[00:12:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show parent categories in category namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13140 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (bugz-wikimedia)
[00:53:52] <calimer->	I was just wondering if there was a way to delete or "hide" the deletion log
[00:54:30] <calimer->	I have a site that kids visit and spammer posted some adult stuff and even deleted it is kinda showing when I don't want it to
[00:54:31] <calimer->	http://www.kids.platinumarts.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges
[00:55:54] <Skizzerz>	calimer-: you can manually delete the log entries from the logs table in the database
[00:56:07] <hughw>	hi guys, I moved my mediawiki installation from one server to another, and now it won't load. Will someone help me troubleshoot please, I suspect it has somwthing to do with the Alias
[00:56:42] <calimer->	not quite sure how do to that, but I'll check it out
[00:59:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Pipetrick doesn't work in gallery image caption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13141 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (bugs)
[01:14:01] <calimer->	is there a way to block certain words?
[01:15:43] <calimer->	and woo successfully edited that stuff out
[01:21:27] <greenmanwitch>	how do I make something go on a new line?
[01:23:55] <flyingparchment>	<br>
[01:24:03] <flyingparchment>	but usually you'd use a new paragraph (two newlines)
[01:29:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page moves break links to closed AfD discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13114  +comment (10tstarling)
[01:34:43] <OldakQuill>	Hey, I wrote a special page Mostlinkedredirects and modified all of the relevant files (QueryPage, SpecialPage, &c). I've got the SVN diff to the current phase3. What do I do with it? Upload to bugzilla?
[01:35:06] <flyingparchment>	OldakQuill: yes.  make sure it's a 'diff -N'
[01:35:14] <flyingparchment>	(-uN or -cN, that is)
[01:35:29] <calimer->	is there a way for me to block naughty words?
[01:35:43] <OldakQuill>	That makes sure it is diffed against the newest revision?
[01:35:58] <flyingparchment>	no, that includes new files as well as existing ones
[01:52:42] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Problem with comments/subst in new parser/preprocessor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13109  +comment (10tstarling)
[02:17:30] <Furret>	http://sites.schroederwebdesign.com/tcod/wiki/config/
[02:17:30] <Furret>	:(
[02:17:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SMW_dumpRDF.php needs server definition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13142 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[02:18:28] <Furret>	:D
[02:30:47] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Cannot edit in Georgian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13104  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10tstarling)
[02:35:29] <nsh>	yo and that
[02:35:35] <nsh>	had an idea
[02:37:02] <nsh>	would it be possible to make it so that whenever a user clicks on an external link (say to a source reference) from a WP article, their browser hashes the fetched page and returns the hash to mediawiki, such that every time someone goes off-site, they can check link-availability and -fidelity?
[02:37:11] <nsh>	i ask mostly rhetorically, i'm sure it would be possible
[02:37:15] <pete2>	http://neo-hk.myminicity.com/
[02:40:32] <hmmhesays>	Is there some media wiki extension that would allow me to put php inline on a mediawiki page? I'm coming up short on my google searches
[02:41:35] <nsh>	for a publically editable wiki?
[02:41:42] <nsh>	sounds like a awfully good way to get pwnt..
[02:42:08] <Soxred93>	Yeah, I think there is a reason Google comes up short
[02:42:20] <MZMcBride>	!htmlets | hmmhesays 
[02:42:20] --mwbot--	hmmhesays: For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RawMsg> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[02:42:36] <Soxred93>	Even html and js could cause severe problems. PHP would be unimaginable
[02:42:45] <Soxred93>	Oh crap, took too long to type
[02:43:04] <hmmhesays>	Oh i know it would be terribly dangerous if the wiki was open
[02:43:19] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Special page showing most linked-to redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10997  +comment (10oldakquill)
[02:43:26] <Soxred93>	Well why woudl you want it?
[02:43:44] <Soxred93>	I guess if you wanted a developer to only be able to edit it, that defeats the purpose
[02:44:02] <hmmhesays>	just provides me an easy way to do some stuff without having to learn much about creating extensions lol
[02:45:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Security hole through RSS/Atom feeds of Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13107  (10tstarling)
[02:46:27] <Furret>	Bleh.
[02:46:37] <Furret>	I know this is unrelated to MediaWiki, but I'm trying to install one on my new Apache server
[02:46:45] <Furret>	And I'm having a hell of a time getting PHP to work with MySQL
[02:46:59] <Furret>	Apparently PHP5 doesn't have MySQL extensions on by default or something?
[02:47:03] <OldakQuill>	So I've tested the patch and submitted it to bugzilla. I just check the bug as ASSIGNED? Someone else tests and checks as FIXED?
[02:47:14] <flyingparchment>	Furret: no database support is compiled by default
[02:47:36] <hmmhesays>	you compiling php or using some package?
[02:48:44] <Furret>	oh wow
[02:49:00] <Furret>	i forgot to install MySQL functions using the installer
[02:54:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Security hole through RSS/Atom feeds of Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13107  (10soxred93)
[02:56:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special page showing most linked-to redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10997  (10oldakquill)
[03:01:01] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Security hole through RSS/Atom feeds of Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13107  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:06:47] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Images. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13116  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:15:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page moves break links to closed AfD discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13114  (10hardy)
[03:20:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page moves break links to closed AfD discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13114  (10hardy)
[03:25:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser breaks signatures inside gallery tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13120  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:31:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "frame" image layout doesn't scale image down like "thumb" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13121  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:38:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pipetrick doesn't work in gallery image caption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13141  +comment (10tstarling)
[04:19:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13127  (10bill.mitchell)
[04:20:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page moves break links to closed AfD discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13114  (10tstarling)
[04:42:58] <Soxred93>	Hey everyone
[04:43:21] <Soxred93>	Looking at the mediawiki parser.php, I see all the magic words are lowercase.
[04:43:32] <Soxred93>	How come they only work on uppercase in the page, though?
[04:49:21] <MZMcBride>	Soxred93: they're *magic*
[04:49:35] <Soxred93>	*twilight zone*
[04:49:38] <Soxred93>	No, I'm serious
[05:04:02] <Charitwo>	MAGIC
[05:04:41] <Soxred93>	Ergh...I'm trying to write a patch
[05:04:48] <Soxred93>	but need to know wht
[05:11:36] <Soxred93>	Hmm...why does no one answer?
[05:19:16] <Soxred93>	Ergh, who should be pinged....
[05:21:11] <Soxred93>	Woah, Tom39Away is here
[05:21:20] <Soxred93>	I thought he was only on #hrwiki
[05:24:24] <greenmanwitch>	my main page has a table of contents which I do not want
[05:24:30] <greenmanwitch>	how do I get rid of it?
[05:25:13] <Soxred93>	_NOTOC_
[05:26:08] <Dashiva>	double underscore on each side
[05:26:25] <Soxred93>	Right, that's what I meant
[05:28:21] <greenmanwitch>	cool
[05:28:54] <greenmanwitch>	thanks
[05:29:16] <greenmanwitch>	my wiki is coming along really nicely now
[05:29:20] *greenmanwitch 	loves mediawiki
[05:29:26] <greenmanwitch>	http://wiki.myah.org/index.php/Main_Page
[05:29:54] <greenmanwitch>	well actually it isn't /my/ wiki. It belongs to the guy who develops Myah OS
[05:30:08] <greenmanwitch>	but I have written pretty much everything on the Wiki
[05:30:57] <Soxred93>	I'm busy trying to figure out something with magic words
[05:31:01] <Soxred93>	but no one helps me
[05:32:30] <Soxred93>	Oh come on!
[05:32:39] <Soxred93>	Whoops, wrong channel
[05:37:09] <Wiredtape>	bla bla bla
[05:37:26] <Soxred93>	What?
[05:37:34] <Wiredtape>	:), it
[05:37:48] <Soxred93>	Hmm...I'm not in the mood right now
[05:37:55] <Soxred93>	I'm a little annoyed right now
[05:38:15] <Wiredtape>	*it's just one of those nights where it's 12:30am and i need to get up early and i was a bit cranky
[05:38:15] <Soxred93>	I mean, I know I am not being ignored, but it sure feels like it, looking at the list of users on the side
[05:38:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Merging $_GET and $_POST with array_merge is a bad idea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13139  (10mccormack)
[05:38:34] <Wiredtape>	Sozred93 what do you need? (btw, i just got here)
[05:38:49] <Wiredtape>	*Soxred93
[05:38:55] <Soxred93>	Looking at the mediawiki parser.php, I see all the magic words are lowercase. How come they only work on uppercase in the page, though?
[05:39:40] <Wiredtape>	i'm not sure, though i thing it's because of the way their constants are defined on another file
[05:39:58] <Wiredtape>	i think it was magic.php or something else (which i can't remember)
[05:41:05] <Soxred93>	MagicWord.php?
[05:41:25] <Wiredtape>	yup..
[05:41:37] <Soxred93>	Yeah, Ive looked there, though
[05:41:59] <Wiredtape>	and they aren't uppercase?
[05:42:17] <Soxred93>	Yeah
[05:42:19] <Soxred93>	"$case = $this->mCaseSensitive ? '' : 'iu';"
[05:42:25] <Soxred93>	Does that have anything to do with it?
[05:43:18] <Wiredtape>	yes..
[05:43:35] <Soxred93>	I'm trying to come up with a patch for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12424
[05:45:28] <Wiredtape>	well.. this is one of those bugs, where i would suggest asking the people who wrote the file why they originally made it uppercase..
[05:45:35] <Wiredtape>	i'm assuming there is good reason..
[05:45:44] <Soxred93>	Yeah, me too
[05:46:13] <MZMcBride>	what's the benefit of using lowercase?
[05:46:49] <Wiredtape>	MZMcBride, the bug says, for newbies who want to use {{PAGENAME}} 
[05:46:56] <Wiredtape>	so {{pagename}} would do the same
[05:47:06] <MZMcBride>	well, they'll learn when it doesn't work
[05:47:20] <Soxred93>	Would replacing 
[05:47:21] <Soxred93>	    static public $mVariableIDs = array(
[05:47:24] <Soxred93>	with 
[05:47:27] <Soxred93>	    static public $mVariableIDs = array( 0
[05:47:29] <Soxred93>	work?
[05:47:44] <Soxred93>	Like it says in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Variables?
[05:47:56] <Wiredtape>	MZMcBride, i don't see much sense in making it uppercase as well? as far as i'm concerned, it doesn't really matter.. though possibly it could help newbies a "bit" (a very small bit indeed)
[05:48:31] <MZMcBride>	it's standardized practice now; unless there's a good reason to change it, no real reason to
[05:48:46] <MZMcBride>	and i think they were capitalized to avoid naming conflicts with actual templates
[05:49:29] <Wiredtape>	If it's standard practice now (avoiding the obvious parser functions extension example) - then i don't see any reason as well
[05:49:39] <Wiredtape>	Soxred93, i'm not sure i follow you?
[05:49:42] <Wiredtape>	where? what?
[05:50:07] <Soxred93>	  #tell MediaWiki that all {{NiftyVar}}, {{NIFTYVAR}}, 
[05:50:14] <Soxred93>	  #{{CoolVar}}, {{COOLVAR}} and all case variants found 
[05:50:26] <Soxred93>	  #in wiki text should be mapped to magic id 'mycustomvar1'
[05:50:30] <Soxred93>	  # (0 means case-insensitive)
[05:50:34] <Wiredtape>	Soxred93, simplest solution would be to make a template {{pagename}} which would have {{PAGENAME}} inside it.. 
[05:50:45] <Soxred93>	That could work
[05:51:58] <Wiredtape>	btw, as a side note, most of the people (listed) are working/away/at lunch/or otherwise NA..  usually, if someone can, they answer you.. there's really no reason to get upset..
[05:52:22] <Wiredtape>	and i'm sure it is appreciated that you are working on resolving these bugs..
[05:52:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) lowercase usage of magic words same as lowercase usage of predefined templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12424  +comment (10soxred93)
[05:52:58] <Wiredtape>	also, you could close out this bug with a comment regarding using lowercase template including the uppercase magicwords..
[05:53:33] <Soxred93>	I just commented, see above
[05:53:49] <Wiredtape>	have seen.. better if set to resolved :) - i'll do..
[05:54:04] <Soxred93>	No, I'll do it
[05:54:11] <Wiredtape>	ok.. :)
[05:54:27] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) lowercase usage of magic words same as lowercase usage of predefined templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12424  (10soxred93)
[05:54:55] <Wiredtape>	anyway, it's time to go to bed! g'night
[05:55:13] <Soxred93>	Night
[05:55:42] <Soxred93>	Night all. 
[06:10:56] <CIA-6>	03dale * r31240 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
[06:10:56] <CIA-6>	semantic media wiki in-line clip results stub
[06:10:59] <CIA-6>	other bug fixes / maintenance script updates
[06:11:10] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r31241 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Don't allow double logging of patrol events
[06:16:57] <CIA-6>	03aaron * r31242 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Don't show QA link on talk pages
[06:21:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) period ('.') is a valid character in a file name (foo.bar. jpg is not the same as foo.jpg) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13143 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (brianna.laugher)
[06:31:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show parent categories in category namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13140  +comment (10harryboyles)
[06:49:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Unable to unprotect pages protected with earlier versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13132  +comment (10rotemliss)
[07:53:38] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	!version
[07:53:38] --mwbot--	To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php.
[08:14:51] <aton`>	i am trying to upgrade to .11.1
[08:14:55] <aton`>	the manual says
[08:14:57] <aton`>	Browse to the wiki and start the installer
[08:15:04] <aton`>	how do i start the installer?
[08:15:29] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	just point your browser to url of your wiki
[08:16:53] <aton`>	it says: MediaWiki 1.11.1
[08:16:53] <aton`>	To complete the installation, move config/LocalSettings.php to the parent directory. 
[08:17:12] <aton`>	seems like its done already by copying and overwriting the files
[08:17:23] <aton`>	the tutorial said, i had to re-enter information in the install script?
[08:17:47] <aton`>	or should i redirect my browser to /wiki/config/ ?
[08:17:59] <aton`>	i am afraid to break something :(
[08:19:52] <aton`>	hm when i go to config it says Installation successful
[08:20:07] <aton`>	i guess i will copy back the old LocalSettings.php and try
[08:22:28] <aton`>	argh syntax error 
[08:22:41] <aton`>	aus der Funktion „LocalFile::loadFromDB“. MySQL meldete den Fehler „1054: Unknown column 'img_sha1' in 'field list' (mysql4
[08:24:40] <aton`>	ah i forgot to delete the LocalSettings.php in config/ before
[08:38:58] <aton`>	ah all worked great
[08:39:05] <aton`>	seems the extensions work too :)
[08:39:15] <aton`>	thanks for the help :)
[08:41:49] <Splarka>	Dantman made a typo, "than" should be "then" (for accuracy)
[08:41:59] *Splarka 	waits for someone to challenge that, and then "get" it
[09:10:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show redirects in watchlist editor in italics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13144 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bruce2ee)
[09:18:33] <thombo>	hi, anyone here who knows a bit about multi language configuration of mediawiki?
[09:24:25] <_wooz>	lo
[09:26:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) period ('.') is a valid character in a file name (foo.bar. jpg is not the same as foo.jpg) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13143  +comment (10huji.huji)
[09:26:48] <mondschein>	somehow though i enabled email it doesn't work...i tried to sent an email to myself via terminal an this does work...can somebody help me?
[09:34:11] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) period ('.') is a valid character in a file name (foo.bar. jpg is not the same as foo.jpg) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13143  +comment (10Andrew)
[09:36:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) period ('.') is a valid character in a file name (foo.bar. jpg is not the same as foo.jpg) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13143  (10huji.huji)
[09:38:16] <Anarhist>	hello, pages with '&' in the name stopped showing up, even though they are encoded in the url, they were showing up before, but don't now, what can it be?\
[09:54:47] <Splarka>	Anarhist: on wikimedia or elsewhere?
[09:55:53] <Anarhist>	mediawiki site; not under control of wikimedia
[09:56:13] <Anarhist>	the name starting with '&' gets stripped off
[09:56:36] <Anarhist>	so you have the article in the category, but then when you click there you get Page doesn't yet exist
[09:56:49] <Splarka>	(ahh k, was worth asking, wikimedia now (recently) blocks &amp; in titles...)
[09:57:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Security hole through RSS/Atom feeds of Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13107  (10palaniappanc)
[09:59:14] <marchelly>	rere :)
[10:01:15] <fenerlireis>	 :) 
[10:02:16] <Anarhist>	Splarka:  so should i do a DB hack to rename and then how do i block & in titles also?
[10:03:26] <Splarka>	dunno...  the block on wikimedia is just &amp;, & is still a valid title charater AFAIK
[10:04:08] <Anarhist>	well, i'll rename that article with the database change and then look at the issue closer
[10:04:32] <Splarka>	did you upgrade recently and notice this problem?
[10:05:21] <Anarhist>	i believe that the article was created after the last upgrade
[10:10:56] <CIA-43>	03werdna * r31246 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialUpload.php: (bug 13143) Fix regression in r25481, in which file extensions were incorrectly being determined by taking the part of the filename after the first period. Behaviour modified to take the part after the LAST period.
[10:11:35] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) period ('.') is a valid character in a file name (foo.bar. jpg is not the same as foo.jpg) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13143  +comment (10Andrew)
[10:12:18] <mondschein>	has anybody enabled email in his own wiki?
[10:13:23] <Anarhist>	we have it enabled
[10:13:31] <dachary>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions
[10:14:27] <dachary>	The section regarding classes is unclear. Does someone know of a good example ? A well behaved extension writen with class(es) ? 
[10:15:11] <dachary>	I wrote the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Silva with a class. But I'm pretty sure I've done something atypical.
[10:16:00] <mondschein>	Anarhist: i have my own wiki and want to enable it to...but somehow it doesn't work though i set the parameters in Localsettings.php...i looking for someone who  might be able to look through the parameters with me!?
[10:16:46] <Anarhist>	mondschein:  hmm, so what exactly doesn't work? does it give any errors?
[10:16:55] <Anarhist>	i'm not expert in that, but i can try to help
[10:17:56] <mondschein>	no if i want a confirmation email the wiki says that it sends an email but i receive no email :(
[10:18:46] <mondschein>	so probalby some parameters are wrong or so i thought, besauce i send a email to myself via terminal console so the phpmail is alright
[10:19:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark edits reverted by a rollback as patrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13133  +comment (10huji.huji)
[10:19:11] <Anarhist>	yeah, it sounds like configuration problem
[10:19:30] <Anarhist>	i'm not the one who set up the e-mail confirmation on the wiki i'm on, but i'll check
[10:20:59] <mondschein>	maybe we can go thourgh the parameters which are set up in your wiki!?
[10:21:08] <Anarhist>	well, what did you change?
[10:22:11] <mondschein>	in the loaclsetting.php?
[10:22:50] <Anarhist>	what did you do in order to set up e-mail?
[10:22:58] <Anarhist>	what settings did you set there
[10:23:12] <mondschein>	ok one moment
[10:26:06] <mondschein>	##Email Settings
[10:26:07] <mondschein>	$wgEnableEmail      = true;
[10:26:09] <mondschein>	$wgEnableUserEmail  = true;
[10:26:11] <mondschein>	$wgEmailAuthentication = true;
[10:26:13] <mondschein>	$wgEmergencyContact = "my@email.de";
[10:26:15] <mondschein>	$wgPasswordSender = "my@email.de";
[10:26:16] <mondschein>	#Editors should be required to have a validated email adress before editing
[10:26:18] <mondschein>	$wgEmailConfirmToEdit = false;
[10:26:19] <mondschein>	#Email notification for Watchlist-Changes(depending on preference settings, you get an e-mail after a watched page has been edited by somebody else.
[10:26:21] <mondschein>	# This will not be repeated until you view the page. Note that you have to be logged in when viewing the page, otherwise you will not be notified of 
[10:26:22] <mondschein>	#further changes. Optionally this notification system can ignore minor changes. See Email notification)
[10:26:24] <mondschein>	$wgEnotifWatchlist = true;
[10:26:25] <mondschein>	$wgPasswordReminderResendTime = 24;
[10:26:27] <mondschein>	original i configured the smtp array, BUT it didn'T work and someone told me that i can use phpmail and then i wouldn't have to setup the smtp array
[10:30:40] <Anarhist>	q;-/
[10:31:01] <Anarhist>	i think i can't help you
[10:31:02] <mondschein>	what does the smily mean!? 
[10:31:28] <mondschein>	oh noo :( had so much hope in you since nobody ever answers me...dunno why :(
[10:31:49] <Anarhist>	sorry
[10:31:58] <mondschein>	mhm in your localsettings.php you have the same parameters set up? or more or less?
[10:33:07] <Anarhist>	well, pretty much
[10:33:56] <mondschein>	configured paramteters are pretty much the same!?
[10:34:43] <Anarhist>	well, really it's only first 3 that actually set up email in general
[10:34:57] <Anarhist>	the other ones just ask if you want to remind users of stuff
[10:35:21] <Anarhist>	like notification if a page on watch list gets changed
[10:35:31] <Anarhist>	that's what we differ on
[10:35:46] <mondschein>	mhm do you use the smtp array? or do the first three are really enough to get email going?
[10:37:03] <Anarhist>	i can't answer that, at the end of the day i'm not the person who set that part up
[10:37:12] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Bots to edit protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13137  +comment (10huji.huji)
[10:37:33] <mondschein>	mhm thanks for your help and time :)
[10:39:37] <Anarhist>	i wish you luck
[10:42:47] <mondschein>	i'll need that :D
[10:42:47] <Werdna>	pfctdayelise owes me a cookie
[10:45:43] <CIA-43>	03huji * r31247 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 13137) Bots to edit protected pages
[10:49:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable Special:Nuke on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13145 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Nuke; (g1ggyman)
[10:55:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable Special:Nuke on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13145  +comment (10e.wikipedia)
[11:37:52] <[blackb]>	hi all
[11:37:58] <[blackb]>	i have a problem with mediawiki
[11:38:20] <[blackb]>	when i try to look images with latex it says
[11:38:47] <[blackb]>	Failed to Parse(Can't write or create math temp directory)ù
[11:39:16] <Platonides>	check permissions on math folder
[11:39:18] <[blackb]>	i have math directory and tmp directory into mediawiki/images with 777 permission
[11:42:48] <[blackb]>	$wgUploadPath        ="/usr/share/mediawiki/images";
[11:42:49] <[blackb]>	$wgMathPath         = "{$wgUploadPath}/math";
[11:42:49] <[blackb]>	$wgMathDirectory    = "{$wgUploadPath}/math";
[11:42:49] <[blackb]>	$wgTmpDirectory     = "{$wgUploadPath}/tmp";
[11:42:49] <[blackb]>	#$wgMathPath         = "/image";
[11:42:49] <[blackb]>	#$wgMathDirectory    = "/image";
[11:42:50] <[blackb]>	#$wgTmpDirectory     = "/usr/lib/mediawiki/tmp";
[11:43:06] <[blackb]>	i put this in LocalSetting.php
[11:43:38] <[blackb]>	server apache alias /wiki  =/usr/share/mediawiki/
[11:44:09] <[blackb]>	and math directory and tmp direcoty are into images with 777 permission
[11:44:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Show parent categories in category namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13140  +comment (10huji.huji)
[11:52:00] <[blackb]>	anyone know what is the problem?
[11:58:43] <Platonides>	no idea
[11:58:43] <Platonides>	if they're writable...
[11:58:46] <Platonides>	i assume you added that at the bottom of localsettings
[12:03:05] <[blackb]>	yes
[12:04:19] <[blackb]>	i have the images
[12:04:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wikibugs-l is using the word "neutral" as the subject for digests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13146 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (ais523)
[12:04:31] <[blackb]>	but i can't look thet into my page
[12:05:15] <[blackb]>	it generate images texvc
[12:05:24] <[blackb]>	i look thet into html source
[12:05:37] <[blackb]>	but it dosn't look me 
[12:06:12] <[blackb]>	## you can enable inline LaTeX equations:
[12:06:13] <[blackb]>	$wgUseTeX           = true;
[12:06:13] <[blackb]>	$wgLocalInterwiki   = $wgSitename;
[12:07:55] <[blackb]>	<dl><dd><img class='tex' src="/usr/lib/mediawiki/math/0/c/3/0c3510a77ecff4e9b7f5fdaba7f71ab0.png" alt="\begin{cases} \mathbf E(\mathbf r,t)\\ \mathbf B(\mathbf r,t) \end{cases}" /> 
[12:07:57] <[blackb]>	</dd></dl>
[12:08:04] <[blackb]>	this is the image
[12:08:22] <[blackb]>	but i can' see it
[12:09:06] <[blackb]>	and i see into my page the comment c^2 \nabla \times \mathbf B = \frac {\mathbf J}{\epsilon_0} + \frac {\partial \mathbf E}{\partial t}+
[12:09:13] <[blackb]>	but not the image
[12:09:20] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31249 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesTa.php: Fix syntax error
[12:09:20] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31248 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (18 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-02-25 11:14 CET)
[12:09:20] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31252 10/branches/REL1_12/ (344 files in 168 dirs): 
[12:09:20] <CIA-43>	Merge from trunk (r31251)
[12:09:22] <CIA-43>	* localisation for core messages
[12:09:25] <CIA-43>	* extension updates (rename of RandomRootPage omitted)
[12:11:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inaccurate description for Special:Categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13147 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (huji.huji)
[12:18:24] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31253 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAr.php: Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki
[12:24:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) List of Values from Property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13148 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87)
[12:25:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Propertys does not properly work inside <poem> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13011  15enhancement->major (10dasch_87)
[12:25:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SpecialUpload wrongly formatted 'fileexists' error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13149 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (brianna.laugher)
[12:30:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Modified AskQueryOutput when using OR Query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13150 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87)
[12:31:27] <Cryx>	Hey mates, i have turned whole mediawiki.org upside down and couldnt find how to add users to bureaucrat group for example
[12:36:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Propertys does not properly work inside <poem> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13011  (10dasch_87)
[12:36:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of Values from Property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13148  (10dasch_87)
[12:36:48] <Nikerabbit>	HEllo all
[12:36:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Modified AskQueryOutput when using OR Query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13150  (10dasch_87)
[12:48:31] <CIA-43>	03werdna * r31254 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUpload.php): * (bug 13149) Correctly format fileexists message on Upload page.
[12:49:16] <dalurka>	I want to be able to version all files I upload like Image:myimage.jpg does how do I do that?
[12:49:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SpecialUpload wrongly formatted 'fileexists' error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13149  +comment (10Andrew)
[12:50:20] <TimStarling>	anyone want to talk hidden cats yet again?
[12:51:42] <soroush>	TimStarling, doesn't it make stub cats overloaded to show subcats and articles on the same page?
[12:51:43] <flo_>	hi! Is the API proposed action to edit pages already implemented pls?
[12:51:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Transfer some Features from DPL to <ask> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13151 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87)
[12:52:31] <Werdna>	TimStarling: I'll talk hidden cats if you like
[12:52:56] *Werdna 	likes the bin. Nobody thinks to look there, and the meowing is dampened
[12:53:28] <TimStarling>	I'll wait a few minutes for you to finish in #wikimedia-tech
[12:59:19] <TimStarling>	I need to get something committed quickly, because I need to fix bugs in both the action=editredlink and the hidden category feature
[13:00:39] <TimStarling>	MZMcBride is angling for a list on the edit page, fair enough, not much opposition to that afaict
[13:01:11] <TimStarling>	I've already written code for a user preference and a javascript show/hide on the view page
[13:01:22] <TimStarling>	the user preference is not controversial, but the JS show/hide apparently is
[13:01:46] <VasilievVV>	TimStarling: and what about patch (redirect from action=editredlink to action=edit) that I suggested?
[13:01:53] <TimStarling>	slow
[13:02:30] <TimStarling>	I don't know, maybe it would work
[13:02:41] <TimStarling>	it'd fix a lot of bugs I suppose
[13:02:44] <Werdna>	user preference sounds easonable
[13:02:54] <TimStarling>	and done already, into the bargain
[13:03:03] <Werdna>	showing on the edit page is a good idea, I think.
[13:03:17] <TimStarling>	so I'm thinking about backing out the JS show/hide, but leaving the hidden categories in a hidden div
[13:03:24] <TimStarling>	then people can sort it out in user javascript for now
[13:03:37] <TimStarling>	which leaves me free to write code instead of mediate arguments
[13:03:48] <Werdna>	yeah, that sounds good. I could steal your code and put the list on the edit page if you like.
[13:04:35] <Werdna>	just underneath where we list templates.
[13:04:51] <Werdna>	"This page is a member of the following hidden categories:"
[13:05:01] <TimStarling>	I guess that's pretty well separated from the other things I'm planning
[13:05:14] <TimStarling>	ok, you can give that a go if you like
[13:05:25] <TimStarling>	you just have to join categorylinks with page_props
[13:06:37] <TimStarling>	then there's the requested "big list" feature
[13:06:50] <Werdna>	all hidden categories?
[13:06:54] <TimStarling>	yeah
[13:07:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page moves break links to closed AfD discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13114  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:07:16] <TimStarling>	simplest way to do that is by adding hidden categories to a parent category automatically
[13:07:30] <TimStarling>	__HIDDENCAT__ would act like a category tag, as well as a page property
[13:07:58] <TimStarling>	changing the mediawiki namespace message would mean you'd have to null edit all the members to get them to change categories
[13:08:25] <TimStarling>	anyway, I like that idea because it doesn't require adding an extra index to page_props
[13:08:32] <Werdna>	right.
[13:08:46] <TimStarling>	it doesn't need any more UI code, and it fits in nicely with existing UI concepts
[13:09:14] <Werdna>	yes, I've always found MediaWiki a bit weird because of its special-page setup.
[13:09:28] <Werdna>	seems a little too contrived
[13:10:00] <Werdna>	so I think it's always good to be integrating that sort of thing with existing UI stuff, rather than just sticking in an extra special page, wherever it's possible.
[13:10:52] <TimStarling>	good, that's decided then
[13:11:29] <Werdna>	where's the code for avoiding hidden categories when displaying a page?
[13:11:58] <Werdna>	somewhere in the parser?
[13:12:00] <TimStarling>	OutputPage::addCategoryLinks()
[13:12:45] <TimStarling>	it's not necessary to touch categorylinks there, because we already have the category list from the parser, it just has to load their status from page_props
[13:13:12] <Werdna>	ah
[13:13:12] <TimStarling>	the code will change a little bit, to allow output of the hidden categories
[13:13:23] <TimStarling>	not in any way that affects you, I shouldn't think
[13:13:25] <Werdna>	so I have to write out my own query if I'm doing a join?
[13:13:45] *Werdna 	tends to use SELECT c1,c2 from t1,t2 in his own coding.
[13:13:53] <TimStarling>	actually probably not, it'll just be multi-table select
[13:14:06] <TimStarling>	assuming you only want hidden categories
[13:14:12] <Werdna>	yeah
[13:14:24] <TimStarling>	if you want both types of category, you need a LEFT JOIN, which is best done with custom SQL
[13:14:43] <TimStarling>	you can just pass an array to the table parameter of select()
[13:15:59] <Werdna>	Yeah, I knew that much
[13:16:12] *Werdna 	does the same thing in his own db abstraction class
[13:16:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Quiz extension text responses not markable in MW1.12a - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13074  (10lrbabe)
[13:16:25] <Werdna>	and I'm looking for pp_value => 1, right?
[13:17:10] <TimStarling>	no, it's not used, it's set to 'y', but the row is missing if it's not hidden
[13:17:41] <TimStarling>	so you can just have a pp_propname='hidden' condition, and you'll only get rows back that are hidden
[13:18:08] <Werdna>	ah, okay
[13:22:02] <Werdna>	ew, why is formatTemplates in Linker.php?
[13:24:46] <Nikerabbit>	what does it do?
[13:26:54] <Werdna>	formats a list of used templates
[13:27:14] <Werdna>	okay, first draft ready to go
[13:27:17] <Werdna>	let's see how we go
[13:27:28] <Werdna>	$10 says a syntax error
[13:27:31] <Werdna>	no!
[13:30:44] <[blackb]>	anyone can help me with mediawiki late extension configuration?
[13:30:50] <[blackb]>	latex
[13:32:54] <Werdna>	whee
[13:33:01] <Werdna>	TimStarling: I think I've done it.
[13:34:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable Special:Nuke on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13145   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[13:34:37] <Cryx>	Heya! I have turned whole mediawiki.org upside down and couldnt find how to add users for example to bureaucrat group
[13:34:52] <Werdna>	you turned it upside down?
[13:34:55] <Werdna>	upside-down-ternet :)
[13:35:03] <Werdna>	but seriously, try Special:Userrights
[13:36:14] <TimStarling>	well done
[13:37:32] <TimStarling>	I wonder if there's any nasty surprises waiting in svn, I haven't reviewed the changes for a few days
[13:37:46] <Werdna>	somebody enabled bots editing protected pags
[13:37:50] <Werdna>	that could be interesting
[13:38:05] <Jack_Phoenix>	wtf
[13:38:09] <Jack_Phoenix>	now that sounds nasty
[13:38:14] <TimStarling>	that could be reverted...
[13:38:33] <CIA-43>	03werdna * r31257 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): For pages with hidden categories, add a list of these categories down the bottom of the "edit" page - underneath the list of included templates.
[13:38:41] <Werdna>	whee
[13:41:36] <TimStarling>	hmmm, name of message containing hidden categories... "hidden-category-category"?
[13:41:54] <TimStarling>	message containing category name containing hidden categories, I should say
[13:42:24] <Werdna>	or name of category which is to contain all hidden categories
[13:42:38] <Werdna>	hmm
[13:42:40] <TimStarling>	whatever, hidden-category-category is kind of cute
[13:42:47] <VasilievVV>	<Werdna> somebody enabled bots editing protected pags // that's false
[13:43:04] <Werdna>	well, that's what the commit message said.
[13:43:40] <VasilievVV>	Werdna: commit message just referred to bug :)
[13:43:46] <Werdna>	I guess hidden-category-category is OK.. I can't think of anything better.
[13:44:18] <VasilievVV>	r31247 introduced editprotected right
[13:44:40] <Werdna>	ah
[13:44:52] <Werdna>	perhaps RELEASE-NOTES should say so, instead of "bots editing protected pages"
[13:46:45] <TimStarling>	should hidden-category-category be a hidden category?
[13:47:07] <TimStarling>	that's actually a bit tricky...
[13:47:24] <Werdna>	my first inclination would be 'no'
[13:47:31] <Werdna>	because there is no need to hide it from aticles
[13:47:44] <TimStarling>	it'd have to be a special case on the UI side, it'd be just too ugly to put it in the page_props table
[13:48:00] <TimStarling>	:P so no
[13:48:00] <Werdna>	and it makes sense that "Hidden category" appears somewhere on the category page itself for hidden categories
[13:48:20] <Werdna>	which it doesn't currently - so that solves that problem
[13:48:35] <TimStarling>	good
[13:49:18] <Nikerabbit>	XXX ‎  ‎ (blocked User:87.89.168.221 with an expiry time of 1 month (utilisateurs anonymes seulement, création de compte interdite): multi wiki vandalism) ‎
[13:49:28] <Nikerabbit>	is this a bug in mediawiki?
[13:49:31] <TimStarling>	right, next task, just how slow would it be to redirect from action=editredlink to action=edit?
[13:50:40] <TimStarling>	Nikerabbit: what's wrong with it?
[13:50:57] <Nikerabbit>	TimStarling: the french part
[13:51:18] <Nikerabbit>	content language is en and my ui is fi, the user who blocked used probably fr
[13:51:32] <TimStarling>	sounds like a bug to me
[13:51:38] *TimStarling 	blocks zwinger
[13:52:16] <Nikerabbit>	haven't yet looked if it is in my code or mw code
[13:56:32] <TimStarling>	action=editredlink: 70ms
[13:56:38] <TimStarling>	action=edit: 206ms
[13:56:48] <TimStarling>	(for a blocked user)
[13:57:14] <TimStarling>	so it'd be about the same for a redirect from one to the other
[13:57:24] <TimStarling>	but then there's the latency of course
[13:57:38] <TimStarling>	an extra couple of RTTs
[13:58:11] <TimStarling>	that would be bad for someone living in, say, australia, wouldn't it?
[13:59:27] <Werdna>	mmm
[13:59:55] <TimStarling>	I'd better finish with the hidden cats first
[14:04:22] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Show redirects in watchlist editor in italics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13144  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[14:13:07] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31258 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiBase.php ApiQueryRevisions.php): API: Fixing limit=max output; previous implementation threw fatal errors under certain conditions and didn't accomodate for some modules having different limits in some cases.
[14:15:07] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31259 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiBase.php ApiQueryRevisions.php): Applying r31258 to 1.12 branch (fixes a fatal error). See also post on mediawiki-api list.
[14:15:13] <[blackb]>	i can't look images on latex on my mediawiki
[14:16:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Modified AskQueryOutput when using OR Query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13150  (10dasch_87)
[14:34:56] <Duesentrieb>	hm... wrt graph theory, if a node with no outgoing edges is a "dead end", what should a node with no incomming endges be called?
[14:38:53] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31260 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php: API: Rewriting ApiQueryBacklinks big time. Implemented blredirect and cleaned up continue parameter handling and generation, among other things.
[14:42:06] <rainman-sr>	Duesentrieb, it's it source/sink?
[14:42:20] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: no.
[14:42:22] <Basile>	hi
[14:42:50] <Basile>	I have a little question
[14:43:00] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: it's more loke roots & leafs
[14:43:01] <Basile>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#Pre-1.9 : Where am i supposed to add this code?
[14:43:30] <Duesentrieb>	Basile: MediaWiki:monobook.js
[14:43:43] <Basile>	thanks :>
[14:43:49] <Duesentrieb>	(MediaWiki:common.js on newer versions, but there it's not needed anyway)
[14:44:14] <Duesentrieb>	Basile: if it doesn't exist, create it. oh, and that's a wiki page, not a file. people often get confused by that
[14:44:47] <Basile>	yep ok, will do that, thanks !
[14:44:48] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: roots / leafs fit best so far, but the terminology is a bit odd when dealing with arbitrary networks, not (poly-)hierarchies.
[14:45:10] <rainman-sr>	Duesentrieb, I think sink/source are common in graph theory
[14:45:23] <rainman-sr>	[[Degree_(graph_theory)]]
[14:45:36] <Duesentrieb>	hm, really?
[14:46:24] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: ok thanks, didn't know that terminology. 
[14:46:37] <rainman-sr>	np :)
[14:46:48] <Duesentrieb>	learned graph theory mostly in german :) (though i can't remember what such nodes where called there...)
[14:47:02] <RoanKattouw>	AzaTht: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api/2008-February/000377.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api/2008-February/000376.html
[14:48:48] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: what would you call the process of iteratively removing all sinks from a graph, until none are left?
[14:49:05] <Duesentrieb>	rainman-sr: so far i'm calling one step in this "pruning"....
[14:50:48] <Duesentrieb>	"deep prune" sounds silly :P
[14:51:01] <rainman-sr>	hmm, no idea :)
[14:51:09] <Duesentrieb>	strip vs. prune is ambiguous, i guess
[14:51:10] <Basile>	mmh it doesnt work :x
[14:51:32] <Duesentrieb>	Basile: did you do a forced reload to purge your browser cache?
[14:51:40] <Duesentrieb>	Basile: have you looked at the javascript error console?
[14:51:41] <Basile>	ah no
[14:51:57] <Duesentrieb>	ctrl-r should do it in firefox (f5 doesn't!)
[14:52:12] <Basile>	I didn't both, gonna do it
[14:53:30] <Basile>	missing } in XML expression
[14:53:32] <Basile>	[Break on this error] document.write('<style type="text/css">/*<![CDATA[*/ h1.firstHeading { displ...
[14:53:40] <Basile>	that's what i get
[15:19:43] <Isnogud>	Hello all. We have written an extension to the mw. We faced the problem, that the MW handling of names is not the right thing for us. So we hacked the MW-style and are case insensitive. So, if we have a page aLink we redirect automatically to Alink. (ucfirst(strtolower()). But if we now use an arbitrary Link in a wiki page (Article/page Alink exists) like aLink then we want this link to show up as existing. But thats a real hard thing. i have figured h
[15:19:57] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Search by first letters or digits in [[Special:Categories]] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13095  +comment (10hegesippe46)
[15:20:41] <vi390>	Does somebody know in which File (php) there is the parsing function of wikiCode ?
[15:21:07] <Isnogud>	but it looks like there is no way of interaction in the replaceLinkHolders. Is there a way of manipulating without hacking the MW core?
[15:21:34] <cctoide>	Are there any extensions for placing locator dots on maps?
[15:21:44] <Isnogud>	We want to stay having a extension to the MW and not branching.
[15:22:03] <cctoide>	It feels rather prone to breakage to essentially copy the WP templates
[15:23:50] <vi390>	includes/CoreParserFunction.php seems not to be the correct file for the parser of wikiCode. Where is it ?
[15:24:09] <Duesentrieb>	vi390: Parser.php
[15:24:15] <Duesentrieb>	vi390: and it's a mess.
[15:24:21] <vi390>	:-)
[15:24:23] <vi390>	but thanks
[15:25:10] <Duesentrieb>	cctoide: there are several extensions for integrating google maps
[15:30:58] <Jack_Phoenix>	aaarrgh
[15:31:17] <Jack_Phoenix>	I wish I could stop people from editing monobook/main.css...
[15:31:27] <Jack_Phoenix>	they really should understand to use the on-wiki pages
[15:31:36] <Isnogud>	Jack_Phoenix: AAAAAAAA?
[15:31:44] <Jack_Phoenix>	<g>
[15:31:51] <Duesentrieb>	Jack_Phoenix: put a big fat comment on top?
[15:31:53] <skiidoo>	I want to include some forms and JavaScript in my articles. I've read about "Semantic Forms" extension but that seems to kinda heavy for what I need. Any suggestions of a simpler way so I could use forms in MediaWiki ?
[15:32:12] <Jack_Phoenix>	Duesentrieb: you're the MediaWiki dev w/ svn commit access, not me :-)
[15:33:57] <TimStarling>	Isnogud: sounds impossible to me
[15:34:21] <TimStarling>	Isnogud: is this a public wiki?
[15:35:22] <Isnogud>	it's a public extension
[15:37:23] <Duesentrieb>	!html | skiidoo
[15:37:23] --mwbot--	skiidoo: For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RawMsg> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[15:38:27] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: RawMsg is probably the most convenient, though HTMLets has its merrits. SecureHTML gives me the willies, but maybe that
[15:38:30] <Duesentrieb>	s just me
[15:38:31] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: Well. i just take a look on the replaceInternalLinks. If there would be a kind of interaction possible to say, this is a knownPlaceHolder everything would be fine.
[15:38:43] <Duesentrieb>	bah. the ' key is far to close th enter
[15:39:34] <skiidoo>	Hmmm, $wgRawHtml is fine because the edits would be restricted for a set of users. The page is not clear about a point: I guess it allows one to include HTML code, but PHP code would not be interpreted, right?
[15:40:03] <TimStarling>	Isnogud: if you fix that, won't there still be a hundred more points in the code where case-sensitivity is assumed?
[15:40:05] <Duesentrieb>	no php code, no
[15:40:32] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: if you want to process things your form posts, you need to write a proper extension. probably one that hooks into a special action, or a specialpage
[15:40:37] <Duesentrieb>	!extensions | skiidoo
[15:40:37] --mwbot--	skiidoo: MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions.
[15:41:43] <skiidoo>	Well, in fact there wouldn't be any SUBMIT button. Basically it's the same goal than what portforward does: an user enters his values in some fields, and the rest of the page takes these values back (using JavaScript) so the configuration examples can show the user's values.
[15:41:46] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: Well, i am not sure. We are able to redirect everything that points to aLink to the real thing, speak Alink. The only thing that is missing, is that the link does not show up as a known link. i don't think that this breaks smthg. 
[15:42:01] <skiidoo>	portforward.com I meant.
[15:42:45] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: then you don't need any php code
[15:42:55] <Isnogud>	i mean, we don't touch revisions or anything. Editing will only be done on the real page also, never on a clone, so i am not sure that this may break smthg.
[15:42:55] <TimStarling>	what happens when two pages are created that differ only in the case?
[15:43:12] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: btw, you can do all this with javascript only, without any extensions - but it's more tricky and convoluted
[15:43:32] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: You can't! Because every page name will be normalized. 
[15:43:47] <Sasoriza>	Hey all.  I'm trying to get some feedback here... I'm in heavy thought mode. I'm trying to turn a link inside a template into a template itself.  Can that be done?
[15:43:57] <skiidoo>	Duesentrieb: yeah, $wgRawHtml allows me to include JavaScript and <form> items without using any extension.
[15:44:11] <Duesentrieb>	that too.
[15:44:22] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: If you want to access a page called aLINK it will redirect you to Alink.
[15:44:24] <Duesentrieb>	if only truested users are allowed to edit on your site, then that's fine
[15:44:40] <Duesentrieb>	but as soon as you want as much as allow user comments, it's no longer an option
[15:44:43] <skiidoo>	Duesentrieb: I don't need PHP, I just wanted to be sure that editors would not be able to include some PHP code that would have been interpreted - be it because they copypaste without thinking about it or because they wanna execute code ;)
[15:45:14] <skiidoo>	Hmm
[15:46:28] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: That's what our idea is. It is caused by the fact that we use a Ontology and need a one to one identification, as we use the pages as entities of the Ontology.
[15:46:34] <Sasoriza>	actually I didn't state that clearly... never mind, gotta figure out what I'm saying
[15:46:52] <TimStarling>	Isnogud: maybe the best idea would be to patch Title::secureAndSplit()
[15:47:08] <TimStarling>	and remove your redirect hook
[15:47:22] <TimStarling>	because patching Title.php will do the redirecting for you, and the links
[15:47:37] <Isnogud>	Hm. So we have to provide the bowiki with a patch.
[15:49:27] <skiidoo>	Duesentrieb: I'm reading [[Manual:Preventing_access]] but I can't find something. Is it possible to make it so anonymous vissitors can not see the wiki source? I mean, if I disable anonymous edition they will still be able to click the 'view source' button. How can I prevent this?
[15:49:36] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: What about triing to hack the internal parser function, so that every mw developer could profit from this? I mean, dealing with names is an important issue, isn't it?
[15:50:03] <TimStarling>	Title is the module for dealing with names
[15:50:13] <TimStarling>	or titles, as we like to call them
[15:50:33] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: no, i don't think you can prevent this. what would be the point?
[15:50:49] <Isnogud>	you are right, sorry. 
[15:51:03] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: what do you want to hide? especially the javascript & form code will always be visible. after all, their browser needs to run it!
[15:51:07] <skiidoo>	We are in this tricky situation where some people are leeching everything we do. I'm trying to search a way to make it harder for them ;)
[15:51:31] <skiidoo>	So they can see the HTML it's fine, but I would like to make it harder for them to copy/paste our {{templates}}.
[15:51:42] <Duesentrieb>	o_O
[15:52:01] <Duesentrieb>	skiidoo: preventing editing is already pretty un-wiki-ish... preventing people to read stuff even more so.
[15:52:01] <skiidoo>	Yeah, sad situation, I know...
[15:52:18] <Duesentrieb>	if that's what you need, you should consider not using a wiki engine
[15:52:22] <skiidoo>	hehe
[15:52:24] <Isnogud>	what about providing the ability to give developers the opportunity to make transformations on the Title as they want to? 
[15:53:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search by first letters or digits in [[Special:Categories]] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13095  (10hegesippe46)
[15:53:24] <Isnogud>	so that users are not forced to use ucfirst for the Titles but define there own function for that?
[15:53:55] <Isnogud>	well, i know that the ucfirst may be deactivated by (wgCapitals) or so.
[15:54:36] <skiidoo>	I'm in this tricky situation where MediaWiki is perfect for what we want but we have this leeching issue. I'll triplethink about it anyway...
[15:54:54] <TimStarling>	Isnogud: maybe
[15:55:57] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: Well. i could try and ask for a new hook, right? it's mentioned somewhere in the Hooks howto in the Api, right?
[15:56:44] <Sasoriza>	skiidoo: That's what I've been told before, but I did it once and it worked just fine, in 1.9... not working for me now in 1.11 though
[15:56:55] <Isnogud>	 /in the/of the/
[15:57:07] <TimStarling>	file a feature request in bugzilla.wikimedia.org
[15:57:17] <Sasoriza>	I think I have to reinstall an extension
[15:57:53] <skiidoo>	Sasoriza: sorry? What is not working anymore?
[15:58:06] <Sasoriza>	blocking source access
[15:58:28] <skiidoo>	What did you used for that please?
[15:58:30] <Sasoriza>	or, they have to be registered to view the code
[15:58:48] <Sasoriza>	I can't remember, sorry... been meaning to track it down
[15:58:57] <skiidoo>	Yeah, that's how I see the things.. Account creation has to be manually done by an admin, and only regged users can edit.
[15:59:11] <Sasoriza>	yep same here
[15:59:28] <skiidoo>	Well, that's fine, the more I think about it and the more I'm like "let's them leech, we know who we are"
[15:59:44] <Sasoriza>	it may be un-wiki-ish on standard wikimedia projects, but not everyone uses it for that
[16:00:28] <Sasoriza>	I think it was an extension thought IIRC
[16:04:21] <quentin>	i've an issue with the interwiki table: the field type of iw_url is blob with a binary attribute
[16:05:07] <Duesentrieb>	quentin: all text fields used by mediawiki ire declared as binary. the reason is that mysql's support for utf8 is broken.
[16:05:39] <Duesentrieb>	it probably wouldn'rt make a difference for the url field
[16:05:53] <quentin>	okay, so I just type my url?
[16:06:16] <Duesentrieb>	"type" where
[16:06:41] <Duesentrieb>	if this is about phpmyadmin, i have to tell you, i have no idea.
[16:06:56] <Wiredtape>	bonjourno :)
[16:07:10] <Duesentrieb>	maybe it can cope with text as binary. maybe it expects something hex-encoded. no clue.
[16:16:06] <Wiredtape>	is there an image format considered standard that can handle layers? 
[16:16:47] <Duesentrieb>	"standard" for what?
[16:17:02] <Duesentrieb>	the standard for multi-page-multi-layer images is TIFF, i guess
[16:17:06] <Duesentrieb>	but that's no good for the web
[16:17:18] <Wiredtape>	ahh.. now i understand your question :)
[16:17:29] <Wiredtape>	no it's not for web.. it will be available for download though..
[16:17:52] <Wiredtape>	basically preparing a template others can use.. if i choose psd than most people will probably not be able to use it..
[16:18:02] <[blackb]>	i c'ant look image into my server web with latex
[16:18:15] <[blackb]>	impossible to solve must be e fedora bug a suppose
[16:18:32] <Duesentrieb>	Wiredtape: well, i think TIFF can handle layers. but I have no idea if potoshop, gimp, etc, will improt those as separate layers.
[16:18:45] <[blackb]>	the server web have an alias /var/www/wiki
[16:18:54] <Wiredtape>	a test I shall do :)
[16:19:11] <[blackb]>	the imges are stored into /var/www/wiki/images/math/etc etc
[16:19:20] <[blackb]>	from html source i see thet
[16:19:42] <[blackb]>	when i look into my page i can't find the images
[16:20:06] <Wiredtape>	whats ascii for middledot anyone know?
[16:20:43] <Atluxity>	middledot?
[16:21:22] <Wiredtape>	no, i mean: alt + <numpad sequence>
[16:21:22] <[blackb]>	i have put into Localsettings.php 3 variable wgMathPath, wgMathDirectory and wgTmpDirectory
[16:21:37] <[blackb]>	and the math and tmp direcroty into images have 777 pemise
[16:22:24] <Sasoriza>	Isn't there a #switch technique for unspecified templates? Can't think of it....
[16:23:04] <Wiredtape>	Sasoriza, yeah.. {{#switch | option1 = ... | default = ... }}
[16:25:19] <Sasoriza>	option1 can be blank, right?
[16:26:11] <Wiredtape>	then you don't need default.. just do | <empty> = ...
[16:29:53] <Sasoriza>	gahh! trying to follow all these mental pathways... feel like a brainy rat in a labyrinth
[16:30:10] <Wiredtape>	Zoit Narf Poit!
[16:33:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Single login (Unified login) on all wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57  (10N/A)
[16:35:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AntiSpoof should return more than one result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12232  (10N/A)
[16:36:01] <Hrishikesh>	hi, while parsing for a mediawiki markup file how do i find the end of a bullet list , i mean lines that start with *
[16:38:38] <CIA-43>	03tstarling * r31262 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 
[16:38:38] <CIA-43>	* Put both hidden categories and normal categories into the view page HTML, but with hidden categories being unconditionally hidden with CSS. A JS show/hide toggle can be added in user/site JS.
[16:38:39] <CIA-43>	* Add user preference to always show hidden categories
[16:38:39] <CIA-43>	* Add all hidden categories to [[Category:Hidden categories]], localised by hidden-category-category
[16:38:40] <CIA-43>	* Add wgVariantArticlePath and wgActionPaths to the JS variables script, needed to determine title from link href.
[16:38:42] <Sasoriza>	don't give me that narf
[16:40:00] <Hojjat>	Wow! Tim fixed lots of things in a go!
[16:40:14] <Hojjat>	Don't you think so, Sasoriza?!
[16:42:13] <AaronSchulz>	TimStarling: I love that comment on bug #57
[16:42:33] <DeVill>	Hi!
[16:42:42] <Isnogud>	TimStarling: Well. Forgot to say thanks.
[16:43:29] <DeVill>	Is there anyone around here who colud help me with, the following problem:
[16:43:56] <AaronSchulz>	http://8help.osu.edu/status/933.html
[16:44:03] <AaronSchulz>	"All customer are therefore advice to provide us with the following informaton"
[16:44:10] <DeVill>	I have a custom namespace, and I'd like to create custom edit and history
[16:44:17] <AaronSchulz>	why is that phishers can NEVER spell worth shit?
[16:44:20] <DeVill>	that works a little bit differently
[16:44:30] <DeVill>	where should I start this?
[16:44:43] <AaronSchulz>	I mean they can't spell check the message and double-check it, ever?
[16:44:47] <TimStarling>	Hojjat: including that awful invariant condition you put inside a loop in OutputPage::addCategoryLinks()
[16:45:02] <TimStarling>	$res = $dbr->expensiveQuery();
[16:45:09] <TimStarling>	foreach ( $res as $row { 
[16:45:27] <TimStarling>	if ( $invariant ) { do stuff with $row }
[16:45:28] <TimStarling>	}
[16:45:34] <Hojjat>	did I?
[16:45:38] <Hojjat>	:S
[16:45:41] *Hojjat 	hides
[16:46:01] <TimStarling>	it's really better to move the if outside the loop
[16:47:34] <Sasoriza>	I'm thinking zoit
[16:47:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Patrollers right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13118  (10huji.huji)
[16:48:15] <Hojjat>	TimStarling: While I'm adding Fa translations, I'll also add the newly created messages to messages.inc
[16:50:33] <TimStarling>	ok
[16:52:46] <CIA-43>	03huji * r31263 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[16:52:46] <CIA-43>	* Adding/updating Persian translations
[16:52:46] <CIA-43>	* Adding new messages to messages.inc
[16:52:46] <CIA-43>	* Rebuilding both Fa and En
[16:55:12] <Hojjat>	TimStarling: so with the new changes, if a user selects hidden cats to get hidden, he won't see them in the Category namespace eithr, right?
[16:56:48] <Wiredtape>	bah
[16:56:50] <Hojjat>	TimStarling: actually, there is a new bug there, I think
[16:57:21] <Atluxity>	Will the category be visible at the bottom of the article as usual?
[16:57:26] <Hojjat>	When the page is only in a hidden cat, and I choose not to see hidden cats, the cat box is still shown (7-8 pixels high, in the known grey color)
[16:58:28] <Wiredtape>	anyone know if in css specifity, the order of the elements matters? for instance, <div><script></script><table></table></div> and i have a rule, div table { ... } ? will it work?
[16:58:50] <MinuteElectron>	yes
[17:00:01] <Wiredtape>	The funny thing is, that i can see both rules being applied (in firebug) but for some reason one with less specifity is taking charge.. :-\
[17:02:02] <Sasoriza>	ok, wth am i doing wrong here... {{#if:{{{value1|}}}|[[value1]]|{{#switch:{{{value1|}}}|[[{{{value2}}}]]|}}}}
[17:02:42] <Wiredtape>	i'm going to guess the #switch pipes are the problem..
[17:02:59] <CIA-43>	03yaron * r31264 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/ (INSTALL includes/SD_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.3.7
[17:03:34] <Sasoriza>	caffeine's wearing off... I'm losing it
[17:04:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Category box shouldn't be shown when empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13152 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (huji.huji)
[17:05:29] <CIA-43>	03rotem * r31265 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix.
[17:06:20] <Sasoriza>	Today's project: Take over the DOD using mw hacks
[17:06:48] <Wiredtape>	Sasoriza, you're supposed to wait until i ask you what were going to do today!
[17:06:58] <Sasoriza>	zoit
[17:08:00] <CIA-43>	03rotem * r31266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[17:10:35] <CIA-43>	03rotem * r31267 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Adding the comment for message hidden-category-category back.
[17:11:26] <Sasoriza>	who invented mediawiki? I want to file a lawsuit
[17:11:45] <quentin>	Duesentrieb, yes, I'm talking about phpmyadmin (which is reliable, usually). (sorry for my late answer, fell asleep^^)
[17:11:59] <Sasoriza>	lol
[17:12:03] <brion>	morning all
[17:12:08] <Wiredtape>	morning
[17:12:13] <siebrand>	brion: good evening ;)
[17:12:18] <Sasoriza>	yo b
[17:12:27] <Wiredtape>	heh
[17:14:54] <Betacommand>	is there an edit rate coded into mediawiki for non-bots?
[17:15:15] <Wiredtape>	Betacommand, edit rate?
[17:15:22] <Wiredtape>	you mean number of edits?
[17:15:36] <Betacommand>	Wiredtape: a limit to how fast you can edit
[17:16:25] <Wiredtape>	ahh.. i remember talking about this once with someone, it was regarding making a rate to help fight vandalism or spam..
[17:16:40] <Wiredtape>	ie. number of edits by same ip in set timevalue
[17:17:22] <Wiredtape>	i remember there were some issues with this.. one being shared ip's (though you could argue that the chances someone is submitting an article at the exact same couple of seconds is minor)
[17:17:41] <Wiredtape>	other than that it was deemed a good idea.. or {{sofixit}} :)
[17:18:03] <Betacommand>	Wiredtape: is that in the code?
[17:18:04] <Wiredtape>	i didn't.. :=O
[17:19:01] <Wiredtape>	Betacommand, i don't know if anyone did it eventually..
[17:30:49] <Sasoriza>	You delete & restore an edit history twice. Does the first set compile w/the second?
[17:37:45] <hux_>	boa tarde...
[17:37:54] <hux_>	alguem poderia me dar uma ajuda ?
[17:40:03] <Farhadix>	Hi guys, I have installed mediawiki, but I can't go to site management of it! where is it?
[17:40:36] <mutante>	uhmm, what do you want to manage?
[17:40:53] <mutante>	there are Special pages for some admin tasks, seperated
[17:41:06] <Farhadix>	for example changing theme, or logo
[17:41:22] <mutante>	you need to edit the config file with a text editor
[17:41:32] <mutante>	LocalSettings.php
[17:42:44] <Farhadix>	is not there a graphically management tool?
[17:43:16] <Wiredtape>	i wish :)
[17:43:17] <mutante>	the default logo is in ./skins/common/images/wiki.png , afair
[17:43:41] <Wiredtape>	Farhadix, set $wgLogo to the logo path you want
[17:43:45] <mutante>	the default css is ./skins/monobook/main.css
[17:44:42] <Farhadix>	how i can add a tiny picture below of liks' menu?
[17:44:42] <mutante>	you can just overwrite and edit those, but the preferred method is to create your own, maybe a copy of monobook to start with, and change the path as Wiredtape said it
[17:44:47] <Wiredtape>	there are no "themes" for download, only the ones that come with the software.. some individuals do provide additional "skins" (themes) , you can find and download them on the internet by googling skins + mediawiki
[17:45:37] <Farhadix>	ok, thanks
[17:46:22] <mutante>	making a theme comes down to editing main.css for the most part
[17:46:31] <mutante>	wiki.png and headbg.png
[17:48:24] <mutante>	if you want to customize, also change headbg, it doesnt look nice when people replace the Logo  but they all keep that "open book background"
[17:48:57] <Farhadix>	Merci mutante
[17:49:06] <Farhadix>	:)
[17:52:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) COMPCHEMWIKI.COM is GONE WEIRD! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13153 04CRIT; high; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (1991jinsoo)
[17:53:06] <mutante>	wth
[17:53:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Security hole through RSS/Atom feeds of Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13107  (10brion)
[17:56:20] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) COMPCHEMWIKI.COM is GONE WEIRD! - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13153  +comment (10azatoth)
[17:57:06] <flyingparchment>	AzaTht: 'table is marked as crashed' actually means it needs to be repaired
[17:57:15] <flyingparchment>	(i suggest directing the user to a support forum)
[17:57:48] <AzaTht>	true, but which "support forum" do you suggest?
[17:58:04] <flyingparchment>	mediawiki-l, #mediawiki or the forum (mwusers.com)
[18:00:30] <AzaTht>	done
[18:00:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) COMPCHEMWIKI.COM is GONE WEIRD! - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13153  (10azatoth)
[18:14:19] <Higdur>	I'm getting some error messages while creating image thumbnails
[18:14:55] <Higdur>	Error creating thumbnail: .../wiki/bin/ulimit-tvf.sh: line 3: ulimit: cpu time: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted .../wiki/bin/ulimit-tvf.sh: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
[18:15:13] <Higdur>	anyone knows what could be causing it?
[18:15:21] <Higdur>	and how to fix it :)
[18:23:48] <Wiredtape>	Higdur, you're probably using a shared host and your script (thumbnail generator) is exceeding the allowed limit
[18:24:15] <Higdur>	yeah, it seems so
[18:24:55] <Higdur>	any way I can modify the thumb script to take less cpu or do I need to contact my hosting company?
[18:25:21] <Higdur>	it has generated thumbs fine before
[18:25:44] <Wiredtape>	contact host, or use less cpu somehow (maybe other extensions.. )
[18:28:27] <Higdur>	one more thing, is it possible to deactivate link-icons on a per-link basis?
[18:28:52] <Higdur>	ie, removing the icon for an external link on a single link
[18:29:11] <flyingparchment>	Higdur: enclose the link in <span class="plainlinks"></span>
[18:29:20] <Higdur>	thanks
[18:29:32] <Wiredtape>	hurr, flyingparchment :) - beat me to it.. 
[18:30:10] <Higdur>	;)
[18:34:17] <Nikerabbit>	who is carl Fürstenberg?
[18:36:15] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31268 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
[18:36:15] <CIA-43>	* importing EmailAddressImage from http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:EmailAddressImage&oldid=164471 with some markup and path changes and added ExtensionCredits
[18:36:15] <CIA-43>	* add support for EmailAddressImage in Translate
[18:37:42] <VasilievVV>	Nikerabbit: AzaTht
[18:38:03] <AzaTht>	hmm
[18:38:05] <AzaTht>	yes
[18:40:19] <Nikerabbit>	ps. wikimedia != mediawiki :)
[18:43:28] <Wiredtape>	anybody have a link to a url de-obfuscutator (urghh! hth do you spell that?) 
[18:44:07] <AzaTht>	Nikerabbit: why did you wonder?
[18:50:14] <Higdur>	Wiredtape: hm, now I get a blank error message from thumbnails
[18:50:31] <Higdur>	just Error creating thumbnail:
[18:51:53] <Higdur>	and according to the load logs I can access I'm nowhere near the cpu limit for my account :/
[18:54:10] <YoSei`|Riri>	3,99hi everybody. Can somebody ask me about that question : "is it possible to upload a file with extension .pdf or .xls for example and use it a link (like an image but not an image) ?"
[18:55:16] <Wiredtape>	Higdur, what's the error?
[18:55:29] <Wiredtape>	YoSei`|Riri, is it possible to upload a file with extension .pdf or .xls for example and use it a link (like an image but not an image) ?
[18:56:04] <Higdur>	Wiredtape: nothing, just Error creating thumbnail: and a linebreak
[18:56:33] <Higdur>	is there some wiki error log somewhere I can check?
[18:57:41] <Wiredtape>	higdur, hmm.. i dunno if enabling debug would help
[18:57:49] <Wiredtape>	perhaps someone else does? PING
[19:01:10] <Higdur>	Wiredtape: I guess it can't hurt to try...
[19:01:18] <Higdur>	do I find it in localsettings?
[19:01:40] <YoSei`|Riri>	3,99nobody about uploading a file (not an image) on the mediawiki's server and link it in an article ?
[19:01:58] <Wiredtape>	you need to add it.. 
[19:02:00] <Wiredtape>	!debug
[19:02:00] --mwbot--	For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_debug>.
[19:02:15] <Higdur>	ok, thanks
[19:02:19] <Wiredtape>	np
[19:02:55] <Wiredtape>	YoSei`|Riri, are you asking a question or trying to get us to ask you?
[19:02:56] <Higdur>	YoSei`|Riri: yes, that works fine, you may need to add the extension to $wgFileExtensions in LocalSettings.php
[19:04:43] <YoSei`|Riri>	3,99ok thanks i try it
[19:04:59] <flyingparchment>	YoSei`|Riri: please fix your irc client to not colour your text
[19:08:33] <Higdur>	Wiredtape: well, error output did not produce anything
[19:09:02] <Higdur>	logging seems to be only for mysql related errors if I interpreted it right
[19:09:10] <Higdur>	but I guess I'll try it
[19:09:38] <CIA-43>	03raymond * r31269 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Linker.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Add count of hidden categories to message for better localization.
[19:13:42] <Higdur>	that does not seem to generate any output either
[19:14:04] <Wiredtape>	hmm. sorry higdur, don't have a solution for ya :-\
[19:14:15] <Higdur>	I've filed a ticket with my hosting company, see if they can come up with something
[19:14:23] <Higdur>	Wiredtape: np, thanks for the help :)
[19:14:28] <Wiredtape>	np
[19:14:28] <nitrox>	hi
[19:14:39] <Wiredtape>	hi nitrox
[19:14:47] <nitrox>	is there a way to display sth. like "Page generated in.."?
[19:14:54] <nitrox>	hi wired
[19:15:00] <Wiredtape_Lunch>	page generated in?
[19:15:11] <nitrox>	small stats at bottom of page
[19:15:27] <CIA-43>	03rotem * r31270 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[19:15:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Modify some settings of Russian Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12856  +comment (10Ahonc.ua)
[19:15:47] <Wiredtape_Lunch>	i'm not sure what you mean? you mean when it was last modified?
[19:16:18] <nitrox>	nope, how long it took to build/render the page, e.g. how long php, sql-queries and so on took
[19:17:06] <Wiredtape_Lunch>	well.. you could supposedly get the parser time from the source of the page and display it with js
[19:17:20] <Wiredtape_Lunch>	as for php, sql-queries and so on.. i have no idea..
[19:17:35] <Wiredtape_Lunch>	and now i'm off to lunch
[19:17:41] <nitrox>	Wiredtape_Lunch: "Page generated in 0.xxx seconds with xx quries"
[19:18:04] <nitrox>	ok, thought there was already sth.
[19:20:39] <Nikerabbit>	AzaTht: 13153
[19:22:31] <ialex>	nitrox: for the time, there is already a comment at the bottom of the page
[19:22:46] <nitrox>	ah, i just need to display?
[19:23:08] <nitrox>	jepp, there is, thx..
[19:24:30] <Higdur>	Wiredtape_Lunch: the response I got from the hosting company was simply that ulimit is not allowed for use because of security reasons, however, that does not explain why the thumbnail creation tried to call the script in the first place, since it has worked fine before
[19:25:38] <Agony>	stupid questions part 74.55: If I want to submit enhancement suggestion for api.php, is correct component "API"?
[19:28:52] <jimbojw>	i'm confused about $wgMiserMode and $wgDisableQueryPages - what do I need to set to have expensive Query Pages still work, but served up cached rather than rendered every time
[19:29:08] <jimbojw>	just setting $wgMiserMode to true seems to disable Special:Ancientpages altogether
[19:29:37] <jimbojw>	just setting $wgDisableQueryPages to true does not disable Special:Ancientpages, but i'm not convinced it's using any caching
[19:30:00] <ialex>	jimbojw: to update a page with $wgMiserMod=true; you need to run maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php
[19:30:15] <jimbojw>	ialex: oh i see
[19:30:29] <jimbojw>	yeah, i just found the page for $wgDisableQueryPageUpdate, and it mentions that script
[19:30:57] <jimbojw>	the Manual page that is
[19:32:00] <jimbojw>	ialex: so I just need wgMiserMode=true, and then setup a cron job to update the special pages periodically
[19:32:08] <jimbojw>	it would seem
[19:32:19] <ialex>	jimbojw: i think it would work
[19:32:28] <jimbojw>	cool cool - thanks much!
[19:40:07] <AzaTht>	!b 13153
[19:40:07] --mwbot--	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13153
[19:40:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Modify some settings of Russian Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12856  (10jeluf)
[20:00:06] <Valerij>	Hi guys
[20:06:45] <munda>	Can someone tell me if/how display an image without having it link back to the image's wiki page?
[20:09:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) information about subpages to api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13154 15enhancement; low; MediaWiki: API; (agony)
[20:12:58] <AzaTht>	munda: the only way would be to enable use of external images and use the image as an extenral one
[20:14:25] <munda>	that's what I was afraid of.  Thanks :) 
[20:14:47] <flyingparchment>	i thought there was an <imagelink> extension or something
[20:15:20] <ialex>	!e ImageMap
[20:15:20] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[20:15:54] <flyingparchment>	not an imagemap, just a link
[20:16:37] <AzaTht>	aha, you meant that link
[20:17:14] <AzaTht>	flyingparchment: you who are literated; where does "pretty please, with a cherry on the top" came from?
[20:28:28] <yussef>	Hi, does anyone have any update on the release date of 1.12?
[20:35:08] <ialex>	yussef: one week or two, the process of release already started
[20:36:25] <yussef>	ok cheers
[20:36:43] <CIA-43>	03raymond * r31271 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Linker.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): Add formatnum to count of hidden categories, rephrase it a bit.
[20:46:01] <CIA-43>	03raymond * r31272 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates German
[20:48:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mark edits reverted by a rollback as patrolled - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13133  (10gtisza)
[20:58:17] <jlerner__>	is there any way to get the values passed into a particular template, using the api?
[20:58:40] <jlerner__>	i see the "prop=templates" option
[21:01:38] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner__: that would list the templates used on each page you have in your list.
[21:02:00] <jlerner>	Duesentrieb: right
[21:02:07] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner: but passing values into a template using the api... somehow doesn't make sense. at all. what are you trying to do?
[21:02:24] <jlerner>	i just wanted to get the values that are being passed in
[21:03:50] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner: oh, you mean, for a given page, and a specific template used on that page, retrieve that parameter values used when transcluding the template?
[21:04:21] <Duesentrieb>	since that is not stored in the database explicitly, the api can't give you that information
[21:04:32] <jlerner>	ok, thanks for the help
[21:04:34] <jlerner>	;-)
[21:04:42] <Duesentrieb>	jlerner: look into wikidata
[21:05:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable Special:Nuke on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13145  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:14:31] <CIA-43>	03raymond * r31273 10/trunk/extensions/Nuke/SpecialNuke.php: Change wfMsgForContent -> wfMsg as the message is part of the normal UI.
[21:19:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Make technical updates to srwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12949  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:23:03] <aBSDaemon>	Waits for new server to go online
[21:23:24] <aBSDaemon>	Until then, deal with the 50+ messges from vBulletin until I get log in details...
[21:25:29] <aBSDaemon>	!tabs
[21:25:29] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "tabs".
[21:26:37] <CIA-43>	03brion * r31274 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: 
[21:26:37] <CIA-43>	Correct wildly inaccurate description of a change.
[21:26:37] <CIA-43>	Bots were not given the right to edit protected pages; rather the ability to do so was created.
[21:27:37] *Sasoriza 	waves hi to Skizzerz
[21:27:51] *Skizzerz 	waves hi to Sasoriza 
[21:28:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unable to unprotect pages protected with earlier versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13132  (10brion)
[21:32:11] <CIA-43>	03brion * r31276 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): Revert r31243, r31244 -- regression: spews bogus protection entries into page history when no change is made.
[21:32:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Unable to unprotect pages protected with earlier versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13132  +comment (10brion)
[21:42:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change of Armenian NS_POJECT namespaces, Wikisource name - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12112  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:44:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Transwiki import on Beta.Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13123  +comment (10jeluf)
[21:50:19] <WholeWheatRadio>	Newbie here.  I am trying to post a technical mediawiki question on mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org but it is not showing up.  First attempt was 10 hours ago.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[21:50:55] <flyingparchment>	WholeWheatRadio: have you subscribed?
[21:51:13] <WholeWheatRadio>	Yes.
[21:52:13] <WholeWheatRadio>	I have posted via gmane and when that didn't take, I posted by sending an email to mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org ... I am seeing other people's messages actively posting - just not mine.  
[21:52:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create new prefix COM: for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600  (10brion)
[21:52:37] <flyingparchment>	you posted from the same addresss you subscribed with?  what address?
[21:52:48] <WholeWheatRadio>	Yes same address I subscribed with.
[21:53:06] <flyingparchment>	which is what?
[21:53:59] <WholeWheatRadio>	crap@wholewheatradio.org    ... the crap is because newgroups are guaranteed to bring spam, so after I am done posting, I remove that address to stop the spam.
[21:55:49] <WholeWheatRadio>	Although, if this irc has some strong mediawiki developers, I can try to ask the question here.  It concerns templates being dropped when I call Parse.  Code worked in 1.6 but when I upgraded to 1.11.1 I started dropping categories
[21:56:13] <WholeWheatRadio>	I've been messing with it for 2 days now, every way to Sunday, and am finally so frustrated I'm calling for help.
[21:56:45] <WholeWheatRadio>	Hang on while I post a wiki page with the text of the problem...and will link here....
[21:57:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) @ (at-sign) needs to be totally invalid for usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12581  (10Platonides)
[21:57:32] <flyingparchment>	WholeWheatRadio: your post never reached the mail server
[21:58:43] <WholeWheatRadio>	flyingparchment - thank you for checking.  That is odd since it was posted both via Gmane's web interface as well as my emailer.  That's another problem though ... let me see if I can get the original one answered
[21:58:45] <WholeWheatRadio>	http://www.wholewheatradio.org/wiki/index.php/User:Jimkloss/sandbox4
[21:59:44] <WholeWheatRadio>	That link is a general description of the problem I'm having.  Categories are being "ignored" whenever I call Parser.
[22:02:49] <WholeWheatRadio>	Solutions I'm looking for might include: 1) a function that will force categories to be re-calculated for a page  2) getting RecursiveParse to return what it's supposed to instead of LINK[0] ...
[22:03:08] <Duesentrieb>	WholeWheatRadio: well, the best solution to this type of problem is: don't mess with parser state, write a parser function extension isntead of a tag hook.
[22:03:21] <Duesentrieb>	parser functions integrate much better with wikitext processing
[22:03:31] <Duesentrieb>	tag hooks are really designed to bypass all processing
[22:04:26] <Duesentrieb>	btw, in case you manage to get it to work with 1.11, keep in mind there's another big change comming wrt template processing in 1.12. not sure it would effect you, but it's something to look out for
[22:05:04] <WholeWheatRadio>	Okay.  I don't believe parser function extensions were available when I first started writing hooks.  I certainly can look into it, but I believe that's going to be a major design change for my (large) project.  So a workaround would be better at this point.  Thanks for confirming though that I need to start looking at them
[22:05:17] <tommyd>	Hi all! Does mediawiki support wildcards and/or regexes in the watchlist?
[22:05:18] <Duesentrieb>	WholeWheatRadio: also, there's recursiveTagParse now. and a few other nasty things. try to catch TimStarling in a good mood for the full story.
[22:05:26] <tommyd>	like f.e. MoinMoin does?
[22:05:26] <WholeWheatRadio>	Yeah, I was getting wind that 1.12 had some big changes in that area.
[22:05:47] <Duesentrieb>	tommyd: no.
[22:06:04] <tommyd>	hrm... bad luck then
[22:06:28] <Duesentrieb>	tommyd: write a script that watches the rc feed for you :P
[22:06:30] <WholeWheatRadio>	Yes, as I said at the bottom of that page, I have tried recursiveTagParse and only get < !--LINK[0]-- > returned in it.
[22:06:59] <Duesentrieb>	WholeWheatRadio: you mea need to apply some unstrip or other. no idea, i never used it.
[22:07:06] <Duesentrieb>	parser state is really confusing
[22:07:16] <Duesentrieb>	especially in the absense ofa real parser
[22:07:53] <CIA-43>	03brion * r31277 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialUserlogin.php): 
[22:07:53] <CIA-43>	* (bug 12988) $wgMinimalPasswordLength no longer breaks create user by email
[22:07:53] <CIA-43>	The user password was being set to '-' briefly during setup, before being overwritten.
[22:07:53] <CIA-43>	This broke with $wgMinimalPasswordLength > 1, throwing a fatal exception.
[22:07:53] <CIA-43>	Using the special value of null instead allows the initial non-valid password entry to be set without hitting the minimum length.
[22:09:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) $wgMinimalPasswordLength setting does not allow account creation by e-mail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12988  +comment (10brion)
[22:09:43] <Wiredtape>	bah
[22:12:08] <CIA-43>	03catrope * r31278 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): (bug 13154) Adding subpage info to meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces. Also adding RELEASE-NOTES entry for r31260
[22:12:42] <WholeWheatRadio>	Okay - well, it looks like perhaps the irc was a bust for now.  I'll stay tuned in but do some other projects etc.  Once again, in case anyone is interested, I'm trying to get a solution for a problem with categories disappearing as described here:  http://www.wholewheatradio.org/wiki/index.php/User:Jimkloss/sandbox4
[22:12:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) information about subpages to api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13154  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[22:16:32] <Wiredtape>	brion, did you see comment about wfsajaxsearch() hook in wikitext-l? (under 1.12 branched)
[22:19:51] <brion>	Wiredtape: i haven't seen anything on wikitext-l
[22:19:58] <Wiredtape>	*wikitech that is :)
[22:20:00] <brion>	in fact i consider that list to be a waste of human time
[22:20:05] <brion>	assuming it exists
[22:20:11] <Wiredtape>	heh
[22:20:27] <brion>	but no, no idea what you're talking about atm
[22:23:14] <Wiredtape>	ok.. if you get a chanch.. 
[22:23:19] <Wiredtape>	*chance
[22:24:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow Blockedtext start with == heading == - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13000  (10brion)
[22:26:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The <pre> tag around GeSHi-highlighted code does not have a class "source" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11274  summary; +comment (10brion)
[22:27:53] <WholeWheatRadio>	Duesentrieb- Spending time looking at parser functions (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions) it's not a great solution for what I want to do.  I  want to call wikimedia's function to convert wiki markup - and not cause categories on the page being rendered "forgotten".  So I keep thinking there's a tweak I can make either before or after I call Parser to save/restore...
[22:27:54] <WholeWheatRadio>	...categories.  I just can't quite make sense of the source enough to find it.
[22:29:53] <Duesentrieb>	the point of parser functions is that you don't have to call the parser any more.
[22:30:00] <Duesentrieb>	it's done for you.
[22:30:16] <Duesentrieb>	which may or may not make sense, depending on what you try to do
[22:30:23] <Duesentrieb>	but it would sure make things easier :)
[22:34:28] <WholeWheatRadio>	Yes, I see that and may write a test case ... it's the "magic words" sort of scenario that doesn't work well for the bulk processing of entire pages that I'm doing.  Thanks for the idea though - I will play around with it if I can find nothing else.
[22:36:01] <WholeWheatRadio>	recursiveTagParse looks to be perfect ... simple ... but it's not parsing [[a_page_that_exists]] and only giving --LINK[0]-- which I think may indicate the page is in error ... but can't trace it down.  Will keep trying.
[23:00:13] <WholeWheatRadio>	Not that anyone cares but um ... I think I may have found a solution.  I was hooking ParserAfterTidy when action=submit or action=edit.  That would kill the category.  But if I hook OutputPageBeforeHTML --- it seems to be working.  Back into test case mode - but ecstatic - just being around y'all musta helped.  
[23:11:41] <brion>	awww, we care WholeWheatRadio 
[23:12:42] <WholeWheatRadio>	:-)  Was just tallking about it on-air and you answered and now the world knows that brion and mediawiki care!!!!!! 
[23:12:51] <brion>	:)
[23:16:45] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31280 10/trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: Some more help for exporting languages
[23:18:43] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31281 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Update the empty section 'updated languages' a bit
[23:19:12] <Sasoriza>	on-air?
[23:19:26] <Wiredtape>	obviously radio :)
[23:19:36] <Sasoriza>	do we have a radio station now?? :)
[23:19:36] <Wiredtape>	made of wholewheat
[23:19:46] <Sasoriza>	sweet
[23:20:09] <Wiredtape>	it took some development, but eventually we mastered the grain.. :)
[23:20:34] <Sasoriza>	That's what we need... an online radio show for mw... imagine the call-ins
[23:21:39] <Sasoriza>	"Yeah, I've got the two brackets followed by the dollar sign, and, uh, no, wait, that's an ampersand... or is that a hash?... anyway..."
[23:21:40] <Wiredtape>	"Hi, i'd like to know how to create a link..?", "You add two aquare brackets on each side of the phrase you want to link..", "which ones are the squares?" ...
[23:21:46] <WholeWheatRadio>	Um, yeah, for 16 months we've been pure (modified) Whole Wheat Wiki.  :-)  www.wholewheatradio.org ... a slew of kinda cool integrations between our db and wiki db.  All "grown up" music, also appropriate for y'all.  Many many thanks for providing software that lets us do what we do for independent music.
[23:23:10] <WholeWheatRadio>	A few days ago someone made the comment in the chat (wiki-ized chat that recognizes wiki markup dynamically!) "I never though I'd hear someone say "2 curly braces" on the radio.  I try to teach wiki markup on-air and the results are often hillarious.
[23:23:42] <Wiredtape>	is it a radio, or a chuat?
[23:23:47] <Wiredtape>	*chat
[23:23:59] <WholeWheatRadio>	Both Wiredtape:  The wiki chat where some of us are now at:  http://www.wholewheatradio.org/wiki/index.php/Chat:The_Breakfast_Table
[23:24:14] <WholeWheatRadio>	And the radio is http://www.wholewheatradio.org:8000/listen.pls
[23:24:52] <Wiredtape>	how do you broadcast the stream? or is it podcast based?
[23:25:01] <WholeWheatRadio>	Shoutcast
[23:25:24] <WholeWheatRadio>	And podcasts (we call 'em audio magazines) are made automatically when we hit the record button.  
[23:25:59] <Wiredtape>	am actually listening to it now :)
[23:26:22] <Wiredtape>	from alaska!
[23:26:36] <WholeWheatRadio>	But I feel like I'm self-promoting which I'm sure isn't the point of this IRC.  Oh.... well, I'll say hello Wiredtape
[23:26:51] <Wiredtape>	hehe add .com :)
[23:27:50] <Wiredtape>	lol
[23:28:39] <Wiredtape>	darnit, i got cut off due to an update :-\
[23:28:49] <Wiredtape>	do you have a transcript anywhere?
[23:29:17] <WholeWheatRadio>	Bummer - oh well, let me know anytime you're on cuz I'd love to give a sincere thanks to the mediawiki developers  --- and sorry, no transcripts - it's all improvised!
[23:29:49] <jlerner>	j #semantic-mediawiki
[23:29:50] <Wiredtape>	np, thanks :)
[23:29:52] <jlerner>	sorry
[23:34:29] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31282 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (27 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-02-26 00:25 CET)
[23:35:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Activate transwiki import on scn.wikipedia and scn. wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13155 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (nnico)
[23:37:44] <CIA-43>	03siebrand * r31283 10/trunk/extensions/ (27 files in 26 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-02-26 00:25 CET)
[23:37:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:MergeAccount does not detect wikimania2008wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13009  (10brion)
[23:51:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create new prefix COM: for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12600  (10N/A)