi>	flyingparchment: the text table seems to be full of hex numbers (hashes?) 
[11:15:43] <piksi>	and nothing more
[11:15:54] <Tolsome>	gumax_template.css
[11:15:58] <flyingparchment>	piksi: that's because you're viewing it in a program which treats blobs as binary data.  look at it as text data, which it is
[11:16:25] <piksi>	flyingparchment: nano and cat aren't such? ;-)
[11:17:24] <jimpy>	tolsome: erk... i dont see that included anywhere...
[11:17:27] <Tolsome>	that is the skin: http://paulgu.com/wiki/Image:Sgumax-3-1.png
[11:18:05] <jimpy>	oh wait yes it is
[11:20:54] <piksi>	flyingparchment: as far as i can see it's hexes in ascii format and not a binary file
[11:21:16] <flyingparchment>	piksi: that's what i said. phpmyadmin is stupid and probably dumps it as hex
[11:21:34] <flyingparchment>	(phpmyadmin is also incapable of dumping the mediawiki database if it includes non-ASCII characters, so be careful)
[11:25:44] <piksi>	flyingparchment: ok thanks for clearing it out. would you have any hint of how to convert the hexes back into ascii?
[11:25:57] <flyingparchment>	dump with mysqldump instead
[11:26:00] <flyingparchment>	or just import into a database
[11:26:13] <flyingparchment>	or take a backup with maintenance/dumpBackup.php, which will produce XML
[11:31:45] <piksi>	flyingparchment: ok thank you
[11:37:05] <Tolsome>	and?
[11:40:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) robots.txt -- exclude ro:VfD - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12546  normal->high; +comment (10bogdan.stancescu)
[11:44:41] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[12:06:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Length of title can only be 255 chars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13057  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[12:40:19] <ravindranathakil>	Does anyone now how to remove the unwanted text in custom button tips
[12:40:21] <ravindranathakil>	?
[12:41:18] <ravindranathakil>	For example, I create a new button for my edit pages. When I give the tool tips, it shows two characters on either side of it
[12:41:28] <ravindranathakil>	I need to remove them
[12:44:56] <Isnogud>	ravindranathakil: do you have a link?
[12:46:02] <ravindranathakil>	Ah no
[12:46:09] <ravindranathakil>	Because I'm still setting up the site
[12:46:38] <ravindranathakil>	It gives somethin like "&gtInsert Imagegt&"
[12:46:51] <ravindranathakil>	The two gt's on eitherside are the problem
[12:47:39] <Isnogud>	Could you give one example wiki markup that you used for the tool tips?
[12:48:08] <ravindranathakil>	Sure
[12:48:57] <ravindranathakil>	array(     'image'=>'button_bold.png',
[12:48:57] <ravindranathakil>	        'open'  =>   "\'\'\'",
[12:48:57] <ravindranathakil>	        'close' =>   "\'\'\'",
[12:48:58] <ravindranathakil>	        'sample'=>   wfMsg('bold_sample'),
[12:48:58] <ravindranathakil>	        'tip'   =>   wfMsg('bold_tip'),
[12:49:01] <ravindranathakil>	        'key'   =>   'B'
[12:49:03] <ravindranathakil>	),
[12:49:15] <ravindranathakil>	I used the same as the mediawiki site told
[12:49:29] <ravindranathakil>	I'm using 1.11.1
[12:50:24] <Isnogud>	Could you point me to the site that you mendtioned?
[12:50:50] <ravindranathakil>	One moment
[12:51:25] <ravindranathakil>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Customizing_edit_toolbar#Example
[12:53:31] <Nikerabbit>	ör
[12:53:59] <Nikerabbit>	what's in 'tip'?
[12:54:44] <ravindranathakil>	It shows two sets of characters on eitherside of the tooltip
[12:55:09] <ravindranathakil>	When we edit anypage in wiki, as we go to the edit page and have a mouse over on the buttons
[12:55:19] <ravindranathakil>	I meant the baloon tips that come up there
[12:55:27] <Nikerabbit>	is it wfMsg( 'Insert Image' ) ?
[12:56:01] <ravindranathakil>	Yes
[12:56:17] <ravindranathakil>	I mean
[12:56:24] <ravindranathakil>	When I make a custom button
[12:57:23] <Nikerabbit>	do you know what wfMsg does?
[12:57:31] <ravindranathakil>	No
[12:57:50] <ravindranathakil>	Could you please brief me?
[12:58:54] <ravindranathakil>	I also needed to know one other thing. How do I make searches default to a custom namespace? It doen't seem to work properly
[13:00:26] <ravindranathakil>	Nikerabbit, could you please inform me of somewhere I can learn about mediawiki indepth?
[13:00:35] <ravindranathakil>	I would be very greatful
[13:00:57] <Nikerabbit>	arfgh
[13:01:07] <ravindranathakil>	?
[13:01:12] <ravindranathakil>	arfgh?
[13:01:26] <Nikerabbit>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages is maybe the closest we have documentation
[13:02:17] <ravindranathakil>	Thanks
[13:02:40] <ravindranathakil>	Someday, if the wiki goes out of limit of the hard disk what do I do?
[13:03:02] <ravindranathakil>	For example, alot of images uploaded and database largely expanded
[13:03:34] <ravindranathakil>	Is it easy to port to a multi server environment?
[13:13:17] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31088 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (12 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-02-19 14:10 CET)
[13:14:46] <faceface>	woop! did it by hacking the firstChar function in the ./languages/Language.php file
[13:14:49] <faceface>	its messy
[13:15:10] <faceface>	where is the help desk again? I want to post my hack in response to my question
[13:16:13] <faceface>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk
[13:19:33] <faceface>	any feedback on my suggestion would be welcome... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Category_page.2C_contents_breakdown
[13:22:14] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31089 10/trunk/extensions/ (72 files in 69 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-02-19 14:10 CET)
[13:22:35] <faceface>	actually, two character category breakdown is bettter than single character, and should now be the default on all wikies for all time.
[13:22:47] <faceface>	are you listening to me MW gods?! curse you!!!!
[13:26:11] *faceface 	wanters off staring at the sky and shaking fists
[13:26:48] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31090 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: Partial revert of r31089 to put back changed from r31085
[13:28:48] <Nikerabbit>	ugh
[13:28:56] <Nikerabbit>	why would we want two character breakdown
[13:30:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow Special: Unwatchedpages to display the list of pages by prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13062  summary; +comment (10danny_b)
[13:32:17] <faceface>	Nikerabbit: its better
[13:32:32] <faceface>	especially for pages in a 'year' category, indexed by month
[13:32:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13063  summary (10danny_b)
[13:32:51] <Nikerabbit>	it could be better, it could be worse
[13:33:12] <faceface>	yeah, I am only joking about it *IS* better... looks nice on my wiki
[13:35:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special page to list unwatched pages in such category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13064  summary; +comment (10danny_b)
[13:36:29] <faceface>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Category_page.2C_contents_breakdown Suggestions?
[13:38:12] <Nikerabbit>	for what?
[13:40:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG rendering and image uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13069  (10danny_b)
[13:40:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901  (10danny_b)
[13:40:33] <Asga>	hi there
[13:40:48] <Nikerabbit>	hi
[13:41:16] <Asga>	i couldn't solve my problem with my classes
[13:41:31] <Asga>	i have something like
[13:43:01] <Asga>	$myclass = new myclass(); $wgHooks['ArticleSave'][] = array($myclass, 'myfunction');
[13:43:17] <Nikerabbit>	and?
[13:43:31] <Asga>	but when i use $this->someotherfunction(); in myfunction, it says call to a member function on non-object ...
[13:43:32] <Asga>	?
[13:44:03] <Asga>	but i thought that the hook calls $myclass->myfunction(); 
[13:44:09] <Asga>	shouldn't it be an object?
[13:44:32] <Asga>	or am i again confusing myself 
[13:45:34] <Nikerabbit>	weird
[13:46:20] <Asga>	okay so it should be right?
[13:46:34] <Nikerabbit>	so you have class myclass { function myfunction() { $this->foo(); } function foo() {...} }?
[13:47:59] <Asga>	yes
[13:47:59] <Asga>	and
[13:48:07] <Asga>	myfunction is called by a hook 
[13:48:37] <Nikerabbit>	weird, can't figure out anything now
[13:48:59] <Asga>	ok thanks anyway
[13:49:05] <CIA-6>	03gri6507 * r31091 10/trunk/extensions/WhiteList/ (4 files): 
[13:49:05] <CIA-6>	v0.7
[13:49:05] <CIA-6>	* restrict Special:WhiteList to only restricted user (it makes no sense to see what pages a user is restricted to when they are NOT restricted)
[13:49:05] <CIA-6>	* fix a bug when viewing other people's WhiteList
[13:49:05] <CIA-6>	* fix a bug to properly display links to WhiteListed categories
[13:50:41] <Isnogud>	Asga: did you try var_dump($this);exit; in myfunction?
[13:50:58] <Asga>	no
[13:51:18] <Asga>	wait a sec
[13:51:19] <Asga>	i try
[13:54:39] <Asga>	oh well
[13:54:41] <Asga>	it works now
[13:54:54] <Isnogud>	funny. what happened?
[13:55:07] <Asga>	maybe it was a typing error..
[13:55:32] <Asga>	but i thought it must have been something bigger...
[13:56:11] <Asga>	because it didn't work recently when there was no typo 
[13:56:25] <Asga>	sorry about that 
[13:56:31] <Asga>	but im glad that it works now
[14:01:58] <faceface>	Suggestions about Nikerabbit 
[14:05:16] <Sundance_Raphael>	hi
[14:11:35] <noclue>	This is a bit of a tough one to describe, but I am hoping that there is an easy-ish solution.  I recently did a major upgrade to a live MediaWiki.  We went from 1.6.4 to 1.11. In the process of getting the 1.11 install to behave like the 1.6.4 install with respect to the ShortURL (to get $WIKI_ROOT/wiki/$WIKI_PAGE syntax) a few things had to be changed... specifically, the $wgScriptPath was...
[14:11:37] <noclue>	...changed from /mwiki to just /w  For some reason I could not get it to work at all using /mwiki but it worked first try when I changed it to /w.  The result though is that people who have linked to script pages at /mwiki/ are no longer getting valid pages.  This makes sense... but... how do i solve it?  Is there an easy way to redirect the old /mwiki requests over to /w?
[14:15:17] <jakobbg>	Is there any predefined tags which can give me "article of the day" or something like that?
[14:16:28] <jakobbg>	tried searching around somewhat, but have not found anything like that yet. any advice on how to get randomly selected content/articles would be highly appreciated.
[14:16:31] <faceface>	noclue: what does /mwiki turn up?
[14:17:00] <faceface>	jakobbg: you can use DPL to randomly select articles in a category (or by other criteria), but its hard ot use
[14:17:02] <faceface>	to use
[14:17:14] <faceface>	try searching extensions for 'featured article'?
[14:18:13] <noclue>	faceface: /mwiki generates a File not found in the error_log.... which is correct since it doesn't exist.  If I take the URL that is generating the File not found error and replace /mwiki with /w and reload the requested page is loaded as expected
[14:19:18] <faceface>	noclue: apache alias?
[14:19:32] <faceface>	or 'forwarding' rule?
[14:19:35] <faceface>	look at apache
[14:21:02] <noclue>	The settings are here http://rafb.net/p/VOxVuW52.html
[14:21:30] <noclue>	I could change the first Alias... and then $wgScriptPath to be /mwiki but... when I last did that ShortURL stopped working
[14:24:31] <noclue>	I am willing to try again with teh /mwiki alias, but wanted to ask someone who might have some insight into this thing first.. Getting ShortURL to work on 1.11 was a 2 week exercise in going bald
[14:24:50] <noclue>	Now that it works, I am a bit gunshy to tinker with it.
[14:28:01] <noclue>	but.. I talked myself into it.... and it seems to work.
[14:28:17] <noclue>	so... nevermind... I think I might have resolved the issue now.
[14:31:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request layout change on editing buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13065  summary (10roan.kattouw)
[14:31:51] <noclue>	Then again, maybe not... since this is a live and active wiki, changing the alias from /w to /mwiki just changes the error over from  one to the other... now it's finding the /mwiki path, but erroring on not finding /w
[14:40:27] <josch>	hi! I have enwiki running at home and installed parserfunctions and cite extension but there is still one thing I wonder about:
[14:41:41] <josch>	there are html tags in the source that get shown in the output because they use &gt; and &lt;
[14:42:08] <josch>	so I get output like: <tr><th style="white-space:nowrap;background:#ddddff;text-align:right;">1901-1925</th>
[14:42:15] <Platonides>	you don't have tidy enabled
[14:42:21] <Platonides>	so the parsing differs
[14:42:28] <josch>	tidy?
[14:42:46] <Platonides>	you can use tidy with mediawiki
[14:43:20] <josch>	how do I enable it?
[14:43:22] <Platonides>	if mediawiki know tidy will clean the html, the parsing route is a bit different
[14:44:03] <Platonides>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseTidy
[14:44:12] <josch>	Platonides, thx!
[14:44:36] <jakobbg>	hmm, i'll include that as well :)
[14:52:09] <jakobbg>	sweet
[14:52:31] <jakobbg>	faceface: it turned out to be too complicated for me ATM, but thank you anyhow.
[14:52:45] <jakobbg>	Platonides: thanks for the tip!
[15:01:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) shared file repository (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4243  (10raimond.spekking)
[15:01:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The default MediaWiki: Sharedupload text does not link to the shared repository (e.g. Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10677  (10raimond.spekking)
[15:01:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make MediaWiki: Sharedupload point to Commons with lang setting of that wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10827  (10raimond.spekking)
[15:22:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (guillom.pom)
[15:53:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Can't edit pages under IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12589  +comment (10jeroen)
[15:56:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) playing some theora videos doesn' t work with cortado and java 1.6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13071 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (helmutpozimski)
[16:29:41] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r31092 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
[16:29:41] <CIA-6>	* (bug 10677) Add link to the file description page on the shared repository
[16:29:41] <CIA-6>	The existing message 'sharedupload' does not has a link to the shared repository. A lot of WMF projects has modified it locally but for their content language only.
[16:29:41] <CIA-6>	That means, all users with another user language does not profit from the modification.
[16:29:41] <CIA-6>	Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:test.jpg?uselang=en and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:test.jpg?uselang=eo
[16:29:46] <CIA-6>	New message 'shareduploadwiki-desc' introduced. This can be set to '-' by local sysops to suppress the message if 'sharedupload' has a link already.
[16:30:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) The default MediaWiki: Sharedupload text does not link to the shared repository (e.g. Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10677  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[16:41:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  +comment (10huji.huji)
[16:44:00] <CIA-6>	03yaron * r31093 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/ (13 files in 4 dirs): New extension: Data Transfer
[16:44:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow from parameter on Special:Unwatchedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12272  (10huji.huji)
[16:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Indicate number of users watching a page for privileged users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10753  (10huji.huji)
[16:47:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[16:47:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request layout change on editing buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13065  +comment (10huji.huji)
[16:51:19] <CIA-6>	03rotem * r31094 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[16:57:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) refs fail to parse the piped link trick - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13072 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dogma)
[17:00:22] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) refs fail to parse the piped link trick - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13072  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:00:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2700  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:01:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ref might add a newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13073 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dogma)
[17:03:46] <sir-knight>	heya guys... I have a few questions about setting up a wiki on my site
[17:03:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  (10guillom.pom)
[17:04:40] <sir-knight>	can I limit who can edit articles I post? I want to be the only one who can edit/post new content, but I want to allow people to be able to comment it
[17:04:48] <sir-knight>	or is there a way I can review suggested changes by people?
[17:05:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ref might add a newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13073  (10dogma)
[17:08:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ref might add a newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13073  (10raimond.spekking)
[17:10:45] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31095 10/trunk/extensions/ (11 files in 5 dirs): 
[17:10:46] <CIA-6>	* set eol-style:native for DataTransfer files
[17:10:46] <CIA-6>	* fix EOL whitespace and remove unneeded "?>" in .php files
[17:10:46] <CIA-6>	* add descriptionmsg for DataTransfer
[17:10:46] <CIA-6>	* add support for DataTransfer to Translate
[17:17:05] <Jack_Phoenix>	hoi brion :-)
[17:23:49] <sir-knight>	nobody awake I take it ._.
[17:27:43] <Agony>	could someone please do https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12882 ? fiwiki community had start bugging me with "when-how" questions...
[17:33:17] <dcrochet>	Hello, question : I want to add a text on all image upload on a wiki (in image: namespace) (but this text must no appear on a image which already uplaod on Commons:). I would, in fact, the opposite of [[mediawiki:sharedupload]]. Is it possible ?
[17:47:19] <Majikkan>	I've been stumped on usage of DPL2 for a while. I have a lot of pages which all use a template (Called 'Character') and all belong to the same category. This template has a variable called 'status'. If I want to use DPL2 to create a list of every one of those pages with a certain status, how would I go about that?
[17:49:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create mailing list for nowiki administrators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13048  +comment (10cbass)
[17:58:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create new mailing list for Urdu wiki's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13052  +comment (10cbass)
[18:08:44] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) "File links" on the image pages should list links from other wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1394  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[18:12:28] <sir-knight>	anyone awake that can answer my question, or point me in the direction to find out?
[18:13:25] <eyaluth>	sir-knight: just ask and see if anybody answers
[18:14:15] <sir-knight>	can I limit who can edit articles I post? I want to be the only one who can edit/post new content, but I want to allow people to be able to comment it or is there a way I can review suggested changes by people? 
[18:14:56] <eyaluth>	sir-knight: you could lock the page and make people reply on the discussion page
[18:15:19] <sir-knight>	cool, I've never really run or used a wiki much before
[18:15:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Revert r30701 to r30654 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13074 15enhancement; high; MediaWiki extensions: Quiz; (mccormack)
[18:16:30] <McCormack>	Sorry - that wasn't an enhancement, it was "normal".
[18:16:50] <brion>	morning all
[18:20:33] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[18:20:43] <McCormack>	Brion: any time to discuss a bug? I'm not sure quite where to look - might have been that revision above (30701) but I'm starting to have doubts. But something broke the extension code recently.
[18:22:45] <brion>	McCormack: doesn't look like it should make a difference
[18:22:55] <brion>	can you add a note on the bug which explains in what way things are 'fouled'?
[18:23:03] <McCormack>	OK.
[18:25:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Revert r30701 to r30654 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13074  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10mccormack)
[18:26:02] <McCormack>	I think revesion is not the issue, though. But something recently happened which stopped it working on WV while it works elsewhere; perhaps a variable conflict? 
[18:28:41] <Majikkan>	And I take it nobody's got any idea about that DPL2 problem. The documentation for that thing makes me want to pull out my hair. :)
[18:32:47] <jimbojw>	Majikkan: i'm not an expert at DPL2, though I have used it - nothing comes to mind
[18:33:04] <jimbojw>	though your problem does lend itself fairly directly to Semantic MediaWiki
[18:33:09] <jimbojw>	in that you're defining attributes on articles
[18:33:32] <jimbojw>	and SMW comes with a query language similar to DPL's for querying its data
[18:36:52] <psymin>	Is there a way for me to manually verify accounts before they are created?
[18:38:11] <ialex>	psymin: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
[18:38:20] <psymin>	many thanks ialex 
[18:40:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Revert r30701 to r30654 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13074  normal->minor; high->normal; +comment (10mccormack)
[18:53:26] <lymeca>	I'm trying to migrate an existing mediawiki installation over to a new machine, both GNU+Linux servers with Apache and PHP
[18:53:48] <lymeca>	However when I try to access wiki/index.php I get this error in my browser:
[18:53:57] <lymeca>	Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required './includes/WebStart.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in wiki/index.php on line 38
[18:54:10] <lymeca>	I have no wiki/includes directory
[18:57:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Revert r30701 to r30654 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13074  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:58:03] <Nikerabbit>	lymeca: at all?
[19:02:23] <lymeca>	Nope
[19:03:06] <lymeca>	Nikerabbit: Actually the Debian package created a /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/
[19:03:24] <lymeca>	I have the latest Debian package for 1.11.1
[19:03:51] <Nikerabbit>	wtf
[19:03:53] <lymeca>	And PHP 5.2.0 and MySQL 5.0.32
[19:04:05] <Nikerabbit>	is this the debian braindamage..?
[19:04:14] *lymeca 	isn't sure
[19:04:20] <Nikerabbit>	you'll need to fix the include paths probably
[19:04:24] <lymeca>	I've not worked with MediaWiki before so I'm still working.
[19:04:29] <lymeca>	Where do I edit the include paths?
[19:04:33] <lymeca>	Rather, where are they specified?
[19:05:03] <Nikerabbit>	no idea
[19:05:43] <Nikerabbit>	could be easier to just do normal install
[19:09:04] <Asga>	LocalSettings.php ?
[19:11:40] <Nikerabbit>	Asga: it's not loaded in that point
[19:11:48] <Asga>	oh okay
[19:11:58] <Asga>	didn't read everything
[19:11:59] <Asga>	sorry
[19:18:24] <sir-knight>	doh... trying to install the wiki, it went smoothly, but it wouldn't let me chmod the localsettings.php 
[19:18:26] <sir-knight>	550 Could not change perms on LocalSettings.php: Bad file descriptor
[19:18:48] <sir-knight>	so I deleted the localsettings.php file after I downloaded a copy, I reuploaded it and chmodded it
[19:18:54] <sir-knight>	and now the wiki doesn't load
[19:24:07] <ialex>	reste, reste pas ? :)
[19:24:15] <ialex>	ow, soory
[19:31:20] <sir-knight>	hmm oh wait... that's cause index.php isn't working... index.php5 is the page
[19:31:25] <sir-knight>	it works ._.
[19:39:39] <quentin_>	hi!
[19:39:44] <quentin_>	tell me about interwiki!
[19:40:18] <ialex>	!interwiki
[19:40:18] --mwbot--	Interwiki links are links between wikis.  For instance, on Wiktionary, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article.  To set up interwiki links, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking> as well as <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki>
[19:40:37] <RickZilla>	Hey everybody...I'm about ready to open up my wiki to our community, and I'm concerned about attracting spambot editors...any info you can pass along to prevent this would be great.  Thanks in advance for your help.
[19:41:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Link to Special:ParserDiffTest broken from Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13075 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (innocentkiller)
[19:41:33] <ialex>	!confirmedit | RickZilla
[19:41:33] --mwbot--	RickZilla: For more information about CAPTCHAs and MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit>.
[19:41:46] <quentin_>	ialex, so first step is simply to install a parallel mediawiki?
[19:42:08] <RickZilla>	Thanks ialex and mwbot...I'll take a look at those
[19:42:16] <ialex>	quentin_: you can link all what you want, don't need to be a wiki
[19:43:05] <quentin_>	ialex, I need a multilingual wiki (i.e: wikipedia, openSuse wiki, ....)
[19:43:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Link to Special:ParserDiffTest broken from Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13075  15enhancement->minor; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[19:43:23] <quentin_>	I simply add for each language a seperate wiki and then use interwiki linking?
[19:43:48] <ialex>	yes
[19:44:19] <quentin_>	ok
[19:45:56] <^demon>	Raymond_: Thanks for closing that. I hadn't tracked down that revision yet.
[19:46:31] <Raymond_>	^demon: I like closing bugs 1 miunte after opening :) and you are welcome  :)
[19:48:09] <sir-knight>	is there a way to show which pages have discussions or is that just a click and find out sort of thing?
[19:51:58] <^demon>	sir-knight: You could check Special:Allpages and sort by talk: namespace.
[19:53:17] <sir-knight>	okay, sorry,  I'm a noob, where do I find that?
[19:53:49] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r31096 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLo.php: 
[19:53:49] <CIA-6>	Localisation updates Lao
[19:53:49] <CIA-6>	(bug 12848) Add namespace translations - the last one.
[19:54:57] <sir-knight>	there's no obvious and obnoxious way to make it default and in your face when you're browsing?
[19:55:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Namespace translations for Laos - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12848  (10raimond.spekking)
[20:02:20] <RickZilla>	Trying to install ConfirmEdit, just got this error message:  Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfLoadExtensionMessages() in... and then it gives the path to the ConfirmEdit_body.php file...any idea where to look to fix this?
[20:03:01] <ialex>	RickZilla: update to 1.11 or use an old version of the extension
[20:03:44] <RickZilla>	Thanks...where do I go to find out what version I'm on?
[20:03:54] <Raymond_>	RickZilla: [[special:version]]
[20:04:10] <RickZilla>	Thank you
[20:05:06] <RickZilla>	Yep...I'm 1.10.1, I'd better learn how to update
[20:05:38] <ialex>	!update
[20:05:38] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[20:07:39] <RickZilla>	Thanks...you just saved me a half hour of searching for that page :-)
[20:10:11] <Wiredtape>	has anyone ever heard of GPo locator files?
[20:10:15] <Wiredtape>	*GPO
[20:12:12] <ialex>	RickZilla: it is linked from the main page of www.mediawiki.org
[20:12:43] <RickZilla>	ialex:  Yep, but I wouldn't think to start there
[20:13:21] <Atluxity>	who can I talk to about api.php? feature request or general discussion
[20:14:06] <Jack_Phoenix>	Atluxity: RoanKattouw probably (http://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Catrope, IRC nick RoanKattouw)
[20:14:38] <Atluxity>	Jack_Phoenix: do you know if he usually hang on this channel when he is online?
[20:14:49] <Wiredtape>	Atluxity, usually
[20:14:51] <Jack_Phoenix>	he's around here quite often, I'd say
[20:15:16] <Atluxity>	great :)
[20:17:14] <[1]iamtim>	Is there an easy way to delete all the history on all entries? We are propogating a wiki and want to remove all history of changes before we mak e it public. How ca we do this?
[20:18:43] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) List all articles in a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4602  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:20:57] <^demon>	[1]iamtim: Not really, no.
[20:21:05] <[1]iamtim>	Poop.
[20:21:13] <[1]iamtim>	THanks ^demon.
[20:21:21] <^demon>	You could feasibly delete all pages and selectively restore all but the latest revision, but that gets very time-consuming very quickly.
[20:22:21] <Sundance_Raphael>	n8#
[20:22:31] <^demon>	Anyone care to look at bug 1411 and tell me if you think it's /yet another/ "covered by DPL" request?
[20:27:44] <Atluxity>	^demon: what is DPL?
[20:28:51] <^demon>	DynamicPageList.
[20:54:57] <jlerner>	is there a maintenance script or somesuch to create a bunch of user accounts in batch?
[20:57:55] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r31097 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/ (Timeline.php timeline.i18n.php): 
[20:57:55] <CIA-6>	* Add description message for [[Special:Version]]
[20:57:55] <CIA-6>	* Fix indention
[20:58:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  (10huji.huji)
[21:02:01] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create new mailing list for Urdu wiki's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13052  +comment (10cbass)
[21:05:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace the "magnify" symbol used below thumbnails by a more explicit one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13070  (10guillom.pom)
[21:08:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Render redirect wikilinks in a redirect class for customization via user/ site CSS. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12968  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[21:16:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Accesskeys conflict with browser keyboard shortcuts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477  (10huji.huji)
[21:16:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New accesskey for "Preview" button in edit pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11864  (10huji.huji)
[21:20:08] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r31098 10/trunk/phase3/index.php: Whitespace tweak
[21:21:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Documentation for DPL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13076 minor; low; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList; (biyer)
[21:26:32] <aBSDaemon>	which maintiance script is the bulk image add one again?
[21:33:10] <tom2981>	hi all
[21:33:51] <tom2981>	some time ago I found a script that would allow to create a source file for graphviz from a mediawiki... like show a tree of all pages and where they link..
[21:34:07] <tom2981>	does anyone know what I mean? I can't find the link again... :-(
[21:38:33] <Isnogud>	tom2981: is it this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wgraph?
[21:39:28] <tom2981>	Isnogud: it wasnt an extension... more like a bot that would harvest a whole mediawiki and leave you with a graphviz source file
[21:48:10] <CIA-6>	03raymond * r31099 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/ (lst.i18n.php lst.php): Add description message for [[Special:Version]]
[21:50:19] <LionsMane>	I want to embed CSS in my wiki page, is that by default disabled?
[21:50:38] <ialex>	yes
[22:00:19] <siebrand>	does anyone know Steve Sanbeg [ssanbeg@ask.com]?
[22:02:15] <ThomasV>	siebrand: he wrote the LST extension
[22:04:53] <siebrand>	ThomasV: thanks. I just read his post to wikitech-l and I have trouble understanding what problems exactly he means to address. Is he ever seen on IRC?
[22:10:05] <jimbojw>	what's that extension that lets you specify the real title of an article?
[22:11:27] <jlerner>	jimbojw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CustomTitle  ? 
[22:12:27] <jimbojw>	jlerner: actually, I think what I need is to enable the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} magic word as described here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowDisplayTitle
[22:12:31] <jimbojw>	thanks!
[22:12:53] <jlerner>	also good - working on the case-insensitive stuff?
[22:13:12] <jimbojw>	kinda
[22:13:16] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31100 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/Timeline.i18n.php.tmp: Temporary rename
[22:13:19] <jimbojw>	helping with it
[22:16:02] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31101 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/ (4 files): 
[22:16:02] <CIA-6>	* rename i18n file to be consistent with Timeline.php
[22:16:02] <CIA-6>	* update link to i18n file
[22:16:02] <CIA-6>	* some whitespace fixes
[22:23:14] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31102 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[22:23:14] <CIA-6>	* whitespace fix in lst.i18n.php
[22:23:14] <CIA-6>	* add LabeledSectionTransclusion, and timeline support to Translate
[22:24:07] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31103 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: Fix typo
[22:34:27] <CIA-6>	03siebrand * r31104 10/trunk/extensions/LabeledSectionTransclusion/lst.i18n.php: Fix tag markup
[22:38:08] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r31105 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Fix some silly bugs
[22:51:07] <Majikkan>	I've been stumped on usage of DPL2 for a while. I have a lot of pages which all use a template (Called 'Character') and all belong to the same category. This template has a variable called 'status'. If I want to use DPL2 to create a list of every one of those pages with a certain status, how would I go about that?
[22:59:38] <TylerM>	heh - I can't win...   I use the titles of my wiki pages like the default of my skin, which makes them <h1> - so I always remove any additional =title= from my pages to keep it clean...
[22:59:59] <TylerM>	but now I'm trying out transclusion and see it does not include those default H1's :)
[23:00:25] <TylerM>	any tips?  Do I need to modify something in my skin to allow transclusion to show them?
[23:00:29] <TylerM>	any tips appreciated!
[23:00:31] <TylerM>	ty
[23:00:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) User Talk Pages Suggestion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13077 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (mistman123)
[23:01:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Broken links in CategoryStepper extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13078 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; (lejonel)
[23:05:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Broken links in CategoryStepper extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13078  (10lejonel)
[23:18:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Broken links in CategoryStepper extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13078   +patch (10lejonel)
[23:25:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The default MediaWiki: Sharedupload text does not link to the shared repository (e.g. Commons) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10677  (10N/A)
[23:34:13] <TylerM>	any transclusion gurus around? :)
[23:35:05] <Wiredtape>	TylerM, explain the problem again?
[23:35:44] <TylerM>	hi Wiredtape thx...  I want to have the page titles appear as H1 in the transclude page
[23:35:54] *TylerM 	falls down a meta hole trying to verbalise it ;)
[23:36:12] <TylerM>	monobook style shows page title as H1 by default on separate pages...
[23:36:24] <TylerM>	but when I transclude them into other pages, the H1 isn't there.
[23:36:54] <TylerM>	looking for a workaround I guess.. before I start to go an add a redundant =HEADING= to my 25 source pages :)
[23:37:05] <Wiredtape>	umm.. how do you transclude them?
[23:37:13] <TylerM>	just {{:title}}
[23:37:19] <Wiredtape>	ok..
[23:37:29] <TylerM>	I could always add a =TITLE= above them I guess too 
[23:37:50] <TylerM>	but the manualness of it is scaring me away ;)
[23:38:05] <Wiredtape>	this is obviously because the pagetitle is skin level, and inner titles are parser lvl (if i managed to explain it correctly)
[23:38:24] <Wiredtape>	basically =bla= won't create an h1.
[23:38:26] <TylerM>	i get it
[23:38:29] <Wiredtape>	ok
[23:38:48] <TylerM>	i mean i understand why.. but wanted to make sure there wasn't some option somewhere :)
[23:38:57] <Wiredtape>	so if you want to change pagetitles to be h2,or h<whatever> you would need to do it in the skin.. and it would be a site wide thing
[23:39:01] <Wiredtape>	:)
[23:39:58] <TylerM>	I like them as H1, but also want to see them in the page they are transcluded into .. that's the rub
[23:41:04] <Duesentrieb>	TylerM: put this into your template:
[23:41:33] <Duesentrieb>	<includeonly>== whatever ==</includeonly>
[23:41:56] <Wiredtape>	i think u can just use <h1> inside the edit box can't u?
[23:41:57] <Duesentrieb>	hm... "whatever" could be replaced bya magic word... not {{PAGETITLE}} though. let me check
[23:42:49] <Wiredtape>	u can use {{{whatever}}} as well, and just set it to what you want..
[23:43:05] <comperr>	how do you force the text you enter to keep the same spacing that you put in?
[23:43:26] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: yes, but wasn't there a magic word to grep the template's title?
[23:43:33] <Duesentrieb>	comperr: <pre>
[23:43:37] <comperr>	ty
[23:43:50] <Duesentrieb>	comperr: or just start each line with a t least one space
[23:44:17] <Duesentrieb>	comperr: simpel indinting keeps some wiki text processing enabled (italics, bold, links, etc), while <pre> disables text formatting too
[23:44:28] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, it would be pagetitle.. i don't c a reason why it wouldn't work..
[23:44:40] <comperr>	Duesentrieb, ah ok ty
[23:44:47] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: because that gives you the title of the page the template is used on
[23:45:17] <Wiredtape>	but he's transcluding anyway.. so he would have to specify the title ...
[23:45:19] <Duesentrieb>	{{PAGENAME}} btw, sory
[23:45:50] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: if the magic work i think of exists, then he doesn't
[23:46:01] <Duesentrieb>	hm... {{SUBJECTPAGENAME}} ?
[23:46:05] <Wiredtape>	hmm.. some *magic* word :-)
[23:47:03] <Duesentrieb>	hm, no, that's just the opposite of TALKPAGENAME...
[23:47:12] <Duesentrieb>	hrm. maybe it's not possible after all.
[23:47:25] <Duesentrieb>	but the info has to be there... it's used for the edit links in transcluded sections...
[23:47:47] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, is it? afaik when you transclude the edit points to the same page..
[23:47:54] <Wiredtape>	atleast that's what it's like when i do it..
[23:48:20] <Wiredtape>	TylerM, basically you can do the following:
[23:48:37] <Wiredtape>	create a template {{transcluder|title=<articletitle>}}
[23:48:53] <Wiredtape>	inside do <h1>{{{title}}}</h1>
[23:49:02] <Wiredtape>	{{:{{{title}}}}}
[23:49:13] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: no, when you transclude foo on bar, and foo contains a section, then that section's edit link, as shown on bar, will point to foo.
[23:49:24] <Duesentrieb>	but i don't see a magic word for it
[23:49:57] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, that's what I thought happens to.. but unfortunately I didn't see that happen, atleast from my expirements
[23:50:49] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM%3ADEL#Image:JK_JATA.C3.8D.jpg#
[23:50:53] <Duesentrieb>	click the edit link
[23:51:16] <Wiredtape>	TylerM, btw, my suggestion will cause the article to have the main page title twice (unfortunately)
[23:51:22] <Duesentrieb>	or, remove the # at the very end
[23:54:03] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, no edit link for me.. 
[23:54:33] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: err? lots of sections, i just picked one. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM%3ADEL#Image:JK_JATA.C3.8D.jpg
[23:54:41] <Duesentrieb>	they all got edit links, no?
[23:55:52] <Wiredtape>	not for me.. page is protected..
[23:57:56] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: huh? but the individual discussions are not. i'm talking about *section* edit links?
[23:58:45] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: oh... wait, you are right... there are no edit links, because the page is protected
[23:58:49] <Duesentrieb>	err, huh
[23:58:58] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, umm.. i'm looking at the page, different sections and so on.. i can only say that unless I have suddenly become blind there are no edit links :-)
[23:59:04] <Duesentrieb>	i guess that's an oversight, since they do point to unprotected pages :P
[23:59:14] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: this is actually a bug :)
[23:59:26] <jlerner>	ok, stupid question - how do you access a skin variable in a custom parser function? referring specifically to $this->data['personal_urls'][
[23:59:34] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: let me find an unprotected page with transcluded sections...
[23:59:44] <Wiredtape>	Duesentrieb, k
[23:59:47] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner: you don't.
[23:59:57] <jlerner>	yeah, it's seeming that way
[23:59:58] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner: parser functions are run long before the skin is even instantiated